I can't believe we have ex-gay camps. If America gets more retarded I'm moving to fucking Canada. Americans are so fucking stupid. Why do we even worry about people being gay? Theres people starving, dying, and suffering everyday. Instead we focus our efforts in stuff that isn't even an issue.
I think Patrick is handsome and intelligent. If he lived in my town I would take him out to dinner and later have him meet my Grandma. That so-called counselor he saw for treatment should have been reported to the state.
That's a sad but happy ending story. It's a shame that wonderful people like this get taken advance of all the time. Places and people like Mike is what's wrong with society. You are who you are no matter what, we should all love one another with out condition.
I know it sounds really weird, but I have a gay friend who would have liked the holding therapy part of it. Not so much the rest of it though. I'm with everyone who says this Mike Jones guy's crazy.
Thank you so much for your honesty. People like your fake 'therapist' drive young men to self hatred and suicide. It's so great to know that your personal strength finally allowed you to survive. All my best wishes to you Patrick.
Wow you seem like a great guy, and seems like you are finally happy with yourself. I think ex-gay therapy is a bunch of crap, but this Mike guy takes the cake! What a flammmming predator! It is quit clear he is gay himself, and he puts out a bad image for all decent gay people. There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is just who we are! I hope you find happiness and can move on from such a bad experience.
Most of these "therapists" that claim to be "success stories" are being paid by the ministries and therefore have more of a motive to keep their mouth shut in terms of their sexuality. In reality, they are still gay. Just VERY closeted.
I am sorry that this happened to you. Many people do this and don't realize that the damage they do is long lasting. It is simply reprehensible that someone would take advantage of young men who are confused about their feelings. I am glad you found your way out of this. I at one time tried to get into one of these things so I can be 'cured' but I realized that I refuse to hate myself anymore.
I'm glad he came to terms with his sexuality. That's bizarre that the "therapist" would make this guy lay on top of him for long periods of time like that. Wonder if the "therapist" is closeted? hmmm
Thank you so much for sharing. You are brave and incredible, and if you aren't already with someone awesome, I predict it happening in the future. :-)
Wow, what a powerful video. Please don't judge our entire country based on the actions of a few villains like this Mike Jones guy. That's just as wrong as judging all gay people because a couple in the bunch are sick and twisted too. Most of us are on the side of peace, happiness, and tolerance but are too afraid, apathetic, or ignorant to do anything. :/
Thanks for sharing your story. It's very important to get the word out that this type of "therarpy" doesn't work! What a perv his "therapist" is. Totally disgusting.
My story: no ex-gay therapy but my family disowned me when I came out. Hard times followed but I found the love of my life and we celebrate our 23rd anniversary on Mar. 3. Still so in love. My mom finally met my hubby...last year.
I think the therapist wanted something other than to cure him... Like "so... you like this movie... anything you feel like doing? no?... ok... you want me to hold you? we could do it after you do some shirtless push-ups..." Just saying... XD
If Christians were "loving", they'd accept God's will over their own agenda, and accept that the Lord has always, and will always, make some of His children gay. Then they'd stop the hate.
I agree with an earlier comment, Mike sounds like a very repressed gay. Patrick, my heart goes out to you. We all have a difficult time accepting ourselves at one time or another, but it seems you really had a difficult time. I wish I could have been there to give you support. Your face is certainly not the low rate Mike gave it. One to ten, your face is certainly a TEN, I hope by now that you have found that special boyfriend, and that you both are happy.
What a frightening story. It sounds like the man he describes is most certainly a warped individual preying on confused and questioning youth in order to gain control of them and live out his own sick and manipulative sexual fantasies. Patrick is well rid of him. My heart goes out to anyone else that man is preying upon and abusing psychologically and spiritually.
I am really sorry for this sensitive beautiful guy. I wish he had been born somewhere in Europe, nobody would have tried to convert him into anything. Americans, get a fucking grip!!! Homosexuality is NORMAL. We don't know why it exists but it fucking does and in GREAT numbers. If it were only 10% of the population (the lowest modern estimates) that means 600 million people!!!! you guys are fucking up in their heads! Well, that is the figure worldwide anyway. Thank god less in the fucking USA.
It amazes me Gary Glenn and the American Family Association of Michigan refers gay and lesbian people to Corduroy Stone and creepy Mike Jones. I've read in an article the Jones is gay but suppresses his sexuality. It's time LGBT people and our straight allies in Michigan to stand up and protest for LGBT equality (from 2nd parent adoption to same-sex marriage)! Michigan, I mention often, is the "Northernmost Hypersocially Conservative State NOT Belonging to the Bible Belt."
