Since the manual was published in 1980, it's assumed that it was created before the first movie. Everything shown on in the simulation is shown in the drawings. The uploader only derived what would happen in an emergency landing. I believe the authors were just publishing the book for cash ahead of the movie with disregard for accuracy. They may have believed this was going to be a one time thing.
@Spyderblade001 - I know. I was alive at the time in high school. The movie came out in Dec 1979. Then movies can run for several months in the theaters before they're dropped. The movie poster books and articles were made to promote the movie that you could buy at a convenience stores. It would seem the manual was riding on the wave of the Star Trek movie. I've seen the manuals were offered in Starlog and OMNI magazines to name a few.
@Spyderblade001 "Warp core breach in five minutes, Captain!" or "Antimatter containment failure imminent." Would you want to sacrifice the whole ship or have a way to get the crew the hell out of Dodge?
@Spyderblade001 - I Google the reference quoted above. There's a pdf file of the manual. It's in there. You'll need to blame Doug Drexler and Geoffrey Mandel for the illustration. I believe they made the drawings before the first movie.
not a bad video, but the neck is supposed to stay attatched and serve as a third leg where the two triangles near the front of the saucer are the other two emergency landing legs
@bennett1562 It would run at impulse. They would probably send out a distress signal at that point so another ship could tow them to the nearest starbase.at warp. At that bpoint it could be scrapped or fitted to a new engineering section.
Why wouldn't it just detach from the neck of the starship from the beginning? And what was the point of the bridge flying off mis landing, wouldn't that cause the rest of the saucer section to crash?
@U3X6785 That is NOT the neck! That is the dorsal connector. Before you make any comments about about a ship, study some engineering! Neck, my God!! =Stefan=
I don't know if this is canon or not, but it does look like an interesting possibility for what could happen on the show should something (such as a Warp Core Breach) happen, and the landing pylons would be a good idea should a nearby planet or moon be the only option for survival.
Also, don't knock the effects on a Youtube video just because it''s obviously done on a PC/Mac. I would never be able to do this particular animation myself, let alone the 3D imagery. Thumbs up number 82 from me.
Actually, this makes more sense than the other versions, keeping the connecting plyon (neck between the two hulls) attached as an air rudder, until just before the saucer section lands. You have great imagination in seeing things like an engineer would, and how things would operate. Thanks for the video.
@kias4ever Constitution class saucer separation involved blowing the explosive bolts holding the saucer on to the neck. Can't be recombined except at a starbase.
Actually, the Constitution class DID have this feature, though it was never used. It's present on the old blueprints by Franz Joseph. However, the "neck" section doesn't separate from the secondary hull. The saucer separates at the top of the neck, as it does with the Galaxy.
@113742651 It cant. The Constitution class vessels were pretty much a death trap when a full crew is aboard. 1 Transporter room with only 6 pads, as well as a shuttle bay that can hold only 4 Class F shuttlecrafts (each can hold 7 people safely). There would be no way an entire crew of 430 could make it off the ship alive in the event of a warp core breach or automatic destruct. Sure the head could be detached through a controlled explosion, but that would be entirely risky, due to no airlocks.
Stop giving the guy such a hard time! It's not supposed look high-end, it's just supposed to illustrate how it would be done. Anyway I like the landing gear makes it look like the ship from "Forbidden Planet", a film that Star Trek owes more to than it ever admitted.
I'm confused as to why the bridge section came off. And the neck that connects it to the secondary hull.
Interestingly, in the earliest days of the development of TOS, the idea was that the saucer section would detach and land on a new planet every week a'la "Forbidden Planet", with people tromping up and down gangplanks. They quickly realized they didn't have the budget for it, so they came up with the transporter as a cheapie alternative
The other major dispute is the Engine Room. In the first season Kirk makes it clear that it is located in the saucer and controls the impulse engines.. We also see the warp engines controlled from this local. In ST-TMP, the engine room was moved to the 2nd hull. Later people tried to reconcile the difference by designing models/ diagrams that give the TV ship the same layout as the MP ship.
But thats not possible because Kirk cant find engineering in TMP because it IS in a different place.
@drbotanus I believe the TOS remastered has allowed for a retcon, which puts the engineering section down in the drive section of the ship, so as to match all other future designs of the Enterprise, and the future ships as well, which all had the engineering section down there.
