It looks like the yellow shirt is tanglangquan to me. The white shirt does kind of look like it could be bajiquan, though it does have a kind of karate flavor, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I don't recall baji using high kicks too often, but I do see something resembling baji in it.
@123456789098782 Martial arts have no national boundaries. Boundaries are only formed in ones own narrow heart. Some people see things as Chinese this, Japanese that, but I see it as Asian. I'm happy non-Chinese learning Chinese martial arts. Just like I am happy to see Chinese learning from the Japanese. People should not limit themselves.
lol......almost every art practiced with the basics, jab, hooks, roundhouse, front snap, aka techniques that you will more than likely use in the real world , will look like kickboxing once training begins at full resistance.
You sir, are retarded. Don't spout mysticism or "real kung fu" bullshit at me. Want to see real kung fu? Watch a sandan or sanshou tournament, or are those competitors not real kung fu artist?
I'm going to have to agree. When I spar at full speed, it essentially becomes kickboxing with takedowns and joint locks. Some practitioners may focus more on intercepting and countering, but you either gotta pull off the takedown/joint lock or back off.
style and pattern is designed for training and practicing which in order to achieve muscle memory, it does not apply to real fighting situation. the guy in yellow T-shirt is just a pure nob...
Despite the fools, this is solid, mid-level sparring. No fancy, pretty crap, just middle of the road work. They're a bit sloppy, but I think their intermediate students at a gym-style school.
its time we start encouraging sparring in cma. if someone isn't doing a form, the video is rated low, why? I don't give a shit what level the sparring is, if their throwing down they should be respected.
u r right, sparring is sparring, these guys are not professional figthers, there is a BIG difference, but at least they are willing to fight, keep it up
これは八極拳ではありません
fltest001 1 day ago
不是聽說八極是中國武術攻擊最兇悍的拳法嗎?
jimmychuang 2 months ago
inugami74 5 months ago 2
@inugami74 正しくその通りだと想います。僕は米軍海兵隊員に喧嘩で勝ったのが自慢の喧嘩屋でしたが、総合格闘技の世界ではプロ2戦目で引退せざるを得なくなりました。喧嘩すらまともにした事も無いのに格闘技を語る人が多いのは遺憾です。
kisha69walker 4 months ago
八極拳なら体当たり技をだしてくれないとな
goldpenta 5 months ago
実戦は単純な打撃や蹴りしか出せない。
猛虎硬爬山や鉄山靠なんて無意味。
数種のパンチ、キックしか無意味なのなら、自然とそれらが洗練している、ムエタイかキックボクシングが立ち技では有利になる。
sibainutarou1 6 months ago
軍隊の体術みてると良く分かるじゃん、互い型を崩しながら闘うのに型なんて大した意味を成さない
どんな方法であれ急所に一撃加えたほうが勝ち
ai00000 6 months ago
これが八極拳?
viamedia 6 months ago
こういった対戦になると、どの武術も特徴がなくなるね。
shuniran 6 months ago
八極是中國拳啦- - 難道有人以為是日本拳嗎= =
不過我對八極的認知只有鐵山靠- -
exp365 7 months ago
还不是现代拳击
Samshenny 8 months ago
It looks like the yellow shirt is tanglangquan to me. The white shirt does kind of look like it could be bajiquan, though it does have a kind of karate flavor, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I don't recall baji using high kicks too often, but I do see something resembling baji in it.
TheHobophobic 8 months ago
@123456789098782 Martial arts have no national boundaries. Boundaries are only formed in ones own narrow heart. Some people see things as Chinese this, Japanese that, but I see it as Asian. I'm happy non-Chinese learning Chinese martial arts. Just like I am happy to see Chinese learning from the Japanese. People should not limit themselves.
kelvinc8 8 months ago
@kelvinc8 Thats why bjj people show only Bjj vs Kung Fu video, but not Bjj vs Capoeira video.
alan513 7 months ago
@alan513 capoeira gay
stets83 7 months ago
吴公仪和陈克夫那场擂台比赛(黑白视频),是一场闹剧。好像两个不懂武功的人,在台上走来走去,互相避开接触。武术要有哲学,修身,武德 ,但乜要有实战能力。有哲学修身武德,没实战能力,只是纸上谈兵。有实战能力,没有武德修身,是没有灵魂的肉体,流於暴力。"武" 是 "止" 和 "弋"两字组合,没有实战能力,又何从止弋?日本和西方注重 "实用"主义,没有实战能力的武功,日本和西方不会信服。那些人说,武术是用来修身,不是用来打架的,只是自欺欺人吧了,乜不用称做武功或武术了(台湾,香港称国术) , 称做体操便是。有一youtube视频,是日本极真空手道对抗 中国的醉拳和蛇形拳?真是丢人,惨不忍睹。中国功夫要赢,不能只用散打或kickboxing,要打出本门功夫胜出,才算真功夫。
azetic 8 months ago 2
In fact, they both look just like boxing...