What a hottie ! He shouldn't have tried to change his sexuality , but at least it has taught him a great lesson , to accept himself the way he is :) .
The worst thing ex-gay therapy does is destroy self-esteem and confidence. Self-esteem and confidence are very basic parts of our psychological health. If a person doesn't have those basic parts as a strong foundation, his or her psychological health will eventually collapse as it becomes more complex.
I feel so bad that Patrick experienced this treatment when I never had to as a gay man. I hope this kind of treatment is outlawed one day.
Patrick. This person was using you for his own fantasy, and trying to gain your confidence by these bonding and closeness exercises. The questions he was asking you was conditioning behaviour in order for you to respect his authority and trust him, regardless of damage it did to you: it has traumatised your belief system and you are afraid of gay men, and perhapes men who show any sign of closeness to you. This creep has damaged you. But, you have your voice and you have spoken.
I watched five seconds of this clip ... And the people who had that guy go to gay therapy should be punched ,,, several times ... He's too handsome to be alone and feel lonely ... Hugs*
whoa your face got a low score!!!..youre ADORABLE!!..thank you so much for posting this video..my parents wanted me to go to anti-gay therapists..christian groups and such..i always wonder what could have happened to me if i had let it happen...i feel very badly for you..but i am glad for the confident and proud..thank you and good luck.
LOL why don't straight people just imagine what it would be like if they had to be put through GAY therapy - imagine it might be next to impossible, right?
Why does this happen over and over again, people are just born gay so get over it haters. If you can't accept the fact that some people are gay then you have no business having children and putting them through this crap over and over. The Mormons have had their torture "Aversion Therapy" Exodus International has their version and they leave a trail of misery and a lot of deaths on their hands, why is religion used as an excuse to get away with child abuse.
I have met this Mike Jones dude and I uh, yeah.. Hes kinda creepy. The fact that the first time I met him it was in his house was creepy and IDK everything about the whole expirince was just awkward. I still like boys too so I guess it didnt work. lol
I don't think this is an indictment against Christianity but an abuser. I feel sorry for his man but I don't like that his story stereotypes Christians as conservatives that hate gays because that is not the case.
Ok I have been to exgay therapy and it works. You have to be willing to change your life. This Mike person wasn't trying to be help[ful. It sounds like he needs some help also.
God bless you, Patrick, for having the courage to come out with this. People need to be protected from the man who molested you. It doesn't matter what age you were, when you're in a position of desperation and weakness, then they are taking advantage of you. I too have been harmed by ex-gay therapy.
Thank you for posting your story, Patrick. This is one of those cases where I wish I could take away your pain. I'm sure you've found many people who love and accept you.
That's one very handsome man!!. Love yourself Paddy. This probably wouldn't be of any help, but if you ever want anymore of that holding thing, but from a non-secular angle, I'm your man. ;-x
These Exodus ex gay therapy counselors are mentally ill, not the gay people who go to them. Seriously, this organization needs to be SHUT DOWN because it doesn't work, God created gay people and he loves them for WHO THEY ARE. Fundamentalists need to get over the fact that after they embrace gay people into their churches, that there is no left to hate, they're so afraid of not having anyone left to hate that they're clinging to this ONE last group that is "different" than everyone else.
Well, besides the fact that Mike Jones might be a predator, I have a different take on why Jones was asking about Patrick's penis size. Some of these nutcakes believe that most gay men have small genitalia and therefore have fear of a sexual encounter with a female..No trulhfully! LOL
interesting, had never heard that. i find it hysterical that mike jones asked penis size and for him to take his shirt off and do pushups. how much in denial can you get?
There is NO justified reason why Mike Jones needed to know the penis size of any of his "patients". Jones is a sick, perverted predator who needs to be in jail!
At least you have some common sense my aunt is convinced this therapy works even when people show evidence that its not. Some more proof they arent real is that two of the founders of exodus came out and said they never really changed they married each other and apoligized saying the camps where a load of crap.
how are you "against" it? So what, you think gay people shouldn't be gay, or you fight against gay rights? You think gay people shouldn't be happy and be who they are or you're just against it because someone told you it's a sin?
XiaoFury, what exactly does it mean for you when you say you are "completely against homosexuality"? Do you mean that gay people should struggle against who they are and should marry someone of the opposite sex? Would you want to be married to such a person? Or have your daughter marry one?
Or does "against homosexuality" just mean that you yourself aren't gay? In which case, what is it to you?
