@SparzWizard Lelouch did not "manipulate" Rolo OR Jeremiah. Rolo was sent from the Britannian monarchy to act as a spy for Lelouch by Charles; Rolo began to truly care for Lelouch out of his own will. Jeremiah never did come to assassinate Lelouch; when he heard that Lelouch's true loyalty was not to evil, they both joined forces, keeping his loyalty intact. Manipulation wasn't applied in either of those cases.
@9ssgoku Nah Lelouch employed a fair amount of manipulation on Rolo. He acted all friendly and brotherly, making rolo trust him. but lelouch actually hated him.
@MayzeSigSzalay Rolo couldn't have been "manipulated" because for most of the time in question when Rolo was with Lelouch, Lelouch had lost his memory and had no idea of his previous life. It was during that time when Rolo began caring for Lelouch, and Lelouch only started hating Rolo after he got his memory back. In the end, Lelouch acknowledged that Rolo loved him as a true brother.
The relationship these two have is awesome, on par with C.C. and Suzaku. Jeremiah is more than just some servant, he's MOTHERFUCKING LOY-er, very dedicated.
The master/servant thing just doesn't do it for me. Whenever there's one who serves willingly and enthusiastically, you know you've got a badass character on your hands.
@guibin I like to interpret it as him already considering Lelouch as his true liege lord who ranked below no one though ^_^. During history some people did that too, they didn't wait until everybody else accepted their leader as King to accept him/her as such. It seems most of the times CG's authors did understand the differences between "Majesty/Heika" and " "Highness/Denka", and -sama, -dono etc...
I was 100% sure it was going to be a trap and that Jeremiah was about to sell him out or something. I was not expecting him to swear loyalty (and not betray him) after being tormented by him so much. Especially at the end, where he just smiles and implies that he acknowledges/approves at how much hes grown before his finale.
What I think most people are getting mixed up is that he knew that Lelouch was Charles' son. But the "vi Britannia" part of his name was unknown to Orange, which is what made him realize that he was Marianne's son and thus him switching his loyalty to Lelouch.
I don't get this in the English dub, he says "AGAINST YOUR FATHER!?" So if he knew Lelouch was Lelouch vi Britannia (mentioning the Emperor) why was he surprised at Lelouch saying he was Vi Britannia? makes no sense!
Maybe it's more ''against your father'' who is also britannian and because in most cultures when you turn against your country (which implies family) you are also defying the head of your family - your father, and that is totally unimaginable for someone like Jeremiah Gottwald
This would make the most sense, but I gotta admit it IS confusing
@littlesmurf95 Jeremiah knew who he really was. He asked that question to find out the reason why he rebels. When he discovers Lelouch's reason is based on his family. Jeremiah desides to join him. He was Lelouch's mothers bodygaurd and extremely loyal to the family.
@benben829 Jeremiah knew who he really was. He asked that question to find out the reason why he rebels. When he discovers Lelouch's reason is based on his family. Jeremiah desides to join him. He was Lelouch's mothers bodygaurd and extremely loyal to the family.
@theburntshadow i think he was deliberately chasing him slowly plus Lelouch keepet throwing up smoke screens ans using diversions to mislead gotwald its not that hes in bad shape it just that Lelouch is smarter
Hmm, an obvious error in the subbing. He asks Lelouch why he would turn against his own father, and then is surprised that he is in fact, Prince Lelouch? At this point, he did not know Lelouch was a prince, and had no idea he was Marianne's son.
Jeremiah knew that Lelouch was a prince of The Holy Britannian Empire and thus a son of Charles. What he didn't knew was that he was Lelouch vi Britannia, the son of Marianne. Jeremiah is extraordinary loyal.
I am not questioning Lord Jerimiah's loyalty, I admire that. However, it still seems absurd to me that he apparently knows Lelouch is a prince of Britannia, who happens to be NAMED lelouch, and it never occurred to him it was Marianne's son? I've checked the Dub, and while it can't be said to be a definitive source, his questions before Lelouch reveals his identity make it clear Jerimiah only wants to know why he betrayed his country and Emperor, not that he knows Lelouch is a prince.
