well there are photos of his face in the mansion when you go through the halls of the banging doors and the floating candle. they are just little pictures of his face.
this is amazing my little sis loves this ride and i show this to her she was like OMG this was so big for her and yeah check out my channel and subscribe
That's pretty interesting, seeing the old footage of the attraction's exterior in '69, and nothing about it has been changed. I did read that they're supposedly bringing the Hatbox ghost back on the ride in the attic with the Black Widow Bride, but, well, "supposedly"...;)
THIS IS AMAZING. For those who dont understand. In simplicity, the Hatbox Ghost was an original/proposed audio animatronic figure (like the bride or any figure in the graveyard) that was ORIGINALLY in the attic scene of the ride, where the bride stands now. But the realism of the effect didnt work for shit, so it was taken out almost immediately. The point of this video was to prove it WAS in fact in the mansion, and physically seen by the public for a very short time, before it was taken out.
I've taken it into my own hands now...Mwahahahahahaha! At least I did....until the Hatbox Ghost stole it from me....what in your house relates to the Haunted Mansion? Maybe a certain VIDEO GAME perhaps? Where could it be? Hmmmmmm.
@bellaella16 well, from what i'm getting is, before the Haunted Mansion first opened the Hatbox Ghost wasn't in the ride. As the engineer was saying in the video, the whereabouts of the Hatbox Ghost was unknown. Once the internet was starting up in the '90s, there were multiple websites where people claimed that once the ride opened in 1969, they DID see it. so finally, someone uploaded a picture of the Hatbox Ghost and this guy had footage of it. that's what makes it spooky. makes sense?
I hope he is still there, he might just be hidden(: You always looks at the things that catch your eye, things popping up, lights, things moving, he could be right there and you don't even see him(:
I hate making these kind of comments but...3 people lost their heads at the sight of the Hatbox Ghost and accidentally hit the dislike button with their fallen head.
I see, I had a simialar story too. My Cousin could of sworn to see it too back in the 80's. I showed her Hattie and she remembered it pretty well but not the effect it did. Maybe Disney had something to do with him countless times to attempt his return Perhaps?
I;ve been on this ride for years, and I have never heard of the Hatbox Ghost until last october. Hopefully when they reinstall him, I'll get to see him.
While i was in my haunted mansion phase i showed her the pic of this ghost (doombuggies) and she said she remembered it. I asked when since she lived in mexico and never went to disneyland in the 60's and she told me a year b4 you were born making it 1992. I thought Impossible! but she even remembered the disappearing head effect. Maybe they tried to bring him back???
@Bloodnswash Same here. Forgot how many friends of mine I sent this to, and they were blown away by this. Talk about amazing...now if Disneyland could only bring him back...
Well even if it didn't work in the mansion back then... then why cant that try to make it now? I'm sure they have crazy more effects they can work with now... I mean come on PUT IN THE HAT BOX GHOST DISNEY!
@Mansionology So, the hanging man is the ghost host since the man with the neuce/hatchet in the portrait is "the ghost host", correct? Is there any proof that Gracey is the man in the aging portrait? I always assumed that gracey was the man in the aging portrait and that the ghost host and the hanging man weren't affiliated; but now I realize they were since the host says "there's always my way.."
@spongebobslushpants1 Yes, the hanging skeleton is the Ghost Host's remains and the "hatchet man" painting is his portrait. The "aging man" portrait in the foyer depicts the master of the house, according to Jason Surrell. It still hasn't been 100% confirmed whether or not Master Gracey is the "master" in the foyer portrait.
A very chilling glimpse of the ghost! I find the Haunted Mansion to be an extremely mysterious and compelling experience, even if it were just for the history alone. The ride is a masterpiece!
@LEGOMaster56 He was only in the ride for maybe a couple of days...A week tops. It is now a mystery where he is now. Disney doesn't even know his whereabouts. It's all a mystery of what became of him :S
@LEGOMaster56 Just an old picture, or maybe even a replica (more likely a replica). As Tony Baxter said in this video, all of his figure molds are gone, the characters are gone, everything that has to do with this character is gone. It disappeared. It's most likely he was chopped down for his parts. Although he wasn't an advanced figure that could build lets say a charcter in America Sings, but they most likely used some of his parts to help build other characters. Sad, huh?
I'm sure that part of the love of the hat box ghost came from the fact that Walt's uncle was a hatter and he often would use hat boxes in his work as a nod to his uncle (ie: the hat box that Lady is given to Darling in Lady and the Tramp).
I think I must have seen a promotional for this guy when I was quite young because it is familiar and maybe this is reason I did not like the Mansion when I was young!
Thank you so much for that video, me and my friend have made so many suggestions upon this, we have learned that for the upcoming Haunted mansion movie, there's a chance for good old Hatbox to return. Let's cross our fingers and hope so
You're forgetting the promotional thing Disney did where they added a real person to the the ride. The winner got a tombstone that is placed near the gravedigger in the graveyard scene.
