We Hardee's users get a single solitary six dollar, no specials varieties or anything. We do have some different 1/3 pound burgers however. I think Carl's Jr. gets the better end of the deal though.
I've never heard of Green Burrito restaurants. I'm not a big fan of Tex-Mex anyways.
Indeed, I hadn't heard of In-N-Out before you mentioned it, and I like the Food Network.
There is actually a movie called "Fast Food Nation", might be where you have heard it from. It sounded familiar to me too.
I'm not sure how big the Six Dollar Burger is, so I can't really compare. I almost never get a Six Dollar Burger anyway.
I've seen the book "Fast Food Nation" at various Borders bookstores; it was a pretty hot seller for a while, but no amount of this Morgan Spurlock business will ever make a lasting impact on the fast food business. Americans are in too big of a hurry for anything else.
I'm not sure how big it is either... Its usually my food of choice on the occasional time I go to my local Hardee's. I do not, however, get fries or anything with it, which helps. Just the burger, and then I usually just get some water to drink back at the house. Try and keep it from being extremely unhealthy at least.
Indeed. As long as you can get in and get out in under 5 minutes, there will always be a business for fast food.
Which makes some of the more popular local places, In-N-Out definitely being one, a bit slower than some pople would've liked. It takes about 20 minutes of waiting, since there are always so many people waiting for their food with you.
On another note, In-N-Out is also a visually striking example of automobile dependency in southern California: Look at any In-N-Out, and as long as it isn't like 3 AM, the line of cars often stretches out way into the street. Some In-N-Outs lack dining areas.
I've never minded waiting for food. My mate refuse to go to the local Long John Silver, because they take about 15 minutes to get your order (They don't heat-lamp for some reason. Which is very nice, makes their food taste better).
My folks aren't any better either. 20 minutes in a restaurant and they leave if the food isn't out.
Ugh. I hate driving to the point that I walk to any place local when I can. My allergies prevent me from doing so in the summer, but I walk everywhere in the winter.
One thing I know is that most drive-thrus refuse service to those who come by on foot due to robbers. Luckily, for those without cars, In-N-Outs without dining areas (which make up about 90% of the ones I've seen) have a counter you go up to, though you'll have to take your food somewhere else.
There's a ridiculous amount of oil absorbed into Long John Silver's...at least the one I've gone to.
Have you seen Who Framed Roger Rabbit? It discusses the replacement of Red Cars with the highways.
Indeed, All our local places have indoor areas. I'd never think of walking up to a drive-thru. Not because of that, but simply because it would never cross my mind. Who walks through a drive-thru?? Its nice it has a counter though, for us pedestrians.
Normally I would agree with you, but our local one is awesome. 100% health rating, really friendly employees. Best one I've seen.
Long long ago I saw that movie. Its be so long however that I don't remember a thing about it.
There IS how drive-thrus tend to be open far later than the dining areas though, and some people just want to buy some food at, say, 1 AM. Sonic is another place that's pretty much all drive-thru; the dining area is the parking spaces around the place. I've never been to a Sonic, so I don't know how they deal with pedestrians.
There's only one Long John Silver's that has ever existed around here, by the way.
In Roger Rabbit, Judge Doom wanted to create a highway system to cause car dependency.
If you don't feel like watching through the whole movie again, Judge Doom wanted to eliminate Toontown for reasons unknown until the end.
(Spoilers)
It was because Toontown stood in the path for the new highway system. He bought up the Red Car trolley system through Cloverfield, his dummy corporation, to dismantle them. With no viable means of going places other than automobiles, he would make a fortune selling cars.
Other than Toontown, this is really what happened to Los Angeles.
I'm not sure about all sonic restaurants, but our sonic has a small indoor area. Basically its an enclosed counter. They take a fair amount of time to cook your food as well. Our sonic isn't doing to well because of this, probably going to close soon.
We have a few around. However we do only have one location for both of my favorite fast food joints; Arby's and Zaxby's. Unfortunately both are a good 30 minute drive from my flat.
I'd love to see the movie again actually, but it's not going to be on local TV for at least the next two weeks. It's probably been uploaded to youtube, just gota find it.
That sounds pretty awful. I'm sure the air quality in L.A. if horrible because of this too, and that in turn probably makes the air in that hot region even hotter. I wouldn't even mind cars as much if we could get on a clean energy source. Here's to MIT's new solar energy break through, maybe that will help.
By the way, the city of San Luis Obispo in central California prohibits drive-thrus. I'm glad they did something like that; the restaurants there seem to do fine without them. Drive-thrus are a hassle, especially when you have to pay exact change.
I've never heard of Zaxby's, but there are a few Arby's around here. Not at my university's town though. It's the biggest small town I've ever seen. I can explain later.
Southern California is probably the one place where solar-powered cars can work.
I agree. We as a nation have food to readily accessible anyways. One of the reasons we are so overweight as a nation. Even that small walk you would have to make from parking outside and walking in to place your order, could help I'm sure.
Zaxby's is a kinda like a more refined chick-fil-a. They have a really good chicken salad sandwich. It sounds similar to where I live. It's the smallest and emptiest big city I've ever seen.
With that breakthrough MIT recently discovered though, I think they could work anywhere. They basically found a way to replicate photosynthesis, and in the process, create hydrogen. I was initially against hydrogen as an alternative fuel due to how impractical it was. That thinking changed a great deal when i found this little discovery of MIT's.
Now all we have to do is find a good way to store the Hydrogen, and use it safely. The sooner we get off oil, the better.
And people love their cars so much that they never want to be too far away from them. Often too much. Street narcissism is really annoying.
Anyway, Santa Cruz stretches for miles and miles and has a population of about 60,000, but an overwhelming amount of its stores are local businesses. This is because of the university students protesting and actively repelling the chain stores from coming in. This, of course, creates unexpected results: Local businesses price-gauge knowing their loyal base.
I mean, I like small business and all, but many of the students favor them so much that they pay for a $17 salad and willingly take any excuse the business owners tell them. You can smell the favoritism like garlic. I'm not exaggerating either; many of the stores post their prices out on the front windows, and I check them out.
I don't know about you, but I think all big businesses were once small businesses; they merely got successful enough and made wise choices to expand.
Haven't you heard? Car's are this years latest gangsta fashion accessory! (Sarcasm). That stuff gets to me too. As long as my hunk o' junk van can get me from point A to point B, the rest is gravy.
That sounds awful. I'm all for supporting local shops but not when they pull stuff like that. That's incredibly devious. Thinking about that makes my brain hurt.
I agree with you that nearly all big business started out small. They just made the right choices and made a bundle. Good for them I say.
Yeah, small business owners have an image of being honest, down-to-earth, and friendly people. That image, of course, is largely false; they're just as susceptible to greed as big business owners and have ways of manipulating people big business owners can't.
Regarding street narcissism, I think it's only southern Californian. Every time I want to change lanes and there's someone there, that person matches my speed when I speed up. People seem to really hate being passed on the freeways.
Greed can truly corrupt people, and no one is immune from its grasp. Trying to earn an honest dollar is commendable. Trying to earn $17 for a salad isn't. It must be garnished with gold to cost that much (Sarcasm).
Oh no, I can assure you that its prevalent at least on the east coast too. You pass some people, and you have just made an enemy. And people on Cell's are the worst. They don't even look, they drive as if they are the only ones on the road. I've narrowly avoided accidents with them.
Or that salad's got to be the size of my backpack...which would be way too much to just eat right there. (I've seen some big busineeses emulate small business styles, like plain-text signs, lots of wooden textures inside, and spacing out of separate stores so people don't ordinarily notice. Noah's Bagels is one such case. Are you familiar with it?)
Driving with a cell phone is now illegal in Los Angeles. The fine is $500. I saw a sharp decline, but some people still chirp anyway.
Now serving single serving salads in punch bowls! Ranch dressing by the liters!
I've not heard of Noah's Bagels actually. We only have Krispy Kreme and Dunkin' Donuts as far as bakery-ish chains go. Wish we had a Noah's; because I'd love a fresh blue berry bagel with some creme cheese on it about now. It must be bad for the big chains to be trying that, wow.
I wish we had a law like that here. It's so bad here I've seen people texting while driving. That can't be much safer than driving drunk.
Tests have shown that talking using a cellphone you have to hold up to your head while driving creates a sort of recklessness comparable to drunk driving. I've never seen people text on the highways or anything though, just in parking lots.
Noah's Bagels has always been like this, actually. If people find out you're a big company, your cover is blown permanently. There are other bagel chains too; I know of Western Bagel and Manhattan Bagels. (Neither hide the fact that they're big companies.)
Yeah. I believe the Mythbusters did a show on cell phones and driving actually. I can't remember the conclusion they came to, but I bet it agrees with what your saying. People in this city (and everywhere else I'm sure) have absolutely no consideration for others.
It would be nice if we had any kind of bagel chain here. For as big as this town is, it is really quite empty. We have a population of about 100,000, and we just barely have anything.
One thing I remember is a substitute school bus driver: She talked on the cell phone the whole way through, from when we got on the bus at the school until the last stop, where I got off. It terrified me, especially since she never stopped for any left turns. A school bus driver is probably THE worst job to drive talking on the phone.
Odd that you don't have a bagel chain, since it sounds like Western Bagel and Manhattan Bagel should serve different halves of the country.
I would have been scared as well to be sure. Probably to the point of simply closing my eyes, hanging on, and trying to relax for the (hopefully remote) possibility of a crash. You would think taking the lives of others into your care would promote extra care.
There are a lot of chains establishments that we don't have here. Or when we do have a chain, they are placed incredibly far away from each other. We don't even have a Papa John's within 50 minutes of where I live.
A lot of bus drivers are irresponsible. Well, school bus drivers, at least. The ones who work for public transportation and private businesses seem to be great people, as are some school bus drivers, but for some reason, I encounter a lot of eccentric school bus drivers (in a abd kind of way).
Your city most likely doesn't have a far left-wing university complaining about everything, which is unusual that you'd have a low amount of chains.
About your DK Summit shortcut problems, I tried it out on the same kart with Rosalina. You need to keep running into the red fencing, and it'll level you off. I'm not sure how easy it will be with the Wii wheel, however.
