@naturesociety you should read the book. Neither movie has accuracy. Movies are meant to glorify and their was nothing glorified about this war! And Hector was a bad ass, Achilles was too but he had hair, wasn't a giant and he was believed to be evenly matched to Hector.
Was this filmed with a calculator? Anyway , i just watched bits and pieces from "Troy" , especially the battle with Achilles and Hector , and i have to say the difference between the perception of Achilles as a character in "Troy" and this miserable pile of ass raped elephant turds is astonishingly painful. Achilles is not a monster or an animal , he is a man looking for glory , and like it or not this was the way to get glory back in the day. I've seen two cells having better fights than this!!
Why does no one even mention that the center piece of the entire Iliad comes down to "I don't fight that way!" - "I do!"? This is ridiculous! And don't even get me started on the image of the bald (oh no it's not bold I meant although I wish) Achilles who "stands for Agamemnon". He looks like Vin Diesel! This film is a joke and even less deserving to be mentioned along with the Iliad than the Brad Pitt version. At least in that one they had their cast sort of right.
um hector actually challenged one of the great archeans and Ajax volentered just saying and achilles didnt want to fight cause agamemmnon took away brisies which was his "girl friend"
what the fuck hector is being an acutual man who actually fight and Achillies is just a bitch who throws a spear. this movie is to inacurate and just suck everyone is a bitch
@Elxonl in alot of ancient cultures and even with the samurai wich are more modern. they all tried to keep as much a distance in battle for a better survival rate. so in a sense this is more realistic. the actual samurai main weapon is the bow not the sword wich alot of western peopel think. or even some japanese people probably. most spartans and warriors used spears first to keep enemys back and throw alot. swords were usually a last resort type of thing. duels could last minutes to hours.
Despite what people think, i believe they did a good job staying true to the Hector vs. Achilles fight, since it wasn't some huge fight like the movie "Troy" made it out to be, and at least in this version, they actually kill Paris
@zz13x I know, i was just stating apart of why i liked Helen of troy better than the movie Troy. aye, the arrow had the Hydra's blood on it. Paris must of stunk leading up to his death
Hector Hector Hector... this is a battlefield not a drama... when the enemy offers u first through and u could kill their strongest right then and there... do it or be prepared to die, such an idiot.
out of all of the films i have seen and the books i have read that has to be in my mind the most unheroic death of Hektor, " i do not fight that way" sorry but then you choose terms that you will fight to. he was in a dual in which he refused to fight the oponent. homer would be displeased with this part of the film.
I'm not sure if you actually read "The Illiad", but in that, Hector originally ran from Achilles. he was chased by Achilles around the walls of Troy 3 times, before Athena deceived Hector into stopping by appearing as one of his friends claiming that he'd stand side by side with Hector to fight Achilles. In this they portrayed Hector as an honorable warrior. if he would of won by throwing a spear at someone's back, it wouldn't be a real victory.
Brendan Fraser fighting the mummy of Achilles would have made a better idea for a movie then this script,it's ridiculous! It has nothing from the Iliad except the names of the characters,that is where all the resemblence stops...
Menelaus is younger in this movie, in the other versions he was old and fat. He's not very barbaric in this version, hes rather arrogant and rude at times.
@coldlynx I agree with the characters being weak, not much of a nice script actually. But I also think that this is not a war movie, that's why it's called "Helen of Troy", I believe that's the point, putting the story from another point of view, which would be Helen's (in some kind of way) and making it more historical drama than action movie.
@Danyhg92 its between realistic and non. war was very ceremonial bacl then many duels to make decisions and alot of this type of stuff, honor was a big deal back then to most people. unliek today in war for the most part. you also have to consider people were more careful then. sense a minor would could mean death. duels lasted for long periods alot of the time. swords were last resort weapons usualy people preferred spears and shield for throing and the range. battle wise its realistic
@WhiteTheTruth alot of modern peopel seem to think chargeing in head first and swinging like a maniac and blood everywhere is the warrior way, wich in reality that gets you killed in seconds. now without weapons that mgiht work alot but in actual combat calm and being alert is better and when you do strike strike like a lion. just how natures predators hunt. they calm quet and focus there strikes tell the last moment.
