you really need to get better educated. you obviously don't know what you're talking about so why post this silly crap? nothing bothers me more than when I hear black people trying to deny the rights of gay people. don't you even know your own history?
@ThomasJKH i can't even begin to discuss your lack of rights, and how things prob will not change for your group until the violence, and disease stops. It's spreadig to more ttens than ever in history, cause their parents are embracing their "sexuality". They aren't even old enough to make an informed decision. Human brain doesn't fully develop until 25. And you to use race as a promotion for gay rights- seems retarded. It's REAL change that lawmakers want to see. Stop abusing eachother
the thing is honey if we were in "ancient days" as you say.... black people were not allowed to get married either so are you saying that this is right? think of yourself in the position of a homosexual not having marriage rights as you (as a black woman) would not have many rights not too many years ago. x
@twatface14 Im literary scared of gay men, i know they have super human strength, and they don't care about abusing women. They blame it on being gay. And you want the right to humanity- first act like one.
@ruauch800: Gay men love and worship women due to the facts that most notable gay icons are female. They always consider heterosexual women as their best friends, so you will be protected by homosexual men.
99% of criminals who abuse children and women are heterosexuals. So stop consider gay men as sex offenders. They are not sexually interested in women.
Civil union is not the same because it limits many pricipal rights such as inheritance, etc.
Just because I am a Firefighter, and served in the AF,,and my Partner also served and is a Pilot for Delta,,means we are not gay,,? Do we need to be hair dresser's?
So now gay marriage is Immoral???,,,Well back in 1967 the courts of Loving vs Virgina,,, when a black and a white wanted to marry was considerd immoral by the bible,,and womens right to vote was considerd immoral by hte bible...Did you know that???
@ruauch800 In all actuality I am victamized by the goverment Fighting for your rights but not receiving my own. Neutral,,, I understand that I am neutral on blacks marrying white or allowed to marry period ,,so I understand
@Clemburke1111 sounds like you strong arming a straight person who doesn't agree with immorality or intolreance. That's why the rights i have are not to be intimidated or coerced bu people like you.
@ruauch800 I sound un American When I served in the AF ? I am unAmerican when I was there at 911 as a Firefighter? I am UnAmerican when I adopted two little babies that some straight women did not want? Wow,,,your just looking for any thing now.
You brought it up,,,,,",,gay marriage" You are obviously are against gay marriage but you feel as though you should have more rights and gays should have less,,hmmmm ok gotcha..thanks.
@ruauch800 No, Its you that are being the bully, if had the chance you would vote against my rights to marry,,or to serve openly in the military. What legal rights do you not have?????
You obviously understand nothing about marriage and why gays want it,,we want it for EQUAL rights,,,, and Civil unions do not work at all. Marriage come with 100's of rights to protect one another, with out them I could not go to my partners military funeral and receive the flag ,,,etc etc etc.
@Clemburke1111 what does that have to do with me? Equality entails treating ALL equally, as far as jobs and resources and priveledges. You don't understand black issues.
If you want the same finacial , social status ,,your going to have to work for it. There are black me that are fellow firefighters here at my station ,,and Pilots that are black and ,,,,and all make the same,,If you want it your going to have to work really hard for it.
Civil unions do not work I have been in one & now I am married in Boston MA. Civil unions do NOT work. It is not illegal to be gay at the work place as gay in NY.Blacks have all equal rights, you have nothing to complain about, and Atheist are the only people lacking full rights in America.WHAT legal rights are you lacking????
@Clemburke1111 Human rights- I want the right to be treated with dignity and respect by all. Without being spiritually molested and intruded upon by those who are spiritually advanced. I wanted the power to make a living for myself that will sustain me, even during these times. I want to be taken seriously when i apply for a job, or am competing for a job against a gay or a male, or a white person. Or someone whose perceived to be better fitted.
@ruauch800 Look in all reality life is horribly unfair and Short people have more difficulty , red heads , people with retardation etc etc etc. If I have the same rights you have in all 50 states I would never complain ever again about rights. I am a firefighter married in Boston to a Pilot for delta, both served in the AF have two children and are both gay,,and all we want is the repeal of DADT & Full gay marriage , the rest is all up to us. So let me ask are you,, against gay marriage?
@Clemburke1111 It's wrong to subscribe to ANY type of discrimination against any protected class/group. When you do you come up short. Get it? That's why i keep an open mind with all groups.
@Clemburke1111 Im not against ANY group discriminating against another due to their status-And you shouldn't be either. What don't you get about that? Karma is at play when you do.
