Trinity Debate Recap!

[JizlamSucks]

You are smoking crack you TOOL.

[mattix771]

hey you want to see me prove Jesus is God check my video "Jesus is God"

[Yuratchka]

Check my video "Why Jesus is not the Genuine God."

[muziqmonster]

Exactly, but You need not to get angry. Relaxe and just let the wisdom annihilate the foolishness.

Yahweh is Eternal and can not inherit death nor a fraction of death, for He created eternal life.

Jesus died, yet was ressurrected after death. Thus, he is not Yahweh.

Moses wrote: Yahweh is not human.

JOB wrote: Yahweh is not a man.

Let this be enough.

Jesus said, My Father sent me into the world not to condemn but to heal the sick minded in need of a physician and for the wicked

[billoodean]

its better to be truth full. when truth comes false hood perishes, for false hood is sure to perish.

great judgement ultra black.

[SithMage]

dude, i think its crack rock, not cigar baccy.

if u don't beleive in the historical Yahshua messiYah, how can u beleive any historical figure form that time?

dang! get educated ...

[stcnncomes]

IF you stick to Jesus's words then Jesus also said these words.

Before abraham I AM, Proved Jesus is not a prophet of Islam, cause a prophet who came after abraham cannot be before abraham.

Jesus : IF youve seen me you have seen the father.

Jesus: I and my father are ONE.

Jesus:As you honour the father you should honour the son.

[muziqmonster]

Jesus was created in Yahweh's precise image, therefore Jesus's face looks just like Father Yahweh's face.

That explains that verse.

Paul taught this in HEBREWS. Read .

Jesus and Father Yahweh are one spiritually, not physically. That is what Jesus meant by that teaching.

WE all are ONE with Yahweh. We all are gods and his childern! PSALMS 82:6

Put the puzzle together :)

There is only ONE Yahweh, but many lords and gods.

Stop the errors in your teaching.

[muziqmonster]

Jesus said to the Jews, "You here now have neither seen Yahweh (God ) at any time, nor have you heard his voice!"

It is IMPOSSIBLE for Yahweh to Lie, So this proves that Jesus is not Yahweh. LEARN.

It is impossible for Yahweh father to DIE.

Jesus died and was ressurrected from the DEAD by Father Yahweh himself!

They are two seperate individuals, not the same person.

2 thrones= Two people to sit on them.

24 thrones encircle the two thrones.

that is 26 bodies, yeah?

[muziqmonster]

It is written at Psalms 82:6

"I Yahweh said, you all are gods and all of you are the children of the Most High Yahweh (God)"

That is how you should read that verse from the Hebrew text, before the English translations.

Notice that Yahweh himself declares that WE ARE GODS! That is the Truth.

There is ONE Yahweh, one Jesus, one Adam, one Eve and even one Satan.

Many god sons and goddess daughters. One ALmighty God, but many god children.

LEARN wisdom. Get Understanding :)

[bg4u2]

Luke 2:11, Matt. 28:18, Titus 2:13, 1 John 5:20

I agree with both of your points...

God is not a man...He is a Spirit (invisible)

God is not the son of man (flesh producing flesh).....but was revealed in the flesh (son of man). (Is. 9:6)

Do you believe the words of Jesus? When you see Him you have seen the Father.

The Apostles did not think Paul was in contradiction of Jesus....Ive heard these arguments....and here is Peters response (2 Pet 3:15-16)

[bg4u2]

John 5:18 & 23, 10:33, 14:9

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Here is what God says...

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

The Father was God (Spirit) and revealed Himself in the Son (Flesh).....so yes, the Father is greater than the Son....and revealed thru the Son.

[Gfingers08]

Khalid and Rex were outclassed by Sam.

Not even in the same league.

[bg4u2]

Here is a problem for Muslims....

They believe Jesus was one of God's good Prophets, and not God. However, Jesus stated that He was God....would a good prophet lie (especially to the extent of claiming to be God)? Thus Jusus is ever a bad prophet or God. Everyone can decide that for themselves....but to claim He was a good prophet is not a option.

[stcnncomes]

If Jesus says allah in Passion of Christ, that means Jesus is allah cause passion of christ is not the complete story of Jesus, as Jesus is also GOD.Read the new testament. Thanks for proving Jesus is GOD even to muslims.

[Sajofi]

Khalid and Rex really smoked Sam... the guy freaked out

[LothairLorraine]

Sam completely smoked both Rex and Rufus.

[LothairLorraine]

I heard the debate too. Sam was completely willing to discuss Trinity, but I think that the Muhammadans need to answer questions too.

[wmbdm]

Islam and Christianity are Both Confused.....BLACK METAL IST KREIG!!

[magik4ucifucan]

quran does not say that jesus(pbuh)was not put on cross it says that he was not crucified

[stcnncomes]

so that means the quran says he was put on the cross but not crucified ? Then who was the other gentleman who was crucified in his place ? And what happened to Jesus ? If allah took Jesus up , why ? and leave muhammad to become dust and bones in medina ?

[seamr05]

The Qur'an states that every soul must taste death.

Jesus will be back for the second coming to kill the anti-christ and testifying that the Profet Muhammed was telling the truth!

[stcnncomes]

stop giving fast ones, my question why didnt Jesus taste death 2000 years ago, do the authours of the quran think we are fools ??These questions cant be answered cause the quran is a false book thats the reason why .

[seamr05]

These questions cant be answered cause the quran is a false book thats the reason why .

most phd in christianity failed to do so when ahmed deedat confronted them...so I dont beleive you!

[stcnncomes]

ahmed deedat LOL mustve asked christians who are not debaters.Can the truth be hidden just because of a few who couldnt answer ?By the way deedat couldnt speak due to paralysis of this throat.

