@fatboy22222222222222 a idoit, there is ghood and bad in everyone, balck, white, yellow, brown and pink, so before you mouth off, u need to take the log out of your own eye before you pass judgement...
You want me to take responsibility for the 'problems my ancestors caused' so your answer to that is... what? Here have my money (i got none) Have my car (cost me 2000) This has been addressed again and again and again.... the apology was outstanding. Did you even see it? I got it in a scrap book to keep and hand down. What did it change? NOT a thing... nothing. Have you been to Ulluroo? and no, I didn't climb it. Like it or not whites are just as australian as you are. Noth good and bad.
the pronblems are still here because of people like you, ignorent and stupid as always, lay the blame back at aboriginal people when your people brought the problems here, and for culture it is still alive, just because you cant see it, it means we won't show it 2 racist pigs like you, and wat about justice? oh wats that? well if you cared it's righting the wrongs that are still happening, but then you wouldn't know, cause your apart of the problem not the solution..
@dazzadidja I'm not racist but it's not my fault that ages ago someone people came to Australia and brought booze and took their children but we are living in the present and people make their decisions on what they have now. So why should we just turn the cheek when they are getting drunk all the time and stealing heaps of shit???
listen to what you are saying YOUR ancestors, caused the problems, ok genius, who started the all the trouble in australia? umm YOUR ancestors, umm who brought the drugs? the grog? the viruses? the racisim? umm YOUR ancestors.. good one genius, your a real peice of work, a work of racist crap..
@blusol2 , yeah but the prblems came from your race, who brang drugs, disease, alcohol and injustice here? the white race, and you reap the benefits of the injustice and say, what have we done wrong, your living off the profits of your race doing all the evil actions and will not seek justice,l but just blame aboriginals for the problems that you have causaed and continue to cause...
@dazzadidja okay lets agree that history was a nasty place ..... the question becomes , "what are we going to do to make the world a better place for ourselves and for others ?" It will keep coming back to that question everytime i promise you , because global society has irriversibly moved towards "brother" and "sister" hood and the "your distance ancestor did this" argument simply does not hold when thinking "practically" and "pragmaticly"... history is filled with horror - move on .
@dalolman i have and we do everyday, u know wat, u need to tell the muslims and jews too take a leaf out of our book and the indian haters down in Vic, aboriginal's have moved past blowing up things and ppl, and all we ask for justice and equal rights, now that isn't too much to ask for is it????
@dazzadidja see thats what im talking about, now im not trying to put u on the spot but consider this: Firstly, in your response u flipped the emphasis on other social groups where in fact they dont factor into this debate at all. Secondly, ur request for justice and equal rights is clearly based on ur belief that u dont already have them - which is simply incorrect. I see prejudice in my area every day, but its because the subjects usually do drugs and crime and never ever work or study. PT1
@dazzadidja if a mob of 16 year old Aboriginal kids goes and robs a person on the street then goes buy drugs alcohol and booze and then go start fights in the city, HOW TEH FUCK IS IT THE FAULT OF HISTORY?! Do us all a favour and WAKE THE FUCK UP!! You want to save ur people? Then TEACH THEM RESPONSIBILITY!! "Oh i robbed the shop bcoz of the "white" people" , "oh i do drugs bcoz of the "white" people" , "I never learn academically or technicallÿ, bcoz of the "white" people" .. blame game much?
@dalolman , so wen the white race comes and kils and destroys, rite up until this day,well remeber this is Aboriginal land, no treaties have been signed, so where is the justice u moron?? where, what about getting off our land and go back where it is the crap you all come from, if u don't like australia then leave it and go back you boat person...
@dazzadidja ok how crazy do u sound right now. THINK ABOUT IT. You want 20 million people (most of which were either born here or flew here by airplane) to leave and take roads, hospitals, houses, cars, etc with them? Or, do u propose a civil war whereby the aboriginal communities band together and proclaim war on the majority of Aust. population? Which is it? GET REAL FFS. STOP TALKING SHIT.... And im Australian by the way (not a colonialist). So are you (Australian), so again wtf u on about .
