Are you a Democrat disappointed in Obama? Hate neocons?
Want to End Obama wars and bank bailouts?
Help us do something about it.
Vote for Ron Paul in the GOP primaries, and kick warmongering neocons out of the race.
Do you really want to run the risk of a Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich for president? Another war? No more Neocons. Show them ALL of america is sick of them.
We welcome your help. Please consider it.
Search "Blue Republican" if you want to know the game plan.
@mrtfotful "Without cheating" just means "within the law" which is still often cheating! Someone ought to shoot you... preemptively! And by the way, if you're any kind of student you should know how to spell and construct a sentence. Does anyone have a spare bullet?
I absolutely love how people (occupy protesters) who babble on to Wall Street and constantly repeating the same tune about why hasn't economists promised anything to the general public just because the US is on the verge of another Great Depression. It's too late for anyone to actually fix the solution of wealthy inequality. It's no wonder such civil disobedience has risen to a higher level than a severla weeks back yet a violent backlash is more likely to occur soon.
@mrtfotful I think some of the occupy protests are more organized then others but what they offer is the possibility of forcing politicians to change something to make the United States, and to a certain extent, Europe and other parts of the world, more economically stable and, over time, more just. That's more than either of us are doing making comments on a Bill Maher video.
@mrtfotful and I'm trying to point out that, based on what you're saying, anything that creates profits is justifiable. if you steal a million dollars and don't get caught, you've gotten a high return on your investment and thus, deserve it. that's, in effect, what the banks have done, only with trillions of dollars.
The number of Perverted and Wicked people attacking the Mormons is a great identifier of how good and true the church is. If not for those wicked agents of evil, I would not have been drawn to the LDS church,, I was so sickened by the decline in morality that I've witnessed since my youth( I'm 40) that I took the time to see why so many are attacking them, I'm happy I did, it changed my life. If you are disturbed by the decline of morality in the world, go to mormon.org or lds.org .
@Bjtafoya7 And what should it be like? You really think economics in 2011/2012 should be takne like a joke and we should just focus on the fun in our lives? Sure we shoud. While all those who are richer than rich continu to puncture this world dry.
Too bad, Americans from both Left, Right, Center are all bunch of lazy, disillusioned working slaves who will continue to follow their religion of cheap consumerism and partisan politics while the big boys who run our lives continue to live large at our expense. The next election cycles will be the same. America will be too busy watching reality TV and spend 10 minutes on electing a new senator, governor or president based on partisan politics, when they ALL are in bed with corp monies.
@mrtfotful so there is nothing we can do to stop subsidizing the rich? in your own lazy and tacit way then, you are a corporate communist. congratulations.
@mrtfotful how exactly did Richard Fuld "make profits"? he didn't "make" anything. he observed the making of "profits" by other people and gave himself huge bonuses when these "profits" turned out to be worthless.
cheating will happen in every system, and many politicians and successful businessmen cheat or game the system in some way.
the difference with what's happening today is that this cheating has become of such a nature that it is destroying the world economy.
@mrtfotful And by the way, in the "real world" you are SUBSIDIZING the profits of the financial sector with 7.7 trillion dollars through the federal reserve. but that's just how things work, isn't it? so we should all just shut up and accept it, right?
@mrtfotful i wish I could be so naive. to believe that in real world capitalism people earn money based on virtue.
you equate turning a profit with economically productive activity. What has the financial sector, which has the highest capital flows in the world, produced that is of any real value to the economy? why did Richard Fuld get millions in compensation for running his company and the US economy into the ground?
Anyone who went to one of those Charlie Scheen concerts are fucKing idiots. Just because you pay for his prostitutes, does'nt mean you get to fuck them. YOU are just trying to live your dream through him. MORON WAKE UP.
Incredibly telling how Maher NEVER talks about the sickening overt and institutionalised racism within Israeli society that is ENTIRELY based upon the sickeningly racist doctrines of the Talmudic Jewish oral law, that says that anyone other than a Jew has absolutely no rights and must be seen as "cattle".
Strange how Bill 'Zionist' Maher never lets his audience know about that!
Maher is a Jewish ethnic supremacist who thinks OK to ethnically cleanse 80% of the indigenous Palestinians.
@SovereignStatesman Tell that to the slaves. But as I agree with you, the Supreme court sees it differently,and besides, since this is about paying taxes comapnies and corporatins are required by law to pay taxes. It's just that some make so much money that tye can actually BUY government for themselves and get away with anything they want. EXXON/Mobile has QUARTERLY profits in the tens of BILLIONS, yet not onloy gets away with no income taxes, they actually get subsidies paid for BY taxapyers.
@SovereignStatesman I will "keep trying". I vote for candidates that champion the workling man, not the corporations. I know no one can fix thgs overnight, but the Republicans are just shills for big buisiness, so anyone with an "r" loses my vote.
@SovereignStatesman I only have one vote. It's the Republicans withe their choices of candidates that is going to do the most to get Obama re-elected.
No, it's idiots like you who cut off your nose to spite your faces by electing idiots like Obama because you're so easily led; you're a bunch of rats and he's the Pie-in the-skyed Piper..
@SovereignStatesman Yeah and cutting 1.5 trillion in taxes and starting 2 wars is a smart thing to do. Clinton left bush a surplus and the majority of our debt at that time was from the tax cuts. Bush hid the war debt off the books. The smart thing to do was to get rid of those taxes in a time of war but the dumbass didnt and thats why we are fucked now.
He didnt add it to the normal debt he kept it separate. And no iraq didnt
have weapons we knew that before we went in. The debt was alot bigger than he let on..The regular person didnt really get what bush was doing we were way in debt already iraq was just a war for oil and a foothold
in the region. And go fuck you self and go watch more fox news
I'm voting for Ron Paul-- are you? He voted AGAINST going into Iraq. If you're not voting for him, you're part of the problem.