There are two more things I forgot to mention, one is that Lelouch Lamperouge (sorry if I spelled it wrong, no time to check) is a false name and the fact that Lelouch vi Britannia is thought to be dead.
No they'll form William Wallace. He shoots fireballs out 'his eyes and lightning out his 'arse, Cause he's the William Wallace. Did I also mention he was a robot?
I wonder if any one ever think about this, but basically with Jeremiah by his side Lelouch almost invincible. His Geass weakness is that it had to make eye contact and it can only work one per person. With Jeremiah geass canceler he can just use it then Jeremiah cancel then he can use it again.
When lelouch rescued suzaku in the first season, he called jeremiah 'orange-kun' then used geass to force jeremiah to help him, implying that jeremiah was acutally on his side.
Yeah, episode 4, it was awsome. The purists had a disband because of Jeremiah giving Suzaku away, and later beacuse of Kallen and the Guren Mk.II, he got his brain cells destroid and he also lost one of his eyes....poor guy, he went through alot...
1:44
Whoa, Lelouch got a little emotional when he started to reminisce about the assassination.
Poor guy.
TheViewerXD 3 weeks ago
I seriously thought that Jeremiah was faking and that he was going to attack Lelouch right then and there. But I guess his loyalty can fool people.
spartanlz 1 month ago 2
@spartanlz yep lelouch took a very very high risk there
Valnar22 2 weeks ago
yes, your majesty.
Bernie0girl 1 month ago
I thought he was gonna turn his back on Lelouch right when he turned off the Gefion Disturber.
LoveOfPop 1 month ago
Jeremiah Gottwald: 50% Man 50% Machine 200% Motherfucking Loyalty.
oneperson2person 2 months ago
I love the way the japanese voice actors say "Yes, your majesty!". Just sounds so right.
shadohead55 3 months ago 2
0:29 epic troll face
Stripetail4EV 4 months ago
ORANGE...
redxXxblack123 4 months ago
What episode is this on? :)
Frankyhouse91 5 months ago
NO DISLIKES! :D
Rukeya89 5 months ago 2
Damn, first Rolo and now Jeremiah...Lelouch is boss in manipulating people with or without the Geass help!
SparzWizard 5 months ago
@SparzWizard
he isn't manipulating.
It is the truth with Jeremiah...
dongwon0308 5 months ago
@SparzWizard Lelouch did not "manipulate" Rolo OR Jeremiah. Rolo was sent from the Britannian monarchy to act as a spy for Lelouch by Charles; Rolo began to truly care for Lelouch out of his own will. Jeremiah never did come to assassinate Lelouch; when he heard that Lelouch's true loyalty was not to evil, they both joined forces, keeping his loyalty intact. Manipulation wasn't applied in either of those cases.
9ssgoku 2 months ago
@9ssgoku Nah Lelouch employed a fair amount of manipulation on Rolo. He acted all friendly and brotherly, making rolo trust him. but lelouch actually hated him.
MayzeSigSzalay 2 months ago
@MayzeSigSzalay Rolo couldn't have been "manipulated" because for most of the time in question when Rolo was with Lelouch, Lelouch had lost his memory and had no idea of his previous life. It was during that time when Rolo began caring for Lelouch, and Lelouch only started hating Rolo after he got his memory back. In the end, Lelouch acknowledged that Rolo loved him as a true brother.
9ssgoku 2 months ago
I really liked that Jeremiah got a happy ending.
mk741 5 months ago 9
@mk741 everyone did man...even Lelouch to an extent
OzakiRain 5 months ago
The relationship these two have is awesome, on par with C.C. and Suzaku. Jeremiah is more than just some servant, he's MOTHERFUCKING LOY-er, very dedicated.
