,,,and these McDonald munching retards think that THEIR result is conclusive? First off, midget Indians watching cricket on tv does not qualify them as legit cricketers Secondly that is NOT how the cricket ball is 'bowled'... they were attempting to 'pitch' the cricket ball, same way as the americans were pitching the baseball... Now how about seeing how well these baseballers do with some legit cricket bowling action against real cricketers who actually play organised competitive cricket!
They are completely different sports that you can't compare; you throw a hard ball at someone with a bat and that's about it. Cricket (especially with all it's formats) is much more diverse and tactical, you can't question that. I love cricket but understand why people do baseball, but the differences are so massive you can't seriously compare the sports. Obviously the main debate here is speed, at the highest professional level there may not be much in it, but let's be honest, 99% of baseballe
wtf does aroldis chapman have to do with this video. to be honest search this guy up and this man is one of the dangerous pitchers in the majors. HE THREW 105 MPH AND THE FATASS IN THIS VIDEO IS THROWING LIKE 88 MPH. THATS NOTHING. but still i say chapman is not dangerous when you put shoib akther not bending his arm and bowling 100 mph.
I'm a great fan of cricket, but honestly? Indian bowlers? India has a long history of producing medium pace bowlers, not fast bowlers. At least get some Pakistanis or Australians.
Professional cricketers can bowl a cricket ball over 22 yards at over 100mph, that is with the ball bouncing off the ground and with a runup. Professional baseball pitchers can do marginally better over a shorter distance without the bounce but with no runup.
@townsvillefield While it is true that the distance between the popping creases in cricket is some 2 and a half feet less than baseball, the actual distance travelled by a cricket ball is longer, because it travels from a height of around 8ft to the ground, then sometimes up another 6ft. The total distance is the hypotenuse of two triangles, or one if it is a yorker. A baseball is pitched along a direct trajectory with a drop of only a few inches. Baseball pitches are shorter.
@townsvillefield ..Then there's the difference in the weights of the balls to consider, but you are right, with the batters/batsmen moving forward and back, and the pitcher/bowlers lunging over the mound or crease there is not too much difference. This video is indicative of the appalling ignorance many Americans have of all things non-American. Considering how easy it is to learn what how real bowlers bowl, they should be ashamed. All the best.
wooo chapman university where the tests get serious, serious enough to make me think....When did someone even bowl?? Throw in Brett Lee and catch hes 160km/h bouncer
If you cricket players found out how much money MLB players make, i think it would make you cry, and regret the fact that you've wasted your life with cricket.
The batsman is free to hit the ball in whatever direction he chooses, although the bowler will try to entice him or even force him into playing into a particular area where a fielder has been deliberately placed.....So the answer is no, they don't have to hit into areas out of vision, but such a tactic would render them predictable and easy to field against. It's vital for him to use the full range of shots in order to spread the fielders, The batsman must memorize each position and any changes
@AFFTL no there aren't and no there haven't.100mph = 160.9 km/h. Ahktar and Lee were both chuckers when they got 150+ and so does everyone else who bowls that speed (I.e. bent arm). The mechanics (bowling action laws) don't allow those speeds for legal deliveries. I'm a cricket fan - try to be objective mate..
Cricket...ballers haha.. cricket bowlers don't go faster than 95mph or so but I'd prefer to a 105mph baseball pitch over a cricket bouncer at 95mph hitting the seam on a hard pitch.. either way, serious speed. I agree with some other peeps - bad analogy considering minor league pitcher vs amateur student cricketers.. econometric integrity says no.
Why have they got the Cricketers Baseball Pitching instead of Bowling. And for future refence to Americans, Indians arent good a fast bowling, there a good ccicket nation but arnt known for producing fast Bowlers. And get the players of the same level, those Crickers wern't very good.
WHO THE FUCKING HELL PAID OR GAVE THESE FUCKS THE RIGHT/OPPORTUNITY TO FILM SUCH A SPORT SCIENCE TYPE OF QUESTION? it doesn't matter which sport pitches their deliveries faster. as far as i know. sachin can't score a homerun if he batted in baseball, and jeter can't go on to make a century if he batted in cricket. NOW THAT SUMS IT UP I THINK.
7. i wanna kill all three of those out of shape short indian fucks that think they are cool.
8. they made themselves look so stupid. said cricket pitches faster. they would have been closely correct if dale steyn or akhtar were bowling deliveries. but nope, these ugly fucking cunts made themselves look so dumb that i wanna burn them alive.
9. props to the baseball pitchers. for doing their thing correctly. indian 'bowlers' tried to throw instead of correctly deliver their bowling. FUCKERS
there are few fast bowlers in cricket, they can hit 95, but only a handful have reached close to 100, shaun tait and shoaib akhtar. On the other hand baseball is FILLED with guys who throw 100 regularly, Aroldis Chapman clocked one at 105 ml/hr. And yes its illegal to bend your arm in cricket, but its also illegal to do a run up in baseball..
I dont know y everyone keeps comparing baseball to cricket. THEY'RE DIFFERENT, but they both offer great entertainment - thats all that matters!!
@mohammadzafar You express the opinion that you "don't know why everyone keeps comparing baseball to cricket" But only after you've done the very same thing yourself with you're comparison of bowling and pitching speeds
It seems to me that you want to extol the virtues of baseball over those of cricket, but you lack the balls to actually do so, and you're prepared to contradict yourself and curry favour with advocates of both sports in an effort to avoid confrontation
@lookyew - take it easy bro. Try smiling and stop being so close minded - not everything is set up and only in ur world would i be contradicting myself.
Listen man, they're both fun sports. At the end of the day, thats all that really matters. I grew up watching baseball then fell in love with cricket. They're both good in their own way. take care man, i dont like arguing with ppl - sorry if u misunderstood me :)
I tried it and can say hitting the baseball was easier. The cricket guy was pitching friendly stuff (equivalent of giving throw downs) and still mark reynolds hit the equivalent of fowl ball in every hit with poor contact.
@mahgop22 "the cricket guy was throwing friendly stuff"
Yea, but to be fair, so was the unnamed baseball pitcher. 80 mph fastball is not a competitive pitch and any real half decent MLB batter could smack the crap out of it. Thats batting practice stuff.
Either way who cares, theyre different sports and theyre both good, people should be bitching over which better or harder theyre just too different.
there is no need to put any comparison comments in this video. hopefully one day, they will actually put in real cricket players vs USA league baseball players. then see why baseball is a game that came from cricket. if played right, both got its own difficulty but cricket do have too much rules to follow. cricket batting is in 360 degree view where baseball is just swingin the bat hard without directing the ball. these cricket bowlers in this video couldn't even bounce the ball. they r newby.
@gurru19871 "where baseball is just swinging the bat hard without directing the ball"
I got nothing against cricket, but that statement is just not true at all. Baseball players frequently try to pull ball in certain direction or area depending how the infield and outfield are positioned and who's on base. You can just swing away hope you make contact, there's waaay more to it. You really gotta decide where the gaps are, if youre power hitting, just trying to get on base, etc.
@zzyzx0788 well, its kinda hard to believe of how much you can direct a ball with a bat that is well rounded. in cricket, the bat is shaped flat. may american's laugh at it saying its easy to hit the ball with it, but they forget that its not just hitting and running four bases. compare facing 3 balls in baseball vs facing 300 balls per match if your real good at cricket. i call that intense. plus, you have watch if the ball will spin, swing, coming towards ur toes, your face..
@gurru19871 Not saying a cricket ball is easy to hit, just saying a baseball isnt easy to hit either. You definitely can direct a ball with your swing, timing is a huge part. Little too early, foul ball, little too late, foul ball, but you get the right pitch you can dump it into a good spot.
@zzyzx0788 i agree totally with u on how each game has its own difficulty level... only thing i get irritated about is when they try to compare 2 games, they should be atleast fair on matching up. baseball is an american sport mainly and a college league from here would be excellent at it. good match up with them to compare games would be with a school or college team from australia, india or south africa.
@lookyew ohh... coool. lol... agreed.. u guys are good too... yes, england is real good... i'm too used to watching england games since recently i've been hearing good stuffs of england games... i was always into listening about the england at the time of ashes games. but yes, england is number one in test playing in the world. i never said i don't like u guys. lol...
Where did you get those Indian blokes from...... They were shit...... Terrible experiment. Sorry they were not cricketers! Gets some proper cricketers before you post this fucking pointless shit video.... Actually Sorry....we found it quite amusing. Those Indian blokes were fucking hilarious......
wait that was hardly fair, they got a trained pitcher against indian cricket players to see which group can pitch faster. It is pretty much a no contest.
