Corvette's Sebring ALMS Commercial - Just To Be Fair

[jmurockstar]

funny, I don't see porsche bragging about having to run their much slower 460hp gt3 rsr instead of the 620hp gt2rs... hmmm, porsche needed to "dial it back" by 160hp too.

[Jab4Films]

Funny is the ZR1 Cost a fraction of all of its competitors and its still taking them to town "Dialed back" GM is just talking shit, Because formally, they have more than A million reasons to do so.

[Off2theGym1987]

Ill start by saying that Ive been blessed with a fortunate life and Im very thankful, so dont take this as bragging. With that being said I own a few Ferraris, Jaguars, Audis, BMWs, and Chevy cars. Out of all my "super cars" I find myself grabbing the keys to my ZR1 over everything else. It easily combines comfort, fairly easy maintenance, all around driving ease, and huge horsepower. All my other cars are toys, my ZR1 combines the best of both worlds and at a reasonable price. Just my 2¢

[RK1Hatty]

I find it funny that Ferrari and Aston had to do the same thing.The 458 produces 562 horses and they had to dial that back. The aston which formally produced 625 had to be dialed back as well. I don't see them tooting their horns about "being fair". Then its even more funny when BMW, a company which had to ADD power, is spanking everyone!

Way to go Chevy, you government subsidised bastards.

[GITRDONE26201]

just goes to show you how big of pussies those import car companies are

[motionelco]

Fuck yeAh!!!

[prancinghorsebaker]

105 people don't know anything about ALMS.

[threeoreight]

Corvette Wins GTE Class, Scores Seventh Win for Chevrolet; you can hear crickets from all the BS talkers from here before...

[tuca98]

sorry, your prediction was wrong.

[SfiftyfourM3]

and the fact that the M3 is allowed to have a higher wing is bc of the size of the front end in height, looks at its competitors. all much sleeker more aerodynamic designs. the M3 is a much taller car so the wing that the others use would have no affect on downforce at all. ALMS is very fair when it comes to its rulemaking. the M3 dominates bc its a properly setup car. the vette is great, you guys are completely missing my point. and dude, we all know what a porsche is then and what it is now.

[SfiftyfourM3]

that vette is not even a zr1. its a c6r (NON production)its chevy's version of the 911 RSR and the M3 GT. its no where near stock. its a stock chassis but thats it. as far as the M3 being given special circumstances. the suspension pickup points were to allow proper suspension geometry bc every other car(430, vette and 911) are already very low to the ground, the M3 was not as low so in order to allow proper travel, they adjusted the pickup points. really not that big of a deal man.

[JKFrazier]

Just to add, the Corvette GT2 is far closer to a production car than the 911 or especially the M3 in ALMS. The M3 almost has nothing in common with the normal M3 in terms of bodywork or suspension pickups. They had to be given special clearances in order for the car to be competitive. But hey, it's whatever.

[SfiftyfourM3]

man, you are all as dense as they come. 2 M3's, 2 Ferrari's and approx 6-7 Porsches. i have no idea where you get the 6 for 10 wins but thats not right either. theres no point in talking to you guys, you are all so thick headed youll never understand. i love the corvette, i wasnt attacking it at all. my point was that it has a long way to go before it can be as successful as cars like BMW, porsche and ferrari who have been doing this since the beginning of time. spell PORSCHE correctly, my god.

[JKFrazier]

@SfiftyfourM3 A long way to go? You can't be serious. They've been racing the Corvette since the 1950's. Yes, that's before the M3 or 911 were even conceived. Check the SCCA record book and see what cars have dominated the top classes. I can bet that you won't see Ferrari and Porsche there. The Corvette hasn't traditionally had a factory backed international race effort but in terms of logging time on the racetrack, the Corvette nameplate has been doing it longer than its competition.

[7superduper]

@SfiftyfourM3 PORSCHE started out as a revamped "sporty" (if you can even call it that) version of the old Volkswagen Beatle. Corvettes were being built around the same time that were much faster. If you look at it that way Corvettes are just carrying on a tradition of success.