The master/servant thing just doesn't do it for me. Whenever there's one who serves willingly and enthusiastically, you know you've got a badass character on your hands.
assassinscreed00 5 months ago 3
YES! YOUR MAJESTY! Alsoyourgirfriendisdead...
dannyaelchannel 5 months ago 7
The machine is leaking, the human is crying.
ccummings4012 6 months ago
2:41
"Yes, Your Majesty?"
But Lelouch hadn't become Emperor at that time. Jeremiah should have said "Yes, Your Highness."
CNFanLDE 6 months ago
@CNFanLDE I think the dub corrects that...I don't remember though I haven't watched the dub in forever...
AlchemyAngelizBack 5 months ago
@CNFanLDE
because Jeremiah said "Yes, Your Majesty" in Engrish. If the subbers went with "Yes, Your Highness" it would have been confusing.
guibin 5 months ago
@guibin I like to interpret it as him already considering Lelouch as his true liege lord who ranked below no one though ^_^. During history some people did that too, they didn't wait until everybody else accepted their leader as King to accept him/her as such. It seems most of the times CG's authors did understand the differences between "Majesty/Heika" and " "Highness/Denka", and -sama, -dono etc...
Alcoholmixture 3 months ago
Orange-kun is such a bro.
I was 100% sure it was going to be a trap and that Jeremiah was about to sell him out or something. I was not expecting him to swear loyalty (and not betray him) after being tormented by him so much. Especially at the end, where he just smiles and implies that he acknowledges/approves at how much hes grown before his finale.
Orange-kun, forever a full-on mega bro.
zilililidur 6 months ago 9
@zilililidur right i was expecting Jeremiah to stab lelouch
Jhonnywarblaze 6 months ago
one of the best scenes in the anime
safado441 7 months ago
0:30 Am I the only who LOVES that smile? It's almost as good as the one he uses when he has just conquered the world.
TheOrangePortal 7 months ago 6
@TheOrangePortal
You're not the only one :)
sweetsweetsorrow43 7 months ago
Wait what happens after this again??
muyono 8 months ago
@muyono Shirley's Death.......in HD.
Fiercedeitypwns 8 months ago
ORANGE!!!
aznsoldier7 8 months ago
What I think most people are getting mixed up is that he knew that Lelouch was Charles' son. But the "vi Britannia" part of his name was unknown to Orange, which is what made him realize that he was Marianne's son and thus him switching his loyalty to Lelouch.
Wolblade 9 months ago 4
1:22
"Your very own father"
but if he knows Lelouch is a prince, why is he surprised at Lelouch's response?
WolfytheWolf5667 9 months ago
@WolfytheWolf5667 PLOTHOLE!
gaaraanime5 5 months ago
orenji- kun :)
Akamatsuki 9 months ago
Hehe, one quick look at the comments and nothing but marianne + servants = this anime :p
darkruler251 10 months ago
just how much of jeremiah is machine now he bleeds oil for gods sake i wonder if he wont age if he's that much of a robot
master10999 10 months ago
@master10999 Well, from the looks of it. I think half his torso is machine, and so is his left leg. The head is pretty self explanetory.
Samuraiedge2 8 months ago
@darksergent HAHAHAHA Yeah I realized that too LOL!
bakugancollecterZ 10 months ago
got dam why does everyone keep talking about Marianne like shes a god in the series, must of given some great bj throughout her time
darksergent 11 months ago 54
50% human
50% machine
100% Orange
200% MOTHERFUCKING LOYALTY
that1dude0092 11 months ago 216
@that1dude0092 and 100% reason to remember the name...
Pwneaterz 1 month ago
The very first time Lelouch gets called "Your Majesty".
MeteorPhoenix1127 11 months ago 6
In that moment the true Orange was born.
Jacobpatrickedwards 11 months ago
Before Orange boy even knew that Lelouch was part of the royal family but he said why did you turn against your father before he found out.
XxSSJ5GogetaxX 1 year ago
It's like Lelouch chose between his girlfriend and his favorite servant.
kome360 1 year ago
I Just Realized Every In This anime Get A Boner When ever it's a Bout Lady Marianne.
rashiedhozuki123 1 year ago 2
I actually have some respect for Jeremiah now, and god damn, that geass cancellor is a bitch, it made something terrible happen after this event
TheViewerXD 1 year ago
Jeremiah = Sesshomaru voice!
