I have a 400ex that will smoke a stock 450's ass with the right sprocket. I've got a sprocket for acceleration on it but all i need to do is change to my top end sprocket.
My 426 with cams, cdi box, moded air box, exhaust, and 450 carb just to name a few things. Will beat a stock 450 easy..it's the same horse power but the piston is lighter and higher compression so it actually revs out quicker. If you want a good woods bike get a 400 and widen it, throw some 450 shocks on it and it will handle like a dream.
@InsanityRewritten all depends on rider. would never own a renegade i wuld buy a outlander if i wanted a utitity. but i like the sport bikes more cause i got more confidence on them. but a rappy 700 or 700xx wuld blow a renegade away
@hondarider5781 no actually a piped renagade will beat a stock raptor or a raptor with mods just because the raptors never hook up i raced a 550 ho renagade with 400 pounds worth of people on it and IVE GOT TO SAY HOLY SHIT its quick now the 800 is even quicker
@XxROCKSTARxX69 ya but its a auto utility with sport plastics.. that like sayin a f-350 dually would beat a ferrari... not happining.. unless the rider sucks dick
@MrSweetleaf92 if 70s fast for you, but you do 70 everyday back and forth from work. a banshee will do 85 stock no problem. i just dont see the point in a renegade i would get a outlander before the renegade at least put racks on a utiltiy quad. i would never own a utility bike. the closest thing i would have to a utility quad wise would be a 700xx, other tahn that i woudl jet get a side by side, but thats why they make all different kinds cause every1 likes different things
@hondarider5781 70 in a caris average. 70 on a sport is quick. not that quick but still quick. the point in a renegade is kinda like a sport and trail. same as the kfx700, the trx700xx, the yamaha 350 and 450 4x4 wolverines
@MrSweetleaf92 out of what you mentioned i would by far rather have the 700xx, 1 because its a honda and 2 because it feels more like a sporty bike to me with the ride of a utility with irs and it is still fast enough to run with anything out there
@MrSweetleaf92 thats fine, its your money buy what you want but i wuld rather have the 700xx i just feel more at home on it because ive always rode sport quads
@MrSweetleaf92 my buddy has one and it rides like a utility but has trhe get up and go power and isnt auto like a kfx700. it slides better than you think once you get used to it, but not like a 400 or 450 by any means. but im looking to get one since i can get a 09 for $4999 new
my 400ex with a slip on pro ciruit jetted k&n a 405 11:1 wiseco and -1 on the counter shaft sprocket will run with my friends 450 that has a full sparks a velocity filter and a jet kit
i have a 2007 400ex and i love it and if u put a money into the 400ex u can make it run with a 450r my 400ex will tap out on the road at 73 mph all stock but i have been told that is a little bit faster than other 400ex's tho they normally run about 68 it just depends on your four wheeler and im saying the 450r would run around 80-85 correct me if im wrong
get a 400ex if i were u cause there pretty fast and great for trail riding i own an o7 400ex and its great and about being fast it all depends on the rider and if u can drive it and if u have the right tires of course also lot cheaper than the 450r
im trying to decide between the 400ex and the 450r and i currently have a 250ex but the power is no where near what i want. is a 400 good or a 450 im going to be doing mostly trail riding..ill also be putting about a thousand dollars into which ever one..for a thousand dollars can i make the 400 really fast? please give your opinion
for trail riding the 400 is better. the 450 definitely has a lot more power and is faster, but can be hard to ride in the woods. if u get a 400 and put a little money in it u will have a great 4wheeler but it still won't be as fast as a stock 450r.
my 400 will easily keep up with a 450r, i got an 05 400ex, about 1k into it, full yosh rs3, 440, stage 3 hot cams, and big gun cdi, all totaled around 850 ish, but i did all the work my self.
