ZR1 vs GT-R at the Nurburgring (Long Straight)

[ellisfreedman]

The GTR is for pussies. Anyone on here could run a decent lap time in it if given practice because of all the driver assists and flappy paddles, but that Vette.... is a fucking demon. Not many can handle it and that's why its so badass.

[aieljose]

@ellisfreedman So having a car that's tough to handle is a good thing in you're mind? LOL That's the very definition af a bad handling car.

[cruzer93718]

@ellisfreedman Yeah, speaking about pussies. You're one of them. You can talk shit about GTR, and look at your motherfucking car. PIECE OF SHIT. Stop being fucking jelous motherfucker.

[ellisfreedman]

@cruzer93718 Thanks for gracing us all with your opinion bro

[nissanis1]

im seriously doubting that the zr1 is a wonderful car to drive, looks uncomfortable as shit and for that reason haha i would have to go with the gtr. now lets see all of these zr1 lovers write hateful comments cause now there is atleast one gtr lover here

[dart68gts]

zr1 smoookes GT-R ....

[Northax]

Make the ZR1 ALL WHEEL DRIVE like the GTR and it'll be hitting under 7:15 on the N-ring, I'd bet.

I don't trust Nissan with this. That time and such little power, even with the help of all wheel drive is just too questionable. They are not geniuses compared to Porsch 911 engineers, sorry. Or else Nissan would be dominating racing EVERYWHERE if this was true.

Let someone buy a GTR from the showroom floor and give it to Nissan to take on the N-Ring, then let's see the time. lol!

[sw1000xg]

@Northax They did SportAuto took a European spec GTR to the ring and got a 7:38 and a 7:38 when they tested a Corvette ZR1... Just goes to show you that the car is more than able to beat anything Porsche make apart from the GT2 RS!!!

[Northax]

Notice how the guy in the ZR1 doesn't even hit 180 mph on the long straight? This ZR1 can easily hit over 200 mph, yet he chose to hover at 175 on the straight, and only went to 179 when he hit the downhill part! He held back some and still got a 7:26! If he pushed it harder, he could have got a 7:25 or even 7:24.

[sw1000xg]

@Northax And all cars are limited to 175 on the ring I don't know why they just are!!!

[GTRMeister]

@Northax Serioucly go fuck your self you fat kid. How the fuck do you know that? Have you ever driven a car at all? ZR1 and the GT-R are both fantastic cars just like the GT2 and the other cars under 8 min barrier. And if they made the ZR1 AWD with a system that can handle that power and NM it would be at least 150kgs extra weight, that they later had to balance perfect for the handling. Stop being a dick head and grow up. Forza Motorsport is not like in the reality .

[GTRMeister]

@GTRMeister No I am not just a GT-R fan or driver, I have the C6 Z06 as well and I love them both.

[Northax]

Personally, I'm seriously doubting the GTR is totally stock here. But how can one tell? They say each car is unique, so of course Nissan could have tuned this specific GTR to 600+ horsepower for all we know and still say it was "uniquely made, just like all other GTR's!". They did something to it that other GTR's that all others do not have, imo. Sorry, but that's just what I think. So 600+ hp, on FOUR WHEEL DRIVE, PLUS flappy paddles for quick shifts? Yeah, of course 6:29 on N-ring.

[PoLaRIV]

Mmm... both good cars. But for everyone arguing... just because the Vette won this race doesn't make It a better car then the Skyline. There are many things to take into account. Like who's driving Is a big one.

[sirlonghair]

if you also look the trees have no leavs in the GT-r vid but thear is bright sun and leaves in the tree for the ZR1 possably heaver cooler air for the GT-r wear as the vet was in a dry summer heat in the afternoon the GTr was in the cool morning allong with reported head winds for the ZR1 it's not amazind the the GT-r could almost Keep up it's amazing that the ZR1 could battel mother nature and stomp the GT-r at the same time

[Gream1973]

When these 2 videos are synched, there is a 3 to 3 ½ second gap between the cars at that banner. The timers started and stopped at different areas in the start leading to the difference you see in this comparison.

[DeScRuN]

I just would take any of them but the ZR1 has about 530 rwph while the GT-R has 400 awhp. Its a more advanced drivetrain and it has a great drag coeficient but the ZR1 is the power of the sound and pure lightweight-power muscle which you can drift.

[TheNewNine]

NEXT!..