@leandar No retcon necessary. The engineering section was always in the secondary hull, despite Franz Joseph's Blueprints. See the TOS episode Day Of The Dove, where the energy creature made the Feds and Klingons duke it out aboard the Enterprise. They finally ran the creature off after the battle in engineering. If you notice when the creature leaves, an exterior shot shows it leaving the rear part of the secondary hull, the drive section. Sorry, but Franz Josheph's designs were just wrong.
The Enterprise is a Constitution Class Ship. The Upgraded movie version is a Constitution II Class, but they started calling it Enterprise Class after Next Gen started. The best evidence that the Enterprise can separate is the second, slightly smaller bridge located in the secondary hull. It was seen a few times on the show.
@drbotanus Actually, the reference of it being called Enterprise class comes waaaay before TNG, next time you watch Star Trek II, when Kirk comes out of the simulator and sees Spock, look carefully at the sign behind him. It says something to the effect of "Bridge simulator, Enterprise class."
I know. Its actually a goof. The published materials for ST:TMP all say that its the Constitution II class. Remember, were supposed to accept that this is a refit of the OS Enterprise, despite it looking so different that this idea is really absurd. Careful research, about the series was done when writing TMP to make sure that it would satisfy the hard core fans. The rest of the films were not as carefully thought out & some rather bizarre changes came up. Wish I had more room here.
@keegan47401 First, we all know what the ship looks like and its interior design. It does not have those extensions. Second, if the Enterprise D couldn't avoid a crash landing, neither could this one. Plus, the reality would be to avoid objects, not aim for them.
Yes the older Federations ships (like the Constitution-Class) COULD seperate the saucer section in an emergency. What they couldn't do was reattach to the Stardrive-Section on their own, reattaching the two was said to have required a full shipyard - and major repairs to both sections, as basically explosives seperated the vessel.
This is the original series' Constitution Class under Captain Kirk. It DOES have saucer separation abilities, as it was specifically mentioned by Kirk in an original episode - but never actually did it.
Actually, Constitution class ships don't have saucer separation maneuvers. It is stated in "Mission Farpoint" that this is an explicitly new thing in Galaxy class ships.
Star trek episodes always are wrong or dont get stories right 100% of the time. One of the original star trek episodes with kirk he mentions the Constitution has the ability to do this but only in extreme emergency's
@DocTomoe812 "Encounter at Farpoint" didn't say anything about it being a new feature, just that a high warp separation was possible but had to be done perfectly. According to I believe, it was the ST Fan Club magazine, an issue in 1987 stated that Gene Roddenberry had always intended the Enterprise to be capable of saucer separation, but it was never done in the original series because of the lack of budget for such a thing.
The dorsal would not come off with the saucer, it would only be the saucer that seperates. It would also have two landing struts that come out from the bottom instead of those wedge things.
The saucer was never separated from the drive section on the Constitution-class ship in TOS "The Apple." Although Kirk mentioned it, it never happened. The only ship capable of saucer separation was the Galaxy-class Starship(NCC-1701D) under the command of Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
If you are referring to the films and series, you´re right. But in the books it is often mentioned that saucer-separation in emergency cases is possible. The difference to the Galaxy class is that every other class is not able to act as a ship anymore, when the separation is complete. every other class uses the separation only to rescue the crew, while galaxyclassships can continue their missions.
If this is in the blue prints, does the saucer actually loose the 'neck in the atmosphere? Isn't that a possible danger to life-forms below? Also(if this is to specs...), those blocky wedge shapes lowering look silly. I think the look of the saucer with the 'neck' look strange, but as this video began, I assumed it was to remain fixed. Then, I assumed that those two 45%(?) printed do-dads that stretch out spoke-like from the bottom center 'bubble' to the front edges were retactable landing legs.
Constitution-Class starships can land in water if the water is deep enough (ocean away from shores; the center of the Hudson River,) without disconnecting the secondary hull (intact.) This occrred in New York in the 1990's. It was south of the George Washington Bridge.
Considering how rarely starships use this function, this is pretty useless. Not to mention all the space the "landing gear" takes up. It could be used for more practical things that might save the ship in the first place (more equipment, more computer memory, etc.) Escape pods seem to make more sense.
You just violated the laws of physics and gravity lol. Even on a foreign planet this wouldn't work. You killed everyone, not just the red shirts. I like it though! How do you get off the planet without your engines? Everyone fires their phasers at once and forces the ship back into orbit?
@stepstools5: "How do you get off the planet without your engines? "
Generally, landing the saucer was considered a last-ditch soution. If it was forced to do that, it was probably totaled already. In fact, the ship was not really designed to seperate easily, and would have needed the support of a spacedock to reattach the two segments even both parts stayed intact.