Get the pitcher to BOWL and the indians to BOWL, see who wins then, huh
LOL at those indian guys.Fast bowl in cricket -90 -100 mphAnd in cricket you cant bend your arms when bowling its called chuckin'You have to keep it straight That's why the speed of the cricket bowlers is slower than baseball pitches (cause baseballers bend their arms and in cricket its illegalTHOSE INDIAN GUYS WERE ACTUALLY PIECE OF SHIT.GET PRoffesional cricket player (Brett lee,Lasith maling) And record their speed in bowlin.And get a baseball pitcher and record their speed without bendinARM
@DColon806 And cricket bowlers aren't allowed to bend their arms to put momentum on the ball......All you've gotta do is try it for yourself to see how difficult it is to bowl straight armed, windmill style......And why a run up is needed....Let me know how you get on
And when you reply please try not to come back with something as childish as "run like little girls"
@DColon806 baseballers wear gloves to catch a ball, like little girls....
cricket fans don't make biased, pre-determined outcome videos, or troll baseball videos, like little girls either......
We know our game is superior, we don't have to, so go away, you dopey looking prick.
you just stay in america mate, & we'll continue to engage the rest of the world with sports & culture, which is something you haven't got the courage to do.
@MrHamster111 but that wasn't the point of the experiment. this just shows its harder to hit a baseball than a cricket ball. and baseball players have a smaller bat that's not flat. also, these baseball pitchers are shite too
@townsvillefield i don't see why. this video isn't ment to settle an argument. it's not a well made video and it doesn't represent all americans. the fact that you think so is pretty ridiculous. watch the sports science about it. the baseball player smacks the cricket tosses, but the cricket player can't touch a baseball to save his life
@mothahen123 So called Sports science doesn't know jack about cricket.....And neither do you if you don't mind me saying....... Reynolds failed as badly as the amateur cricketer
@lookyew haha how can you say that??? the cricketer was aweful. and reynolds is not a great baseball player but he still looked relatively comfortable with the cricket ball
@mothahen123 I can say that because I understand cricket....Reynolds received the slowest possible long hops on a predictable, artificial surface yet all he could manage was to loft the ball tamely forward into the air each time...... There is no foul territory in cricket and so the claim that he hit 70% in play merely means that he was predictable = Caught every time!! He would not be able to cope with the demands of real bowling & the need to play 360% whilst keeping the ball on the ground
@mothahen123 Sports Science is a Fox production....Which we all know to be blatantly pro American
The cricketer was described as an "International Star" because he plays for the U.S.A. team....Which actually means he's a part timer
Reynolds looked awful as well but you can't see that co's you don't understand what's going on.....For a clue note that he wasn't wearing leg pads or any other protection...Did you know that a cricket ball is both harder & heavier than a baseball?
@lookyew it's heavier by .25 ounces on average so thats not a big deal at all. i know mark reynolds didn't do well, but he made contact on 20 of the pitches, while the cricket player did twice. and a little side not, mark reynolds has the MLB record for most strikeouts in a season, so don't ask me why they used him on a contact-based experiment. also, in cricket you can hit it in any direction, and choose if you like your hit or not. thats not the way it works in baseball
@mothahen123 It's good to see you've done some research concerning the ball... I've handled both and the difference is noticeable
The necessity to hit in every direction requires a far greater range & variety of shots....Plus the ball comes at you in far more ways....Sometimes at your head, sometimes at your ankles...Something that Reynolds didn't have to worry about and the reason he wasn't wearing protective gear....He was in absolutely no danger at all of receiving anything remotely nasty
@mothahen123 Yes, Reynolds is a struggling MLB pro....But he's STILL an MLB pro....And in a nation where baseball is played by millions he is probably in the top 0.01 percent of players
The cricketer on the other hand is an immigrant amateur in a non cricket playing nation....
@mothahen123 Pool ball is not very heavy, but has no give. Same with cricket ball. More than heavyness, it is this hardness that makes the difference. When I got baseball players to play cricket, they wore gear even at 50 mph pithcing (when learning initially, you have more chance of getting hit).
@mothahen123 The guy in video is a US player (equivalent of a school player in the scheme of things) and further one who is a defensive (does not hit hard) rather than offensive player. It matters what kind of player you are because you hold the bat differently. Had he tried gilchrist or hayden or anyone who plays hook and pulls well, he would have adjusted much faster. The bowling in the video was pathetic and he bowled in baseball zone instead of varying and trying to hurt reynolds
@mothahen123 It was too easy offerings with little variation and speed around 50 mph (Since he is a spinner and top of it, was never a pitcher in the first place). I did not see any of the balls varying in pace or spin nor using thewidth of the crease. I pitched it here to minor league players and they were barely able to touch. I on the other hand did better since I like the pull shot anyway and was able to adapt my swing faster.
@mothahen123 I went back and looked at the Fox Sports video. Mark played horribly on easy pitches. Looking at contact with bat, he had bad contact on the bat and spooned up the balls to much. had no control of where it was going and hit it in only in one direction. Also look closely at the way the cricket ball is coming. The ball actualy is dipping (meaning it is on the way down instead of up). This implies it is a very slow ball (40 mph) and reynold failed to handle that !!
@lookyew mlb pro sounds good, but he has the mlb record for strikeouts in a single season. using him for a study that requires contact = TOTAL BULLSHIT
@mothahen123 Really?....Reynolds may be struggling but he is still an MLB pro in a country where the sport is played by many millions of people....Which must put him somewhere in the top 0.01 percent of the population
The cricketer, on the other hand, represents a pool of perhaps 20,00 players at most...Very far from being the "international star" that Sport's Science claim
And you really believe that this isn't a hopelessly unfair match up?
@lookyew obviously you're not going to see what i'm saying, but i'm still standing by the belief that baseball all around is much harder than cricket. im not taking anything away from cricket, im just saying my part
@mothahen123 Whilst the 2 sports may appear similar on the surface they are in fact very different. Too many American baseball fans seem to think that cricket is just baseball but played with a bigger bat & a ball that is bounced when pitched (bowled). A prime example being the Sports science episode where they talk about percentage of balls being hit in play...No foul territory in cricket...And wild slugging like that will get you out in no time....Cricket batting = 360 placement
@lookyewall i've given you is facts that you ignore. the test that sports science did concluded that baseball was harder, obviously you disagree and think the experiment was flawed. that is your opinion. regardless, i believe that baseball is a more challenging sport, and i have told you why.
@mothahen123 Sports science did NOT conclude that baseball was harder...Merely that hitting was harder. But even here the fact that they've used a pro athlete against an unknown amateur, and that they've totally miss understood the demands of cricket means that the test was seriously flawed
Where are the tests on fielding? cricket = bare handed with harder, heavier ball.. And bowling? Cricket = straight armed technique....much harder than throwing
@lookyew in baseball hitting, you can't hit it in any direction. in baseball you can't elect to not run if you don't like your hit. in baseball, the ball is thrown harder (the fact that the pitcher may bend their arm does make it easier for a pitcher, but much harder for a hitter). in baseball, the ratio of the bat's area compared to the strike zone is much much less than the ratio of a cricket bat's area to the wickets
@mothahen123 In baseball you stand in a corner & hit out, only having to concentrate on a 90 degree arc. In cricket you stand in the middle & have fielders surrounding you, not just in front. In cricket you must have the ability to hit with inch perfect accuracy in all directions...not just forward.
Cricketers play for FAR longer...8 hours a day for up to 5 days & a batsman gets 2 innings at most, but often only 1...When he's out that's it! Cricket requires far more stamina & concentration
@mothahen123 Your belief is just that, a BELIEF! not a fact. A batsman nust be more skilled to hit 360 degrees. A baseballer HAS to run after a hit, even when he knows he'll be tagged out. Where's the skill in that? The ball is "thrown" at comparable speeds in both games. Batting is harder because you have to protect the wickets, yourself, & think about which way you'll hit the ball in a split second. If you miss the ball you'll get hit, & no free walk. You better shut up until you try it.
@mothahen123 Your belief is just that, a BELIEF! not a fact. A batsman nust be more skilled to hit 360 degrees. A baseballer HAS to run after a hit, even when he knows he'll be tagged out. Where's the skill in that? The ball is "thrown" at comparable speeds in both games. Batting is harder because you have to protect the wickets, yourself, & think about which way you'll hit the ball in a split second. If you miss the ball you'll get hit, & no free walk. You better shut up until you try it.
