Straight out with 35mm film, you have a full frame...
How much does a full frame digital camera cost?
And people who shoot digital always say "i wouldnt be able to afford to take pictures without digital".
I shoot lots of film, even including slide. And havent come anywhere near the amount of money of my 2 DSLRs (a 550d, and 350d).
Not to mention Adox making THE BEST FILM ABOUT! That is if your allergic to film grain, which i am not, i love all of films imperfections, dust, grain & scratches.
@rorrt -- Hello - I have heard of Adox, what makes it good! I used to shoot with Agfa which I found great (better tnan Ilford) but I have never tried Adox.
Adox are like the go to guys for fine art photography, and fine art film. The lowest speed 35mm film they make is 20iso, which admittedly IS SLOWWWW, and needs a tripod, or to use a flash in the middle of the day.
And if you shoot 4X5", or are just interested in shooting large format, its not worth getting any other type film, its incredible!
SO they say, if you enlarge it to its limitation size, its a mp equivalent of 500mp!
@rorrt Hello & Seasons Greetings - Thats great, thanks for the info. I shoot mainly 6x9cm and 4x5 (dont have 35mm) AND the slowest film I can get away with, which averages at HP125. When my present stock of film is used I will get some ADOX - Thanks again for the info. Have a good festive season.
Why would you use an appliance (digital camera) to try to create art. Would any great concert pianist use a Casio programmable piano to perform a great work. Would any serious artist use any instrument that tried to tell him or her what to do and how to do it? Of course not. I make my livelihood with an 8x10 camera, a wooden box. But when you think about it, a Bosendorfer Piano is a wooden box too, right.
@firefighterps2 - I agree, and very well put. You can sling a digital box of tricks over your shoulder. Manipulate your shots on a computer and with tongue-in-cheek call yourself a photographer! There are *phorographers* today who have never handled a film. Many would not know how to load a 35mm film never mind use a real camera.
noob question: i have some old film camera. its a yashica fx-2 and i was wondering if there's any way to use it as a digital camera? is there any technology that can do that? and if not, does anyone happen to know what kinda of film i should use for it?
FX-2 takes standard 35mm, you can get it anyplace. The battery is only needed for the meter and the rest is all mechanical. That take great pictures as is. It would not be worth trying to convert to digital, too much time, money, and four letter words.
@maxpin63 I agree. I'd much rather spend my time dodging and burning with an enlarger than sitting at a computer an clicking a mouse. Digital just seems, how should say, cold and lifeless. Besides, what's more satisfyling than watching the perfect print appear in the developer?
Digital technology is innovation, as opposed to improvement. A drastic change? Yes, but superior? No. With a regular camera, you can shoot all day and night without a single battery.
@moviesunrated Night photography rarely requires a flash or light meter. For me, anyway. Besides many cameras have a non-electric meter built in. Please research the technology before you attempt to deride it.
@chompychomps Fair enough you can get a light meter without a battery. But you still need one if you want to use a flash.
What's so bad about batteries to make you go off digital photography? At least you can view the image straight after and retake it if it went badly. It's compact cameras that are crap TBH.
@moviesunrated I find it funny how everyone who is an advocate of digital always justifies their preference by saying, "at least you can retake it if it went badly" or "at least you can delete the ones you don't like". I can understand this if you shoot weddings or something important because it's a safety net, what I don't get is that these justifications are based on a negative or possible negative outcome. I think with film you have to be much more aware of the idea of visualization.
I totally love film now and completely agree that with digital, your pictures will degrade after being able to take thousands of versions of one picture.
I think being able to take like 300 pictures is really handy. But the way film works is wonderful.
Great video, funny, but wouldn't it get indigestion?
My DSLR is already "old" tech. Got 8K for the latest? Sensor dirty? New roll of film $6 and it's clean. And how about those tiny little sensors? Detail is in the format size. My little N75 Nikon isn't the fanciest film camera I've owned, but with good glass it's a keeper. Viva La Film!
@oldschool62nation I spent like $1800 on my DSLR and lens. It can't get wet. Its sensor is tiny. It will be outdated by next year (it probably already is, but I don't keep up on that tech) Its batteries die at the worst times etc etc I spent $300 on my Mamiya RB67. Its built like a tank Lenses are dirt cheap Its hella fun to use Scanned negatives @9600 dpi make something like 500 megapixel scans (not that this is really important) Its 40 years old and still works perfectly Need I say more?
