Non-Space, Is Gravity being Induced? A Challenge to Plasma & Neutrino Physicists

[shellybirdy]

really informative and interesting

[osclarkos]

This is a great video

[jjclassjj]

some really good stuff here

[msjessypp]

very interesting video thanks

[alexasmithy]

some great inforamtion here thanks

[StewPidGit]

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[sgfellow]

@SASNIGHTCRAWLER I appear to be loosing the crux of your line of thought through no fault of either of us - the problem with this YouTube 'message' system, is that it is too disjointed to produce a coherent line of thought. Perhaps we could start a train of discussion on Bautforum?

[sgfellow]

@SASNIGHTCRAWLER I suppose you're correct. When it boils down to it, it's all chicken and egg stuff.

[jqs1943]

@SASNIGHTCRAWLER I don't believe in the energy levels of the electrons. What is considered to be an electron cloud is merely the EMER'S FIELD of the weave of energies that makes up the atom. Nature shows us and we're blind; It speaks to us and we can't hears its words of wisdoom. WHAT CAME FIRST, THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG? Nature shows us yet we don't see it....

[jqs1943]

@SASNIGHTCRAWLER String theory is fairly new to me, but by what i've read on it or watched in the internet, it's another missleading abstract from an imaginary plane that will only serve to obstaculate the developmental progress of being able to design and develop new lattice of matter. The universe is saturated by the THETA WAVES of the universe which represent all of the knowledge that there is about the inception of matter, the endless evolution of the species, and the X-GRAVITY FIELD FACTOR.

[jqs1943]

@SASNIGHTCRAWLER Families of frequencies and communities of families of frequencies are responbsible for the inception and evolution of intrinsic lattices of matter. The arrays of frequencies vary in values and produce individual harmonics, thus as the weave occurs within a cycle of evolution, those having a longer wave length are cut off prematurely creating an electromagnetic field arround the atom that serves to weave other energies and form molecules. This field i've named the EMER'S field.

[jqs1943]

@SASNIGHTCRAWLER First of all let me congratulate for you wizdoom. I persdonally don't believe in the current atomic theory and all the added subatomic particle that adorn this fallaceous theory. The atom is a very simple weave of energies that can be synthetized but as long as scientists continue to pursue all the misconstrued subatomic particles of the atom, they will never succeed in doing so. According to my calculations the atom meassures an average of 3 billionths of one inch in diameter.

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@SASNIGHTCRAWLER Hi, thanks for checking back. Although I've had some interesting interactions within the science community, I've not had any luck convincing anyone to contemplate professional suicide yet :-) The interferometer/plasma discharge experiment has, as far as I know still not been attempted. I sometimes think this sort of an experiment will end up taking place in someone's garage.

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@StephenPGoodfellow ...Also, note I never use the word 'hollow' when describing the solar interior. 'Hollow' is defined as 'a space with nothing in it'. An Absolute Vacuum is 'a volume with no space in it'.

[1800levso]

We know that Gravity is being created by the center of our planet, and all other planets too, if it is being created, that means it's energy, how it is created?? we have to understand what is in the center or core of our planet.

[jqs1943]

@1800levso A gravitational force field is represented in nature by an array of frequencies having an specific resonance or harmonic that is related to gravity.The core of planets is made up of gigantic spherical magnets that were developed by the THETA WAVES of the universe.The theta waves are a conglomerate of frequencies that associate themselves in the form of arrays, or families of frequencies which represent all of the creative iuntelligence of the universe. All natural energies are arrays.

[1liveandlearn11]

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[1liveandlearn11]

yup, gravity is directly related to electrons.

[jqs1943]

It's so sad to see so many bright people heading towards scientific doom as they are being misguided by elaborate theories that fail to prove the basic facts about nature's creative powers. Gravity is a very simple subject to explain and so is the atom, yet some bright geneuses say that atoms are made of protons, neutrons, electrons, neutrinos, positrons, quarks, byrons, meson, pions, kaons,leptons,and gluons. Nonsensce! Want to know about the simplicity of the atom, gravity, the helical orbit?

[OtagoMark]

Sunspots are darker because they're cooler, not because of some other wacky explaination...

[01Sheldon]

I think you might be right about plasma because every one knows the sun is high in plasma and it bends space. !