@townsvillefield i watched the video you wanted me to and both of the baseball players did really really well considering they had never played before. give a cricketer a baseball bat against a professional pitcher and i will gaurantee you he never hits a ball solidly
@townsvillefield of course they missed the first three! they'd never played the sport before. find a video of cricketers (who've never played baseball before) succeeding against a professional baseball pitcher and i'll start to believe you. i have an appreciation for the game too. it's damn hard, but not as hard as baseball
@townsvillefield you're not getting my point. of course they were bad at first but progressively got better. that's the way sports work. as i said before, i GUARANTEE you that a cricketer could not step in the batter's box and make contact off a professional pitcher on his first three tries.
@MrHamster111 K....well to be fair these baseball pitchers were nobodies. And also I dont think it was trying to say one was physically better than the other just that the style of throwing in both sports creates differences in speed.
Also why is everyone whining so much about this? It just looks like crappy advertisement for some nothing nowhere college called Chapman University.
@MrHamster111 i get what you are sayin but why would ypu need to impair the baseball player by throwing in a motion that he doen't know. Why don't we get the cricket players to bend their arms and then we will see. And btw I'll just add on that it is way easier to hit a cricket ball than a baseball. The surface area on a cricketr pattle is significantly larger than a baseball bats. Also in cricket you watch on the floor and look at the bounce to hit it, in baseball it is direct.
@iR0NMike4 "You watch on the floor and look at the bounce"!!!!??? NO, YOU DO NOT!! How are you going to deal with a full length ball or even a yorker which is aimed at your ankles.
Someone's been watching that sports science rubbish, obviously.....
@lookyew well all i am saying is that a cricket pattle has like a 32 inces squared hitting surface and a baseball bat has like a 5 inch squared hitting surface - do the math! and what is wrong? you couldn't rebutle my first point?
@iR0NMike4 I'd agree that actually making contact in baseball is probably going to be harder, but in cricket you gotta make the ball do much more, and stay out there far longer with fewer chances....Once you're out that's it for the day. The sweet spot on a cricket bat is only about four inches square & central, and unless you find it you ain't gonna be able to control the ball & you won't last long. Just making contact ain't enough when you are surrounded in all directions by fielders
@iR0NMike In England we say maths....And here's some for you;- Straight drive, on drive, off drive, cover drive, square drive, cut, square cut, late cut, pull, hook, leg glance, sweep, reverse sweep....And those are just the attacking strokes
How many strokes does a baseball batter have?....He surely doesn't need many as he uses the same swing each time and only needs to hit the ball out in front of him
Think about it son.....It ain't rocket science......Just basic Maths
@lookyew First of all I ain't your son!!!! Second baseball players have ma couple swings: Two srike protective swing, power(homerun swing) , inside out swing on outside pitches, just making contact to move the runners over swing) and oh yea! their normal preffered swing, cricket has more because in baseball these ones are hard enough to master. Think about it mam'
@iR0NMike4 Sorry kid....All the shots you mentioned are just variations of the same swing. In cricket each shot requires a unique swing and body position, and the batsman has to pick up what kind of bowl it is as soon as the ball leaves the bowlers hand. By time it hits the ground he needs to be in the correct position and already half way through his stroke.
Footwork is far more important in cricket than baseball.....Back foot for short pitch & front foot for full pitch...And that's a STRIDE
@lookyew In baseball you aren't surrounded on all sides by fielders but you can only hit the ball in fair ground. The sweet spot on a baseball bat is smaller.
@TKDLION ....Fair ground being in front of you in a 90 degree arc. Certainly not easy but consider that cricket batsman must hit the ball with accuracy into areas that are out of their vision, They do these by memorisng
@iR0NMike4 Why aren't you over at this video which shows MLB players struggling to even hit the first 3 balls & then lamely itting the rest into the same area everytime. The cricket players are weak USA team players too.LOL!
@townsvillefield obviously they wouldnt be able to hit the first three balls. the sport is much different than baseball incuding the equipment which takes getting used to. Your telling me that you expect to walk and not fall down your first three steps as a baby??? Just cricketeers that have neber played baseball suck even worse at baseball than baseball pros twhom have never played cricket suck at cricket, therefore making baseball more difficult
@lookyew a cricket batman resembles a a martail artist my ass. A baseball player resembles a smart person because he or she chose the right sport over cricket, baseball
@iR0NMike4 A cricket bat is often referred to as a blade because the stroke play resembles swordplay
"A baseball player resembles a mart person because he chose the right sport over cricket"....Really? I'd say it's far more likely that there was very little choice involved...It's just the sport that he grew up with...Same would be true for the cricketer.....And the same for you and I...
@iR0NMike4 "obviously they wouldnt be able to hit the first three balls. the sport is much different than baseball incuding the equipment which takes getting used to"......This is your comment, and one which I entirely agree with....Now here's an extract from FOX Sports science Baseball Vs Cricket;- "Mark easily adjusts and crushes the ball"...Doesn't really sound right now does it?....And in light of your excellent comment on this page do you now think that Sports Science test possibly flawed?
@lookyew yess I think its flawed because they don't have fair match ups, u much rather see the best of each sport face off but they can't just do that, you seem like a smart guy but i am just saying that baseball is more difficult but cricket is up there with difficult sports
@iR0NMike4 The fact that they've paired up a MLB pro with an amateur from a non-cricket playing country is careless, but to then label said amateur as an "international star" is downright dishonest and misleading....And it goes on..
I'm not very smart at all, it's just that your argument is weak and therefore easy to pick off.
You need to research your facts more & not just fall back on your emotions. Just cos you love baseball doesn't mean cricket is weaker....Just means you love baseball..
I thought it would be easy for a pro MLB player to hit a slow bowled cricket ball with a "big paddle"
I mean, that's what you uneducated morons say all the time.
There are plenty of people from cricket playing nations playing MLB.
Good cricket players can make big money. Why isn't world cricket inundated with baseball players that missed a pro MLB career because a better foreign player took their job?
@townsvillefield i am actually educated by the way and now you are bringing race into it, wow!!! thats how you know you lost an arguement hands down and insulting the other person too wow you lost goodbye
@XPil3s But this university has not done any research at all into cricket bowlers, there are 6 types of bowlers:
Spin: 40-55mph
Slow: 55-60mph
Medium: 60-70mph
Medium fast: 70-80 mph
Fast medium: 80-90mph
Fast: 90-100 mph
These guys are spin bowlers and aren't even bowling like a cricket bowler would, you go to any club and see how they bowl and it's nothing like they do at all, there's no run up and it's actually illigal to bowl like that in cricket cause it's basically chucking.
@XPil3s You're right, It wouldn't make sense to bring in top class pros, but they should at least find people who know how to actually bowl. I think those Indian guys most have been confused & thought they were supposed to be pitching, as in baseball. Cricket bowling is an entirely different technique in which the arm must be kept straight, windmill style, and a run up is essential to put pace on the ball. What made me laugh was the presenter claiming that Chapman wasn't just any old university
wait how did cricket players get such an ego about their sport? look, i know ur sport doesnt get a tons of coverage everywhere but, dont bash baseball in attempt to gain more respect. we know its a 'misrepresentation', look at those kids r u kidding? they were wearing jeans and weighed a buck 60. anybody whos not retarded or on their high horse of cricket can see these sports are extremely similar.
@514millertime Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world, mate.....Plenty of coverage there...
Personally I'm not trying to bash baseball; In fact I have total respect for the sport, but I can understand why some cricket fans are getting irate as this isn't the only bullshit comparison around...and we're getting tired of it..
IMO the two sports are extremely dissimilar, and require very different approaches & techniques...Baseball having evolved from the English game of Rounders..,,
@514millertime They are somewhat similar in that they require hand eye coordination and involve a bat and ball. Similarity stops there as the goals (baseball is more defensive as runs scored are less) with very different tactics required.
@mahgop22 mate, these are the only two sports that require a bat and ball. They're more closely related to one another than any other sport...They're similar. This isn't even an argument man. If they are not similar to each other than what sport are they each differently similar too
@514millertime To compare sport, you need to access mental ability and strategies and what is required by the players. Just the fact that ball and bat is involved does not go beyond hand eye coordination (say tennis has the same thing or racquetball). What you are trying to achieve is entirely different in cricket and baseball. Baseball does not allow longer examination of batsmen, but has pitcher pitching for a long time, cricket is reverse (though not to the same extent).