@davidls11 I'd choose Q because he's omnipotent, whilst spock can do anything because of his superior intelect... so it's much easier for Q to be omnipitent
@stepstools5 well, IF the constitution class had an emergency separation sequence, there would be thrusters on the upper half. just like the Enterprise D.
@Bassistking Its in the Star Trek encyclopedia as well as a couple of other books. it was even mentioned in one of the original Star Trek episodes by Kirk as an option but never carried out.
I would ppoint out just for information's sake that the detatching of the saucer from a Constitution class starship is a semi perminant event as it is incapable of re-docking with the star drive since the actual separation is achieved with explosives that physically destroy a portion of the neck section.
There are plenty of ships that can do a saucer separation. Riker has conducted saucer separation and manual reconnection with the USS Hood (Excelsior Class), USS Lexington (Nebula class) & in "Encounter at Farpoint," it is mentioned that Riker has a lot of experience and training in saucer separation and reconnection, and the Enterprise-D is only the 2nd Galaxy class made, and he never served on the USS Galaxy. Also, it's been suggested the a Sovereign class ship can also do a separation.
As far as I know, only the Galaxy-class had a detachable saucer module, and the Intrepid-class was small enough to land itself. Not even the Enterprise-E can do that!
A constitution class can, it has landing gear stored under the two triangle-shaped hatches on the ventral side of the saucer. A third leg popped out from the cavity where the secondary hull connected to the saucer. An Excelsior Class, Nebula Class, Constitution Refit, Miranda class, Ambassador Class, and Sovereign Class Ship can. All ships have seperation lines visible, and most have clear displays showing a battle bridge on the main displays on the bridge.
Also, Riker served on the USS Lexington (Nebula Class) and the USS Hood (Excelsior Class) and had conducted separation on those ships before serving on the Enterprise D, and it's mentioned in the episode "Encounter at Far Point" that he has had extensive experience and training in saucer separation procedures, also providing evidence that saucer separation is possible on other classes of ships.
I wonder is the Bridge section of the ship and it's base are ejecatble to act as a Lifeboat in case of extreme catastrophic disaster.
As good as the Original show was and still is it was hampered by a Super Low Budget that Handicapped many stories of all it's 3 Seasons. Also the special effects Technology available back then was so limited that combine with a schedule for a weekly Major National TV Network it is a wonder Star Trek was even made at all Period. Shatner made it happen. Period.
damn, sorry folks. Finger slipped, wrong button.
intermender 5 days ago
Is early/basic graphics, but still neat from a trek/tech head perspective.
MarkusReese 1 week ago
Graphics made with a Commodore 64
nightwriterou812 3 weeks ago
Terrible. Looks like PC graphics from 1990
lonstar70 3 weeks ago
Perhaps if you added the WEE WEE WEE pig from Gieco it would look a tad more realistic?
scb923 1 month ago
what the fuck was that? I mean besides a waste of time?
ThelemicPotter 1 month ago
well that was probably the stupidest thing I ever saw.
four95 1 month ago
Star trek is for Men, NOT LITTLE BOYS!!!!
MrLawritz 1 month ago
@MrLawritz Trekkies ARE little boys. Trek isn't the real world!
dukeallen2001 1 month ago
Star trek is for Men not little boys
MrLawritz 1 month ago
The saucer section detaches from the neck to the secondary hull.
1958kz 1 month ago
Since the manual was published in 1980, it's assumed that it was created before the first movie. Everything shown on in the simulation is shown in the drawings. The uploader only derived what would happen in an emergency landing. I believe the authors were just publishing the book for cash ahead of the movie with disregard for accuracy. They may have believed this was going to be a one time thing.
darkguardian1314 1 month ago
@darkguardian1314 But the first movie was released in 1979...a year before the manual was published.
Spyderblade001 1 month ago
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@Spyderblade001 - I know. I was alive at the time in high school. The movie came out in Dec 1979. Then movies can run for several months in the theaters before they're dropped. The movie poster books and articles were made to promote the movie that you could buy at a convenience stores. It would seem the manual was riding on the wave of the Star Trek movie. I've seen the manuals were offered in Starlog and OMNI magazines to name a few.
darkguardian1314 1 month ago
That... was terrible special effects
joeymusial 2 months ago
I didn't know the atari 2600 had a star trek game.
jebes909090 2 months ago
At 0:20 the ship begins to take a dump.
JamesonBondy 3 months ago
0:42 Abandon Ship!