Sure you can hit the red fencing, it even straightens you out. Problem is that it throws you into the air, and kills off most of your momentum. So while you can take the shortcut, it ends up being slower due to the two aforementioned problems.
I've tried it a fair few number of times, at least, enough to draw that conclusion. Also note that I did not test light or heavy karts as I don't use them, just medium (Daisy in the Wild Wing).
I'd absolutely love to be proven wrong however. Anything that can help to even up karts to the big, bad bikes, is a great thing in my book =p.
I was told that even the slowest vehicles can do such a thing, meaning karts like the Cheep Charger and the Daytripper should be able to take them on.
Take them on as in take the DK Summit shortcut or take them on as in just standing a chance in a race?
Any vehicle has a chance in a race thanks to the items (So glad you can't turn them off). Some vehicles still of course have the advantage and will win more than their fair share (Bowser/Mach/Bullet bikes come to mind).
If your talking about the shortcut; I believe all vehicles can make it. The question, however, is wither the vehicle can turn tight enough to make it useful.
As in that those vehicles should be able to handle it, as it's been seen that the Quacker can make the jump. The Quacker has probably THE lowest top speed of any vehicle in the game. The karts I mentioned have great handling and should be able to recover fine.
Making it over isn't the hard part however. It's landing it and not smashing into the red tape or getting thrown into the air. I may just be bad at that particular shortcut. Or it may be my kart of choice, but I can never take that without being flug into the air and losing nearly all my speed.
If other karts can do it however, more power to them. I've just never been able to make it and put it to any use myself.
Much like myself actually. I like the concept of VR, trying to match you up against people who aren't to easy or aren't to hard, but I think they flummoxed a bit with the implementation. Unfortunate I also have no idea how to fix it without brawl-ifing it or turning it into a super competitive racer.
They seem to match people up in a way that a lot of people with extremely high VRs (like 9400 or more) are put with each other and the rest of the rooms have a lot of people with VRs below 6300 while mixing in one or two people with high VRs.
I personally think Mario Kart should do away with rankings completely. Items give it a sort of spontaneity that'll never allow the game to give a definite and consistent outcome.
I dunno, I have yet to see a race with more than 4 8-9k VR racers. I get the impression that VRs are more for bragging rights than anything else. It really doesn't seam to impact the type of room you join. I'm probably wrong though, VR wouldn't be there just for that, would be kinda pointless.
I wouldn't mind seeing the rankings fade into the sunset. I think that's one of the only ways to turn games from the competitive fests they have become, back into the fun, relaxing activities they were.
That's why SSBB has no leaderboards or rankings, or even personal records of wins and losses. Sakurai didn't want Smash Bros. to be competitive. There's a reason why there are Pokémon video game tournaments organized by Nintendo and none for Smash. All Smash tournaments are fan-organized.
I often find myself in "pro lounges," where there are people with very high VRs and maybe one or two with lower VRs. They attack me as often as they'd attack anyone else. My VR climbs quickly in these places.
Anyways, about the competative racers. I had to do a 1v1 race once against one, and I didn't stand a chance. Part of it was that as I was in 2nd place the whole time, I didn't get any useful items to help me get ahead. I decided to put down the wheel and go get some tea.
Another problem is that items don't scale well in 1v1 races. The person in second place tends to get hit by thunder-clouds all the time, and yet never gets anything to slow down the player in first. Whoever gets out ahead first will win nine times out of ten in a 1v1
People chastise Sakurai for that too. all over Gamefaqs and Smashboards, he has basically turned into a scapegoat. Which is very disheartening because I greatly enjoy what he did with brawl. I find it to be a much more entertaining game than Melee was.
People still claim Melee is better due to hit-stun and combos.
It must be nice to find rooms like that. It may simply be that I have bad luck of the draw. I treat all players equally, high or low VR, stars or no, I don't discriminate.
As mentioned above, I think the internet has caused people to become hypercompetitive, that when they find themselves with no way to prove they're better than someone else, they get frustrated. This has permeated even to IGN; one criticism of Brawl on their review states that there are no online leaderboards.
One trait of hypercompetitive people I've noted is that they're unable to understand noncompetitiveness. It doesn't make sense to them for someone to take a loss the same as a win.
Yeah, it's a bit frightening that the slightest imperfection might never be lived down. It's understandable if you're the President or something; your actions could mean the end of the world.
I really don't know what it is that's caused people to be so insecure that they have to belittle others to feel superior. I apply sportsmanship to everything I do; I treat everybody as equals. Of course, in a way, I'm doing a similar thing, distancing myself to feel superior from them.
Commercialization only hurts the product when they stop caring about the product, and start only caring about the money. Something Schulz never did, and Miyamoto never will.
Engineering can be scary like that, but the thought of helping others is what helps to push me forward. I want to help if I can. Would just near impossible to recover from a disaster the likes of the narrows bridge.
But treating everyone as equals doesn't hurt others, egoism does. Equalism seams the clear cut winner to me.
That's indeed the biggest flaw in Watterson's notion. It's been addressed to him a few times before, and he's never given a straight answer to it, even when he was still sane.
Are you familiar with Walter Benjamin, by any chance? He was a writer from the early 20th century who wrote, "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction," which states that the "aura" of a piece of art is diminished each time its likeness is placed on a foreign product, like a souvenir or a coffee mug.
The name sounds very, very familiar, but I don't remember the book title.
I believe that as long as the heart of the artist is in everything he does, and loves his creation, that its very hard to do wrong to it by intention. Unintentionally mistakes, of course, can of course be made.
While a reproduction of an original may not have as much monetary value. As long as the artist reproduced them to share their work, not make a quick buck. I believe reproductions to have no less "Aura".
The concept of artistic aura is just a matter of opinion anyway; it's taught into people, concepts like copies being worth less. You could sell art copies for the same price like Walter Kinkade.
One huge difference is that Benjamin wants "knockoffs" to happen whereas Watterson is against it. To Benjamin, the benefits outweigh the costs, which is accessibility of the art to a wider audience (thus having a greater total aura) and freedom from the elitism that the artists would have otherwise.
I can definitely see Benjamin's point of view here. Exposing more people to the wonders of a truly remarkable creation is just wonderful.
The elitism I can definitely relate to. A good friend of mine is an amateur artist, she does it mostly for fun. Another friend who has gone to art school asked to see some of her work. After seeing the work, she basically said they were awful. My friend was crushed because she respected this persons opinion. She had potential, but hasn't drawn since.
No, I mean elitism as in, "Only these people can see my artwork" for the reasons that access to see the artwork is limited. Merchandising, advertising, and mechanical reproduction raise awareness and bring accessibility to nearly everybody.
This sort of elitism still exists today; most artists don't mind people seeing photos of their work or pictures on the internet, but some people refuse because they want epople to make the effort. Like White Castle hamburgers and me living on the west coast.
Ahh. As in royalty and aristocratic. I get what your getting at now. The more the merrier when it comes to something like this I say. The more who can enjoy, the better.
Indeed. I live on the east coast, and there are no white castles in my area either. They have really good hamburgers from what I have heard however. I've even tried the frozen white castle burgers. They are pretty good.
Ugh, I can't stand the frozen ones. When you microwave them, the buns get all soggy.
White Castle seems to be a mostly Midwest thing. Here in California, there's a chain called In-N-Out that has similarly legendary burgers, but it has an excuse in that it doesn't freeze its meat. That means the trucks can only carry the meat so far. White Castle doesn't. The only reason I can think of why it restricts itself is this sort of elitism.
Really? I've had good luck with them, I may just have a good Microwave or something. Mine turn out with the buns lightly crispy (like they were toasted) with the meat piping hot. Not near as good as they would be fresh I'm sure.
At least In-N-Out has an excuse. If they don't have a WC there, the fact that they advertise is really arrogant of them.
Oh, I also have a friend who refuses to believe that Carl's Jr. franchise exists. So, do you have the legendary Carl's Jr. or another Hardee's?
They don't use the crisping sleeves. They might have gotten better freezing methods or something? I may just get lucky with the occasional box that I get.
Ha, thank you for confirming that. Maybe now he will finally believe me. I do know their menus differ slightly, but not much, there are about 5-6 sandwiches of difference? I think they are under different management as well
I don't know what's different, as I've never been to a Hardee's. I've only read about them. I know that while they're owned by the same company, they take different approaches. They're probably different in the same way that Best Foods Mayonnaise and Hellmann's Mayonnaise are: Because different areas are used to and grow to love certain foods.
I haven't gotten any of those frozen burgers in a while; they just cost so much more, and no one really buys them.
Just a few sandwiches are different I believe. For instance, Carl's Jr. still has the famous star burgers, as well as more variants of the six dollar burger. Hardee's have more 1/3 an 1/2 pound options. I personally prefer the six dollar burger and would much rather have a Carls Jr. than a Hardee's but beggars can't be choosers I guess.
Mates of mine get them fairly regularly, but don't check the boxes for coupons. I do and only pick up a box when I snatch up said discarded coupon.
For Six Dollar Burgers? I think Carl's Jr. has six varieties at a time and that they rotate them with a new kind about twice per year.
One thing that I find at least a bit interesting is that some Carl's Jr. restaurants are merged with Green Burrito restaurants. Obviously, they serve Tex-Mex food; I get the feeling that southwestern food is considerably less common outside of the southwest.
I use it from time to time. The problem is that I can't see ahead of me, and I don't know if my timing would be off and I fall off the course, or if there's an item I'm about to hit that I didn't see the previous lap.
None taken. My VR is deceptively low. It's partially intentional and partially because I had about two weeks of really bad router problems that caused me to get disconnected from nearly every race within the first lap.
You mentioned the Grumble Glitch. I raced against a guy and his guest who attempted to drive around the rock. The guy was a great racer, and I guess his guest just wanted to follow him. Neither of them succeeded in performing the shortcut, so the rock sunk into the lava before they could finish. Meanwhile, myself and another racer ended up lapping them...so...whoever chooses to attempt the shortcut is really gutsy.
I've never seen anyone attempt the one at Mushroom Gorge though.