@kotabrd14 i had a 250ex and got a 400ex and was amazed if your doing trail riding i would go with the 400ex and if you put some money in it you can make it a monster i got a 440 kit for mine and jetted it and it 10 times better then before but you have to make sure your going to do it right if you go cheap its going to fuck the thing up bad
Im about to build my 400ex into a 440. Beat the piss out of it for years and of all things the rings go out on it. Later I wanna get the brock carb and better cam. It will tear up my other 400 though..
you do wheelies using your clutch,I'm not talking about popping a pussy ass wheelie I'm talking about shifting through the gears in a wheelie like starting wheelie in thrird gear and ending up in fifth doing 65 on two wheels.Use your clutch to ride a 20ft wheelie and I won't use my clutch and pass you on two wheels and you can watch me for as long as your eyes can see.I was correct you started riding quads 8 months ago.
read some articles, do your self a favor, and don't waste your money on a ds. They are slow, and if you want to mod them, they are hard to work on. you have to remove the rear shock to mod the exhaust.
Okay.. My neighbor has a fucking ds... its fast, i don't need to mod it... YOu obliviously haven't ridden one dumb ass.... Its faster than my old 400ex... Have you cut the wire?
I love being called a dumbass when I'm simply trying to give some advise. First off, FUCK OFF. Secondly, read Dirtwheels magazine, or go to the website.
Okay buddy, I have RIDDEN ONE!! I DO MORE WHEN I BUY A QUAD THEN LOOK IN A MAGAZINE... I HAVE RIDDEN BOTH!!! THE ds 450 is fast.. You just have to cut the race wire, to unlock efi mapping....
I'm guessing you own one then? JUST BECUASE YOU BUY ONE QUAD, DOSNEN'T MEAN IT IS THE BEST EVER, YOU DILUTED FUCK. The only "race ready" quads are made by KTM, all they need is a number plate. By the way, If they are the best on the market, then why do they win almost nothing in MX, and GNCC circuits?
450r is so much better ds can go suck a cock cuz its like the worst quad out there according to all the shootouts and peoples reviews. theres a bunch on the local craigslist "getting rid of because i really dont like it" so ya go trx450r all the way
Ha my Blaster yes i said it blaster does that too man it is all pretty much aftermarket and has a crazy ass powerband, im trying to sell it for only like $1200 to buy an all aftermarket CR125 with a rebuilt engine new top end, exhaust, EVERYTHING is on this bike
I FRICKIN LOVE HONDA. I have a 2008 trx 450r. With an HRC kit. with an smaller rear sprocket(higher top speed). oh my god!!! that mother f***** is SOOOOOOOO fast!!!
shorter stroke, higher rpm, loss of low end torque. If you ride trails, the 400ex will smoke a 450r. 400ex with a pipe, intake, jet and cam will match a 450r. if you ride trails, get a 400ex. If you can ride with the throttle open most of the time, go for the 450. I say get the 400 and a big bore kit... it will smoke any 450 out there.
idk dude... After you cut the wire, re gear it out of total bottom end it comes shipped with 450r pulls away and never goes back.. all you have to do is put 40 minutes of work...
and 2 450r is so much nicer in the air and the 400ex is a little faster..
haha u guys are funny.. i ride honda and i know that a stock yamaha is faster and better stock.. :D but put an hrc kit on the hnda and race.. the hrc makes the hp on the quads the same ..:D its like paying the extra 300 for the 3 vaulves that yamaha has except the hrc is a hop up kit.. ha faqs
ya i totally agree 400ex have way more torque than a 350 raptor, my buddy adams 2006 350 raptor has plenty of power but he cant pull wheelies as easy. hes selling it and gettin a older model 400ex. hes had so much problems with it.
@rooney62danny I 2nd that! There are so many ATC's still kicking around. Everyone knows Honda is the best, Even if they dont admit it they know it's true. ATC 250R all the way baby
start out in second gear with higher revs you will do better, shift at high rpms without using clutch, just like riding a wheelie. When did most of you guys start riding quads a week ago?