[naracermcb1]

well i dont know what to think. corvette couldnt have been pushin it hard because in the half second that it is faster than a gtr in the 1/4 its going 10mph faster already and it does 1.06 gs and a gtr only does .93 or .96. plus i belive that the vette raced after a week of rain and the gtr didnt. just saying what i heard. both amazing cars but i think both in the same good weather track days the gtr wouldnt handle the Z-R1. but a zo6 would be a good match i think

[MaxwellReviresco]

Keeping up with a ZR1 on a X amount mile long straightaway..come on. Go type in: Porsche tries to match GTR time at nurburgring: 2nd link down. Porsche's 'Ring expert were only able to perform a best lap of just 7:54 vs Nissan "claimed" 7:29. Also the ZR1 is 3 seconds+faster than the GTR on tracks that r only a few miles long. This track is 14 miles long & the ZR1 still only manages to be 3sec...hmmm..lol. riight..what a joke. Honestly I don't believe any posted times anymore from anyone.

[gwood5]

The ring is such a popular place for proving cars because its just like a fast road. And being there road cars its good to know what car is fast on similar conditions. I couldn't give one if X car is so much quicker on a 50meter wide racing track. Means nothing in a road car! I've been to the n'ring countless times in my own car and until you have been you can never truely appreciate the diversity of the place.The times are all legit Max! Its just others who know crap fill the net up with shit (

[MaxwellReviresco]

Yeah well I don't believe the times are. It just doesn't add up. If a handful of Porsche test drivers can't get within 20seconds of Nissan's claims, something is wrong; that or Nissan has driver's that will make Michael Schumacher look like a rookie. I just won't believe that. This vid also makes my point even more so. A ZR1 can toy with a GTR on the freeway..probably even skip shift & walk on a GTR..yet here they are even the whole long straight. yeeah.

[gwood5]

You're believing the Porsche nonsense though.Like i said they've given up on that crap ages ago! A driver from autocar(mag) took the GTR around quicker than these 'professional' Porker drivers did. And he was just having a medium to fast test in the car. Not driving anywhere near 100% Every track test between a Turbo and GTR has seen the GTR win quite easily. The ZR1 is quicker on the straight but it loses so much ground under braking where the GTR is so much more stable. Big open track ZR1>GTR

[MaxwellReviresco]

ok..well what did the driver from auto car mag run? b/c if u google "Nurburgring lap times" u'll see.. Nissan's claim of 7:29.03 (don't believe it) sport auto's time of 7:39 (possibly believeable) & Porsches time of 7:54 so much of such a huge rang in times in a car with so many computer assistances, variable times in a Z06, ZR1,Viper, Ford GT or any other car with the less u fear it the faster u can go would be understanble but not such a user friendly car like the GTR.

[gwood5]

Just to add, its nice having different views with someone on youtube and them not calling you a retard. Makes a change,lol. )

[gwood5]

I can't find the link to the autocar one. Chris harris from drivers republic took the GTR round against the GT2 on a really wet track and did a 7.55 This time is on the list of N'ring times. Hes a good driver but that time was in dangerous conditions and he couldn't go anywhere near the limit.Sport auto time is obviously legit. Independant test.Yes the 7.29 is fast but for someone who knows the car as well as there driver did 9 secs quicker is not that much over 14mile!

[MaxwellReviresco]

& if the ZR1 which even an idiot would know is faster on a freeway, or in a straight line, then why does this vid prove otherwise?

[gwood5]

The video doesn't prove this. Im guessing you've seen plenty of beep, beep, beep racing from a roll vids and you'll understand if a car gets a little jump it takes awhile to get the lead back. Lets say the GTR is carrying 10mph more speed out of the last bend than the ZR1. Its going to take ages for the ZR1 to get the lead back. But it does quite easily and then loses its lead through braking from 180mph on the curves. Its where the GTR excells at!

[MaxwellReviresco]

Oh it doesn't!? lmao. Come on fan boy admit it. For one the GTR's only shot is from a dig. For two the ZR1 can sutain a higher lateral G. For three..lets just say ur theory is correct if the GTR was going a 100MPH faster, then u may consider taking the yellow bus to school or work b/c no car is going to have 100MPH difference on exit speed pimpin lol. And Forth of all it wouldn't matter..IF..the GTR had a higher exit speed 5-10-even 20mph speed on such a long straight it wouldn't matter.