[StephenPGoodfellow]

Update: I found the closest match to a researcher capable of determining if a high-energy plasma can induce gravity. Dr. Niansheng Qi who works for the L-3 Company is concentrating on plasma densities and not looking for a gravitational induction effect, perhaps his tools might be capable of discerning it. I asked him if the data revealed any laser disturbance outside the plasma sheath, to which he replied in the negative, which of course was a great disappointment to me. I'll keep looking

[TheWillwillwill]

Stephen, It seems that your resoning is in line with the plasma cosmology model. It is rather ridiculous that the electrical nature of the universe was left out of our fundamental theories of matter.. I would suggest that this line of thinking leads dirrectly into the world of the esoteric, thus the reason the current models seem ridiculous is that they are purpoeful fabrications.

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@TheWillwillwill I am glad that Dark Matter and Dark Energy have forced their way into the field of cosmology, because it allows the mainstream to consider the concept of gravity through new eyes, rather than in the straight-jacket of a universe where gravity cannot be induced without a corresponding quantity of mass. Perhaps this new approach will yield fruit for the cosmologists?

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@SASNIGHTCRAWLER Uh - good reasoning. I dunno myself - I'll have to read a book :-)

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@SASNIGHTCRAWLER Hi, read your posts. Good line of reasoning, better than anything I've ever managed.

Presently, I'm engrossed in trying to get the plasma and laser optics departments at my local university to get together and try said experiment. It's a long shot, but worth a try. I'll keep you posted. SG

[nfexp]

black holes are a myth...why they keep talking about that nonsense?

[1800levso]

we have solid, liquid, gas, plasma, how about gravity, is this another state of matter? because light can go through solid windows, but gravity can go through anything, you could be in a 2mile wide steel cage and and still you would be in the influence of gravity. wo what is gravity, is not gas, not liquid , no solid, no plasma, what it is and how is affecting our molecules? is there anything else besides gravity that could go through 2mile wide steel cage?

[BobbyLBlack]

So whats your next step now?

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@BobbyLBlack I'm doing some inquiries to see if the laboratory experiment can be performed. I ought to know something further by late summer.

[BobbyLBlack]

So whats the next step for you now?

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@BobbyLBlack "Indeed the Sun does have a core." I finally got my hands on a Scientific American, and this is what it says, "...the experiment that made it has a resolution of 26 deg. whereas the Sun is 0.5..." What follows is a confusing statement about the image, giving the impression that the outer circle is the 0.5 rather than the 26 degrees. At the moment, it's like looking at a blurry out-of-focus star, but it is my opinion that technology will improve and we shall see the structure.

[BobbyLBlack]

haha that explains why you weren't finding it,

my apologies

[BobbyLBlack]

There's only one issue per month

Anyways, the magazine is titled 'Stem Cell's' and the article is titled 'Through Neutrino Eye's'

Cheers

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@BobbyLBlack Not American Scientist - Scientific American. I shall purchase a copy today and get back to you.

[BobbyLBlack]

May 2010 Issue

Page 38-41

You can't miss it

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@BobbyLBlack Does the article have a title - so I can find it online?

[BobbyLBlack]

Sure, you can read about it in the newest issue of American Scientist.

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@BobbyLBlack Are you referring to the May June issue? "Revealing the True Solar Corona Imaging may have inadvertently led astrophysicists astray in understanding the Sun"? - I can't anything about neutrino core here. Are you referring to something else? Could you give me the specific title of the article?

[BobbyLBlack]

This may also confirm that Sunspots are caused by intense magnetic activity. If this was the case, the Sunspots would not appear in any of the captured images. Neutrinos do not interact Electric or Magnetic forces.

[BobbyLBlack]

The Sun has been observed  from virtually every wavelength of light. Recently though, we have been able to observe the Sun using neutrino's (you got your wish). This is a milestone of course because, for the first time ever, It's core has been exposed whereas light only shows the surface.

Indeed the Sun does have a core.

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@BobbyLBlack "...for the first time ever, It's core has been exposed..." Can you refer me to a source? I've been waiting for this info for quite some time.

[bicnarok]

@StephenPGoodfellow Could be interesting, from what I know the Sun only emits 1/3 of neurtino´s and even if they are found in the core does it mean the core is a gasious core in the classical sense, or can some quantum effect cause the release of neutrinos?