@mjfrattaroli I agree & I think that DSLR's are a money pit that are obsolete in a very short time. I just bought a mint shape 35mm Minolta SRT 200 w/lenses & flash still in the box for $150. It's 34 years old, it's built like a tank, light meter works & takes great pics. When I get my film developed, I get prints, negs & disc so I can share pics with friends on the internet. That's the best of both worlds. It can also double as a weapon if I get attacked by a mugger. lol RB67 uses 120 film?
@mjfrattaroli You are right on about the megapixel count on film...it's right up there and most people don't understand that. Also, film offers a variety of film types to choose from for special effects. For example, Fuji Realla film offers vibrant colours for landscape photography but isn't the best for taking pics of people. IMO it's like being able to choose different sensors for your DSLR for different effects by comparison. I like the freedom to choose what I want on film.
Not true, with real film, we used wide or telephoto lens to change how things really looked and brought unnatural light (flashes) were there was none.. No matter what. Most photography is still cheating. Unless you shot everything with a 50mm lens and no flash and at a normal speed where things looked blurry that were moving fast. just like to the naked eye.. but i know what you are saying, i'm just being the devils advocate
I will never stop buying film. My fun camera is a brownie Hawkeye and my main camera is a Pentax LX. I love the suspense of having you film developed and when you get your pictures back you have the for ever.
120 film will fit on suply side, no need to re-spool, You only need 620 spool on take off side and let the lab know you want it back. You can get it on E-bay or you can get it from me for the postage price like 2 dollars.
I agree; that sense of anticipation of getting my processing back is almost, if not better, than knowing I am getting laid that night. (Don't worry, I am happily married :)
I use digital for press/weddings/magazine work and 5x4 film for architecture, landscapes, studio still life shots and portraits of family as its expensive but the quality is far superior, digital photography has taken away my livelyhood as anyone can shoot and photoshop but hey thats progress for you
Hi, are You developing 5x4 or upwards? If so got a very usefull mod for ya. That goes for anyone else having trouble/wishing to cut costs. interested: mail me, I will be doing a vid asap but could take a while. p.s this is not an sales pitch or anything like it
I shoot film 99% of time. 1% is for when i take a pic with my phone. The reason why I prefer film is because i mainly do 35mm chromes (Velvia 50) for projection, and i just cant get the same look with digital. I also own a medium format camera for those times when i need a large print. I am also thinking of buying a large format camera, I saw one of those 4x5 slides on a light-table and that was just wow. It'll be a very long time before i switch to digital, if ever.
35mm cine film =12.5 megs 35mm still filmm=24-26megs full HD=1080 x 1920 Super 16=1400x2324 Med format 6x9 = 80 megapixels (approx) The problem I find with HD cameras is the massive amount of compression resulting in digital artifacting.Film has grain ! If you want to see grain guys hire or test a HD camera like HVX-200 you get grain and noise with every shot. Example HVX200 960x540 CCD @100mb/s Sony PMW-Ex3 has 1080x1920 Chip but only 35mb/s.Panny shit CCD,Sony slow data stream and high comp
you are right. not only that, even for still photos...a large format camera even with the smallest film 4"x5" sheet has more than the equivalent of 400mpix on it...now which expensive dslr can do that? the lazy wana be photographer digital guys are wating money on expensive mediocre toys. dslrs might be like machine pistols that shoot fast with small bullets but with large format film...were talking about single shot Howitzers here.
another confirmed purist photographer here digital is no substitute for the joy and skill of developing and printing your own work and as every felllow photographer I have ever spoken to says digital pics have no depth
Not to mention the incompatibility of NTSC,PAL ,SECAM and the 12+ sub versions.Then there are the different Zones nonsense.Mac and PC, and all programs.Shoot film and you can print it on any enlarger in the world.35mm movie.Shoot on a German Camera,edit on french editor print on Japanese printers.Show it in any cinema in the world.
I keep thinking, you know a 35mm frame is double a 35mm movie frame. so... If you have a half frame camera, say, for example, a canon demi S, you could use ti for stop motion. Now i have some inspiration.
hay dude that was awesome!!!! yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh little piece of SH$%^ camera.ha...ha...ha...View cameras rocks still &will always do.thanks 4d clip.
Straight out with 35mm film, you have a full frame...
How much does a full frame digital camera cost?
And people who shoot digital always say "i wouldnt be able to afford to take pictures without digital".
