but they're probably using "David" to reduce confusion as Delta Air Lines don't usually fly into Concourse D. You are correct. Concourse D houses both Delta and Airtran departures. People would not get off for airtran departures because they hear the word Delta.
@3caldwell Exactly, though some Delta flights do fly into Concourse D. I do recall getting off a Delta Connection flight from White Plains, New York, at Concourse D.
@3caldwell Exactly, though some Delta flights do fly into Concourse D. I do recall getting off a Delta Connection flight from White Plains, New York, at Concourse D.
@3caldwell They use David to avoid confusion because other airlines do utilize Concourse D. This is similar to how Atlanta Airport Ground Control operates. Except for the tower they replace Delta with Dixie whenever they are referring to the D Concourse or D taxiways. If you pull the FAA map for Atlanta, you can see Dixie listed.
@Somac2006 Yes, I did once fly Delta Connection into Concourse D and saw other airlines. I feel like David or Dixie should replace Delta as D in NATO Phonetic Alphabet since there is a Delta Air Lines and there can be some confusion involved. Like "Taxiway Delta" is really Taxiway D but people can think it's only for Delta planes.
I remember riding this for the first time last summer when 26 students from GSU and me were flying to Mexico for study abroad -- it was awesome. I'm a 26 year old man and I was like, "Weeee!" as if I were a kid. Sad, I know.
There was one little flaw when you said that Delta Airlines don't fly into concourse D. When I had a flight to Memphis using Delta, I flew out of concourse D.
@797fan Yes I realized as I actually flew into Concourse D via Delta Connection from White Plains, NY a month after I took this video. As a New Jersey residents, I have connected flights in Atlanta several times.
@797fan not to mention I did make a little "correction" using Annotations. Plus, at the time the video was taken, Memphis to Atlanta flights were operated by Northwest Airlines before merging with Delta.
they did it that way to avoid confusion... it says D as in David instead of Delta so ppl wont assume that concourse D is only for Delta travelers... yes i work @ the airport here in Atlanta
@popimp2007 yep, the first time I have been to Atlanta Airport, I did not even know the NATO Phonetic Alphabet, I just thought that "C as in Charlie" or "D as in David" were just random examples of names that start with certain letter.
@MegaBasTur1 Well excuse me?? Will you always make up retarded assumptions about me? If you are bound to post a retarded comment, don't say anything at all.
"Delta" is not as common of a word as "David". I worked as an emegency dispatcher in the 70's and we always used "David" to exemplify the letter "D". Who, except in the military, commonly uses the word Delta? Perhaps it's different in other countries. Nothing odd here, though.
it's the same reason why Taxiway "Delta" at ATL is referred to as Taxiway "Dixie" and not Taxiway "Delta". Delta's large presence in ATL does warrant a need for a few changes to not confuse the average traveller and confuse pilots, ATC, among others.
Well, that´s weird, I was there, and never paid attention to that....jaja, as in Charlie, that´s funny. Next tiem I go there, I´ll ask and give you an answer.....I know a person to ask......
The intercom thing in the train uses NATO Phonetic Alphabet. However, They're likely to use "David" instead of "Delta" for Concourse D to avoid confusion...I even answered my own question.
Also to answer your question about why they use names....... some of the older APM cars B sounds like C sounds like D sounds like E........... especially B and D. We programmed these cars about 3 years ago because the customer, DOA, had complaints of passengers being confused about what concourse they were at.
If anybody were to stay on that train past concourse E is thery any chance that they could 1) get caught and get in trouble, or 2) that the train would park at a side track and shutdown and the person would be stuck indefinitely?
You're right...but for Concourse D, it's mostly Delta Connection. On August 29, 2008, I flew from Westchester County Airport in White Plains, NY, to Atlanta, on Delta Connection's Atlantic Southeast Airlines and got off the plane at Concourse D.