funlovesjoy 8 months ago
can't see any move specific in 八極拳...
funlovesjoy 8 months ago
キックボクシングと何が違うの???もっと接近して戦う武術じゃないんですか??これだったら空手でもやったほうがいいような気がする・・・すいません
nfnhf148 8 months ago
これ「八極は強い!!」って言いたいの??どちらも中国武術らしさなんて微塵も無いじゃんwフルコンカラテの組み手と変わらないね。
hachimansama11 9 months ago
which guy is the baji user?
zenshinx 10 months ago
@zenshinx according the the description it's the guy in the white shirt and black pants.
Xuanmen9 9 months ago
@Xuanmen9 dude...you do understand i was being scarcastic right?
zenshinx 9 months ago
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@Xuanmen9 dude...you do understand i was being sarcastic right?
zenshinx 9 months ago
有八極拳阿
老蔣的保鑣都有學過八極拳
其中以劉雲樵最有名
poorpolo2002 10 months ago
囧,有八極拳嗎?= =
ERIC60438 10 months ago
中国拳法とか書いてあるから見たけど、ムエタイの練習試合じゃん
nazca091 11 months ago
這不是八極吧.....應該是空手道 小弟練那麼久八極 沒看踢那麼高的腿~八極拳歌訣:出腿不過膝 過膝根立拔~
八極講橫抗勁~內走胯勁 不是只有直拳 要練到周身是拳~還未達到水平前不該練散打~會走樣~會練錯方向
cellarjudge 11 months ago
which one is 八極拳? i only see Karate here
alan513 1 year ago 5
異武道との戦いでは武術自体の良し悪しはまったく関係ないただの喧嘩!
どんな武術にせよ多くの人は頭の中で考えて戦ってる!無の状態で体がとっさに自然に動ける人こそが強い人です。それはどんな武術でも一緒!
MrMusictank 1 year ago 2
開門八極唔算中國功夫之一咩????
樓主不如你自己睇一睇啦
guo19951995 1 year ago
小学生の教室の後ろでやってる喧嘩じゃん
sowdjecs0707 1 year ago
これならキックボクシングやれば良いのに
2112pee 1 year ago
最初の構えがちょっとそれっぽいだけですな
snowbird1962 1 year ago
ただのキックボクシングですね (w
netonetouyouyo 1 year ago
八極拳起源非漢人 是回族拳法
pen50830 1 year ago
@pen50830 中国武术中外来的拳法只有查滑拳,是唐朝时候由国外的援军传入。回族也属于华夏民族的兄弟,以汉字为第一书写的人都属于华夏民族。早年因地域不同而被称作“巴子拳”、“八忌拳”、“八技拳”、“开门八极”、“开拳”等。但近代根据其发劲可达四面八方极远之处的特点,以“八极”二字定名。
起源时间和地点,至今说法不一。一说,起源于明代,因在戚继光著《纪效新书——拳经捷罗篇》中,曾提到“巴子拳”即“八极拳”。二说,源于武当,是道士所创。三说,是清代河南岳山寺和尚张岳山创。四说,是清代一号“癞”的云游道士所创。 请问你那里看来的八极拳是回族所创?
