Dr. Steven Knope debates Andrew Weil on the merits of Integrative Medicine (Part II)

[VitalityMassage]

if the FDA tries to regulate supplements there will be a MAJOR scream across this country. Everyone will grow their own herbs and sell them privately. They cannot control herbs any more that they can control pot! lol Good luck FDA!

[livewithpassion2009]

Dr Weil is so right... we the public are ready for a change and a choice. It's about choices what is least toxic, least invasive, most self healing. Thank you Dr. Weil for being a leader and allowing others to follow your path. Good science!

[emerson24]

Allopathic medicine has it's purpose - to treat emergent critically ill patients. It's LIFE SAVING. Short of that, it is useless. It sustains life, it does not improve conditions. This whole notion of Complimentary is really BS, this is playing a subservient role to allopathy which really only treats 20-30% of all medical claims - emergent. Naturopathic medicine is preventative first and foremost, and then it should be used to ween patients off these toxic drugs once their critical dx stabilizes

[emerson24]

Dr. Dope continues to hammer this point about safety which implies herbs can be toxic, but then flips to the other side and makes a condescending dig that he can walk in and sprinkle herbs around the bed to insinuate that they are not efficacious. You can't have it both ways. He's trying to make point that Weil doesn't take care of critically ill patients. This isn't want Naturopathic care is. It's like arguing with a baseball player saying they aren't qualified to play football.

[ccalll1]

Dr. Weil has many critics simply because he's cutting into hospital doctors profits. Hospital doctors aren't interested in curing or making patient better, why? No profit in making patient better. So they experiment with dangerous prescription drugs that often make patient sicker instead of better.

[yourluckystella]

It seems to me that Dr Weil integrative medicine suggestions are there for people... who are interested to prevent the disease...or whos living with the disease and want to create the best possible conditions to cope it and lessen the effects. Its unnecessary critisism about his methods by a medical doctor. Right...it will adventually bring in less patients to hospital and less work for some doctors...but isnt that what all doctors want...patient without the disease.

[creedofwheat]

Dr. Andrew "Quack Quack Quack" Weil clearly considers quick profit to be more important than the well-being of his patients by selling dangerous and unfounded products. He is Tinkerbell spreading pixie-dust, but false hopes all they provide. He has harmed more patients than helped. He is a cancer to all aspects of the medical field... and he has no idea how to treat cancer.

[emerson24]

@creedofwheat Can you give me the statistics on how many deaths have arisen from Big Pharma drugs in comparison to herbal supplements? And can you then explain why Big Pharma's drugs are better with far greater number of deaths caused. Please tie into this reply, how it is good medicine to write toxic drugs to treat symptoms rather than find the cure and root of the problem. Also, explain to me why in Naturopathic tx don't work, why do people continue to pay out of pocket for this?

[emerson24]

@creedofwheat Can you give me the statistics on how many deaths have arisen from Big Pharma drugs in comparison to herbal supplements? And can you then explain why Big Pharma drugs are better with far greater number of deaths caused. Please tie into this reply, how it is good medicine to write toxic drugs to treat symptoms rather than find the cure and root of the problem. Also, explain to me why in Naturopathic tx don't work, why do people continue to pay out of pocket for this?

[emerson24]

@creedofwheat While you are at it, go watch The Bruzynski Movie and tell me how the FDA is helping people by stonewalling a doctor that has more than doubled the cure for cancer than the NIH, including the most aggressive brainstem tumor. Explain who humanity benefits from preventing big trials to be undertaken to have people with cancer be treated with DOCUMENTED cases of cured cancer. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he invented the cures in his own lab and owns the patent!

[emerson24]

@creedofwheat While you are at it, go watch The Bruzynski Movie and tell me how the FDA/Big Pharma is helping humanity by preventing a cure for cancer to be made public, for 30 years!!! Stop buying the lie the dude and actually read some medical journals of naturopathic medicine. Go shadow a naturopath and stop spewing nonsense. You really have no idea of how uneducated you sound. Basically, it's this: You are still arguing that the world is flat. Seriously, that's how you sound.

[Chudaaa]

@emerson24 I think he might have been joking.