[threeoreight]

I am not sure why the ill informed keep replying about the BMW I eat every time I see one... the fact though is Corvette has won the 24hr of LeMans 6 out of the last 10 years as well. Its a commercial get over it. The BMW ferrarri and Porche put some 8 to 11 cars in every race.... Corvette 2 or 3. The odds say you should come out on top.... Corvette Every day.... win, lose or spin...with you through thick and thin!

[SfiftyfourM3]

and how the hell do you build a car for business? how is spending $100k on a car a good business move? you are a complete and total moron.

[SfiftyfourM3]

wait wait wait. did you just say BMW is not built for racing? the BMW M3 is the most successful touring car ever. thats not me, thats factual information. BMW dominates DP and GT2 this year and last year as well. what in the hell are you talking about?

you might want to do some homework before you make ignorant statements like that. i think its awsome the vettes are in the mix now, the competition is great. but companies like BMW, porsche and ferrari are built on racing.

[route66rocks]

@Sfiftyfourm3 but you think bmw is freaking every thing but let me help you out of your freaking dream bmw is just bad! They arend build for racing they are build for buisness

Im not saying corvette is the best but its cheaper and better then most of the porsches bmws ferraris lambos so take that

[quincywisner1]

i love seing people freak out over vettes!!!!! have any of u people seen any vette engine turbo charged?? hmm well over 1300 hp all day long, i love euro cars but the engines they have cannot do that!! thats why i love vettes, plus ive drivin lots of euro cars and their just not as fun, i love lighting the tires up while goin 80mph , lets see ching chong or bmw or porsche do that. not stock but just turbo charged.

[mcdwf398]

Sticky - "Yes, the ZR-1 is a powerful car but what is with the cheap shot Chevy? Your ALMS motor is based on the Z06, not the ZR-1. Secondly, didn't BMW beat you last year with less displacement and start off this year winning Sebring in 1st and 2nd? Maybe you need the extra power. "

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[GregRX7]

Great commercial; thanks for posting!

Is the low-volume issue from the original production? It would be nice to hear the soundtrack!

Thanks again!

[1through9athrewz]

@vasco10506 yea. i agree. hopefully they make a zr1 version of the corvette in 2013

[mortemcaine]

@vasco10506 yeah but over the years they have really been focusing on a lot more than just power. starting with the c4s they started putting a lot more into handling (one of the only american cars to do that) and the c5 especially improved it. also, with the LS1 they put a lot into getting more mpgs out of a high performance v8 (the LS1 was estimated to have over 26mpg. significantly more than comparable cars).

i'd still kill for a '69 427ci though

[DRFTmonkeh]

so fucking stupid...... ALL those cars had to lose power to compete

[Tonio31]

@DRFTmonkeh It's called marketing.

[DRFTmonkeh]

@Tonio31 marketing to people who don't know shit about motorsports during the broadcast of a major motorsports event? yeah no that's not marketing that's just embarrassing yourself in front of the wrong demographic.

[Tonio31]

@DRFTmonkeh Call it what you want, but at the end of the day, your opinion isn't going to matter. Sales will.

[DRFTmonkeh]

@Tonio31 wtf of course my opinion matters. ALL the opinions matter because those opinions DICTATE sales. like i said, the ZR1 demographic sees from this commercial that GM likes to pretend they're special because they lowered the ZR1's output for competition, regardless of the fact that every team has to. those potential customers will certainly be less inclined to buy from a manufacturer that thinks its customers are stupid enough to be fooled by this ad.

[Tonio31]

@DRFTmonkeh Apparently you still don't realize that we're not the only demographic for this car. Again, it all comes down to sales. If you're going to make your opinion matter, you're going to need a much bigger mic.

[DRFTmonkeh]

@Tonio31 again.... ALL the opnions matter because THEY are what dictates sales. if GM can't create a positive opinion of itself in the eyes of its customers, it wont sell. my opinion matters because it is shared with everyone else with half a brain who saw this ad; collectively, potential GM customers. the ALMS followers aren't the only demographic, but they are a plenty large contingent of consumers that GM would rather have on their side than not. with this ad they only turn them away.