You can still shift if your doing it right haha. Some times I'll be cruising in 2nd gear and then want to go faster so I just let it go down and run it up to 5th. I can only do it on my XR though. My YZ is too touchy.
just look at my channel and u can see my 400ex
crazyredneck42069 1 month ago
I have a 400ex that will smoke a stock 450's ass with the right sprocket. I've got a sprocket for acceleration on it but all i need to do is change to my top end sprocket.
crazyredneck42069 1 month ago
it sucks honda stopped making the 400ex but i guess its all about the upgrading
88fordredneck 1 month ago
400 ex
brandyimes1 5 months ago
My 426 with cams, cdi box, moded air box, exhaust, and 450 carb just to name a few things. Will beat a stock 450 easy..it's the same horse power but the piston is lighter and higher compression so it actually revs out quicker. If you want a good woods bike get a 400 and widen it, throw some 450 shocks on it and it will handle like a dream.
theswaggerist 8 months ago
MrSgig
lamoreau11 10 months ago
I have a 400ex bored out to a 430 do you think it would beat a 450r?
lamoreau11 10 months ago
@lamoreau11 no i have mine bored out to a 440 and it still will not beat my dads 450r
MrShigels 10 months ago
Yamahas hondas and harleys are the best quads and motorcycles and buells
raptoratemywarrior 11 months ago
I would have to say honda makes the best quads.
Yamaha makes faster dirt bikes but honda's you can have forever.
Honda's the best it's pretty obvious. Only downside is the side x side. big red it's work only :s
Spenlard 1 year ago
polaris outlaw 525. The fastest stock quad avaliable.
WinterBaller10 1 year ago
@WinterBaller10
I'd say a Honda 700XX could hang or beat it. Though fastest stock ive seen is the Renegade 800
InsanityRewritten 1 year ago
@InsanityRewritten renegade 800 is a slow automatic cvt heavy 4 wheeler a banshee, 450 or 700xx could run off and leave it
hondarider5781 1 year ago
@hondarider5781
i love hondas ect but the renegade 800 is faster. stock renegade vs 450r and renegade won, ive seen it multiple times.
InsanityRewritten 1 year ago
@InsanityRewritten all depends on rider. would never own a renegade i wuld buy a outlander if i wanted a utitity. but i like the sport bikes more cause i got more confidence on them. but a rappy 700 or 700xx wuld blow a renegade away
hondarider5781 1 year ago
@hondarider5781 no actually a piped renagade will beat a stock raptor or a raptor with mods just because the raptors never hook up i raced a 550 ho renagade with 400 pounds worth of people on it and IVE GOT TO SAY HOLY SHIT its quick now the 800 is even quicker
XxROCKSTARxX69 1 year ago
@XxROCKSTARxX69 ya but its a auto utility with sport plastics.. that like sayin a f-350 dually would beat a ferrari... not happining.. unless the rider sucks dick
hondarider5781 1 year ago
@InsanityRewritten well the renegad is a 800cc V-twin of course its gonna win lol
MrSweetleaf92 1 year ago
@hondarider5781 renagades are automatic and heavy, but definatly not slow. nothing compared too a banshee but thay are fast!
MrSweetleaf92 1 year ago
@MrSweetleaf92 if 70s fast for you, but you do 70 everyday back and forth from work. a banshee will do 85 stock no problem. i just dont see the point in a renegade i would get a outlander before the renegade at least put racks on a utiltiy quad. i would never own a utility bike. the closest thing i would have to a utility quad wise would be a 700xx, other tahn that i woudl jet get a side by side, but thats why they make all different kinds cause every1 likes different things
hondarider5781 1 year ago
@hondarider5781 70 in a caris average. 70 on a sport is quick. not that quick but still quick. the point in a renegade is kinda like a sport and trail. same as the kfx700, the trx700xx, the yamaha 350 and 450 4x4 wolverines
MrSweetleaf92 1 year ago
@MrSweetleaf92 out of what you mentioned i would by far rather have the 700xx, 1 because its a honda and 2 because it feels more like a sporty bike to me with the ride of a utility with irs and it is still fast enough to run with anything out there
hondarider5781 1 year ago
@hondarider5781 i would take the renegad ONLY for the 4 wheel drive
MrSweetleaf92 1 year ago
@MrSweetleaf92 thats fine, its your money buy what you want but i wuld rather have the 700xx i just feel more at home on it because ive always rode sport quads
hondarider5781 1 year ago
@hondarider5781 lol im not gettin one. i would like to take a ride on the trx700xx tho
MrSweetleaf92 1 year ago
@MrSweetleaf92 my buddy has one and it rides like a utility but has trhe get up and go power and isnt auto like a kfx700. it slides better than you think once you get used to it, but not like a 400 or 450 by any means. but im looking to get one since i can get a 09 for $4999 new
hondarider5781 1 year ago
@WinterBaller10 na, banshee is still avalible ;)
snapfish89 1 year ago
my 400ex with a slip on pro ciruit jetted k&n a 405 11:1 wiseco and -1 on the counter shaft sprocket will run with my friends 450 that has a full sparks a velocity filter and a jet kit
93hondaracer 1 year ago
i have a 2007 400ex and i love it and if u put a money into the 400ex u can make it run with a 450r my 400ex will tap out on the road at 73 mph all stock but i have been told that is a little bit faster than other 400ex's tho they normally run about 68 it just depends on your four wheeler and im saying the 450r would run around 80-85 correct me if im wrong
wvufan821 1 year ago
get a 400ex if i were u cause there pretty fast and great for trail riding i own an o7 400ex and its great and about being fast it all depends on the rider and if u can drive it and if u have the right tires of course also lot cheaper than the 450r
mgamez87 1 year ago
how often do you need to change tthe oil on a 450 ?