[stcnncomes]

IfJesus mentioned the name of allah it was on the cross, thus proving christianity is true, cause the quran says Jesus was not put on the cross.

[Mahdiarmy]

Jesus saying Allah in Passion of Crist

type this

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[Search4Knowledge]

I agree with you.

[easyonetwothree]

HAhahahhahah nice,, keep it going,,, but heres a site that proves islam true.. w w w.answering-christianity.c o m/ac20.htm#links

[investgateIslam]

good review

[Whitish]

thank u

[hich101]

islam dominates

[mrfiji84]

islam dominates the toilet

[NiceaTrinity]

THEY DIDT THE SAME WITH SHABIR ALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!

this sam shamoun is liar and his friends !!!

[xiaahmad]

yeh when they cant answer they off topic :D

congratulation to bro

REX and Khalid (SWORD OF ALLAH) you guys made us proud

[butterfly2729]

I went onto the 'pastors' page that day and time and there was nothing there ... All I saw was videos portraying the Prophet Isa astagphallah!! ...so I left.

However I can understand that in a debate the oppisition from the Muslim gets mad, angry and uses silly childish games as they know they do not have proof/fact whereas Muslims are calm and state the truth. It has happened to myself many a time on YT!

[jonesr999]

Brett, you're going around picking up old cigar butts and smoking the tobacco in a pipe? Can't you afford cigarettes anymore? Hahahhaaha.

[cfrb]

Thanks for your input, and especially for your honest and unbiased report.

[xiaahmad]

my fav part was when Sword quoted bible and when sam didnt had answers he start abusing and going off topic :)

[iadiedee]

Thank you for the recap. I regret missing it although I probably would have gotten kicked out tool. It would be nice if there was a moderated chat - with neither party hosting - so it would be kept to time limits, topic and no one getting kicked unless they were disruptive to the debaters.

Excellent commentary Brett, thank you.

~*Maryam*~

[YushuaMali]

Also, that stupid Kaffir "islamicdawah"(The atheist who insults Islam here on youtube) was there SPAMMING, and so was LothairofLorraine(Something like that) calling us Mohammadans.....they weren't kicked. However, Muslims contributing to the debate were KICKED! Walaahi!!!

[moh77]

and so was american patriot every damn minute would be spamming AMERICA RULES. What idiots, i asked him to challenge me on youtube and he dint have the balls too.

[isomalt60]

Bro YushuaMali, these are the desperate tactics typically employed by sad morons like investigateislam. Block/boot the Muslim or Atheist (as Brett can attest to as he was also kicked by Pastor joe) while giving the Christians a free time commenting.

[xiaahmad]

thanx brett for ur input

not just u but many other ppl were kicked

[xiaahmad]

man it was funny after Swords 12 min sam went on attacking Islam instead of talking on topic :D

Rex and Sword great work bro Mashallah

[BonsaiSky]

I hope someone recorded it!

[YushuaMali]

I believe Drgonboy said that he recored parts of it. The Christians are going to inevitably show the part of the debate when only THEY were speaking. I got such a headache from that.

[drgonboyx]

i am putting the peices together now :)

[isomalt60]

All Hail dragonboyx! Master of technology lol! Bro it would be excellent if you managed inshaallah to put the jigsaw peices together. Of course you would only need to do this on the parts of the debate where the Muslims spoke because I can verify Brett's words, as i was also present, that when Sam Shamoun was speaking there was absolutly NO sound probs, lags or any other tech probs. Fishy? Just a bit. Ps SOA & REX won despite all the BS desperate tactics Sam/Pastor employed.

[YushuaMali]

Also, once Pastor Joe kicked all the Muslims who were speaking out, him and Sam Shamoun went on an Anti-Islamic rant. They were going into Islam, and talking about how demon-posssession of Muhammad. They even were discussing TACTICS to convert Muslims to Christianity! It was of great bias, and Christians should be FORBIDDEN from hosting debates ever again, especially that weasel pastor Joe.

[YushuaMali]

That debate was SOOO bad! Pastor Joe is a pathetic jerk. Sam Shamoun kept switching the topic, going to the Qur'an and hadiths.....yet the topic was the Nicene Creed? And the Pastor didn't say ANYTHING about that, but kicked SOA......that was the worst thing ever.

[BoriChumba]

Yes, I was there & I agree. Pastor Joe even ran an hour of 'pre-discussion' where Sam was allowed to speak 'before' the debate even began which gave him an unfair advantage! He had actually tried to 'change' to subject of the topic too, but to Sam's credit he did say to stick to what had orinionally been agreed upon.....

[BoriChumba]

Bro Rex & Bro SoA both did an exceptional job in explaining. It got very frustrating as it kept cutting out, but when bro SoA was speaking the sound was constantly lagging .. nothing was done to resolve it as it had been when Sam spoke. I left when Pastor Joe was suggesting going into another room, but our brothers did very well under the circumstances.

[BoriChumba]

The problem I have with such debates is that they always seem to be one-sided, the host is always one-sided. I think that even though our brothers did a very great job mashALLAH, in representing we Muslims & Islam, but because it is hosted one-sided the result can be more damaging to Islam than good. We should be careful about this fact!

[BeMyBro]

Thanks Ultrablackkk.

[Mujahid1]

Thanks for the input.

Jazak Allahu khairan UltraBLACKKK.

[hovindlover]

Probably not, because he's probably exaggerating.

[DeedatRocks]

BK left the Cigar

[shakirshuvo]

Salam Alaikum. Ohh man! I missed it big time. Did anybody record it? By the way, good commentary Brett Kean.

[spiritlite]

SalaamAlaikum, Thanks for the video.