Keither754 3 months ago
OMG YALL NEED TO GET LAID!! I dont know how i got here, I was looking for crab battles and ended up here. God help me!
spcwright2002 3 months ago
Hey....The dislike bar looks like a......wait........wrong franchise.
Terran123rd 3 months ago 8
9 seconds of "descent" where nothing happens. 9 seconds I will never get back.
AmerSocCivilEng 4 months ago
If you read "The Art of Star Trek", it actually has artists depictions of a Constitution Class saucer separation. This video is crap.
MaqAttaq 4 months ago
WTF is this shit, why was this in my recomendations?
scorchx3000 4 months ago
Boo. Maka No Sense
email9354 4 months ago
Why would the bridge module detach and land separately?
Spyderblade001 4 months ago
@Spyderblade001 "Warp core breach in five minutes, Captain!" or "Antimatter containment failure imminent." Would you want to sacrifice the whole ship or have a way to get the crew the hell out of Dodge?
capttheo1 3 months ago
@capttheo1 That's kinda solved by running away in the saucer in the first place. Having a second seperation after that is uneeded and wasteful.
Terran123rd 3 months ago
@capttheo1 Well, that is the reason for the saucer seperation, but why would the bridge module seperate from tthe rest of the saucer on landing?
Spyderblade001 2 months ago
@Spyderblade001 The bridge module wouldn't. The dorsal separates just under the saucer, not near the bottom of it. That way, only one separation.
capttheo1 2 months ago
@Spyderblade001 - I Google the reference quoted above. There's a pdf file of the manual. It's in there. You'll need to blame Doug Drexler and Geoffrey Mandel for the illustration. I believe they made the drawings before the first movie.
darkguardian1314 1 month ago
lol thats not the right class
lastat999 4 months ago
95 people successfully landed their ships this way
andolmar 5 months ago
ur doin it rong
EVAUnit4A 5 months ago
Wow how did they film that? it looks so real!
THeMaskedBlogCritic 5 months ago
left rudder....left rudder......anchors away.
philipriding 5 months ago
not a bad video, but the neck is supposed to stay attatched and serve as a third leg where the two triangles near the front of the saucer are the other two emergency landing legs
roguecajun 6 months ago
@roguecajun I remember seeing a third triangle at the back of the saucer lower section in the manual. That would act as the third leg.
Spyderblade001 1 month ago
why is it when something cool from star trek or anything eles someone has to do something stupid and shit like that. WHh i ask !
Nuckeles 6 months ago
this will never happen cause the only impulse engin is on the saucer! How would the main ship move around then?!?!?!?!? HUH?!?!?!?!?"
bennett1562 6 months ago
@bennett1562 It would run at impulse. They would probably send out a distress signal at that point so another ship could tow them to the nearest starbase.at warp. At that bpoint it could be scrapped or fitted to a new engineering section.
Spyderblade001 1 month ago
How did this shit get 123,220 views and my masterpiece get only 500?
BorgKing001 6 months ago
lame
michsnowdog 6 months ago
Constructive criticism...there are better 3d rendering progs out there than MS Paint.
talshiarr 7 months ago
funny
bitukukuasukgremany3 7 months ago
nice video...
jrpie1215 7 months ago
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GO FUCK YOURSELF
ODOMAN123 7 months ago
this is bullshit...ive seen the blueprints from the early 70's of this ship..there is no landing struts or any kind of device to do so...
expostfactum 7 months ago
This might suck- But im curious as to what music he/she used...
Quackerilla 7 months ago
Totally did not study those blueprints for the ship! LOL! this was epic fail!
Lenzabi 7 months ago
WOW THAT SUCKED! PLease stop posting this trash!
jdogg67333 7 months ago
Best part is 0:56
rjd071983 7 months ago
I once snapped a turd in half while trying to take a shit. That was a better starship separation than this video.
Zebonka 7 months ago
I laughed SO hard.
MissReibot 7 months ago
The explosive bolts are at the top of the neck :P All the MSD's and Diagrams show that ;)
jnadreth 7 months ago
WOw, could this BE any worse?
taylorgpa 8 months ago
lol
kcirtap86patrick 8 months ago
this isnt star trek next gen
thedoctor42209 8 months ago
Why wouldn't it just detach from the neck of the starship from the beginning? And what was the point of the bridge flying off mis landing, wouldn't that cause the rest of the saucer section to crash?
JBHSBandGeek 9 months ago
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Probablyacowtbh 9 months ago
0:28 Captain!! I am still in the neck of the ship.....still in the neck of the ship......you assholes.