coshyno 1 year ago
@coshyno after every ride is the best way to go
04honda400ex 1 year ago
@04honda400ex ill stick to my slow 400ex then xD
coshyno 1 year ago
i have a 440ex with 11:1 compression and stage 3 cam it might keep up with that 450r
brety099 1 year ago
im trying to decide between the 400ex and the 450r and i currently have a 250ex but the power is no where near what i want. is a 400 good or a 450 im going to be doing mostly trail riding..ill also be putting about a thousand dollars into which ever one..for a thousand dollars can i make the 400 really fast? please give your opinion
hoosierdaddy8608 2 years ago
for trail riding the 400 is better. the 450 definitely has a lot more power and is faster, but can be hard to ride in the woods. if u get a 400 and put a little money in it u will have a great 4wheeler but it still won't be as fast as a stock 450r.
paintballermk1 2 years ago
alright cool thanks for replying
hoosierdaddy8608 2 years ago
my 400 will easily keep up with a 450r, i got an 05 400ex, about 1k into it, full yosh rs3, 440, stage 3 hot cams, and big gun cdi, all totaled around 850 ish, but i did all the work my self.
tuff311 2 years ago
@tuff311 hell yea thats what im talkin about thats where my 400 is headed stomp some 450s
wrage7956 1 year ago
@hoosierdaddy8608 get 400 ex 1 its a great bike ive had 3 had no problems with it so get 400 ex or whatever
dafavi90 1 year ago
@hoosierdaddy8608 get the 400
billyvans123 1 year ago
@hoosierdaddy8608 400, u gata have reverse for trailen(it helps) i got a 250 wit moded pipes and custom filters:)
akusistersord 1 year ago
@hoosierdaddy8608 Hey Dude EXACT same position you are in also have 250ex wanting more plz tell meh what you did . Thanks
kotabrd14 10 months ago
@kotabrd14 i had a 250ex and got a 400ex and was amazed if your doing trail riding i would go with the 400ex and if you put some money in it you can make it a monster i got a 440 kit for mine and jetted it and it 10 times better then before but you have to make sure your going to do it right if you go cheap its going to fuck the thing up bad
MrShigels 10 months ago
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Copy and paste if your a Honda FAN!!
dirtbike1006 2 years ago 4
Im about to build my 400ex into a 440. Beat the piss out of it for years and of all things the rings go out on it. Later I wanna get the brock carb and better cam. It will tear up my other 400 though..
soccerbabe0512 2 years ago
you do wheelies using your clutch,I'm not talking about popping a pussy ass wheelie I'm talking about shifting through the gears in a wheelie like starting wheelie in thrird gear and ending up in fifth doing 65 on two wheels.Use your clutch to ride a 20ft wheelie and I won't use my clutch and pass you on two wheels and you can watch me for as long as your eyes can see.I was correct you started riding quads 8 months ago.
deric221 3 years ago
your so cool talking about your wheelies i wish i was as good as you
HUFFY15067 3 years ago 6
huffys suck dick dude
trillakilla 3 years ago
huffy was being sarcastic ;)
Transane 3 years ago
my 05 400 ex doesnt need the clutch to be popped to pull a wheelie in 3rd there buddy. just punch the throttle and the bitch pops up
hondaracing15 2 years ago
I am so close to buying one of those of or a 450r or a ds 450 xc depends on which one i find used in better condition first....