[SuperColossal33]

@DRFTmonkeh i disagree, i like alms and though corvette is not my favourite, this commercial doesnt turn me off in any way shape or form.

[DRFTmonkeh]

@SuperColossal33 it doesn't turn you off that GM thinks you're too stupid to realize that most of the other cars in the corvette's class run less power than stock? it doesn't turn you off that they think you're too stupid to realize the ZR1 doesn't even share the same engine block as the GT2 car?

[SuperColossal33]

@DRFTmonkeh no, it's a simple commercial for the average american that doesn't know anything about ALMS. Which is around 99.5% of americans.

Plus the ZR1 still has more power than the production version of any GT2 car, and the LS series blocks are all basically the same, only the bore size varies.

[DRFTmonkeh]

@SuperColossal33 a simple commercial for simple people that fallaciously glorifies the ZR1 only though deceit and misinformation. it would take pages to detail all of the its lies but here's an example. "they had to dial back the power just to be fair to Porsche, Ferrari and BMW." its more like Ferrari had to dial back the 458 to be fair to GM. the 6.2L supercharged LS9 makes 638hp. naturally aspirated, the 6.2L LS3 only makes 430hp. naturally aspirated, the 458 Italia's 4.5L V8 makes 562hp

[SuperColossal33]

@DRFTmonkeh The ZR1 has 638hp, the car they use in ALMS has less, it's simple.

I don't see what the LS3 has to do with anything here, it's only used in a C6 Corvette.

[DRFTmonkeh]

@SuperColossal33 if it were that "simple" it wouldn't be an effective commercial. like i said, GM blew up the ZR1 with more lies and misinformation than i care to write about... the ZR1's LS9 is really just a supercharged LS3. without the supercharger it's basically the same. the C6 Corvette is naturally aspirated, the C6.R is naturally aspirated, the 458 Italia is naturally aspirated. you compare the numbers and tell me just who had to dial back what.

[SuperColossal33]

@DRFTmonkeh You said it yourself, the ZR1 had to remove it's supercharger to be fair. I thought that was the whole point of this commercial. For some unknown reason to me, you are trying to see a lot more into it

The ALMS Corvette C6.R GT actually has a LS5.5 engine, which is based off of the 900hp unrestricted LS7.R engine from GT1 series) which in turn was based off of the LS7 in the Z06 Corvette

This commercial is just a silly knock off that the ZR1 makes more power than every ALMS GT car

[DRFTmonkeh]

@SuperColossal33 i didn't say that at all. in fact you said it yourself, the ZR1 didn't remove its supercharger, the C6.R uses a totally different engine. i was only comparing which manufacturer had to detune what based on engine aspiration types. i just don't think we see eye to eye.... maybe i didn't clarify my points enough. but i agree on one thing: the commercial was, ignoring all fallacy, just silly.

[aqinthe]

@DRFTmonkeh Yes but try getting 100,000 miles out of the 458's 4.5L with only doing oil changes. It's not going to happen. But yes you ae right the commerical is misleading.

[YellowCamaro85]

the reason they say ZR1 ..first off its not misleading..its the body and chassie of theZr1 not Z06 they use the same geniral principal as the 7.0L block but it is its own motor...BMW Ferrari and porsche all cried unfair when the Vettes showed up Fuel Injected motors...Corvette desroyed GT1 competiton it a matter of time before the new team gets used to there new restictions and rules.. the other three have been in GT2 so they have the head start..lets see how next season ends up

[BimmerBoost]

@YellowCamaro85 It's misleading because they are talking about "horsepower" and having to dial it down. Well, the motor they use has nothing to do with the ZR-1. They are misleading people into thinking they take a ZR-1 and dial the power down when they use an LS7 as the base, not an LS9. The general public won't know this and take it literally.

- BimmerBoost. com

[YellowCamaro85]

@BimmerBoost that i can agree with no it dosnt make sence but you and i or anyone else following FIA racing knows its a farce.. they are trying to justify it as a ZR1 because of the chassie and body..but at the same time if the AlMS regulations didnt require an displacement regulation am sure GM would dtune the LS3 or LS9 i highly doubt theyd ever use the LS9 but the 6.2L motor all the same

[BimmerBoost]

Ridiculous considering the C6 race car uses a modified Z06 motor, the LS7, and not the ZR-1's LS9. So, they are not cutting back the power they are claiming but the general public won't care that this is misleading.