@mahgop22 thats your point as to how they arent similar?? omg mate seriously. w.e, your butt holes obviously tight about something. exemplifying my first point that once u offend a cricket player, many of them just bash baseball and go on about how unique and better it is. go play cricket, y wld u even talk about baseball in the first palce. u guys gotta relaize that u dont work any crazy amount harder, u dont put in a crazy more amount of time, than anyone, doing ANYthing in this world.
@514millertime Obviously you are not getting my point. did you see me talking about who works harder!!! Just tactics and requirement. Most people on this site would not have commented on baseball if it was not for the stupid attempts made by baseball players to show cricket in poor light through comparison with non-players (Fox one included). It is this stupidity which offends most of the posters here. It is personal preference and which game u grew up with that u may support.
@mahgop22 im seriously fucking done with youtube. we're pretty much saying bs along the same lines. like the fucking bickering dude shutttt upppp, its not even an agrugment anymore, its like a spouting. final note though: u cannot be mad at baseball players for showing up cricket players, when the cricket players started the whole damn thing. final final note: get fucked
@townsvillefield how I would know, my knowledge the problem? the guy throws 3balls 10feet high in a row, not even athlete in his mind to realize he has to make a correction..
,,,and these McDonald munching retards think that THEIR result is conclusive? First off, midget Indians watching cricket on tv does not qualify them as legit cricketers Secondly that is NOT how the cricket ball is 'bowled'... they were attempting to 'pitch' the cricket ball, same way as the americans were pitching the baseball... Now how about seeing how well these baseballers do with some legit cricket bowling action against real cricketers who actually play organised competitive cricket!
xxxricky 3 days ago
God some americans are retarded
roccoson621 1 week ago 3
Finish:! Don't like cricket and vice versa, for obvious reasons, so why compare!! P.s. rugby rules
MrGareth1980 1 week ago
They are completely different sports that you can't compare; you throw a hard ball at someone with a bat and that's about it. Cricket (especially with all it's formats) is much more diverse and tactical, you can't question that. I love cricket but understand why people do baseball, but the differences are so massive you can't seriously compare the sports. Obviously the main debate here is speed, at the highest professional level there may not be much in it, but let's be honest, 99% of baseballe
MrGareth1980 1 week ago
wtf does aroldis chapman have to do with this video. to be honest search this guy up and this man is one of the dangerous pitchers in the majors. HE THREW 105 MPH AND THE FATASS IN THIS VIDEO IS THROWING LIKE 88 MPH. THATS NOTHING. but still i say chapman is not dangerous when you put shoib akther not bending his arm and bowling 100 mph.
strawberrypanic700 3 weeks ago
Lets see a baseballer pitch at 100mph without bending his arm
DeanWhipper 3 weeks ago
I'm a great fan of cricket, but honestly? Indian bowlers? India has a long history of producing medium pace bowlers, not fast bowlers. At least get some Pakistanis or Australians.
MrECC83 1 month ago
Professional cricketers can bowl a cricket ball over 22 yards at over 100mph, that is with the ball bouncing off the ground and with a runup. Professional baseball pitchers can do marginally better over a shorter distance without the bounce but with no runup.
TheMortalhuman 1 month ago
@TheMortalhuman cricket balls are bowled over a shorter distance of 58ft between the popping creases.
in baseball it is 60ft 6inches.
get it right!
townsvillefield 1 month ago
@townsvillefield While it is true that the distance between the popping creases in cricket is some 2 and a half feet less than baseball, the actual distance travelled by a cricket ball is longer, because it travels from a height of around 8ft to the ground, then sometimes up another 6ft. The total distance is the hypotenuse of two triangles, or one if it is a yorker. A baseball is pitched along a direct trajectory with a drop of only a few inches. Baseball pitches are shorter.
TheMortalhuman 1 month ago
@TheMortalhuman Yeah, unless he bowls a full toss, or it's Malinga bowling.
And the batsman can leave the crease if he wants.
There is no rule requiring the ball be bounced either, as you're obviously aware.
in the end there is not a lot of difference. Either way, this video is a laughing stock.
townsvillefield 1 month ago
@townsvillefield ..Then there's the difference in the weights of the balls to consider, but you are right, with the batters/batsmen moving forward and back, and the pitcher/bowlers lunging over the mound or crease there is not too much difference. This video is indicative of the appalling ignorance many Americans have of all things non-American. Considering how easy it is to learn what how real bowlers bowl, they should be ashamed. All the best.
TheMortalhuman 1 month ago 2
CRICKET SUCKS
coolkidcater 1 month ago
what the hell was that? seriously? They did this as a joke and to put down cricket right? that isn't how you bowl the ball...
rodz0r 1 month ago
wooo chapman university where the tests get serious, serious enough to make me think....When did someone even bowl?? Throw in Brett Lee and catch hes 160km/h bouncer
rwill146 1 month ago
If you cricket players found out how much money MLB players make, i think it would make you cry, and regret the fact that you've wasted your life with cricket.
Epimpin101 1 month ago
@Epimpin101 cricket players earn plenty, & have the pride of playing for their country.
what...a million bucks a year is regretful???
you're a fucking idiot!
shove your baseball up your arse, dumb cunt!
townsvillefield 1 month ago
@townsvillefield lol multiply that by 30 (btw i love both baseball and cricket and think they are equally difficult in different ways)
liatpilot28 1 month ago
@Epimpin101 Bwahaha....Do you even know how much cricket players earn?? ,especially in IPL...m sure u dont
ancientphoenixians 1 month ago
Well I'm glad I don't attend that uni.
Highbeams100 1 month ago
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basebaii is most difficult sport
cricket is easy sport
ieyasuvip2 2 months ago
@ieyasuvip2 Playing for 5 days straight in the heat of Australia and India.
Yeah....easy....
gnarkillkicksass 1 month ago
This is shocking and an insult to Cricket!
GKAnalyst 2 months ago
that didnt look like cricket bowling...
timbocaff86 2 months ago 2
@timbocaff86 true
strawberrypanic700 1 month ago
The batsman is free to hit the ball in whatever direction he chooses, although the bowler will try to entice him or even force him into playing into a particular area where a fielder has been deliberately placed.....So the answer is no, they don't have to hit into areas out of vision, but such a tactic would render them predictable and easy to field against. It's vital for him to use the full range of shots in order to spread the fielders, The batsman must memorize each position and any changes
lookyew 2 months ago 2
@AFFTL no there aren't and no there haven't.100mph = 160.9 km/h. Ahktar and Lee were both chuckers when they got 150+ and so does everyone else who bowls that speed (I.e. bent arm). The mechanics (bowling action laws) don't allow those speeds for legal deliveries. I'm a cricket fan - try to be objective mate..
waeom 2 months ago
Cricket...ballers haha.. cricket bowlers don't go faster than 95mph or so but I'd prefer to a 105mph baseball pitch over a cricket bouncer at 95mph hitting the seam on a hard pitch.. either way, serious speed. I agree with some other peeps - bad analogy considering minor league pitcher vs amateur student cricketers.. econometric integrity says no.
waeom 3 months ago
@waeom There sevral Cicket Bowlers at the moment who go can bowl around 100 mph, and plenty threw history.
AFFTL 2 months ago
Why have they got the Cricketers Baseball Pitching instead of Bowling. And for future refence to Americans, Indians arent good a fast bowling, there a good ccicket nation but arnt known for producing fast Bowlers. And get the players of the same level, those Crickers wern't very good.
AFFTL 2 months ago
"Baseball players or cricket...ballers"
armbar 3 months ago
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shockradium 3 months ago
WHO THE FUCKING HELL PAID OR GAVE THESE FUCKS THE RIGHT/OPPORTUNITY TO FILM SUCH A SPORT SCIENCE TYPE OF QUESTION? it doesn't matter which sport pitches their deliveries faster. as far as i know. sachin can't score a homerun if he batted in baseball, and jeter can't go on to make a century if he batted in cricket. NOW THAT SUMS IT UP I THINK.
dilkashh 3 months ago
7. i wanna kill all three of those out of shape short indian fucks that think they are cool.
8. they made themselves look so stupid. said cricket pitches faster. they would have been closely correct if dale steyn or akhtar were bowling deliveries. but nope, these ugly fucking cunts made themselves look so dumb that i wanna burn them alive.