Not really. MH stands for "Mario Heaven," which he did to identify himself in a team race between Mario Heaven and the NDA on Monday. I guess he simply never bothered to remove the tag.
Aw, way to be misleading, man! The more clan members on my friends list, the more satisfying it is to play the game since clan members usually have the best skill.
Like KOK, I completely forgot to remove the [MH] tag when I went online the other day. I wonder if those cause more people to target you because I sure got pummelled until I took it off.
I was actually just about to comment on how to do it before reading this:
Start your turn later, In a kart (At least, the Wild Wing), a bit before the normal turn, you wont hit the grade as drastically and fly into the air. Instead you will stick to the ground, cut some time off your lap, and not hit anything on the way out.
Kinda. You actually want to avoid that really steep part, that's what launches you into the air. What you want to do is cut the corner tight enough to save a few seconds, but wide enough to avoid the really steep grade.
In your video, you simply took the shortcut to early, and with a vehicle with good acceleration, its probably faster to do it your way. But in a Wild Wing, or anything with bad acceleration; you want to start your shortcut turn just before the normal turn.
I don't think there are any shortcuts just after the bridge, but you can indeed cut the hairpin in the cave with a mushroom or any other terrain negating item. You just have to start your turn later (Just before the hairpin) to avoid being throw into the air and hitting the other side of the cave.
If you have good acceleration however, nail that curve as tight as you can and take the launch.
Also: I love the wing flapping animation on the cheep charger when it gets a speed boost
Its also on the wild wing (My kart of choice). I've lost races by watching said animation and crashing hard, although thankfully I am usually paying enough attention to both race and watch the wing flap. I must say that it is much more pronounced on the cheep charger than it is on the wild wind.
I wonder... Besides those two vehicles, do any other karts/bikes get any kind of extra animation on speed boosts? Besides of course the flames that all vehicles get.
I think its called the baby booster, or maybe the booster seat? I get the EU and US versions of the vehicles mixed up all the time. I think the EU names are a lot better than the ones we got for the most part.
So that's 3 vehicles that do something special besides the standard flames. Wonder if it is indeed limited to those three.
Automatic is also a lot harder than you make it look. I may just be to use to manual, but I could not use automatic to save my life. Orange MT's are also fun =p
The Piranha Prowler very slightly opens and closes its mouth. I don't know what causes it to do so, since you can't see it when you're actually playing.
I didn't use Automatic at all during the first two months I played it. Automatic is probably best suited for the Wii Wheel, as it's all about very specific angles whereas Manual is about picking an angle, then fine-adjusting it.
I think the prowler might actually do that regardless of any action the player takes. Sort of like the vibrating engine on the mini beast.
I tried playing with the Whiil, but I had gotten far to use to a game called Kart Rider, and that game had some -very- complex drifting commands. I probably over thunk my actions with the Whiil. I found a happy medium with using the mote and chuck, and starting my drifts extremely early and simply adjusting as I go. I can take corners as tight as most bikes.
That's how manual outward drifting works, definitely. People tell me that when they're used to inward drifting, then go back to outward drifting, they run into walls all the time.
I have 100% Wii Wheel usage. I've never played this game on any other control scheme for even a millisecond. The Wii Wheel is slowly going out of popularity as part of the mad dash to get ahead of other people through their VRs. I'm sometimes the only Wii Wheel user in a room.
I actually really enjoy seeing Whiil users in the rooms I end up in, especially when they can give me a run for my money. I respect good Whiil users quite a bit. I know first hand how hard it is to use the Whiil.
Outward drifting is a hoot. I love how I can be competitive with bikes on most tracks because of how I take turns. I usually end up with more orange MT's than I do blue. Orange MT's are so fast
In fact. I'm only about 2 seconds off the bike world record on Circuit 3 with my Wild Wing.
That's remarkable! You've clearly mastered outward drifting, as well as karts as a whole. People are afraid to use karts, I'll bet, because multitudes of bike purists have conditioned the remaiing population into thinking the choice of a kart is the equivalent to forfeiting.
I only had trouble with the Wii Wheel the first day I played. I seemed to have picked it up very quickly. I know it's not for everybody, but I didn't expect so many people to struggle with it.
You flatter me =p. I'm good, but I definitely don't think I have mastered it yet, let alone even become great at it.
In a given race with a VR that hovers in the high 8000's; I generally see less than 5 karts in an hours worth of playtime.
Most bike enthusiasts laugh off karts, as you so eloquently put it, as an automatic forfeit. But outside of a few courses; I can definitely hold my own.
My biggest VR killer is that I have 3 stars and use karts. It's like I have a target stapled to my back.
I don't know if my usage of karts causes me to get targeted, but stuff like the Cheep Charger shrugs off attacks. Too bad it's particularly vulnerable to slipstreams.
Some people also laugh off Wii Wheel usage in the same way, though this isn't as vehemently defended since some of the world records are done with the Wii Wheel.
I think the finishing blow to kart usage online, however, came when the last remaining world record done with a kart, DK Mountain, was toppled by Daisy in the Mach Bike.
Karts get targeted more than bikes. I've actually devoted some time to testing this. Using similar vehicles (Wild Wing vs. Mach Bike), and getting similar times; I find myself getting hit about 7 less times a race.
The most obvious reasons I can think of are: "Karts are inferior, that person is ahead of me in a kart, lets take him down", "If I take him out I wont see him again the rest of the race", or "Karts users try to bump me while I wheelie"
While the DK Mountain time was certainly non to helpful, I honestly think what killed karts are the shortcuts on tracks like DK Mountain and DK Summit. They can cut up to 3 seconds off each lap time, and karts simply can not pull those shortcuts off.
Bikes also have overall stat totals that are higher than their kart counterparts.
And the fact that given equal skill, a bike will always win over a kart unless the bike user messes up quite badly.
If that's true, I wonder why Nintendo designed them that way. Fast staff ghosts are divided roughly evenly between karts and bikes.
One thing I do know is that it's far far easier to master wheelies on a bike than it is to master super mini-turbos on a kart.
I think those shortcuts are doable if you're using Automatic on a kart, however. There've been a small group of really good kart users leaving bikers in the dust; a lot of them use Automatic.
They probably just didn't take into account just how strong wheelies are in comparison to orange MT's.
An orange MT lasts about 2.5x longer than a blue MT, so karts have the advantage in turns and disadvantage in straightaways, yes? No, because when you wheelie out of a blue MT, you get a speed boos that is roughly equal to 2 blue MTs. So Karts, on the curves they can actually get orange MT's, get the advantage removed by a wheelie out of a blue MT.
You may be able to do the DK Mountain shortcut with a kart on automatic, but I don't think you can do the DK Summit shortcut with a kart period. I can land it, but due to the way that karts drift, I simply can not land the jump without losing more time than it takes simply going around the curve.
There are unfortunately still a handful of other shortcuts that bikes can take that karts simply aren't able to.
What I feel shoud've been done to balance out karts and bikes was to prevent bikes from doing mini-turbos--that is, putting them on some sort of stunted Automatic. Or possibly something else, I don't know. One thing I've observed that gives bikes an edge is the ability to sneak up on people via wheelies and slipstream them, as well as the ability to cancel a wheelie instantly by hopping.
I've seen marinaneon2 do the DK Summit shortcut with a kart. I forget which though.
Also, thanks for experimenting on if karts do get singled out or not. I had wondered that if true, people are thinking, "There's no way I'm going to get beaten by a kart user. I'm going to blast this person away," sometimes with cooperation from a nearby guest.
By the way, the Moonview Highway world record is done on Automatic.
I've thought about ways to try and balance karts and bikes further, and that's one of the main ways of balancing I have thought of. that or something similar to Kart Riders method of drifting, where after a few MT's, you get a mushroom (or N2O in Kart Rider). Speaking of KR, I must say that it had some really good item ideas.
I can pull the shortcut off in a Wild Wing, but I land funny and end up getting tossed into the air and losing most of my speed.
No problem, I do weird experiments all the time just to see how people react. For instance, did you know that if you crash a taunt party in brawl, there is about a 70% chance of the other 3 players ganging up to you? Or if you protect and kill yourself to keep scores even when there is someone AFK in team battles that there is only about a 30% of the favor being repaid when your teamed with said AFKer?
I've seen that Moonview record. MT's on that track burn more time than they save, hence auto.
It still doesn't prevent behavior from other players, considering you say that choosing a kart essentially puts you in the position of Speed Racer...or turns everybody else into Dick Dastardly.
People who crash taunt parties rarely win anyway. What's pretty amusing is that the crasher, regardless of the outcome, is always the one who emerges out the angriest. Do you know how unpopular these sort of matches are among a lot of people?
Dick Dastardly, hah. I remember the cartoon he was in quite well, pity I can't remember the name of it. The classics of childhood.
I've even tried racing both better and worse with both bikes and karts, and no matter how bad I do in a kart, its still worse than when I'm doing my best in a bike. I still love karts however, giant targets or not.
I always wonder what goes through the head of someone who crashes a taunt party. Most crashes aren't very good anyways, and are usually Ikes.
You mean that thing where she reaches her hand up someone's shirt? (Does she do this with Zelda, Zero Suit Samus, and another Peach too?)
Dick Dastardly was from Wacky Races. I have no doubt Mario Kart was inspired from that, since Wacky Races was very popular in Japan. And in Double Dash, Waluigi's kart resembled the Mean Machine, based off of Waluigi's visual resemblance.
I go to GameFAQs, and I see a lot of topics of people complaining that some people like to mess around. I don't get it.
That just makes her grab hold animation all the better actually XD. I can't believe I missed that. I always thought she just looked almost identical to Daisy in the MKWii selection screen while holding someone.
Synchronicity hits a home run here. Ironic that as we talk about Wacky Races; Deceased Crab has just started to upload a Let's Play of it.
I frequent the GameFAQ forums quite often myself, even tried to get an FAQ or two posted, but I'm not very good at padding my work so
they never get accepted upon the basis of them being to short. But I was never very good in English anyways. I'd take a complex equation of a sentence diagram any day.