- BimmerBoost. com

[YellowCamaro85]

Where the C6.R and ZR1 differ significantly are in situations where GT rules actually prohibit the use of the more sophisticated ZR1 components. For example, the ZR1 is equipped with carbon-composite brake rotors, while GT regulations require ferrous (steel) brake discs. And, where the ZR1 utilizes a 6.2-liter supercharged V-8,

[YellowCamaro85]

the C6.R uses a naturally aspirated, production-based 5.5-liter small-block V-8.

The Corvette C6.Rs' engines are developed, built and maintained by GM. Designated LS5.5R, the naturally aspirated powerplant is based on the Corvette Z06's 7.0-liter LS7 engine (which in turn was developed with the 7.0-liter race engine used in the C6.R GT1 cars), and is built with a production cast-aluminum cylinder block

[Ioannisthegreat7]

great add. 

[wassa786]

LMAO @ this ad, firstly it doesn't even use the ZR1 platform and secondly, the M3s spanked it on the ALMS races....1st? BMW. 2nd? BMW.

[YellowCamaro85]

@wassa786 ...•Race wins: 78 (through 2009)

•1-2 finishes: 54 (through June 2009)

•ALMS GT1 manufacturers championships: Eight (2001-08)

•ALMS GT1 team championships: Eight (2001-08)

•ALMS GT1 drivers championships: Seven (2002-08)

•24 Hours of Le Mans class wins: Six (2001-02, 2004-06, 2009)

•Sebring 12-hour class wins: Seven (2002-04, 2006-09)

•Petit Le Mans class wins: Seven (2000-02, 2004-05, 2007-08)

[YellowCamaro85]

•American Le Mans Series records: Most race wins by entrant (71); most 1-2 finishes by entrant (53); longest winning streak in GT1 (25, 2007 Sebring/2009 Long Beach); most poles in GT1

•ALMS From the Fans awards: Gary Claudio, Corvette marketing manager, 2002; Doug Fehan, Corvette Racing program manager, 2004 and 2008-09

•ALMS Most Popular Driver awards: Ron Fellows, 2004-07

•Special awards: Overall winner in inaugural ALMS Green Challenge at 2008 Petit Le Mans; Corvette C6.R

[YellowCamaro85]

@YellowCamaro85

[aqinthe]

@wassa786 I forgot, who won both GTE classes at the 24 hrs of LeMans this year?

[bogdanhh]

Can corvette take corners? :)

[dmontayre]

LOL if Porsche of Ferrari made a 6.2L V8, it would make a hell of a lot more power than the 'Vette. Oh and good job last year Corvette, with your only win coming on the very last race because you got lucky that the Risi Ferrari pit crew fucked up and didn't give it enough fuel so it ran out on the last lap

[michaelclausing]

@dmontayre Compare the physical displacement of these engines and by that I mean the block, the heads, manifold etc. The small block and it's variants (LS1,2,3, etc) are small and more compact.

[HeroCna]

not just the facts, just the bullshits.

come on chevy you lost , BMW won last year with much less displacement and it seems it is going to win again this year

[boramkiv]

"Just to be Fair" WHAT?? LOL It's not being fair, It's called rules, I hate when manufacture use these stupid commercials that diss other car brands! Why don't you just make a normal commercial stating specs or something? Fair, LOL as if NASCAR uses restrictor plates to be fair. Without rules and regulations there would be no sports!

[ivanlai0225]

@boramkiv the term fair can apply to everyone

[obzelite]

@boramkiv erm, nascar does use restrictor plates to be 'fair' , its an easy way to level the field and stop teams that would spend a squillion bucks on engine development be level with a small team that takes a hit financially if they blow just one motor in a season. fact is the corvettes powered is restricted by a plate to be 'fair' it means something like the corvette with a stupid amount of power wont decimate the other cars, if other manufacturers don't have a chance, they wont even enter.

