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  • hey dave,you know sometimes i forget about staking my tarps down. i always go straight for the lean too style.that is wye i like watching your videos. thanks dave

  • Dave I love the videos you and your family post here . I have a question for you, I was in training at Ft. Knox during a down pour we put up our tent but then due to the unlevel ground had to dig a trench around the tent due to water running inside. I have never seen a video that addresses this issue and was wondering if you had run into this problem and if how you dealt with it.

    Take care my friend,

    Gray-ghost

  • @grayghost1031 Absolutely Bro.. If the ground is sloped at all.. you will need to trech out. One thing people don't think about is that it doesn't have to be a trench 6 feet wide.. simply a few inches wide.. and the same deep

  • Practice makes perfect. No end of vids can match going out there and doing. I admit no tarp and not done it so need to address the problem. Thanks

  • you know David the more I watch you build this tipi the more I understand why the native American used it. I can be set up any where.and you can build a fire inside it.with all the other shelter types you can build a fire inside.With a lento you only get half the shelter covered..

    I'm woundering what would be better a canvas tarp are the vinal tarps.I would think a 8x12 canvas tarp would be kind of hard to pack due to weight.

  • @mogges1

    Remember Bro.. The natives didn't carry things. They use a travois or carried it on horses. Kinda like our modern day truck.. If you had to pack out a teepee on your back.. you probably will want a vinyl tarp. Canvas is VERY heavy for the same size. HTH

  • Also I have look all over the enter net for those tarp clip like you show in the videos. but all I keep finding are those gator looking clip.I have used them and they suck.those you show seem to hold good.

  • David could I use that same size tarp to build a tipi tarp shelter.If I have this right I would need polls 8 foot long.then I would have an area 10 of space in side right

  • @mogges1

    Whatever the height if your circle.. from the middle point on the flat edge to the middle of the circle.. make the poles about 2 feet longer.

  • this will be great for when it starts raining or snowing and we need to shelter up quick

  • nice video.

    the first time I spent then night out I had to set my tarp at around 7 pm, inside the deep brazilian jungle. For my luck I had been practicing knots the whole previous day and was able to set the tarp without seeing it :)

  • great info,i didnt know about the finger, fist way of telling time. ill use this to my advantage in the future.

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  • @sharpshooter1231

    Yes you can.. and we often do :)

  • It's amazing, isn't it? I have used a design like that so many times, and never seen anyone use one EXACTLY like it until not... =)

  • Excellent Sir. Basic. To the point. Basic. Sometimes most you can plan for when it all goes down.

  • Great vid. Keep'm comming!

  • got any advice on keeping the bugs out, or is that not a problem? im talking mosquito's and creepy crawlies. i have a cheap 8' x 10' tarp i've been dieing to play with but i live in arizona and the last thing i want is a bark scorpion landing that stinger in me.

  • @nommerOfChickens

    You have 2 options if you're worried about bugs. You can get off the ground in a hammock, or you can use a tent that has a netting on it and is completely closed in. I have used both.. and particularly like the hammock. My bivy is also great to use..... it's one person. lightweight, and easy to setup.

  • @BushcraftOnFire I just wanted to let you people know..You have teached me so much and im very thankful! Keep doing what your doing! and live a long good life :)

  • @WargOutfits Glad to be of help :) Blessings

  • good job brother

  • You must know what red bugs are?

  • @SidneyBou

    Mites dude?? Is that what you are referring to? You find them on logs.. not the ground

  • @BushcraftOnFire I don't know they lay eggs or bite you and leave red bumps that itch like heck latter. Maybe they don't have them where it snows. I live in south Louisiana. I have no Idea what the insect looks like I only know the effect they leave. Maybe it is what I catch because I don't catch poison ivy.

  • @SidneyBou

    Sounds like chiggers.. They are in tall grass.. a place you definitely want to stay away from!

  • Any chance of seeing you actually in the "bush" and not in your back yard with the jean shorts,white socks and sneakers.??????