Mike Jone's creepy ministry needs to be exposed on National Television. People need to know about the snake-oil insanity that Mike Jones is involved with.
Mike Jones? I would not be surprised if he was related to Jim Jones (also not be surprised if he was as delusional as Jim Jones is). I would advise all of the people who are going through these programs to get out as well as not drink the Kool-Aid.
(@ 3:30) This Mike Jones guy was trying to score this guy's overall attractiveness? The only curve on the evaluation of this survey is that this quack just want to "score", period. LOL
There is no better word to use when describing homosexuality than "natural." Only the uneducated and delusional (i.e. the religious) are still unaware of new animal research that has come out in the last 10-15 years, much of which is part of various students' (or former students') doctoral theses, and has yet to be incorporated fully into currently used textbooks!
Wow, that's really sad. I wish you all the best and the happiest life on earth! We really have to do something about these so-called conversion therapies. They're causing damage for no reason and make young people's lives miserable!
Conversion therapy is quackery. If this testimony is true, the utter lack of professionalism of this therapist, Mike Jones, is still shocking. This is sexual harassment plain and simple. People who violate other people's boundaries like that, should not be allowed to work in any capacity where they have power over others. I hope that eventually organisations and individuals who offer conversion therapy will be brought to justice as frauds and abusers.
There is little religious about his counselor's deliberate abuse. My flip conclusion would be that "counselors" want to damage gay men's sexuality without truly believing it can change, it's as if he wants to damage in others what he sees and fears about himself.
I think the parents get off WAY TOO EASY in this discussion -- and unlike the counselor, is probably largely religious, but in a robotic self-hating way.
Im glad I never had to go thru that - I had very excepting family and frnds...and I have a gay sister...2 of us out of 8 kids...we're adults now..im 49,gay sis is 50..im the 6st,shes 5th.....we are very fortunate to have a loving family.
Some x-ians do not care about the damage they do, what matters to them is that they act out and validate their beliefs, and be damned with the fallout.
I was in an ex-gay group in the late 80's. Today I am happy, content and OUT and PROUD. Mental health began for me when I began the journey of self-acceptance, of loving myself, of being fierce about myself. Coming out isn't an event, it's a wonderful journey that leads to joy and inner peace. I feel for this young man, I was there once.
Ex-Gay therapy often horrifies me. But so do the levels of ignorance some people will pile up to hide behind so they never have to actually FACE reality.
Any discussion of ex-gay therapy ought to include the obvious, which is that practitioners of such are suffering from homophobia, and are abusively spreading that disease, rather than treating it in themselves and their clients. By allowing religion to act as a cover for homophobia, the APA today failed to do its job.
Patrick: I'm so sorry to hear about your suffering, and so relieved to know that you got out of that stuff. Your "counselor"'s actions were both incredibly inappropriate, and telling. They "tell" this truth: Religious beliefs do not and cannot change sexual orientation. There is NOTHING wrong with being gay. Zero, zilch, nothing. But there's plenty wrong with deception and manipulation.
What this man did to Patrick is no different than what a child molester does.
iruparatso 1 month ago in playlist More videos from wbesen
I was harmed by ex-lefthandedness therapy.
My parents wanted a son who was righthanded, and somehow they thought I was an abomination in the eyes of God.
I even begged and pleaded them and told him that Paul McCartney played bass left handed, and they insisted that the Beatles was music of the Devil.
ffairlane57 3 months ago
I can't believe we have ex-gay camps. If America gets more retarded I'm moving to fucking Canada. Americans are so fucking stupid. Why do we even worry about people being gay? Theres people starving, dying, and suffering everyday. Instead we focus our efforts in stuff that isn't even an issue.
BlueKeyNotesTen 3 months ago
Christians are afraid to use cock to cock because they only climax in their bibles
julesario 3 months ago
Wats the name of the song at the end?
romperstompist 3 months ago
I think Patrick is handsome and intelligent. If he lived in my town I would take him out to dinner and later have him meet my Grandma. That so-called counselor he saw for treatment should have been reported to the state.
thepowrof1 4 months ago
therapist - the rapist
BananaSandwich1 4 months ago
That's a sad but happy ending story. It's a shame that wonderful people like this get taken advance of all the time. Places and people like Mike is what's wrong with society. You are who you are no matter what, we should all love one another with out condition.
poofsplat 4 months ago
I would bet half of those guys on camp hook up. lol
Lius525 5 months ago
All "ex-gay therapy" is a scam led by predators. "Smell the smell of another man"? Wow. Just wow.
