You people are crazy! This is not cruel. Except for the suturing. Not needed. A septic stick is all that would be necessary. But all you whackos below need to get a life. Cut it off, clean it with antiseptic and septic stick to stop bleeding and done in 30 seconds. Puppy goes to nurse and in 2 minutes will not remember anything. Do it in 3-5 days. Easy and NOT CRUEL. We do worse to human babies all in the name of good health.
Oh yeah. This is good. I love it. Especially listening to the puppy's scream. I wish I am the one who is doing the declaw, I would declaw more deeply. Nice screaming puppy.
Oh yeah. This is good. I love it. Especially listening to the puppy's scream. I wish I am the one who is doing the declaw, I would declaw more deeply. Nice screaming puppy.
Oh yeah. This is good. I love it. Especially listening to the puppy's scream. I wish I am the one who is doing the declaw, I would declaw more deeply. Nice screaming puppy.
YO, WTF DID ANYONE READ???? "No anesthetic was used--this wasn't done to be cruel or cheap--because the potential complications of drugging such a small animal are significant."
So Before getting mad. READ FIRST. The Dog WAS SMALL e___o to Be handling that kind of drug e____e!!
Why do you do something like that to a little puppy? Absolute no sense in it! Yes, the claw itself (not the entire "thumb") can be ripped off sometimes, but that is not very often and heals in short time. The thumb itself... very rare!
To cut off the entire thumb (yes, this is the entire thumb) is EXTREMELY painful, try to cut off your own thumb with a scissor, and you know how it feels!
If I get this vet in my hands, I would make him suffer the same procedure! and cut off other things also!
This poor dog. WTF is wrong with you? Why do you do this to a puppy? This brought tears to my eyes. Obviously it was incredibly painful. It is like cutting off the thumb of a newborn! You shouldn't be allowed to have animals!
My Lab's breeders get the dew claws removed because they breed for hunting and most dew claw accidents are from dogs being in the brush and clipping their dew claws on sticks/logs/etc.. I would prefer that she would have her dew claws, as i do find them necessary, but i have seen a friend's dog have a bad accident, having to remove both dew claws with a long recovery. I'd prefer to have this done, than an accident.
This is pretty standard and each animal reacts differently. Not all are as dramatic as this puppy. Getting these removed so young saves them from having to do this when an accident happens with an adult dog. If they are adult, they need the anesthesia just to fix the wound. Puppies are so young the "trauma" will not affect them. There are worse animal practices that require more attention than this simple procedure: dog/cock fighting for ex.
@jocw101087 AMEN! Are you the only sane person on here. I hate to repeat it but not only do we do more to animals but also human babies. We sterilize animals (which i agree with) but that cause a helluva lot more pain than this. I just would not suture and use a septic stick. Thanks
I am schock with this images, how can someone do so many harm to a litle baby?? Are you guys stupid or what? Isn t there anything to put babu«y to sleep. Hope one day someone do to you a cirurgury without drugs. Idiots
@rotaxenos In North America they routinely cut baby boys foreskins off when they have just been born, they use no anaesthesia - this is no joke! You can google it, and you can see video on here of them doing it and the little baby screaming in agony. Alot of fucked up things happen in the USA. So this video does not surprise me one bit.
@BHFanticos2 some dogs are really active, they'll run into places as an ADULT and rip it off by getting it caught on a tree or something, IT WILL HURT like hell if that happens, rather him getting removed now because it is less painful and less bloody. It helps us by just one less nail to cut, that's what i always thought. xD
at this age the dog's bones have not yet ossified, making the removal procedure easily done without asesthesia. It looks cruel, but think about it. I'm sure the human babies who get their ears peirced at only days old scream and cry as well. This is not animal cruelty. By removing the dew claws they are preventing injuries at an older age (such as what just happened to my 2 year old dog, her dew claw got completely ripped off while playing at the park.)
@tinyb0nes Thank you for putting a legitimate and educated comment on here. Yea, it seems horrible, but that puppy will cry just as loud when you put it in a kennel for the night so it doesn't chew up the house and go to the bathroom everywhere. It still goes in the kennel though. The dew claw removal is standard and gets done when they are so young, it has no effect on their social development. Not abusive.
This is just disgusting and horrible! How would you idiots feel if you were awake while someone just clipped off the top of you're fingers! Watching this makes me cry! It's horrible! How can us humans honestly do stupid things like this? We were born with nails, they were born with claws. You shouldn't just go and remove them! If you don't like it, then don't have an animal in the first place... :(
@astraean a caring vet would say "No I wont do this, your dog has these claws for a reason" and a loving owner would think "I'll take my dog as he/she is, becouse I love her"
keep your lame excuses, dog are not used for hunting and work anymore.
@LunaTemari I'll leave it up to you to call 100 vets and ask how many of them would refuse to do this procedure on principle. Then I'll ask you to call 100 dog groomers and ask them to quantify the pain and discomfort of having to fix ingrown and overgrown dewclaws.
I'm sure that over the lifetime of the dog I've saved it HOURS of pain and discomfort from trimming those claws versus a minute of pain as a puppy.
@astraean US vets are worthless, so I realy dont need to ask them.. I could talk to a drunk homeless guy and it'd be the same thing.
I've had quite a few dogs, all active dogs, no ripped dew claws and clipping them is done in 3 seconds.
only exception would be for hunting dogs or poor bred dogs of wich the dew claw is not attached to the bone.. otherwise its just pure lazyness of the owner.
@LunaTemari Why would you clip their nails at all if you don't believe in preventing more pain later with a little pain now? Isn't the whole point of cutting their nails to prevent problems from happening?
I know that with my dogs, I have caused MUCH more nail pain on my dogs who have their dewclaws than was caused via the surgery on the ones who don't. One short cut as an adult and there is easily more pain, longer, more blood, and more chance of infection than the puppy procedure.
@astraean I'm not sure in what way you clip a dogs nails but mine have had no blood involved :\ a small clip while they are laying down on the couch and done, no pain involved. they dont even raise their head, and I dont even do it on a regular basis.
some dogs like my mallies do use their dew claw to climb the rocks or the cut down tree's that we have in the forrest here so they arent completely useless in my point of view
Oh ok, got it. To prevent painful injuries in the future.
That's why the very all other countries where this procedure is considered as illegal are retarded - because they are not caring for the animals.
Yeah.
And you guys in the US are also amputating the toes and fingers of your newborn children because they may break or cut them when they are older which is way more painful and bloody as the little surgery done when the kids were babies.
@neferibi Actually, amputating infant flesh is the most common surgical procedure carried out in the USA. It's called circumcision. While it's a different issue, I'm decidedly against infant circumcision. That's a choice an adult should make.