You know, I liked to do something similar as a kid. I remember whenever I went to Newark International Airport (now known as Newark Liberty International Airport), I took a ride in the airport train there, which is called the AirTrain.
ATL uses the standard "Aviation Alphabet" for all the concourses except for D, because announcing "D as in Delta" would confuse a lot of passengers into thinking that Concourse D is the "Delta" terminal i.e. where their Delta flight would depart from.
This is the same reason why Air Traffic Control around ATL uses "Dixie" for D, rather than the standard "Delta". There are so many Delta flights that this would be confusing even to pilots...
well u answered ur own question :) they are doing it so people from other countries that do not speak english well can still understand.. or atleast make an effort to. That and like you said since delta is an airline that could get confusing.
Yes, of course, we know what concourse the train is approaching. Like my buddy murjax said, what is the point of this? Why not just the letter? Maybe they're saying the Phonetic Alphabet (except for D, where they say David), for people who are stupid enough to not know what concourse is next.
That is correct. Atlanta has many international destinations which depart/arrive into Concourse E. It of course have many domestic destinations as well. It's the world's busiest airport. Back in summer 2007 I remember traveling from New York's JFK Airport to Atlanta to Incheon, South Korea.
NOTE: Future comments on this video will need to be approved, due to the fact that I got vulgar, name-calling, comments within this video by more than one user within a few hours. (ex: turnclockwise calling me an idiot, bagpiper516 criticizing the way I talk)
if you shot this yourself you should know how loud this PA is.
when this train is full it gets really loud and especailly this airport being the world's busiest airport with foreign nationals, it gets confusing easily.
they've done studies and surveys and they show that the Phonetic Alphabet grabs more attention than just saying A, B, C..
the reason they use David instead of Delta is because of Delta Airlines.
I know that they use David because of Delta is an airline, after thinking myself, as well as looking at the Wikipedia page about this train. And don't call me an idiot.
Yes, that is correct. "D as in David" is used to reduce confusion. For the same reason, Dixie (instead of Delta) is used by Air Traffic Control in Atlanta.
The announcement system is using Phonetic Alphabet to describe each concourse so that people could know more clearly what letter they mean, but I was surprised when they said "David" instead of the correct "Delta" but I think they're trying to reduce confusion. Search "Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport Automated People Mover" on Wikipedia.
but they're probably using "David" to reduce confusion as Delta Air Lines don't usually fly into Concourse D. You are correct. Concourse D houses both Delta and Airtran departures. People would not get off for airtran departures because they hear the word Delta.
3caldwell 5 months ago
@3caldwell Exactly, though some Delta flights do fly into Concourse D. I do recall getting off a Delta Connection flight from White Plains, New York, at Concourse D.
NHRHS2010 5 months ago
@3caldwell Exactly, though some Delta flights do fly into Concourse D. I do recall getting off a Delta Connection flight from White Plains, New York, at Concourse D.
NHRHS2010 5 months ago
@3caldwell They use David to avoid confusion because other airlines do utilize Concourse D. This is similar to how Atlanta Airport Ground Control operates. Except for the tower they replace Delta with Dixie whenever they are referring to the D Concourse or D taxiways. If you pull the FAA map for Atlanta, you can see Dixie listed.
Somac2006 4 months ago
@Somac2006 Yes, I did once fly Delta Connection into Concourse D and saw other airlines. I feel like David or Dixie should replace Delta as D in NATO Phonetic Alphabet since there is a Delta Air Lines and there can be some confusion involved. Like "Taxiway Delta" is really Taxiway D but people can think it's only for Delta planes.
NHRHS2010 4 months ago
I remember riding this for the first time last summer when 26 students from GSU and me were flying to Mexico for study abroad -- it was awesome. I'm a 26 year old man and I was like, "Weeee!" as if I were a kid. Sad, I know.
CosmicGrounds 8 months ago
In the end does it REALLY matter?
vortexbf43 10 months ago
@vortexbf43 What are you talking about? Which specific part do you mean?