@Danyhg92 alot of modern peopel seem to think chargeing in head first and swinging like a maniac and blood everywhere is the warrior way, wich in reality that gets you killed in seconds. now without weapons that mgiht work alot but in actual combat calm and being alert is better and when you do strike strike like a lion. just how natures predators hunt. they calm quet and focus there strikes tell the last moment.
@coldlynx Oh really, so throwing a hissy fit when your girlfriend gets stolen by another guy, crying to your mom, and throwing ANOTHER hissy fit when your boyfriend dies, then crying to moomy again, then... that's not soap opera material?
Agamemnon handed him poisoned spears, Menalaus knew it was wrong to kill Paris under the circumstances, but it doesn't mean he had the right to treat Helen like a whore on auction.
Here Paris loved Helen, to Menelaus she was a prize a thing.
Okay, what. the. fuck???! Achilles was nothing like that in the Illiad. Hell, the illiad was in many ways, mainly about Achilles being the greatest greek warrior of all time! But in this movie they make him a cheap fighting lil bitch. They make Hector out to be weak pussy also, but Paris the strong warrior?? What??! And what about Patrocles getting killed by Hector which drives Achilles to engage him mono y mono? And where's Hector's impenetrable armor?? These problems totally ruined it for me.
Fuck you achilles if he was like that, he is not even worth to remember. i hope he suffered when paris shot him with his bow ( In real he died that way )
Paris looks like a giraffe at 01:21- 01:22 xD And I like the chat scene between him and Menelaos. Another funny thing is the soldier without neck at Menelaos' right side (left side as we see it) at 08:00.
Menelaos's sword was poisoned, so, when he cut Paris with it, Paris had the poison in his blood that weakened him^^ I was confused, too, I wondered why he would fall asleep during a fight =)
i just lost respect for achilles. this actor sucks.
ppzdsade 3 weeks ago
Is this the continue of the movie TROY?
Watdefakkel 1 month ago
"Agamemnon wants Troy, not her, so why are we trying to kill each other????"
Funniest line in this part
igothic 1 month ago
Achilles is portrayed terribly in this..
OmageO 1 month ago
Loool - Hector dies like a pussy!
Mandalander 1 month ago
0:8:00 :D :D
bodmelqart 1 month ago
OMG, is this the broke back mountain movie?
sutchirya 2 months ago
Hector, you imbecile....
daisybell4 4 months ago
This looks like a theatre ^^
dr00di 5 months ago
they made hector seem like a pussy in this movie.....weak ass actors...
DAV1EBOYEE510 5 months ago
@naturesociety you should read the book. Neither movie has accuracy. Movies are meant to glorify and their was nothing glorified about this war! And Hector was a bad ass, Achilles was too but he had hair, wasn't a giant and he was believed to be evenly matched to Hector.
00starlitebrite00 6 months ago
Was this filmed with a calculator? Anyway , i just watched bits and pieces from "Troy" , especially the battle with Achilles and Hector , and i have to say the difference between the perception of Achilles as a character in "Troy" and this miserable pile of ass raped elephant turds is astonishingly painful. Achilles is not a monster or an animal , he is a man looking for glory , and like it or not this was the way to get glory back in the day. I've seen two cells having better fights than this!!
NatureSociety 6 months ago
This is pathetic.
falcodarkzz 6 months ago
what a faggot that achilles its supposed to be a great fight not some lazy spear throwing not even fair fight O_O
MarckMan1000 7 months ago
this movie isn'y good....who the hell made this....fucking retarded...
mariarosable18 7 months ago
this movie is not even CLOSE to the real Troy story!!!
MrSouthpaw365 7 months ago
wtf why r they talking
HanDynasty26349 7 months ago
*Paris goes to fight* Mother seems perfectly fine.
*Hektor goes to fight* Mother: NOT MY FIRST BORN!
favouratism much??
mysticwitch13 7 months ago
he doesn't once mention patroclus? isn't that why he looked to kill hector?
euan777 7 months ago
WTF
aldonkeyz 8 months ago
so fake dammit
Rob4010 9 months ago
This whole scene is awkward.