The dewclaw issue is rather overblown. It's not a thumb, it has no function, it's vestigial. But likewise, the risk of injury is low if the dewclaw is tight and well formed. For me, it's worth it to avoid having to trim the nail alone, no other reason.
"The puppy clearly feels pain during the procedure, but is quiet immediately afterwards and none of the puppies made any indication of lingering pain or discomfort."
IF anyone would put a human (adult or child) being through that kind of treatment the puppies are going through, the human would also feel pain and trying to get out of the situation while screaming - to become silent as soon as it's over.
It's a normal reaction in such situations and it's called SHOCK!
@neferibi "Shock" has a medical definition, is life threatening, and no, none of these puppies was in shock. Shock: "bodily collapse or near collapse caused by inadequate oxygen delivery to the cells; characterized by reduced cardiac output and rapid heartbeat and circulatory insufficiency and pallor."
seems as if the wise guy requires a knowledge boost.
The every day language term "shock" also refers to acute stress reactions:
I wonder what you will do if e.g. mandarin talking persons keep you in custody and starts cutting off parts of your body. He does to prevent you from future injuries.
You will be happy, eh?
I just hope that ppl like you and the vet will be renicarnated as pets facing equal owners and vets as the poor puppies.
@neferibi Although no "mandarin talking persons" were involved, I've had parts of my body cut off to prevent future injuries. I've had ingrown toenails cut off and the tissue burned with acid, I've had tonsils removed from my throat, I've had wisdom teeth and jaw bone removed to keep the rest of my mouth healthy, I've had gum surgery and I've had moles removed all to prevent future injury. Some of these were done as a child where adults made a weighted choice for me.
@astraean Would you consider using an experienced breeder to remobve your puppies dews?? i have bred 6 litters to date and to me this is way too long a procedure, honestly a breeder with solid experience would be able to do this in seconds praticly pain free with no blood or stitching, i do think that vets make too much of it.
And hey, i have never been charged for my mentor to do this, stud fee is all inclusive, advice, everything
@MAISIEMOLLY1 Of course I would consider having an experienced breeder remove the dew claws. You can see other videos here of breeders doing this at home days earlier and the pups don't appear to even wake up. I was happy with the results here, we had no problems and I prefer a non-dewed dog. But I see no reason to not have the procedure done days earlier. In this case, there was a blizzard and this was the first opportunity.
@ChristopherLandauer Oh i see, i diddnt read it properly, and your right that would explain the more noise he is makeing, i assume they were done after 5days old? after then the nearve/blood supply starts to form hence why they will feel pain from as you probably know.but then again i am in the UK and i am pretty sure dew claw removal will soon be made illegal, if only they could take into account the injuries my poor Lurcher had from ripping hers off, did this by running on sand!!!
Dear mr. Dog/Cat owner. If you feel uncomfortable of a fully clawed pet, then please go to the local pet shelter and find an already declawed pet there and we will find your current pet a new home.
A caring vet would forego the 1000 easy earned dollars for the sake of the pet's health.
A not caring vet would recommend the procedure because it's 1000 bucks easy earned, and many more bucks later when curing declawing-sideeffects.
@neferibi Removing the dewclaws in a dog is not the same as de-clawing a cat. Conflating the two is not helpful or informative. Nor is conflating pet adoption with ownership and breeding.
And no one ever earned $1,000 to remove a dog's dewclaws. Making up garbage like that is, likewise, neither helpful nor informative.
@jamsyjo Most people with an extra digit on their hand or foot do have them removed. And, nail resection is also a standard surgery for people with ingrown nails, I've had it done myself. I accepted the pain of the surgery to prevent more harm later, as is the case here.
Pain isn't the worst thing in life, and a this isn't a pointless or gratuitous procedure. Some might chose not do have it done as is their right, but this is done out of responsible care for the animal.
ok honestly people whi think this is cruel must not know much about dogs. first of all, its a border collie which means it is a hyper active dog. you remove the dewclaws so they dont get caught on the carpet or caught when theyre outside. it is done when they are young because they dont remember the pain and it heals much faster. imagine if this dog had his dew claws and caught one of them on something and ripped it off. thats like you having your pinky ripped off. thats why it needs done.
@mlabcxk If only it were so easy to dose such a small creature in a manner that would not lead to greater harm or death. Injecting a narcotic still causes the puppy pain from the shot. But you seriously risk over-dose and other complications. Drugs aren't magic or no-risk.
This puppy was quiet and calm mere seconds after the procedure was done. I don't think that is an extraordinary amount of pain. It's certainly less pain than a lifetime of trimming that nail or an accident.
I work in a grooming salon and I can say fully that many dogs come in with their dewclaws curling around completely back into the flesh of the toe. These claws are not ground down while walking like the rest of the nails, so they just keep growing and many irresponsible pet owners let it go unchecked.
Though this looks painful as a pup, it saves a lot of grief later on in life.
I have a Alaskan Malamute/eastern wolf mix, and I live in South Florida, but last summer I was on my family's farm in Alabama visiting. While playing in a creak in a wooded area my dog snagged his dewclaw when he fell threw a fallen rotten tree. She was bleeding and crying, and it cost me 500 bucks to have the vet to operate and patch her up, not to mention she walked with a limp for months. After that, my opinion changed, if you have a working dog, get their dewclaw removed.
Actually, this procedure is done to avoid the nails being ripped out; most specifically ripped out in a non-sterile, non-surgical environment where blood loss and shock alone is enough to kill or maim the dog.
This procedure was sterile, safe, and conducted by a veterinary surgeon. No "ripping" involved.
I don't suppose there's a good study, mostly because who would pay for it? It's not super rare, as I've actually seen it happen twice during dog sport events, and heard many more stories/seen dogs already bandaged up.
I don't believe that, say, tail docking, is worth it for my dogs, but one of the puppies I bred is now without her tail because it was amputated in an accident on the cattle farm she lives/works on.
Accidents happen and they can be deadly, which makes this worth considering.
Anesthesia isn't without risk, especially in puppies that are so small. There's no magic drug that works for humans, let alone animals, and when you have a liver that is so tiny, there's little room between too little to be effective and so much that it's toxic.
No one wants to cause pain, but I don't feel, like some, that it need be avoided at all costs. Trading a little pain now vs. a lot of pain later is a common trade off. Just ask your dentist, or your pediatrician, or any athlete.