9. props to the baseball pitchers. for doing their thing correctly. indian 'bowlers' tried to throw instead of correctly deliver their bowling. FUCKERS
dilkashh 3 months ago
1. baseball pitchers pitch that baseball anywhere from 70mph to 110mph.
2. baseball pitchers pitch/deliver their 'throws' with a bended arm.
3. a bended arm has more power release of a throw than a straight full arm like in cricket.
4. to show who pitches faster in the two various sports is pathetic, since the two sports pitch their deliveries through different methods/procedures.
5. these indian dudes suck ass. they can't even bowl faster than 60mph.
6. i hate stupid vids like this. BS.
dilkashh 3 months ago
haha... that indian guy was my old servant.. watch?v=-naY95teWO0 . watch this bowling.. this is called bowling. not throwing mangoes !!
Vishnumachan 3 months ago 10
@Vishnumachan Nice video!
One-eyed baseball fans should watch that & take note.
here is the link again:
watch?v=-naY95teWO0
townsvillefield 3 months ago
This stupid indian doesnt know how to bowl... I wish I was there...
lifehanger 4 months ago
there are few fast bowlers in cricket, they can hit 95, but only a handful have reached close to 100, shaun tait and shoaib akhtar. On the other hand baseball is FILLED with guys who throw 100 regularly, Aroldis Chapman clocked one at 105 ml/hr. And yes its illegal to bend your arm in cricket, but its also illegal to do a run up in baseball..
I dont know y everyone keeps comparing baseball to cricket. THEY'RE DIFFERENT, but they both offer great entertainment - thats all that matters!!
mohammadzafar 4 months ago
@mohammadzafar You express the opinion that you "don't know why everyone keeps comparing baseball to cricket" But only after you've done the very same thing yourself with you're comparison of bowling and pitching speeds
It seems to me that you want to extol the virtues of baseball over those of cricket, but you lack the balls to actually do so, and you're prepared to contradict yourself and curry favour with advocates of both sports in an effort to avoid confrontation
You hypocritical coward
lookyew 4 months ago
@lookyew - take it easy bro. Try smiling and stop being so close minded - not everything is set up and only in ur world would i be contradicting myself.
Listen man, they're both fun sports. At the end of the day, thats all that really matters. I grew up watching baseball then fell in love with cricket. They're both good in their own way. take care man, i dont like arguing with ppl - sorry if u misunderstood me :)
mohammadzafar 4 months ago
@mohammadzafar I'm glad I've never met you in the flesh.....Not for one second would I turn my back on someone like you...
lookyew 4 months ago
I tried it and can say hitting the baseball was easier. The cricket guy was pitching friendly stuff (equivalent of giving throw downs) and still mark reynolds hit the equivalent of fowl ball in every hit with poor contact.
mahgop22 4 months ago
@mahgop22 "the cricket guy was throwing friendly stuff"
Yea, but to be fair, so was the unnamed baseball pitcher. 80 mph fastball is not a competitive pitch and any real half decent MLB batter could smack the crap out of it. Thats batting practice stuff.
Either way who cares, theyre different sports and theyre both good, people should be bitching over which better or harder theyre just too different.
zzyzx0788 3 months ago
there is no need to put any comparison comments in this video. hopefully one day, they will actually put in real cricket players vs USA league baseball players. then see why baseball is a game that came from cricket. if played right, both got its own difficulty but cricket do have too much rules to follow. cricket batting is in 360 degree view where baseball is just swingin the bat hard without directing the ball. these cricket bowlers in this video couldn't even bounce the ball. they r newby.
gurru19871 4 months ago
@gurru19871 "where baseball is just swinging the bat hard without directing the ball"
I got nothing against cricket, but that statement is just not true at all. Baseball players frequently try to pull ball in certain direction or area depending how the infield and outfield are positioned and who's on base. You can just swing away hope you make contact, there's waaay more to it. You really gotta decide where the gaps are, if youre power hitting, just trying to get on base, etc.
zzyzx0788 3 months ago
@zzyzx0788 well, its kinda hard to believe of how much you can direct a ball with a bat that is well rounded. in cricket, the bat is shaped flat. may american's laugh at it saying its easy to hit the ball with it, but they forget that its not just hitting and running four bases. compare facing 3 balls in baseball vs facing 300 balls per match if your real good at cricket. i call that intense. plus, you have watch if the ball will spin, swing, coming towards ur toes, your face..
gurru19871 3 months ago
@gurru19871 Not saying a cricket ball is easy to hit, just saying a baseball isnt easy to hit either. You definitely can direct a ball with your swing, timing is a huge part. Little too early, foul ball, little too late, foul ball, but you get the right pitch you can dump it into a good spot.
zzyzx0788 3 months ago
@zzyzx0788 i agree totally with u on how each game has its own difficulty level... only thing i get irritated about is when they try to compare 2 games, they should be atleast fair on matching up. baseball is an american sport mainly and a college league from here would be excellent at it. good match up with them to compare games would be with a school or college team from australia, india or south africa.
gurru19871 3 months ago
@gurru19871 And not a school or college team from England? You may not like us but we're the number 1 test playing nation in the world at the moment
lookyew 3 months ago
@lookyew ohh... coool. lol... agreed.. u guys are good too... yes, england is real good... i'm too used to watching england games since recently i've been hearing good stuffs of england games... i was always into listening about the england at the time of ashes games. but yes, england is number one in test playing in the world. i never said i don't like u guys. lol...
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lookyew 4 months ago
Where did you get those Indian blokes from...... They were shit...... Terrible experiment. Sorry they were not cricketers! Gets some proper cricketers before you post this fucking pointless shit video.... Actually Sorry....we found it quite amusing. Those Indian blokes were fucking hilarious......
3ChelseaAvenue 4 months ago
i bet those indian guys were fakes
Xxsideshow22xX 5 months ago
thumbs up if you thought that the title meant an aroldis chapman fastball vs. a cricket fast pitch
mothahen123 5 months ago
Brett Lee has a 159 and that paki bloke was 161km/h from memory.
lynel1985 5 months ago
Y
eah that's awful, these Indian blokes obviously do not play cricket.
someblokecalleddave1 5 months ago
He can't pitch and he can't bowl. Both sports have gotten guys well over 100 mph.
Coastergeekperson04 5 months ago
wait that was hardly fair, they got a trained pitcher against indian cricket players to see which group can pitch faster. It is pretty much a no contest.
Get the pitcher to BOWL and the indians to BOWL, see who wins then, huh
johnstonl01 5 months ago
none of those cricket players can throw for shit..
g0hawks11 5 months ago
Baseball Rules!
cutegirl00179 5 months ago
@cutegirl00179 baseball rules the schoolyard..........maybe
cricket actually rules with 3 billion fans, you stupid troll.
now go away, boy!
townsvillefield 5 months ago
Watch " manny ramires tries cricket ", to see how a pro baseballer can't even hit friendly, patronising, slow bowled balls properly!
Or you can just believe this bogus crap, made with absolute nobodies!
townsvillefield 5 months ago
LOL at those indian guys.Fast bowl in cricket -90 -100 mphAnd in cricket you cant bend your arms when bowling its called chuckin'You have to keep it straight That's why the speed of the cricket bowlers is slower than baseball pitches (cause baseballers bend their arms and in cricket its illegalTHOSE INDIAN GUYS WERE ACTUALLY PIECE OF SHIT.GET PRoffesional cricket player (Brett lee,Lasith maling) And record their speed in bowlin.And get a baseball pitcher and record their speed without bendinARM
MrHamster111 6 months ago 4
@MrHamster111 yea but baseball pitchers cant run like little girls to put momentum behind the ball
DColon806 5 months ago
@DColon806 And cricket bowlers aren't allowed to bend their arms to put momentum on the ball......All you've gotta do is try it for yourself to see how difficult it is to bowl straight armed, windmill style......And why a run up is needed....Let me know how you get on
And when you reply please try not to come back with something as childish as "run like little girls"
lookyew 5 months ago
@DColon806 baseballers wear gloves to catch a ball, like little girls....
cricket fans don't make biased, pre-determined outcome videos, or troll baseball videos, like little girls either......