Laylawantsthisname 9 months ago
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this movie has a good theme
but the fighting is crap
zilliondollakid 10 months ago
that bald bastard
iamphinay 10 months ago 3
"troy" is a lot better than "helen of troy"
ichigokurosaki0007 1 year ago 3
Why does no one even mention that the center piece of the entire Iliad comes down to "I don't fight that way!" - "I do!"? This is ridiculous! And don't even get me started on the image of the bald (oh no it's not bold I meant although I wish) Achilles who "stands for Agamemnon". He looks like Vin Diesel! This film is a joke and even less deserving to be mentioned along with the Iliad than the Brad Pitt version. At least in that one they had their cast sort of right.
bobivd6688 1 year ago
um hector actually challenged one of the great archeans and Ajax volentered just saying and achilles didnt want to fight cause agamemmnon took away brisies which was his "girl friend"
thefamilyname1 1 year ago
um hector actually challenged one of the great archeans and Ajax volentered just saying
thefamilyname1 1 year ago
the bastards have poisoned him and still he's almost winning! he should've won!!!!
Nigelene 1 year ago
Why was Hector so slow to react to the spear?
WanderingProphet 1 year ago
4:05 classic
sarah8244 1 year ago
haha! his sword broke! ..........
i might've let you go. probably not. LOL!!
danniizz18 1 year ago
haha! his sword broke!
danniizz18 1 year ago
this is dumb, nothing like the iliad
sammerrill 1 year ago
Well, Why they don't cut the girl whit a knif, just because they faigth them about the rigth or lefth side?
Iggranados 1 year ago
Well, Why they don't cut the girl whit a knif, just because they faigth them about the rigth or lefth side?
Iggranados 1 year ago
what the fuck hector is being an acutual man who actually fight and Achillies is just a bitch who throws a spear. this movie is to inacurate and just suck everyone is a bitch
Elxonl 1 year ago 3
@Elxonl in alot of ancient cultures and even with the samurai wich are more modern. they all tried to keep as much a distance in battle for a better survival rate. so in a sense this is more realistic. the actual samurai main weapon is the bow not the sword wich alot of western peopel think. or even some japanese people probably. most spartans and warriors used spears first to keep enemys back and throw alot. swords were usually a last resort type of thing. duels could last minutes to hours.
WhiteTheTruth 1 year ago
Achilles is the MAN!
DoubleGlock45 1 year ago
@ShowYourWorking it must have worked REALLY well........lol
DoubleGlock45 1 year ago
this movie is stupid as shit and more inaccurate than TROY
whitethunder2043 1 year ago
why is Achilles fat?
snakesrule111 1 year ago
@snakesrule111 its called muscle
WhiteTheTruth 1 year ago
Dis Paris get stabbed or posion why did suck after the twirl I didn't see blood???? o-O
jamirflyd 1 year ago
OMG!!!!
Hector!!!
I Cant Believe It!
He Was My Favourite :(
PrometheusFlyingSolo 1 year ago
I used to think achilles was cool. Nevermind... Cheater...
mikewj94 1 year ago 2
Menelaus > Paris
oewnaynailf 1 year ago
weew.suspense. they look like kids. the side says"wuhooo' then seconds late th other side cheers aswell.
yeaoneday 1 year ago
gosh. then the sword goes wheck! laughtrip.
yeaoneday 1 year ago
Okay, achilles is a hypocrisy this time. Moans about fighting rabble, then cheats against hector? Nice one lad XD
Blisterdude 1 year ago
wtf achilles had honor, they made him look like a complete looser in this, he had honor and was a fighter who would fight fair
BLAYDZ99 1 year ago 7
Rufus Sewell holds this movie, nothing else is that interesting.
stitchgrl777 1 year ago 13
@stitchgrl777 such a freaking hotty :)
12jamesc 3 months ago
I love how they didn't even mention the fact that Achilles refused to fight for Agamemnon until Patroclus was killed.
NS17 1 year ago 2
@NS17 yes i know and achilles was very upset with agamemnon because of briseis
roxanaphantom 1 year ago
did they put posion on the darts or something? cause he started going all funny after he cut himself.