JLuvie123 1 year ago
0:29 probably the sexiest evil face in all of humanity
KingofNothing013 1 year ago
He's bleeding Chocolate o-O?!
BatistaTheAnimal45 1 year ago
@BatistaTheAnimal45 I beleive thats oil... holy shit... is chocolate possibly... OIL?!!?
IAMFEFNIR 1 year ago
Lol that damn switch he has it seems to do whatever he wants it to all the time for 50 different things
XxSSJ5GogetaxX 1 year ago
I find it hard to believe that the voice behind Jeremiah is the same voice behind Sesshomaru.
680540 1 year ago
200% MUTHAFUCKING LOYALTY!!!!!
SaphiraHorse 1 year ago 3
HOLD ON A SECOND!!! Did Lelouch just ran???
Warrior536 1 year ago 7
@Warrior536 no thats not possible he has no stamina
suzaku214 1 year ago
@suzaku214
This HAS to be his maid disguised as him...
Warrior536 1 year ago
I don't get this in the English dub, he says "AGAINST YOUR FATHER!?" So if he knew Lelouch was Lelouch vi Britannia (mentioning the Emperor) why was he surprised at Lelouch saying he was Vi Britannia? makes no sense!
WolfytheWolf5667 1 year ago
@WolfytheWolf5667
Maybe it's more ''against your father'' who is also britannian and because in most cultures when you turn against your country (which implies family) you are also defying the head of your family - your father, and that is totally unimaginable for someone like Jeremiah Gottwald
This would make the most sense, but I gotta admit it IS confusing
Kamzui 1 year ago
I loved this turn of events. Seriously nice.
Yaveyta 1 year ago
i just noticed something jeremiah is truly "a clockwork orange" (if you dont get it watch a clockwork orange)
deadboy126 1 year ago
@deadboy126 I thought the same ! Goro Taniguchi once said that Clockwork Orange was one of his inspirations ! ^_^
Zappacho 1 year ago
The best part about this scene is what comes next...
Dstorm20xx 1 year ago
Orange Wins an Award for being the most persistent person in the whole series! LOL!
ZeroRequiemGX 1 year ago
WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!
Jeremiah said: Why do you turn upon your father?
And Lelouch says: Because I am Lelouch Vi Britannia.
Should Jeremiah know that due to what he said earlier?
benben829 1 year ago
@benben829 No he just thought he was Lelouch Lamperouge, a random Britannian student
littlesmurf95 1 year ago
@littlesmurf95 Jeremiah knew who he really was. He asked that question to find out the reason why he rebels. When he discovers Lelouch's reason is based on his family. Jeremiah desides to join him. He was Lelouch's mothers bodygaurd and extremely loyal to the family.
KidBuu699 1 year ago
@benben829 Jeremiah knew who he really was. He asked that question to find out the reason why he rebels. When he discovers Lelouch's reason is based on his family. Jeremiah desides to join him. He was Lelouch's mothers bodygaurd and extremely loyal to the family.
KidBuu699 1 year ago
He's just to badass XD Orange forever!
stsars13 1 year ago 2
Orange in the first season = A huge annoying laugh
Orange in the second season = ONE OF THE BEST FUCKING CHARACTERS.
How did that happen?
LasgalenOsten 1 year ago 16
@LasgalenOsten
Character development is a strange but wonderful thing indeed
Someguyhere111 1 year ago
Its just One Big Happy Plot Twist For Him!, Bro!
ZeroRequiemGX 1 year ago
PLOT! TWIST! + CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT = ONE BAD ASS ORANGE
ZeroRequiemGX 1 year ago 2
jeremiah gotwald
50% man
50% machine
100% orange
200% MOTHER FUCKING LOYALTY
pkemr4 1 year ago 17
At first I hated him, but everything Orange does after this scene is quite BA.