We know our game is superior, we don't have to, so go away, you dopey looking prick.
you just stay in america mate, & we'll continue to engage the rest of the world with sports & culture, which is something you haven't got the courage to do.
townsvillefield 5 months ago
@DColon806 "Dcolon", is rap talk for..... "the arsehole"
townsvillefield 5 months ago
@DColon806 yeah usain bolt is a girl. Going the right way mate.
mahgop22 4 months ago
@MrHamster111 but that wasn't the point of the experiment. this just shows its harder to hit a baseball than a cricket ball. and baseball players have a smaller bat that's not flat. also, these baseball pitchers are shite too
mothahen123 5 months ago
@mothahen123 Check out MLB players chris young & justin upton, fail to to hit friendly bowled cricket balls here
" Cricket vs. Baseball "
It's not easier to hit a cricket ball when the ball is being thrown directly at you!
This video just proves how insecure & petty americans are,
This video is an embarassing joke!
townsvillefield 5 months ago
@townsvillefield i don't see why. this video isn't ment to settle an argument. it's not a well made video and it doesn't represent all americans. the fact that you think so is pretty ridiculous. watch the sports science about it. the baseball player smacks the cricket tosses, but the cricket player can't touch a baseball to save his life
mothahen123 5 months ago
@mothahen123LOL.......... "sports science" is the other ridiculous biased you tube video!
At least you realise that this chapman video is not well made
Like i already said, watch the video i asked you to watch, to see a real test.
Cricket vs. Baseball you can find it on the right hand side of this screen in the suggestion video list, right now!
If you don't then don't bother talking to me any more.
Thank you.
townsvillefield 5 months ago
@mothahen123 So called Sports science doesn't know jack about cricket.....And neither do you if you don't mind me saying....... Reynolds failed as badly as the amateur cricketer
lookyew 5 months ago
@lookyew haha how can you say that??? the cricketer was aweful. and reynolds is not a great baseball player but he still looked relatively comfortable with the cricket ball
mothahen123 5 months ago
@mothahen123 I can say that because I understand cricket....Reynolds received the slowest possible long hops on a predictable, artificial surface yet all he could manage was to loft the ball tamely forward into the air each time...... There is no foul territory in cricket and so the claim that he hit 70% in play merely means that he was predictable = Caught every time!! He would not be able to cope with the demands of real bowling & the need to play 360% whilst keeping the ball on the ground
lookyew 5 months ago
@mothahen123 Sports Science is a Fox production....Which we all know to be blatantly pro American
The cricketer was described as an "International Star" because he plays for the U.S.A. team....Which actually means he's a part timer
Reynolds looked awful as well but you can't see that co's you don't understand what's going on.....For a clue note that he wasn't wearing leg pads or any other protection...Did you know that a cricket ball is both harder & heavier than a baseball?
Do some research
lookyew 5 months ago
@lookyew it's heavier by .25 ounces on average so thats not a big deal at all. i know mark reynolds didn't do well, but he made contact on 20 of the pitches, while the cricket player did twice. and a little side not, mark reynolds has the MLB record for most strikeouts in a season, so don't ask me why they used him on a contact-based experiment. also, in cricket you can hit it in any direction, and choose if you like your hit or not. thats not the way it works in baseball
mothahen123 4 months ago
@mothahen123 It's good to see you've done some research concerning the ball... I've handled both and the difference is noticeable
The necessity to hit in every direction requires a far greater range & variety of shots....Plus the ball comes at you in far more ways....Sometimes at your head, sometimes at your ankles...Something that Reynolds didn't have to worry about and the reason he wasn't wearing protective gear....He was in absolutely no danger at all of receiving anything remotely nasty
lookyew 4 months ago
@mothahen123 Yes, Reynolds is a struggling MLB pro....But he's STILL an MLB pro....And in a nation where baseball is played by millions he is probably in the top 0.01 percent of players
The cricketer on the other hand is an immigrant amateur in a non cricket playing nation....
lookyew 4 months ago
@mothahen123 the commentator called reynolds a "rising star". & one of "baseballs best young home run hitters"
Seems they even lie about their own....
townsvillefield 4 months ago
@mothahen123 Pool ball is not very heavy, but has no give. Same with cricket ball. More than heavyness, it is this hardness that makes the difference. When I got baseball players to play cricket, they wore gear even at 50 mph pithcing (when learning initially, you have more chance of getting hit).
mahgop22 4 months ago
@mothahen123 The guy in video is a US player (equivalent of a school player in the scheme of things) and further one who is a defensive (does not hit hard) rather than offensive player. It matters what kind of player you are because you hold the bat differently. Had he tried gilchrist or hayden or anyone who plays hook and pulls well, he would have adjusted much faster. The bowling in the video was pathetic and he bowled in baseball zone instead of varying and trying to hurt reynolds
mahgop22 4 months ago
@mothahen123 It was too easy offerings with little variation and speed around 50 mph (Since he is a spinner and top of it, was never a pitcher in the first place). I did not see any of the balls varying in pace or spin nor using thewidth of the crease. I pitched it here to minor league players and they were barely able to touch. I on the other hand did better since I like the pull shot anyway and was able to adapt my swing faster.
mahgop22 4 months ago
@mothahen123 I went back and looked at the Fox Sports video. Mark played horribly on easy pitches. Looking at contact with bat, he had bad contact on the bat and spooned up the balls to much. had no control of where it was going and hit it in only in one direction. Also look closely at the way the cricket ball is coming. The ball actualy is dipping (meaning it is on the way down instead of up). This implies it is a very slow ball (40 mph) and reynold failed to handle that !!
mahgop22 4 months ago
@mahgop22 yes but he still did a hell of a lot better than the cricket player. and the baseball pitcher wasn't throwing hard at all either.
mothahen123 4 months ago
@mothahen123 I'LL MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE FOR YOU;-
UNKNOWN AMATEUR VS MLB PRO = TOTAL BULLSHIT
lookyew 4 months ago
@lookyew mlb pro sounds good, but he has the mlb record for strikeouts in a single season. using him for a study that requires contact = TOTAL BULLSHIT
mothahen123 4 months ago
@mothahen123 How many people play baseball in your country?.......And how many play cricket?
lookyew 4 months ago
@lookyew that has nothing to do with it
mothahen123 4 months ago
@mothahen123 Really?....Reynolds may be struggling but he is still an MLB pro in a country where the sport is played by many millions of people....Which must put him somewhere in the top 0.01 percent of the population
The cricketer, on the other hand, represents a pool of perhaps 20,00 players at most...Very far from being the "international star" that Sport's Science claim
And you really believe that this isn't a hopelessly unfair match up?
lookyew 4 months ago
@lookyew obviously you're not going to see what i'm saying, but i'm still standing by the belief that baseball all around is much harder than cricket. im not taking anything away from cricket, im just saying my part
mothahen123 4 months ago
@mothahen123 Whilst the 2 sports may appear similar on the surface they are in fact very different. Too many American baseball fans seem to think that cricket is just baseball but played with a bigger bat & a ball that is bounced when pitched (bowled). A prime example being the Sports science episode where they talk about percentage of balls being hit in play...No foul territory in cricket...And wild slugging like that will get you out in no time....Cricket batting = 360 placement
lookyew 4 months ago
@mothahen123 I'm not going to see what you're saying?.......More like you don't want to face the facts
lookyew 4 months ago
@lookyewall i've given you is facts that you ignore. the test that sports science did concluded that baseball was harder, obviously you disagree and think the experiment was flawed. that is your opinion. regardless, i believe that baseball is a more challenging sport, and i have told you why.
mothahen123 4 months ago
@mothahen123 Sports science did NOT conclude that baseball was harder...Merely that hitting was harder. But even here the fact that they've used a pro athlete against an unknown amateur, and that they've totally miss understood the demands of cricket means that the test was seriously flawed
Where are the tests on fielding? cricket = bare handed with harder, heavier ball.. And bowling? Cricket = straight armed technique....much harder than throwing
Sorry, cricket is MUCH harder than baseball
lookyew 4 months ago
@lookyew in baseball hitting, you can't hit it in any direction. in baseball you can't elect to not run if you don't like your hit. in baseball, the ball is thrown harder (the fact that the pitcher may bend their arm does make it easier for a pitcher, but much harder for a hitter). in baseball, the ratio of the bat's area compared to the strike zone is much much less than the ratio of a cricket bat's area to the wickets
mothahen123 4 months ago
@mothahen123 In baseball you stand in a corner & hit out, only having to concentrate on a 90 degree arc. In cricket you stand in the middle & have fielders surrounding you, not just in front. In cricket you must have the ability to hit with inch perfect accuracy in all directions...not just forward.