NHRHS2010 10 months ago
There was one little flaw when you said that Delta Airlines don't fly into concourse D. When I had a flight to Memphis using Delta, I flew out of concourse D.
797fan 1 year ago
@797fan Yes I realized as I actually flew into Concourse D via Delta Connection from White Plains, NY a month after I took this video. As a New Jersey residents, I have connected flights in Atlanta several times.
NHRHS2010 1 year ago
@797fan not to mention I did make a little "correction" using Annotations. Plus, at the time the video was taken, Memphis to Atlanta flights were operated by Northwest Airlines before merging with Delta.
NHRHS2010 1 year ago
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MrDL177 1 year ago
they did it that way to avoid confusion... it says D as in David instead of Delta so ppl wont assume that concourse D is only for Delta travelers... yes i work @ the airport here in Atlanta
popimp2007 1 year ago
@popimp2007 yep, the first time I have been to Atlanta Airport, I did not even know the NATO Phonetic Alphabet, I just thought that "C as in Charlie" or "D as in David" were just random examples of names that start with certain letter.
NHRHS2010 1 year ago
@MegaBasTur1 Well excuse me?? Will you always make up retarded assumptions about me? If you are bound to post a retarded comment, don't say anything at all.
NHRHS2010 1 year ago
dude, the black guy from :42-:44 gave you a bad look! Everyone thought you were annoying!
VerbalColdWar69 1 year ago
"Delta" is not as common of a word as "David". I worked as an emegency dispatcher in the 70's and we always used "David" to exemplify the letter "D". Who, except in the military, commonly uses the word Delta? Perhaps it's different in other countries. Nothing odd here, though.
anothertominohio 1 year ago
You tool, there is no conspiracy. Now you have your 15 secs of fame.
fortheloveofmuscle 1 year ago
really who the hell cares about the Atlanta airport or any airport for that matter. what a boring life people have....
dianedalton1 2 years ago
it's the same reason why Taxiway "Delta" at ATL is referred to as Taxiway "Dixie" and not Taxiway "Delta". Delta's large presence in ATL does warrant a need for a few changes to not confuse the average traveller and confuse pilots, ATC, among others.
pjc858 2 years ago
Well, that´s weird, I was there, and never paid attention to that....jaja, as in Charlie, that´s funny. Next tiem I go there, I´ll ask and give you an answer.....I know a person to ask......
alefn91 2 years ago
The intercom thing in the train uses NATO Phonetic Alphabet. However, They're likely to use "David" instead of "Delta" for Concourse D to avoid confusion...I even answered my own question.
NHRHS2010 2 years ago
when i was in that train it freaked me out!
ainsley1197 2 years ago
What freaked you out in the train
?
NHRHS2010 2 years ago
Well next time you can just walk. I've walked all the way from the main terminal to the farthest point (the International Terminal) many times.
droadtrip 2 years ago
@droadtrip How many miles is the metro from A to E station. I was there and the Metro was pretty fast .
Misstorys 1 year ago
lol, yes to avoid confussion i would say:D
ansettaddict123 3 years ago
Also to answer your question about why they use names....... some of the older APM cars B sounds like C sounds like D sounds like E........... especially B and D. We programmed these cars about 3 years ago because the customer, DOA, had complaints of passengers being confused about what concourse they were at.
ShadowGhost76 3 years ago
If anybody were to stay on that train past concourse E is thery any chance that they could 1) get caught and get in trouble, or 2) that the train would park at a side track and shutdown and the person would be stuck indefinitely?
elevatorgeek1234 2 years ago
at Concourse E, the train is stopped for a while until EVERYONE gets off. And then it receives new passengers and reverses direction.
NHRHS2010 2 years ago
BTW....Delta has gates at every ATL concourse including Concourse D :)
ShadowGhost76 3 years ago
You're right...but for Concourse D, it's mostly Delta Connection. On August 29, 2008, I flew from Westchester County Airport in White Plains, NY, to Atlanta, on Delta Connection's Atlantic Southeast Airlines and got off the plane at Concourse D.