I shoot lots of film, even including slide. And havent come anywhere near the amount of money of my 2 DSLRs (a 550d, and 350d).
Not to mention Adox making THE BEST FILM ABOUT! That is if your allergic to film grain, which i am not, i love all of films imperfections, dust, grain & scratches.
rorrt 4 months ago
@rorrt -- Hello - I have heard of Adox, what makes it good! I used to shoot with Agfa which I found great (better tnan Ilford) but I have never tried Adox.
goinghomesomeday1 2 months ago
@goinghomesomeday1
Hello!
Adox are like the go to guys for fine art photography, and fine art film. The lowest speed 35mm film they make is 20iso, which admittedly IS SLOWWWW, and needs a tripod, or to use a flash in the middle of the day.
And if you shoot 4X5", or are just interested in shooting large format, its not worth getting any other type film, its incredible!
SO they say, if you enlarge it to its limitation size, its a mp equivalent of 500mp!
rorrt 2 months ago
@rorrt Hello & Seasons Greetings - Thats great, thanks for the info. I shoot mainly 6x9cm and 4x5 (dont have 35mm) AND the slowest film I can get away with, which averages at HP125. When my present stock of film is used I will get some ADOX - Thanks again for the info. Have a good festive season.
goinghomesomeday1 2 months ago
@goinghomesomeday1
You too Happy Christmas!
i would use Ag photographic is the online store is the best ive found purely for film and paper.
PS and ive used Foma-pan, which you can also buy from that same store, its a dirt cheap, old school emulsion film.
rorrt 2 months ago
Take e look to this online FILM PHOTOGRAPHY MAGAZINE: lenegatif(dot) com
They feature film photography maybe you are interested.
colourArt 7 months ago
I want an 8x10 to come devour that 4x5. Always a bigger fish...
mjfrattaroli 9 months ago
@mjfrattaroli - 8X10 Small fry!! What about a 20X16 LoL.
goinghomesomeday1 8 months ago
Why would you use an appliance (digital camera) to try to create art. Would any great concert pianist use a Casio programmable piano to perform a great work. Would any serious artist use any instrument that tried to tell him or her what to do and how to do it? Of course not. I make my livelihood with an 8x10 camera, a wooden box. But when you think about it, a Bosendorfer Piano is a wooden box too, right.
firefighterps2 1 year ago
@firefighterps2 - I agree, and very well put. You can sling a digital box of tricks over your shoulder. Manipulate your shots on a computer and with tongue-in-cheek call yourself a photographer! There are *phorographers* today who have never handled a film. Many would not know how to load a 35mm film never mind use a real camera.
Viva Le Film
goinghomesomeday1 1 year ago
DIE
Hazzegan 1 year ago
Just brilliant - :) LOL
goinghomesomeday1 1 year ago
Hahaha nice one!
320k 1 year ago
LOL :))
djbones666 1 year ago
Go Film Go! Devour digital!
ghostoferkrussell 1 year ago
This is so cute!
facelessproductionz 1 year ago
noob question: i have some old film camera. its a yashica fx-2 and i was wondering if there's any way to use it as a digital camera? is there any technology that can do that? and if not, does anyone happen to know what kinda of film i should use for it?
riseagainsttheunion 2 years ago
FX-2 takes standard 35mm, you can get it anyplace. The battery is only needed for the meter and the rest is all mechanical. That take great pictures as is. It would not be worth trying to convert to digital, too much time, money, and four letter words.
carsmasher 1 year ago
So great to see an interest and understanding of film. So nice to see.
Malibucompany 2 years ago 2
Digital is a dead medium.
To make a living picture made by light and a darkroom,that makes it special.
Digital is a waste of time and money.
maxpin63 2 years ago
@maxpin63 I agree. I'd much rather spend my time dodging and burning with an enlarger than sitting at a computer an clicking a mouse. Digital just seems, how should say, cold and lifeless. Besides, what's more satisfyling than watching the perfect print appear in the developer?
jazzclarinet2006 1 year ago
Digital technology is innovation, as opposed to improvement. A drastic change? Yes, but superior? No. With a regular camera, you can shoot all day and night without a single battery.
chompychomps 2 years ago 12
@chompychomps Actually you will need a battery if using a flash or light meter.
moviesunrated 1 year ago
@moviesunrated Night photography rarely requires a flash or light meter. For me, anyway. Besides many cameras have a non-electric meter built in. Please research the technology before you attempt to deride it.
chompychomps 1 year ago
@chompychomps Fair enough you can get a light meter without a battery. But you still need one if you want to use a flash.