My momma dog came running because of the screaming of this pup. Looked at me "what the hell are you doing to that baby!" Cruel, tortuous frivolous mutilation. Illegal in Europe, where they are much smarter than we are. "Working dogs" rarely tear dews. Ridiculous
Do you happen to have a source on that "illegal in Europe" statement? Even the source-happy wikipedia lacks any link to legislation or even a news article that discusses dewclaw legislation. Tail docking and ear cropping aren't the same.
Let me make some things clear. The owner is not doing this for cosmetic reasons. These dogs will actually work for a living, and they can tear their dewclaws. And it will hurt them more as adults than as puppies if that happens. However, it's not a 100 percent necessary procedure, but people should respect the owner's choice in making it It is not mutilation. I personally don't do it, but I respect the right to do it. It causes no lasting trauma to the dog at all.
I work my goldens, but I don't remove their dewclaws for a very simple reason. They have tiny dewclaws that lie very close to the leg. Traditionally, they do remove working golden dewclaws, and it's hard to buy one that doesn't have them removed. But in some Lab lines, some pointer, HPR and Lab lines, you have to remove them. Because they are just too loose and large.
Hind dewclaws should always be removed, unless it's one of those breeds that has to have them for its breed standard.
Oh my. Obviously the little thing is in a lot of pain but just like little human babies, when they get their shots, they don't know where the pain is coming from but they certainly can feel the sting of the injection. If I wanted to get my dog's dewclaws removed, I would not do it like this although many people say this si the best way & most humane.
I think the most humane way to do anything even declawing or docking tail, I would knock the fella out 1st & then do it while it's sleeping not when it's fully conscious. I think I would cry holding my little pup & just let the procedure go on whilst it screaming in horrible pain.
But I believe removing the dew claw is very important especially if the dog is doing Agility however, I don't believe in doing it just to make the dog's legs look neater & straighter for show.
If it's unnecessary for the dog to through such trauma just because we want to make them look good, then I think it's just all wrong. To be honest with you, it's not wrong to remove their dewclaws or docking their tails BUT doing it while their conscious & because they're little & their eyes are closed & they can't struggle & escape, then I think it's just horrible. Phew! My heart was beating so hard watching the whole thing. Hehe! How's the little fella now? I bet he's all grown up.
Oh yeah I forgot to say that I will do these procedures(if there's a need for my dog's tail or dew claws to be removed) I will wait till it's older & when it's okay for the vet to inject in anesthetic to knock it out. Sure my dog will feel the pain after it wakes up but at least they didn't go through so much pain while they're conscious. :)
This wasn't done for a dog show / beauty pageant, nor to make the dog look good. Although some people DO have this done for that reason, and some show dogs NEED to have it done. That's not the case with the Border Collies.
I did this because I've seen the dew claws torn twice, once on a working BC during a herding competition, and another on an agility BC. It was pretty horrifying.
Both of these dog's parents still have their dewclaws and I am not planning on having those removed.
Anesthesia carries the very real risk of killing an animal that small and that young. Even topical numbing agents can be poisonous and are easy to overdose.
Not worth the risk, in my opinion. Death is a clearly worse fate than this.
And I wouldn't call this "horrible" pain. You've clearly never heard puppies scream when they're cold and hungry. Like human babies, they are loud to get attention because they are helpless.
They fell back asleep almost instantly after they were put down again.
For the parents, both who still have their dewclaws, I have to tape them down against the leg for agility. The male especially, where the dewclaws are not well formed nails and stick out. The nails also split and are not easy to trim/grind.
I don't believe it's worth putting him under just for this, and it is a much more complicated surgery when they are older, as blood flow to the nailbed is more significant and the vessels need to be tied off, etc. Thus the advantage to having it done young.
The greatest inhumanity we as a society carry out on our animals has nothing to do with a minute of discomfort while they are puppies. Nor do I think this is particularly problematic. It's nothing like ear cutting or tail docking, and it's clearly less pain than desexing.
There's not a dog in the world who has been desexed that suffered less than one minute. The pain and soreness from that proceedure can last for days, regadless of pain meds.
watching this is not helping people make an informed decision,,,as this is not the 'norm',,this would put people off having it done if anything.....poor lil bastard
This is done by a licensed vet with years of experience, and the results were excellent. I'd prefer a single suture and a clean cut to the "pinch and flick" method that is prone to open up and/or cause a build up of scar tissue (crushed tissue versus cleanly cut tissue.
I considered that option given that the pups were 2 and 3 days (a better time) over a weekend, but decided against it after seeing the results from the hemostat method and hearing the complications from my fellow breeders.
I have seen LOADS of dews removed,,all by three days,,,,it is legal for a lay person to removed them,,as long as the eyes are NOT open...so what is happening here is totally 'legal',,but the 'vet' doing it is obviously not that experienced as they would of all be off within seconds,,,no stitching atall,,,,it looks to me at the end that the dog is 'gasping' what some new born pups do...not breathing properly,,,,he looks in shock to me
The pups at 4 days are significantly larger than they are at 0 or 1 day when most breeders do it themselves. I don't believe the crush and flick method would be advisable on a pup this large.
And the vet's technique is excellent. A clean cut, full removal of the nail tissue, and a nice tight suture. And the best part, no complications. The local breeders I know all have horror stories of home jobs gone wrong.
it takes seconds to do de claw removal,,,I would be ashamed of putting this up,,,just look at the other removals on you tube,,,,,should of had pain relief beforehand,,and whats with the stitches???? sad
Thanks for your point of view. The entire reason I posted the video was to discuss the dewclaw removal procedure and ask the basic question of if it is worth the supposed benefits.
The discussion link is posted in the video description.
Along with ear cropping and tail docking, this is a very common procedure, and if people want to make an educated decision, they should see what actually happens.
I may not have the procedure done on my next litter, but I still can't shake the vivid memory of seeing a dog tear a dew claw during an agility match and another dog on a grate at the stock show.
The dog at the stock show went into shock from the blood loss and the one at the agility comp was out of commission for over a year.
And frankly, the amount of pain inflicted on my dogs who still have their dew claws from the nail trimming alone easily surpasses the two minutes of pain in the video.
For the record, removing the dew claws are suppose to be painless....the reason that this puppy feels it is because the breeder failed to do it sooner....now the poor thing is basically having it's bones crushed and digit cut off. It is cruel to do it at this age and if it is being done after the puppy is 48 hours old, it should be numbed...FURTHER, if it were being done RIGHT, stitches would not be required. Dumbass!
(4) You can take the method up with the Vet community. There were no complications with the suture and I don't believe the sutures added any additional pain.
(5) The issue of pain mitigation in animals and in the standard operating procedures of Vets is an issue that is currently in flux. Perhaps reflection on this video (a rather short lived pain response) will spur a re-examination of the SOP with dogs this age.