criskity 5 months ago
what a fucked up world where religious nuts mess with the heads of teenagers simply for being gay - Patrick your amazing just the way you are xx
trevortrevortsr2 6 months ago
so hes straight or what , or was he poundin bums in ex-gay camp?
phizX1 6 months ago
therapist? more like sexual predator. This was sexual and psychological harassment, plain and simple.
gariadara 6 months ago
I know it sounds really weird, but I have a gay friend who would have liked the holding therapy part of it. Not so much the rest of it though. I'm with everyone who says this Mike Jones guy's crazy.
hellplance 6 months ago
@bradleysmith11 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha lol To funny
moyisbick 7 months ago
Thank you so much for your honesty. People like your fake 'therapist' drive young men to self hatred and suicide. It's so great to know that your personal strength finally allowed you to survive. All my best wishes to you Patrick.
mensskintightlowrise 7 months ago
holding therapy... well thats not gay at all.
MisterOpinionated1 7 months ago
"holding therapy"...sounds great, i'll try it with my sig-other tonight!
skewlboypin 7 months ago
I love how blatantly gay the gay conversion therapy is.
setherman412 7 months ago
Sounds like the therapist was a sick fuck
EconomicTerror 8 months ago
Wow you seem like a great guy, and seems like you are finally happy with yourself. I think ex-gay therapy is a bunch of crap, but this Mike guy takes the cake! What a flammmming predator! It is quit clear he is gay himself, and he puts out a bad image for all decent gay people. There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is just who we are! I hope you find happiness and can move on from such a bad experience.
MrJlo87 8 months ago
Most of these "therapists" that claim to be "success stories" are being paid by the ministries and therefore have more of a motive to keep their mouth shut in terms of their sexuality. In reality, they are still gay. Just VERY closeted.
djxthexmonferno 8 months ago
Watch "Shock Therapy: A Dark Comedy" on Youtube!
brionyreadit 8 months ago
wtf??!!! "therapist"
It's like he's dating the therapist without knowing it.
bradleysmith11 8 months ago
@bradleysmith11 THE RAPIST
BootyFister 8 months ago
I am sorry that this happened to you. Many people do this and don't realize that the damage they do is long lasting. It is simply reprehensible that someone would take advantage of young men who are confused about their feelings. I am glad you found your way out of this. I at one time tried to get into one of these things so I can be 'cured' but I realized that I refuse to hate myself anymore.
vidhead85 8 months ago
how could that man rate his face bad he is so fucking hot
ColinYohanVEVO 9 months ago
the therapist was gay!
aznladuk007 10 months ago
@Sidney38SNJ
Ciao Bello Sidney!
It's always so encouraging to encounter, as I'm walking around many corners, you out in the community
and see you selflessly minister to others! Especially to our queer(LGBT/gay) brothers and sisters, who are hurting!
May G-D Bless You, My Friend!
Blaine
blainebill39 10 months ago
freaky
jessicalynnstrom 10 months ago
I'm glad he came to terms with his sexuality. That's bizarre that the "therapist" would make this guy lay on top of him for long periods of time like that. Wonder if the "therapist" is closeted? hmmm
TheDS4000 11 months ago
sounds to me like your therapist wanted you BAD lol
Itznem 11 months ago
Thank you so much for sharing. You are brave and incredible, and if you aren't already with someone awesome, I predict it happening in the future. :-)
videogamemaker 11 months ago
Sounds like this Mike guy's a closeted homosexual. Seriously, hitting on his patients in a "covert" way like that. Pft.
codeythesilent 11 months ago
to cute to be taken from us
jihadxarif 11 months ago 4
Wow, what a powerful video. Please don't judge our entire country based on the actions of a few villains like this Mike Jones guy. That's just as wrong as judging all gay people because a couple in the bunch are sick and twisted too. Most of us are on the side of peace, happiness, and tolerance but are too afraid, apathetic, or ignorant to do anything. :/
newsagent89 11 months ago
Thanks for sharing your story. It's very important to get the word out that this type of "therarpy" doesn't work! What a perv his "therapist" is. Totally disgusting.
My story: no ex-gay therapy but my family disowned me when I came out. Hard times followed but I found the love of my life and we celebrate our 23rd anniversary on Mar. 3. Still so in love. My mom finally met my hubby...last year.
Took her 20+ years but better late than never.