[RichieKihlken]

@creedofwheat -the point is that there is a lack of awareness towards orthomolecular treatments amongst the medical community entirely (less than 6% of medical students even receive any formal training in nutrition) and if there is a guy out there like Weil trying to stir some attention that direction, I think its okay that he makes a little money from it. It's a natural part of the game and he has to compete too.

[networkedfreedom]

Weils methodology may (or may not) be erroneous, but Knope is an obnoxious bigot.

[mpkauffm]

Watch FOODMATTERS

[sjh7132]

Experience and an Experiment are not the same. Experience is subject to a person's perception and we remember successes more than failures. This is why everyone comes away from Vegas feeling like a winner. Experiments involve measurements, statistics, etc.

[inmyculo]

Dr. Weil = the homie

[surfmcgoogler]

I came here to see a medical debate and I find Will Farrell interviewing Santa Claus and James Blunt?!

[forevernatural11]

Integrative medicine is, undoubtedly, what patients who are educated want!

[Mommietoson]

Nope for Dr. Knope. Even if I wasn't aware of who Dr. Weil was, I'd be instantly turned off by Dr. "Nope"s eye rolling, condescending, arrogant retaliations. This guy is frothing at the mouth with jealousy. Why is a sports medicine doctor debating the world's foremost authority on integrative medicine? Fertility experts now incorporate acupuncture because Europe proved it improves preg rates. Just one example of how alternative medicine can indeed work. Nope, you are stuck on stupid.

[rockymountainwomen]

Knope engaged in sarcastic, dismissive, condescending, insulting behavior towards Dr. Weil. He even tried to minimize his credentials and experience. He implied that Dr. Weil is incapable of dealing with patients who are chronically ill or near death. Knope failed to present an argument for or in defense of evidence based medicine. He missed an opportunity to find common ground, such as the need for clinical trials to evaluate the effectiveness of alternative therapies. Pure arrogance!

[artashes]

As a long time RAW plant foodist, both these people Weil and Knope are shills for BIG Pharma, the corrupt AMA and American Cancer Society etc. Read Eustace Mullins excellent expose of these medical monopolies MURDER BY INJECTION, THE STORY OF THE MEDICAL CONSPIRACY AGAINST AMERICA (which BTW you will NOT find at Mainstream Bookstores, they're banned) also read the Brave Doctor Bob Mendelsohn MD "Confessions of a Medical Heretic" and his many other books. Find out about NATURAL HYGIENE & Learn

[Maygreen67]

Would you rather pay for health or pay for illness...people are paying a ton of money for illness...then again eat healthy to start with there's no point taking vitamins without eating healthy..just my opinion.

[cardinalinski]

EGO has no place in health care. "Dr. Knope is a dangerous guy because of that. CRITICAL CARE NEED is the result of long-term "standard" medical treatment foisted on the public by pharmaceutically paid (HUGE PROBABILITY) narcissists like Knope. These mini-man syndrome arrogant pharma-financed, non-read, mouthpieces can cast aspersions on anything, without any objective validation. Big Pharma, FDA, AMA, "SCIENTIFIC" cancer/etc. researchers and publicly funded mind-narrowing conclusions...

[twfoto]

Thank goodness for Dr. Weil and his guidance.

[lexaling]

Knope The Dope

[TheShawnModel]

Dr. Weil made valid points (several "conventional" treatments are not proven). In conventional medicine there are actually very few cures for the thousands of different chronic illnesses. Dr. Knope's name says it all.... he's just there acting like a child. I really, really respect Dr. Weil for taking action and experimenting himself AND understanding that different treatments work for different people.

[RootsNahNah]

Dr. Knope buries himself with the "there is no future for integrative medicine" line. What a K-Dope.

[tinky246]

because we should treat people before they get to be critically ill!! The future is and should be integrative and more importantly, PREVENTATIVE medicine.

[Boricuaso77789]

Dr. Dope got owned LoL

[drhagan99]

I wonder if Dr. Knope is aware that PROPERLY PRESCRIBED pharmacueticals kill over 250,000 people a year. One in four patients that enter the hospital do so because of these drugs. These drugs are CONTROLLED POISONS. Also government studies proved in the 1950's our soil is depleted of nutrientsas we have herbicided and pesticided our soil into sterility. So please explain to me how our foods are miraculously containing those nutrients that Dr. Knope claimes are there in a so called healthy diet.