@msladysaurus rumour has it he was reused as one of the eagles in the attraction america sings but i find that unlikely as the hatbox ghost was too simple to be that kind of animatronic: he was really just made up of wire and the two heads (1 on the body, 1 in the hatbox), nothing else. There's even rumours that a hatbox ghost was made for the disneyworld mansion but never installed. If that version of the hatbox ghost even existed, funnily no one knows where that 1 is either
This adds so much mystery to the mythology of the Haunted Mansion and Disneyland itself. I love it, it really shows the stories and tales than can arise from this special land.
THAT IS FANTASTIC! :). My mom and aunt actually went to Disneyland back in '69 the weekend Haunted Mansion opened. She remembers it being quite an event, the cue almost starting where Pirates is located. Recently we were talking about the Haunted Mansion, and I had to ask her did she see this figure. Thanks to the internet, found a pic...and she was like "whoa!!...I remember that!...he was creepy..but we didn't get what he was supposed to do..." this very cool, thanks for posting.
I have never looked for the hatbox ghost but now I will have to. @MANEATINGWREATH I personally think that it would be a great mystery to future generations but I think it would also be something for them to look out for when they ride the ride. Thats my personal opinion to weither or not to for him to remain a mystery or not.
@tornadoe13 The original Haunted Manson is in California. The very first park was in California so California had all of the firsts before the rest of the Disneyland parks.
@tornadoe13 I believe you are asking which park got the first mansion? If so, Disneyland. It opened in 1969. Walt Disney World's mansion opened with the park in 1971, and all the others in the 80s and 90s :)
@tornadoe13 I just said: Disneyland. Disneyland in Anaheim was the first park to ever been opened (1955). He is supposed to return, but funding was cut short. I honestly think that reason was a lie (it was released by Disney). I'm pretty sure he will be added when the new Haunted Mansion movie comes out next year (the Hatbox Ghost is the main character in this new film)
All I can say is WOW. This really is an amazing video and discovery. Bravo to the Disney History Institute and please keep them coming.
So my opinion, and answer to your question? As I was watching the video on Miceage and before seeing the question, I was thinking "this really should come back to the HM using today's technology."
Great video and I like how you combined different pieces of old footage and told the story in detail. Thanks for putting this together. Ignore the haters.
I would love for the Hatbox ghost to be added into today's mansion, I pretty sure we've got the technology to do the effect justice. The only problem arrises when you consider that the story of hte attic has changed considerably.... so I don't know how they would add this character into there..... amazing video though
@Jmarsh1955: Well, since Constance is titled the Black Widow Bride (seeing as she kills her various grooms-to-be by beheading them), The Hatbox Ghost would work, since he literally loses his head over his bride.
@Jmarsh1955: This, of course, differs from the stories told about the Beating Heart Bride (christened Emily by fans, but called Elizabeth in the 2003 film) that existed before hatchet-brandishing Constance, for in one story, Emily's groom is sea pirate Captain Blood (Nuptial Doom, ironically recorded recently by Connie's voice actress), in another, The Hatbox Ghost is her proposed groom, but in most other tellings--no matter how she is killed--she is wed to Ghost Host, Master Gracey.
@Mansionology: They wouldn't have allowed the above if he weren't. Face it, your argument holds no weght, whilst mine is backed by various stories told over the years by various people who worked on the Mansion, by Connie's voice actress herself (she recorded Nuptial Doom), the 2003 film, & officially released merch like the lapel pins.
@TherealRNO You have no idea what you're talking about, dude. You think fan fiction (which includes cast member stories) and licensed (but NON-CANON) material overrules Imagineering?
The bride had NO official name. NO backstory. Until 2006. Her name is Constance.
The Ghost Host was never meant to be Master Gracey. That was an incorrect fan assumption that gained popularity. The guy with the noose around his neck and holding a hatchet is the Ghost Host as envisioned by Marc Davis.
@Mansionology: "The Ghost Host was never meant to be Master Gracey" you say, yet besides the 2003 film & Nuptial Doom, other officialized recordings licensed by Disney--such as The Song & Story of The Haunted Mansion--would also disagree with this, given the opening speil, "Good evening. Welcome to The Haunted Mansion. I am your host. Your Ghost Host. Kindly step this way. You will not be harmed, but you will not be released until you take a tour of my home."
@TherealRNO "Licensed by Disney" does not make something canon. There was also a Haunted Mansion book released by the Disney company that names the Leota character "Madame Blackheart" and the bride "Sally Little."
The Ghost Host saying "my home" in the Story and Song album doesn't mean anything, except for that it's his home.
@Mansionology: Excuse me, but the ORIGINAL Imagineers CAME UP with the "fanon" stories. Nuptial Doom is ITSELF based on the stories told to Kat (the VOICE of Constance) by her father as an original Imagineer during the Mansion's early years. So really, the "fanon" stories were, at one time--prior to the 2006 & 2007 rehaunt--canon to the Mansion lore, as was the notion that Master Gracey & The Ghost Host were synonymous.