I don't get the hate for taunt parties myself. Really the only reason I could see for such contempt is that they assume that tourney level players can't stand them, and thus its the cool thing to do to hate on them. Yet check smashboards and they are held in a much higher regard than they are on GameFAQs
Are you talking about that recently-released Wacky Races for the Xbox 360? Wacky Races has a lot of potential to be a great video game. Many attempts have been made, but I havent heard of a case that stood out so far.
Smashboards likes the taunt parties? That's good. I've figured the hate from GameFAQs comes from people who want to battle and can't stand it when they get something else. They always seem to say that if you participate in a taunt party, you're not good enough to play well.
Talking about a fellow 'tuber, DeceasedCrab. No more than a few hours after Wacky Races was brought up, he began a Let's Play of the old Wacky Races NES game.
Not everyone does, but a fair number of them do. I bet the people who seam to hate taunt parties are people of mediocre skill who think that they are "Pros". That term is thrown around way to loosely for my tastes. Everyone who had a bit of skill and an ego think themselves a "Pro". There is always someone better than you out there
Yep, that was a phrase I first heard in Batman, and I think it holds true--there's no such thing as an unbeatable person. I see the word "hardcore" thrown around a lot too or the same reasons. It probably comes from narcissism.
Hardcore probably comes from the Hardcore vs Casual gamer debate, which I think is stupid. What does it matter if you play Gears of War or Halo vs something like MKWii or NiGHTS?
They say chivalry is dead, and I guess modesty is too. Everyone wants to be the best, or thinks they are the best. What ever happened to just wanting to be pretty good, or having fun for that matter.
For that matter, games like Professor Layton blur the distinction between hardcore and casual, as it's so unorthodox that it can be both. Hardcore and casual gaming gets defined within the same game too; in the context of SSBB, a hardcore gamer hangs out in an enclosed group whereas a casual gamer spends much of the time on "With Anyone." I'd rather be a casual gamer than a hardcore one, really, if hardcore gamers have this sort of attitude.
...there's a quote from Calvin and Hobbes that I think sums up the mindset of too many people nowadays, spoken by one of Calvin's angry baseball-mates:
"Games are only fun when you win. And now you're going to make us LOSE."
The internet has somehow caused a lot of people to lose satisfaction over the game and make everyone seem to think the outcome is all that matters. People even apply this sort of competitiveness to things that shouldn't even be competitive, like origami or Rorschach tests.
I don't consider myself Hardcore or Casual, I just consider myself a gamer. There is not a single genre of game out there that I honestly dislike. From Tetris to Final Fantasy, No More Heroes to The Conduit, Viewtiful Joe to Wii Sports.
As long as you enjoy games, I don't see the need for distinction between one type of gamer vs another type.
It plays back into the ego thing I bet. Probably fulfills some smug sense of self satisfaction to call yourself Hardcore and bash the casuals.
Ha, it's nice to see another Calvin and Hobbes fan, I remember that strip panel for panel. Catching the fly for the other team was an awesome touch. Bill Watterson was a genius. I also loved the fact that he used a deep vocabulary in some strips.
I tend to blame FPS games for that more than I do the internet, but it may well be. Competitiveness is fine, but when the results are all that matters, you've lost something along the way.
I had a friend who wanted to race me in the various labs we had, guy was smart too, but he cared more about winning than absorbing the material.
First few labs he beat me fairly handedly. Next few labs we were neck and neck, but I was working slow enough to absorb the material, he was just plugging away. This continued all the way up through the Final lab (Building a simple computer out of chips and resistors)
We both passed but I got a lot more out of the class than he did. Poor guy.
I don't like Bill Watterson as a person, but I certainly enjoyed Calvin & Hobbes. The only major book I'm missing is the leather-bound complete series, which is $120 and beyond what I can afford.
By the way, the phrase, "Whinning isn't everything; it's the only thing" began as a joke. So I snicker whenever someone uses that saying.
Do you mean science experiments as in "labs"? I'm not sure where winning is to be had from assignments, but I've known some people who were competitive for grades.
Oh? What about him do you not like? I personally only know him from Calvin and Hobbes and what I have read on Wiki, I thought that's all he was known for. That's the only book I lack as well.
I wasn't aware of the origins of that phrase before. Ha, it just makes the play to win crowd all the more obtuse. That's great, ha.
Indeed, Electrical labs, He prided himself on being the first to finish, but never took the time to really absorb the information. Going through the motions basically
Well, speed is something that big corporations want to see, though I'm sure understanding what you're doing takes higher priority.
Bill Watterson is a strict anti-commercialist and has a few psychological problems. The former is why you see no merchandise of Calvin and Hobbes; the latter is why he's hermited himself and burns his paintings as soon as he finishes them to make sure no one sees them. I disagree with his thoughts of capitalism as an evil machine and money as the devil incarnate.
He chose to move away to a secret location in New Mexico. He does not use electricity or gas and communicates only with his family.
For a while, he paid tribute to his fans by autographing a few Calvin and Hobbes books at a local Barnes and Nobles, though he immediately quit when he found out they were being sold on eBay at high prices.
He also accepts interviews from people, but only through the eyeholes in the door and he always checks to make sure no writing materials are present.
I would rather be a slow and safe engineer over a fast one any day. I always think of the Tacoma Narrows Disaster when I think of speed engineering. Nasty stuff that is, I don't think I could recover if something I did caused a disaster like that, intentional or no.
Wow, I knew he was reclusive and a bit of a hermit but that's taking it to the extreme, and quite an extreme at that. Genius and Madness are but a heartbeat apart I guess. While that lowers my opinion of him, C&H is still awesome.
Yeah, I don't like his philosophy, but I certainly enjoyed Calvin and Hobbes while they lasted.
It all revolves around his philosophy of commercialization dumbing down the original product, which Charles Schulz proved utterly false long before Calvin and Hobbes began and Shigeru Miyamoto is still disproving today.
Of course, in the latter case, the Japanese LOVE commercialization, not to mention "ganbarimasu," a cultural obligation to put your heart into everything you do.
In essence, he tries to distance himself away from any usage of money as possible. Obviously, living in this location, he doesn't have a job; he lives off of his family and of the forest. Something has caused him to go paranoid.
I don't hate Bill Watterson, per se; but I would strongly disagree on his views on commercialism, money, and people as a whole. It's odd he would admire Charles Schulz, who licensed Peanuts products left and right without much care.
nah, i almost always use karts, and bikes, but mostly karts, and i can master all drifts. my only problem is that i suffer from disconnections, so my Vr, has never gone over 6000
Nah. I can't play at all with the auto wii wheel. But I am (currently) used to using Koopa's normal kart (I forget what it's called)automatic, on gamecube controller.
Are Baby Peach and Baby Daisy really one of the newcomers in this game?
deathboy126 1 year ago
@deathboy126 Baby Daisy, yes. Baby Peach, no. She previously appeared in Mario Power Tennis, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, and Yoshi's Island DS.
Overhazard 1 year ago
if any body wants to join a pro clan called ncb ask me!!!!
haydenrockstucson 2 years ago
Grumble Volcano kinda reminds me of Melty Molten Galaxy from Mario Galaxy.
bzcoolness 2 years ago
Oh. It sounded like a TV program. I've certainly heard of "Fast Food Nation."
Overhazard 3 years ago
We Hardee's users get a single solitary six dollar, no specials varieties or anything. We do have some different 1/3 pound burgers however. I think Carl's Jr. gets the better end of the deal though.
I've never heard of Green Burrito restaurants. I'm not a big fan of Tex-Mex anyways.
Indeed, I hadn't heard of In-N-Out before you mentioned it, and I like the Food Network.
There is actually a movie called "Fast Food Nation", might be where you have heard it from. It sounded familiar to me too.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
I'm not sure how big the Six Dollar Burger is, so I can't really compare. I almost never get a Six Dollar Burger anyway.
I've seen the book "Fast Food Nation" at various Borders bookstores; it was a pretty hot seller for a while, but no amount of this Morgan Spurlock business will ever make a lasting impact on the fast food business. Americans are in too big of a hurry for anything else.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I'm not sure how big it is either... Its usually my food of choice on the occasional time I go to my local Hardee's. I do not, however, get fries or anything with it, which helps. Just the burger, and then I usually just get some water to drink back at the house. Try and keep it from being extremely unhealthy at least.
Indeed. As long as you can get in and get out in under 5 minutes, there will always be a business for fast food.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Which makes some of the more popular local places, In-N-Out definitely being one, a bit slower than some pople would've liked. It takes about 20 minutes of waiting, since there are always so many people waiting for their food with you.
On another note, In-N-Out is also a visually striking example of automobile dependency in southern California: Look at any In-N-Out, and as long as it isn't like 3 AM, the line of cars often stretches out way into the street. Some In-N-Outs lack dining areas.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I've never minded waiting for food. My mate refuse to go to the local Long John Silver, because they take about 15 minutes to get your order (They don't heat-lamp for some reason. Which is very nice, makes their food taste better).
My folks aren't any better either. 20 minutes in a restaurant and they leave if the food isn't out.
Ugh. I hate driving to the point that I walk to any place local when I can. My allergies prevent me from doing so in the summer, but I walk everywhere in the winter.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
I intended to say my MATES, not Mate. Normally I wouldn't bother correcting but that is a bad little typo.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
One thing I know is that most drive-thrus refuse service to those who come by on foot due to robbers. Luckily, for those without cars, In-N-Outs without dining areas (which make up about 90% of the ones I've seen) have a counter you go up to, though you'll have to take your food somewhere else.
There's a ridiculous amount of oil absorbed into Long John Silver's...at least the one I've gone to.
Have you seen Who Framed Roger Rabbit? It discusses the replacement of Red Cars with the highways.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Indeed, All our local places have indoor areas. I'd never think of walking up to a drive-thru. Not because of that, but simply because it would never cross my mind. Who walks through a drive-thru?? Its nice it has a counter though, for us pedestrians.
Normally I would agree with you, but our local one is awesome. 100% health rating, really friendly employees. Best one I've seen.
Long long ago I saw that movie. Its be so long however that I don't remember a thing about it.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
There IS how drive-thrus tend to be open far later than the dining areas though, and some people just want to buy some food at, say, 1 AM. Sonic is another place that's pretty much all drive-thru; the dining area is the parking spaces around the place. I've never been to a Sonic, so I don't know how they deal with pedestrians.