[gwood5]

Lol at fan boi. I bloody prefer the ZR1 as its a bloody drivers car. Don't even get me started on that shit. I'll dig up a link for you stating the GTRs speed on the main straight from an independant test. Half the straight is up a fair hill, maybe the ZR1s gearing isn't quite suited and not in its power band. I dunno ffs. But i stand by what i said before if the GTR is carrying 10mph(ten) more out of the bend then the ZR1 will not just walk it like many would imagine

[MaxwellReviresco]

Also if u pause it at 12-12.5sec u can clearly see the ZR1 is closer to the red billboard by maybe a half a second. Then pause again at 29-29.5 almost 30 seconds and u'll see in the top right portion of the ZR1's view a white barn/house; pause it dead on 30sec & it'll dead to the right side of the ZR1. Now look at the GTR's view press play what-d'ya know about the same time split. Bunk a** vid. 1 of 2 things either Nissan lies, or their test car' is putting way more than 431-436whp to the ground

[gwood5]

I think you should be questioning why the ZR1 is not quicker TBH. I just read from that test between the GT2 and GTR that the GT2 peeked at 182mph on the straight on a really wet track. The GTR only managed 167 i think. But like said the rain had an effect on both of them speeds. in the video the ZR1 hits 176 before the climb where a slower GT2 hit 182. I did read that when the ZR1 tested there was a serious head wind. I can only imagine thats the case here because we both know the ZR1 is faster

[MaxwellReviresco]

Yeah well there's an idea that may play as a factor. Cuz honestly u can short shift, skip, suck at shifting & from a roll the ZR1 would pull, & pull a noticable amount even so & only get worse & worse as the race goes on. If a ZR1 can even walk on a GTR w/ a HKS-570 kit on it on the freeway with good driver ;-)

[sirlonghair]

@gwood5 the ZR1 makes 205MPH 20+ seconds quicker before a GT-r makes it's inferrior 193 the Zr1 will make up 10mph prity quick on the GT-r

[xj220se]

Not only that, but people keep wondering how the GTR has beaten the Porsche so badly and have been "keeping up" with the ZR1 at Nurburgring and it's because of it's AWD system controlled systematically by its fancy control system. Nurburgring is one of the most complex and tough race tracks of them all, full of crests and uneven like pavement all over the place. I heard that that lap record of only .3 slower than the ZR1 was run by the SpecV (don't know if that's true, though)..

[thc3636]

zr1 owned the GTR35

[hotstud737]

the point is the zr1 does a 1/4 in 11.3 the gtr around 11.6 Thats just the 1/4 It gets only worse for the gtr which falls behind worse Look at zr1 vs gt2 vs gtr vs ferrari 599 Motortrend video on youtude The gtr is only quick to 60mph No one needs awd and a automatic Thats a joke and even in nurenburg Still the gtr spec v with that suzuki driver can beat it.

[badrsara]

who won ..?

[TheMegaVette]

ZR 1 IS STILL THE KING......GTR WHAT? just another faceless car from japan thats all. maybe its ok for the next fast and the furius film thats all.

[bobilator1]

Go watch the Lap of the new GTR spec V is now faster then any vette.

[hotstud737]

no the vette won by 3 seconds  dummy

[sirlonghair]

@bobilator1 you don't think a car modded with a doubled pric tag should be able to make 3 second up lol $160,000 for a spec V thear is a hennasy 700ZR1 to answer it any mod On a gt-r can be done on a v8 cheeper and more effectively 80 grand for under a 100hp more and a couple hundred pounds less is a ripoff for 52,000 you can got to NRE and buy a 2500hp engine and have it mailed to your house and you still have the stock engine on a stand in your garage

[TheVtieg6]

TheMegaVette

Im not a big fan of the GTR but you comment is just stupid because the ZR1 is more expensive, more torque, more hp and less weight but only managed to b e a few seconds quicker.

[xj220se]

Yea around a track where such a fancy AWD car is supposed to have the most enormous advantage (and it does). Yet, the ZR1 still managed to beat the GTR and its SpecV version.. I wouldn't call this match stupid at all.

[sirlonghair]

@TheVtieg6 ever hear of humidity,heat,wind Mother nature is a bitch let's drive them side by side on the same day @ the same time then switch drivers and do it again

[TheVtieg6]

@sirlonghair

Yes im aware of the variables but im just saying i expected alot more from the ZR1 thats all

[TheMegaVette]

ZR1

[Airox2009]

Thank you for this vid! This clearly prooves that Nissan used a souped up GTR with at least 550 hp. It`s so evident that the GTR has far more hp than 480.

[camirocz]

bullshit ,the gtr was all stock and the 2010 is even faster they say that it has around 515 stock and that nissan is very conservative at 485 but it is all stock.