@TherealRNO Wrong. None of that Master Gracey/Gracey Manor backstory came from the original Imagineers. There was a tombstone with the name Master Gracey. That's it.
"Nuptial Doom" was written by John Starling and Kat Cressida. It's based on Ken Anderson's Captain Gore backstory that was ultimately unused.
See Orlando...my little brother. I do remember seeing the Hat Box Ghost when I was very little I even told him where I saw it and it was in the same place as I described that it on this video. I was right..I was very small but I have a very good memory. Well I do hope to see again soon. Thank you so much for this video. Great Investigative Work. Great Video...
Whoa, amazing. So he WAS there after the Mansion opened to the public. Upon seeing this footage, I must admit that he looked pretty creepy in the attic scene. After the new movie comes out (next year), I really hope they put him back in the ride. Think about this, technology has really come a long way since the 60s. I'm sure they can do something really special with him. Like have his head disapear every time Constance raises her axe.
that doombuggies photo of the hatbox, i thought the head was suppose to disappear and appear in the hatbox, it did not disappear from the body was in both places the body and the hatbox.
@rickamerson The illusion of the head disappearing from his shoulders and reappearing in the box was done by lighting. There were two heads, both staying put, however, the lighting was suppose to go out on one spot, and come up in another. The pic you see is both being illuminated. The main reason the Hatbox Ghost went away, is, well... the trick didn't work very well.
The coolest thing would be to bring him back, but only on an irregular basis - once a week or so. It would be a luck of the draw thing that would add even more to his allure.
Finally!!! This is MAJOR news for the Disney fan community. It's like (and I'm not stretching this) someone captured footage of Jesus. I freakin kid you not!!!
Oh, and how can Tony Baxter just stand there with that "thing" moving and hissing at him?? Creepy!
@ReesiePuffs64: "Oh, and how can Tony Baxter just stand there with that "thing" moving and hissing at him?? Creepy!"
Emily--as she christened by fans--is NOT a thing. In the story, she is a heartbreak spirit. In fact, even with Constance having replaced her, Emily's heartbeat can still be heard, most likely to set up the return of ol' Hatty.
Oh, I know the mythology of the mansion. That's facinating stuff. And I prefer Emily's story to Constance. It just makes more sense. It fits with the whole socializing not scaring thing. But I just mean the animatronic itself! I for one would be freaked out of my mind standing in front of it not knowing when the pressure valve would be released causing it to jerk about. Baxter has some balls.
The bride was never named Emily. That was made up by cast members. For some reason, many fans still insist that the bride's "real" name was Emily and that she had a tragic backstory, etc. There was no official name or backstory for the bride character until 2006 (Constance).
I'm aware of that. Just like how many fans insist that the painting of the young man is Master Gracy when it is really the noose man. Or that Yale Gracy's nickname was never supposed to be a character. Or how the Yeti is called Harold. Or the Fantasmic dragons. The Florida one is Joanne and the Cali one is Murphy.
now THAT is amazing footage. he really did have his few days of being a tenant
BunnyBaliztic 4 hours ago
Wow. This was amazing.
ashproductions 3 weeks ago
well there are photos of his face in the mansion when you go through the halls of the banging doors and the floating candle. they are just little pictures of his face.
swallla97 1 month ago
fake
DarkVulcan666 1 month ago
@DarkVulcan666 Fake? o_O Yeahno.
thedragoonknight 1 month ago
the hatbox ghost only rented for a few days
haypoopnugget 1 month ago
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more like the headbox ghost!
haypoopnugget 1 month ago
more like the headbox ghost!
haypoopnugget 1 month ago
this is amazing my little sis loves this ride and i show this to her she was like OMG this was so big for her and yeah check out my channel and subscribe
rollersk8rkid 1 month ago
That's pretty interesting, seeing the old footage of the attraction's exterior in '69, and nothing about it has been changed. I did read that they're supposedly bringing the Hatbox ghost back on the ride in the attic with the Black Widow Bride, but, well, "supposedly"...;)
hales9691 1 month ago
THIS IS AMAZING. For those who dont understand. In simplicity, the Hatbox Ghost was an original/proposed audio animatronic figure (like the bride or any figure in the graveyard) that was ORIGINALLY in the attic scene of the ride, where the bride stands now. But the realism of the effect didnt work for shit, so it was taken out almost immediately. The point of this video was to prove it WAS in fact in the mansion, and physically seen by the public for a very short time, before it was taken out.
superstitiousminer2 1 month ago
They should've put it in Epic Mickey!
PyroGothNerd 1 month ago 3
@Bloodnswash So did I, I even scrolled down the page incase there was a hidden screamer...
er10b 1 month ago
if Disneyland or WDW don't want to bring the Hatbox Ghost back, I would put him to good use as a Halloween prop.
er10b 1 month ago
Epic!!