The breeder said they are so young they don't feel any pain.......well, take a look you bunch of assholes, this little guy is screaming his tiny lungs out and you just say that it's a cruel world......what a crock. I'll never understand this kind of stupidity.
I never said the puppy didn't feel any pain. And it's quite possible that the breeder you're talking about performs the procedure closer to the birth.
The other dewclaw video has a puppy that appears to be only hours old.
If your highest goal is to cause no pain, then this procedure is obviously out. But so is nearly every other procedure you'd perform on a dog, including shots and nail trimmings and de-sexing, etc.
Routine shots are painless, my dog gets allergy shots bi-monthly and loves that spoonful of peanut butter.....totally oblivious to the shot, also, nail trimming shouldn't be painful. Use a proper tool and train your dog to lie still and it's just an evening in front of the TV.
Of course any surgery (neutering, spaying) is going to cause some discomfort, that's why they are sedated...your comments/rebuttal didn't convince me one bit.
OMFG WTF why are you declawing a DOG and for the love of god while its not even sedated this is so terrible and inhumane. My dog is even looking at this video like somethings WRONG.
Removing dewclaws is not "declawing." It has little in common with the procedure in cats that you are referring to.
There is a link to a discussion of this procedure in the video description that includes why it is commonly done.
With a puppy this small, sedation is not necessarily humane (high risk of complications like death), and if pain is your metric then de-sexing your animal is guaranteed to cause significantly more pain, even with drugs. Is that humane?
You disgust me, that dog is obviously in a great deal of pain and you continue to torture it. How would you like to be held down while someone cuts your fingers off. People like you shouldn't be allowed animals.
@astraean : and people like you shouldn't be allowed to have animals- by the way...
I have two active sighthounds- both racing and coursing and NONE had ever any injuries with their dewclaws
But I'm sure that's just a coincidence- also that in most European countries the removal of this claws are against the animal welfare act. But sorry- i forgott! I shouldn't be allowed an opinion Mr. Know-it-all
@Culannsnewcomer WHACKO! I would not use Europe for any analogies. Who cares. This does not harm them and we require more to be done to human babies. Wake up people, animals do not cry tears and do not think like us. Relax all you so called animal lovers who would save an animal before a human being.
You people are crazy! This is not cruel. Except for the suturing. Not needed. A septic stick is all that would be necessary. But all you whackos below need to get a life. Cut it off, clean it with antiseptic and septic stick to stop bleeding and done in 30 seconds. Puppy goes to nurse and in 2 minutes will not remember anything. Do it in 3-5 days. Easy and NOT CRUEL. We do worse to human babies all in the name of good health.
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Oh yeah. This is good. I love it. Especially listening to the puppy's scream. I wish I am the one who is doing the declaw, I would declaw more deeply. Nice screaming puppy.
duncry79 3 days ago
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Oh yeah. This is good. I love it. Especially listening to the puppy's scream. I wish I am the one who is doing the declaw, I would declaw more deeply. Nice screaming puppy.
duncry79 3 days ago
Oh yeah. This is good. I love it. Especially listening to the puppy's scream. I wish I am the one who is doing the declaw, I would declaw more deeply. Nice screaming puppy.
duncry79 3 days ago
YO, WTF DID ANYONE READ???? "No anesthetic was used--this wasn't done to be cruel or cheap--because the potential complications of drugging such a small animal are significant."
So Before getting mad. READ FIRST. The Dog WAS SMALL e___o to Be handling that kind of drug e____e!!
barbiebunny14 3 days ago
Why do you do something like that to a little puppy? Absolute no sense in it! Yes, the claw itself (not the entire "thumb") can be ripped off sometimes, but that is not very often and heals in short time. The thumb itself... very rare!
To cut off the entire thumb (yes, this is the entire thumb) is EXTREMELY painful, try to cut off your own thumb with a scissor, and you know how it feels!
If I get this vet in my hands, I would make him suffer the same procedure! and cut off other things also!
omosesXXX 6 days ago
this is like smaking a baby in the face multple times
msanimalheart 1 week ago
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showoff07 1 week ago
Omg. I would sue thiz vet!
dreamer31life 2 weeks ago
Why didn't they give him something for pain BEFORE they started the procedure????!!!!! This is disturbing!!
Doreen075 2 weeks ago
This poor dog. WTF is wrong with you? Why do you do this to a puppy? This brought tears to my eyes. Obviously it was incredibly painful. It is like cutting off the thumb of a newborn! You shouldn't be allowed to have animals!
MsLabMom 1 month ago
FUCK the one who declawed the dog's paw and declawing is only for CATS!!! Stop it you asshole
Doglover6230 1 month ago
4 years later a really angry and massive Maximus appears in the doctor's house from the windows.
HolyBomb 1 month ago
what. the. fuck. poor baby :(
idolamanda527 1 month ago
Why? Why? Why? This is just cruel. Maybe 2% of dogs are used for hunting so this is almost completely useless. So sad
techshowslam 1 month ago
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Hudson2012 1 month ago
@Hudson2012 Wha! Wha! quit crying over something that is not harmful.
SAVAGER0ACH 2 days ago
Omg it looked so painful for him! Aww that was so sad
Lp062607 1 month ago
wtf declaw my dog so it wont scratch stupid dumb retard bitch
sires5150 2 months ago
My Lab's breeders get the dew claws removed because they breed for hunting and most dew claw accidents are from dogs being in the brush and clipping their dew claws on sticks/logs/etc.. I would prefer that she would have her dew claws, as i do find them necessary, but i have seen a friend's dog have a bad accident, having to remove both dew claws with a long recovery. I'd prefer to have this done, than an accident.
Jal1515 2 months ago
OMG, i wonder how he must feel .. why did they not apply anesthesia ?? Can you like not hear him cry ?!