There's only one Long John Silver's that has ever existed around here, by the way.
In Roger Rabbit, Judge Doom wanted to create a highway system to cause car dependency.
Overhazard 3 years ago
If you don't feel like watching through the whole movie again, Judge Doom wanted to eliminate Toontown for reasons unknown until the end.
(Spoilers)
It was because Toontown stood in the path for the new highway system. He bought up the Red Car trolley system through Cloverfield, his dummy corporation, to dismantle them. With no viable means of going places other than automobiles, he would make a fortune selling cars.
Other than Toontown, this is really what happened to Los Angeles.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I'm not sure about all sonic restaurants, but our sonic has a small indoor area. Basically its an enclosed counter. They take a fair amount of time to cook your food as well. Our sonic isn't doing to well because of this, probably going to close soon.
We have a few around. However we do only have one location for both of my favorite fast food joints; Arby's and Zaxby's. Unfortunately both are a good 30 minute drive from my flat.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
I'd love to see the movie again actually, but it's not going to be on local TV for at least the next two weeks. It's probably been uploaded to youtube, just gota find it.
That sounds pretty awful. I'm sure the air quality in L.A. if horrible because of this too, and that in turn probably makes the air in that hot region even hotter. I wouldn't even mind cars as much if we could get on a clean energy source. Here's to MIT's new solar energy break through, maybe that will help.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
By the way, the city of San Luis Obispo in central California prohibits drive-thrus. I'm glad they did something like that; the restaurants there seem to do fine without them. Drive-thrus are a hassle, especially when you have to pay exact change.
I've never heard of Zaxby's, but there are a few Arby's around here. Not at my university's town though. It's the biggest small town I've ever seen. I can explain later.
Southern California is probably the one place where solar-powered cars can work.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I agree. We as a nation have food to readily accessible anyways. One of the reasons we are so overweight as a nation. Even that small walk you would have to make from parking outside and walking in to place your order, could help I'm sure.
Zaxby's is a kinda like a more refined chick-fil-a. They have a really good chicken salad sandwich. It sounds similar to where I live. It's the smallest and emptiest big city I've ever seen.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
With that breakthrough MIT recently discovered though, I think they could work anywhere. They basically found a way to replicate photosynthesis, and in the process, create hydrogen. I was initially against hydrogen as an alternative fuel due to how impractical it was. That thinking changed a great deal when i found this little discovery of MIT's.
Now all we have to do is find a good way to store the Hydrogen, and use it safely. The sooner we get off oil, the better.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
And people love their cars so much that they never want to be too far away from them. Often too much. Street narcissism is really annoying.
Anyway, Santa Cruz stretches for miles and miles and has a population of about 60,000, but an overwhelming amount of its stores are local businesses. This is because of the university students protesting and actively repelling the chain stores from coming in. This, of course, creates unexpected results: Local businesses price-gauge knowing their loyal base.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I mean, I like small business and all, but many of the students favor them so much that they pay for a $17 salad and willingly take any excuse the business owners tell them. You can smell the favoritism like garlic. I'm not exaggerating either; many of the stores post their prices out on the front windows, and I check them out.
I don't know about you, but I think all big businesses were once small businesses; they merely got successful enough and made wise choices to expand.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Haven't you heard? Car's are this years latest gangsta fashion accessory! (Sarcasm). That stuff gets to me too. As long as my hunk o' junk van can get me from point A to point B, the rest is gravy.
That sounds awful. I'm all for supporting local shops but not when they pull stuff like that. That's incredibly devious. Thinking about that makes my brain hurt.
I agree with you that nearly all big business started out small. They just made the right choices and made a bundle. Good for them I say.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Yeah, small business owners have an image of being honest, down-to-earth, and friendly people. That image, of course, is largely false; they're just as susceptible to greed as big business owners and have ways of manipulating people big business owners can't.
Regarding street narcissism, I think it's only southern Californian. Every time I want to change lanes and there's someone there, that person matches my speed when I speed up. People seem to really hate being passed on the freeways.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Greed can truly corrupt people, and no one is immune from its grasp. Trying to earn an honest dollar is commendable. Trying to earn $17 for a salad isn't. It must be garnished with gold to cost that much (Sarcasm).
Oh no, I can assure you that its prevalent at least on the east coast too. You pass some people, and you have just made an enemy. And people on Cell's are the worst. They don't even look, they drive as if they are the only ones on the road. I've narrowly avoided accidents with them.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Or that salad's got to be the size of my backpack...which would be way too much to just eat right there. (I've seen some big busineeses emulate small business styles, like plain-text signs, lots of wooden textures inside, and spacing out of separate stores so people don't ordinarily notice. Noah's Bagels is one such case. Are you familiar with it?)
Driving with a cell phone is now illegal in Los Angeles. The fine is $500. I saw a sharp decline, but some people still chirp anyway.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Now serving single serving salads in punch bowls! Ranch dressing by the liters!
I've not heard of Noah's Bagels actually. We only have Krispy Kreme and Dunkin' Donuts as far as bakery-ish chains go. Wish we had a Noah's; because I'd love a fresh blue berry bagel with some creme cheese on it about now. It must be bad for the big chains to be trying that, wow.
I wish we had a law like that here. It's so bad here I've seen people texting while driving. That can't be much safer than driving drunk.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Tests have shown that talking using a cellphone you have to hold up to your head while driving creates a sort of recklessness comparable to drunk driving. I've never seen people text on the highways or anything though, just in parking lots.
Noah's Bagels has always been like this, actually. If people find out you're a big company, your cover is blown permanently. There are other bagel chains too; I know of Western Bagel and Manhattan Bagels. (Neither hide the fact that they're big companies.)
Overhazard 3 years ago
Yeah. I believe the Mythbusters did a show on cell phones and driving actually. I can't remember the conclusion they came to, but I bet it agrees with what your saying. People in this city (and everywhere else I'm sure) have absolutely no consideration for others.
It would be nice if we had any kind of bagel chain here. For as big as this town is, it is really quite empty. We have a population of about 100,000, and we just barely have anything.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
One thing I remember is a substitute school bus driver: She talked on the cell phone the whole way through, from when we got on the bus at the school until the last stop, where I got off. It terrified me, especially since she never stopped for any left turns. A school bus driver is probably THE worst job to drive talking on the phone.
Odd that you don't have a bagel chain, since it sounds like Western Bagel and Manhattan Bagel should serve different halves of the country.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I would have been scared as well to be sure. Probably to the point of simply closing my eyes, hanging on, and trying to relax for the (hopefully remote) possibility of a crash. You would think taking the lives of others into your care would promote extra care.
There are a lot of chains establishments that we don't have here. Or when we do have a chain, they are placed incredibly far away from each other. We don't even have a Papa John's within 50 minutes of where I live.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
A lot of bus drivers are irresponsible. Well, school bus drivers, at least. The ones who work for public transportation and private businesses seem to be great people, as are some school bus drivers, but for some reason, I encounter a lot of eccentric school bus drivers (in a abd kind of way).
Your city most likely doesn't have a far left-wing university complaining about everything, which is unusual that you'd have a low amount of chains.
(Let's distill these posts into a message...)
Overhazard 3 years ago
Texting while driving?
TemaShika24 3 years ago
Apparently...and people don't see anything wrong with that.
Overhazard 3 years ago
0.0 I'd call them stupid, but by the time I say that, they'd already be in a car crash.
TemaShika24 3 years ago
@Overhazard On the 3rd race, was stevieeee1 playing as Funky Kong or Daisy?
deathboy126 1 year ago
wow you guys have long conversation ;0
BleachFanatic99 3 years ago
Don't worry. It's been moved somewhere else.
Overhazard 3 years ago
lol
BleachFanatic99 3 years ago
Well, I've never heard of a "Chew On This!" program. I've never seen In-N-Out mentioned on the Food Network either.
Overhazard 3 years ago
About your DK Summit shortcut problems, I tried it out on the same kart with Rosalina. You need to keep running into the red fencing, and it'll level you off. I'm not sure how easy it will be with the Wii wheel, however.
Azurekate 3 years ago
Sure you can hit the red fencing, it even straightens you out. Problem is that it throws you into the air, and kills off most of your momentum. So while you can take the shortcut, it ends up being slower due to the two aforementioned problems.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
That's a good point you have. I always seemed to have no problem with the momentum. I'll have to test this out more.
Azurekate 3 years ago
I've tried it a fair few number of times, at least, enough to draw that conclusion. Also note that I did not test light or heavy karts as I don't use them, just medium (Daisy in the Wild Wing).
I'd absolutely love to be proven wrong however. Anything that can help to even up karts to the big, bad bikes, is a great thing in my book =p.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
I was told that even the slowest vehicles can do such a thing, meaning karts like the Cheep Charger and the Daytripper should be able to take them on.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Take them on as in take the DK Summit shortcut or take them on as in just standing a chance in a race?
Any vehicle has a chance in a race thanks to the items (So glad you can't turn them off). Some vehicles still of course have the advantage and will win more than their fair share (Bowser/Mach/Bullet bikes come to mind).
If your talking about the shortcut; I believe all vehicles can make it. The question, however, is wither the vehicle can turn tight enough to make it useful.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
As in that those vehicles should be able to handle it, as it's been seen that the Quacker can make the jump. The Quacker has probably THE lowest top speed of any vehicle in the game. The karts I mentioned have great handling and should be able to recover fine.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Making it over isn't the hard part however. It's landing it and not smashing into the red tape or getting thrown into the air. I may just be bad at that particular shortcut. Or it may be my kart of choice, but I can never take that without being flug into the air and losing nearly all my speed.
If other karts can do it however, more power to them. I've just never been able to make it and put it to any use myself.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
I should probably experiment myself, as I don't really give too much concern over VR.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Much like myself actually. I like the concept of VR, trying to match you up against people who aren't to easy or aren't to hard, but I think they flummoxed a bit with the implementation. Unfortunate I also have no idea how to fix it without brawl-ifing it or turning it into a super competitive racer.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
They seem to match people up in a way that a lot of people with extremely high VRs (like 9400 or more) are put with each other and the rest of the rooms have a lot of people with VRs below 6300 while mixing in one or two people with high VRs.