[scoobyfan2009]

You know that not all GTR's have the same hp? Where they are hand built they vary in hp. But I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be enough to affect the outcome.

[pinga350]

forget about hanging is passing chevy power a day

[stevechaconjr]

They're both great cars, undoubtedly. However I preferably choose the almighty ZR1--no pun intended.

[camirocz]

not me cause in 40 000 miles the gtr will still be tight with no rattles ,something no vette has done so far!

[SChaconJr]

I personally recently traded-in a leased Corvette C6, w/48K miles, and it was perfectly fine. No rattles to speak of, and the car drove like a dream. To each his own...

[camirocz]

yes a c6 is better but all others before that were loose

[tmchicago]

if u know how to take care of ur car

u wont have any rattles even after 100.000

miles

everything depends on the owner

[benjamite12000]

i heard 26:04. so the corvette is faster?

[MikeDegen8]

the corvette zr1 kicks ass. best productioncar to date

[GrippinJr]

GM Vomit　ＺＲ１

[popscoop12]

but GM s vomit beats Ur beast LOL!

[hrthrhs]

I really don't care too much for the cars - it's the guys behind the wheel that are just f***ing awesome!!

[almasi72]

The GT-R was a ringer. No pun intended. Several rags have done tests (as has Porsche) and nobody has come within 20 seconds of that time. And if you think the Porsche test drivers can't drive, even though the ring is in their back yard, then I have some ocean front property for sale in Arizona that may interest you.

[iiredeye]

HaHa Very Good comment, However both cars were ringers, c'mon do you really believe either a ZR1 or a GTR could lap the ring as fast or even quicker than a Enzo/Zonda clubsport/Maser...............­..................Japan try to outdo US, Us try to outdo Japan......But no one even comes close to Italy, And yes........I'm English, and I love Astons (and I'm also very proud that they don't send ringers to the ring in the pursuit of marketing).

[almasi72]

Well, look at the Corvette's results at the 24 Hours of Le Mans, especially the qualifying times. Lately Corvette and Aston Martin have been dominating GT1. For example, the qualifying lap in 2008 of the Corvette was about 8 seconds quicker than the Maserati MC12 of the Vitaphone racing team. I know that both are far from stock and I am certainly not a GM nuthugger, but the Corvette does have a strong racing history so it makes the result plausible, imo.

[popscoop12]

the CTS-V(LUXURY SADAN!) can own a GTR

[iiredeye]

Ah! me old mate popscoop talking crap on youtube again ;-) , how are you mate?

[popscoop12]

Lol great

[popscoop12]

I c ur doing the the same

[Ganbala]

please men ;stop the z06 and zr1 is a lot super faster vs the gtr is all stret racing all1/4 mile in all top speed end ! whaever why the people compare the zr1 vs the gtr in nurbur only for the time but rememner ,awd have more traction vs rwd.

[jdcha9163]

u people talk like the zr1 faster then the gtr at NUr....u people must be stupid....how can u compare a car like gtr with 480hp compare to a zr1 with 620hp....and the zr1 beat it by 3 seconds...go back to school when u learn how to compare a car to car and hp to hp....gtr with 600hp well destroy a zr1 any day at NUR...and also the GTR spec v already won the zr1 time....with less horsepower...first run at NUR 7:25sec...and now you people think a zr1 still win..think agian..GTR RULE ZR1...

[judgementdey]

Please be quiet man the Spec v has not even anncounced an official time. And If you knew anything about racing you would know that 3sec is a shit load of time. If it was a 5 lap race the ZR1 would win by 15sec that is an eternity!!!

[revcom301]

3 seconds would be a lot over a normal sized track like Laguna Seca, but over a 13 mile circuit? Very respectable that the GTR kept it to that small a difference considering its power/weight ratio is all fucked up.

[MaxwellReviresco]

1)Hp has very little to do when going around a corse like Nur. 2) Traction?GTR 4wheels, ZR1 two-Advantage GTR. 3) Gear box-F1 GTR gear box shifts in .2sec ZR1 standard Lets say u super fast every time.5? lets use a 1/4Mil. to simplyfy 3 shifts in a 1/4 .2sec x3 =.6 time loss. ZR1 .5 x 3 1.5sec Nur. is 15mils long. Add up how many shifts in Nur. Since ur smart & go to school figure out those advantages ;-) 4)Computer assistances? GTR Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC-R) aids in handling and stability

[MaxwellReviresco]