[kendigjl]

History is full of failed miracle cures and a trip down the aisle of your local grocery store will tell you what the latest fad is. Nothing beats small portions of healthy foods, and moderate exercise.

[lizdunn69]

Go Dr. Weil!! Glad you are so well spoken :)

[Ilka118]

This interview illustrates the narrowness of doctors I've encountered in the past and made me choose to not go to a medical doctor unless I'm dealing with an emergency situation. Everything that has to do with chronic disease and degenerative diseases allopathic medicine doesn't have much to offer. While I have some reservation with the use of supplements, I see less danger in using them than the pharmaceuticals typically prescribed.

[Zavatari]

Dr. Knope fails to understand that the job of a Medical Doctor is to keep people healthy.

[TheMorbiousStone]

vitamins and earb are not drugs lolz Dr Knopic

[keaco73]

Dr Weil is about prevention.....Dr Knope only wants to know you when youre at the point of no return...he could careless about you're "health"

[PathofReason]

@keaco73 that's because he is a critical care doctor idiot. Even Dr. Weil agree's that critical care is not his area of expertise. We live in a country that convinces people that pills can melt away fat! And people buy it!

[Beanmaster73]

these guys are talking about two different things- preventive medicine vs critical care

[robotpanda77]

They make a mockery out of this by spending so little time on such a important issue. They prob spent more time driving to the studio than on the disucssion.

[orgamikrikit]

So Dr. Weil admits one year of residency...only. I do think "Dr. Weil" has a lot of good ideas, but he is no doctor; and he has no business second guessing real doctors who have worked the real medical trenches. Dr. Weil is just a breath away from a quack when he admits to have so little experience but speaks with so much authority...

[screenflicker1]

dr andrew weil himself is a fatass. Why doesn't he use some of his own 'intergrative medicine' and lose some fucking fat

[azbacnikorange]

Economic influence shouldn't influence medicine; science should! What if 90% of people in society wanted something dangerous to their health? Should we give it to them? If everyone wanted to methamphetamine because they claim it makes them work harder should we ignore the consequences just because people want it? Lunatic!

[mattability]

Kind of funny that this Dr. 'Nope's recreational interests are listed as credentials at the intro of this interview. If I were him, I'd be worried, too! He doesn't realize the medicine he practices is unaffordable and will bankrupt this nation. Poor guy.

[morganseer]

I don't think so. There are a lot of sincere physicians who are simply concerned about scams in the alternative medicine world. But he does forget that there are people out there who have not been helped by conventional medicine. Plus having alternatives forces the medical field to investigate natural substances that would never be studied by the pharmaceutical companies. Can you imagine Wyeth or Eli Lilly investing in studies of apple cider vinegar?

[dibassett]

Dr Knope is an antagonistic and misguided fool. Dr. Weil, you are intelligent, articulate, and on the right path. Keep up the great work and please don't be discouraged by opposition from fools.

[msjesjames]

poor dr knope. so sad

[msjesjames]

thank you dr weil

[karmanmechanic]

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than

having a frontal lobotomy!

[dupes6044]

Someone explain to me why cancer is not cured yet?

There are basically 3 treatments and 2 of them are known to cause cancer.1) Surgery cuts out cancer.

2)Radiation, 3) chemotherapy

Causes cancer

The doctors are not trying to cure their patients the MD's simply want to treat their patients and keep them coming back for more medications and doctors visits. It is a purely profit driven industry and it is severely broken because people believe that doctors are not driven by profit.

[Lanceshizzy]

@dupes6044 The Gerson Therapy is a powerful, natural treatment that boosts your body's own immune system to heal cancer

[dupes6044]

thanks I'll check it out.. I believe you have to make your body inhospitable for cancer to survive.

[y0ssar1an]

The statement "boosts your immune system" is scientifically meaningless and belies an ignorance of how the immune system actually works. The Gerson Therapy has been debunked by countless groups, including the American Cancer Society and Quackwatch.

[Lanceshizzy]

I do not know a whole alot about the Gerson method but last time I checked they have cured more people than the mainstream methods. Not only have they cured them but through their process they increase a person health overall without extreme daily pain.