I personally think Mario Kart should do away with rankings completely. Items give it a sort of spontaneity that'll never allow the game to give a definite and consistent outcome.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I dunno, I have yet to see a race with more than 4 8-9k VR racers. I get the impression that VRs are more for bragging rights than anything else. It really doesn't seam to impact the type of room you join. I'm probably wrong though, VR wouldn't be there just for that, would be kinda pointless.
I wouldn't mind seeing the rankings fade into the sunset. I think that's one of the only ways to turn games from the competitive fests they have become, back into the fun, relaxing activities they were.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
That's why SSBB has no leaderboards or rankings, or even personal records of wins and losses. Sakurai didn't want Smash Bros. to be competitive. There's a reason why there are Pokémon video game tournaments organized by Nintendo and none for Smash. All Smash tournaments are fan-organized.
I often find myself in "pro lounges," where there are people with very high VRs and maybe one or two with lower VRs. They attack me as often as they'd attack anyone else. My VR climbs quickly in these places.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Looks like I missed the conversation. Oh well.
Anyways, about the competative racers. I had to do a 1v1 race once against one, and I didn't stand a chance. Part of it was that as I was in 2nd place the whole time, I didn't get any useful items to help me get ahead. I decided to put down the wheel and go get some tea.
Azurekate 3 years ago
Most likely the person plays items completely defensively as well, so if you had caught up, there wouldn't be many items that would work anyway.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Another problem is that items don't scale well in 1v1 races. The person in second place tends to get hit by thunder-clouds all the time, and yet never gets anything to slow down the player in first. Whoever gets out ahead first will win nine times out of ten in a 1v1
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
People chastise Sakurai for that too. all over Gamefaqs and Smashboards, he has basically turned into a scapegoat. Which is very disheartening because I greatly enjoy what he did with brawl. I find it to be a much more entertaining game than Melee was.
People still claim Melee is better due to hit-stun and combos.
It must be nice to find rooms like that. It may simply be that I have bad luck of the draw. I treat all players equally, high or low VR, stars or no, I don't discriminate.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
As mentioned above, I think the internet has caused people to become hypercompetitive, that when they find themselves with no way to prove they're better than someone else, they get frustrated. This has permeated even to IGN; one criticism of Brawl on their review states that there are no online leaderboards.
One trait of hypercompetitive people I've noted is that they're unable to understand noncompetitiveness. It doesn't make sense to them for someone to take a loss the same as a win.
Overhazard 3 years ago
More and more people seam to be becoming that way unfortunately. I just hope that it doesn't become even more mainstream than it already has.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Yeah, it's a bit frightening that the slightest imperfection might never be lived down. It's understandable if you're the President or something; your actions could mean the end of the world.
I really don't know what it is that's caused people to be so insecure that they have to belittle others to feel superior. I apply sportsmanship to everything I do; I treat everybody as equals. Of course, in a way, I'm doing a similar thing, distancing myself to feel superior from them.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Commercialization only hurts the product when they stop caring about the product, and start only caring about the money. Something Schulz never did, and Miyamoto never will.
Engineering can be scary like that, but the thought of helping others is what helps to push me forward. I want to help if I can. Would just near impossible to recover from a disaster the likes of the narrows bridge.
But treating everyone as equals doesn't hurt others, egoism does. Equalism seams the clear cut winner to me.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
That's indeed the biggest flaw in Watterson's notion. It's been addressed to him a few times before, and he's never given a straight answer to it, even when he was still sane.
Are you familiar with Walter Benjamin, by any chance? He was a writer from the early 20th century who wrote, "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction," which states that the "aura" of a piece of art is diminished each time its likeness is placed on a foreign product, like a souvenir or a coffee mug.
Overhazard 3 years ago
The name sounds very, very familiar, but I don't remember the book title.
I believe that as long as the heart of the artist is in everything he does, and loves his creation, that its very hard to do wrong to it by intention. Unintentionally mistakes, of course, can of course be made.
While a reproduction of an original may not have as much monetary value. As long as the artist reproduced them to share their work, not make a quick buck. I believe reproductions to have no less "Aura".
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
The concept of artistic aura is just a matter of opinion anyway; it's taught into people, concepts like copies being worth less. You could sell art copies for the same price like Walter Kinkade.
One huge difference is that Benjamin wants "knockoffs" to happen whereas Watterson is against it. To Benjamin, the benefits outweigh the costs, which is accessibility of the art to a wider audience (thus having a greater total aura) and freedom from the elitism that the artists would have otherwise.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I can definitely see Benjamin's point of view here. Exposing more people to the wonders of a truly remarkable creation is just wonderful.
The elitism I can definitely relate to. A good friend of mine is an amateur artist, she does it mostly for fun. Another friend who has gone to art school asked to see some of her work. After seeing the work, she basically said they were awful. My friend was crushed because she respected this persons opinion. She had potential, but hasn't drawn since.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
No, I mean elitism as in, "Only these people can see my artwork" for the reasons that access to see the artwork is limited. Merchandising, advertising, and mechanical reproduction raise awareness and bring accessibility to nearly everybody.
This sort of elitism still exists today; most artists don't mind people seeing photos of their work or pictures on the internet, but some people refuse because they want epople to make the effort. Like White Castle hamburgers and me living on the west coast.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Ahh. As in royalty and aristocratic. I get what your getting at now. The more the merrier when it comes to something like this I say. The more who can enjoy, the better.
Indeed. I live on the east coast, and there are no white castles in my area either. They have really good hamburgers from what I have heard however. I've even tried the frozen white castle burgers. They are pretty good.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Ugh, I can't stand the frozen ones. When you microwave them, the buns get all soggy.
White Castle seems to be a mostly Midwest thing. Here in California, there's a chain called In-N-Out that has similarly legendary burgers, but it has an excuse in that it doesn't freeze its meat. That means the trucks can only carry the meat so far. White Castle doesn't. The only reason I can think of why it restricts itself is this sort of elitism.
I don't even know why it advertises here.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Really? I've had good luck with them, I may just have a good Microwave or something. Mine turn out with the buns lightly crispy (like they were toasted) with the meat piping hot. Not near as good as they would be fresh I'm sure.
At least In-N-Out has an excuse. If they don't have a WC there, the fact that they advertise is really arrogant of them.
Oh, I also have a friend who refuses to believe that Carl's Jr. franchise exists. So, do you have the legendary Carl's Jr. or another Hardee's?
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Maybe White Castle got better with microwaveable burgers. Or do they use those crisping sleeves now?
Yes, we have Carl's Jr. restaurants here. They have slightly different foods than Hardee's, despite having the same star mascot.
Overhazard 3 years ago
They don't use the crisping sleeves. They might have gotten better freezing methods or something? I may just get lucky with the occasional box that I get.
Ha, thank you for confirming that. Maybe now he will finally believe me. I do know their menus differ slightly, but not much, there are about 5-6 sandwiches of difference? I think they are under different management as well
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
I don't know what's different, as I've never been to a Hardee's. I've only read about them. I know that while they're owned by the same company, they take different approaches. They're probably different in the same way that Best Foods Mayonnaise and Hellmann's Mayonnaise are: Because different areas are used to and grow to love certain foods.
I haven't gotten any of those frozen burgers in a while; they just cost so much more, and no one really buys them.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Just a few sandwiches are different I believe. For instance, Carl's Jr. still has the famous star burgers, as well as more variants of the six dollar burger. Hardee's have more 1/3 an 1/2 pound options. I personally prefer the six dollar burger and would much rather have a Carls Jr. than a Hardee's but beggars can't be choosers I guess.
Mates of mine get them fairly regularly, but don't check the boxes for coupons. I do and only pick up a box when I snatch up said discarded coupon.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
For Six Dollar Burgers? I think Carl's Jr. has six varieties at a time and that they rotate them with a new kind about twice per year.
One thing that I find at least a bit interesting is that some Carl's Jr. restaurants are merged with Green Burrito restaurants. Obviously, they serve Tex-Mex food; I get the feeling that southwestern food is considerably less common outside of the southwest.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Lol I think I've raced a TJefferson on Regional some time recently! :0
Plantinus 3 years ago
I haven't raced on Regional recently though, at least within the past two weeks. Couldn't have been me.
Overhazard 3 years ago
How do you achieve a one star rank on Grand Prix?
MageCraze 3 years ago
Overhazard, do you use the "look behind" button very often? I know the button for it on the wii wheel is odd, but it might save you a few times.
Azurekate 3 years ago
I use it from time to time. The problem is that I can't see ahead of me, and I don't know if my timing would be off and I fall off the course, or if there's an item I'm about to hit that I didn't see the previous lap.
Overhazard 3 years ago
and overhazard is a pretty good racer
lordmiren 3 years ago
None taken. My VR is deceptively low. It's partially intentional and partially because I had about two weeks of really bad router problems that caused me to get disconnected from nearly every race within the first lap.
Overhazard 3 years ago
so its just one race, no offence or bad reply's but my vr is like 8987 and i usually come in first with mii, mach bike, and automatic.
lordmiren 3 years ago
Wow! You managed to pull off first place in one of the races! I'm impressed!
randomyoshi 3 years ago
awesome race
dumass1985 3 years ago
You mentioned the Grumble Glitch. I raced against a guy and his guest who attempted to drive around the rock. The guy was a great racer, and I guess his guest just wanted to follow him. Neither of them succeeded in performing the shortcut, so the rock sunk into the lava before they could finish. Meanwhile, myself and another racer ended up lapping them...so...whoever chooses to attempt the shortcut is really gutsy.
I've never seen anyone attempt the one at Mushroom Gorge though.
dembonez19 3 years ago
The MG one is much harder to pull off since you NEED a Mushroom to complete it. I haven't seen anyone attempt it either.
GV one however is hella easier to do (I've done it once in TT), but to hear or see someone screw it up on WiFi is very satisfying.
Falco18 3 years ago
marinaneon2 also has a 9999 VR.