ZR1 TC-Advantage GTR. 5) Nur. is about the bumpiest trac u can race on. Confidence, in traction, & comp assisted stability is key. So if it wasn't clear to u b4, the Nissan GTR has plenty of Advantages over a ZR1. I'm not in any way being a dick a GTR is is new technology bro. It's that way for a reason. I could put my Wife in a GTR & send heer down the 1/4 mile & she'll still pull close to spec times. Drivers don't drive a GTR they assist in driving it. The computers drive it. LC, VDC-R,

[rednoseroxy]

What a crap comment. Bumpiest track. Have you ever driven it. No you haven't... Obviously. The only thing bumpy on the Nurburgring is the carousel. My dick has more bumps on it and your Momma gave em' to me. Stop posting shit you don't know about.

[MaxwellReviresco]

Not bumpy track? all u need to to is watch the vid of how much the even stable GTR bounces, hop & moves around I don't have 2 drive the track to be able to see pimpin. Now I have no idea why u'd say something so stupid in regards to my mom,lol. My mom could pick out a fag in a croud of a thousand ppl, she'd spot u quick. Oh & u might wanna get those bumps checked out man that's not normal! But try not 2 take it in the as* so much man, maybe u'll feel the bumps better next time ur out there! ;-)

[MaxwellReviresco]

that comment was stupid & pointless man. I'm not usually one to play "back at ya dick" type games. U build the track or something? u own it? family member build it, or own it..? I hope so the way u took it..lol. I say it's a hand full of a track being bumpy & u go on the attack..lol. My orginal point is no car is well planted on this track..every driver including the driver in the GTR is busy trying to keep it in line. There's reason 4 that u can practically be half asleep @ the wheel of a GTR

[MaxwellReviresco]

& stil put down fast laps. It's a computer generation car. The thing insainly easy to drive, yet it's a handful on this badas* track. The simple fact are the ZR1 is faster in a straight line, pulls more on a skid pad, breaks better, faster by seconds on a small corse, rightfully so it cost more. But it's only 3 seconds faster in a 13 mile long corse. Less useable traction? Times r fake? I care not about Nurbugring times anymore there's too much questioning about false times.

[gwood5]

You make some great points but then i've read others which complete contradict what you're putting. The reason why the GTR can keep up almost on the ring is due to those valid points you've made. But then you're slamming the times its posted. Sport auto and evo magazine have approved both models times. There completely legit. Porsche have now given up being dicks about the times. Nissan have proved there legit. On a normal wide track the ZR1 will beat the GTR easily.

[xj220se]

Why do you think it went straight to Nurburgring and not some other tracks till way after? Nissan wanted to produce a hype about this car being so much better than the new Corvette and Porsche.. However, the ZR1 still managed to come out on top =]

[MaxwellReviresco]

ATTESA E-TS Nissans system to provide power to all four wheels. It's a new breed of car. In a race of any kind what's the most impoartant thing..Driver. Races r won & lost with driver skill. Nissan simply removed as much driver error & skill poss. Now I myself, I'd rather have a car with some class, & spirit, a personality left in it. If I want a comp to drive 4 me I'd play Gran Turismo. I don't need a comp to help stoke my ego so I can post the fastest this time & have the best numbers at that

[ws6transam1971]

really an awd system that applies power to all 4 wheels? wow im surprized no one has ever come out with a system like that before.... i wonder how all the other awd cars work?

[MaxwellReviresco]

& have the best numbers of that. I'd rather know My skills got me there, & how I separate myself from others. But just my opinion :-)

[Z06norway]

Makes perfectly sense, one car 640 hp and 600+ TQ vs. 470 hp and 400 TQ, almost same frontal area and almost same cd.

Still the Nissan keeps up, anyone know why ?

[bunnariths]

"nissan cheated!" lol people come up with every excuse possible. Z06norway I think the answer to your question would be engineering. It seems like Nissan put more time into details other than power. After all - what good is power if you can't put it to the ground? GTRVspec vs ZR1 would be more interesting. In either case the vette would still make more power. If GTRV beats ZR1 it would be extremely humiliating for chevy.

[ws6transam1971]

yea, nissan must use special magic Clydesdale horsepower to accelerate a heavy car faster then possible with 480 normal horsepower. lol...

[dukviper90]

thats because nissan kickass!!...lol...its also because it has awd and it is alot easier to drive than the zr1. exiting corners are alot faster with the gtr. thats where it can keep up with the zr1 massive power on the straights!

[50908]

as a 4wd Differential slips are adjusted for better handling

yet it has Higher RPMs.