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@BobbyLBlack says, "Indeed the Sun does have a core." I finally got my hands on a Scientific American, and this is what it says, "...the experiment that made it has a resolution of 26 deg. whereas the Sun is 0.5..." What follows is a confusing statement about the image, giving the impression that the outer circle is the 0.5 rather than the 26 degrees. At the moment, it's like looking at a blurry out-of-focus star, but it is my opinion that technology will improve and we shall see the structure.

[bicnarok]

interesting. but if the intense pressure pushing down on the non space is so strong, then why do sunspots exist at all, surely you can't have holes in a pressurise shell.

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@bicnarok Good question! I'm assuming that the unified plasma shell sustains the underlying magnetic bottle despite the hole. It's interesting to watch the flow of the photosphere in the penumbra being continually 'washed away' from the center. I have no insights as to what is going on with sunspots, but will be sure to comment if I have any insights...

[bicnarok]

maybe the sunspots are pressure valves of some sort, that the inner non space has properties which need such valves to maintain the balance of pressure.

[StephenPGoodfellow]

@bicnarok All I can do is speculate. I am assuming that the internal magnetic 'bottle' is relatively unaffected wherever the imploding shell is temporarily missing, other than shooting out strong loops? In other words, the interplay between the repulsing internal non-space and the gravitationally imploding space are not necessarily dependent on the 'insulation' of the shell's mass being ever-present. Perhaps there is a critical tipping point that may make it unstable, resulting in a Nova?

[PsionNinja]

Perhaps there might be a way to improve upon the z-pinches slight gravitational effect by somehow coiling the plasma field with electromagnetic containment.

Has this ever been tried before?

[StephenPGoodfellow]

Hi PsionNinja, Good question. I don't know. Most, possibly all containment attempts have not met with much success. I have been wondering in the past few years if we have been tackling the problem the wrong way. I wonder it the plasma event can be 'guided' rather than contained? Remember, the heated plasma produces it's own magnetic field. What if we were to leave it alone - or help it along - and see what it does? After all, no one has managed to replicate ball lightning, so worth a try?

[PsionNinja]

How about guiding the plasma like in a neon spiral of thickened glass? Instead of using AC current, use pulsating DC current to create a steady rate of minor z pinches to continually affect the gravity measuring device?

[StephenPGoodfellow]

Interesting! I'm contacting you via your Youtube site. I'll leave my email address.

[Holetel5]

The first Huygens "Empty Sun" theory precedes Mr. Goodfellow's theory by 400 years. Kirkwood had published advanced mathematical aspects of the "Space (ether) flow into sink" theory in mainstream journals in 1939. There are a lot of Empty Sun-like theories in Internet.

[StephenPGoodfellow]

First Mr. Leshan accuses me of plagiarizing his work. When I prove to the satisfaction of the moderators that my paper was written and circulated sixteen years before his, he changes his approach by offering up work by individuals decades and centuries before solar neutrino data was collected, or before high energy plasmas were even remotely understood. What has this to do with the predictions in this video? Perhaps Mr. Leshan wishes to avoid referencing me in his future papers? Sour grapes!

[Holetel5]

Goodfellow's theory plagiarizes the Huygens (1669) theory of gravitation by that bodies must consist mostly of 'Empty Space' (or Non-space) so that the aether can penetrate the bodies easily, which is necessary for mass proportionality. According to Huygens the Sun is empty. Space flow into Empty Sun, it is a cause of gravitation. Yarkovsky in 1888 argued that the absorbed by bodies aether might be converted into new matter (energy), leading to a mass increase of the celestial bodies.

[StephenPGoodfellow]

I've got no beef with Huygens, he was a great and insightful individual. Yarkovski's aether model is inspiring.

The thrust of this video is an attempt to physically verify HOW plasma behavior may produce non-space and HOW neutrino data may prove the Suns radiative energy has its origins in the shell, rather than the core, which is non-existent. Would these eminent individuals not be able to discern the difference between theory and an approach of discovery? I think you know the answer.

[nfexp]

How this explain Earth's and other solids homogeneous objects gravitational field?

[StephenPGoodfellow]

Hi nfexp, Gas, liquids, solids go on doing what they do, no modification to established understanding necessary. It is only then matter is in a high energy plasma state that gravity is induced. The other three states will of course interact with the gravitational induction.

[sballin]

First - You are the man, I hope you are right.