369411078 1 year ago 3
@369411078 還有西藏白鶴拳,也不是中國自己創出的武術(50年代出名的師傅有吳紹鐘,歐永年,陳克夫,陸智夫,倪永堂【他和詠春的黃淳梁講過手,轟動武林】),都不是中國自己的功夫,其中出名的拳有綿里針,出入步。
washingzoo1 1 year ago
@washingzoo1 白鹤拳源自于福建,为南派少林五祖拳:一达尊,二 一达尊,二 太祖,三行者,四罗汉,五白鹤,南少林地处福建。南方西藏白鹤拳我没有听说,如果你说的是陈克夫的藏传白鹤拳我听说过,但是藏传并非指西藏人所创,而是只康定,康定地处于西藏四川两处,但是古时候属于西藏势力,而康定居住民,是藏族与四川的汉人,当地习武者引进密宗思想,所以谓之藏传。当然还有一种说法星洲白鹤派体育会所提供的资料,白鹤武术源自明朝天启年间,距今约400年前,明朝天启年间,西藏深山修练的喇嘛僧阿达陀尊者观察白猿白鹤之争所创后来,另一名喇嘛僧多罗吉坦在阿达陀尊者的原创基础上,优化了白鹤拳。清代咸丰同治年间,白鹤拳流传到广东,白鹤拳名师升隆长老带领四大弟子到肇庆鼎湖山庆云寺宣扬藏传佛教,闲时也教导白鹤拳,名师出高徒,白鹤拳一时风行开来。不过目前大家比较推崇前面的说法,你是学藏传白鹤拳的吗?我有兴趣知道更多啊呵呵
369411078 1 year ago 2
@369411078 難得閣下對西藏白鶴派研究的那麼詳盡,小弟在50年代跟一個師傅學習,他就對我講述你講的第二種的源流的說法;他是跟歐永年學的 他教我基本的出入步拳,綿里針拳(一個師傅叫做倪沃棠的, 他曾在新武俠雑誌[又叫武俠小說王], 登出這套拳的照片)和推手(西藏白鶴派也有推手,不單太極有)。這派的秘訣有:“手去身離,非脈不打”, 是用長橋大馬打鬥的,所以用手去打人之後,就要很快地離開敵人的攻擊,而且儘量要打到敵人的要害,穴道。還有另一個口訣,是“殘閃穿截”, 意思是要殘忍、閃避、穿擊、截擊。手法主要有:扱、拋、鞭、箭、掛、車身、等等。扱,是廣東話,意思是蓋拳,聽說這派又分出白鶴派,和俠家。50年代,轟動一時的香港國術大賽,就是吳家太極派的吳公儀,和西藏白鶴派的陳克夫在澳門打擂臺的。那是香港還沒有傳入福建的白鶴派,所以一般人就叫它為白鶴派,他們自己也這樣叫自己。俠家好像也沒有傳入,後來俠家有出名的師傅:羅威強。我知道的,就是那麼少的。哈哈哈!以武會友,也以文會友!
washingzoo1 1 year ago
@pen50830 好好大熊猫!
T73Palin 1 year ago
八極拳は危険な拳法ですから、散打ではほとんどの技が禁止されてしまうため、八極拳独特の技が出すことができないんですよw
kotarou677 1 year ago
@kotarou677
笑止!八極拳の達人は凄い人がいると思うが、この人は腰高で根本的に稽古が足りないだけでしょう。
だからといって、この人のファイトを悪くいうつもりはさらさらない。
一番の阿呆は、この程度で「八極拳」の代表みたいなタイトルをつける投稿者。
そして、知ったようなコメントをするあなた。
snowbird1962 1 year ago
八极拳是中国武术的一种 支派!! 晕三!
maozhuxiwansui7 1 year ago 2
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chi2shan 1 year ago
@gamchang what are u trying to say here?? are u trying to say 八極拳 is pioneer created in Japan??
jocoven 1 year ago
@jocoven No he said "It looks like there are no 八極拳 moves in the clip"
keikayt 1 year ago
好看,
coollipengjiao 1 year ago
應該係螳螂黎
hin1994130 1 year ago
Baji kickboxing? Both would have been knocked out by a seasoned Muay Thai fighter!
lesterado 1 year ago
尿道
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fuck
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tommy9696tommy9696 2 years ago
提膝我是有看出來...但是也可以說是泰拳的膝頂 臂襠錘的摔法還算勉強...
不過橫打嘛= =....我覺得比較像炮錘 也很像降龍 左手橫的那一下也像盪錘
但是也跟散打的勾拳技擊很像..
t4g05cj3 2 years ago
反正人體結構就長這樣 外觀都差不多...
頂心肘的能夠摔應該是最基本的常識...不訝異 基本上內下外 貼緊就能摔..
或者雙管法 纏足 只要抓到拔根技巧 或搗亂重心的訣竅 淌泥步也是摔人的步法
最後一下摔法 我看還比較像蒙古跤...
這比賽重點不應該放在門派上... 否則就變成固守死法 武術永遠不會進步
t4g05cj3 2 years ago
那你又是什么呢?
sengkean85 2 years ago
八极意为发劲可达四面八方极远之处。其动作朴实简洁,刚猛脆烈,多震脚发劲动作。原流传于河北沧州一带,为地方拳种,创始者为清朝初年的吴钟。清末时,因黄四海、李书文等人而闻名中国。八极拳现在盛行于中国北方及台湾。后传入日本及其他国家,如美国、加拿大等地。
shenju1990 2 years ago
白衣的是八極拳,這位仁兄練得很好,一黏上就不讓人脫身,強!