STOP THE EX-GAY LIES1
suvariboy 11 months ago
This guy is hot
Uglyknees 1 year ago
I am so sorry that happened to you. I nearly made the same mistake you did and am so glad I didn't. I hope you are OK now.
dsc999 1 year ago
Poor guy and those terrible christians!
VeganGirl20 1 year ago
CREEEEEEEPY!!!!
It sounds like Mike was just a scared, creepy homosexual taking advantage of another man's insecurities!
What a slime ball... I'm glad you're away from that crap and can truly be yourself
=^_^=
BlankPicketSign 1 year ago
I think the therapist wanted something other than to cure him... Like "so... you like this movie... anything you feel like doing? no?... ok... you want me to hold you? we could do it after you do some shirtless push-ups..." Just saying... XD
MrKry 1 year ago
wanna know what its like to be an ex-gay teenager? watch my video response above!
JesseTheStraightGuy 1 year ago
The loving Christian message is: "God made you and loves every bit of you - except your gay bits, which come from Satan. What could be more hopeful?"
tardans1 1 year ago
If Christians were "loving", they'd accept God's will over their own agenda, and accept that the Lord has always, and will always, make some of His children gay. Then they'd stop the hate.
GodCreatesGays2 1 year ago
I agree with an earlier comment, Mike sounds like a very repressed gay. Patrick, my heart goes out to you. We all have a difficult time accepting ourselves at one time or another, but it seems you really had a difficult time. I wish I could have been there to give you support. Your face is certainly not the low rate Mike gave it. One to ten, your face is certainly a TEN, I hope by now that you have found that special boyfriend, and that you both are happy.
tahoemack 1 year ago
5 people are just jealous of how much prettier he is than they are. =]
sirlaughsalot1234 1 year ago
"Holding therapy" and watching full frontal nudity films doesn't sound like a godly thing to do.
evangelistbro 1 year ago
What a frightening story. It sounds like the man he describes is most certainly a warped individual preying on confused and questioning youth in order to gain control of them and live out his own sick and manipulative sexual fantasies. Patrick is well rid of him. My heart goes out to anyone else that man is preying upon and abusing psychologically and spiritually.
BrizyComics 1 year ago
Mike Jones is a repressed gay, a creep and puts the "rape" in therapy, just like that assclown Richard Cohen.
DragonFly122 1 year ago
I am really sorry for this sensitive beautiful guy. I wish he had been born somewhere in Europe, nobody would have tried to convert him into anything. Americans, get a fucking grip!!! Homosexuality is NORMAL. We don't know why it exists but it fucking does and in GREAT numbers. If it were only 10% of the population (the lowest modern estimates) that means 600 million people!!!! you guys are fucking up in their heads! Well, that is the figure worldwide anyway. Thank god less in the fucking USA.
amatorynumber 1 year ago
Well you don't sound/look gay so you must be cured, hurray!!
botchalism 1 year ago
does it sound weird or does the ex-gay counselor sound awfully gay?
charbroiledmonk1033 1 year ago
It amazes me Gary Glenn and the American Family Association of Michigan refers gay and lesbian people to Corduroy Stone and creepy Mike Jones. I've read in an article the Jones is gay but suppresses his sexuality. It's time LGBT people and our straight allies in Michigan to stand up and protest for LGBT equality (from 2nd parent adoption to same-sex marriage)! Michigan, I mention often, is the "Northernmost Hypersocially Conservative State NOT Belonging to the Bible Belt."
BrownBrother27 1 year ago
I'm always amazed when I watch this video at how brave Patrick is. Does Mike Jones still have a job? He should be on a sex offender registry.
CyborgNinja7 1 year ago
What a hottie ! He shouldn't have tried to change his sexuality , but at least it has taught him a great lesson , to accept himself the way he is :) .
TippingWater 1 year ago
The worst thing ex-gay therapy does is destroy self-esteem and confidence. Self-esteem and confidence are very basic parts of our psychological health. If a person doesn't have those basic parts as a strong foundation, his or her psychological health will eventually collapse as it becomes more complex.
I feel so bad that Patrick experienced this treatment when I never had to as a gay man. I hope this kind of treatment is outlawed one day.