U3X6785 9 months ago 23
@U3X6785 That is NOT the neck! That is the dorsal connector. Before you make any comments about about a ship, study some engineering! Neck, my God!! =Stefan=
chengloki 3 months ago
@chengloki True but neck sounds funnier.
U3X6785 3 weeks ago
@U3X6785 Knowing my dumbass, that would be me screaming at the Captain that I was still in the neck of the ship.
fodxp 3 weeks ago
This is the worst crap I ever seen in my life, and lets not even talk about the music!!!!
Jamalhh75 9 months ago
Umm, you could have saved yourself the trouble and just posted a copy of Generations.
mcavic 9 months ago 2
I don't know if this is canon or not, but it does look like an interesting possibility for what could happen on the show should something (such as a Warp Core Breach) happen, and the landing pylons would be a good idea should a nearby planet or moon be the only option for survival.
Also, don't knock the effects on a Youtube video just because it''s obviously done on a PC/Mac. I would never be able to do this particular animation myself, let alone the 3D imagery. Thumbs up number 82 from me.
davincent98 9 months ago
81 people understand that you "Canna change the laws of physics cappin!"
Ransty101 9 months ago
Wow, this was NOT taken from any official manuals. The front landing legs didn't even deploy. I give this an F for effort and execution.
StarwasterPrime 9 months ago
uummm Ed wood Special effect
middletonization 9 months ago
Actually, this makes more sense than the other versions, keeping the connecting plyon (neck between the two hulls) attached as an air rudder, until just before the saucer section lands. You have great imagination in seeing things like an engineer would, and how things would operate. Thanks for the video.
Grey9man 9 months ago
They don't detach like that...Watch Star Trek and you'll learn a thing or two.
TheDogaxe 9 months ago
B U L S H I T ! ! !
3goldy 10 months ago
LtStatictheFox, this is Donald Trump. YOU'RE FIRED!
alameda1212 10 months ago
omg there goes 56 seconds of my life i wont get back!
miblack05 10 months ago
Took more effort to upload it than make it by the looks of it.
FilthyShadow 10 months ago
Saucer goes off at the neck and not on the secondary hall...
JASHUH 10 months ago 14
@JASHUH as well as constitution not have saucer separation functions
kias4ever 3 weeks ago
@kias4ever Constitution class saucer separation involved blowing the explosive bolts holding the saucer on to the neck. Can't be recombined except at a starbase.
Maupin001 3 weeks ago
Actually, the Constitution class DID have this feature, though it was never used. It's present on the old blueprints by Franz Joseph. However, the "neck" section doesn't separate from the secondary hull. The saucer separates at the top of the neck, as it does with the Galaxy.
STNeish 10 months ago
ohh yeah as if the could fit the whole crew into decks 1 and 2 at the bridge section
highonstartrek 10 months ago
@highonstartrek
The crew would be in the saucer section. The bridge probably detatches as a last-ditch for the bridge crew.
Draknfyre 9 months ago
vid sucked dick
comments made up for it though
Picard240 11 months ago
It looks like the ship from "Forbidden Planet" only shiitier
jtspock 11 months ago
Edward d wood jr would have been proud of you.
paintmn1 11 months ago
@113742651 they don't
sega88100 11 months ago
@113742651 It cant. The Constitution class vessels were pretty much a death trap when a full crew is aboard. 1 Transporter room with only 6 pads, as well as a shuttle bay that can hold only 4 Class F shuttlecrafts (each can hold 7 people safely). There would be no way an entire crew of 430 could make it off the ship alive in the event of a warp core breach or automatic destruct. Sure the head could be detached through a controlled explosion, but that would be entirely risky, due to no airlocks.
thatguyontheright1 1 year ago
@thatguyontheright1 How about remote beaming via the cargo bay transporter? Move entire populations with that thing.
supressorgrid 11 months ago
@supressorgrid Constitution Class vessels had no such feature
thatguyontheright1 11 months ago
@thatguyontheright1 Then how did Decker evacuate the entire crew of the Constellation during the Doomsday device incident?
vjeko1701 11 months ago
@vjeko1701 He had time
thatguyontheright1 11 months ago
wow what a waste of 1 minute. good lord, what were you thinking....
wjohnmca 1 year ago
Looks like shit
tobascocat1 1 year ago
The bridge said "Screw this, I'm out."
AeronPeryton 1 year ago 3
Stop giving the guy such a hard time! It's not supposed look high-end, it's just supposed to illustrate how it would be done. Anyway I like the landing gear makes it look like the ship from "Forbidden Planet", a film that Star Trek owes more to than it ever admitted.