[flawns]

@boramkiv yes they are right...its to make a FAIR even race with all the companies. Why dont you understand? why are you lashing out on this commercial?

[HiShBL2]

I LOVE YOU GM <3

[catchermag]

Chevy runs deep...balls deep.

[cool12328]

they're american so i def support them, but i want my money back... thanks mr. obama for buying GM for me

[lelio98]

@cool12328 perhaps you weren't paying attention, but the auto bailout was initiated by former President Bush in December of 2008. Just want to make sure you thank the right person. As for it being an American car, only about 80% is American (depending on the version). In some cases the engines are made in Canada and the transmissions are from Mexico. Sad but true... right on par with the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord in percentage made in America.

[cool12328]

@lelio98 umm... the auto bailout was drawn up during president Bush's term, it was put into action, signed, and approved by President Barack Obama... so when u point fingers, point it at the right person, and i don't care that GM only makes 80% of the corvette in America... it's a U.S. icon and they know every single person in the country is pissed at them, so it's a hell of a lot better than what it used to be... 40% made here in the late 80's and 90's

[lelio98]

@cool12328 I agree that it is an American icon, and a fantastic albeit not necessarily American made car. The auto bailout for GM and Chrysler is something that I completely disagreed with when Bush started it, although I understand Obama not wanting to kill it since the ball was already rolling. I don't understand why we needed to bailout companies that make products in Canada and Mexico, let those countries bail them out in my opinion, or let them go under.

[cool12328]

@lelio98 yea he shoulda let them go under ... but then again how would our economy climb back out of the hole? well at least now we agree but im not tryna get into a politcal debate so ill just leave it at that... the corvette is an absolutely fantastic American icon. lol

[lelio98]

@cool12328 I suppose that is the dilema for many similar situations. How do you stick to your guns without occasionally doing some short term harm?

I love seeing Corvettes run in ALMS and in international series. I think the Corvette racing team is one of the few things GM has done right in a long, long time.

[cool12328]

@lelio98 agreed!

[ReventonF22]

I'm sooooo DAMN tired of their new crappy slogan; really GM?!

[mortemcaine]

@vasco10506 The 7.0 liter engine you're referring to, the LS7, is not supercharged. The ZR1 uses a supercharged LS3 dubbed the LS9. Not that it affects the point you were trying to make since the LS9 is still 6.2 liters, I just wanted to clear that up.

That being said, if every car had a rear mounted 3.6 liter twin turbo boxer 6 then there wouldn't be anything special about any individual car. Different goals, different ideas, different outcomes, all legitimate.

[1through9athrewz]

import lovers have NOTHING to say. i dont care how intelligent you are, you cant come up with a statement that combats this ad. zr1 can cake a murcielago sv, for about 1/4 of the cost. simply put, corvettes the best.

[firkyfoodling]

@1through9athrewz I think they could. I don't want to rubbish the ZR1, but GM were starting with a 6.2 litre supercharged 638hp car which had to be detuned to fit into the GT racing regulations while Porsche, Ferrari et al start off with 450-odd hp naturally aspirated cars which can be tuned to meet the regulations. Both Porsche and Ferrari have road cars that can beat a Corvette in a straight line and in the end the Corvettes were beaten by both Ferrari and BMW in the race.

[1through9athrewz]

@firkyfoodling lol are you sure Porsche and ferrari have cars that can beat the zr1? look at this video. zr1 spanks 599, gt2 and gtr. the link is right here: /watch?v=OZlGMX8G3B4

[firkyfoodling]

@1through9athrewz fair one, but that was the 911 GT2, the GT2 RS has another 90hp over that thing, and less weight. It'll run the 1/4 mile in 11.0 seconds (to the ZR1s 11.3) and holds the production car lap record around the Nordschleife. According to Google Ferrari's 458 Italia will do the 1/4 mile in 11.22 seconds, which is also faster than the ZR1. Granted both of these cars cost more, and these are slightly irrelevant benchmarks, but on paper at least, the 458 and GT2 RS are faster.