IMT00CLAN 2 years ago
read some articles, do your self a favor, and don't waste your money on a ds. They are slow, and if you want to mod them, they are hard to work on. you have to remove the rear shock to mod the exhaust.
ariel4more 2 years ago
Okay.. My neighbor has a fucking ds... its fast, i don't need to mod it... YOu obliviously haven't ridden one dumb ass.... Its faster than my old 400ex... Have you cut the wire?
IMT00CLAN 2 years ago
I love being called a dumbass when I'm simply trying to give some advise. First off, FUCK OFF. Secondly, read Dirtwheels magazine, or go to the website.
ariel4more 2 years ago
Okay buddy, I have RIDDEN ONE!! I DO MORE WHEN I BUY A QUAD THEN LOOK IN A MAGAZINE... I HAVE RIDDEN BOTH!!! THE ds 450 is fast.. You just have to cut the race wire, to unlock efi mapping....
IMT00CLAN 2 years ago
the ds is the best 450 on the market. its fast, comfortable, reliable, and race-ready. u dont know shit. just keep reading your dirt wheels mag lol
bkhaja89 2 years ago
I'm guessing you own one then? JUST BECUASE YOU BUY ONE QUAD, DOSNEN'T MEAN IT IS THE BEST EVER, YOU DILUTED FUCK. The only "race ready" quads are made by KTM, all they need is a number plate. By the way, If they are the best on the market, then why do they win almost nothing in MX, and GNCC circuits?
ariel4more 2 years ago
cause yamaha has the yfz450
rocker6969696 2 years ago
and the yfzs dont win nothing cuz of the trxs haha.. j.k
letsstartariot95 2 years ago
Ya screw can-am and their lowsy crap honda and yamaha are way better
BWRProductions 2 years ago
450r is so much better ds can go suck a cock cuz its like the worst quad out there according to all the shootouts and peoples reviews. theres a bunch on the local craigslist "getting rid of because i really dont like it" so ya go trx450r all the way
BWRProductions 2 years ago
Ha my Blaster yes i said it blaster does that too man it is all pretty much aftermarket and has a crazy ass powerband, im trying to sell it for only like $1200 to buy an all aftermarket CR125 with a rebuilt engine new top end, exhaust, EVERYTHING is on this bike
ICPisnumber1 2 years ago
my friend runs a low 7 on his 400ex.. it has good amount of mods..its dropped like 2 inches from the ground
oVega1987o 3 years ago
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fuck honda
cacaman408 3 years ago
grow up
competitionready 3 years ago 4
or fuck cacaman408 cause hes a prick lol
hotrodder000 3 years ago
fuck you
dekanox 2 years ago
u no wht would be good race trx 450r 400ex and trx 250r with a pipe and reeds
trx250rforlife 3 years ago
I FRICKIN LOVE HONDA. I have a 2008 trx 450r. With an HRC kit. with an smaller rear sprocket(higher top speed). oh my god!!! that mother f***** is SOOOOOOOO fast!!!
shawnman1234 4 years ago
there is no way that the 400 ex won unless it was piped
tyseman 4 years ago
it didn't win
Knewsance666 3 years ago
Agreed, a 400ex would probably need more mods than a pipe to beat a stock 450r.
crackerjackjay 3 years ago
the 450r is more of a drag quad...
shorter stroke, higher rpm, loss of low end torque. If you ride trails, the 400ex will smoke a 450r. 400ex with a pipe, intake, jet and cam will match a 450r. if you ride trails, get a 400ex. If you can ride with the throttle open most of the time, go for the 450. I say get the 400 and a big bore kit... it will smoke any 450 out there.
Transane 3 years ago
you're full of shit. My friend has a camed 440ex and my 2005 trx450r only has a pipe and an intake and it still blows his away every time
quadrider74 2 years ago
400ex will smoke a 450r easily if its done up right, i beat 450r's, raptor 700's, outlaw 500's. anything i put it up to it blows by them.
honda440ex3 2 years ago
yeah, but thats kind of like saying that a 350 ex will beat a 450r...
you can make any bike competitive with enough mods...
modify the bigger engine, however, and you can beat a bike one class above.