DSisterson 1 year ago
plus its WRONG!!! The connecting piece between the two stayed with the engineering section.
mpersico 1 year ago
I'm confused as to why the bridge section came off. And the neck that connects it to the secondary hull.
Interestingly, in the earliest days of the development of TOS, the idea was that the saucer section would detach and land on a new planet every week a'la "Forbidden Planet", with people tromping up and down gangplanks. They quickly realized they didn't have the budget for it, so they came up with the transporter as a cheapie alternative
RepublibotThreePoint 1 year ago
@RepublibotThreePoint
The funny thing is I bet they took the saucer section separation idea for USS Enterprise-D on TNG and that landing idea for USS Voyager on VOY. Lol.
TheStarTreker 1 year ago
What is this? ... Even the original series paid more attention to physics than this piece of shit.
llamapi3 1 year ago 50
@llamapi3 Not everyone is an expert at 3d modeling :P
justinok67 7 months ago
Question. Why are we having a debate over an ass-terrible video?
CloverZack 1 year ago
It's wrong. The saucer section was connected at the top of the pylon, not the bottom,
mpersico 1 year ago
This video sucks more that Star Trek V
Waynecampbell111 1 year ago 71
@Waynecampbell111 i have to agree with you... even i can do better shit than that
Elite94A 11 months ago
@Waynecampbell111
RFLMAO
JosephRDweck 6 months ago
@Waynecampbell111 Your grammar sucks more. lol. j/k
mgrimes554 5 months ago
The other major dispute is the Engine Room. In the first season Kirk makes it clear that it is located in the saucer and controls the impulse engines.. We also see the warp engines controlled from this local. In ST-TMP, the engine room was moved to the 2nd hull. Later people tried to reconcile the difference by designing models/ diagrams that give the TV ship the same layout as the MP ship.
But thats not possible because Kirk cant find engineering in TMP because it IS in a different place.
drbotanus 1 year ago
@drbotanus I believe the TOS remastered has allowed for a retcon, which puts the engineering section down in the drive section of the ship, so as to match all other future designs of the Enterprise, and the future ships as well, which all had the engineering section down there.
leandar 1 year ago
@leandar No retcon necessary. The engineering section was always in the secondary hull, despite Franz Joseph's Blueprints. See the TOS episode Day Of The Dove, where the energy creature made the Feds and Klingons duke it out aboard the Enterprise. They finally ran the creature off after the battle in engineering. If you notice when the creature leaves, an exterior shot shows it leaving the rear part of the secondary hull, the drive section. Sorry, but Franz Josheph's designs were just wrong.
danarseti 1 year ago
The Enterprise is a Constitution Class Ship. The Upgraded movie version is a Constitution II Class, but they started calling it Enterprise Class after Next Gen started. The best evidence that the Enterprise can separate is the second, slightly smaller bridge located in the secondary hull. It was seen a few times on the show.
drbotanus 1 year ago
@drbotanus Actually, the reference of it being called Enterprise class comes waaaay before TNG, next time you watch Star Trek II, when Kirk comes out of the simulator and sees Spock, look carefully at the sign behind him. It says something to the effect of "Bridge simulator, Enterprise class."
leandar 1 year ago
@leandar
I know. Its actually a goof. The published materials for ST:TMP all say that its the Constitution II class. Remember, were supposed to accept that this is a refit of the OS Enterprise, despite it looking so different that this idea is really absurd. Careful research, about the series was done when writing TMP to make sure that it would satisfy the hard core fans. The rest of the films were not as carefully thought out & some rather bizarre changes came up. Wish I had more room here.
drbotanus 1 year ago
@keegan47401 First, we all know what the ship looks like and its interior design. It does not have those extensions. Second, if the Enterprise D couldn't avoid a crash landing, neither could this one. Plus, the reality would be to avoid objects, not aim for them.
bugameca 1 year ago
Ok, so maybe the constitution could separate. It still wouldn't look like this, nor would it land so smoothly, if at all.
bugameca 1 year ago
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Yes the older Federations ships (like the Constitution-Class) COULD seperate the saucer section in an emergency. What they couldn't do was reattach to the Stardrive-Section on their own, reattaching the two was said to have required a full shipyard - and major repairs to both sections, as basically explosives seperated the vessel.
Dragonbait74 1 year ago
This is the original series' Constitution Class under Captain Kirk. It DOES have saucer separation abilities, as it was specifically mentioned by Kirk in an original episode - but never actually did it.
dtstrain 1 year ago
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Dragonbait74 1 year ago
well, did the crew get back alright?