@ruauch800 I do not discriminate and you did not answer the question gay marriage yes or no??? BTW,,, Karma is just a belief and it is not mine, your going to need proof of Karma. I deal with facts and facts only. Now Gay marriage YES or NO?
@ruauch800 You have not answerd the question, are you for or against gay marriage, I am alos against any group that exscludes, but your dancing around the question ,,yes or no???
You're right about one thing: You don't understand. You've obviously never experienced legal inequality: Legal inequality for blacks ended almost 50 years ago. Instead of just talking about how you don't understand, maybe you should ASK a gay couple why marriage is so important to them? Do a search for a series of YouTube videos called "Why Marriage Matters" instead of just running your mouth about something you yourself say you "don't understand."
@ruauch800 Legal inequality against blacks ended almost 50 years ago. All race-based discrimination in public institutions is now illegal in the US. There is not a single legal right that you do not have.
You can decry the social ill of racism, but you CANNOT say you do not have your rights. You have them. If you think you do not have your rights, then you don't understand the definition of the word.... And this may come as a shock to you. But there are people who are black AND gay!! (gasp!)
you really need to get better educated. you obviously don't know what you're talking about so why post this silly crap? nothing bothers me more than when I hear black people trying to deny the rights of gay people. don't you even know your own history?
ThomasJKH 1 year ago
@ThomasJKH i can't even begin to discuss your lack of rights, and how things prob will not change for your group until the violence, and disease stops. It's spreadig to more ttens than ever in history, cause their parents are embracing their "sexuality". They aren't even old enough to make an informed decision. Human brain doesn't fully develop until 25. And you to use race as a promotion for gay rights- seems retarded. It's REAL change that lawmakers want to see. Stop abusing eachother
ruauch800 1 year ago
the thing is honey if we were in "ancient days" as you say.... black people were not allowed to get married either so are you saying that this is right? think of yourself in the position of a homosexual not having marriage rights as you (as a black woman) would not have many rights not too many years ago. x
twatface14 1 year ago 2
@twatface14 Im literary scared of gay men, i know they have super human strength, and they don't care about abusing women. They blame it on being gay. And you want the right to humanity- first act like one.
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800: Gay men love and worship women due to the facts that most notable gay icons are female. They always consider heterosexual women as their best friends, so you will be protected by homosexual men.
99% of criminals who abuse children and women are heterosexuals. So stop consider gay men as sex offenders. They are not sexually interested in women.
Civil union is not the same because it limits many pricipal rights such as inheritance, etc.
Theclowcard 11 months ago
Just because I am a Firefighter, and served in the AF,,and my Partner also served and is a Pilot for Delta,,means we are not gay,,? Do we need to be hair dresser's?
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
What hate speech? I am a gay man,, , so why would I try to pick up a woman on YT? Are you Delussional? I said nothing hateful and if Idid,,,tell me.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
Also I am neutral on blacks being allowed to marry whites so in a way I understand you. In a way its immoral
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 Not interested in your hate speech either. NO! Stop trying to pick up women on youtube.
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 Just because I am neutral about interacial marriage means I am hateful?
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
My morals are very simple,,,"As long as it hurts no one" thats all you have to remember,,the 10 comandments are for fools.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 im not interested.
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 not interested in what?
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 whatever your selling. im neutral. I personally wouldn't marry a practicing gay male or a bisexual male.
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 That is ok I personally would not marry a black person male of female so I guess we agree
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
I played this again for a few more fellow firefighters,,and they laughed,,,,because nothing you said made sense. Your not completing your thoughts.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 what was it you asked again? I thought i asked what your values are? I don't agree with immorality.
ruauch800 1 year ago
Are you against gay marriage or for it and why???
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 i thought i did.
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 im neutral.
ruauch800 1 year ago
So now gay marriage is Immoral???,,,Well back in 1967 the courts of Loving vs Virgina,,, when a black and a white wanted to marry was considerd immoral by the bible,,and womens right to vote was considerd immoral by hte bible...Did you know that???
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 what was it that you were asking for again?
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 you act like a victim
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 In all actuality I am victamized by the goverment Fighting for your rights but not receiving my own. Neutral,,, I understand that I am neutral on blacks marrying white or allowed to marry period ,,so I understand
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
I shoewd you video to the guys here at hte station and all agree black and white,,your not making any sense, and sound bigoted.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 sounds like you strong arming a straight person who doesn't agree with immorality or intolreance. That's why the rights i have are not to be intimidated or coerced bu people like you.
ruauch800 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 you can't even articulate what it is you being slighted with here. America is capitlaist-And i agree. Survival of the fittest.
ruauch800 1 year ago
My Values? Liberty and justice for all, every one with the same legal rights,as every one else. Nothing more nothing less!