BTW, he's a perfect 10.
eddiegamez1 1 year ago
Patrick. This person was using you for his own fantasy, and trying to gain your confidence by these bonding and closeness exercises. The questions he was asking you was conditioning behaviour in order for you to respect his authority and trust him, regardless of damage it did to you: it has traumatised your belief system and you are afraid of gay men, and perhapes men who show any sign of closeness to you. This creep has damaged you. But, you have your voice and you have spoken.
operbathosa 1 year ago 5
I watched five seconds of this clip ... And the people who had that guy go to gay therapy should be punched ,,, several times ... He's too handsome to be alone and feel lonely ... Hugs*
colormecolorless 1 year ago
Should be laws against these sexuality changing therapy sessions.
superstubes 1 year ago 2
@superstubes Lawsuits
MsTransactivist 1 year ago
whoa your face got a low score!!!..youre ADORABLE!!..thank you so much for posting this video..my parents wanted me to go to anti-gay therapists..christian groups and such..i always wonder what could have happened to me if i had let it happen...i feel very badly for you..but i am glad for the confident and proud..thank you and good luck.
jmfashio 1 year ago
LOL why don't straight people just imagine what it would be like if they had to be put through GAY therapy - imagine it might be next to impossible, right?
ohm4 1 year ago
@JonnySerge I know right? Total cutie. I wanna go to an Ex-Gay camp now LOL.
TheAlaricPetz 1 year ago
This Mike guy sounds like a sexual pervert.
auntiesanity 1 year ago 3
Thankyou for that story. It is essential that brave people post vids like this
pidog 1 year ago
Why does this happen over and over again, people are just born gay so get over it haters. If you can't accept the fact that some people are gay then you have no business having children and putting them through this crap over and over. The Mormons have had their torture "Aversion Therapy" Exodus International has their version and they leave a trail of misery and a lot of deaths on their hands, why is religion used as an excuse to get away with child abuse.
TheReturnofNIlbog 1 year ago
he is very cute, but i could see all the pain in his eyes... thats so sad, what he had to go through
los84a 1 year ago
Thank you for having the courage to tell your story! I am sorry you had to go through that abuse.
Longe 1 year ago 4
you're way hot!
tiffanybiffany13 1 year ago 3
Ouuuuuu Cutie! I am glad he is out!
MeNevinst 1 year ago 3
hey u wana go and get a drink some time! lol
it sounds like your therophist like u or something? lol haha
saidkilo 1 year ago
Patrick was molested and raped!
frostfirei 1 year ago
Stay strong, Patrick.
MissLiv17 1 year ago
I have met this Mike Jones dude and I uh, yeah.. Hes kinda creepy. The fact that the first time I met him it was in his house was creepy and IDK everything about the whole expirince was just awkward. I still like boys too so I guess it didnt work. lol
chadmichael0513 1 year ago
I don't think this is an indictment against Christianity but an abuser. I feel sorry for his man but I don't like that his story stereotypes Christians as conservatives that hate gays because that is not the case.
tibblea1 1 year ago
Ok I have been to exgay therapy and it works. You have to be willing to change your life. This Mike person wasn't trying to be help[ful. It sounds like he needs some help also.
01kwood 1 year ago
good for you patrick
dokidoki360 1 year ago
f**k mike jones. your hair and face are both 10s. thanks for your video.
maddog6975 1 year ago
God bless you, Patrick, for having the courage to come out with this. People need to be protected from the man who molested you. It doesn't matter what age you were, when you're in a position of desperation and weakness, then they are taking advantage of you. I too have been harmed by ex-gay therapy.
CyborgNinja7 1 year ago 3
Patrick you are SO HANDSOME!!!!!
formenlehre 1 year ago 3
these perverts use the excuse of therapy to get it off with young kids. it's pretty obvious! and it's sick!
masquenada73 1 year ago
What a remarkable man Patrick is, and what a complete piece of crap Mike Jones must be.
Rexcetera 1 year ago
Great work, Patrick. You seem like a great guy. How horrible your life must have been. Everything will be better now.
Rexcetera 1 year ago
Mike Jones!! Who?? Mike Jones!!
silvernitrate10 1 year ago 2
he's cute :D
i Love him :D
jackjersey11 1 year ago
Seems Mike Jones wanted to be your man, and was a predator.
kjdnyhmghfvb 2 years ago 2
Thank you for posting your story, Patrick. This is one of those cases where I wish I could take away your pain. I'm sure you've found many people who love and accept you.
larrygentry 2 years ago
That's one very handsome man!!. Love yourself Paddy. This probably wouldn't be of any help, but if you ever want anymore of that holding thing, but from a non-secular angle, I'm your man. ;-x
ZizousDoudou 2 years ago
Wow. Thanks so much for that. That was really touching.
samfrizell 2 years ago 3
Homosexuality is part of nature and beautiful thing. And Patrick too.