[ivanmikhailov]

The data are pretty clear that pateints treated with radiation and chemo fair better than those not treated.  As a result there's been an overall decline in cancer mortality rates over the past decade. If a doctor is operating in a prepayment or capitation payment plan, the incentive is to SAVE treatment costs. Besides, you'd have to make the "profit" argument not just for cancer, but for every other disease that's now cost-controlled through advancing technology.

[dupes6044]

What about the person who wishes to live?

[Lanceshizzy]

Don't listen to these guys Radiation is not the answer. That is counter intuitive. Plus all kinds of studys are being done now proving that all these screenings and chemotherapy are extremely hurtful and in many cases cause cancer.

[y0ssar1an]

Lance, you are spreading dangerous medical misinformation. The survival rates for cancers have been steadily increasing for decades, due largely to improvements in chemo and radiation therapy. Cancer is caused by the body's own cells going haywire. Any successful cancer treatment must necessarily have some level of toxicity to human cells. And if you think radiation therapy is unpleasant, you should try letting tumors grow uncontrolled. Chemo hurts, but cancer hurts worse.

[Lanceshizzy]

Anyone who believes that should look up the chances of living past 5 yrs doing those programs its slim. Madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting diffirent results.

[y0ssar1an]

Lance, no offense, but I can tell from your spelling and grammar that you are not a doctor. The things you are saying are the exact opposite of the truth. The 5 year survival rate for many cancers is quite good and has been improving steadily.

[Lanceshizzy]

no offense, but personal attacks show your true colors. And do you really think people would change their lives because of one of my comments without first doing their own research and making a decision on their own.

You do not have enough faith in your fellow man.

[Lanceshizzy]

Some people may not benefit from the treatment but will not be spared the side-effects. Such people are usually put on palliative care.

[Lanceshizzy]

The treatment may not improve the overall prognosis of the cancer and may not necessarily increase the life span of a person.

Sometimes the quality of life detoriates when on palliative chemotherapy and if it is unlikley to improve the life span, one needs to ask if it is worth taking the treatment.

Some chemotherapy regimen can lead to death in a small group of patients and one needs to understand these grave consequences before starting the treatment.

Source(s): me dind ia. net

[ozwaldp]

@Lanceshizzy I contracted Burkitts Lymphoma in 1995 and was urged to begin several intensive rounds of chemotherapy without being informed of the possible lifelong consequences of this treatment. The cancerous tumor dissolved in 4 months, but my immune system was compromised for 6 more months. Needless to say, my life has been a living hell since and can no longer work because of organ and tissue damage. I was saved from dying, but at what cost?

[ivanmikhailov]

Your chances of living 5 years after chemo are better than your chances of living 5 years after foregoing chemo. This is why the mortality rate of breast cancer has decreased dramatically over the past 30 years. What was once an often fatal disease is now rarely so. The same is the case for many other cancers as well.

[Lanceshizzy]

Im sure breast cancer stats have nothing to do with improvements in surgery.

[ivanmikhailov]

Surgery does nothing for metastasis which is a serious problem in breast cancer. And you're getting a bit inconsistent, aren't you? I thought you said doctors wanted to keep their patients sick? Yet they perform successful surgeries...?

[Lanceshizzy]

I never said doctors were trying to keep people sick. I said that Gerson Method in my opinion is a better option for treating cancer than the 3 methods stated in the First comment.

[ivanmikhailov]

Sorry--I was reading someone else's comments. I looked it up on pubmed and couldn't find any scientific literature on it. I would guess that most of the evidence is anecdotal and subject to confirmation bias. If this therapy outperforms standard, science-based approaches, I'd expect to see a bit more verifiable evidence to back up this claim.

[230205]

weil is right, knope is living in the past, MD's suck at managing chronic illness

[y0ssar1an]

The very first words out of Weil's mouth are a complete bastardization of the philosophy of science. A fundamental principle of science is that your experiment is worthless if it can't be replicated. To put Weil's first-person, drug-induced, meditative experiences -- which cannot be replicated by anybody -- on the same level as a traditional scientific experiment is ludicrous.

[ivanmikhailov]

I agree completely, but I don't think Weil was putting that experience on the same level as other science. He made it clear he wouldn't even recommend it to his own patients or to anyone, for that matter. It was just something an interviewer latched on to in order to make a controversial story.