  • @NKGMAN

    I don't have to go to the bush to do every one of the 275 videos we have done.. Any chance of you putting out a video? Show me your stuff.. Sorry if I sound cynical.. but I get a bit miffed at all of you arm chair survivalists that don't do anything.. and want me to travel somewhere to do my vids.. I LIVE in the Bush dude.. My backyard is more Bush than some people have ever seen. BTW.. you haven't watched many of our vids if you don't ever see the Bush.. we go off the property often..

  • @BushcraftOnFire some mothers do have em ey

  • @NKGMAN why was he turning you on?

  • @NKGMAN Yeah, don't let "NKG" bug ya; continuing to suck up on gov't bennies, he's been "a kept man" for decades, and, no real skills he suffers from long-term inferiority complex, pity 'im—keep up with the videos, and the good work with your family, . . .

  • This vid helped so much my son set up a tarp just like this after watching

  • How big is the tarp? Did I miss that info?

  • @survivalistblogcom

    Any size will work.. I think this one was a 10X8

  • Thanks so much Dave. I'm going to give it a try tomorrow. If the rain holds out that is. Thanks again

  • a drip line on the ridge line where it meets the tarp..is there any special length of drip line or any specila way to affix it? Or can i just tie a piece of line around the ridge line any old way?

  • @1969jmac

    I just tie a Prussic with the ends hanging down about 1' or so. If you slide it 1" under the tarp.. it should let everything run off of it

  • great set up. I am just getting started with learning different tarp configurations and I keep running into the same problem. When it rains the water runs down the line im using for a ridge line and drips into the shelter. How do you work around that to keep from getting dripped on?

  • @1969jmac

    There are a few options..

    #1 - Put a "drip line" where your tarp hits the ridge line.

    #2 - Put the ridge line on the outside of the tarp instead of under it. I will be showing this in a shortly upcoming video!

  • I apreciate the videos man. Its nice to see people with common interests doing what we do. I wish I had the free time to make some videos myself. Keep up the good work.

  • Nice vid but i could set up my eureka lightning tent just as quick. Better shelter. More room.

  • Very nice. I don't use trekking poles, but if I ever hand to travel across a treeless environment like a tundra or a prairie, I would probably just lash a stick to the back of my pack and use that.

  • could this be use as a tent all the time like winter here in northern missouri?

  • @bobinmissouri

    Tarps can be used as tents.. as long as you have the proper setup for where you are. Tents and tarps don't keep you warm.. they simply keep the wind out (which in turn keeps you warmer). Hope that Helps

  • what town do you live in

  • @graffiticandy

    We live in Mansfield, MO

  • @BushcraftOnFire cool i live in Bentonville AR

  • @graffiticandy

    The home of Walmart.. We did a Winter Camp just South of you 2 years ago.. Beautiful area of the Country! You aren't too far from us (2 hours or so). Hope to have you up for a camp!

  • @BushcraftOnFire it might happen i dont know 

  • great video considering all you used was a tarp , some tentpegs , a stick , some nylon and some rocks

  • do you know of anywhere i can pick up a lightweight canvas 8x8 tarp???

  • @secretsquirrell13

    You can find silnylons online.. you can easily get polytarps at your local hardware store or Walmart type store.

  • @BushcraftOnFire siltarps are great use them

  • i always carry a tarp. will certainly try this idea! thanks

  • Nice one Dave. Thanks for that.  D

  • howcome it takes you so long to set it up? 45 minutes? makes no sense to me. btw you remind me of dennis hopper :D

  • @relfexreaction

    4 to 5 mins Bro.. not 45 mins.. LOL! Dennis Hopper ... hmmmm.. I guess that's not too bad

  • @BushcraftOnFire - lol, thanks for clarifying that! :D

  • I just used this shelter the other night, it works great, the only thing missing was a good ground insulation, nearly froze.

  • @flamedrag18

    why was that? i wouldn't even think of sleeping without insulation, even if it's just some branches and such.

  • @relfexreaction huh?

  • @flamedrag18 - um, you said no insulation, i thought you were talking about ground insulation

  • I just picked up a tarp 12' x 8' for $8.00 thanks for the video

  • @DrReaper

    Sounds like a great deal! Way to go...

