Election Intermission: Pat Condell & UKIP (1 of 3)

[SSTTEEAALLTTHH]

UKIP calling itself libertarian was the funniest shit I ever heard. That's like Stalin calling himself a humanist.

[Basterfields]

What a load of middle-class left-wing drivel this man spouts!

Many countries survive outside of the EUSSR's stranglehold!

[Basterfields]

PS. Why would all the Brits in the EU have to come home?

If the EU are that petty and vindictive that they would deport Britons because they were no longer EU citizens from their member states then why dont they start kicking out non-EU citizens now instead of rolling the red carpet out for them?

[kramnodd12]

This guy masturbates to 15 year old girls. I can see it in his eyes.

[DLandonCole]

@PoetryoftheInjustice On the second point, there's a difference between agricultural subsidies in the CAP and fishing quotas. Without management of fish stocks, we will completely deplete them. I don't want to get into psychology, but it is easier to self-actualise when one's physical needs are covered.

[nealasher]

But what attracts people to UKIP? It's not 'populist nationalism' it's precisely why people vote: they vote against something. And they are voting against the EU. They are voting against dictatorial unelected control from abroad. Good business in Britain? Not with all the EU red tape. Wake up.

[procritic09]

In america when people defend immigration they say "we all came here as immigrants". Well, this is actually true for britain as well. All of the white britons came here from mainland europe, and before that from Africa.

[wordforge]

UKIP are this country's last hope.

[bnbalenda]

UKIP is not bad. BNP is worse.

[DLandonCole]

@bnbalenda I would not say that UKIP are on the same level as the BNP, but it will come as no surprise that they are not my favourite party.

[HugNow]

"of course it is the party for Pat"

What? homeopathy? skepticism? pat is not a homeopath supporter

[DLandonCole]

@HugNow No, he isn't a supporter of homeopathy. What I was saying in his video is that he obsesses about a small number of issues to the point that he ignores his principles elsewhere.

[greenelf12]

@DLandonCole which is exactly what he said in his "hello angry Atheists" video.

[DLandonCole]

@greenelf12 The point I was making is that he is so obsessed about one issue that he will sacrifice his point of view on every other issue in service of the former. This does not lead to good public policy.

[greenelf12]

@DLandonCole and I was agreeing ;)

[stucool17]

@DLandonCole Is that really such a problem though? What alternatives are there? Career politicians and crowd pleasers like labour/tories/lib dems? Super eco-friendly parties like the green party? I honestly don't see an alternative.

[DLandonCole]

@stucool17 Yes, it's a problem. If you're obsessive about one issue, you're hardly going to get good policy-making.

[bryantulsa]

At last I can watch these videos!! Moving on to part 2

[Hellothasauras]

UKIP are a good party, but to fight against the EU, it will take others in the EU. The support would need to be huge. There are at the moment a number of other parties, however the MEPs have little power. Only if the UK leaves the EU will Greece, Spain and Italy follow, it takes one to make the rest leave. A strong country like the UK should lead this movement out of the EU

[DLandonCole]

@Hellothasauras Unsurprisingly, I disagree with you on all of that.

[HugNow]

@Hellothasauras UKIP is not a good party. There is no such "good" who supports homeopathy and bull shit like that. They may be just another party that people can vote for to protest against the other parties, but to call them GOOD is a fricking mistake.

[DLandonCole]

@HugNow Well said.

[johncrwarner]

Is this part 1 - as the "Scrap the Human Rights Act", "Triple the number of UK Borders Agency staff" and "Boost the military budget by 40%" are interesting points - the first was merely a repatriation of the European Convention on Human Rights (of which Britain was a leading advocate) and has nothing to do with the EU. The later two are massive economic expenditures which go against the cutting of expenditure everywhere else.

I would say Monday Club members of the late 1980s from this.

[DLandonCole]

@johncrwarner With a healthy dose of the Bruges Group.

[johncrwarner]

@DLandonCole Indeed it is the unelectable part of the Conservative Party that David Cameron would prefer did not exist in his party - well in public he says that.