@dalolman , there has already been a war in australia it went fro 120 years but now its a mental war against idiotsd like u, it would be nice, since they send the baopst ppl bakc why don' u join them..i'm on about justice FRO THE FIRST AUSTRALIANS U MORON...
@dazzadidja PT2. Just because they happen to be Aboriginal is a coincidence - they get treated just like any other criminal or junkie from another ethnicity. Which brings me back to my initial point: If someone gets caught for something they did wrong , then they shouldn't try to blame society, or history, or whatever - they should take it like a man, and be responsible for their own actions just like all of us are (there is ur equality).
@dalolman , say what you are saying is this, if you do the wrong thing take the blame, ok then well if the "white" race caused all the problems , drugs, alcohol, homlessness, mass murder and genocide, shouldn't they fix the problems that they have brought here, and it hasn't stopped the problems, they are getting worse, all because ppl like you want to pass the buck and say it happened in tha past but what if the past is still here in the present... think about it..
@dazzadidja ok agreed that crimes should be punishable. Historical figures cannot be punished by modern judicial systems (because they have been dead a very long time) , so instead it is history that punishes them forever tarnishing their names and deads. As for modern history, domestic as well as international justice systems (eg ICC) work diligintly to provide justice - therefore all in Aust. have eqaul rights... but crime, alcohol, cigarettes, drugs? DONT DO THEM !! its ur choice not mine.
And people were burnt at the stake for witchcraft. It was over 200 years ago, not only did this era have nothign to do with it and I personnally do not know if 'my ancestors' took your land,, and neither do you. What do you want? It didn't happen to you. Do you live on the land? Knife wound to the heart.. what do you want? It didn't happen to you. It was awful, terrible. My girls recently did rabbit proof fence at school and were in tears themselves, they also felt for the holocaust survivors.
All people need support and understanding its got nothing to do with the colour of your skin. All you people with your racist comments 'aboriginals are lazy blah blah' Are you for real? Theres a whole fragment of Aboriginal people who feel disenfranchised and misunderstood and lets face it wouldnt you? I bet you people saying 'go get a job' are rich house wives from Mossman, it's very fucking easy to make suggestions from where your sitting.
do you think it was fair when Aboriginal people were pushed out in the outskirts of townships because they were Aboriginal, and neglected? Now that Rudd has has made the final ammendment to close the gap, then we should work hard to close the gap...Not be lazy with negative thoughts and think the worse all the time and that cuts both ways kandrewk.
get off the pension find a job. stop looking for a handout off the goverment. your language is discusting.winge winge winge redfern is a shit hole just look around.why dont you go home and cleen up tour house.and then clean up the street and when you do that cleen your self up. learn to ger off your ass and then you will feelbetter about yourself.
it sounds like your down on your luck but don't point the finger at us when shit goes wrong for you we've had it alot harder then you and your prowhite supporters
How much rent do the people living in the block pay? I earn the minimum wage, try to hold on to 2 casual job (38+ hours a week), go to uni (14 hours a week + assignments) and look after my pregnant girlfriend and pay taxes. The only govt benefit we will get is the baby bonus, which might just cover the cost of a pram, doctors bills and a cot. But still so many people, who live in housing commission don't work and want something for nothing, it doesn't seem fair to me.
i totally agree with what you say...i have worked hard all my life, paying a mortgage, have a family responsibility, study, pay my taxes, medical bills and others...etc these guys live and get support of the government and have the odacity to winge winge winge and still want more...
you have got it so wrong so wrong, we get the same as white ppl but less, so why not just give OUR LAND BACK? cause most of you are all greedy mongrel dogs
I am all for equality. You are calling whites greedy mongrel dogs> Nice. What if 'we' said that about aboriginals? I don't get free schooling, uniforms, excursions for my kids. I don't get extra money or a free house. Yep, I'm all for equality. Get over it. It was 200yrs ago. You don't hear the american indians whinging.. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves. THATS Equality my friend. GEt on with. There are people that are building bridges. We are all in this together. Like it or not.