Jemmer1000 1 year ago
Actually, Constitution class ships don't have saucer separation maneuvers. It is stated in "Mission Farpoint" that this is an explicitly new thing in Galaxy class ships.
Feeling like a complete nerd now.
DocTomoe812 1 year ago
@DocTomoe812
Star trek episodes always are wrong or dont get stories right 100% of the time. One of the original star trek episodes with kirk he mentions the Constitution has the ability to do this but only in extreme emergency's
1ownjoo2 1 year ago
@DocTomoe812 "Encounter at Farpoint" didn't say anything about it being a new feature, just that a high warp separation was possible but had to be done perfectly. According to I believe, it was the ST Fan Club magazine, an issue in 1987 stated that Gene Roddenberry had always intended the Enterprise to be capable of saucer separation, but it was never done in the original series because of the lack of budget for such a thing.
leandar 1 year ago
The dorsal would not come off with the saucer, it would only be the saucer that seperates. It would also have two landing struts that come out from the bottom instead of those wedge things.
John32070 1 year ago
The saucer was never separated from the drive section on the Constitution-class ship in TOS "The Apple." Although Kirk mentioned it, it never happened. The only ship capable of saucer separation was the Galaxy-class Starship(NCC-1701D) under the command of Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
gargoyle2bad4u 1 year ago
@gargoyle2bad4u
If you are referring to the films and series, you´re right. But in the books it is often mentioned that saucer-separation in emergency cases is possible. The difference to the Galaxy class is that every other class is not able to act as a ship anymore, when the separation is complete. every other class uses the separation only to rescue the crew, while galaxyclassships can continue their missions.
1991DemonSlayer 1 year ago
This stinks of lightwave 3d.
zimtower 1 year ago
wtf?
piano15R 1 year ago 6
If this is in the blue prints, does the saucer actually loose the 'neck in the atmosphere? Isn't that a possible danger to life-forms below? Also(if this is to specs...), those blocky wedge shapes lowering look silly. I think the look of the saucer with the 'neck' look strange, but as this video began, I assumed it was to remain fixed. Then, I assumed that those two 45%(?) printed do-dads that stretch out spoke-like from the bottom center 'bubble' to the front edges were retactable landing legs.
Velocity9s 1 year ago
@MegaFederation So no important people get killed!
stepstools5 1 year ago
I wish I there was a legitimate reason to flag this video, because it deserves to be destroyed. So does its maker.
bugameca 1 year ago
@bugameca This video really pissed you off this much? LOL! It's You-tube buddy! Chill out!
You know, Kirk, in the episode "The Apple" in 1967 does say to get ready to seporate the saucer section.
madcapromanian 1 year ago
@madcapromanian Thats correct about 'The Apple'. And possibly in another episode.
Velocity9s 1 year ago
Why would the bridge fly out?
MegaFederation 1 year ago
Except that the saucer of a Constellation-Class doesn't separate
fanboysreign 1 year ago
@fanboysreign This is a Constitution Class, not a Constellation Class.
jimmyboy99 1 year ago
The was funny :O)
Ahkinum 1 year ago
Flaps to 40%
Landing gear down!
Keep her nose up!
Steady. Steeeeady!
Nash1a 1 year ago
@Nash1a steady... we don't want to crash... hey wait a minute isn't that the ensign which crashed 47 federation saucers?
StelarCF 1 year ago
Constitution-Class starships can land in water if the water is deep enough (ocean away from shores; the center of the Hudson River,) without disconnecting the secondary hull (intact.) This occrred in New York in the 1990's. It was south of the George Washington Bridge.
jimmyputputatyahoo 1 year ago
Considering how rarely starships use this function, this is pretty useless. Not to mention all the space the "landing gear" takes up. It could be used for more practical things that might save the ship in the first place (more equipment, more computer memory, etc.) Escape pods seem to make more sense.
spacecowboy5000 1 year ago
What is the point of the bridge separation at the end?
finalfrontier1701 1 year ago
@finalfrontier1701 Maybe a precaution so that if the saucer explodes the command crew(most experimented) still remain's alive
StelarCF 1 year ago
I read the manual, this is surprisingly accurate.
stepstools5 1 year ago
OOOHHH SHIT!