[1through9athrewz]

@firkyfoodling what your saying seems about 100% true. but you said that the 458s11.22 was faster than the zr1, but isnt the 599 Ferrari's fastest model ever? (Enzo's engine). i personally have a hard time believing that the v8 458 will beat the v12 599. i mean, my logic says if the faster car cant beat it, a slower car cant either. unless, their is an extreme weight difference. imho.

[firkyfoodling]

@1through9athrewz I don't know that the 599 was ever Ferrari's fastest model, perhaps the model you're thinking of is the new 599 GTO, which is their latest penis-extension and I think that would beat a 458.

Regardless, the 458 has a better power-to-weight ratio than the standard 599 (405 plays 362hp/ton according to Google) so on paper at least it should beat it. That's still a little behind the ZR1 @421hp/ton and the GT2RS @446hp/ton.

I really need to get out more...

[1through9athrewz]

@firkyfoodling penis extension lol. yea, i think we all can agree that although the zr1 is usually the fastest compared to most super-cars, many would get the car that costs twice as much instead. but still, if you only care about performance; not luxury, being stared at in your car, thinking every second about it being stolen, and being the talk-of-youtube-videos, the zr1 is the best supercar on the road today.

[2jzgtejza80]

@1through9athrewz

ZR-1 is really great car, but not the best. using some EU developed parts. Suspensions are helped a lot, and great aerodynamic. ZR-1 is not best ''supercar'', but cheapest sport car.

Supercars are rated to use naturally aspirated engine like Enzo and McLaren F1, while Hypercars using mosty forced induction system. Corvette ZR-1 is high performance sport car, not supercar.

[1through9athrewz]

@2jzgtejza80 i understand what yooure saying, but the all of the bugatti veyrons are QUAD TURBOCHARGED (its way overdone). and i dont believe that the pagani however-you-want-to-pronounce-­it is naturally aspirated too. btw, what do u mean by force inducted system.

[2jzgtejza80]

@1through9athrewz

Force Induction = Air pressured into engine using superchargers (several types) or turbocharger.

Naturally aspirated engines have normal pressure about 1 bar, while everything above is forced induction.

[coryc10]

@2jzgtejza80 Um... One of the greatest "supercars" of all time was a v8 twin turbo. Ferrari f40. Actually, I believe the F40 invented the supercar. I don't believe that, that is the proper definition.

[2jzgtejza80]

@coryc10

That's exception, since Bugatti is hyper-car, like Ultimate Aero, Koenigsegg, and other.

Institute for motorsport claimed many definitions for fast cars, but what I'm saying only 0,1 % people really knows. Sry on bad english.

[2jzgtejza80]

@coryc10

F40 is exception, probably.

[coryc10]

@2jzgtejza80 I don't think that a N/A or forced induction defines a super car or a hyper car. A super car is a car that is superior to most other cars on the road. A hyper car is simply greater than that! haha The definition is really what you make of it.. I think it's more opinion based than anything.

[2jzgtejza80]

@coryc10

My definition of true supercar is car with NA engine, natural power with highest level of engineering. Best only real supercar for me and other millions of people around the world is legendary McLaren F1 (unique supercar). Enzo as well, Porsche CGT, and other cars. Modern ''supercars'' are powerful monsters, mostly 1000bhp+, turbos, s/cs. McLaren F1 is still fastest naturally aspirated car. FXX is theoretic faster (Enzo gearbox), but it's race car, not production.

[BCisreallybored]

Haha, lovin it!

[brianduff2000]

@Leadfoot866: It's an advert with a little humor thrown in. Get over yourself!

(Apart from which, 'Porsche and Ferrari' that you mentioned lost to a greater degree than the 'vettes)

I'd say coming 3rd from 9th on the grid and 4th from 2nd on the grid - after having the rear suspension trashed by a wayward Ferrari after being punted off by the (subsequently penalised) Patrick Long in his Porsche is a pretty good result, considering!

[Leadfoot866]

Dial it back, just to be fair?

Yeah, BS!

It's called regulations.

GM, how's about you do your homework before making rubbish ads like this? You weren't the only ones who had to dial down the engines. Porsche and Ferrari had to do the same.

...and you lost, so shut up!