um neither do aboriginal people, stop spreading propganda and get the real facts, we all get the same.. but we do get special treament, like, early death, poor health, marginlised, pushed off our tribal lands, highest suicied rate, high diabetes rates, high infant mortality, racist veiws everyday, injustice, poorer education, ripped off by art dealers, and lack of respect for our ancient culture, like the didjeridoo and stolen away from our families, highest gaol % yeah real special treatment
No.... You don't. The govt thinks handouts are the way to go, I think it is bad for such a proud race. I have met aboriginals who are very rascist. And I have met some awesome people who taught me about their culture and beliefs which I am very grateful for. I feel a deeper affinity with Australia thanks to them. I just don't see why I, or any other white should accept racism. Stop blaming,
no-1 is blaming just speaking the truth, there are good whites and blacks, and bad whites and bad blacks, but in order to face the future we must address the past, that is a known truth for all people, and if you are going to fix a problem we must start at the beginning not the end, it's like putting a band aid on a knife wound to the heart or just passing the buck which you do nicley!!! take responsability for the problems your ancestors have caused and still cause...
(cont)... start at the beginning.. what? 200 years ago? you want me to be punished and suffer and aboriginals feel justified in hating me because of something that has nothing to do with most of you.(as in... many aboriginals are not in touch or pursuing any sort of traditional life. I have met aboriginals that have no connection with the land or knowlwedge of their own heritage and that..is THEIR CHOICE.
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jamiespinks 1 year ago
@fatboy22222222222222 a idoit, there is ghood and bad in everyone, balck, white, yellow, brown and pink, so before you mouth off, u need to take the log out of your own eye before you pass judgement...
dazzadidja 1 year ago
Bull shit, government gives aboriginals heaps of money and shit.
Warrensredbarred 1 year ago
You want me to take responsibility for the 'problems my ancestors caused' so your answer to that is... what? Here have my money (i got none) Have my car (cost me 2000) This has been addressed again and again and again.... the apology was outstanding. Did you even see it? I got it in a scrap book to keep and hand down. What did it change? NOT a thing... nothing. Have you been to Ulluroo? and no, I didn't climb it. Like it or not whites are just as australian as you are. Noth good and bad.
blusol2 2 years ago
the pronblems are still here because of people like you, ignorent and stupid as always, lay the blame back at aboriginal people when your people brought the problems here, and for culture it is still alive, just because you cant see it, it means we won't show it 2 racist pigs like you, and wat about justice? oh wats that? well if you cared it's righting the wrongs that are still happening, but then you wouldn't know, cause your apart of the problem not the solution..
dazzadidja 2 years ago
@dazzadidja I'm not racist but it's not my fault that ages ago someone people came to Australia and brought booze and took their children but we are living in the present and people make their decisions on what they have now. So why should we just turn the cheek when they are getting drunk all the time and stealing heaps of shit???
Warrensredbarred 1 year ago
listen to what you are saying YOUR ancestors, caused the problems, ok genius, who started the all the trouble in australia? umm YOUR ancestors, umm who brought the drugs? the grog? the viruses? the racisim? umm YOUR ancestors.. good one genius, your a real peice of work, a work of racist crap..
dazzadidja 2 years ago
@blusol2 , yeah but the prblems came from your race, who brang drugs, disease, alcohol and injustice here? the white race, and you reap the benefits of the injustice and say, what have we done wrong, your living off the profits of your race doing all the evil actions and will not seek justice,l but just blame aboriginals for the problems that you have causaed and continue to cause...
dazzadidja 1 year ago
@dazzadidja okay lets agree that history was a nasty place ..... the question becomes , "what are we going to do to make the world a better place for ourselves and for others ?" It will keep coming back to that question everytime i promise you , because global society has irriversibly moved towards "brother" and "sister" hood and the "your distance ancestor did this" argument simply does not hold when thinking "practically" and "pragmaticly"... history is filled with horror - move on .
dalolman 1 year ago
@dalolman i have and we do everyday, u know wat, u need to tell the muslims and jews too take a leaf out of our book and the indian haters down in Vic, aboriginal's have moved past blowing up things and ppl, and all we ask for justice and equal rights, now that isn't too much to ask for is it????