MGdirector 2 years ago
@MGdirector
拜託,
是散打啦!
那最好是八極拳,
我練過了八極和散打!
裡頭沒一招是八極拳的姿勢!
ggbb200 2 years ago
會這麼說,表示小八沒有練通。裡面至少有小八的提膝、避襠捶。小八除了練打擊,有一種練法叫做摔角架,小八很多動作可打可摔。
MGdirector 2 years ago
拜託!我當然知道啊!可是小八的摔是那樣嗎?你去問你師傅啊!那是散打的摔法啦!哎呀...大概你不知散打吧!散打把武術全部的精華都放進去了,當然你說像哪個就像那個啦!之前還有人說像拳擊呢!但是,我敢肯定這白衣的有練過散打!至於八極拳可能他平時拿來練協調吧!實戰他絕不是照著套路打!不然不是打人了!
ggbb200 2 years ago
你該去問你的老師,要摔連頂心肘都可以摔,避襠捶也可以摔,還可以跟左右蹬加提膝成為組合技,此外他用了很多基本動作,例如說橫打等等。
「套路」不是舞蹈動作,至少八極拳的不是,那是給學的人反覆熟悉一些重要的技術點,那些動作真的用有很多變形,而「散打」,請查國術辭典,指的是國術的擂台競技形式,不是單一技術。
MGdirector 2 years ago
哎呀......
看來是碰上行家啦,
對於八極拳實戰格鬥可說是十分厲害!
希望日後在擂台賽場中看到您精彩表現,
我會去幫忙加油的!yeah!!!
我也想看看八極拳的利害!
別讓那麼厲害的武術埋沒了,
讓人知道上步衝拳打天下的實力,
加油!!!八極加油!!!別讓你的對手喘息!!!加油!!!
加油加油加油!加油加油加油!
ggbb200 2 years ago
有哪只鸟会在上擂台对战时会照着平时练的套路打啊?
sengkean85 2 years ago
所以我才讓他親自證明他說的是真的啊
我可是處心積慮讓八極拳在世界展出
如何和拳擊打
如何和空手道打
如何和泰國拳打
如何和散打打
加油加油
證明給我們看
加油加油
ggbb200 2 years ago
会不会是有人功夫练不到家,耍嘴皮子?
sengkean85 2 years ago
哈哈哈哈
你練散打還是空手道啊
應該知道實戰事證明武術的唯一道路
我希望他們可以證明他們有多強
不然會被人說耍嘴皮不是沒有原因的
ggbb200 2 years ago
武術を知らない奴は無知!!
foreverhnh 2 years ago
ただの喧嘩にしか見えない
wolf0709 2 years ago 2
看吳 哪個人是哪種武功
scar0414 2 years ago
ルールの無い実戦では、相手を傷つけることが勝利である、というルールはありません。
格闘は無駄です。
XMOAIX 2 years ago
根本看不出哪個是八極拳....感覺應該回去把本門武術練扎實出來才不會丟人現眼
a23919763 2 years ago 3
白上衣那個很明顯是八極拳,如果你看不出來別說他不扎實,而是應該說你自己眼睛有問題,沒練過八極有何資格說他丟人現眼
muchiayi 2 years ago 2
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Muya thai is actually tougher than the shaolin monks because they are learn how to take hard sharp hit. It's all for different purpose
PlasticC4 2 years ago
八極拳をそのまま出してしうと相手を一撃で殺してしまう。
36412222 2 years ago
>本来こういった戦い方になるのは必然だ。
ルールがある時点では、それ以外の戦い方は反則ですから、必然なのは確かです。しかし、ルールの無い実戦では、この戦い方は、無駄だらけです。私から言わせれば、金的がガラ空きですので、ルールが無ければ終わりです。
reimeinosora 2 years ago
>中国武術や空手等それぞれ体の使い方や感覚がちがうだけ で
感覚だけではありません、戦闘理論も違います。
reimeinosora 2 years ago
i think i heard korean
adamchan9 2 years ago
結局、ルールに適した戦い方になってしまうから、武術として学んだ技術は、試合ではほとんど活かせない。
K-1でも、ムエタイやキックや空手が出ても、ルールに適した戦い方、K-1スタイルになってしまう。
reimeinosora 2 years ago 2
像散打= =???
tonewlife31 2 years ago
that is why people said mury thai is better than chinese kung fu!!!!! they act like the children!1
smonkey888 2 years ago
不像螳螂拳 也不像八極
0:03-->0:07 這一段就很奇怪了
黃的用螳螂拳手法 但是之後根本沒有表現出""轉腰活胯""的螳螂拳特色
我懷疑這是日本人模仿得不像...
davidoff2005 2 years ago
....白衫人胸口無防衛,黃衫的人明明有很多機會出手,
siusiu403 2 years ago
i cant see element of baji in there
Sashi98 2 years ago
これが八極拳なの?
sumeshi3 2 years ago
八极拳是中国的一种拳法,属于中国武术的一部分。
LuoShanJingSou 2 years ago 20
that guy looks more like a drunk than fighting.... useless
VinZNT 2 years ago
どっちもよわい
goodgood001 2 years ago 2
請教一下,大纏是在那一邊使出來的?