But Maher is against Ron Paul because he is against socialized health-care-- but hey what would a 40-year doctor know about health-care, who's delivered over 4000 babies without a single problem?
Maher lives in a dream-world just like Michael Moore, they're both just clowns who think they could run the circus better.
@SovereignStatesman did you know both of them were getting ready to start a new currency other than the american dollar due to the fact our federal res. are killing the value of the $1(dollar).....that why gaadafhi's dead as well as the others.(they wanted to deal oil in a blk gold currency...think the oil companies could really afford that to happen)....
.when other countries try to keep the business honest look what happens we gauge war..those countries were trying to save their country cause Americans, politicians,bankers are the biggest crooks in the world....our govt doesn't want anyone benefiting but themRespond to this video...
@SovereignStatesman AFAICT, Economics is supply and demand, money drives demand. While the wealthy have the money and the supply, the demand reduces because poor & middle class don't have money to demand of the supply, because the growth packages failed, because corporations gave the bailout money to stock holders instead of creating the jobs as implied by increasingly misnomic "job creators" label.
There are no "wealthy" except an irrelevant fraction; you're talking CORPORATIONS who simply pass taxes on to the middle-class consumer anyway. And money itself is simply a credit-obligation, so when someone accepts it then they obviously had to give something FIRST. Economics is simple:PEOPLE WORK TO GET PAID SO THEY CAN BUY THINGS.
Keep that in mind and you'll do all right; start complicating it with mounds of claptrap and you create problems.
@SovereignStatesman What do you call a person with a net worth over US$10million, wealthy seems like the best use of the word here. Money cycles through various parts of any economy right now many economies are at strange point where the "haves" have so much that the "have nots" are running out resources to buy stuff further depressing the economy . Cycle it back to the "have nots" through work opportunities, the economy would pick up. Wasn't the official number of new jobs 0 recently?(Contd)
@SovereignStatesman Personal attacks are usually offered by people losing a debate because they are running out of successful arguments. I welcome reasoned and evidenced debate.
Well in this case it's an observation not an attack. Pure Keynesian bullcrap.
"Money cycles through various parts of any economy right now many economies are at strange point where the "haves" have so much that the "have nots" are running out resources to buy stuff further depressing the economy . Cycle it back to the "have nots" through work opportunities, the economy would pick up."
@SovereignStatesman As for the relevance of the "wealthy" they make the business decisions that control the behaviour of corporations they do so largely only motivated by profit. Which in itself is not wrong, they operate in amoral fashion. However asset-stripping wreaked havoc in the 80's. Apparently now, 147 (mostly banks) have influence in 40% of the global market(source New Scientist 22-Oct). They may be small but the instability their decisions cause in the market is far from irrelevant.
So resume popular sovereignty to the people of the states, so that they can annul corrupt federal legislation-- which is inevitable if they can't; as Madison wrote in his Report on the Virginia Resolutions: On any other hypothesis, the delegation would annul the authority delegating it; and might subvert forever, and beyond the possible reach of any rightful remedy, the very Constitution which all were instituted to preserve."
"Work dries up" when government interferes with the economy, creating an artificial bubble which can't last, and distorting the price-information system leading to massive waste and a doomed economic wild-goose chase-- just like after the Great Depression and everything else.
When people work to get paid so they can buy things, then they look for the best jobs for money and best deals to spend it on, whether it's consumer-goods or capital (including savings and investments
@SovereignStatesman Work also dries-up when trillions are handed over to job-creators as a stimulus package who then payout the funds to themselves in dividends instead of working the the label "job-creators".
So you believe in stimulus-funds to create jobs, rather than just allowing the market to reflect economic reality-- and you view a positive benefit from it.
@SovereignStatesman when has the market ever reflected "economic reality"? When has this free-market purity ever existed? The free-market is itself a distortion of the forces of production. Keep hoping for your Randian Utopia. China will be too.
@oldchicken2 but labour is an important element of production. (you obviously seem to have contempt for the idea that labor is important, though it's funny that you resort to the "but they work so hard" argument when trying to justify why financiers deserve all of their money.) you assume the only economically productive activities are those that make money. therefore, following your logic, a prostitute is more economically productive than a mother taking care of her infant son.
I can't answer your question because it requires more than three words with more than one syllable each. Watch my video and see, you won't even understand it- and you'll deny the facts presented are real.
And yes, "Production" is a communist concept developed by Marx regarding the means by which resources are created. Classical economics, OTOH, uses the creation of supply in response to demand.
Sheesh, some communist-- don't even know your own Manifesto!
@SovereignStatesman Nice logic. apparently, production is a "communist concept", but only when me or Marx use it.
You can't answer the question because free-market purity has never existed and you want us to believe that it can. you're obviously uncomfortable debating anything but US constitutional history, so have it your way. If you want to debate political economics, you're on. if you don't, then I'll let you have the last smarmy word.
"You can't answer the question because free-market purity has never existed and you want us to believe that it can."
Again, you're clearly begging the question, to shift the topic to purity away from validity-- which you're doing in order to ignore the oligarchy which PRECLUDES a free market.
That's intellectually dishonest, so you've already lost.
Nice try, though, but I've beaten better than you.
@SovereignStatesman "A pure example is unnecessary in proving the solidity of the concept itself"
What concept would that be. "Free-market"? Actually, it seems to be very shaky concept to me and a large reason why libertarian economics don't make any sense. Under what conditions is a market or the participants in a market, "free"?
"suffice it to say that we've proven more is better."
You don't think the Constitution relates to a free-market? That's why Congress is limited to taxing for the public defense and general welfare ONLY---- NOT for the SPECIAL-interest.
However thanks to Lincoln and Jackson, government is now the master, and the people are the servants; which is why the entire tax-code is nothing but thousands and thousands of pages of special-interest legislation.
@SovereignStatesman With those two exceptions, Congress is free to structure tax any way it sees fit.
I have little information on the details of US tax law, so can't verify the "special interest claim", however if the special interest is the top 1% of income earners or Americas billionaires, you might be on to something.
Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
I love this guy, due to Bill Maher, he has open my eyes wider to the bullshit of the government. I already knew it was corrupt, I just needed to hear in detail of how everything is going downhill.
Physical slavery requires people to be housed and fed. Economic slavery requires people to feed an house themselves. It is one of the most ingenious scams for social manipulations ever created, and at it’s core it is an invisible war against the population. Debt is the weapon use to conquer and enslave societies, and interest is it’s prime ammunition.
Brilliant... That is the type of man that has made America great... I am not American hell I dont even live there but that speech has inspire me... Its incredible out side the states all the news we get its that the dudes that f up your economy are the same dude trying to fix it. They already got your money... We dont see anything about the wall street movement and the cops beating protestors. Hell its just like Libya LOL... But I think that finally Americans will wake up from there slumber.
honestly I don't get it, wal-mart and other mega corps are so shitty yet people still shop at them? its like giving your money to people you hate and telling them they better start being nice too you.
"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”- John Steinbeck. Enough said!
It's not wrong to be rich, but it IS to be rich and buy out and control our government to work in your favor against the interests of the vast majority of people in America. You go, #Occupy!
Bill Maher should make his tax returns public, just so we can see that he isn't being a hypocrite by taking advantage of the abundant tax loopholes for the rich.
@zinkerled - "Bill maher participating in the tax system doesn't make him a hypocrite ..."
You missed the point, entirely -- talk about you mother of all non sequiturs.
It's not about "participating in the tax system." He is legally obligated to "participate" if he has an income, which he does and it is substantial. The obvious point was... does HE benefit by taking advantage of these loopholes for the rich, since HE is rich also. If he does, he is a hypocrite and part of the problem.
@TheHorta No, trying to pay as little taxes as you can, which is expected of all Americans, while advocating for higher taxes for the rich and closing loopholes is not being hypocritical. If you think anyone who advocates for higher taxes should pay higher taxes on their own you are indeed a retard. The goal for every tax payer is to pay as little as you can within the code. Don't you get it?
@Handiman544 "Is he laughing with us or at us?" At us bro, he is laughing at you. He is a millionaire, he is laughing at you because you get confused trying to understand why we went through a recession, you get confused as to how to prevent another one and you are confused even by watching someone who is trying to explain it in the most basic way possible.
and now we have a real factual revolution going on. In over 150 cities all over the country, people are protesting this bullshit... DUDE REALLY? IT TOOK YOU UNTIL MOW TO SEE THIS?! WHERE WAS THIS WHEN THAT DUMBASS BUSH WAS AROUND?!! damn man, this country needs to get off it's ass. Bill you are my hero.
I am confused. If Bill Maher is just a comedian, are we supposed to laugh at him and not take his stuff seriously, just like we do our politicians, or are we supposed to get angry and do something???? Is he laughing with us or at us? Is Bill just exploiting our rotten world to make money, or is he really trying to get 15 people pissed enough to march in protest somewhere??? I am just confused.
The American class war has been going on since 1981, with Reagan cutting taxes on the wealthy and cutting benefits for the poorest. The middle class and poor have only realised this now.
@NathanJosephCole actually, the rich ARE inflating prices, by speculating in food, resources, and fuel, as well as all kind of whacky dirivitives, which is screwing ALL the poorest anyway.
@dangerouslytalented The investment in derivatives are giving information to the supplier of these items in the short run. In the long run, prices are decided by supply and demand- they are worth what the largest amount of money that the largest amount of people are willing to pay for it before the supply runs out. As the supply increases the cost decreases- eventually become accessible to everyone in the market, as long as a reasonable profit can be made.
@NathanJosephCole In theory, but in PRACTISE, the traders are trying to squeeze every last cent out of it, And the customers have no choice, because the traders have essentially aquired control of the market, through control of the supply chain.
It's worse than hoarding, Bill. They took our tax money to bail out the wealthy, then deficit spent to bail out the wealthy more, and as if we've been fucked enough, they printed away the value of our savings in order to continue this Reverse Robin Hood. This isn't hoarding, this is legalized mass theft, just short of kleptocracy.
@Hayleyfire929 Isn't it hypocratic Bill Maher condemed the Tea Party as a racist movement when it all started because of the BUSH to big to fail bailouts & now he embraces occupy wallstreet as a just movement though they THREE years later are rallying because of the same thing? Perhaps if the Tea Party was funded by a socialist foundation initially rather then being a purely grass roots pissed off taxpayer movement he wouldnt have slandered them?
anyway, I'm very happy that we have a Bill Maher at this point. We desperately need as many people as possle that can be a voice to potentially rattle as many people as there can be out of their paralysed stupors
the gop has convinced the middle class that the way to be rich is to vote with the rich. they have convinced us that we all have a lottery ticket to riches, and that if you vote away your social safety nets, when your ticket wins you'll be glad you won't have to pay more. the reality is most people who achieve financial security do so with hard work, disciplined saving and being fortunate enough to not endure prolonged financial calamities like unemployment or disease, where the nets come in.
@TheMarksmenCat voting democrat doesn't make you rich. i think that is clear from what i wrote, i should have added that the other fraction of a percent who aren't included in what i wrote can also become rich by becoming a bankster devoid of any sense of culpability for swindling investors and paying yourself bonuses for bailouts and spending a fraction of your new billions in lobbying "free marketeers" to prevent any kind of regulation from stopping you from swindling the economy yet again.
@xyzoneon yes there were regulations already in place, wanting more government involvement is a knee-jerk reaction for idiots like you who fail to see it is the problem.
@TheMarksmenCat the dodd frank reform bill was a joke precisely because it did nothing about the otc derivatives, aka. the toxic assets,emblematic of the 30 year period of deregulation spearheaded by greenspan, rubin, bernanke and summers under reagan, bush sr, clinton and w. so no, there has not been any meaningful regulation reform and we are still at risk of another bubble and crisis and meltdown as we have seen in the last 2 decades
Thank goodness for Bill Maher. He keeps shining the light on the chiselers in this country.
beanie928 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Are you a Democrat disappointed in Obama? Hate neocons?