What's so bad about batteries to make you go off digital photography? At least you can view the image straight after and retake it if it went badly. It's compact cameras that are crap TBH.
moviesunrated 1 year ago
@moviesunrated I find it funny how everyone who is an advocate of digital always justifies their preference by saying, "at least you can retake it if it went badly" or "at least you can delete the ones you don't like". I can understand this if you shoot weddings or something important because it's a safety net, what I don't get is that these justifications are based on a negative or possible negative outcome. I think with film you have to be much more aware of the idea of visualization.
KARBONIZM 7 months ago
@KARBONIZM That was 5 months ago.
I totally love film now and completely agree that with digital, your pictures will degrade after being able to take thousands of versions of one picture.
I think being able to take like 300 pictures is really handy. But the way film works is wonderful.
moviesunrated 7 months ago
Great video, funny, but wouldn't it get indigestion?
My DSLR is already "old" tech. Got 8K for the latest? Sensor dirty? New roll of film $6 and it's clean. And how about those tiny little sensors? Detail is in the format size. My little N75 Nikon isn't the fanciest film camera I've owned, but with good glass it's a keeper. Viva La Film!
oldschool62nation 2 years ago 16
mjfrattaroli 8 months ago
@mjfrattaroli - LoL ¦:-) None of my cameras have batteries fitted, all mechanical.
goinghomesomeday1 8 months ago
@mjfrattaroli I agree & I think that DSLR's are a money pit that are obsolete in a very short time. I just bought a mint shape 35mm Minolta SRT 200 w/lenses & flash still in the box for $150. It's 34 years old, it's built like a tank, light meter works & takes great pics. When I get my film developed, I get prints, negs & disc so I can share pics with friends on the internet. That's the best of both worlds. It can also double as a weapon if I get attacked by a mugger. lol RB67 uses 120 film?
MegaTmarshall 7 months ago
@mjfrattaroli You are right on about the megapixel count on film...it's right up there and most people don't understand that. Also, film offers a variety of film types to choose from for special effects. For example, Fuji Realla film offers vibrant colours for landscape photography but isn't the best for taking pics of people. IMO it's like being able to choose different sensors for your DSLR for different effects by comparison. I like the freedom to choose what I want on film.
MegaTmarshall 7 months ago
Right on!
abcdestinylynns 2 years ago
the prob with digital is anyone can make a fictional photo with the help of photoshop. all of my film photos are non fiction
KC0TCH 2 years ago 4
Not true, with real film, we used wide or telephoto lens to change how things really looked and brought unnatural light (flashes) were there was none.. No matter what. Most photography is still cheating. Unless you shot everything with a 50mm lens and no flash and at a normal speed where things looked blurry that were moving fast. just like to the naked eye.. but i know what you are saying, i'm just being the devils advocate
SURFSTYLEY3 2 years ago
Is pretty much true! Thumbs up. Film Photography will never fade away.
jin1103 2 years ago
I will never stop buying film. My fun camera is a brownie Hawkeye and my main camera is a Pentax LX. I love the suspense of having you film developed and when you get your pictures back you have the for ever.
volvoturbo1 2 years ago
I also have a Brownie Hawkeye. Where can you get the spools for re-spooling on to 620?
collectablecamera 2 years ago
120 film will fit on suply side, no need to re-spool, You only need 620 spool on take off side and let the lab know you want it back. You can get it on E-bay or you can get it from me for the postage price like 2 dollars.
volvoturbo1 2 years ago
I agree; that sense of anticipation of getting my processing back is almost, if not better, than knowing I am getting laid that night. (Don't worry, I am happily married :)
chompychomps 2 years ago
Film FTW. Film 4 life.
Easmithv 3 years ago
Well that's what happens when a large format camera is hungry and there's no sheet film around. Another unsuspecting victim.
anzaeria 3 years ago 2
I use digital for press/weddings/magazine work and 5x4 film for architecture, landscapes, studio still life shots and portraits of family as its expensive but the quality is far superior, digital photography has taken away my livelyhood as anyone can shoot and photoshop but hey thats progress for you
stevevox1 3 years ago
Hi here very funny video.