There is NO replacement for displacement.
Transane 2 years ago
idk dude... After you cut the wire, re gear it out of total bottom end it comes shipped with 450r pulls away and never goes back.. all you have to do is put 40 minutes of work...
and 2 450r is so much nicer in the air and the 400ex is a little faster..
IMT00CLAN 2 years ago
what have you done to your bike to beat 450r's ?
nickiticki 2 years ago
440 kit, stage 3 cam, ported and polished, edelbrock carb, and yoshi pipe
honda440ex3 2 years ago
If the 400ex was faster...They would race the 450r in the big boyz class...just my opinion right there..
08Legacy08 2 years ago
haha u guys are funny.. i ride honda and i know that a stock yamaha is faster and better stock.. :D but put an hrc kit on the hnda and race.. the hrc makes the hp on the quads the same ..:D its like paying the extra 300 for the 3 vaulves that yamaha has except the hrc is a hop up kit.. ha faqs
Red45or 4 years ago 2
my 05 400ex tears the fuck outta raptor 350's there no comparison, and yamaha's have way less torque. the only yamaha i like is the banshee
hondaracing15 2 years ago
ya i totally agree 400ex have way more torque than a 350 raptor, my buddy adams 2006 350 raptor has plenty of power but he cant pull wheelies as easy. hes selling it and gettin a older model 400ex. hes had so much problems with it.
07HONDA400EX07 2 years ago
Honda rocks! I have a 2002 Honda Sportrax 400ex
Thug4Life742617 4 years ago
its two hondas you can't get any better! who agrees?
ben185m 4 years ago 43
I DO honda is by far the best make of quad and motorcycle forget yamahas and kawis !
rooney62danny 4 years ago 22
@rooney62danny I 2nd that! There are so many ATC's still kicking around. Everyone knows Honda is the best, Even if they dont admit it they know it's true. ATC 250R all the way baby
red1450 1 year ago
@rooney62danny for real those engines are indestructable
hotrod0906 1 year ago
@rooney62danny Honda is #1, buuut suzuki is pretty good too. i love the Z400
utube8353 1 year ago
@rooney62danny hey honda AND yamaha are good the yfz and r are two of the best quads out there
XxROCKSTARxX69 1 year ago
@rooney62danny i think they are all good dude. except suzuki quads.
MrSweetleaf92 1 year ago
did the guy on the400ex startin 2nd gear
NDileo25 4 years ago
start out in second gear with higher revs you will do better, shift at high rpms without using clutch, just like riding a wheelie. When did most of you guys start riding quads a week ago?
deric221 4 years ago
Is that rought on your tranny though? Shifting without the clutch? I always use mine when I wheelie haha
elemento1991 3 years ago
na i dont shift when im pullin wheelies cuz if u do a wheelie right u wont rev too high.
hondaracing15 2 years ago
You can still shift if your doing it right haha. Some times I'll be cruising in 2nd gear and then want to go faster so I just let it go down and run it up to 5th. I can only do it on my XR though. My YZ is too touchy.
elemento1991 2 years ago
Ive been thinking about taking my 450 to the track. About what will one run on 1/8?
HondaMoto3 4 years ago
the best that one of us ran on a 450 was a 9.34 at 72mph.
paintballermk1 4 years ago
@paintballermk1 uhm not true i have a 400ex and ive put around 1500 into it and it eats 450s.
but before you go pouring money into the engine i would of recomended you put diffrent suspension on it
RedRangerDanger 7 months ago
@RedRangerDanger uh tht is a lie i own a 400ex modded to shit 85mph nt enough for the 450r
hondarider400ex1 1 month ago
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@RedRangerDanger uh tht is a lie i own a 400ex modded to shit 85mph nt enough for the 450r
hondarider400ex1 1 month ago
who did u think was goin to win? lol
do a 250r vs. 450r vid. go 250r!
kxaddicted 4 years ago
450r will beat a 250r vary easily.
kenm120 4 years ago
dude. i have a 400ex && my friend a 450.. && i dont think that guy was trying very hard
foxracer4lyfe 4 years ago
dude thats not very quick my stoks 400 does 11.75s in 1000ft.
kendallbeard4 4 years ago