[Konformation07]

@Leadfoot866 Are you stupid? Just to be fair is right because to be fair by following the regulations.

[threeoreight]

@Leadfoot866 porche and ferrari lost to Corvette. If you w2atched the race you would know that the Corvette easily were the more dominant car

[aieljose]

@threeoreight LMAO! Do you realize that they do not even compete in the same class? In the classes that they do compete with each other like GT2, it's not even close. Porsche and Ferrari dominate chevy.

[DRFTmonkeh]

@aieljose porsche and ferrari lost to chevy and bmw at sebring... you know just in case your head was up your ass this week

[aieljose]

@DRFTmonkeh I wasn't aware that Chevy changed classes and now compete with Ferrari and porsche. My point still stands if you look at the GT2 standings for the last decade...you know just in case your head has been up your ass for the last decade.

[DRFTmonkeh]

@aieljose i am well aware of porsche and ferrari's success in the past; however, that obviously isn't the case right now, especially for ferrari. so now you know, since, according to you, you have had your head up your ass for the past two years. that's how long porsche and ferrari haven't been dominating chevrolet.

[aieljose]

@DRFTmonkeh Sorry but 2 years of competitiveness doesn't make up for 10 years of domination IMO. Maybe Chevy will prove me wrong and will actually be able to stay competitive but i seriously doubt it. At least now they have an excuse if they fail.

[SfiftyfourM3]

@threeoreight good thing you didnt mention BMW, considering they are dominant in almost every class they race in.

the vette is not dominant in the least bit over PORSCHE and Ferrari. last year in ALMS they came in 4th in points standings. Ferrari 3rd, Porsche 2nd, and BMW 1st. how does that show corvette domination at all? 12 of you are completely retarded.

you cant just jump in the ring and box with god.

[MLP270SS]

@Leadfoot866 actualy the corvette followed regulations and its engine was still too powerful. so they have to use restricted air intakes to lower the power even more

[lelio98]

@MLP270SS all the cars have restrictor plates on them. The size of the restrictor is based on a number of factors (valve number, cam location, displacement). Corvette's restrictor size is 2x28.5mm

[Tonio31]

@Leadfoot866 When will you people learn? They know about the regulations. It's called marketing.

[solarwrx]

still i think anyone would own a ferrari over a chevy any day,

but kudos to chevy for the zr-1

[Konformation07]

@solarwrx I rather have the ZR1 for one reason. Ferrari is killing off the manual transmission.

[utubejjk]

@solarwrx no..

[threeoreight]

@solarwrx Owned both and would only own a Chevrolet

[oneighturbo]

Truth hurts? It does > they lost. Class rules dictate, so being fair?

"The production-based, moderately modified two- wheel drive race cars comprise the GT class – BMW M3, Corvette C6.R, Ferrari F430 GT, Ford GT-R, Jaguar XKRS, Panoz Abruzzi and Porsche 911 GT3 RSR. The GT cars share many similarities to their showroom brands. With top speeds of up to 180 mph, these elite GTs produce between 450-500 horsepower and have a minimum weight of 1,145 kilograms (2,480 pounds)."

[tjon901]

Having 50% more displacement and being supercharged had nothing to do with it I guess.

[johnmcll9]

@tjon901

And thats coming down from the 7.0L N/A they used to run

Not Chevy's fault porsche and ferrari want to use pussy ass motors

[lelio98]

@johnmcll9 If Ferrari runs such lame motors, why is the 458 a quicker car than the Z06? I am not chagrinning the Corvette, it is a fine car, but perhaps you should do some research before you press submit.

[threeoreight]

@lelio98 you need to look up the facts.... I drive and own new ZO6... I have plenty of friends with the ferrari and the fact is they would ne a pro driver to do what i can.

[lelio98]

@threeoreight so sorry, I must have missed the memo... The one about you owning a Z06 and having friends with Ferraris. The facts are thus, Ferrari has a quicker 0-62 time than the Corvette's 0-60 time. I don't see how your ownership or friendship changes that.

Also, I think you either missed or misunderstood the part of my comment about not chagrinning (shaming, causing disrespect to) the Corvette, it is a fine car, but the ad is bit misleading.