GarrisonHat 1 year ago
Needs work, man.
qwertzy121212 1 year ago
You just violated the laws of physics and gravity lol. Even on a foreign planet this wouldn't work. You killed everyone, not just the red shirts. I like it though! How do you get off the planet without your engines? Everyone fires their phasers at once and forces the ship back into orbit?
stepstools5 1 year ago
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@stepstools5: "How do you get off the planet without your engines? "
Generally, landing the saucer was considered a last-ditch soution. If it was forced to do that, it was probably totaled already. In fact, the ship was not really designed to seperate easily, and would have needed the support of a spacedock to reattach the two segments even both parts stayed intact.
CapyGuy 1 year ago
@stepstools5 If the inertial dampeners were online the crew could have survived. Then they could have called Q to rebuild the ship.
davidls11 1 year ago
@davidls11 Q is no match for spock
StelarCF 1 year ago
@StelarCF So if you could be either one you'd choose Spock? I don't think so.
davidls11 1 year ago
@davidls11 I'd choose Q because he's omnipotent, whilst spock can do anything because of his superior intelect... so it's much easier for Q to be omnipitent
StelarCF 1 year ago
@stepstools5 well, IF the constitution class had an emergency separation sequence, there would be thrusters on the upper half. just like the Enterprise D.
bugameca 1 year ago
@bugameca
umm, and there totally are,,
KatanaMasta88 1 year ago
More parts flying off than a blown - up date doll!
Zeeta55 1 year ago
This would not work. Ever.
Cmdrscott1701 1 year ago
so thats were the flying saucer came from
ssjtruncks90 1 year ago
laws of motion, mass conservation and space time violation!!!
thedreamdealer 1 year ago
@thedreamdealer Maybe the landing struts were made out of Unobtainium from "The Core?" ;)
fuzzybeard2016 1 year ago
canon violation!
Artifphlex 1 year ago
And where in the manual does it say this?
Bassistking 1 year ago
@Bassistking Its in the Star Trek encyclopedia as well as a couple of other books. it was even mentioned in one of the original Star Trek episodes by Kirk as an option but never carried out.
BricktownBubba 1 year ago
I would ppoint out just for information's sake that the detatching of the saucer from a Constitution class starship is a semi perminant event as it is incapable of re-docking with the star drive since the actual separation is achieved with explosives that physically destroy a portion of the neck section.
Gutpunchtaker 1 year ago
how do the real ones land
DumbDrunkLoser75IQ 1 year ago
"Ensign, deploy cheese wedges!"
Lazyguy22 1 year ago 2
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There are plenty of ships that can do a saucer separation. Riker has conducted saucer separation and manual reconnection with the USS Hood (Excelsior Class), USS Lexington (Nebula class) & in "Encounter at Farpoint," it is mentioned that Riker has a lot of experience and training in saucer separation and reconnection, and the Enterprise-D is only the 2nd Galaxy class made, and he never served on the USS Galaxy. Also, it's been suggested the a Sovereign class ship can also do a separation.
BillyBiggRigger 1 year ago
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BillyBiggRigger 1 year ago
As far as I know, only the Galaxy-class had a detachable saucer module, and the Intrepid-class was small enough to land itself. Not even the Enterprise-E can do that!
PCCphoenix 1 year ago
A constitution class can, it has landing gear stored under the two triangle-shaped hatches on the ventral side of the saucer. A third leg popped out from the cavity where the secondary hull connected to the saucer. An Excelsior Class, Nebula Class, Constitution Refit, Miranda class, Ambassador Class, and Sovereign Class Ship can. All ships have seperation lines visible, and most have clear displays showing a battle bridge on the main displays on the bridge.
BillyBiggRigger 1 year ago
Also, Riker served on the USS Lexington (Nebula Class) and the USS Hood (Excelsior Class) and had conducted separation on those ships before serving on the Enterprise D, and it's mentioned in the episode "Encounter at Far Point" that he has had extensive experience and training in saucer separation procedures, also providing evidence that saucer separation is possible on other classes of ships.
BillyBiggRigger 1 year ago
I wonder is the Bridge section of the ship and it's base are ejecatble to act as a Lifeboat in case of extreme catastrophic disaster.
As good as the Original show was and still is it was hampered by a Super Low Budget that Handicapped many stories of all it's 3 Seasons. Also the special effects Technology available back then was so limited that combine with a schedule for a weekly Major National TV Network it is a wonder Star Trek was even made at all Period. Shatner made it happen. Period.
Roadracer987654321 1 year ago
Did the saucer section ever separate on TOS?
17R3W 1 year ago
@17R3W Never on screen, though the possibility was mentioned.
Halo1Buff 1 year ago
It's only the saucer section that needs to apart like the galaxy class or it's a Fail!
SR71ABCD 1 year ago