YorkJonhson 1 year ago 6
Jeremiah must either be running slowly, or is in worse shape than Lelouch, if he just caught up to him now.
theburntshadow 1 year ago
@theburntshadow Well lelouch WAS like three levels ahead of him
TheHandOfKane 1 year ago
@theburntshadow i think he was deliberately chasing him slowly plus Lelouch keepet throwing up smoke screens ans using diversions to mislead gotwald its not that hes in bad shape it just that Lelouch is smarter
engelmohr2006 1 year ago
Nobody can say "Your majesty" like Jeremiah.
nagaking07 1 year ago 7
Actually Try Watching Kirisutshuji 2
Then you will see something good!
ZeroRequiemGX 1 year ago
@ZeroRequiemGX i think you tried to say "kuroshitsuji 2" XD
vijinxed 1 year ago
Oh! Right! Sorry bout that!, its just hard to recall that name XD
ZeroRequiemGX 1 year ago
You did it for lady Marianne!!
Lelouch:uhh... sure i dd...*shifty eyes*
Dstorm20xx 1 year ago 8
what episode is this on R2?
darkarchon7793 1 year ago
Th very first time Lelouch as referred to as Your Majesty. Fun times.
MeteorPhoenix1127 2 years ago 5
"Yes, Your Maj-"
Kaedechtu 2 years ago 6
@Kaedechtu LOL
Shyrka66 1 year ago
MOTHERFUCKING LOYALTY!!!
assassinscreed00 2 years ago 6
The worst thing about this scene is what comes next....
DarthHawthorne 2 years ago 149
@DarthHawthorne Yeah :'''(
Sorrygonefishing 1 year ago
@DarthHawthorne poor shirley
snipemaster111 1 year ago
@DarthHawthorne you mean some hot steamy yaoi action?XD
gohpenghng 1 year ago
@DarthHawthorne I loved the next part
DragonMaster459 11 months ago
@DarthHawthorne ...what comes next.... (o_o)
lemmiwinksable 11 months ago
@lemmiwinksable have you seen the entire show? What comes shortly after is incredibly sad.
sdn14 11 months ago
@DarthHawthorne which is what exactly i forgot
Jhonnywarblaze 6 months ago
he knew that Lelouch is the son of Marianne. He is surprised that this is the reason he beat .
princemordred 2 years ago
Hmm, an obvious error in the subbing. He asks Lelouch why he would turn against his own father, and then is surprised that he is in fact, Prince Lelouch? At this point, he did not know Lelouch was a prince, and had no idea he was Marianne's son.
Urbonov 2 years ago 3
Jeremiah knew that Lelouch was a prince of The Holy Britannian Empire and thus a son of Charles. What he didn't knew was that he was Lelouch vi Britannia, the son of Marianne. Jeremiah is extraordinary loyal.
tiaxanderson 2 years ago
I am not questioning Lord Jerimiah's loyalty, I admire that. However, it still seems absurd to me that he apparently knows Lelouch is a prince of Britannia, who happens to be NAMED lelouch, and it never occurred to him it was Marianne's son? I've checked the Dub, and while it can't be said to be a definitive source, his questions before Lelouch reveals his identity make it clear Jerimiah only wants to know why he betrayed his country and Emperor, not that he knows Lelouch is a prince.
Urbonov 2 years ago 2
There are two more things I forgot to mention, one is that Lelouch Lamperouge (sorry if I spelled it wrong, no time to check) is a false name and the fact that Lelouch vi Britannia is thought to be dead.
tiaxanderson 2 years ago 5
as soon as this scene was over i thought
"Oh, now its on" ^^
CyberSlayer128 2 years ago
[spoiler alert]
funny thing is,...lelouch kills his father and mother later in the anime.....
so if jeramiah knew.... he would turn against lulu i think
kandex 2 years ago
true.. but i think that jeremiah changes his views and becomes a full supporter of lelouch, not his mother...
piplilpop1 2 years ago 7
Jeremiah wouldn't really mind. Marianne and Charles (V.V. too) planned all of that (the whole assassination on Marianne and such)
tiaxanderson 2 years ago
Now Lelouch's army is complete; Death To The Emperor!