Cricketers play for FAR longer...8 hours a day for up to 5 days & a batsman gets 2 innings at most, but often only 1...When he's out that's it! Cricket requires far more stamina & concentration
lookyew 4 months ago
@mothahen123 Your belief is just that, a BELIEF! not a fact. A batsman nust be more skilled to hit 360 degrees. A baseballer HAS to run after a hit, even when he knows he'll be tagged out. Where's the skill in that? The ball is "thrown" at comparable speeds in both games. Batting is harder because you have to protect the wickets, yourself, & think about which way you'll hit the ball in a split second. If you miss the ball you'll get hit, & no free walk. You better shut up until you try it.
townsvillefield 4 months ago
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@mothahen123 Your belief is just that, a BELIEF! not a fact. A batsman nust be more skilled to hit 360 degrees. A baseballer HAS to run after a hit, even when he knows he'll be tagged out. Where's the skill in that? The ball is "thrown" at comparable speeds in both games. Batting is harder because you have to protect the wickets, yourself, & think about which way you'll hit the ball in a split second. If you miss the ball you'll get hit, & no free walk. You better shut up until you try it.
townsvillefield 4 months ago
@townsvillefield i watched the video you wanted me to and both of the baseball players did really really well considering they had never played before. give a cricketer a baseball bat against a professional pitcher and i will gaurantee you he never hits a ball solidly
mothahen123 5 months ago
@mothahen123 They MISSED the first 3 balls! Against friendly bowling!
That is not doing really well.
And they even said themselves, they now have a new appreciation for the game!
Go & watch it again!
I think you need a hearing aid, & glasses!
There are australians playing MLB right now that grew up with cricket!
You've got it all wrong, & have been fooled by the media.
townsvillefield 5 months ago
@townsvillefield of course they missed the first three! they'd never played the sport before. find a video of cricketers (who've never played baseball before) succeeding against a professional baseball pitcher and i'll start to believe you. i have an appreciation for the game too. it's damn hard, but not as hard as baseball
mothahen123 5 months ago
@mothahen123 HAVE A LOOK AT VIDEO OF AUSTRALIANS PLAYING BASEBALL RIGHT NOW!
i THINK YOU'LL FIND THEY ARE HITTING THEM, & GETTING PAID FOR IT!
THEY WOULD HAVE PLAYED CRICKET AT SCHOOL LIKE EVERY AUSSIE!
WHY AM I RREPEATING MYSELF?
townsvillefield 5 months ago
@mothahen123 maybe you don't realise it, but missing 3 balls in cricket is a fail. you can get out on the first ball!
But yeah, whatever mate, you know everything...
townsvillefield 5 months ago
@townsvillefield you're not getting my point. of course they were bad at first but progressively got better. that's the way sports work. as i said before, i GUARANTEE you that a cricketer could not step in the batter's box and make contact off a professional pitcher on his first three tries.
mothahen123 5 months ago
@mothahen123 A full toss pitch in cricket is the easiest ball to hit.
a cricketer must have a lot of different bat strokes to be successful.
a baseball swing is one of them.
those baseballers had no control over where they were hitting, which is the main part of cricket batting.
at least a cricketer playing baseball would get a few chances.
in cricket you only get one.
all you blokes are missing the point
townsvillefield 5 months ago
@MrHamster111 K....well to be fair these baseball pitchers were nobodies. And also I dont think it was trying to say one was physically better than the other just that the style of throwing in both sports creates differences in speed.
Also why is everyone whining so much about this? It just looks like crappy advertisement for some nothing nowhere college called Chapman University.
zzyzx0788 3 months ago
@MrHamster111 i get what you are sayin but why would ypu need to impair the baseball player by throwing in a motion that he doen't know. Why don't we get the cricket players to bend their arms and then we will see. And btw I'll just add on that it is way easier to hit a cricket ball than a baseball. The surface area on a cricketr pattle is significantly larger than a baseball bats. Also in cricket you watch on the floor and look at the bounce to hit it, in baseball it is direct.
iR0NMike4 3 months ago
@iR0NMike4 "You watch on the floor and look at the bounce"!!!!??? NO, YOU DO NOT!! How are you going to deal with a full length ball or even a yorker which is aimed at your ankles.
Someone's been watching that sports science rubbish, obviously.....
lookyew 3 months ago
@lookyew well all i am saying is that a cricket pattle has like a 32 inces squared hitting surface and a baseball bat has like a 5 inch squared hitting surface - do the math! and what is wrong? you couldn't rebutle my first point?
iR0NMike4 3 months ago
@iR0NMike4 I'd agree that actually making contact in baseball is probably going to be harder, but in cricket you gotta make the ball do much more, and stay out there far longer with fewer chances....Once you're out that's it for the day. The sweet spot on a cricket bat is only about four inches square & central, and unless you find it you ain't gonna be able to control the ball & you won't last long. Just making contact ain't enough when you are surrounded in all directions by fielders
lookyew 3 months ago
@lookyew yea but it is clearly easier cricket players have a 360 degree hitting area and baseball players only have a 90 degree one, do the math
iR0NMike4 3 months ago
@iR0NMike In England we say maths....And here's some for you;- Straight drive, on drive, off drive, cover drive, square drive, cut, square cut, late cut, pull, hook, leg glance, sweep, reverse sweep....And those are just the attacking strokes
How many strokes does a baseball batter have?....He surely doesn't need many as he uses the same swing each time and only needs to hit the ball out in front of him
Think about it son.....It ain't rocket science......Just basic Maths
lookyew 3 months ago
@lookyew First of all I ain't your son!!!! Second baseball players have ma couple swings: Two srike protective swing, power(homerun swing) , inside out swing on outside pitches, just making contact to move the runners over swing) and oh yea! their normal preffered swing, cricket has more because in baseball these ones are hard enough to master. Think about it mam'
iR0NMike4 3 months ago
@iR0NMike4 Sorry kid....All the shots you mentioned are just variations of the same swing. In cricket each shot requires a unique swing and body position, and the batsman has to pick up what kind of bowl it is as soon as the ball leaves the bowlers hand. By time it hits the ground he needs to be in the correct position and already half way through his stroke.
Footwork is far more important in cricket than baseball.....Back foot for short pitch & front foot for full pitch...And that's a STRIDE
lookyew 3 months ago
@lookyew In baseball you aren't surrounded on all sides by fielders but you can only hit the ball in fair ground. The sweet spot on a baseball bat is smaller.
TKDLION 2 months ago
@TKDLION ....Fair ground being in front of you in a 90 degree arc. Certainly not easy but consider that cricket batsman must hit the ball with accuracy into areas that are out of their vision, They do these by memorisng
lookyew 2 months ago
@lookyew Do they have to hit into areas out of vision or is it optional?
TKDLION 2 months ago
@iR0NMike4 Maths genius. Can't spell though...
lazaglider 3 months ago
@lazaglider what you mean maths?
iR0NMike4 3 months ago
@MrHamster111 watch?v=vYMhT_wgBwE&feature=related just watch this, baseball hitting is much more difficult
iR0NMike4 3 months ago
@iR0NMike4 Why aren't you over at this video which shows MLB players struggling to even hit the first 3 balls & then lamely itting the rest into the same area everytime. The cricket players are weak USA team players too.LOL!
watch?v=5TspIzewltg&feature=related
townsvillefield 3 months ago
@townsvillefield obviously they wouldnt be able to hit the first three balls. the sport is much different than baseball incuding the equipment which takes getting used to. Your telling me that you expect to walk and not fall down your first three steps as a baby??? Just cricketeers that have neber played baseball suck even worse at baseball than baseball pros twhom have never played cricket suck at cricket, therefore making baseball more difficult
iR0NMike4 3 months ago
@iR0NMike4 A cricket batsman in full flow resembles a martial artist with a sword........A baseball batter resembles a woodsman with an axe
I know which I'd rather watch....
lookyew 3 months ago
@lookyew a cricket batman resembles a a martail artist my ass. A baseball player resembles a smart person because he or she chose the right sport over cricket, baseball
iR0NMike4 3 months ago
@iR0NMike4 A cricket bat is often referred to as a blade because the stroke play resembles swordplay
"A baseball player resembles a mart person because he chose the right sport over cricket"....Really? I'd say it's far more likely that there was very little choice involved...It's just the sport that he grew up with...Same would be true for the cricketer.....And the same for you and I...
lookyew 3 months ago
@iR0NMike4 "obviously they wouldnt be able to hit the first three balls. the sport is much different than baseball incuding the equipment which takes getting used to"......This is your comment, and one which I entirely agree with....Now here's an extract from FOX Sports science Baseball Vs Cricket;- "Mark easily adjusts and crushes the ball"...Doesn't really sound right now does it?....And in light of your excellent comment on this page do you now think that Sports Science test possibly flawed?
lookyew 3 months ago
@lookyew yess I think its flawed because they don't have fair match ups, u much rather see the best of each sport face off but they can't just do that, you seem like a smart guy but i am just saying that baseball is more difficult but cricket is up there with difficult sports
iR0NMike4 3 months ago
@iR0NMike4 The fact that they've paired up a MLB pro with an amateur from a non-cricket playing country is careless, but to then label said amateur as an "international star" is downright dishonest and misleading....And it goes on..