Coolkid25924 2 months ago
This is pretty standard and each animal reacts differently. Not all are as dramatic as this puppy. Getting these removed so young saves them from having to do this when an accident happens with an adult dog. If they are adult, they need the anesthesia just to fix the wound. Puppies are so young the "trauma" will not affect them. There are worse animal practices that require more attention than this simple procedure: dog/cock fighting for ex.
jocw101087 3 months ago
@jocw101087 AMEN! Are you the only sane person on here. I hate to repeat it but not only do we do more to animals but also human babies. We sterilize animals (which i agree with) but that cause a helluva lot more pain than this. I just would not suture and use a septic stick. Thanks
SAVAGER0ACH 2 days ago
I am schock with this images, how can someone do so many harm to a litle baby?? Are you guys stupid or what? Isn t there anything to put babu«y to sleep. Hope one day someone do to you a cirurgury without drugs. Idiots
rotaxenos 5 months ago
@rotaxenos In North America they routinely cut baby boys foreskins off when they have just been born, they use no anaesthesia - this is no joke! You can google it, and you can see video on here of them doing it and the little baby screaming in agony. Alot of fucked up things happen in the USA. So this video does not surprise me one bit.
tool2342 5 months ago
haw does this help the dog just asking
BHFanticos2 6 months ago
@BHFanticos2 some dogs are really active, they'll run into places as an ADULT and rip it off by getting it caught on a tree or something, IT WILL HURT like hell if that happens, rather him getting removed now because it is less painful and less bloody. It helps us by just one less nail to cut, that's what i always thought. xD
justxboredx3 6 months ago
These vets are very calloused. Detached from the dogs pain for the sake of saving a buck on putting the dog to sleep.
1tothemorning 8 months ago
at this age the dog's bones have not yet ossified, making the removal procedure easily done without asesthesia. It looks cruel, but think about it. I'm sure the human babies who get their ears peirced at only days old scream and cry as well. This is not animal cruelty. By removing the dew claws they are preventing injuries at an older age (such as what just happened to my 2 year old dog, her dew claw got completely ripped off while playing at the park.)
tinyb0nes 9 months ago
@tinyb0nes Thank you for putting a legitimate and educated comment on here. Yea, it seems horrible, but that puppy will cry just as loud when you put it in a kennel for the night so it doesn't chew up the house and go to the bathroom everywhere. It still goes in the kennel though. The dew claw removal is standard and gets done when they are so young, it has no effect on their social development. Not abusive.
jocw101087 3 months ago
This is fucking gay at least put him to sleep
kiddyqueen11 9 months ago
This is just disgusting and horrible! How would you idiots feel if you were awake while someone just clipped off the top of you're fingers! Watching this makes me cry! It's horrible! How can us humans honestly do stupid things like this? We were born with nails, they were born with claws. You shouldn't just go and remove them! If you don't like it, then don't have an animal in the first place... :(
WantedForLove0152 10 months ago
u should have had that puppy put to sleep so she wont feel the pain
DARKMAMAS 10 months ago
that is 100% animal cruelty
malenasucre 11 months ago
Are you sure that the puppy didn't feel any pain after the surgery?? You can't say that!! Duh?? It's cruelty to animals!!
amgirl333 1 year ago
CRUEL CRUEL WORLD!!!!! FUCK YOU MONEY HUNGRY BITCH....GO TO MED SCHOOLI\
jakebordes 1 year ago
thats a mongoss
wham13456 1 year ago
Gosh what a polava, my old mentor would have this done in seconds, hence why i always turn to my breeder first, vet second. this was like a surgery.
i would sooner leave my pups claws on then use a vet poor puppy
MAISIEMOLLY1 1 year ago
that is so sad stop doing that you freaking dummies and im on 11 years
DaneciaLadson2010 1 year ago
Who in ther right mind can stand to put an animal in that much pain?
1957GMA 1 year ago
@1957GMA A caring veterinarian and a loving owner.
astraean 1 year ago
@astraean a caring vet would say "No I wont do this, your dog has these claws for a reason" and a loving owner would think "I'll take my dog as he/she is, becouse I love her"
keep your lame excuses, dog are not used for hunting and work anymore.
LunaTemari 1 year ago
@LunaTemari I'll leave it up to you to call 100 vets and ask how many of them would refuse to do this procedure on principle. Then I'll ask you to call 100 dog groomers and ask them to quantify the pain and discomfort of having to fix ingrown and overgrown dewclaws.
I'm sure that over the lifetime of the dog I've saved it HOURS of pain and discomfort from trimming those claws versus a minute of pain as a puppy.
astraean 1 year ago
@astraean US vets are worthless, so I realy dont need to ask them.. I could talk to a drunk homeless guy and it'd be the same thing.
I've had quite a few dogs, all active dogs, no ripped dew claws and clipping them is done in 3 seconds.
only exception would be for hunting dogs or poor bred dogs of wich the dew claw is not attached to the bone.. otherwise its just pure lazyness of the owner.
LunaTemari 1 year ago
@LunaTemari Why would you clip their nails at all if you don't believe in preventing more pain later with a little pain now? Isn't the whole point of cutting their nails to prevent problems from happening?
I know that with my dogs, I have caused MUCH more nail pain on my dogs who have their dewclaws than was caused via the surgery on the ones who don't. One short cut as an adult and there is easily more pain, longer, more blood, and more chance of infection than the puppy procedure.
astraean 1 year ago
@astraean I'm not sure in what way you clip a dogs nails but mine have had no blood involved :\ a small clip while they are laying down on the couch and done, no pain involved. they dont even raise their head, and I dont even do it on a regular basis.
some dogs like my mallies do use their dew claw to climb the rocks or the cut down tree's that we have in the forrest here so they arent completely useless in my point of view
I find the way its removed inhumane.
LunaTemari 1 year ago
@astraean
Oh ok, got it. To prevent painful injuries in the future.
That's why the very all other countries where this procedure is considered as illegal are retarded - because they are not caring for the animals.
Yeah.
And you guys in the US are also amputating the toes and fingers of your newborn children because they may break or cut them when they are older which is way more painful and bloody as the little surgery done when the kids were babies.
REALLY SMART IDEAS
neferibi 1 year ago
@neferibi Actually, amputating infant flesh is the most common surgical procedure carried out in the USA. It's called circumcision. While it's a different issue, I'm decidedly against infant circumcision. That's a choice an adult should make.
The dewclaw issue is rather overblown. It's not a thumb, it has no function, it's vestigial. But likewise, the risk of injury is low if the dewclaw is tight and well formed. For me, it's worth it to avoid having to trim the nail alone, no other reason.
astraean 1 year ago
to finish my statements:
"The puppy clearly feels pain during the procedure, but is quiet immediately afterwards and none of the puppies made any indication of lingering pain or discomfort."
IF anyone would put a human (adult or child) being through that kind of treatment the puppies are going through, the human would also feel pain and trying to get out of the situation while screaming - to become silent as soon as it's over.
It's a normal reaction in such situations and it's called SHOCK!
neferibi 1 year ago
@neferibi "Shock" has a medical definition, is life threatening, and no, none of these puppies was in shock. Shock: "bodily collapse or near collapse caused by inadequate oxygen delivery to the cells; characterized by reduced cardiac output and rapid heartbeat and circulatory insufficiency and pallor."