Zadius895 3 years ago
i wannna see more of King Boo
he gets all the ladies with that tounge of his lmfao
CantTestMe 3 years ago
Roger that, more King Boo then. I like putting him in the Jetsetter at that because it looks like the Mach 5 when he's in it.
Overhazard 3 years ago
try the phantom
it looks like a bike that batman would use
CantTestMe 3 years ago
Then wouldn't you want someone who more closely resembles Batman?
Overhazard 3 years ago
the only other character that can make that bike black is dry bones but he cant use that bike
CantTestMe 3 years ago
Oh, I see. I thought you meant the overall design of it regardless of its color. So you want King Boo on the Phantom?
Overhazard 3 years ago
yee
i never sen anyone wit that combo yet
i use it but i only tried it on auto since im not use to the wii wheel yet
CantTestMe 3 years ago
I do the exact same thing, if only to give myself an excuse to sing the theme tune while driving.
♪Here-he-comes, here comes Boo-Racer/He's a spirit-on-wheels~♪
SCDifference 3 years ago
And who's Michael Phelps?
CDub7888 3 years ago
You're kidding me! Are you American?
Briners2021 3 years ago
The Olympic Swimmer at the 2008 Olympics.
TemaShika24 3 years ago
So it seems that K.O.K. is part of a clan now too. Interesting...
CDub7888 3 years ago
Not really. MH stands for "Mario Heaven," which he did to identify himself in a team race between Mario Heaven and the NDA on Monday. I guess he simply never bothered to remove the tag.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Yeah...I keep forgeting to remove the tag for some reason...probably cause I don't use the Mii Plaza at all.
Falco18 3 years ago
Aw, way to be misleading, man! The more clan members on my friends list, the more satisfying it is to play the game since clan members usually have the best skill.
CDub7888 3 years ago
Nope. I'm in my own personal clan: No one not named K.O.K. is aloud! >:)
Falco18 3 years ago
Like KOK, I completely forgot to remove the [MH] tag when I went online the other day. I wonder if those cause more people to target you because I sure got pummelled until I took it off.
dembonez19 3 years ago
Is there any way to not hit the roof of the tunnel on the shortcut
thedivingsheep 3 years ago
I was actually just about to comment on how to do it before reading this:
Start your turn later, In a kart (At least, the Wild Wing), a bit before the normal turn, you wont hit the grade as drastically and fly into the air. Instead you will stick to the ground, cut some time off your lap, and not hit anything on the way out.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Do you mean where the ground up to the top is at its steepest but still climbable?
Overhazard 3 years ago
Kinda. You actually want to avoid that really steep part, that's what launches you into the air. What you want to do is cut the corner tight enough to save a few seconds, but wide enough to avoid the really steep grade.
In your video, you simply took the shortcut to early, and with a vehicle with good acceleration, its probably faster to do it your way. But in a Wild Wing, or anything with bad acceleration; you want to start your shortcut turn just before the normal turn.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
As in the hairpin turn at the far end of the cave, then? I thought you meant the turn before that, like the turn right after the bridge.
I think vehicles like the Cheep Charger and the Quacker were meant to take shortcuts like these. They certainly won't be winning races without items.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I don't think there are any shortcuts just after the bridge, but you can indeed cut the hairpin in the cave with a mushroom or any other terrain negating item. You just have to start your turn later (Just before the hairpin) to avoid being throw into the air and hitting the other side of the cave.
If you have good acceleration however, nail that curve as tight as you can and take the launch.
Also: I love the wing flapping animation on the cheep charger when it gets a speed boost
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
I love it too. Keep an eye on marinaneon2, as she's planning on using the Cheep Charger in the near future (if she hasn't already).
Overhazard 3 years ago
Its also on the wild wing (My kart of choice). I've lost races by watching said animation and crashing hard, although thankfully I am usually paying enough attention to both race and watch the wing flap. I must say that it is much more pronounced on the cheep charger than it is on the wild wind.
I wonder... Besides those two vehicles, do any other karts/bikes get any kind of extra animation on speed boosts? Besides of course the flames that all vehicles get.
Man I wish I could record sometimes
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
The flapping wings was certainly something I didn't notice until I saw them in my recordings, and not until someone pointed it out for me.
It isn't a speed boost, but the baby carriage one (forgot the name) opens up its top when you're doing a trick.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I think its called the baby booster, or maybe the booster seat? I get the EU and US versions of the vehicles mixed up all the time. I think the EU names are a lot better than the ones we got for the most part.
So that's 3 vehicles that do something special besides the standard flames. Wonder if it is indeed limited to those three.
Automatic is also a lot harder than you make it look. I may just be to use to manual, but I could not use automatic to save my life. Orange MT's are also fun =p
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
"Booster Seat" definitely rings a bell.
The Piranha Prowler very slightly opens and closes its mouth. I don't know what causes it to do so, since you can't see it when you're actually playing.
I didn't use Automatic at all during the first two months I played it. Automatic is probably best suited for the Wii Wheel, as it's all about very specific angles whereas Manual is about picking an angle, then fine-adjusting it.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I think the prowler might actually do that regardless of any action the player takes. Sort of like the vibrating engine on the mini beast.
I tried playing with the Whiil, but I had gotten far to use to a game called Kart Rider, and that game had some -very- complex drifting commands. I probably over thunk my actions with the Whiil. I found a happy medium with using the mote and chuck, and starting my drifts extremely early and simply adjusting as I go. I can take corners as tight as most bikes.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
That's how manual outward drifting works, definitely. People tell me that when they're used to inward drifting, then go back to outward drifting, they run into walls all the time.
I have 100% Wii Wheel usage. I've never played this game on any other control scheme for even a millisecond. The Wii Wheel is slowly going out of popularity as part of the mad dash to get ahead of other people through their VRs. I'm sometimes the only Wii Wheel user in a room.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I actually really enjoy seeing Whiil users in the rooms I end up in, especially when they can give me a run for my money. I respect good Whiil users quite a bit. I know first hand how hard it is to use the Whiil.
Outward drifting is a hoot. I love how I can be competitive with bikes on most tracks because of how I take turns. I usually end up with more orange MT's than I do blue. Orange MT's are so fast
In fact. I'm only about 2 seconds off the bike world record on Circuit 3 with my Wild Wing.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
That's remarkable! You've clearly mastered outward drifting, as well as karts as a whole. People are afraid to use karts, I'll bet, because multitudes of bike purists have conditioned the remaiing population into thinking the choice of a kart is the equivalent to forfeiting.
I only had trouble with the Wii Wheel the first day I played. I seemed to have picked it up very quickly. I know it's not for everybody, but I didn't expect so many people to struggle with it.
Overhazard 3 years ago
You flatter me =p. I'm good, but I definitely don't think I have mastered it yet, let alone even become great at it.
In a given race with a VR that hovers in the high 8000's; I generally see less than 5 karts in an hours worth of playtime.
Most bike enthusiasts laugh off karts, as you so eloquently put it, as an automatic forfeit. But outside of a few courses; I can definitely hold my own.
My biggest VR killer is that I have 3 stars and use karts. It's like I have a target stapled to my back.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
I don't know if my usage of karts causes me to get targeted, but stuff like the Cheep Charger shrugs off attacks. Too bad it's particularly vulnerable to slipstreams.
Some people also laugh off Wii Wheel usage in the same way, though this isn't as vehemently defended since some of the world records are done with the Wii Wheel.
I think the finishing blow to kart usage online, however, came when the last remaining world record done with a kart, DK Mountain, was toppled by Daisy in the Mach Bike.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Karts get targeted more than bikes. I've actually devoted some time to testing this. Using similar vehicles (Wild Wing vs. Mach Bike), and getting similar times; I find myself getting hit about 7 less times a race.
The most obvious reasons I can think of are: "Karts are inferior, that person is ahead of me in a kart, lets take him down", "If I take him out I wont see him again the rest of the race", or "Karts users try to bump me while I wheelie"
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
While the DK Mountain time was certainly non to helpful, I honestly think what killed karts are the shortcuts on tracks like DK Mountain and DK Summit. They can cut up to 3 seconds off each lap time, and karts simply can not pull those shortcuts off.
Bikes also have overall stat totals that are higher than their kart counterparts.
And the fact that given equal skill, a bike will always win over a kart unless the bike user messes up quite badly.
Karts are an uphill battle
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
If that's true, I wonder why Nintendo designed them that way. Fast staff ghosts are divided roughly evenly between karts and bikes.
One thing I do know is that it's far far easier to master wheelies on a bike than it is to master super mini-turbos on a kart.
I think those shortcuts are doable if you're using Automatic on a kart, however. There've been a small group of really good kart users leaving bikers in the dust; a lot of them use Automatic.
Overhazard 3 years ago
They probably just didn't take into account just how strong wheelies are in comparison to orange MT's.
An orange MT lasts about 2.5x longer than a blue MT, so karts have the advantage in turns and disadvantage in straightaways, yes? No, because when you wheelie out of a blue MT, you get a speed boos that is roughly equal to 2 blue MTs. So Karts, on the curves they can actually get orange MT's, get the advantage removed by a wheelie out of a blue MT.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
You may be able to do the DK Mountain shortcut with a kart on automatic, but I don't think you can do the DK Summit shortcut with a kart period. I can land it, but due to the way that karts drift, I simply can not land the jump without losing more time than it takes simply going around the curve.
There are unfortunately still a handful of other shortcuts that bikes can take that karts simply aren't able to.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
What I feel shoud've been done to balance out karts and bikes was to prevent bikes from doing mini-turbos--that is, putting them on some sort of stunted Automatic. Or possibly something else, I don't know. One thing I've observed that gives bikes an edge is the ability to sneak up on people via wheelies and slipstream them, as well as the ability to cancel a wheelie instantly by hopping.
I've seen marinaneon2 do the DK Summit shortcut with a kart. I forget which though.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Also, thanks for experimenting on if karts do get singled out or not. I had wondered that if true, people are thinking, "There's no way I'm going to get beaten by a kart user. I'm going to blast this person away," sometimes with cooperation from a nearby guest.