Klapcina 2 years ago 7
What a racket!! I could never imagine falling for this, but I hear these sad stories over and over. Life's too short.
Enjoy your love-life Patrick,
grapeboy83 2 years ago
Sounds too much odd. Poor you!
bidedkid2 2 years ago
Pat, you seem to be a very nice person. Any man would be lucky to have you as a life partner.
rollypollyjoe 2 years ago 5
Hey, that's not a Christian side-hug!
MrsPoodle78 2 years ago 2
He's sooo cute.
It's good that he got out of ex gay therapy. Now he can find an awesome guy :)
JonnySerge 2 years ago 44
@JonnySerge I know right? Total cutie. I wanna go to an Ex-Gay camp now LOL
TheAlaricPetz 1 year ago
@JonnySerge
my sister liked a guy but "too bad he was gay" she says.
stickman2012 5 months ago
Its to bad Patrick had to go through this. At least he finally noticed the guy was wrong. I hope he has happy life now.
stephenisakeeper 2 years ago
I'm sorry you had to go through that. At least you finally released he was wrong.
stephenisakeeper 2 years ago
These Exodus ex gay therapy counselors are mentally ill, not the gay people who go to them. Seriously, this organization needs to be SHUT DOWN because it doesn't work, God created gay people and he loves them for WHO THEY ARE. Fundamentalists need to get over the fact that after they embrace gay people into their churches, that there is no left to hate, they're so afraid of not having anyone left to hate that they're clinging to this ONE last group that is "different" than everyone else.
JonnySerge 2 years ago 5
lolfgt
Jfroese2007 2 years ago
Stay strong, Pat. As a bisexual girl with many GLBT friends, I wanna salute you for your courage.
TsukasaElkKite 2 years ago 5
Well, besides the fact that Mike Jones might be a predator, I have a different take on why Jones was asking about Patrick's penis size. Some of these nutcakes believe that most gay men have small genitalia and therefore have fear of a sexual encounter with a female..No trulhfully! LOL
RandyReality 2 years ago 3
interesting, had never heard that. i find it hysterical that mike jones asked penis size and for him to take his shirt off and do pushups. how much in denial can you get?
FriderikusRex 2 years ago
Actually, according to actual studies, gay guys are on average larger than their straight counterparts.
...those that's neither here nor there. :)
beautifulirony 2 years ago
Thank you and stay strong.
johnozed 2 years ago
As for Mike Jones and all of the douchebags at Exodus, FTP (Fuck That Puto).
ChavoMysterio 2 years ago 3
That Mike Jones guy obviously had sexual motivations to those creepy exercises.
lordcica 2 years ago 3
You score a ten from me, Patrick.
Fuck Mike Jones and all the closet cases at Exodus International!
shadowplayer1980 2 years ago 7
Patrick, will u marry me! Damn, i'm gay, and have a huge crush on you!
roch202020 2 years ago
This is a truly horrible things he had to endured. I can only say, please be happy live your life and find the love you so deserve.
cyanleopard 2 years ago 6
I think you are a beutiful man with a story and you were gullible. There are a lot of churches for gays and they accept you just the way you are!
bakert7000 2 years ago 5
There is NO justified reason why Mike Jones needed to know the penis size of any of his "patients". Jones is a sick, perverted predator who needs to be in jail!
westenmark 2 years ago 8
thank you for making this video and telling your story!
ericinknox 2 years ago 7
Applause to Patrick for this video.
@XiaoFury nobody gives a fuck what you think because you're a total idiot.
CrudelyAnimated 2 years ago
I am completely against homosexuality, but I have to admit that the therapy sounds quite fishy....
XiaoFury 2 years ago
At least you have some common sense my aunt is convinced this therapy works even when people show evidence that its not. Some more proof they arent real is that two of the founders of exodus came out and said they never really changed they married each other and apoligized saying the camps where a load of crap.
Knowledgeduh 2 years ago 2
how are you "against" it? So what, you think gay people shouldn't be gay, or you fight against gay rights? You think gay people shouldn't be happy and be who they are or you're just against it because someone told you it's a sin?
rigso321 2 years ago
well said?
ecnaDBoi 2 years ago
XiaoFury, what exactly does it mean for you when you say you are "completely against homosexuality"? Do you mean that gay people should struggle against who they are and should marry someone of the opposite sex? Would you want to be married to such a person? Or have your daughter marry one?
Or does "against homosexuality" just mean that you yourself aren't gay? In which case, what is it to you?
socxan 2 years ago 3
Mike Jone's creepy ministry needs to be exposed on National Television. People need to know about the snake-oil insanity that Mike Jones is involved with.