MarlonTheRogue 2 years ago 6
... And this is where I just love that Citrus-Powered Cyborg Magnificent Bastard...
Aznninja123 2 years ago
That was the most epic plot-twist I've ever seen.
MoritaMasami 2 years ago 6
I love him. He's awsome! but it makes me sad that so many bad things happend to him ._. He's one of my favourites
and sorry for my english. I'm from Germany xD
SayuraPhoenix 2 years ago
i dont see why your saying your english was bad. it was perfectly understandable.
crazyforte 2 years ago 2
i was like whoa, he's a good guy now? heh, i didn't believe it at first
thepunkster90 2 years ago
thats just bad luck first day as a bodyguard and the persone u have to protect dies
Tokumastu 2 years ago
Best combo on earth:
C.C(Immortal) + Lelouch + Jeremiah + Suzaku + some badass Knightmares.
Leviathen93 2 years ago 9
C.C(immortal)
Lelouch(brilliant commander with an awsome motivation and outfit and voice)
Jeremiah(man of pure epicness and chivalry)
Suazaku(has an awsome crazy laugh and spin kick)
Knightmares(fucking major awsome epic)
crazyforte 2 years ago 6
Don't Forget Lord Pudding! XD
And when there powers combine they will summon Captain Brittania.
ZeroRequiemGX 1 year ago
@ZeroRequiemGX
No they'll form William Wallace. He shoots fireballs out 'his eyes and lightning out his 'arse, Cause he's the William Wallace. Did I also mention he was a robot?
WolfytheWolf5667 1 year ago
Awesome plot twist.
MetalGearRexPilot 2 years ago 3
WHAT A TWIST!
SilverX1079 2 years ago 3
I wonder if any one ever think about this, but basically with Jeremiah by his side Lelouch almost invincible. His Geass weakness is that it had to make eye contact and it can only work one per person. With Jeremiah geass canceler he can just use it then Jeremiah cancel then he can use it again.
tzuki99 2 years ago 6
Like an infinite loop combo? ;)
DarkMysticz 2 years ago
exactly, making a different command each time, it's ingenious! (except that Luluch has the "become my slave" or "do as I order" command)
re619 2 years ago
Orange fucking amazing
Gamerpower 2 years ago 4
You sir, are correct. Jeremiah, Suzaku and Lelouch on one side is almost an unbeatable combo.
Wolblade 2 years ago 3
@Wolblade true. its a pity they didn't have kallen as well.
RGA301092 1 month ago
orange is a badass
disinterested22 2 years ago 7
Is that blood Jeremiah is pouring? It's brown.
DarthFanta 2 years ago
It's oil. He's part machine now.
SimonGrey2 2 years ago 7
yay FOR JEREMIAH!!
ZaraZabuza2 3 years ago
This scene just screams "EPIC"
PYR049 3 years ago 2
Yes,Your Majesty~~
o0ohiro 3 years ago 62
@o0ohiro
yes, my lord.
hihihi022 1 year ago
so how did he become the orenge boy i think i missed that episode
XZANEG10 3 years ago
When lelouch rescued suzaku in the first season, he called jeremiah 'orange-kun' then used geass to force jeremiah to help him, implying that jeremiah was acutally on his side.
Serpentz1 3 years ago
oh ok thanks i did miss that episode then i think it was episode 4 right
XZANEG10 3 years ago
Yeah, episode 4, it was awsome. The purists had a disband because of Jeremiah giving Suzaku away, and later beacuse of Kallen and the Guren Mk.II, he got his brain cells destroid and he also lost one of his eyes....poor guy, he went through alot...
xxLelouchxx67 3 years ago
yeah but at least he wont be killed now thought
XZANEG10 3 years ago
well i think that the brain was not damaged, because he can remeber things, plus his knightmare is controled by his mind. soo.
FPR 2 years ago