I'm not very smart at all, it's just that your argument is weak and therefore easy to pick off.
You need to research your facts more & not just fall back on your emotions. Just cos you love baseball doesn't mean cricket is weaker....Just means you love baseball..
lookyew 3 months ago
@iR0NMike4 Obviously???
I thought it would be easy for a pro MLB player to hit a slow bowled cricket ball with a "big paddle"
I mean, that's what you uneducated morons say all the time.
There are plenty of people from cricket playing nations playing MLB.
Good cricket players can make big money. Why isn't world cricket inundated with baseball players that missed a pro MLB career because a better foreign player took their job?
Money Talks, & bullshit walks!
townsvillefield 3 months ago
@townsvillefield i am actually educated by the way and now you are bringing race into it, wow!!! thats how you know you lost an arguement hands down and insulting the other person too wow you lost goodbye
iR0NMike4 3 months ago
@iR0NMike4 When did I bring race into the argument? Is it because I said "foreign player"?
You really are deluded!
townsvillefield 3 months ago
@iR0NMike4 If you're educated "ironmike", try spelling "argument" properly, & use punctuation.
I don't want to insult you, but you won't see reason.
townsvillefield 3 months ago
kis chutiye shukla abcd ko khada kiya hai,,,,use less
prathameshfall09 6 months ago
what the fuck was that?
lancevandevyver 6 months ago
global "intra-pan-er-shup" week
skatevans99 6 months ago
I want them to get Shoaib Akhtar, Shaun Tait, Dale Styen, Andrew Flintoff, Lasith Malinga and see who bowls faster
Lazyplaye 6 months ago
@Lazyplaye that woudn't make sense. They are pros. This pitcher is a college kid. Just like those skinny Indians...
XPil3s 6 months ago
@XPil3s But this university has not done any research at all into cricket bowlers, there are 6 types of bowlers:
Spin: 40-55mph
Slow: 55-60mph
Medium: 60-70mph
Medium fast: 70-80 mph
Fast medium: 80-90mph
Fast: 90-100 mph
These guys are spin bowlers and aren't even bowling like a cricket bowler would, you go to any club and see how they bowl and it's nothing like they do at all, there's no run up and it's actually illigal to bowl like that in cricket cause it's basically chucking.
Lazyplaye 6 months ago
@XPil3s You're right, It wouldn't make sense to bring in top class pros, but they should at least find people who know how to actually bowl. I think those Indian guys most have been confused & thought they were supposed to be pitching, as in baseball. Cricket bowling is an entirely different technique in which the arm must be kept straight, windmill style, and a run up is essential to put pace on the ball. What made me laugh was the presenter claiming that Chapman wasn't just any old university
lookyew 6 months ago
wait what they had cricket ballers throw baseball pitches of course they're slower they don't know how to do it
ProffesorChaosesFile 6 months ago
cricket is for fags
UserName0043 6 months ago
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lookyew 7 months ago
those guys were not even a street cricketers
akhilraaj 7 months ago
Big ass motherfucker only throwing high 80s?
cornflakes510 7 months ago
wait how did cricket players get such an ego about their sport? look, i know ur sport doesnt get a tons of coverage everywhere but, dont bash baseball in attempt to gain more respect. we know its a 'misrepresentation', look at those kids r u kidding? they were wearing jeans and weighed a buck 60. anybody whos not retarded or on their high horse of cricket can see these sports are extremely similar.
514millertime 7 months ago
@514millertime Cricket is the second most popular sport in the world, mate.....Plenty of coverage there...
Personally I'm not trying to bash baseball; In fact I have total respect for the sport, but I can understand why some cricket fans are getting irate as this isn't the only bullshit comparison around...and we're getting tired of it..
IMO the two sports are extremely dissimilar, and require very different approaches & techniques...Baseball having evolved from the English game of Rounders..,,
lookyew 7 months ago
@514millertime They are somewhat similar in that they require hand eye coordination and involve a bat and ball. Similarity stops there as the goals (baseball is more defensive as runs scored are less) with very different tactics required.
mahgop22 7 months ago
@mahgop22 mate, these are the only two sports that require a bat and ball. They're more closely related to one another than any other sport...They're similar. This isn't even an argument man. If they are not similar to each other than what sport are they each differently similar too
514millertime 6 months ago
@514millertime To compare sport, you need to access mental ability and strategies and what is required by the players. Just the fact that ball and bat is involved does not go beyond hand eye coordination (say tennis has the same thing or racquetball). What you are trying to achieve is entirely different in cricket and baseball. Baseball does not allow longer examination of batsmen, but has pitcher pitching for a long time, cricket is reverse (though not to the same extent).
mahgop22 5 months ago
@mahgop22 thats your point as to how they arent similar?? omg mate seriously. w.e, your butt holes obviously tight about something. exemplifying my first point that once u offend a cricket player, many of them just bash baseball and go on about how unique and better it is. go play cricket, y wld u even talk about baseball in the first palce. u guys gotta relaize that u dont work any crazy amount harder, u dont put in a crazy more amount of time, than anyone, doing ANYthing in this world.
514millertime 4 months ago
@514millertime Obviously you are not getting my point. did you see me talking about who works harder!!! Just tactics and requirement. Most people on this site would not have commented on baseball if it was not for the stupid attempts made by baseball players to show cricket in poor light through comparison with non-players (Fox one included). It is this stupidity which offends most of the posters here. It is personal preference and which game u grew up with that u may support.
mahgop22 4 months ago
@mahgop22 im seriously fucking done with youtube. we're pretty much saying bs along the same lines. like the fucking bickering dude shutttt upppp, its not even an agrugment anymore, its like a spouting. final note though: u cannot be mad at baseball players for showing up cricket players, when the cricket players started the whole damn thing. final final note: get fucked
514millertime 4 months ago
@514millertime My what a tantrum......Are you going to charge the mound now?
lookyew 4 months ago
@lookyew ...good oneee..
514millertime 4 months ago
@514millertime The difference is...YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
You've never played real cricket, so you wouldn't fucking know, you fool!
We're right & you're wrong, you pig headed cunt!
Fuck you! YOU GET FUCKED!
That's the truth & the final note..dickhead!
townsvillefield 4 months ago
@townsvillefield k
514millertime 4 months ago
That proved that university is a waste of time
Zyphonz 7 months ago 14
cricketers can bowl 101mph with a heavier ball!
townsvillefield 7 months ago
@townsvillefield pitchers dont get a faggy running start
AwstruckByMinecraft 7 months ago
@AwstruckByMinecraft pitchers need to bend their faggy elbows, & take a faggy step
townsvillefield 7 months ago
@AwstruckByMinecraft You try bowling with a straight arm...windmill style....And then try writing your next comment in Hindi
A run up is essential to gain any pace on the ball.
lookyew 7 months ago
the pitchers can't bowl with run-up....yeah but cricketers atleast they can pitch. CRICKET NEEDS MORE SKILL & FITNESS
rodtorre7 7 months ago
i wanna see them try and bowl a baseball...
JonnyAinsley27 7 months ago 10
@JonnyAinsley27 well they couldn't possibly do worse than the cricketers...
vincentelin 5 months ago
@vincentelin How would you ever know?
americans, & you, would never do a real test.
it's your lack of knowledge that's the problem, not ours....
townsvillefield 5 months ago
@townsvillefield how I would know, my knowledge the problem? the guy throws 3balls 10feet high in a row, not even athlete in his mind to realize he has to make a correction..
vincentelin 5 months ago
@vincentelin That's because they aren't athletes.
Thank you, you just proved my point...
townsvillefield 5 months ago
@vincentelin You really give this nonsense credence?.......You think this has anything at all to do with cricket?
For a start why were they throwing and not bowling?.....You don't know the difference do you, and yet you claim to have played the game.
YOU ARE A LIAR
lookyew 5 months ago