Rockymtntruth 2 years ago 5
Can't pray away the gay
AAL 2 years ago 8
lol u can also stray the way today
sadguyfoundout1 2 years ago
Mike Jones? I would not be surprised if he was related to Jim Jones (also not be surprised if he was as delusional as Jim Jones is). I would advise all of the people who are going through these programs to get out as well as not drink the Kool-Aid.
ChavoMysterio 2 years ago
(@ 3:30) This Mike Jones guy was trying to score this guy's overall attractiveness? The only curve on the evaluation of this survey is that this quack just want to "score", period. LOL
ChavoMysterio 2 years ago 4
Why did I get a minus 1 for that? When I meant Quack, I meant Mike Jones.
ChavoMysterio 2 years ago
just recently, the American Psychological Association did a study and agree that Ex-Gay therapy doesn't work... in fact, it does more harm than good.
SaraMarie41 2 years ago 42
There is no better word to use when describing homosexuality than "natural." Only the uneducated and delusional (i.e. the religious) are still unaware of new animal research that has come out in the last 10-15 years, much of which is part of various students' (or former students') doctoral theses, and has yet to be incorporated fully into currently used textbooks!
davidjuly 2 years ago 6
Sounds like:
South Park Episode 1102
When Butters has to go to a special camp where they "pray the gay away."
Silveracity 2 years ago 3
Wow, that's really sad. I wish you all the best and the happiest life on earth! We really have to do something about these so-called conversion therapies. They're causing damage for no reason and make young people's lives miserable!
afhdfh 2 years ago 3
Thank you for sharing. Stay strong!
kiltnc 2 years ago
It sound like to me that guy was secretly in love with him.
msscott73 2 years ago
If there was an attraction on Jones' part, he clearly had a very warped way of showing it.
bkboy87 2 years ago 2
sounds like mike was trying to seduce him and it didnt work
plankboi 2 years ago 2
Conversion therapy is quackery. If this testimony is true, the utter lack of professionalism of this therapist, Mike Jones, is still shocking. This is sexual harassment plain and simple. People who violate other people's boundaries like that, should not be allowed to work in any capacity where they have power over others. I hope that eventually organisations and individuals who offer conversion therapy will be brought to justice as frauds and abusers.
LindaDanvers 2 years ago 7
There is little religious about his counselor's deliberate abuse. My flip conclusion would be that "counselors" want to damage gay men's sexuality without truly believing it can change, it's as if he wants to damage in others what he sees and fears about himself.
I think the parents get off WAY TOO EASY in this discussion -- and unlike the counselor, is probably largely religious, but in a robotic self-hating way.
TGIFurry 2 years ago 6
Im glad I never had to go thru that - I had very excepting family and frnds...and I have a gay sister...2 of us out of 8 kids...we're adults now..im 49,gay sis is 50..im the 6st,shes 5th.....we are very fortunate to have a loving family.
rextrek 2 years ago 5
Thanks for sharing your story with us!
revilolee 2 years ago 2
Some x-ians do not care about the damage they do, what matters to them is that they act out and validate their beliefs, and be damned with the fallout.
I was in an ex-gay group in the late 80's. Today I am happy, content and OUT and PROUD. Mental health began for me when I began the journey of self-acceptance, of loving myself, of being fierce about myself. Coming out isn't an event, it's a wonderful journey that leads to joy and inner peace. I feel for this young man, I was there once.
bagelboi66 2 years ago 6
xoxo
disneylandman66 2 years ago
Ex-Gay therapy often horrifies me. But so do the levels of ignorance some people will pile up to hide behind so they never have to actually FACE reality.
Purrrple 2 years ago 3
Any discussion of ex-gay therapy ought to include the obvious, which is that practitioners of such are suffering from homophobia, and are abusively spreading that disease, rather than treating it in themselves and their clients. By allowing religion to act as a cover for homophobia, the APA today failed to do its job.
rg0057 2 years ago
kudos to you for sharing your story.
daveingr 2 years ago 4
This guy is very brave to share this heartbreaking story.
Eshto 2 years ago 4
Patrick: I'm so sorry to hear about your suffering, and so relieved to know that you got out of that stuff. Your "counselor"'s actions were both incredibly inappropriate, and telling. They "tell" this truth: Religious beliefs do not and cannot change sexual orientation. There is NOTHING wrong with being gay. Zero, zilch, nothing. But there's plenty wrong with deception and manipulation.
billk700 2 years ago 7