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
I loved to ride this train as a kid when I flew through this airport.
tedfreeway 3 years ago
You know, I liked to do something similar as a kid. I remember whenever I went to Newark International Airport (now known as Newark Liberty International Airport), I took a ride in the airport train there, which is called the AirTrain.
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
i aint neva seen dat shit at da airport
atownkd 3 years ago
huh?
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
dat shit aint at da airport
atownkd 3 years ago
This IS at Atlanta Airport. Look more carefully, or it not have existed when you were there
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
ATL uses the standard "Aviation Alphabet" for all the concourses except for D, because announcing "D as in Delta" would confuse a lot of passengers into thinking that Concourse D is the "Delta" terminal i.e. where their Delta flight would depart from.
This is the same reason why Air Traffic Control around ATL uses "Dixie" for D, rather than the standard "Delta". There are so many Delta flights that this would be confusing even to pilots...
msteinfeld16 3 years ago
Yes, I knew that, Atlanta area seems like to have a lot of aviation going on.
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
well u answered ur own question :) they are doing it so people from other countries that do not speak english well can still understand.. or atleast make an effort to. That and like you said since delta is an airline that could get confusing.
Kopihucky 3 years ago
What I'm actually wondering is that whoever created the NATO Phonetic alphabet, why would they use an airline name for D.
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
Who cares what they call it. You know what letter they're announcing right?
2shibas 3 years ago
Yes, of course, we know what concourse the train is approaching. Like my buddy murjax said, what is the point of this? Why not just the letter? Maybe they're saying the Phonetic Alphabet (except for D, where they say David), for people who are stupid enough to not know what concourse is next.
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
Don't forget not everyone speaks english and this is an INTERNATIONAL airport.
Kopihucky 3 years ago
That is correct. Atlanta has many international destinations which depart/arrive into Concourse E. It of course have many domestic destinations as well. It's the world's busiest airport. Back in summer 2007 I remember traveling from New York's JFK Airport to Atlanta to Incheon, South Korea.
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
NOTE: Future comments on this video will need to be approved, due to the fact that I got vulgar, name-calling, comments within this video by more than one user within a few hours. (ex: turnclockwise calling me an idiot, bagpiper516 criticizing the way I talk)
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
but this is getting off topic. This video is about the automated train at Atlanta Airport.
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
I love the odd looks you get.
bagpiper516 3 years ago
what do you mean by "odd looks"?
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
The old couple sitting there as you talk to yourself like a psychopath while holding your camera.
bagpiper516 3 years ago
if you shot this yourself you should know how loud this PA is.
when this train is full it gets really loud and especailly this airport being the world's busiest airport with foreign nationals, it gets confusing easily.
they've done studies and surveys and they show that the Phonetic Alphabet grabs more attention than just saying A, B, C..
the reason they use David instead of Delta is because of Delta Airlines.
you cannot use airlines' name in PA.
do your research first idiot.
turnclockwise 3 years ago
I know that they use David because of Delta is an airline, after thinking myself, as well as looking at the Wikipedia page about this train. And don't call me an idiot.
NHRHS2010 3 years ago
Yes, that is correct. "D as in David" is used to reduce confusion. For the same reason, Dixie (instead of Delta) is used by Air Traffic Control in Atlanta.
luckyeye13 3 years ago
Wow, that's incredibly stupid. All you have to do is have a loud clear announcement system. You certainly don't need this.
murjax 3 years ago
The announcement system is using Phonetic Alphabet to describe each concourse so that people could know more clearly what letter they mean, but I was surprised when they said "David" instead of the correct "Delta" but I think they're trying to reduce confusion. Search "Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport Automated People Mover" on Wikipedia.
NHRHS2010 3 years ago