Yet For Power if U were To MODTUNE both

Cars at Max. performance The Corvette Zr1 Wins

Skyline as a 4WD iz Good For Handling & Traction, BUT For speed Over 130 iz sacrificed as a 4WD

[logic2reason]

iits based on power. Not tq. TQ has already been taken into account in the hp figure. now just becuase the gtr has less power at peak does not mean its putting down less power all the time. I would assume with great tuning from japan and those turbo's its possible to not only get higher hp faster, but with the awd, it has a bit more traction. Not to mention the description states the gtr has a lower coef. of drag. ...what do you mean by almost the same cd and front area.. @175, almost is a lot

[xj220se]

AWD? Fancy computer and high-tech stability controls? All to favour the GTR at such a complex track like Nurburgring.. Horsepower has very little to do on this track since its got 170 turns, uneven like pavement, full of crests and many other things that could just take the ZR1 one tiny little mistake to get itself out of control.. Yet, it still beat the GT-R =]

[DeScRuN]

@xj220se I cant still know how you compare the GT-R to the ZR1, yeah they both run close times but comparing a 4 door 480 hp car to a 640 hp coupe is not fair I think. The GT-R is 911 Turbo and Z06 enemies since they both have close hp numbers.

Its like comparing a Exige with slick tyres and a SL65 AMG, they are maybe close in times, but just it.

[xj220se]

@DeScRuN I wouldn't know about fair, these 2 cars are totally different. What one doesn't that the other one has it. In this track though, the GT-R had the bigger advantage with its AWD and suspension controls that enabled the GT-R driver to take those turns swiftly even if the pavement is all uneven where any RWD would be likely to lose control. On any road course, you'd see the ZR1 murders the GT-R so yeah, the GT-R is no competition for the ZR1..

[xj220se]

@DeScRuN And yeah, I'll agree with you on matters of HP that the GT-R is in about the same class as the Z06 and GT2, except none of them have AWD which is an advantage at tracks where control is imminently important like at Nurburgring.

[DeScRuN]

@xj220se Yeah, I agree but AWD is and advantage know, years ago rally cars where rwd because they thought awd was heavy and like diesels were considereded slow and know won 24h races. Maybe that would change or maybe not, just the GT-R has a superior drivetrain,more sofisticated and awd-computer-helped.

[xj220se]

@DeScRuN It is real sophisticated like you say.. But in a way they did push its limits as much to a point where it breaks down.. That's why Nissan had the GT-Rs launch control reprogrammed down to 3000RPM, or somewhere around there, from the 4500RPM launch it originally was set from stock.

[donisthabomb1]

i think at 176 the vette was getting really unstable, u can just sense it and the car was shaking, maybe on a better day it could get a slightly better time. but u gotta give it up to the GTR for staying right there. the Vspec vs Zr1 will be fun.

[carmodifire]

vspec did it in 7:25

[granturismoking]

ACR did it in 7:22.

[Jenimi]

On the same straight the 997 GT3 had a top speed of 272km/h(the 996 GT3 did that aswell).The 90hp more powerful Z06 did 270km/h.The Porsche Turbo did 283km/h (a bit faster than the Zonda F and 430 Scuderia which did 281km/h).

The Corvette C6 did 253km/h.The RS4 did 262km/h (8km/h faster than the R8).The GT2 did 293km/h while more powerful Zonda F only did 281km/h.

btw the 996 GT3 has 360hp and was 2km/h faster than the 512hp Z06.

[sejodieron]

the zr1 is %156 more faster than gt-r

[Oz9110]

GTR sucks!!! ZR-1 just wiped it's ass with this box of noodles and yes this is on the track! Imagine what the ZR1 would do to this spider roll on the streets, obliterate it! The Z06 completely kill this over-hype car in Oman. See Z06 vs GTR in Oman, GTR was embarrassed.

[ibisiah24]

The GT-R has a speed limiter. it is limited to 180km/h unless on a track. Watch the Top Gear review of the GT-R. learn something.

[Oz9110]

Stop crying!!!  Fucking excuses...

[BangcockDangerous]

What a "F" you smoking lately? I'm not a big fan of GTR but you can't compare entry level GTR against ZR1. The prices are totally different.

[yosoylavergavoladora]

CORVETTE!!!!!

[Snortemup]

Your gay you fucking dumbass biased fanboy.

[Jenimi]

On the same straight the 997 GT3 had a top speed of 272km/h(the 996 GT3 did that aswell).The 90hp more powerful Z06 did 270km/h.The Porsche Turbo did 283km/h (a bit faster than the Zonda F and 430 Scuderia which did 281km/h).