MrsEdwardCullen2066 1 year ago
Despite what people think, i believe they did a good job staying true to the Hector vs. Achilles fight, since it wasn't some huge fight like the movie "Troy" made it out to be, and at least in this version, they actually kill Paris
Lumadil 1 year ago
@Lumadil paris doesnt die until later. he kills achilles, and then later a friend of heracles kills paris with heracles's bow and poisoned arrows.
zz13x 1 year ago
@zz13x I know, i was just stating apart of why i liked Helen of troy better than the movie Troy. aye, the arrow had the Hydra's blood on it. Paris must of stunk leading up to his death
Lumadil 1 year ago
@lordaltair if he threw it Achilles would still live Achilles weakness is his heel hector does not know
lordnaruto415 1 year ago
@lordnaruto415 in "troy" when achilles and hector fught, hector aimed six times for achilles's heel
95mikster 1 year ago
Wow, each part, Agamemnon just becomes more and more of a fucking bastard. Just sayin.
LuinaeLove 1 year ago
Hector Hector Hector... this is a battlefield not a drama... when the enemy offers u first through and u could kill their strongest right then and there... do it or be prepared to die, such an idiot.
lordaltair 1 year ago
out of all of the films i have seen and the books i have read that has to be in my mind the most unheroic death of Hektor, " i do not fight that way" sorry but then you choose terms that you will fight to. he was in a dual in which he refused to fight the oponent. homer would be displeased with this part of the film.
jibgt6 1 year ago
I'm not sure if you actually read "The Illiad", but in that, Hector originally ran from Achilles. he was chased by Achilles around the walls of Troy 3 times, before Athena deceived Hector into stopping by appearing as one of his friends claiming that he'd stand side by side with Hector to fight Achilles. In this they portrayed Hector as an honorable warrior. if he would of won by throwing a spear at someone's back, it wouldn't be a real victory.
Lumadil 1 year ago
oh God what a movie, grow some balls, you Greek heroes!
Menelaos to Paris: Can u walk?
Soldier: WTF????
ROFL
sailormoonkable 1 year ago
Brendan Fraser fighting the mummy of Achilles would have made a better idea for a movie then this script,it's ridiculous! It has nothing from the Iliad except the names of the characters,that is where all the resemblence stops...
mokechino 1 year ago
4:12
paris is like
is this fool crazy? or pathetic?
helenadagreat 1 year ago
i totally saw that guy at 6:16
it was f-ing funny
joristerstege123 1 year ago
achihlles was not dishonourable in his fights.
easportselite22 1 year ago
Menelaus is younger in this movie, in the other versions he was old and fat. He's not very barbaric in this version, hes rather arrogant and rude at times.
Raysflower 1 year ago
Why can't Archilles at least have hair?
Brightangel001 2 years ago 3
i know right lol
alancoty 1 year ago
Oh, man. they got archilles all wrong.
he's not that cruel ;o
poor hector.. =(
xxLilSweetDevil 2 years ago
Achilles from this movie looks like that big bald giant from that movie Trot, who got killed by Achilles in the opening scene.
Raysflower 1 year ago
I love the guy at 6:16 who is totally like "what the fuck!"
glindasgal 2 years ago
Hector. ]:
allaragallagher 2 years ago
Achilles was such a brutal bastard in this movie
PyroXLord 2 years ago 2
He was brutal, but he is incorrectly depicted in this movie. He was not a skinhead musclehead. He was a far more complex character.
furtherdefinitions 2 years ago 3
@furtherdefinitions fucking agreed
tehkid93 2 years ago
Achilles doesn't seem to have much emotion in this movie. In the old version, and the remake version, Achilles is a rather more good looking fighter.
Raysflower 1 year ago
that was cool the god must be on your side...haha
datsjpimp 2 years ago
why is achilles all fat and overweight too and out of shape.... this version sucks compared to Troy
serkoe 2 years ago 4
0:25 is hilarious. I love how his face just says stop it and then at 0:28 he's like I said stop it.
serkoe 2 years ago
Menelaus was a nice guy. Helen should have just stayed with him.