[ltz9999]

@lelio98

Problem is, Ferraris are notoriously unreliable, not that their owners care, but they have a very finicky temperament. Vettes, considering their power, are quite reliable.

[lelio98]

@ltz9999 yeah, their resale value speaks volumes towards their being so unreliable.

[feedmebeatzyx]

@lelio98 0-60 times dont really matter if theyre only off by miliseconds cuz of the gear ratios.

[lelio98]

@feedmebeatzyx I agree, but the point was that Ferraris and Porsches have "pussy-ass motors" which I was trying to refute. I always forget how trolltastic YouTube commenters are, I should have just ignored it.

[feedmebeatzyx]

@lelio98 hey i agree with you too. didnt mean to troll

[threeoreight]

@lelio98 just because you can look up a few specs makes you no authority, I have taken many track passes in both cars and can speak with REAL intelligence about the cars in real conditions. Sorry u did not get the memo by the way. The fact is both cars are great but the vett gets down the track better, it beat the ferrari who debued in Daytona and for the Vette 1st outing at Sebring... they showed who was boss.

[lelio98]

@threeoreight so in real conditions the Ferrari, though quicker, has a "pussy-ass motor"? Have fun trolling YouTube and sticking up for ass-hats.

[threeoreight]

LS9 engine is infact smaller than the ZO6 LS7 engine..... and the Ferrari has an engine 4499 cc (274.5 cu in.), that is if you are talking about the 458 or 599GTO which is a V12 they are also a 7 speed or 6 speed respectively the 599GT is a 0-62 < 3.35 and the 458 the top speed is 202 and 599 is 208. Anyone that has driven either the ZO6 or Zr1 knows it does well over 202. Not 100% sure but I bet I can get pretty close to the 0-62 <3.4, I will try this weekend and let ya know

[lelio98]

@threeoreight Corvette Z06 0-60mph in 3.6s, Ferrari 458 0-62mph in 3.4s.

The original comment I replied to stated that Ferraris and Porsches have "pussy ass motors". I merely replied that even with it's pussy-ass motor, the 458 out accelerates a Z06 0-60. I made no mention of top speed or overal performance. I am not sure why you felt the need to troll-latch onto my reply, but you did. The Corvette is a great car, and so is the Ferrari even with it's pussy-ass motor.

[threeoreight]

@lelio98 grow-up.. its called a reply not a troll-latch. I thought it was a conversation... thats right big boy playground here... ZO6, ZR1..... Ferrari did not look so fast at Sebring now did they... hell even a Ford (DORF) beat one of their teams. ohh this is a reply...dont try to be so smug.... it dosent fit you, if your smart ass response from yesterday about the memo you missed I would not have replied.... you can check my vids out...bet you already have so u know i know.

[lelio98]

@threeoreight the last thing I want to do is check out anything you do, or anything that u do. Again you have failed to address the original reply. Instead you've ruffled your feathers, beat your chest and undoubtedly tussled your little troll mane. I am not being smug, you are just being a troll and apparently you don't like being called out. So jump in your, admittedly great, Z06 and have fun, but when you look in the mirror and see a little troll face don't be alarmed, it really is just you.

[threeoreight]

@lelio98 weirdo alert!!!  i addressed it,,,, whatever quit stalking weirdo... your a creeper.

[lelio98]

@threeoreight so let me see if I got this right... You trolled on a comment that I made to someone else and I am the stalker? Perhaps if you hadn't intruded I wouldn't have felt the need to call you out on your obvious trolling.

[lelio98]

@johnmcll9 and they lost to BMW! Ha! FAIL....

[threeoreight]

@johnmcll9 I agree... they all make some fine machines but the fact is dollar for dollar Chevrolet hands down!

[threeoreight]

@tjon901 they all turbo or supercharge... the fact is ZR1 are badazz off the showroom as well as the ZO6 which is not SC.,

[scribklu]

Agree with karto86. All of them run restrictors and all are "down on power".

[Karto86]

lol, these are gt class regulations, not "to be fair". other cars are under the same rules.

[bajabusta]

good stuff!