  • thank you for this idea, i was just about to sink money in a next 1 man tent. Great video Dave.

  • G'day Dave, We call 'em Pegs.. Dave not Steaks! we eat steaks

  • As usual excellent video! Thank you for your time and effort.

  • thanks

  • ideally youd want another tarp to put underneath as a groundsheet, otherwise in any rain heavier than spitting the water would wet the ground and get you and your gear wet still. amirite?

  • ^that shelter is simple, but better i think, than to spend extra cash for a profi tent / shelter / sleep system. The simple way is often the better way;) Thanks David!!!!!

  • Thank you. This was very informative and well presented.

  • instead of extending the sides out, i would fold them under to make a floor for my shelter.

  • id split the pole and use to so you have a square opening and no obstructed entrance or two sticks of some sort

  • schwing ! right on , this will be my shelter for this weekend up in the angeles forest. . . . its gonna rain so this is gonna be a rad tent.

  • awesome shelter. :) Great stuff thanks :)

  • Ah I'm thinking about getting a tarp. I'm a smaller person 5"3.

    You didn't look covered under tarp. I mean a light wind blowing towards you will easily push rain onto your face.

    So I'm thinking I might want an 8by10.

    Does this make sense or do you think I should get a 6 by 8.

  • a 10X12 is my preference Rad... but an 8X10 is quite sufficient however. Either one will keep you dry. a 6X8 might be small if you are using it in a tarp setup.. although over a hammock it might be ok.

  • @radlations about the wind, that's why you firstly always look at the weather forecast before leaving for a hiking or camping trip, also, this shelter is easy to erect, drop, and erect again, so if the wind was to change, you can easily turn the shelter away from the wind in a minute, I know, I had to and all I needed to do was remove the tent stakes and turn the rear of the shelter into the wind and staking it down again, very simple.

  • lol, 4 to 5 mins and the video is 10 min with editing

  • Tony..

    Yeah.. it's funny to me too sometimes.. It takes far longer to demonstrate something than it does to just do the task. It's important to us to make everything clear enough and in as much detail as we can so that others can follow easily! Thanks for your comments.

  • Thank you, this is the most detailed video on that particular tarp setup...

    If I may suggest...

    Please have that shirt dry cleaned and white crew socks do not go with shorts.

  • I like my high socks :) Keeps the ticks off my legs.. And I don't think I have had anything dry cleaned in 30 years!!

    I never claimed to be a fashion consultant.. If I was.. I probably, in today's times, would have to wear black socks with my boots! ROTFLOL!

    Thanks for your comments.

  • Good point... ticks are terrible creatures.

    I dry clean my gear simply because they cost a fortune (Marmot, Mountain Hardwear etc...) and I like to keep them looking new for many years.

    Besides, you never know when a young attractive woman may be in need of assistance in the woods. Strangely this fantasy has never materialized.

  • This is a really nice video. I've been put off by $200 tarps and tents, and I think you have a smart way of dealing with this issue. Thanks!

  • Thank you for another informative video.

  • you should get yourself a paracord bracelet, something like 50 feet of paracord for shelter in a pinch, and its always on you..i plan on making one myself soon lol they seem a handy thing to have, can also get wallet size emergency blankets that would be good for shelter if you needed one fast.

  • whats up with youtube a lot of videos especially your videos have been either really slow or when i tried to watch they said an error has occured please try again later

  • That's a Youtube problem David..

    If you refresh the page it fixes it right away..

  • Dave, the refresh hasn't worked today. Usually it does, just not today. They were doing maintenance early this morning, so that may be it.

    Adai

  • a msr hubba hubba is about 4 pounds, sleeps 2, and can be setup in a few minutes...

    not only that but it's a fully tent that stops bugs from getting to you....

    Just sayin lol

  • At 4 pounds just for the tent.. and a $250 price tag I will stay with my tarp and mosquito net.. or my 2 pound bivy :)

    I definitely appreciate the knowledge though.. thanks :)

  • Yea it can be pricey, I just like the comfort of knowing that if bad weather hits I'm pretty safe.

    I've been completely soaked before in a tarp setup, during a rain storm. Just my 2 cents.