By the way, the Moonview Highway world record is done on Automatic.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I've thought about ways to try and balance karts and bikes further, and that's one of the main ways of balancing I have thought of. that or something similar to Kart Riders method of drifting, where after a few MT's, you get a mushroom (or N2O in Kart Rider). Speaking of KR, I must say that it had some really good item ideas.
I can pull the shortcut off in a Wild Wing, but I land funny and end up getting tossed into the air and losing most of my speed.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
No problem, I do weird experiments all the time just to see how people react. For instance, did you know that if you crash a taunt party in brawl, there is about a 70% chance of the other 3 players ganging up to you? Or if you protect and kill yourself to keep scores even when there is someone AFK in team battles that there is only about a 30% of the favor being repaid when your teamed with said AFKer?
I've seen that Moonview record. MT's on that track burn more time than they save, hence auto.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
It still doesn't prevent behavior from other players, considering you say that choosing a kart essentially puts you in the position of Speed Racer...or turns everybody else into Dick Dastardly.
People who crash taunt parties rarely win anyway. What's pretty amusing is that the crasher, regardless of the outcome, is always the one who emerges out the angriest. Do you know how unpopular these sort of matches are among a lot of people?
Overhazard 3 years ago
Dick Dastardly, hah. I remember the cartoon he was in quite well, pity I can't remember the name of it. The classics of childhood.
I've even tried racing both better and worse with both bikes and karts, and no matter how bad I do in a kart, its still worse than when I'm doing my best in a bike. I still love karts however, giant targets or not.
I always wonder what goes through the head of someone who crashes a taunt party. Most crashes aren't very good anyways, and are usually Ikes.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
I personally love taunt parties. After I find myself in a room of them; I switch to the Captain and dare anyone to show me their moves.
Kirby is also a great one for taunt matches, power stealing and his "HIIII!" taunt.
I also juggle turnips with Peach too, or grab people and let them break out, Peach has a great grab hold animation.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
You mean that thing where she reaches her hand up someone's shirt? (Does she do this with Zelda, Zero Suit Samus, and another Peach too?)
Dick Dastardly was from Wacky Races. I have no doubt Mario Kart was inspired from that, since Wacky Races was very popular in Japan. And in Double Dash, Waluigi's kart resembled the Mean Machine, based off of Waluigi's visual resemblance.
I go to GameFAQs, and I see a lot of topics of people complaining that some people like to mess around. I don't get it.
Overhazard 3 years ago
That just makes her grab hold animation all the better actually XD. I can't believe I missed that. I always thought she just looked almost identical to Daisy in the MKWii selection screen while holding someone.
Synchronicity hits a home run here. Ironic that as we talk about Wacky Races; Deceased Crab has just started to upload a Let's Play of it.
I frequent the GameFAQ forums quite often myself, even tried to get an FAQ or two posted, but I'm not very good at padding my work so
-Continued-
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
they never get accepted upon the basis of them being to short. But I was never very good in English anyways. I'd take a complex equation of a sentence diagram any day.
I don't get the hate for taunt parties myself. Really the only reason I could see for such contempt is that they assume that tourney level players can't stand them, and thus its the cool thing to do to hate on them. Yet check smashboards and they are held in a much higher regard than they are on GameFAQs
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Are you talking about that recently-released Wacky Races for the Xbox 360? Wacky Races has a lot of potential to be a great video game. Many attempts have been made, but I havent heard of a case that stood out so far.
Smashboards likes the taunt parties? That's good. I've figured the hate from GameFAQs comes from people who want to battle and can't stand it when they get something else. They always seem to say that if you participate in a taunt party, you're not good enough to play well.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Talking about a fellow 'tuber, DeceasedCrab. No more than a few hours after Wacky Races was brought up, he began a Let's Play of the old Wacky Races NES game.
Not everyone does, but a fair number of them do. I bet the people who seam to hate taunt parties are people of mediocre skill who think that they are "Pros". That term is thrown around way to loosely for my tastes. Everyone who had a bit of skill and an ego think themselves a "Pro". There is always someone better than you out there
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Yep, that was a phrase I first heard in Batman, and I think it holds true--there's no such thing as an unbeatable person. I see the word "hardcore" thrown around a lot too or the same reasons. It probably comes from narcissism.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Hardcore probably comes from the Hardcore vs Casual gamer debate, which I think is stupid. What does it matter if you play Gears of War or Halo vs something like MKWii or NiGHTS?
They say chivalry is dead, and I guess modesty is too. Everyone wants to be the best, or thinks they are the best. What ever happened to just wanting to be pretty good, or having fun for that matter.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
For that matter, games like Professor Layton blur the distinction between hardcore and casual, as it's so unorthodox that it can be both. Hardcore and casual gaming gets defined within the same game too; in the context of SSBB, a hardcore gamer hangs out in an enclosed group whereas a casual gamer spends much of the time on "With Anyone." I'd rather be a casual gamer than a hardcore one, really, if hardcore gamers have this sort of attitude.
As for the mentality of "playing to win"...
Overhazard 3 years ago
...there's a quote from Calvin and Hobbes that I think sums up the mindset of too many people nowadays, spoken by one of Calvin's angry baseball-mates:
"Games are only fun when you win. And now you're going to make us LOSE."
The internet has somehow caused a lot of people to lose satisfaction over the game and make everyone seem to think the outcome is all that matters. People even apply this sort of competitiveness to things that shouldn't even be competitive, like origami or Rorschach tests.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I don't consider myself Hardcore or Casual, I just consider myself a gamer. There is not a single genre of game out there that I honestly dislike. From Tetris to Final Fantasy, No More Heroes to The Conduit, Viewtiful Joe to Wii Sports.
As long as you enjoy games, I don't see the need for distinction between one type of gamer vs another type.
It plays back into the ego thing I bet. Probably fulfills some smug sense of self satisfaction to call yourself Hardcore and bash the casuals.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Ha, it's nice to see another Calvin and Hobbes fan, I remember that strip panel for panel. Catching the fly for the other team was an awesome touch. Bill Watterson was a genius. I also loved the fact that he used a deep vocabulary in some strips.
I tend to blame FPS games for that more than I do the internet, but it may well be. Competitiveness is fine, but when the results are all that matters, you've lost something along the way.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
I had a friend who wanted to race me in the various labs we had, guy was smart too, but he cared more about winning than absorbing the material.
First few labs he beat me fairly handedly. Next few labs we were neck and neck, but I was working slow enough to absorb the material, he was just plugging away. This continued all the way up through the Final lab (Building a simple computer out of chips and resistors)
We both passed but I got a lot more out of the class than he did. Poor guy.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
I don't like Bill Watterson as a person, but I certainly enjoyed Calvin & Hobbes. The only major book I'm missing is the leather-bound complete series, which is $120 and beyond what I can afford.
By the way, the phrase, "Whinning isn't everything; it's the only thing" began as a joke. So I snicker whenever someone uses that saying.
Do you mean science experiments as in "labs"? I'm not sure where winning is to be had from assignments, but I've known some people who were competitive for grades.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Oh? What about him do you not like? I personally only know him from Calvin and Hobbes and what I have read on Wiki, I thought that's all he was known for. That's the only book I lack as well.
I wasn't aware of the origins of that phrase before. Ha, it just makes the play to win crowd all the more obtuse. That's great, ha.
Indeed, Electrical labs, He prided himself on being the first to finish, but never took the time to really absorb the information. Going through the motions basically
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Well, speed is something that big corporations want to see, though I'm sure understanding what you're doing takes higher priority.
Bill Watterson is a strict anti-commercialist and has a few psychological problems. The former is why you see no merchandise of Calvin and Hobbes; the latter is why he's hermited himself and burns his paintings as soon as he finishes them to make sure no one sees them. I disagree with his thoughts of capitalism as an evil machine and money as the devil incarnate.
Overhazard 3 years ago
He chose to move away to a secret location in New Mexico. He does not use electricity or gas and communicates only with his family.
For a while, he paid tribute to his fans by autographing a few Calvin and Hobbes books at a local Barnes and Nobles, though he immediately quit when he found out they were being sold on eBay at high prices.
He also accepts interviews from people, but only through the eyeholes in the door and he always checks to make sure no writing materials are present.
Overhazard 3 years ago
I would rather be a slow and safe engineer over a fast one any day. I always think of the Tacoma Narrows Disaster when I think of speed engineering. Nasty stuff that is, I don't think I could recover if something I did caused a disaster like that, intentional or no.
Wow, I knew he was reclusive and a bit of a hermit but that's taking it to the extreme, and quite an extreme at that. Genius and Madness are but a heartbeat apart I guess. While that lowers my opinion of him, C&H is still awesome.
FinalDamnation 3 years ago
Yeah, I don't like his philosophy, but I certainly enjoyed Calvin and Hobbes while they lasted.
It all revolves around his philosophy of commercialization dumbing down the original product, which Charles Schulz proved utterly false long before Calvin and Hobbes began and Shigeru Miyamoto is still disproving today.
Of course, in the latter case, the Japanese LOVE commercialization, not to mention "ganbarimasu," a cultural obligation to put your heart into everything you do.
Overhazard 3 years ago
In essence, he tries to distance himself away from any usage of money as possible. Obviously, living in this location, he doesn't have a job; he lives off of his family and of the forest. Something has caused him to go paranoid.
I don't hate Bill Watterson, per se; but I would strongly disagree on his views on commercialism, money, and people as a whole. It's odd he would admire Charles Schulz, who licensed Peanuts products left and right without much care.
Overhazard 3 years ago
nah, i almost always use karts, and bikes, but mostly karts, and i can master all drifts. my only problem is that i suffer from disconnections, so my Vr, has never gone over 6000
lacho40 3 years ago
yeah, that has also happened to me. i have also, used the wiimote and nunchuck and the gamecube schemes, but i stay with the wii wheel
lacho40 3 years ago
Nah. I can't play at all with the auto wii wheel. But I am (currently) used to using Koopa's normal kart (I forget what it's called)automatic, on gamecube controller.
Or maybe I just stink at Wii Wheel :P
Breludicolo 3 years ago
I'm not sure, since Koopa Troopa doesn't really have a kart of his own.
Overhazard 3 years ago
Oh man, that finish was amazing!
Tok169 3 years ago
I meant the first race.
Tok169 3 years ago