I was at Dizneeland in '68 (I was 7), and was pissed that the mansion wasn't open (I clearly recall that sign).
My first LP (my choice) was the 'Story And Song..' record.
I guess I'm your classic "monster kid", but I think most would consider this a classic dark ride, and the legend of ol' Hattie just adds to it.
Rutoenfit 1 month ago
cool
monkeyhead45 1 month ago
Rumor has it, he will be returning to the Mansion when the new Haunted Mansion film comes out...
ThatDisneyKid 2 months ago
any idea of the music playing?that scary carnaval music?
Alxmir23 2 months ago
@Alxmir23 that's the ballroom music.
Zarthga 1 month ago
@Alxmir23 Ballroom interlude.
swarlock 1 month ago
Your an idoic fool mr puppy man
TheThirstysouls 2 months ago
yeah.....i dont get this
mrpuppyman 2 months ago
Omg that old footage!!! I want to see more!!! More!!! More!!!
DeathlyPumpkin 2 months ago
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I've taken it into my own hands now...Mwahahahahahaha! At least I did....until the Hatbox Ghost stole it from me....what in your house relates to the Haunted Mansion? Maybe a certain VIDEO GAME perhaps? Where could it be? Hmmmmmm.
EvilGooball 2 months ago
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EvilGooball 2 months ago
I don't understand.
funnyretard667 2 months ago
wait so the hatbox ghost is a person? because thats what i saw was a person D:
XxrawrbabiixX 3 months ago
@XxrawrbabiixX It's an animatronic.
swarlock 1 month ago
thats cool!
hairdoggy 3 months ago
Cannot wait to see him come back to the mansion!
TheMuffinBurgler 3 months ago
Wow.. he really didnt work. If you look closely the head appears in the box, but it's still on his shoulders
babysinclairfan 4 months ago
I know when he's coming back...was told by a cast member yesterday.
TheDJT418 4 months ago
@TheDJT418 jw when is he coming back
firegoddess1 3 months ago
@firegoddess1 I will post a video about it soon...
TheDJT418 3 months ago
@TheDJT418 me too! Feb 21st 2012
natorpen 3 months ago
@natorpen Who told you?
TheDJT418 3 months ago
i really don't understand this... can someone please give me a simplified explanation?
bellaella16 4 months ago
@bellaella16 well, from what i'm getting is, before the Haunted Mansion first opened the Hatbox Ghost wasn't in the ride. As the engineer was saying in the video, the whereabouts of the Hatbox Ghost was unknown. Once the internet was starting up in the '90s, there were multiple websites where people claimed that once the ride opened in 1969, they DID see it. so finally, someone uploaded a picture of the Hatbox Ghost and this guy had footage of it. that's what makes it spooky. makes sense?
blinkoffyourpants 3 months ago
@blinkoffyourpants yes thank you SO much :)
bellaella16 3 months ago
nice work!
rickybobbytalladega 4 months ago
Ha facebook page
abdcfan211 4 months ago
What record book is that? Does anyone know where I can get one?
iluvmichaeline 4 months ago
I think that I say him in leotas room if you look carefully
SlasherV8 4 months ago
@SlasherV8 His face is used in Leota's room against one of the walls. It;s not the actual animatronic, but a projection.
softballfreako 4 months ago
I hope he is still there, he might just be hidden(: You always looks at the things that catch your eye, things popping up, lights, things moving, he could be right there and you don't even see him(:
Kellypopify 4 months ago
soooo in other words the hatbox ghost is aive o.o
TheMeanieWeenie 4 months ago
@TheMeanieWeenie lol
nicholaskingmequeen 4 months ago
If disney gave me one week at their effects dept and storage facilities I'm sure I could find him
tornadoe13 4 months ago
@tornadoe13 and if I did I'd probably search out for all the original equipment that ran the HM and connect him to it all.
er10b 1 month ago
I hate making these kind of comments but...3 people lost their heads at the sight of the Hatbox Ghost and accidentally hit the dislike button with their fallen head.
MANEATINGWREATH 5 months ago
Okay, call me nuts. I wept.
mmsmith1777 5 months ago
This is amazing and I literally got the chills. Ah, to go back in time I would love to see this eye to eye.
Itstephaniie 5 months ago
cool...
superstarjonesbros 5 months ago
This is awesome! Keep posting more videos they're all great.
AMan7323 5 months ago
wow.......lame
lilmama2731 5 months ago
I bet there just trying to scare the geuests! :)
mermaidfriends4eva 5 months ago
@Emotexmex
I see, I had a simialar story too. My Cousin could of sworn to see it too back in the 80's. I showed her Hattie and she remembered it pretty well but not the effect it did. Maybe Disney had something to do with him countless times to attempt his return Perhaps?
althegamefreak 5 months ago
now i want to go to disneyland and go on the haunted mansion to see where the hatbox ghost could of been
sesshyforever21 5 months ago
Is this really Paul Frees, or is it an imitator?