[fairbanksGMAN]

knope is creepy

[poyrkchp]

I have followed Dr Weil for years now, and he has never advocated that 'his' system is the only sytem...I think Dr Knope is very narrow minded as well as arrogant and does not give the respect to Dr Weil that he deserves...I must admit that what Dr Weil talked about in the early 90's, is new to others! Both conventional medicine and integrative medice must melliflously work together! Dr Weil is a true pioneer and Dr Knope will be proven wrong in the future!

[jkiene]

Good Medicine is about what works and is proven to work. If you have cancer, who do you want treating you? Ask the parents of a child saved by pharmaceuticals. Are they the answer to everything, no but I agree with Dr. Knope.

[LoveLiveSmile]

Aboriginal medicine has treatments for all kinds of stuff and most "mainstream" stuffs come from their plants just isolated then maufactured in a lab, sold to you in a little white pill I prefer the original version.

I don't really use suppliments but have followed Weils "optimal diet" suggestions for almost five years now. I feel better than ever with more energy than anyone I know (and I don't drink coffee) ....so I guess you could say I am an "experienced experiment!" and it is fantastic.

[y0ssar1an]

In most cases, pills are preferable to the plants themselves. Plants are chock-full of compounds that may or may not be healthy, may or may not inhibit the action of the medicinal compounds, and may or may not be present in an effective dosage. With herbal medicine, you have no idea the dosage you're getting. Every physiologically active molecule has a specific range from deficiency to toxicity (including water). Dosage is critical. That's why mainstream doctors don't prescribe herbal medicine.

[dupes6044]

They don't prescribe them because they are taught in med school that they are worthless and should not be explored. I am learning that med school is an elitist field. my daughter has been an A student through out her entire public school life. She is now three years into a pre med program at Umass Amherst. Her gpa is 3.89 and has come to the conclusion and realization that she will never be able to realize her dream of becoming a doctor because as she put it "I just don't have the connections"

[y0ssar1an]

They are taught that in med school because most herbal medicine either hasn't been proven to work or has been proven not to work. Also, medicine is definitely an elite field. I know some very very smart people with stellar resumes that were rejected the first time they applied, and I'm sure connections do play a big part in getting into med school. Nevertheless, I would encourage her to keep at it. It may take an extra year or two, but she'll get in.

[brahminykites]

I hope that your daughter continues to pursue her dreams as a physician- i share similar goals and can only hope that my future colleges possess intelligence, confidence, and passion for medicine - not bs connections. Our health care system will crumble without independent thinkers.

[HellWithPoverty]

That is right, Weil is neither a psychiatrist, psychologist, or a clinical social worker. He is a physician and a new age, "alternative medicine" quack.

Vitamin or herbal supplements are NOT an effective treatment for psychological disorders.

[cubachang]

then what is? meds? hahaha.. I have yet to see anyone I know been cured on meds.

[HellWithPoverty]

@cubachang

Who said medication is a cure?

[dupes6044]

@HellWithPoverty

Then why do people take meds? to get cured right? At least that is what the people taking them believe.

[HellWithPoverty]

People take psychiatric medications for symptom relief. There are no cures for mental disorders.

[HellWithPoverty]

@ Dupes6044

Psychiatric medications provide symptom relief. There are no cures for common mental disorders.

[y0ssar1an]

You just retreated off a cliff.

I say medication cures diseases because I am not a mentally retarded crack baby.

[y0ssar1an]

You don't know anybody that's had an infection treated by antibiotics? You don't know anyone who's had surgery and been given antibiotics and pain meds? You don't know anyone that's survived cancer by following a standard course of treatment (e.g. my stepmom)?

[HellWithPoverty]

@ y0ssar1an

I am afraid you do not understand the definition of a cure. There is no cure for cancer, there are only treatments.

[TrueAmerican14]

Knope is a dope. A lot of doctors use hospitalists and they are real doctors.

[ruuumble]

i found dr. knope condescending and smarmy and his underhanded barbs made me want to smash his face and kick him in the balls.

[jkiene]

Typical Liberal response, Classic. Thank you for that narcissistic and violent counterpoint. Your comment contributes greatly to the discussion

[ruuumble]

thank you...i am all those things and you are a foreskin

[tristramshandy3]

you think narcissism and violent rhetoric are a left wing thing?

go to ANY right wing radio video on u-tube and you will see angry, old white men spewing vicious, mindless hatred.