Acme633 2 years ago 5
ACHILLIES ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Str8 G
padookieking 2 years ago
Achilies is such a heartless bastard in this movie....
wangzikawaii 2 years ago 4
Wow, the fighting is TERRIBLE in this movie.
Samprasisthebest 2 years ago
actually, it's just more realistic than in other movies. that equipment was HEAVY!
dattebayo1993 2 years ago
Well this part of the movie just took a big steaming poop on Homers version of events.
JandTnz 2 years ago 3
I hate Achillies in this version-saw it before I saw Brads-I liked Brads
renai0304 2 years ago 3
In fact this is my favorite part.
They made Hector such a weakling in this movie. In fact they made all the main characters weak in this movie. Except for Agamenon.
This is supposed to be about War. Not some soap opera bullshit.
coldlynx 2 years ago 29
Hector was kind of overrated, in the odessy he did get injured quite alot.
loren1283 2 years ago
@loren1283
Which explains why Troy lost. Their best warrior was injury prone.
coldlynx 2 years ago
@coldlynx I agree with the characters being weak, not much of a nice script actually. But I also think that this is not a war movie, that's why it's called "Helen of Troy", I believe that's the point, putting the story from another point of view, which would be Helen's (in some kind of way) and making it more historical drama than action movie.
Danyhg92 1 year ago
@Danyhg92 its between realistic and non. war was very ceremonial bacl then many duels to make decisions and alot of this type of stuff, honor was a big deal back then to most people. unliek today in war for the most part. you also have to consider people were more careful then. sense a minor would could mean death. duels lasted for long periods alot of the time. swords were last resort weapons usualy people preferred spears and shield for throing and the range. battle wise its realistic
WhiteTheTruth 1 year ago
@WhiteTheTruth alot of modern peopel seem to think chargeing in head first and swinging like a maniac and blood everywhere is the warrior way, wich in reality that gets you killed in seconds. now without weapons that mgiht work alot but in actual combat calm and being alert is better and when you do strike strike like a lion. just how natures predators hunt. they calm quet and focus there strikes tell the last moment.
WhiteTheTruth 1 year ago
@Danyhg92 alot of modern peopel seem to think chargeing in head first and swinging like a maniac and blood everywhere is the warrior way, wich in reality that gets you killed in seconds. now without weapons that mgiht work alot but in actual combat calm and being alert is better and when you do strike strike like a lion. just how natures predators hunt. they calm quet and focus there strikes tell the last moment.
WhiteTheTruth 1 second ago
WhiteTheTruth 1 year ago
@coldlynx Actually, to the ancient Greeks, war and soap opera bullshit are the same thing.
JakobDailes 6 months ago
@JakobDailes That makes no sense?
Are talking about the Greeks being into art, theater, science, philosophy, etc?
What the hell does that have to do with this horribly acted and produced movie?
coldlynx 6 months ago
@coldlynx If you actually read the Greek myths (from the original sources) war is a soap opera to them. Ever read the Iliad?
JakobDailes 6 months ago
@JakobDailes Your an idiot if your trying to compare a "soap opera" to the "Illiad". One of the greatest stories ever written.
coldlynx 6 months ago
@coldlynx Oh really, so throwing a hissy fit when your girlfriend gets stolen by another guy, crying to your mom, and throwing ANOTHER hissy fit when your boyfriend dies, then crying to moomy again, then... that's not soap opera material?
JakobDailes 5 months ago
Agemennon was the best thing in this movie.
Everybody else were a bunch of sissy bitches.
coldlynx 2 years ago 4
I liked achilles when Brad played his role.
silverdakotaable 2 years ago
Agamemnon handed him poisoned spears, Menalaus knew it was wrong to kill Paris under the circumstances, but it doesn't mean he had the right to treat Helen like a whore on auction.
Here Paris loved Helen, to Menelaus she was a prize a thing.
Katgirl1331 2 years ago 7
Hector's honour forces him not to forfeit despite everyone's calls. maneleus should've said something...it's his and paris' problem. ahh
ZZrissa 2 years ago
F*** U, Achilles!