I'm also shooting with film ( b&w mostly ) and as long as there will be some available, count me in :) I plan to develop as well soon.
kicix 3 years ago 2
Hi, are You developing 5x4 or upwards? If so got a very usefull mod for ya. That goes for anyone else having trouble/wishing to cut costs. interested: mail me, I will be doing a vid asap but could take a while. p.s this is not an sales pitch or anything like it
cherrytreeandon 2 years ago
Yes, I shoot 5x4 black and white when I have time! Look forward to the video.
mattbigwood 2 years ago
I shoot film 99% of time. 1% is for when i take a pic with my phone. The reason why I prefer film is because i mainly do 35mm chromes (Velvia 50) for projection, and i just cant get the same look with digital. I also own a medium format camera for those times when i need a large print. I am also thinking of buying a large format camera, I saw one of those 4x5 slides on a light-table and that was just wow. It'll be a very long time before i switch to digital, if ever.
steveseason 3 years ago
reticulan5 3 years ago
FILM RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
adrianrubi 3 years ago
It certainly does Oly it certainly does.Just check out any issue of American Cinematographer and you will see that most TV shows,eg Desperate
House Wifes,House etc.Are still being shot on
35mm.Whats being shot on HD Oprah,Days of our lives,Jerry Springer.I rest my case.
Thats for the small screen,for cinema it's nearly all film as most cinemas in the world have only 35mm projectors.
28 days was shot on Digital then they spent 100,000s on treatment and then a 35mm copy
and it still looked shit.
reticulan5 3 years ago
you are right. not only that, even for still photos...a large format camera even with the smallest film 4"x5" sheet has more than the equivalent of 400mpix on it...now which expensive dslr can do that? the lazy wana be photographer digital guys are wating money on expensive mediocre toys. dslrs might be like machine pistols that shoot fast with small bullets but with large format film...were talking about single shot Howitzers here.
adrianrubi 3 years ago 2
another confirmed purist photographer here digital is no substitute for the joy and skill of developing and printing your own work and as every felllow photographer I have ever spoken to says digital pics have no depth
gezz58 3 years ago
FILM RULES!!!! No matter how advanced digital photography gets, film will still be very much alive.
Sinatra192 3 years ago
Large Format Rules
moonofsaudi 3 years ago
I wouldn't trade mine for any D/SLR.
First there was analog with over a 100 formats.
then came standard digital,then 720p and 1080i.
Then 1080p. Now its 2k and 4k.
Not to mention the incompatibility of NTSC,PAL ,SECAM and the 12+ sub versions.Then there are the different Zones nonsense.Mac and PC, and all programs.Shoot film and you can print it on any enlarger in the world.35mm movie.Shoot on a German Camera,edit on french editor print on Japanese printers.Show it in any cinema in the world.
reticulan5 3 years ago 2
and no one can Blame you for that
moonofsaudi 3 years ago
I love that, Lumix for the bin... funnily enough my hands wreak for film processing earlier, I love my medium format camera.. .)
thx1138X 3 years ago
Cool video.
35mm film days are never over ;)
ronsonbrown 3 years ago
haha looooool...
DRGBTL23 3 years ago
Perfect. Keep going on like that
TOUSNESP 3 years ago
lol
I keep thinking, you know a 35mm frame is double a 35mm movie frame. so... If you have a half frame camera, say, for example, a canon demi S, you could use ti for stop motion. Now i have some inspiration.
Polybun 3 years ago
hay dude that was awesome!!!! yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh little piece of SH$%^ camera.ha...ha...ha...View cameras rocks still &will always do.thanks 4d clip.
johnhasaname 3 years ago
Hilarious! When I am writing this I am holding a medium format camera on my lap and easily see how it could eat that Lumix too :)
amariegold 3 years ago
coooooool!
mighe79 3 years ago
lol cool
SuperMatizek 3 years ago
lol
ully007 3 years ago
excellent!
galileo021728 3 years ago
Excellent! My sentiments exactly. Hopefully, film and papers will be available for us large format photographers for many years to come.
ZoneIII 4 years ago 4
Beautiful.
alternativecamera 4 years ago
Hehe it's great. I like the actual meaning of the video...:D
chpapaioannou 4 years ago
awesome!
MrsSarahReed 4 years ago
haha cool
LOUISMOREAU 4 years ago
ahh man thats great!
asimplefarmer 4 years ago
Thank you!
ChristopherPlatt 4 years ago
lol. Done ate it for lunch.
MadCurtis 4 years ago
lol
mwibob 4 years ago
Lol Excellent!
alman53 4 years ago