Don't be so sensationalist.
astraean 1 year ago
@astraean
seems as if the wise guy requires a knowledge boost.
The every day language term "shock" also refers to acute stress reactions:
I wonder what you will do if e.g. mandarin talking persons keep you in custody and starts cutting off parts of your body. He does to prevent you from future injuries.
You will be happy, eh?
I just hope that ppl like you and the vet will be renicarnated as pets facing equal owners and vets as the poor puppies.
neferibi 1 year ago
@neferibi Although no "mandarin talking persons" were involved, I've had parts of my body cut off to prevent future injuries. I've had ingrown toenails cut off and the tissue burned with acid, I've had tonsils removed from my throat, I've had wisdom teeth and jaw bone removed to keep the rest of my mouth healthy, I've had gum surgery and I've had moles removed all to prevent future injury. Some of these were done as a child where adults made a weighted choice for me.
astraean 1 year ago
@astraean
I assume that has been done without anesthesia.
And no pain medication afterward, eh?
At least for those surgeries which have been done when you have been a child.
And you would recommend that for all children who are pushed into preventive surgery - since the risks of anesthesia is far to high a risk.
As I said, I hope ppl like you and the vet are reincarnated as pets facing the same situations as the animals in your care.
neferibi 1 year ago
@LunaTemari You're worthless. I'd like to see you even get your prerequisites done for vet school... oh, sorry! Was that too big of a word for you?
DemRozLie 1 year ago
@DemRozLie depends on what one's goal is :) not everyone wants to become a vet.. or do you think that's the only job avaible? realy? haha.
LunaTemari 1 year ago
@astraean Would you consider using an experienced breeder to remobve your puppies dews?? i have bred 6 litters to date and to me this is way too long a procedure, honestly a breeder with solid experience would be able to do this in seconds praticly pain free with no blood or stitching, i do think that vets make too much of it.
And hey, i have never been charged for my mentor to do this, stud fee is all inclusive, advice, everything
Just a thought
MAISIEMOLLY1 1 year ago
@MAISIEMOLLY1 Of course I would consider having an experienced breeder remove the dew claws. You can see other videos here of breeders doing this at home days earlier and the pups don't appear to even wake up. I was happy with the results here, we had no problems and I prefer a non-dewed dog. But I see no reason to not have the procedure done days earlier. In this case, there was a blizzard and this was the first opportunity.
ChristopherLandauer 1 year ago
@ChristopherLandauer Oh i see, i diddnt read it properly, and your right that would explain the more noise he is makeing, i assume they were done after 5days old? after then the nearve/blood supply starts to form hence why they will feel pain from as you probably know.but then again i am in the UK and i am pretty sure dew claw removal will soon be made illegal, if only they could take into account the injuries my poor Lurcher had from ripping hers off, did this by running on sand!!!
MAISIEMOLLY1 1 year ago
@astraean
A caring veterinarian would say the following.
Dear mr. Dog/Cat owner. If you feel uncomfortable of a fully clawed pet, then please go to the local pet shelter and find an already declawed pet there and we will find your current pet a new home.
A caring vet would forego the 1000 easy earned dollars for the sake of the pet's health.
A not caring vet would recommend the procedure because it's 1000 bucks easy earned, and many more bucks later when curing declawing-sideeffects.
neferibi 1 year ago
@neferibi Removing the dewclaws in a dog is not the same as de-clawing a cat. Conflating the two is not helpful or informative. Nor is conflating pet adoption with ownership and breeding.
And no one ever earned $1,000 to remove a dog's dewclaws. Making up garbage like that is, likewise, neither helpful nor informative.
astraean 1 year ago
let me cut your nails out
jamsyjo 1 year ago
@jamsyjo Most people with an extra digit on their hand or foot do have them removed. And, nail resection is also a standard surgery for people with ingrown nails, I've had it done myself. I accepted the pain of the surgery to prevent more harm later, as is the case here.
Pain isn't the worst thing in life, and a this isn't a pointless or gratuitous procedure. Some might chose not do have it done as is their right, but this is done out of responsible care for the animal.
astraean 1 year ago
They can't anesthetize because the medication would be more harmful to the puppy than the actual procedure.
glenn212now 1 year ago
this is so messed up, poor puppy
SlanginRocksNonstop 1 year ago
I've had a few prob with dewclaws myself, my dogsabout 15 years old.
Alot better to get them taken out, i should imagine it's painfull to be ripped out being snagged on something.
Pretzal666 1 year ago
ok honestly people whi think this is cruel must not know much about dogs. first of all, its a border collie which means it is a hyper active dog. you remove the dewclaws so they dont get caught on the carpet or caught when theyre outside. it is done when they are young because they dont remember the pain and it heals much faster. imagine if this dog had his dew claws and caught one of them on something and ripped it off. thats like you having your pinky ripped off. thats why it needs done.
JDB00009 2 years ago
Grow up people it is far less painful then getting a baby getting a circumcision but we don't have people pushing to outlaw that!
RogueGWP00 2 years ago
The least cruel thing would be to anesthetize the area. The point is, the puppy was in pain at having his claws cut off.
mlabcxk 2 years ago
@mlabcxk If only it were so easy to dose such a small creature in a manner that would not lead to greater harm or death. Injecting a narcotic still causes the puppy pain from the shot. But you seriously risk over-dose and other complications. Drugs aren't magic or no-risk.
This puppy was quiet and calm mere seconds after the procedure was done. I don't think that is an extraordinary amount of pain. It's certainly less pain than a lifetime of trimming that nail or an accident.
astraean 1 year ago
I work in a grooming salon and I can say fully that many dogs come in with their dewclaws curling around completely back into the flesh of the toe. These claws are not ground down while walking like the rest of the nails, so they just keep growing and many irresponsible pet owners let it go unchecked.
Though this looks painful as a pup, it saves a lot of grief later on in life.
fluffykat1 2 years ago
I have a Alaskan Malamute/eastern wolf mix, and I live in South Florida, but last summer I was on my family's farm in Alabama visiting. While playing in a creak in a wooded area my dog snagged his dewclaw when he fell threw a fallen rotten tree. She was bleeding and crying, and it cost me 500 bucks to have the vet to operate and patch her up, not to mention she walked with a limp for months. After that, my opinion changed, if you have a working dog, get their dewclaw removed.
EveryDaysAHolleyDay 2 years ago
i dont think these dogs even remember this
do you remember your anything from when you were 1 year old?
so i think this is the best time to do this, for the puppys future benefit
abi999 2 years ago
Ouch! Poor little puppy... Could'nt they give him something that he doesn't feel the pain?