dazzadidja 1 year ago
@dazzadidja see thats what im talking about, now im not trying to put u on the spot but consider this: Firstly, in your response u flipped the emphasis on other social groups where in fact they dont factor into this debate at all. Secondly, ur request for justice and equal rights is clearly based on ur belief that u dont already have them - which is simply incorrect. I see prejudice in my area every day, but its because the subjects usually do drugs and crime and never ever work or study. PT1
dalolman 1 year ago
@dazzadidja if a mob of 16 year old Aboriginal kids goes and robs a person on the street then goes buy drugs alcohol and booze and then go start fights in the city, HOW TEH FUCK IS IT THE FAULT OF HISTORY?! Do us all a favour and WAKE THE FUCK UP!! You want to save ur people? Then TEACH THEM RESPONSIBILITY!! "Oh i robbed the shop bcoz of the "white" people" , "oh i do drugs bcoz of the "white" people" , "I never learn academically or technicallÿ, bcoz of the "white" people" .. blame game much?
dalolman 1 year ago
@dalolman , so wen the white race comes and kils and destroys, rite up until this day,well remeber this is Aboriginal land, no treaties have been signed, so where is the justice u moron?? where, what about getting off our land and go back where it is the crap you all come from, if u don't like australia then leave it and go back you boat person...
dazzadidja 1 year ago
@dazzadidja ok how crazy do u sound right now. THINK ABOUT IT. You want 20 million people (most of which were either born here or flew here by airplane) to leave and take roads, hospitals, houses, cars, etc with them? Or, do u propose a civil war whereby the aboriginal communities band together and proclaim war on the majority of Aust. population? Which is it? GET REAL FFS. STOP TALKING SHIT.... And im Australian by the way (not a colonialist). So are you (Australian), so again wtf u on about .
dalolman 1 year ago
@dalolman , there has already been a war in australia it went fro 120 years but now its a mental war against idiotsd like u, it would be nice, since they send the baopst ppl bakc why don' u join them..i'm on about justice FRO THE FIRST AUSTRALIANS U MORON...
dazzadidja 1 year ago
@dazzadidja PT2. Just because they happen to be Aboriginal is a coincidence - they get treated just like any other criminal or junkie from another ethnicity. Which brings me back to my initial point: If someone gets caught for something they did wrong , then they shouldn't try to blame society, or history, or whatever - they should take it like a man, and be responsible for their own actions just like all of us are (there is ur equality).
dalolman 1 year ago
@dalolman , say what you are saying is this, if you do the wrong thing take the blame, ok then well if the "white" race caused all the problems , drugs, alcohol, homlessness, mass murder and genocide, shouldn't they fix the problems that they have brought here, and it hasn't stopped the problems, they are getting worse, all because ppl like you want to pass the buck and say it happened in tha past but what if the past is still here in the present... think about it..
dazzadidja 1 year ago
@dazzadidja ok agreed that crimes should be punishable. Historical figures cannot be punished by modern judicial systems (because they have been dead a very long time) , so instead it is history that punishes them forever tarnishing their names and deads. As for modern history, domestic as well as international justice systems (eg ICC) work diligintly to provide justice - therefore all in Aust. have eqaul rights... but crime, alcohol, cigarettes, drugs? DONT DO THEM !! its ur choice not mine.
dalolman 1 year ago
And people were burnt at the stake for witchcraft. It was over 200 years ago, not only did this era have nothign to do with it and I personnally do not know if 'my ancestors' took your land,, and neither do you. What do you want? It didn't happen to you. Do you live on the land? Knife wound to the heart.. what do you want? It didn't happen to you. It was awful, terrible. My girls recently did rabbit proof fence at school and were in tears themselves, they also felt for the holocaust survivors.
blusol2 2 years ago
Theres good and bad people; white or black.