Want to End Obama wars and bank bailouts?
Help us do something about it.
Vote for Ron Paul in the GOP primaries, and kick warmongering neocons out of the race.
Do you really want to run the risk of a Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich for president? Another war? No more Neocons. Show them ALL of america is sick of them.
We welcome your help. Please consider it.
Search "Blue Republican" if you want to know the game plan.
Premier112 2 months ago
@mrtfotful "Without cheating" just means "within the law" which is still often cheating! Someone ought to shoot you... preemptively! And by the way, if you're any kind of student you should know how to spell and construct a sentence. Does anyone have a spare bullet?
mrfester42 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
GO TO MY CHANNEL & see the song that predicted OWS!! 6 months before it happened!!!
heytootssweet 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Bill Maher is a communist.
impossibe2629 2 months ago
I absolutely love how people (occupy protesters) who babble on to Wall Street and constantly repeating the same tune about why hasn't economists promised anything to the general public just because the US is on the verge of another Great Depression. It's too late for anyone to actually fix the solution of wealthy inequality. It's no wonder such civil disobedience has risen to a higher level than a severla weeks back yet a violent backlash is more likely to occur soon.
Ringvireot 2 months ago
@mrtfotful I think some of the occupy protests are more organized then others but what they offer is the possibility of forcing politicians to change something to make the United States, and to a certain extent, Europe and other parts of the world, more economically stable and, over time, more just. That's more than either of us are doing making comments on a Bill Maher video.
oldchicken2 2 months ago
@mrtfotful and I'm trying to point out that, based on what you're saying, anything that creates profits is justifiable. if you steal a million dollars and don't get caught, you've gotten a high return on your investment and thus, deserve it. that's, in effect, what the banks have done, only with trillions of dollars.
oldchicken2 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The number of Perverted and Wicked people attacking the Mormons is a great identifier of how good and true the church is. If not for those wicked agents of evil, I would not have been drawn to the LDS church,, I was so sickened by the decline in morality that I've witnessed since my youth( I'm 40) that I took the time to see why so many are attacking them, I'm happy I did, it changed my life. If you are disturbed by the decline of morality in the world, go to mormon.org or lds.org .
Robyshileileh 2 months ago
I love youtube political discussion. Just a bunch of people getting butthurt with no clear winners
Bjtafoya7 3 months ago
@Bjtafoya7 And what should it be like? You really think economics in 2011/2012 should be takne like a joke and we should just focus on the fun in our lives? Sure we shoud. While all those who are richer than rich continu to puncture this world dry.
alrune8 2 months ago
who is this man that is laughing in the background?
ipodman20000 3 months ago
@ipodman20000 that's Colin Quinn
doctornoise 3 months ago
Too bad, Americans from both Left, Right, Center are all bunch of lazy, disillusioned working slaves who will continue to follow their religion of cheap consumerism and partisan politics while the big boys who run our lives continue to live large at our expense. The next election cycles will be the same. America will be too busy watching reality TV and spend 10 minutes on electing a new senator, governor or president based on partisan politics, when they ALL are in bed with corp monies.
etamlous 3 months ago
@mrtfotful so there is nothing we can do to stop subsidizing the rich? in your own lazy and tacit way then, you are a corporate communist. congratulations.
oldchicken2 3 months ago
@mrtfotful the US already has communism. for rich people.
oldchicken2 3 months ago
@mrtfotful how exactly did Richard Fuld "make profits"? he didn't "make" anything. he observed the making of "profits" by other people and gave himself huge bonuses when these "profits" turned out to be worthless.
cheating will happen in every system, and many politicians and successful businessmen cheat or game the system in some way.
the difference with what's happening today is that this cheating has become of such a nature that it is destroying the world economy.
oldchicken2 3 months ago
@mrtfotful And by the way, in the "real world" you are SUBSIDIZING the profits of the financial sector with 7.7 trillion dollars through the federal reserve. but that's just how things work, isn't it? so we should all just shut up and accept it, right?
oldchicken2 3 months ago
@mrtfotful i wish I could be so naive. to believe that in real world capitalism people earn money based on virtue.
you equate turning a profit with economically productive activity. What has the financial sector, which has the highest capital flows in the world, produced that is of any real value to the economy? why did Richard Fuld get millions in compensation for running his company and the US economy into the ground?
oldchicken2 3 months ago
he predicted 99% protests
lifemetall 3 months ago 2
To this I say, abso-fuckin-lutely!
chochaconquistador 3 months ago
I love you Bill Maher.
Wolfman7870 3 months ago 2
at 0:13 is what incited the OWS protesters to occupy wall street, even though the firms haven't been there for a long time.
Is he really not aware that these homeless people are, to a person, simply addicted to the DRUGS that he so fondly advocates?
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Anyone who went to one of those Charlie Scheen concerts are fucKing idiots. Just because you pay for his prostitutes, does'nt mean you get to fuck them. YOU are just trying to live your dream through him. MORON WAKE UP.
mannymmv 3 months ago
like it but still have to dig Charlie Sheen.
StrummingSparrow 3 months ago
@StrummingSparrow
Hello, WINNING?
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
Isn't Bill a rich guy?
MrBrational 3 months ago
YES HE IS.
nenedent 3 months ago
Class Warfare: Poverty, The Poor, Lower-middle Class, Middle Class, Upper-middle Class, The Rich, and THE WEALTHY (They sign the checks of The Rich)
TheIntoxicatingEgo 3 months ago
@TheIntoxicatingEgo
More like the master feeds the slaves. There's no social mobility under cronyism, it's like trying to beat the house in Vegas.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Incredibly telling how Maher NEVER talks about the sickening overt and institutionalised racism within Israeli society that is ENTIRELY based upon the sickeningly racist doctrines of the Talmudic Jewish oral law, that says that anyone other than a Jew has absolutely no rights and must be seen as "cattle".