The Corvette C6 did 253km/h.The RS4 did 262km/h (8km/h faster than the R8).The GT2 did 293km/h while more powerful Zonda F only did 281km/h.

That simply shows that the laws of physics don't apply on that straight.Or maybe it's just that some cars are faster than others?

[ryancave1234]

the only cars on hte road that beat the zr1 are the enzo and ferraris newest whichruns 3.1 to 60 and 11.1 quarter mile time...but those cars r 600k. and the newest has no radio or AC, zr1 beats all porsche,,, all ford....all dodge, nissan, etc...without all hte "technology" and computer assistance thats makes more expensive cars actually slower?!?! haha

[DeScRuN]

hahha that made me laught. Why you always talk about Zr1 beating other cars in the quarter mile. Will you stop in a traffic light and do the quarter mile? The quarter mile comparision is not for that cars. The GT-R has less HP, 4 seats, much less engine, better fuel economy, and smaller tyres (I say this because better tyres, better grip)

[ryancave1234]

it beats em in acceleration and on track. wtf r u tlaking about.. the gtr even gets beat my z06 on street take a look watch?v=SYvLIeVIV9M

[DeScRuN]

pfff, if you don't know is a 6.2 L V8 505 HP vs a 3.8 l V6 about 470. Also the GT-R is made for track and th Z06 for aceleration on track the GT-R beats easily the Z06 and the Z06 beats the GT-R on aceleration with that big engine. The Z06 is also very fast in track but the GT-R is better. For me I give 9.5/10 to GT-R and 9/10 to the Z06 (bad chasis with plastic)

[ryancave1234]

the stock gtr time is 7.38...FACE

the gtr v spec time they are "hoping will be under 7.30"

if a stock gtr really ran a 7.29 i think they would be sure the lighter n higher hp vpec would be even better but they arent...bc this car time around the ring is going to be similiar--strikenly similar-- to hte actual vspec

[ryancave1234]

FACT** lol not face my bad

[granturismoking]

amazing how the gtr, weighing 4000lb and having only 480hp(supposedly) went as fast as a ZR1, which has 638hp and weighs 3200lbs. Hmmmmmm..Not possible with only 480hp, period. It would need at least 570hp.

[kickinbackinOC]

The ZR1 was facing a stiff headwind down the straight, thats what I heard.

[birdbeak22]

gtr looks like a boring car

[ganuv]

I personaly don't think the zr1 can beat the gt2 in a 1/4 lime race.

[ryancave1234]

well motortrend reviewed both cars..

zr1 0 to 60 3.2 11.2 quarter

gt2 with launch 3.4 11.4

without 3.8 11.8

i guess ur assumptions are wrong

[ryancave1234]

they are expecting a time of 7.20-7.22 with a pro driver inhte zr1 and unoffical vpec times are coming in at 7.25. also pre factory gtrs like this one have allegedly been tuned. car and driver tested a US Spec gtr and achieved 0 to 60 in 4.1 and 12.2 quarter mile.

watch?v=SYvLIeVIV9M

[mbaculio]

The driver of this ZR1 at the Ring is James "Jim" Mero who was a professional driver. He drove for the "ZR-1 Corvette Team USA" in the 1995 24 Hours of Le Mans. Go google "James Mero 1995 Le Mans"

[ryancave1234]

maybe so but there are other famous vette drivers who can achieve better times... jim himfelf said if he had anohter shot he could probably shave 2 seconds off that time

[granturismoking]

True, Just watch the full video, and you can see that he doesn't powershift, keeps it a low rpms, and doesn't push it all the way

[DeScRuN]

The RPMS is because of that big engine more RPMS will lose torque and will oversteer much more.

[DeScRuN]

Yes because he oversteered many times but only if he do his best lap time ever, doesn't make another errors, and much many things.

[Airox2009]

7:22,4 with achieved in the ZR-1 with driver Jan Magnussen.

[xj220se]

[sighs] As much as I wish that was true, I heard that Jan Magnussen was State-side when that lap record was supposedly achieved.. Jim Mero did say that a few secs could be shoved off his lap record at the Ring with the ZR1. You can see in the video (if you watch closely) that he makes 2 mistakes. Also, i don' tknow if it's true, but i heard there was some head wind that when he was going onto that long straight at the end that prevented him from reaching higher top speeds =/

[Airox2009]

I heard that too that the Jan Magnussen lap was never really done. Looking at Meros lap, I`m sure a sub 7:25 lap would be possible. Unfortunately the ZR-1 only achieved a 7:38 time in the german sport auto mag, the same time as the GTR in the same mag. Sport auto complained about the ZR-1`s lack of sufficient downforce.