  • Very useful info...thanks!

  • this was an excellent video... thanks. Shelter is very important and you have provided an inexpensive alternative to a tent.

  • I think it's funny how you say Missoura not Missouri.

    great videos keep them coming.

  • Way Awesome! Been watching your videos for a couple hours now. Great job on them! This and the hobo stove video has got me considering camping out in he back yard tonight!

  • i set my tent up and went bak to my car to get some stuff and the sun set and i couldnt find my tent. i slept in my car and got the tent in the morning

  • David, I used to live about 2-3 hours north of you, we had plenty of chiggers to deal with, what are your suggestions on dealing with them while laying on the ground and you don't have bug repelant?

  • OK...

    A couple of things you can do..

    #1 - Stay out of high grass when possible!

    #2 - Fleabane and Yarrow are among plants that help as a natural repellant

    #3 - If you have Kerosene available put it on a rag and tie around your leg.. this will keep them off you as well.

    HTH

    David

  • #3 - the kerosene tip - it will keep them off you and you off fire!

  • Looking at your questin again I didn't answer you fully :/ Sorry :)

    When sleeping on the ground you need to stay away from heavily grassy areas.. and make sure that you use a good groundcloth. This will help alleviate most of the problem...

  • hey Dave! I am liking the vids! New to your channel. One thing I have in my bag or you can roll up in your tarp is mosquito netting. It weighs allmost nothing and it makes for a better night. No flys, gnats or mosquitos. Just drape it over your opening. Tarp clips, paper clips or clothespins work great and weigh nothing as well.

  • Woodland...

    Great suggestion! I actually carry netting in my "Nested Kit" (BOB) which will be a future set of videos.

  • Cool! Can't wait to see them!

  • We do have more then our fair share of rocks in missouri.

  • Great video

  • do you have a any suggestions for this same scenario without a stick? like a free standing version.

  • If you had not staked out the sides at 4:30 and just tucked them under i.e. just put in the first 4 stakes you get enough material pretty much a full waterproof floor inside your shelter, also when camping in an open field as per your scenario it keeps the tall grass etc and the little critters that live on it away from you when sleeping 'cause they are now under the floor

  • Again so simple and functional

  • What a great idea. This type of shelter will retain much more heat than a leanto configuration especially with a fire in front.

  • Staring at the sun is bad mmmmkay?

    Couldnt resist :P

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  • what size is the tarp? great videos

  • The tarp I used here was an 8X10, but you can use any size that will work for you! If you use a 9X12 the sleeping area will be across instead of deep.

  • Very nice video Dave 5/5

  • Nice quicky shelter!

  • Great video Dave and i like the idea of a free standing shelter. You don't have to worry about finding two trees close to tie to.

  • great video!

  • that was a nice Tarp Setup 5/5

  • i'd never seen this before. it was great. quick and simple perfect emergenct shelter.

  • ***** FoF *****

    Hej David .... really nice setup !

    I call this a " triple E " :o)

    EASY - EFFECTIV - EXPEDITIOUS

    And i`m very pleased about ... "each fist =

    1 hour " ... i didn`t know that!

    But ... 700 km north from my homwtown it won`t work, cause there is already the influential of the midnight sun . ;o)

    To what degree of latitude you can use this skill?

  • Jan..

    You can use it anywhere.. since the sun always sets at the same rate in the place where you are. You simply have to adapt it to your location.. We are at 37 degrees North. I would go out and try it.. and see how far off it is in your area. You might have to use more or less than a fist.. but once you adjust it, it should work for you.

  • The sun moves through about a fist of arc per hour everywhere, thing is in the far north or south in summer that arc of travel through the sky is much more parallel to the horizon than it is in the middle latitudes

  • Nice Job Dave and well instructed buddy!

  • Good info David. 5/5

  • Best video so far :) Very well done - i did not know about that 'finger = 15 minutes' thing. That's actually really good to know.

    Too many 'emergency shelter' videos forget to mention how long it takes to set up and a lot of them will leave you still building after the sun goes down. This is a great emergency system.

  • Good system... 5/5

  • nice Dave thanks

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