Strange how Bill 'Zionist' Maher never lets his audience know about that!
Maher is a Jewish ethnic supremacist who thinks OK to ethnically cleanse 80% of the indigenous Palestinians.
OrthodoxDarwinist 3 months ago
In this case it's more like "ass pity" LOL
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
HELL YEAH!
WELL SAID!
steve73011 3 months ago
Why shouldn't GE have to pay taxes?
Because those taxes are paid by the stockholders perhaps, via income and capital gains taxes?
But of course Maher, with his worhtless degree, never thought about that.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman People have to pay taxes. Corporations are people right? can't have it both ways.
Mozart1220 3 months ago
@Mozart1220
If corporations were people then they couldn't be owned by other people, right?
Can't have it both ways!
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman Tell that to the slaves. But as I agree with you, the Supreme court sees it differently,and besides, since this is about paying taxes comapnies and corporatins are required by law to pay taxes. It's just that some make so much money that tye can actually BUY government for themselves and get away with anything they want. EXXON/Mobile has QUARTERLY profits in the tens of BILLIONS, yet not onloy gets away with no income taxes, they actually get subsidies paid for BY taxapyers.
Mozart1220 3 months ago
@Mozart1220
That's inevitable under an oligarchy. But I know you 'll keep trying anyway.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman I will "keep trying". I vote for candidates that champion the workling man, not the corporations. I know no one can fix thgs overnight, but the Republicans are just shills for big buisiness, so anyone with an "r" loses my vote.
Mozart1220 3 months ago
@Mozart1220
So you're going to help re-elect Obama.
I think we're done here.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman I only have one vote. It's the Republicans withe their choices of candidates that is going to do the most to get Obama re-elected.
Mozart1220 3 months ago
@Mozart1220
No, it's idiots like you who cut off your nose to spite your faces by electing idiots like Obama because you're so easily led; you're a bunch of rats and he's the Pie-in the-skyed Piper..
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman Ah, namecalling. The fallback position of the beaten man. That and tired old cliches.
Mozart1220 3 months ago
@Mozart1220
Nope, it's calling a dipshit a dipshit.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman LOL. Same old. No substance, no facts, just a red headed bully on the schoolyard running away and calling people names.
Mozart1220 3 months ago
@Mozart1220
Can't teach a fool.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@SovereignStatesman LOL. Keep proving my point.
Mozart1220 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman Yeah and cutting 1.5 trillion in taxes and starting 2 wars is a smart thing to do. Clinton left bush a surplus and the majority of our debt at that time was from the tax cuts. Bush hid the war debt off the books. The smart thing to do was to get rid of those taxes in a time of war but the dumbass didnt and thats why we are fucked now.
rainbow6vet 3 months ago
@rainbow6vet
Where the FUCK did you study economics, Cuba?
As for starting wars, I think Hussein and Bin Laden had something to do with that dumbass (and yes, Saddam Hussein DID try to obtain WMD's).
And as for "hiding war debt," that's IMPOSSIBLE, Congress handles the budget.
Than public school for your ignorance.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
Comment removed
rainbow6vet 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@SovereignStatesman
He didnt add it to the normal debt he kept it separate. And no iraq didnt
have weapons we knew that before we went in. The debt was alot bigger than he let on..The regular person didnt really get what bush was doing we were way in debt already iraq was just a war for oil and a foothold
in the region. And go fuck you self and go watch more fox news
rainbow6vet 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@rainbow6vet
I'm voting for Ron Paul-- are you? He voted AGAINST going into Iraq. If you're not voting for him, you're part of the problem.
But Maher is against Ron Paul because he is against socialized health-care-- but hey what would a 40-year doctor know about health-care, who's delivered over 4000 babies without a single problem?
Maher lives in a dream-world just like Michael Moore, they're both just clowns who think they could run the circus better.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman did you know both of them were getting ready to start a new currency other than the american dollar due to the fact our federal res. are killing the value of the $1(dollar).....that why gaadafhi's dead as well as the others.(they wanted to deal oil in a blk gold currency...think the oil companies could really afford that to happen)....
mssherri08 3 months ago
@mssherri08
I heard rumors, but who knows?
Obama is a worthless crook who wants to destroy the country, that's for sure.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman oh yea it's all Obama's fault, yea right.
bashia 3 months ago
@bashia
Nah he's just got a bigger dick to fuck the country in the ass with.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman
So...It's really all about penis envy then...?
deetjay1 3 months ago
.when other countries try to keep the business honest look what happens we gauge war..those countries were trying to save their country cause Americans, politicians,bankers are the biggest crooks in the world....our govt doesn't want anyone benefiting but themRespond to this video...
mssherri08 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman AFAICT, Economics is supply and demand, money drives demand. While the wealthy have the money and the supply, the demand reduces because poor & middle class don't have money to demand of the supply, because the growth packages failed, because corporations gave the bailout money to stock holders instead of creating the jobs as implied by increasingly misnomic "job creators" label.
EmmittBrownBTTF1 3 months ago
@EmmittBrownBTTF1
What are you smoking?
There are no "wealthy" except an irrelevant fraction; you're talking CORPORATIONS who simply pass taxes on to the middle-class consumer anyway. And money itself is simply a credit-obligation, so when someone accepts it then they obviously had to give something FIRST. Economics is simple:PEOPLE WORK TO GET PAID SO THEY CAN BUY THINGS.
Keep that in mind and you'll do all right; start complicating it with mounds of claptrap and you create problems.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman What do you call a person with a net worth over US$10million, wealthy seems like the best use of the word here. Money cycles through various parts of any economy right now many economies are at strange point where the "haves" have so much that the "have nots" are running out resources to buy stuff further depressing the economy . Cycle it back to the "have nots" through work opportunities, the economy would pick up. Wasn't the official number of new jobs 0 recently?(Contd)
EmmittBrownBTTF1 3 months ago
@EmmittBrownBTTF1
You have a VERY warped understanding of economics; where the hell did you study, Screw U?