我看不太出來
snoopyintw 2 years ago
真的是非常強力的比賽影片
在電腦螢幕面前的我渾身震撼不已
被武者強大的氣震懾地幾乎要連字都打不出來
實在是博大精深
smallkiss 3 years ago
You're right. Also, he moves a lot less than the opponent because of the mechanics.
Scalier 3 years ago
掴んで崩すとか回り込む動きがないと
八極も空手も区別が付かないね
acesces 3 years ago 3
どんな格闘技でも異種格闘戦やらせたら必ずキックボクシングスタイルになっちゃう。ということはキックボクシングはやはり実戦を目指すなら一番とちゃうか?それに総合やれば鬼に金棒チック
slipknotyyy 3 years ago 6
言えてる
誰が何やってもたいがいそうなる
00onigo00 2 years ago
Enough of the kick boxing already....Show me some real kung fu!!!!
timoxe 3 years ago
lol......almost every art practiced with the basics, jab, hooks, roundhouse, front snap, aka techniques that you will more than likely use in the real world , will look like kickboxing once training begins at full resistance.
AkhilleusWeeps 2 years ago
Thats because you have never seen real Kung Fu being used for sparring or to Fight....
timoxe 2 years ago
You sir, are retarded. Don't spout mysticism or "real kung fu" bullshit at me. Want to see real kung fu? Watch a sandan or sanshou tournament, or are those competitors not real kung fu artist?
AkhilleusWeeps 2 years ago 2
I'm going to have to agree. When I spar at full speed, it essentially becomes kickboxing with takedowns and joint locks. Some practitioners may focus more on intercepting and countering, but you either gotta pull off the takedown/joint lock or back off.
jeffdoeskungfu 2 years ago
Yes it becomes like kickboxing. However what separates a style from another is HOW the body is controlled.
Scalier 2 years ago
look stupid fight
SiuWang168 3 years ago
which one is 八極?clother position fight
is much better worked
watoi 3 years ago
没吃饭的结果
lemin2008 3 years ago
Hahaha!
(Translation: This is what happens when you fight on an empty stomach. :)
eastpaw 3 years ago
看起來像是螳螂拳
aabbcc81502 3 years ago
WTF???? thats kun-fu...what type of Kun fu is that?
YingXingDeChiBang 3 years ago
两人使的都是王八拳。
huanianyi 3 years ago 5
so many japs
internet740 3 years ago
拳法なめんなよ~これ空手じゃねーか
八極に限らず中心線保護する構えをするもんだ
hinataiori 3 years ago
Baiji is still Chinese Kongfu...stupid
LLdaye 3 years ago
fight without helmets pussy
ahoahomangreat 3 years ago
style and pattern is designed for training and practicing which in order to achieve muscle memory, it does not apply to real fighting situation. the guy in yellow T-shirt is just a pure nob...
kaiwan2981 3 years ago
Ba Ji is chinese martial art too...
Seanpiano 3 years ago
yellow sucks.
KamedaFamily 4 years ago
can't identify who is using Baiji
both are shit
kelvin198837 4 years ago
Despite the fools, this is solid, mid-level sparring. No fancy, pretty crap, just middle of the road work. They're a bit sloppy, but I think their intermediate students at a gym-style school.
kittenclaws 4 years ago
WTF is with the low rating? this is good stuff. refreshing. Keep it up.
9thExtreme 4 years ago
its time we start encouraging sparring in cma. if someone isn't doing a form, the video is rated low, why? I don't give a shit what level the sparring is, if their throwing down they should be respected.
9thExtreme 4 years ago
u r right, sparring is sparring, these guys are not professional figthers, there is a BIG difference, but at least they are willing to fight, keep it up
Tianshanwarrior 4 years ago
not worth watching.
ashwix 4 years ago
i agree~they both suck~ and i can't see what kind of martial art they are using...
maokeke 4 years ago
↓What kind du you like?
doronosuke 4 years ago
they both sucks like a checken.
chrisboxing 4 years ago