I'm not saying nobody on the left acts immaturely or like an ass- but to represent these traits as distinctively and exclusively liberal is just nonsense.

Have a great evening.

[maulhoik]

I could not agree more. I have watched the right get more vitriolic and anti- intellectual over the last twenty years. As someone who has voted 85% repub in my life it is sad to see the wingnuts take over. The left has gotten smarter and welcome dialog much more, in my observance.

[dadominateII]

dr knope's arrogance is typical of mainstream medical practicioners.

drugs and surgery are the only weapons in the mainstream arsenal, and it has become abundantly clear that these modalities alone cannot keep us healthy. america's health as a whole is atrocious, and we need to explore alternatives to drugs and surgery.

this in spite of the extreme arrogance and narrow-mindedness of many physicians such as dr. knope.

[SullyPDX]

In 30-50% of pharmaceutical drug tests the placebo works as well or better than the drug being tested.

[threadysparrow]

ummm..... no they don't actually

[compactdisk2]

There are two kinds of medicine. Medicine that works, and medicine that doesn't. Do some herbal meds work? Of course, but then researchers find the active chemicals, isolate them, and it becomes real medicine. Weil's claim that herbs are safer because they're diluted with plant matter is such nonsense. You don't know the exact dose, and if the isolated form is too strong, TAKE LESS OF IT. That's hardly complicated.

[cowy1]

Yeah, all those products Weil hacks on his website are totally natural, not produced in a factory and not sold because he wants to make a profit off of you.

Seriously, are you all dumb enough to believe that this guy is selling you alternative meds out of the goodness of his heart instead of trying to make some money?

[adamschin]

Wow. I'd rather be dead and sprinkled with herbs than alive and having to spend one second with this douche.

Dr. Weil is just too much of a gentlemen to shoot this guy down directly. How deadly are mainstream pharmaceuticals today? Ask Michael Jackson.

[compactdisk2]

Jackson's death has nothing to do with properly practiced mainstream medicine. Taking too much of anything is deadly, but what's really retarded is relying on medicine that has no evidence for its efficacy. There are a lot of morons who think that real medicine is a huge pharmaceutical, conspiracy. Things that actually have an effect are bound to have side effects. If you want to wave magical herbs around and chant, obviously it wont have any side effects, but it won't do a damn thing either.

[YankHoe]

I think the truth is between the two extremes.

[YankHoe]

Whoa . . . good point! For that matter . . . lots of celebrities have died from mainstream medicine including as mentioned in the first part of this debate, our first President.

[azbacnikorange]

@adamschin You are a fucking retard. Is that your best argument?

[ashwinisarah]

@adamschin Dr.Weil is a genius...In generations to come, people are going to be horrified at the things the medical fraternity has done in the name of TREATMENT. Dr. Weil operates from the philosophy of HEALING rather than treating....Knope is making a mistake in excluding a huge non invasive and nurturing pholosphy...!! Or maybe the pharma co's got him...!!!!

[LevelheadedFitness]

@adamschin What a fucking retarded debate stance. How deadly Pharma drugs are? Are you kidding me? At least they ACTUALLY WORK. Alternative treatments are no better than a placebo. How could he have shot him down? One doc actually cares about science and facts. The other is a complete dip shit and said that personal testimony counts as evidence...are you fucking retard?

[LoneDerangerer]

Knope charges exorbitant fees. more so than any other in arizona.

How is that in the patient's interest?

He has his own interests at heart.

[purpleraininspain]

take out the K, and you got Dr Nope, although Dr Null & Void might be just as appropos

"lets hope so" he says to FDA regulation of supplements in the future. A walking peronsification of FEAR, and IGNORANCE...the singular embodiment of the cancer of corporatism sending out its most deadly emissiaries to assinate the most respected, humble, honest, and broadly educated healer on the planet..Remember people this guy is not a human talking this is

PURE UNBRIDLED CORPORATE INTEREST

[cosmicflowindigo]

Dr. knope does not listen, which is clearly exhibited here. Dr. Knope....you claim you don't want to advocate alternative medicine to your patients because you don't have experience using them. How many of the drugs that you prescribe to your patients have you personally had experience taking. And have you ever seen any of Dr. Weil's Books, which are at the basic foundational level, about eating whole foods and fruits and vegetables. And herbs are plants aka vegetation. think about it :)

[leicbri]

What nonsense...the idea that you can only help heal people if you're a doctor who attends emergency situations! Dr Weil's argument clearly wins out...Knope argues against things that Weil didn't even say...