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman Personal attacks are usually offered by people losing a debate because they are running out of successful arguments. I welcome reasoned and evidenced debate.
EmmittBrownBTTF1 3 months ago
Comment removed
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@SovereignStatesman
"WTF? "Personal attacks?"
Are you paranoid or something? "
"What are you smoking"
"Pure Keynesian bullcrap"
"Screw U"
"...start complicating it with mounds of claptrap and you create problems"
EmmittBrownBTTF1 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@EmmittBrownBTTF1
Well in this case it's an observation not an attack. Pure Keynesian bullcrap.
"Money cycles through various parts of any economy right now many economies are at strange point where the "haves" have so much that the "have nots" are running out resources to buy stuff further depressing the economy . Cycle it back to the "have nots" through work opportunities, the economy would pick up."
BWAHAHAHHA
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman As for the relevance of the "wealthy" they make the business decisions that control the behaviour of corporations they do so largely only motivated by profit. Which in itself is not wrong, they operate in amoral fashion. However asset-stripping wreaked havoc in the 80's. Apparently now, 147 (mostly banks) have influence in 40% of the global market(source New Scientist 22-Oct). They may be small but the instability their decisions cause in the market is far from irrelevant.
EmmittBrownBTTF1 3 months ago
Comment removed
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@EmmittBrownBTTF1
So resume popular sovereignty to the people of the states, so that they can annul corrupt federal legislation-- which is inevitable if they can't; as Madison wrote in his Report on the Virginia Resolutions: On any other hypothesis, the delegation would annul the authority delegating it; and might subvert forever, and beyond the possible reach of any rightful remedy, the very Constitution which all were instituted to preserve."
And that's how it's been for the past 150 years.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman
"Economics is simple:PEOPLE WORK TO GET PAID SO THEY CAN BUY THINGS" Yep, and when the work dries up the buying dries up too.
[rhetorical]Weren't we discussing economics? How did Constitutional law creep in?[/rhetorical]
EmmittBrownBTTF1 3 months ago
@EmmittBrownBTTF1
"Work dries up" when government interferes with the economy, creating an artificial bubble which can't last, and distorting the price-information system leading to massive waste and a doomed economic wild-goose chase-- just like after the Great Depression and everything else.
When people work to get paid so they can buy things, then they look for the best jobs for money and best deals to spend it on, whether it's consumer-goods or capital (including savings and investments
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman Work also dries-up when trillions are handed over to job-creators as a stimulus package who then payout the funds to themselves in dividends instead of working the the label "job-creators".
EmmittBrownBTTF1 3 months ago
@EmmittBrownBTTF1
So you believe in stimulus-funds to create jobs, rather than just allowing the market to reflect economic reality-- and you view a positive benefit from it.
I say you're hopeless.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman when has the market ever reflected "economic reality"? When has this free-market purity ever existed? The free-market is itself a distortion of the forces of production. Keep hoping for your Randian Utopia. China will be too.
oldchicken2 3 months ago
@oldchicken2
And what do you think are "the forces of production?" Labor?
Dos Vidanyas, Comrade! LOL
Keep hoping for your communist utopia, Cuba will be too LOL
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman you didn't answer my question. when has free-market purity ever existed?
and by the way, "production" is not a communist concept.
oldchicken2 3 months ago
@oldchicken2 but labour is an important element of production. (you obviously seem to have contempt for the idea that labor is important, though it's funny that you resort to the "but they work so hard" argument when trying to justify why financiers deserve all of their money.) you assume the only economically productive activities are those that make money. therefore, following your logic, a prostitute is more economically productive than a mother taking care of her infant son.
oldchicken2 3 months ago
but that's ok. just say "end the fed" and convince yourself what you're saying makes sense.
oldchicken2 3 months ago
@oldchicken2
I can't answer your question because it requires more than three words with more than one syllable each. Watch my video and see, you won't even understand it- and you'll deny the facts presented are real.
And yes, "Production" is a communist concept developed by Marx regarding the means by which resources are created. Classical economics, OTOH, uses the creation of supply in response to demand.
Sheesh, some communist-- don't even know your own Manifesto!
LOL
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman Oh ok, so John Locke never talked about production? This is tiring.
I'll ask one more time. When has free market purity ever existed? Take as much time as you want to explain.
oldchicken2 3 months ago
Comment removed
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman Nice logic. apparently, production is a "communist concept", but only when me or Marx use it.
You can't answer the question because free-market purity has never existed and you want us to believe that it can. you're obviously uncomfortable debating anything but US constitutional history, so have it your way. If you want to debate political economics, you're on. if you don't, then I'll let you have the last smarmy word.
oldchicken2 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@oldchicken2
"You can't answer the question because free-market purity has never existed and you want us to believe that it can."
Again, you're clearly begging the question, to shift the topic to purity away from validity-- which you're doing in order to ignore the oligarchy which PRECLUDES a free market.
That's intellectually dishonest, so you've already lost.
Nice try, though, but I've beaten better than you.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@oldchicken2
"When has free market purity ever existed? Take as much time as you want to explain."
In answering begged question? Don't hold your breath! LOL
A pure example is unnecessary in proving the solidity of the concept itself; suffice it to say that we've proven more is better.
"so John Locke never talked about production?"
Not as a titular concept; that was Marx's. You're thinking production in general.
"This is tiring."
Tell me about it.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman "A pure example is unnecessary in proving the solidity of the concept itself"
What concept would that be. "Free-market"? Actually, it seems to be very shaky concept to me and a large reason why libertarian economics don't make any sense. Under what conditions is a market or the participants in a market, "free"?
"suffice it to say that we've proven more is better."