Slowhand1981 2 years ago
maximum?
this is crazy!
rpblcan 2 years ago
Why didnt they give the puppy a local numbing shot...I almost threw up listening and watching this...poor baby...
SharaTayla 2 years ago
its like saying ripping baby p's nails out was ok!!
gf4life 2 years ago
Actually, this procedure is done to avoid the nails being ripped out; most specifically ripped out in a non-sterile, non-surgical environment where blood loss and shock alone is enough to kill or maim the dog.
This procedure was sterile, safe, and conducted by a veterinary surgeon. No "ripping" involved.
astraean 2 years ago
@gf4life they have no use AT ALL
MonteyCarlo92081 1 year ago
I don't suppose there's a good study, mostly because who would pay for it? It's not super rare, as I've actually seen it happen twice during dog sport events, and heard many more stories/seen dogs already bandaged up.
I don't believe that, say, tail docking, is worth it for my dogs, but one of the puppies I bred is now without her tail because it was amputated in an accident on the cattle farm she lives/works on.
Accidents happen and they can be deadly, which makes this worth considering.
astraean 2 years ago
Anesthesia isn't without risk, especially in puppies that are so small. There's no magic drug that works for humans, let alone animals, and when you have a liver that is so tiny, there's little room between too little to be effective and so much that it's toxic.
No one wants to cause pain, but I don't feel, like some, that it need be avoided at all costs. Trading a little pain now vs. a lot of pain later is a common trade off. Just ask your dentist, or your pediatrician, or any athlete.
astraean 2 years ago
My momma dog came running because of the screaming of this pup. Looked at me "what the hell are you doing to that baby!" Cruel, tortuous frivolous mutilation. Illegal in Europe, where they are much smarter than we are. "Working dogs" rarely tear dews. Ridiculous
LuckyLakho 2 years ago
Do you happen to have a source on that "illegal in Europe" statement? Even the source-happy wikipedia lacks any link to legislation or even a news article that discusses dewclaw legislation. Tail docking and ear cropping aren't the same.
astraean 2 years ago
cant u put him to sleep or something? for a short while so it wont hurt him as much????
lizztheshizz1994 2 years ago
Let me make some things clear. The owner is not doing this for cosmetic reasons. These dogs will actually work for a living, and they can tear their dewclaws. And it will hurt them more as adults than as puppies if that happens. However, it's not a 100 percent necessary procedure, but people should respect the owner's choice in making it It is not mutilation. I personally don't do it, but I respect the right to do it. It causes no lasting trauma to the dog at all.
Retrieverman1 3 years ago
I completely agree. I hunt my dogs and have seen dogs severly injured from catching dewclaws.
Hanny927 2 years ago
I work my goldens, but I don't remove their dewclaws for a very simple reason. They have tiny dewclaws that lie very close to the leg. Traditionally, they do remove working golden dewclaws, and it's hard to buy one that doesn't have them removed. But in some Lab lines, some pointer, HPR and Lab lines, you have to remove them. Because they are just too loose and large.
Hind dewclaws should always be removed, unless it's one of those breeds that has to have them for its breed standard.
Retrieverman1 2 years ago
Yea, I've seen a few dogs catch those dew claws ... OUCH! It's best to remove them when they're puppies.
jaylinII 2 years ago
If you do it, do it as neonates. It's a much bigger deal with an already grown or half-grown dogs.
Retrieverman1 2 years ago
Oh my. Obviously the little thing is in a lot of pain but just like little human babies, when they get their shots, they don't know where the pain is coming from but they certainly can feel the sting of the injection. If I wanted to get my dog's dewclaws removed, I would not do it like this although many people say this si the best way & most humane.
AmberFaithChloe 3 years ago
I think the most humane way to do anything even declawing or docking tail, I would knock the fella out 1st & then do it while it's sleeping not when it's fully conscious. I think I would cry holding my little pup & just let the procedure go on whilst it screaming in horrible pain.
But I believe removing the dew claw is very important especially if the dog is doing Agility however, I don't believe in doing it just to make the dog's legs look neater & straighter for show.
AmberFaithChloe 3 years ago
If it's unnecessary for the dog to through such trauma just because we want to make them look good, then I think it's just all wrong. To be honest with you, it's not wrong to remove their dewclaws or docking their tails BUT doing it while their conscious & because they're little & their eyes are closed & they can't struggle & escape, then I think it's just horrible. Phew! My heart was beating so hard watching the whole thing. Hehe! How's the little fella now? I bet he's all grown up.
AmberFaithChloe 3 years ago
Oh yeah I forgot to say that I will do these procedures(if there's a need for my dog's tail or dew claws to be removed) I will wait till it's older & when it's okay for the vet to inject in anesthetic to knock it out. Sure my dog will feel the pain after it wakes up but at least they didn't go through so much pain while they're conscious. :)
AmberFaithChloe 3 years ago
This wasn't done for a dog show / beauty pageant, nor to make the dog look good. Although some people DO have this done for that reason, and some show dogs NEED to have it done. That's not the case with the Border Collies.
I did this because I've seen the dew claws torn twice, once on a working BC during a herding competition, and another on an agility BC. It was pretty horrifying.
Both of these dog's parents still have their dewclaws and I am not planning on having those removed.
astraean 3 years ago
Anesthesia carries the very real risk of killing an animal that small and that young. Even topical numbing agents can be poisonous and are easy to overdose.
Not worth the risk, in my opinion. Death is a clearly worse fate than this.
And I wouldn't call this "horrible" pain. You've clearly never heard puppies scream when they're cold and hungry. Like human babies, they are loud to get attention because they are helpless.
They fell back asleep almost instantly after they were put down again.
astraean 3 years ago
For the parents, both who still have their dewclaws, I have to tape them down against the leg for agility. The male especially, where the dewclaws are not well formed nails and stick out. The nails also split and are not easy to trim/grind.
I don't believe it's worth putting him under just for this, and it is a much more complicated surgery when they are older, as blood flow to the nailbed is more significant and the vessels need to be tied off, etc. Thus the advantage to having it done young.
astraean 3 years ago
The greatest inhumanity we as a society carry out on our animals has nothing to do with a minute of discomfort while they are puppies. Nor do I think this is particularly problematic. It's nothing like ear cutting or tail docking, and it's clearly less pain than desexing.
There's not a dog in the world who has been desexed that suffered less than one minute. The pain and soreness from that proceedure can last for days, regadless of pain meds.
astraean 3 years ago
watching this is not helping people make an informed decision,,,as this is not the 'norm',,this would put people off having it done if anything.....poor lil bastard
skinnyribs31 3 years ago
This is done by a licensed vet with years of experience, and the results were excellent. I'd prefer a single suture and a clean cut to the "pinch and flick" method that is prone to open up and/or cause a build up of scar tissue (crushed tissue versus cleanly cut tissue.