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 you sound unamerican? the us military is.......
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 I sound un American When I served in the AF ? I am unAmerican when I was there at 911 as a Firefighter? I am UnAmerican when I adopted two little babies that some straight women did not want? Wow,,,your just looking for any thing now.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
You brought it up,,,,,",,gay marriage" You are obviously are against gay marriage but you feel as though you should have more rights and gays should have less,,hmmmm ok gotcha..thanks.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 what you get is lawmakers who are against 'ur values and beliefs. stop being a bully
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 No, Its you that are being the bully, if had the chance you would vote against my rights to marry,,or to serve openly in the military. What legal rights do you not have?????
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 what are your values?
ruauch800 1 year ago
You obviously understand nothing about marriage and why gays want it,,we want it for EQUAL rights,,,, and Civil unions do not work at all. Marriage come with 100's of rights to protect one another, with out them I could not go to my partners military funeral and receive the flag ,,,etc etc etc.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 what does that have to do with me? Equality entails treating ALL equally, as far as jobs and resources and priveledges. You don't understand black issues.
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 Yes I understand blac issues,,my Father fought for your rights in the 1960 as a Lawyer in 1967, so yyes or no? Its really simple
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
THe begining of marriage was simple it was Ownership it was not social or political Marriage was a form of slavery.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
If you want the same finacial , social status ,,your going to have to work for it. There are black me that are fellow firefighters here at my station ,,and Pilots that are black and ,,,,and all make the same,,If you want it your going to have to work really hard for it.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
THe reason we want to marry, is for legal rights to protect our family,,,why can you not understand this?
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
Civil unions do not work I have been in one & now I am married in Boston MA. Civil unions do NOT work. It is not illegal to be gay at the work place as gay in NY.Blacks have all equal rights, you have nothing to complain about, and Atheist are the only people lacking full rights in America.WHAT legal rights are you lacking????
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 Human rights- I want the right to be treated with dignity and respect by all. Without being spiritually molested and intruded upon by those who are spiritually advanced. I wanted the power to make a living for myself that will sustain me, even during these times. I want to be taken seriously when i apply for a job, or am competing for a job against a gay or a male, or a white person. Or someone whose perceived to be better fitted.
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 Sorry but you have every legal right as any other American Can you tell me a LEGAL right that you do not have ?
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 so is white privilege a right to whites? Or a human right?
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 Look in all reality life is horribly unfair and Short people have more difficulty , red heads , people with retardation etc etc etc. If I have the same rights you have in all 50 states I would never complain ever again about rights. I am a firefighter married in Boston to a Pilot for delta, both served in the AF have two children and are both gay,,and all we want is the repeal of DADT & Full gay marriage , the rest is all up to us. So let me ask are you,, against gay marriage?
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 It's wrong to subscribe to ANY type of discrimination against any protected class/group. When you do you come up short. Get it? That's why i keep an open mind with all groups.
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 Well are you against gay marriage or not? Your not clear.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 Im not against ANY group discriminating against another due to their status-And you shouldn't be either. What don't you get about that? Karma is at play when you do.
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 I do not discriminate and you did not answer the question gay marriage yes or no??? BTW,,, Karma is just a belief and it is not mine, your going to need proof of Karma. I deal with facts and facts only. Now Gay marriage YES or NO?
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@Clemburke1111 i'm not for any group who excludes individuals
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 You have not answerd the question, are you for or against gay marriage, I am alos against any group that exscludes, but your dancing around the question ,,yes or no???
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
You're right about one thing: You don't understand. You've obviously never experienced legal inequality: Legal inequality for blacks ended almost 50 years ago. Instead of just talking about how you don't understand, maybe you should ASK a gay couple why marriage is so important to them? Do a search for a series of YouTube videos called "Why Marriage Matters" instead of just running your mouth about something you yourself say you "don't understand."
TheLightAndTheWay 1 year ago
@TheLightAndTheWay your not the only disadvantaged group out there. I understand that.
ruauch800 1 year ago
@ruauch800 Legal inequality against blacks ended almost 50 years ago. All race-based discrimination in public institutions is now illegal in the US. There is not a single legal right that you do not have.
You can decry the social ill of racism, but you CANNOT say you do not have your rights. You have them. If you think you do not have your rights, then you don't understand the definition of the word.... And this may come as a shock to you. But there are people who are black AND gay!! (gasp!)
TheLightAndTheWay 1 year ago