[xj220se]

Yea.. Lol guess nobody can trust any of their times anymore. It seems like impossible to achieve those times they so highly claim. All i wish to see are vids of their runs so we can compare them one on one.

[power2theq]

You can see the ZR1 shifts into 6th at 174 mph. After that, the car barely accelerates. There are a few factors. The ZR1 has a cd of at least .35. The 6th gear is too long for optimum acceleration, just like on other Vettes. Finally, the headwinds held the car back.

[disbsam333]

There are definitely headwinds. If you look in the beginning half, the ZR1 quickly achieves 170mph, and on this straight, it is only able to hit 175 with strain. There is strong headwind for sure

[coryc10]

both cars are insane. the gtr had a much greater starting speed off of that corner due to the awd. its like a head start if you think about it. imagine you start a race at a 40 roll and the other starts at a 60mph roll huge dif.(plus all the headwinds blah blah) it sounds like a huge excuse to me but hey if there were headwinds then thats a HUGE disadvantage as well. i am a vette fanboy but i cannot rag on the gtr. i would like to see these cars from a dig. cant wait till that happens.

[venomviper32]

how come the zr1 was corners ahead early in the lap, but was stuck in place at the straight? actually watch the comparo! jim mero made a HUGE mistake about 2 and a half minutes in that cost a second (200 feet), and a few others combined without a headwind would bring it 7:25 or lower. the gtr was driven near perfectly. i can easily tell none of you have ever driven or examined a car as the person who made this vid doesnt even know why the rpms go down.

[mbaculio]

Can you give us your opinion on why the RPMs went down (preferably something I have not mentioned)?

I drive a 6-speed manual by the way.

[venomviper32]

watch the RPMs when the car shifts! in low gear, the zr1 has enough power to overcome the wind and get back up to the redline in the next gear. the zr1 cant stay at 6500 rpm in 5th gear and keep accelerating, so jim shifts into 6th for a lower gear ratio. every time he shifts up and goes faster, there is more drag, thats why it takes longer to get to 6500 in higher gears. in sixth, with the crosswind, the zr1 simply cant overcome the drag. the gear ratio is too low and the drag is too much.

[GTRnev8820]

GTR was a sec last on straight

even know vette go maind BLOWING 630 HP

but vette is more unstable then GTR

i felt vette is gona crash any minet

[Ven100]

I love how some of the Vette boys (only some though) try to say the GT-R wasn't stock because it was too close to the ZR1 at the end of the straight. Nevermind the reported headwind for the ZR1 and the near perfect conditions for the GT-R. As power2theq stated, the driver either lifted off the accel or the headwinds were really strong, or combination of both. It's clear to see though that the ZR1 should've kept accelerating past the plateau of ~176

[tommieboi707]

wow thats pretty good synchro vid there. the gtr was able to keep up on the main straights. it was only behind by about 1/10 of a second untill they hit the corners, then it was neck and neck

[erogers303]

I completely agree with you. did you watch the other video, title ZR1 vs GT-R at the Nurburgring Sync at Entrance. according to the neutral timer the ZR1 finish at 7:28.548 and the GT-R finish at 7:29.149. where is this 3sec time of the ZR1 coming from.

[tommieboi707]

i know where the zr1s 7:26 time is coming from..but i gotta warn ya... you wont like the smell lol

[oistein74]

Id take the original Z06 over both these two.... ZR1 and GTR are ugly ducklings.

[speed4mike]

That's too much HP to not pull away. Especially, when it's lighter, unless the wind is strong against you coupled with the fact that your pushing more air our of the way (aerodynamics is EXTREMELY important at high speeds).

[TranceAddikt07]

gtr rules hands down wait till the v spec arrives

[camarosam]

no one cares, its not out yet, so who cares

[Zeruel82]

The drived of the ZR1 said that he had strong headwind on the main straight.

[shikishima2]

Poor zr1 which is influenced by weather condition.

[power2theq]

The ZR1 should have been much faster down that long straight. Either the driver lifted for whatever reason or the head winds were really strong. It is also possible that the ZR1 was slowed by its drag. The Z06 has a .34 cd so I can see the ZR1 having a .35 or .36 cd. The GTR has a .27 cd.