All people need support and understanding its got nothing to do with the colour of your skin. All you people with your racist comments 'aboriginals are lazy blah blah' Are you for real? Theres a whole fragment of Aboriginal people who feel disenfranchised and misunderstood and lets face it wouldnt you? I bet you people saying 'go get a job' are rich house wives from Mossman, it's very fucking easy to make suggestions from where your sitting.
jtyoss 2 years ago
do you think it was fair when Aboriginal people were pushed out in the outskirts of townships because they were Aboriginal, and neglected? Now that Rudd has has made the final ammendment to close the gap, then we should work hard to close the gap...Not be lazy with negative thoughts and think the worse all the time and that cuts both ways kandrewk.
kamilaroi0kid 3 years ago
I love my ppl!!!
jazabeil 4 years ago
get off the pension find a job. stop looking for a handout off the goverment. your language is discusting.winge winge winge redfern is a shit hole just look around.why dont you go home and cleen up tour house.and then clean up the street and when you do that cleen your self up. learn to ger off your ass and then you will feelbetter about yourself.
bonneymae 4 years ago
and while your at it give our land back...
dazzadidja 2 years ago
typical gin
shaneusername 4 years ago
Aunty Jenny :-)
Garoco75 4 years ago
Is Jenny really your Aunty?
vietdan 4 years ago
it sounds like your down on your luck but don't point the finger at us when shit goes wrong for you we've had it alot harder then you and your prowhite supporters
sistagirl87 4 years ago
How much rent do the people living in the block pay? I earn the minimum wage, try to hold on to 2 casual job (38+ hours a week), go to uni (14 hours a week + assignments) and look after my pregnant girlfriend and pay taxes. The only govt benefit we will get is the baby bonus, which might just cover the cost of a pram, doctors bills and a cot. But still so many people, who live in housing commission don't work and want something for nothing, it doesn't seem fair to me.
kandrewk 5 years ago
i totally agree with what you say...i have worked hard all my life, paying a mortgage, have a family responsibility, study, pay my taxes, medical bills and others...etc these guys live and get support of the government and have the odacity to winge winge winge and still want more...
Ecka0007 3 years ago
you have got it so wrong so wrong, we get the same as white ppl but less, so why not just give OUR LAND BACK? cause most of you are all greedy mongrel dogs
dazzadidja 2 years ago
I am all for equality. You are calling whites greedy mongrel dogs> Nice. What if 'we' said that about aboriginals? I don't get free schooling, uniforms, excursions for my kids. I don't get extra money or a free house. Yep, I'm all for equality. Get over it. It was 200yrs ago. You don't hear the american indians whinging.. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves. THATS Equality my friend. GEt on with. There are people that are building bridges. We are all in this together. Like it or not.
blusol2 2 years ago
um neither do aboriginal people, stop spreading propganda and get the real facts, we all get the same.. but we do get special treament, like, early death, poor health, marginlised, pushed off our tribal lands, highest suicied rate, high diabetes rates, high infant mortality, racist veiws everyday, injustice, poorer education, ripped off by art dealers, and lack of respect for our ancient culture, like the didjeridoo and stolen away from our families, highest gaol % yeah real special treatment
dazzadidja 2 years ago
we get the same as white ppl, what u say is a stereo typical statement...
dazzadidja 2 years ago
No.... You don't. The govt thinks handouts are the way to go, I think it is bad for such a proud race. I have met aboriginals who are very rascist. And I have met some awesome people who taught me about their culture and beliefs which I am very grateful for. I feel a deeper affinity with Australia thanks to them. I just don't see why I, or any other white should accept racism. Stop blaming,
blusol2 2 years ago
no-1 is blaming just speaking the truth, there are good whites and blacks, and bad whites and bad blacks, but in order to face the future we must address the past, that is a known truth for all people, and if you are going to fix a problem we must start at the beginning not the end, it's like putting a band aid on a knife wound to the heart or just passing the buck which you do nicley!!! take responsability for the problems your ancestors have caused and still cause...
dazzadidja 2 years ago
(cont)... start at the beginning.. what? 200 years ago? you want me to be punished and suffer and aboriginals feel justified in hating me because of something that has nothing to do with most of you.(as in... many aboriginals are not in touch or pursuing any sort of traditional life. I have met aboriginals that have no connection with the land or knowlwedge of their own heritage and that..is THEIR CHOICE.
blusol2 2 years ago