@claudelebel55 She speaking from a far greater depth than you could believe, from as great a depth as Mooji if not deeper, something one can only understand by hearing 'her' properly. Because her experience did not arise as someone formally taught or guided into self-realization she may sound naive and may not come across the way a guru would. But that is where her words and power come from, because they are pure and original.
@claudelebel55 If you listen to Mooji you will hear him say that the guru's power works through his presence, not his words. With Ramana Maharshi it was the same. His physical or energetic presence was what brought about changes in consciousness, more so than his words.
She says 'helps me shift my energy to a different way of being'.
You might take some time to consider who she means by 'me'
@sporo2000 And no she is not speaking from the place that mooji speaks. Mooji is saying DIE! DIE to everything. Die to the one that dies. Stop sucking the boob of, "I think I am getting it now". The milk of all we have to do is.. The paps of, "IF we are more in control".... But we will continue being arrogant until absolute death. The death of even trying to die. This is pure arrogance. 'If you live your life more peacefully?' God doesn't have to live in peace, God is peace. You=that.
@beautifulpaintingwi Do you ever listen to Mooji properly, especially when he says people who didn't understand English came to his satsangs and found a sense of peace and calm developing within them? Isn't the PRESENCE or the PROXIMITY of the guru that effects the change, rather than words, as she is saying? Her main thesis is that peacefulness is a trait we can deliberatey cultivate, something we can choose, and being organized or self-controlled is part of it.
@claudelebel55 Who would use a phrase like "helps me my shift my energy to a different way of being". That is probably the most accurate definition of Satsang you could ever hear.
@sporo2000 God doesn't "Need" to shift anything. Shifting happens yes, but as a servant to what is greater than that.. YOU, the all in all. How does space shift to recognize space?
she is so right. we cant change the world in any meaningful way, until we change our own personal worlds in peaceful and meaningful ways. our internal changes are registered on an unconscious level on the people around us. some will respond to the call willingly, others will reject us because our peace causes conflict in them. but it is an ever expanding aura of energy. eventually, no one will be able to run and hide from this change. it is manifesting on a global level. peace NOW
@onlyjoetee The peace in question here is the "peace that passeth all understanding", not in peace as in the absence of conflict between opposing factions. Injustice is a consequence of the absence of this kind of peace. If this kind of peace comes, justice will come. See watch?v=3tTmPkW42QA
@onlyjoetee I'd echo sporo2000 words here. Justice is the response of ego 'Wanting'. Less ego (Less Wanting) equals more peace. This is journey we are all on and the invitation and opportunity we all are offered every second of our lives
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claudelebel55 2 months ago
@claudelebel55 She speaking from a far greater depth than you could believe, from as great a depth as Mooji if not deeper, something one can only understand by hearing 'her' properly. Because her experience did not arise as someone formally taught or guided into self-realization she may sound naive and may not come across the way a guru would. But that is where her words and power come from, because they are pure and original.
sporo2000 2 months ago
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claudelebel55 2 months ago
@claudelebel55 If you listen to Mooji you will hear him say that the guru's power works through his presence, not his words. With Ramana Maharshi it was the same. His physical or energetic presence was what brought about changes in consciousness, more so than his words.
She says 'helps me shift my energy to a different way of being'.
You might take some time to consider who she means by 'me'
sporo2000 2 months ago
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beautifulpaintingwi 2 months ago
@sporo2000 And no she is not speaking from the place that mooji speaks. Mooji is saying DIE! DIE to everything. Die to the one that dies. Stop sucking the boob of, "I think I am getting it now". The milk of all we have to do is.. The paps of, "IF we are more in control".... But we will continue being arrogant until absolute death. The death of even trying to die. This is pure arrogance. 'If you live your life more peacefully?' God doesn't have to live in peace, God is peace. You=that.
beautifulpaintingwi 2 months ago
@beautifulpaintingwi Do you ever listen to Mooji properly, especially when he says people who didn't understand English came to his satsangs and found a sense of peace and calm developing within them? Isn't the PRESENCE or the PROXIMITY of the guru that effects the change, rather than words, as she is saying? Her main thesis is that peacefulness is a trait we can deliberatey cultivate, something we can choose, and being organized or self-controlled is part of it.
sporo2000 2 months ago
@claudelebel55 Who would use a phrase like "helps me my shift my energy to a different way of being". That is probably the most accurate definition of Satsang you could ever hear.
sporo2000 2 months ago
@sporo2000 God doesn't "Need" to shift anything. Shifting happens yes, but as a servant to what is greater than that.. YOU, the all in all. How does space shift to recognize space?
beautifulpaintingwi 2 months ago
she is so right. we cant change the world in any meaningful way, until we change our own personal worlds in peaceful and meaningful ways. our internal changes are registered on an unconscious level on the people around us. some will respond to the call willingly, others will reject us because our peace causes conflict in them. but it is an ever expanding aura of energy. eventually, no one will be able to run and hide from this change. it is manifesting on a global level. peace NOW
susan196three 9 months ago
everybody's always crying out for peace,none is ever crying out for justice.......
onlyjoetee 9 months ago
@onlyjoetee The peace in question here is the "peace that passeth all understanding", not in peace as in the absence of conflict between opposing factions. Injustice is a consequence of the absence of this kind of peace. If this kind of peace comes, justice will come. See watch?v=3tTmPkW42QA
sporo2000 9 months ago
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beautifulpaintingwi 2 months ago
@onlyjoetee I'd echo sporo2000 words here. Justice is the response of ego 'Wanting'. Less ego (Less Wanting) equals more peace. This is journey we are all on and the invitation and opportunity we all are offered every second of our lives
DAH210774 8 months ago