For WHO?
oldchicken2 3 months ago
@EmmittBrownBTTF1
You don't think the Constitution relates to a free-market? That's why Congress is limited to taxing for the public defense and general welfare ONLY---- NOT for the SPECIAL-interest.
However thanks to Lincoln and Jackson, government is now the master, and the people are the servants; which is why the entire tax-code is nothing but thousands and thousands of pages of special-interest legislation.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@SovereignStatesman With those two exceptions, Congress is free to structure tax any way it sees fit.
I have little information on the details of US tax law, so can't verify the "special interest claim", however if the special interest is the top 1% of income earners or Americas billionaires, you might be on to something.
EmmittBrownBTTF1 3 months ago
@EmmittBrownBTTF1
You have very little information PERIOD-- and even less sense.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@EmmittBrownBTTF1
"With those two exceptions, Congress is free to structure tax any way it sees fit."
Ok, those are NOT "two exceptions." That is the EXTENT of federal power of taxation: i.e. it MUST either be used:
1) for the General Welfare, or
2) the Common Defense of the individual states.
But why am I explaining this to you? You're a fuckwit retard.
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@SovereignStatesman Ron Paul 2012 or more of the same!
Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
joe035 3 months ago
I love this guy, due to Bill Maher, he has open my eyes wider to the bullshit of the government. I already knew it was corrupt, I just needed to hear in detail of how everything is going downhill.
JoJoStarFire 3 months ago
wow, turns out this was very prophetic. #Occupy
friendsofjeremy 3 months ago
Excellent clip.
homeycdawg 3 months ago
wake up
DgurlSunshine 3 months ago
Fucking nailed it!
MrNiceGuy142100 3 months ago
We want the Wall Street shell game con men put in jail. We want our money back too. the 99%
mijomitchell 3 months ago
You can tell sometimes that Bill almost regrets the laughs because he's actually sending a seriuos message.
The same tactics that kept the peasents in poverty in the dark ages is working on stupid americans today! WTF!
FreeMindedAthiest 4 months ago
Physical slavery requires people to be housed and fed. Economic slavery requires people to feed an house themselves. It is one of the most ingenious scams for social manipulations ever created, and at it’s core it is an invisible war against the population. Debt is the weapon use to conquer and enslave societies, and interest is it’s prime ammunition.
eblgraphics 4 months ago
Brilliant... That is the type of man that has made America great... I am not American hell I dont even live there but that speech has inspire me... Its incredible out side the states all the news we get its that the dudes that f up your economy are the same dude trying to fix it. They already got your money... We dont see anything about the wall street movement and the cops beating protestors. Hell its just like Libya LOL... But I think that finally Americans will wake up from there slumber.
eblgraphics 4 months ago
peace.
bibleresponse 4 months ago
I already got your money, dude...
zx7pilot6 4 months ago
holy shit this was awesome!!!
dr1345 4 months ago
honestly I don't get it, wal-mart and other mega corps are so shitty yet people still shop at them? its like giving your money to people you hate and telling them they better start being nice too you.
Dethreid 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”- John Steinbeck. Enough said!
MsDDiddy 4 months ago 3
It's not wrong to be rich, but it IS to be rich and buy out and control our government to work in your favor against the interests of the vast majority of people in America. You go, #Occupy!
xplorva 4 months ago
Bill Maher should make his tax returns public, just so we can see that he isn't being a hypocrite by taking advantage of the abundant tax loopholes for the rich.
TheHorta 4 months ago
@TheHorta Bill maher participating in the tax system doesn't make him a hypocrite you stupid, stupid retard.
zinkerled 4 months ago
@zinkerled - "Bill maher participating in the tax system doesn't make him a hypocrite ..."
You missed the point, entirely -- talk about you mother of all non sequiturs.
It's not about "participating in the tax system." He is legally obligated to "participate" if he has an income, which he does and it is substantial. The obvious point was... does HE benefit by taking advantage of these loopholes for the rich, since HE is rich also. If he does, he is a hypocrite and part of the problem.
TheHorta 4 months ago
@TheHorta No, trying to pay as little taxes as you can, which is expected of all Americans, while advocating for higher taxes for the rich and closing loopholes is not being hypocritical. If you think anyone who advocates for higher taxes should pay higher taxes on their own you are indeed a retard. The goal for every tax payer is to pay as little as you can within the code. Don't you get it?
zinkerled 4 months ago
Bill always puts it in such a way that almost anyone can understand. Hopefully even the really stupid people.
kellyb4 4 months ago
good thing maher the chicken hawk has sharp writers because the pig of a man would be nothing with out them
bojames98 4 months ago
He says what we're saying in Occupy Wall Street! except the whole Charlie stuff
insidexistance 4 months ago
Should've been "Bill Maher on Charlie Sheen and Wall Street", there's more Sheen commentary than Wall Street...
Phun5tar 4 months ago
@Phun5tar The Charlie Sheen bits is a metapor for wall st- and the corporatepower and abuse of the middle-class etc.
HanSomKan1 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I can solve Americans problem.
Follow the Canadian regulations on banks and buisnesses.
pepelepew2006 5 months ago
@Handiman544 "Is he laughing with us or at us?" At us bro, he is laughing at you. He is a millionaire, he is laughing at you because you get confused trying to understand why we went through a recession, you get confused as to how to prevent another one and you are confused even by watching someone who is trying to explain it in the most basic way possible.
He is laughing at you and so am I
shandcunt 5 months ago
Jews!
mmitwaly 5 months ago
@mmitwaly JUICE WHERE
Abbadon380 4 months ago
and now we have a real factual revolution going on. In over 150 cities all over the country, people are protesting this bullshit... DUDE REALLY? IT TOOK YOU UNTIL MOW TO SEE THIS?! WHERE WAS THIS WHEN THAT DUMBASS BUSH WAS AROUND?!! damn man, this country needs to get off it's ass. Bill you are my hero.