GrayManichean 5 months ago
@GrayManichean Yes, that is Paul Frees in the beginning. The clip is from a radio ad.
Mansionology 5 months ago
it has... the troll face!!! D:
chafaman123 5 months ago
the 3 hitchhiking ghosts dont like this.
TECfan1 5 months ago 37
@TECfan1 I loved it. What are you talking about?
PhineasTheGhost 1 month ago
@TECfan1 I think 4 :D
TheTGT2 1 month ago
I;ve been on this ride for years, and I have never heard of the Hatbox Ghost until last october. Hopefully when they reinstall him, I'll get to see him.
newguy09100 5 months ago
there is probably some guy looking at this video saying "I really shouldnt have took that thing
tkkrupnikas 5 months ago
the bride totes moved at 3:12
iMaxStephen 5 months ago 7
So I guess Tony's memory is off by a few days. Thanks for finding and sharing that footage!
rayvnluv 6 months ago
when i die id like to visit the hauntedmansion and scare people
14duno 6 months ago
Wait, so was this from your home movies or did you find them somewhere else?
LivaAndCo 6 months ago
does anything pop out of somewhere in theis video
TheElementalWizard 6 months ago
So the hatbox ghost, as just a prop is now a ghost?
A ghost in a ghost INCEPTION.
LilMissDizzy14 6 months ago 4
While i was in my haunted mansion phase i showed her the pic of this ghost (doombuggies) and she said she remembered it. I asked when since she lived in mexico and never went to disneyland in the 60's and she told me a year b4 you were born making it 1992. I thought Impossible! but she even remembered the disappearing head effect. Maybe they tried to bring him back???
emotexmex 6 months ago
This is as exciting and chilling as if you had a real ghost on film.
Jasonbobdude 6 months ago
This guy has such a creepy voice. It reminds me of HAL or something.
BUT HEY it's the Hatbox Ghost! What great footage!
Spazzbert 6 months ago
Guy: freeze right there
Me: *stops video* bcuz this guys voice gives me chills
WaLDo999991 6 months ago 23
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kiddisney1 6 months ago
@Bloodnswash Same here. Forgot how many friends of mine I sent this to, and they were blown away by this. Talk about amazing...now if Disneyland could only bring him back...
CC007 6 months ago
Well even if it didn't work in the mansion back then... then why cant that try to make it now? I'm sure they have crazy more effects they can work with now... I mean come on PUT IN THE HAT BOX GHOST DISNEY!
tamkins777 6 months ago
@Mansionology So, the hanging man is the ghost host since the man with the neuce/hatchet in the portrait is "the ghost host", correct? Is there any proof that Gracey is the man in the aging portrait? I always assumed that gracey was the man in the aging portrait and that the ghost host and the hanging man weren't affiliated; but now I realize they were since the host says "there's always my way.."
spongebobslushpants1 6 months ago
@spongebobslushpants1 Yes, the hanging skeleton is the Ghost Host's remains and the "hatchet man" painting is his portrait. The "aging man" portrait in the foyer depicts the master of the house, according to Jason Surrell. It still hasn't been 100% confirmed whether or not Master Gracey is the "master" in the foyer portrait.
Mansionology 6 months ago
A very chilling glimpse of the ghost! I find the Haunted Mansion to be an extremely mysterious and compelling experience, even if it were just for the history alone. The ride is a masterpiece!
MrElectricBill 6 months ago
Omg, this is amazing. Thank you so much for this. Wow!
Smilee306 6 months ago
That's astonishing! I never thought I'd ever see ANY video footage of the old guy!
perkyboy13 7 months ago
woah... creepy! the Hatbox ghost must be a REAL ghost...
WumWip 7 months ago
Oh my god that is awesome.
InvaderDusk 7 months ago
When Taco Bell removed olives from its menu (and thus from their 7-Layer Burrito), how did the 7-Layer Burrito continue to have seven layers?
hididdleydee 7 months ago
@hididdleydee
they replaced the seventh layer with sauce
WumWip 7 months ago
What's the name of his other channel??
bigt106 7 months ago
I have a question, how long do you suppose he was in the attic? And where is he now?
LEGOMaster56 7 months ago
@LEGOMaster56 He was only in the ride for maybe a couple of days...A week tops. It is now a mystery where he is now. Disney doesn't even know his whereabouts. It's all a mystery of what became of him :S
Blu923the2nd 7 months ago
@Blu923the2nd I know where his head is. :) Look on his FB page, then go to his photos.
LEGOMaster56 7 months ago
@LEGOMaster56 Just an old picture, or maybe even a replica (more likely a replica). As Tony Baxter said in this video, all of his figure molds are gone, the characters are gone, everything that has to do with this character is gone. It disappeared. It's most likely he was chopped down for his parts. Although he wasn't an advanced figure that could build lets say a charcter in America Sings, but they most likely used some of his parts to help build other characters. Sad, huh?