[GenericallySpecial]

Are you people on crack? Dr. Knope obviously won this debate. Dr. Weil is very interested in finding the maximum dose of alternative medicine to cause no harm instead of what the minimum dose to be beneficial. Whats the point of taking "safe" medicine if treats nothing? Dr. Knope is not arrogant, he's intelligent. Dr. Weil did a 1 year residency which is the equivalent of nothing in the medical field. Even primary care docs (Internal Med, Family prac) have to do a 3 year residency.

[EvilMapleSyrup]

Did you not listen? It looks like it...

Dr Weil's first priority is safety, obviously he's not going to recommend broccoli to a cancer patient, though that's how you implied it. If it's not safe, then that would contradict the whole entire point on taking medicine. Dr Weil recommends safe natural medicine that helps people, not safe natural medicine that can't even stand up for itself.

And labels don't constitute your knowledge.

[cowy1]

You are probably the only intelligent person on this thread. Seriously, the rest of these people are borderline retarded if they think Andrew Weil isn't trying to make as much money off of them as possible. Check out his website and all of the crap he sells, not a bit of which is "natural".

[bluemagicsmurf]

"the irony here is that i consider myself more natural than Dr weil"

ahahahahahahahahah

what an asssssssssssssssss

[Johnnybeak]

Edgar Cayce

[JadeQueen]

Dr. Knope is an arrogant and condescending prick, for whom I have no respect. Dr. Weil conducted himself with dignity throughout this debate, unlike Knope.  Knope represents an archaic blind-folded laboratory mentality!

[drcrutch]

I am a general surgeon and believe Dr. Weil is correct--integrative medicine is gaining ground because allopathic medicine has recruited no-personality, "junior-scientists", who can't communicate with patients. Unfortunately, this has eroded our profession. Dr. Knope is correct--integrative medicine is quackery. Dr. Weil does NOT take of critically ill patients or the side-effects of his medicine. He would NOT be licensed in most states because he ONLY did an internship (one-year).

[Dharmadoer]

Dr Knope has NO CLUE, and is ignorant as to how alternative medicine functions... ! DUH, why are SOOOO many people turning to alternative medicines and paying OUT OF POCKET?!!?!.... NOT ALL MEDICINE IS DEALING WITH CRITICALLY ILL PATIENTS... AND, LOOK HOW MANY YOU "Western Docs" KILL WITH PHARMACEUTICALS.... Knope is ridiculous... get a grip!

[spencerdev91]

there is no way in hell lsd is as dangerous as half the drugs of conventional medications prescribed today. dr. knope is a real whore for the drug industry

[Bilek33]

Absolutely right! This douche Knope is an obvious shill for big Pharma. Prescription drugs kill far more people every year than vitamins and supplements ever had or will,and yet these drugs meet FDA approval...WTF?!?!

[shauryaification]

@Bilek33 so, it means prescription drugs are useless ?

[smellyborat]

Dr Knope is so arrogant haha! Dr. Weil is a Harvard educated MD! I did some research on both, they are both geniuses but Knope is just an arrogant self righteous dr!

[hse123il]

I recommend Knope wear Weil's shoes and walk Weil's walk , then judege Weil.

[DoctorVanessa]

Dr. Knope is an obnoxious individual with an extremely condescending tone. It is obvious that he is very uneducated with regard to the importance and influence of integrative medicine, and the sweeping interest and support of integrative medicine across the world.

[bdr12259]

I love both of these practioners!

[bluemagicsmurf]

first of all Dr Weil always promotes organic fruits & vegetables first.

DR.Dope doesnt know anything about Dr Weil & he just showed the universe what an idiot he is for jumping to conclusions. How unscientific hehe.

Dr WEil is a genius and his knowlegde is broader than your arrogance & your ego combined....you just got schooled by the Doctor.

Dr weil operate on this fool I think he needs a labodomy

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@bluemagicsmurf I think that dr. knope won it