Kerwritervetgirl122 5 months ago
"...Somehow, they're banging the pornstars, and you're getting the crabs"
genius. Bill Maher is so damn good
WAAAAAAAAAAAY 5 months ago
I am confused. If Bill Maher is just a comedian, are we supposed to laugh at him and not take his stuff seriously, just like we do our politicians, or are we supposed to get angry and do something???? Is he laughing with us or at us? Is Bill just exploiting our rotten world to make money, or is he really trying to get 15 people pissed enough to march in protest somewhere??? I am just confused.
Handiman544 5 months ago
The American class war has been going on since 1981, with Reagan cutting taxes on the wealthy and cutting benefits for the poorest. The middle class and poor have only realised this now.
dangerouslytalented 5 months ago
if the 1% spends their money it increases demand, causing inflation. Congrats: you didn't the rich less rich, you just made everyone else more poor.
NathanJosephCole 5 months ago
@NathanJosephCole actually, the rich ARE inflating prices, by speculating in food, resources, and fuel, as well as all kind of whacky dirivitives, which is screwing ALL the poorest anyway.
dangerouslytalented 5 months ago
@dangerouslytalented The investment in derivatives are giving information to the supplier of these items in the short run. In the long run, prices are decided by supply and demand- they are worth what the largest amount of money that the largest amount of people are willing to pay for it before the supply runs out. As the supply increases the cost decreases- eventually become accessible to everyone in the market, as long as a reasonable profit can be made.
NathanJosephCole 5 months ago
@NathanJosephCole In theory, but in PRACTISE, the traders are trying to squeeze every last cent out of it, And the customers have no choice, because the traders have essentially aquired control of the market, through control of the supply chain.
dangerouslytalented 5 months ago
We have a class war! Everything except the shooting, yet.
RadarKat73080 6 months ago
It's worse than hoarding, Bill. They took our tax money to bail out the wealthy, then deficit spent to bail out the wealthy more, and as if we've been fucked enough, they printed away the value of our savings in order to continue this Reverse Robin Hood. This isn't hoarding, this is legalized mass theft, just short of kleptocracy.
Hayleyfire929 7 months ago 32
@Hayleyfire929
No, it's PLUTOCRACY, which is inevitable under an oligarchy.
But the sheeple think that since they can vote, then they're in charge... despite that both chutes lead to the same slaughterhouse.
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe ..
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@Hayleyfire929
Well America was tired of getting fucked in the ass by Bush's little dick... so they elected a BLACK GUY?
How dumb is that? LOL
SovereignStatesman 3 months ago
@Hayleyfire929 Isn't it hypocratic Bill Maher condemed the Tea Party as a racist movement when it all started because of the BUSH to big to fail bailouts & now he embraces occupy wallstreet as a just movement though they THREE years later are rallying because of the same thing? Perhaps if the Tea Party was funded by a socialist foundation initially rather then being a purely grass roots pissed off taxpayer movement he wouldnt have slandered them?
joe035 3 months ago
bill maher nails it again
AWesome61696 7 months ago
to big to fail was obama bill
TMachia 7 months ago
anyway, I'm very happy that we have a Bill Maher at this point. We desperately need as many people as possle that can be a voice to potentially rattle as many people as there can be out of their paralysed stupors
unfortunatebeam 9 months ago
god FUCK OFF sixpackshortcuts stop promoting that shit
unfortunatebeam 9 months ago
the gop has convinced the middle class that the way to be rich is to vote with the rich. they have convinced us that we all have a lottery ticket to riches, and that if you vote away your social safety nets, when your ticket wins you'll be glad you won't have to pay more. the reality is most people who achieve financial security do so with hard work, disciplined saving and being fortunate enough to not endure prolonged financial calamities like unemployment or disease, where the nets come in.
tyrannosaurusinf14 10 months ago 50
@tyrannosaurusinf14 really great point made there and i agree with you one hundred percent on this.
papurchasin 10 months ago 12
@tyrannosaurusinf14
A lot of the upper class also achieve wealth through an inheritance meaning the wealth was passed down from past generations.
boston312 5 months ago
@tyrannosaurusinf14 You're so right that is scary!!
chifuli1974 4 months ago
@tyrannosaurusinf14 so you have to vote Democrat in order to become rich then?
TheMarksmenCat 4 months ago
@TheMarksmenCat voting democrat doesn't make you rich. i think that is clear from what i wrote, i should have added that the other fraction of a percent who aren't included in what i wrote can also become rich by becoming a bankster devoid of any sense of culpability for swindling investors and paying yourself bonuses for bailouts and spending a fraction of your new billions in lobbying "free marketeers" to prevent any kind of regulation from stopping you from swindling the economy yet again.
tyrannosaurusinf14 4 months ago
@tyrannosaurusinf14 so did the regulations stop the great recession then?
TheMarksmenCat 4 months ago
@TheMarksmenCat No because they didn't exist. That's the point, chimp.
xyzoneon 4 months ago
@xyzoneon yes there were regulations already in place, wanting more government involvement is a knee-jerk reaction for idiots like you who fail to see it is the problem.
TheMarksmenCat 4 months ago
@TheMarksmenCat Haha yeah, there were great regulations, obviously. Now git.
xyzoneon 4 months ago
@TheMarksmenCat the dodd frank reform bill was a joke precisely because it did nothing about the otc derivatives, aka. the toxic assets,emblematic of the 30 year period of deregulation spearheaded by greenspan, rubin, bernanke and summers under reagan, bush sr, clinton and w. so no, there has not been any meaningful regulation reform and we are still at risk of another bubble and crisis and meltdown as we have seen in the last 2 decades
tyrannosaurusinf14 4 months ago
Porn stars who smell like ammonia? I hope that isn't first hand experience, Bill.
roundtown74 11 months ago
Charley really set him self up for the joke on how he acts pitty he is stuck in the mid age crisis
papurchasin 11 months ago 4
That was really well said !
aceonfire11 11 months ago