Blu923the2nd 7 months ago
@Blu923the2nd i was refering to how is head is still in the mansion, it's used as a pop up ghost
LEGOMaster56 7 months ago
@LEGOMaster56
uh. I 'm not so sure. I have compaired the pics and they don't match.
That is my opinion and feel free to dissagree.
tornadoe13 7 months ago
THANK YOU!
charliebrown2417 7 months ago
amazing! you can
see his hand shaking with his cane like that anamontronic
book said. did anyone noticed?
althegamefreak 7 months ago
Same thing happened with a animatronic horse at Dollyworld!!! It's a conspiracy!!!
cthulhu8 7 months ago
I'm sure that part of the love of the hat box ghost came from the fact that Walt's uncle was a hatter and he often would use hat boxes in his work as a nod to his uncle (ie: the hat box that Lady is given to Darling in Lady and the Tramp).
LadyRogueTiger 7 months ago
why the fuck do people care about this soo much? So a robot that didnt have its effects working properly was removed. Who gives a shit...
jayrobson88 7 months ago
@jayrobson88 obviously people who care about it. Who the fuck goes on videos about things they don't care about and leave comments. Oh yeah. Trolls!
markiemark8585 7 months ago
I think I must have seen a promotional for this guy when I was quite young because it is familiar and maybe this is reason I did not like the Mansion when I was young!
Wakkosgirl 7 months ago
Want him back? I'm not sure Hattie ever LEFT.
After all, SOMEBODY is back there throwing the switches that make everything go . . .and nobody has ever explained where he went . . .
SoloPilot6 7 months ago
This was surprisingly interesting.
AgentRayBans 7 months ago
Amazing vid mate!
Alexletchford86 7 months ago
Thank you so much for that video, me and my friend have made so many suggestions upon this, we have learned that for the upcoming Haunted mansion movie, there's a chance for good old Hatbox to return. Let's cross our fingers and hope so
Skullatoran 7 months ago
Then if he was removed there are only 998 ghosts in the mansion.
Kodachrome40 7 months ago 26
@Kodachrome40 heeeeeeyy! your right! wouldn't have pointed that out. that.
thebttfchannel 7 months ago
@Kodachrome40 Don't forget the moving Knight! Now it's only 997.
hunter62378 6 months ago
@Kodachrome40
You're forgetting the promotional thing Disney did where they added a real person to the the ride. The winner got a tombstone that is placed near the gravedigger in the graveyard scene.
acemrawesome 5 months ago
Now THAT is awesome.
EvilgidgitReturns 7 months ago
so cool!! i want him in the ride!!! its weird how know one knows his whereabouts, how could tht have happened? creepy
msladysaurus 7 months ago
@msladysaurus rumour has it he was reused as one of the eagles in the attraction america sings but i find that unlikely as the hatbox ghost was too simple to be that kind of animatronic: he was really just made up of wire and the two heads (1 on the body, 1 in the hatbox), nothing else. There's even rumours that a hatbox ghost was made for the disneyworld mansion but never installed. If that version of the hatbox ghost even existed, funnily no one knows where that 1 is either
nuclear1250 7 months ago
@nuclear1250 hmmm, i guess it will always be a mystery:)
msladysaurus 7 months ago
Well, time to stop calling Mom a liar.
TheHarlequinHatter 7 months ago
he belongs there and should return
tornadoe13 7 months ago
I love how they post signs like that "Post-Lifetime leases available" and then get mad when people spread ashes in there.
They should have a program or something where people can place their ashes in an urn and they're stored somewhere in the mansion.
Demithegoddess 7 months ago
@Demithegoddess The reason why they get mad is because those ashes haven't paid their lease - they're squatters!
kelath5555 7 months ago
They need the hatbox for walt's frozen head
supermadman 7 months ago
@Bloodnswash As did I! I was expecting the Hatbox ghost to came out from my darkened bathroom and ask me to become the 1000th soul in the mansion.
TheForceFollower94 7 months ago
This adds so much mystery to the mythology of the Haunted Mansion and Disneyland itself. I love it, it really shows the stories and tales than can arise from this special land.
TheForceFollower94 7 months ago
Good Show! (good job)
brianf01 7 months ago
THAT IS FANTASTIC! :). My mom and aunt actually went to Disneyland back in '69 the weekend Haunted Mansion opened. She remembers it being quite an event, the cue almost starting where Pirates is located. Recently we were talking about the Haunted Mansion, and I had to ask her did she see this figure. Thanks to the internet, found a pic...and she was like "whoa!!...I remember that!...he was creepy..but we didn't get what he was supposed to do..." this very cool, thanks for posting.
CC007 7 months ago
I have never looked for the hatbox ghost but now I will have to. @MANEATINGWREATH I personally think that it would be a great mystery to future generations but I think it would also be something for them to look out for when they ride the ride. Thats my personal opinion to weither or not to for him to remain a mystery or not.