I considered that option given that the pups were 2 and 3 days (a better time) over a weekend, but decided against it after seeing the results from the hemostat method and hearing the complications from my fellow breeders.
astraean 3 years ago
I have seen LOADS of dews removed,,all by three days,,,,it is legal for a lay person to removed them,,as long as the eyes are NOT open...so what is happening here is totally 'legal',,but the 'vet' doing it is obviously not that experienced as they would of all be off within seconds,,,no stitching atall,,,,it looks to me at the end that the dog is 'gasping' what some new born pups do...not breathing properly,,,,he looks in shock to me
skinnyribs31 3 years ago
The pups at 4 days are significantly larger than they are at 0 or 1 day when most breeders do it themselves. I don't believe the crush and flick method would be advisable on a pup this large.
And the vet's technique is excellent. A clean cut, full removal of the nail tissue, and a nice tight suture. And the best part, no complications. The local breeders I know all have horror stories of home jobs gone wrong.
astraean 3 years ago
it takes seconds to do de claw removal,,,I would be ashamed of putting this up,,,just look at the other removals on you tube,,,,,should of had pain relief beforehand,,and whats with the stitches???? sad
skinnyribs31 3 years ago
Thanks for your point of view. The entire reason I posted the video was to discuss the dewclaw removal procedure and ask the basic question of if it is worth the supposed benefits.
The discussion link is posted in the video description.
Along with ear cropping and tail docking, this is a very common procedure, and if people want to make an educated decision, they should see what actually happens.
astraean 3 years ago
I never remove front dewclaws.
Retrieverman1 3 years ago
I may not have the procedure done on my next litter, but I still can't shake the vivid memory of seeing a dog tear a dew claw during an agility match and another dog on a grate at the stock show.
The dog at the stock show went into shock from the blood loss and the one at the agility comp was out of commission for over a year.
And frankly, the amount of pain inflicted on my dogs who still have their dew claws from the nail trimming alone easily surpasses the two minutes of pain in the video.
astraean 3 years ago
Rear dewclaws-- yes, cut them off, unless it's one of those breeds that has to have them-- Beauceron, Briard, Pyr, etc.
My breed doesn't have rear dewclaws. If a golden has rear dewclaws, you know it's a mix.
Most hunters remove all dewclaws; however, in goldens the front dewclaws are tiny and lie very close to the leg.
Dewclaw removal, though, is no worse than circumcision.
Hind dewclaws remind me of an ad hoc appendage that is very easy to tear.
Retrieverman1 3 years ago
For the record, removing the dew claws are suppose to be painless....the reason that this puppy feels it is because the breeder failed to do it sooner....now the poor thing is basically having it's bones crushed and digit cut off. It is cruel to do it at this age and if it is being done after the puppy is 48 hours old, it should be numbed...FURTHER, if it were being done RIGHT, stitches would not be required. Dumbass!
brandireneemoore 3 years ago
(1) As explained in the description, the dewclaws were not taken off sooner because of a blizzard and the weekend.
(2) No bones were crushed, the dewclaws are vestigial and there is just skin attaching them to the rest of the foot.
(3) The issue of timing and of numbing agents is valid. Drugs, especially with such a small puppy, are not without their own dangers.
astraean 3 years ago
(4) You can take the method up with the Vet community. There were no complications with the suture and I don't believe the sutures added any additional pain.
(5) The issue of pain mitigation in animals and in the standard operating procedures of Vets is an issue that is currently in flux. Perhaps reflection on this video (a rather short lived pain response) will spur a re-examination of the SOP with dogs this age.
astraean 3 years ago
omgg did u see how wide and open hisz mouth was the first time he took it outt ... i wanna cry 4 thaa damn dog myyselff , ='[ poor fckinn puppyyyyy
BaYbEhh2flii 3 years ago
The breeder said they are so young they don't feel any pain.......well, take a look you bunch of assholes, this little guy is screaming his tiny lungs out and you just say that it's a cruel world......what a crock. I'll never understand this kind of stupidity.
bigfatpikle 3 years ago
I never said the puppy didn't feel any pain. And it's quite possible that the breeder you're talking about performs the procedure closer to the birth.
The other dewclaw video has a puppy that appears to be only hours old.
If your highest goal is to cause no pain, then this procedure is obviously out. But so is nearly every other procedure you'd perform on a dog, including shots and nail trimmings and de-sexing, etc.
astraean 3 years ago
Routine shots are painless, my dog gets allergy shots bi-monthly and loves that spoonful of peanut butter.....totally oblivious to the shot, also, nail trimming shouldn't be painful. Use a proper tool and train your dog to lie still and it's just an evening in front of the TV.
Of course any surgery (neutering, spaying) is going to cause some discomfort, that's why they are sedated...your comments/rebuttal didn't convince me one bit.
bigfatpikle 3 years ago
OMFG WTF why are you declawing a DOG and for the love of god while its not even sedated this is so terrible and inhumane. My dog is even looking at this video like somethings WRONG.
fallenstarx3 3 years ago
Removing dewclaws is not "declawing." It has little in common with the procedure in cats that you are referring to.
There is a link to a discussion of this procedure in the video description that includes why it is commonly done.
With a puppy this small, sedation is not necessarily humane (high risk of complications like death), and if pain is your metric then de-sexing your animal is guaranteed to cause significantly more pain, even with drugs. Is that humane?
astraean 3 years ago
You disgust me, that dog is obviously in a great deal of pain and you continue to torture it. How would you like to be held down while someone cuts your fingers off. People like you shouldn't be allowed animals.
CatherineAnn84 3 years ago
You disgust me for being ignorant and missing the entire reason for this video.
Try reading the description. And no one cut off this puppy's "fingers."
People like you shouldn't be allowed opinions, or computers.
astraean 3 years ago
@astraean : and people like you shouldn't be allowed to have animals- by the way...
I have two active sighthounds- both racing and coursing and NONE had ever any injuries with their dewclaws
But I'm sure that's just a coincidence- also that in most European countries the removal of this claws are against the animal welfare act. But sorry- i forgott! I shouldn't be allowed an opinion Mr. Know-it-all
Culannsnewcomer 3 months ago
@Culannsnewcomer WHACKO! I would not use Europe for any analogies. Who cares. This does not harm them and we require more to be done to human babies. Wake up people, animals do not cry tears and do not think like us. Relax all you so called animal lovers who would save an animal before a human being.
SAVAGER0ACH 2 days ago