MariaT1016 2 years ago 5
I HATE YOU ACHILLES!!!!!
boomer10rocks 2 years ago 6
"Tell Me, does she ever speak of me?" Awkward!
thesweetestpea777 2 years ago 37
lmaooo thumbs up!
Transane 2 years ago
ya none of this goes with the book. Troy was more accurate than this.
LatinPistol07 2 years ago
so menelaus really loved helen after all. andit wasnt lust he felt but love
khari2kimie 2 years ago
u couldnt tell it from the begging ooo wow
XXtokieXX 2 years ago
is archillis the bald guy by any chance.
And wtf? another killing.
TeenageTragedyx 2 years ago
Okay, what. the. fuck???! Achilles was nothing like that in the Illiad. Hell, the illiad was in many ways, mainly about Achilles being the greatest greek warrior of all time! But in this movie they make him a cheap fighting lil bitch. They make Hector out to be weak pussy also, but Paris the strong warrior?? What??! And what about Patrocles getting killed by Hector which drives Achilles to engage him mono y mono? And where's Hector's impenetrable armor?? These problems totally ruined it for me.
doublemachete 2 years ago 3
man achillies was not fucked this movie is troy with brad pitt shows better facks dont belive this shit
barsyha 2 years ago
men and there testostarone
qetuoa13579 2 years ago 6
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Women and their weakness.
donniedarko66699 2 years ago
ha Paris has no testostarone, he's more of a female than Helen is. I mean if he can't fight for her than he doesn't deserve her.
moonsoonmenu 2 years ago 5
Paris was poisoned - this is why he couldnt fight!
MAL2BASIC 2 years ago 2
i agree at first i was on paris' side. but after this fight, im starting to like menelaus' more.
khari2kimie 2 years ago 3
Fuck you achilles if he was like that, he is not even worth to remember. i hope he suffered when paris shot him with his bow ( In real he died that way )
nickos112 2 years ago 2
this is stupid why are the greeks reported as the bad guys? paris and the trojans are the bad guys here!
smoke0imix0god 2 years ago
i agree
survivor686 2 years ago
i dont fight that way
i do!
themachinegunn 2 years ago 2
I hate Achilles in this movie!
stralbem 2 years ago 5
brad pitt makes a better achilles ( no homo)
zidanedart 2 years ago 6
agree.
stralbem 2 years ago
achilles = the most blood thirsty badass of the trojan time
cantonsveryfinest 2 years ago 6
dont forget he is bisexual :} im not hating on that
zidanedart 2 years ago
Paris looks like a giraffe at 01:21- 01:22 xD And I like the chat scene between him and Menelaos. Another funny thing is the soldier without neck at Menelaos' right side (left side as we see it) at 08:00.
Kotlettbengt 3 years ago
rofl
Pritayyy 2 years ago 2
Agamemnon uses poison?
SO UNFAIR!!
peter11ss 3 years ago 3
i think paris should have died because he wouldn't want someone stealing his wife lol
lilly032 3 years ago
...its his wife..but they are not really inlove... true love is paris and helen
zishhyles09 2 years ago
I know right lol
lilly032 2 years ago
menelaos is a nice guy but has a bad influence from his brother.
his brother is greedy for power
and achilles is just an asshole
pimpinhoes123456 3 years ago 9
well in the movie troy brad pitt was hot lol
lilly032 3 years ago 3
oh i know!! achilles was awesome in troy!! here he is just creepy....lol
TheTwilightMoon 2 years ago 3
i know right lol
lilly032 2 years ago
what was up with paris' arm? it was only a cut..
satansxicklexhelper 3 years ago
Menelaos's sword was poisoned, so, when he cut Paris with it, Paris had the poison in his blood that weakened him^^ I was confused, too, I wondered why he would fall asleep during a fight =)
SimbaNala007 3 years ago 3
spear..not sword...:)
duhlikeicare 2 years ago
the end of the javelin has poison
zishhyles09 2 years ago
it was poisoned...:)
duhlikeicare 2 years ago
the extra at 6:16 "oh come on now!" ROFL!!! xD
MuadDib27 3 years ago 2