DisneyFan7804 7 months ago
which dineyland was the origonal manson in?
tornadoe13 7 months ago
@tornadoe13 The original Haunted Manson is in California. The very first park was in California so California had all of the firsts before the rest of the Disneyland parks.
RumsGone 7 months ago
@RumsGone
darn. bit to far for me to visit
tornadoe13 7 months ago
@tornadoe13 I believe you are asking which park got the first mansion? If so, Disneyland. It opened in 1969. Walt Disney World's mansion opened with the park in 1971, and all the others in the 80s and 90s :)
Blu923the2nd 7 months ago
@Blu923the2nd
no I'm trying to find out the location of the first disney park and the place where this mansion was so I can visit one day whey it's been put back
tornadoe13 7 months ago
@tornadoe13 I just said: Disneyland. Disneyland in Anaheim was the first park to ever been opened (1955). He is supposed to return, but funding was cut short. I honestly think that reason was a lie (it was released by Disney). I'm pretty sure he will be added when the new Haunted Mansion movie comes out next year (the Hatbox Ghost is the main character in this new film)
Blu923the2nd 7 months ago
I think Hatbox Ghost would be a great addition and I'm sure today the technology could be perfected. How exciting to have real proof of him!
DamianGarcia92 7 months ago
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DamianGarcia92 7 months ago
Wow, this is great. Disney history is so interesting I love it.
AyaBaya11 7 months ago
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Smallpoxproductions 7 months ago
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So freaking cool
troodon311 7 months ago
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Smallpoxproductions 7 months ago
Thank you for such legitimate information. Like before, I still like your voice. haha.
quickattack 7 months ago
All I can say is WOW. This really is an amazing video and discovery. Bravo to the Disney History Institute and please keep them coming.
So my opinion, and answer to your question? As I was watching the video on Miceage and before seeing the question, I was thinking "this really should come back to the HM using today's technology."
c33royal 7 months ago
Great video and I like how you combined different pieces of old footage and told the story in detail. Thanks for putting this together. Ignore the haters.
cheriarnold 7 months ago
I would love for the Hatbox ghost to be added into today's mansion, I pretty sure we've got the technology to do the effect justice. The only problem arrises when you consider that the story of hte attic has changed considerably.... so I don't know how they would add this character into there..... amazing video though
Jmarsh1955 7 months ago
@Jmarsh1955: Well, since Constance is titled the Black Widow Bride (seeing as she kills her various grooms-to-be by beheading them), The Hatbox Ghost would work, since he literally loses his head over his bride.
TherealRNO 7 months ago
@Jmarsh1955: This, of course, differs from the stories told about the Beating Heart Bride (christened Emily by fans, but called Elizabeth in the 2003 film) that existed before hatchet-brandishing Constance, for in one story, Emily's groom is sea pirate Captain Blood (Nuptial Doom, ironically recorded recently by Connie's voice actress), in another, The Hatbox Ghost is her proposed groom, but in most other tellings--no matter how she is killed--she is wed to Ghost Host, Master Gracey.
TherealRNO 7 months ago
@TherealRNO Master Gracey is not the Ghost Host.
Mansionology 7 months ago
@Mansionology: The officially released lapel pins & the 2003 film with Eddie Murphy say otherwise.
TherealRNO 7 months ago
@TherealRNO That stuff does not count. WDI's official stance is that Master Gracey is NOT the Ghost Host.
Mansionology 7 months ago
@Mansionology: They wouldn't have allowed the above if he weren't. Face it, your argument holds no weght, whilst mine is backed by various stories told over the years by various people who worked on the Mansion, by Connie's voice actress herself (she recorded Nuptial Doom), the 2003 film, & officially released merch like the lapel pins.
TherealRNO 7 months ago
@TherealRNO You have no idea what you're talking about, dude. You think fan fiction (which includes cast member stories) and licensed (but NON-CANON) material overrules Imagineering?
The bride had NO official name. NO backstory. Until 2006. Her name is Constance.
The Ghost Host was never meant to be Master Gracey. That was an incorrect fan assumption that gained popularity. The guy with the noose around his neck and holding a hatchet is the Ghost Host as envisioned by Marc Davis.
Mansionology 7 months ago
@Mansionology: "The Ghost Host was never meant to be Master Gracey" you say, yet besides the 2003 film & Nuptial Doom, other officialized recordings licensed by Disney--such as The Song & Story of The Haunted Mansion--would also disagree with this, given the opening speil, "Good evening. Welcome to The Haunted Mansion. I am your host. Your Ghost Host. Kindly step this way. You will not be harmed, but you will not be released until you take a tour of my home."
TherealRNO 7 months ago
@TherealRNO "Licensed by Disney" does not make something canon. There was also a Haunted Mansion book released by the Disney company that names the Leota character "Madame Blackheart" and the bride "Sally Little."
The Ghost Host saying "my home" in the Story and Song album doesn't mean anything, except for that it's his home.
Mansionology 7 months ago
@Mansionology: Excuse me, but the ORIGINAL Imagineers CAME UP with the "fanon" stories. Nuptial Doom is ITSELF based on the stories told to Kat (the VOICE of Constance) by her father as an original Imagineer during the Mansion's early years. So really, the "fanon" stories were, at one time--prior to the 2006 & 2007 rehaunt--canon to the Mansion lore, as was the notion that Master Gracey & The Ghost Host were synonymous.
TherealRNO 7 months ago
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Mansionology 7 months ago
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@TherealRNO Wrong. None of that Master Gracey/Gracey Manor backstory came from the original Imagineers. There was a tombstone with the name Master Gracey. That's it.
"Nuptial Doom" was written by John Starling and Kat Cressida. It's based on Ken Anderson's Captain Gore backstory that was ultimately unused.
Mansionology 7 months ago
Jesus christ.....the narration.... is SO BAD in this video.....that I just....want to punch my tv.
EterLeo 7 months ago
@EterLeo I concur. This should be a 2 minute video... tops.
theorioleguy 7 months ago
Hattie! Holy crap, man, you made the find of a Mansion fan's lifetime there.
lastxwriter 7 months ago
See Orlando...my little brother. I do remember seeing the Hat Box Ghost when I was very little I even told him where I saw it and it was in the same place as I described that it on this video. I was right..I was very small but I have a very good memory. Well I do hope to see again soon. Thank you so much for this video. Great Investigative Work. Great Video...
jmrios777 7 months ago
Whoa, amazing. So he WAS there after the Mansion opened to the public. Upon seeing this footage, I must admit that he looked pretty creepy in the attic scene. After the new movie comes out (next year), I really hope they put him back in the ride. Think about this, technology has really come a long way since the 60s. I'm sure they can do something really special with him. Like have his head disapear every time Constance raises her axe.
copperkiddo 7 months ago
Awesome video! :)
ourTTCjourney 7 months ago
AH, WHERE DID IT GO!?
Great video btw SUBSCRIBED
greasydame 7 months ago
Outstanding! Thank you for sharing:D
tojorozombie 7 months ago
that doombuggies photo of the hatbox, i thought the head was suppose to disappear and appear in the hatbox, it did not disappear from the body was in both places the body and the hatbox.
rickamerson 7 months ago
@rickamerson The illusion of the head disappearing from his shoulders and reappearing in the box was done by lighting. There were two heads, both staying put, however, the lighting was suppose to go out on one spot, and come up in another. The pic you see is both being illuminated. The main reason the Hatbox Ghost went away, is, well... the trick didn't work very well.
Tkfore21 7 months ago
its been announced that hes coming back
CharlieOmfg 7 months ago
@CharlieOmfg by who?
doombuggywa 7 months ago
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@doombuggywa i read it on wikipedia just go there and read about it :)
CharlieOmfg 7 months ago
The coolest thing would be to bring him back, but only on an irregular basis - once a week or so. It would be a luck of the draw thing that would add even more to his allure.
arjuna808 7 months ago
Finally!!! This is MAJOR news for the Disney fan community. It's like (and I'm not stretching this) someone captured footage of Jesus. I freakin kid you not!!!
Oh, and how can Tony Baxter just stand there with that "thing" moving and hissing at him?? Creepy!
ReesiePuffs64 7 months ago 3
@ReesiePuffs64: "Oh, and how can Tony Baxter just stand there with that "thing" moving and hissing at him?? Creepy!"
Emily--as she christened by fans--is NOT a thing. In the story, she is a heartbreak spirit. In fact, even with Constance having replaced her, Emily's heartbeat can still be heard, most likely to set up the return of ol' Hatty.
TherealRNO 7 months ago
@TherealRNO
Oh, I know the mythology of the mansion. That's facinating stuff. And I prefer Emily's story to Constance. It just makes more sense. It fits with the whole socializing not scaring thing. But I just mean the animatronic itself! I for one would be freaked out of my mind standing in front of it not knowing when the pressure valve would be released causing it to jerk about. Baxter has some balls.
ReesiePuffs64 7 months ago
@ReesiePuffs64
The bride was never named Emily. That was made up by cast members. For some reason, many fans still insist that the bride's "real" name was Emily and that she had a tragic backstory, etc. There was no official name or backstory for the bride character until 2006 (Constance).
Mansionology 7 months ago
@Mansionology
I'm aware of that. Just like how many fans insist that the painting of the young man is Master Gracy when it is really the noose man. Or that Yale Gracy's nickname was never supposed to be a character. Or how the Yeti is called Harold. Or the Fantasmic dragons. The Florida one is Joanne and the Cali one is Murphy.
ReesiePuffs64 7 months ago
What a great find! Finally, proof that the legendary Old Hattie lived in the Mansion for a time. Case closed!
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