if u sent somebody a SMS & told him 2 leave his house ! and he didnt then u have the right 2 kill him ? is that an argument 2 kill the ppl of palestine ? any way where they should go ? they cant leave gaza ! they r living like dogs in jail ? so u r ignoring all the suffering ot the palestinains but u cant ignore the rockets of hamas ? hamas rockets r such Fireworks !
iran is killing anyone who disagrees with the government. iran is a dictatorship ruled by islamic fundamentalist law. iran kills anyone who does not obey islamic law.iran IS killing israeli children by funding hamas and hezbollah. iran said it wants to wipe israel off the map. them getting nukes is not gunna be good for anybody.
no its not truth ! theres Miolions in iran who disagrees with the goverment r they not alive ? any way im not supporting iran but ! israel is also killed israeli arabs cuz they made demonstrations ! israel killed even peace activists from all the world! israel is the one who is killing children with the helpf of usa ! israel is the one who have over than 300 neuclear waepons! iran didnt make any war since 300 years ! iran didnt say they want 2 destroy israel its a lie !
yes they are alive. why? because its not possible to kill millions of people in such a short space of time. israel has not killed peace activists. "Israel must be wiped off the map" - mahmoud amedinejad, iran leader
israel isnt on iranian maps. they dont recognise its right to exist. they DO want to destroy israel. israel has nuclear weopons. if israel wanted to destroy iran, it would have, because it can. iran does, as i just said, want to destroy israel, so lets not let them get nukes
theres also Lieberman the foreign minister of israel said that israel should attack Gaza with neuclear weapons & that israel should transfer the israeli arabs! supposed its a jewish land ! do u think u have the right 2 kill & trasnfer arabs out of jerusalim cuz its a jewish land ? germany was also a german land did have the nazis the right 2 take the jews out of their houses cuz its a german land ? NO cuz its also against humanity ! the same thing is doing israel 2 the palestinains its a FACT !
i disagree with the israeli foreign minister, as do lots of israelis. i am allowed to do that, wheras someone in iran could not openly critisize their government.
all the arabic countries disagree with iran , milions of iranins disagree with their goverement but they r also disagree that israel have the right 2 have neuclear ! so wt ? vanuno said the truth about israel israelis hating arabs & muslims more than the muslims hate the jews !
oh i can give u a list if u want ?
Rachel Corrie
thomas hurndall ....
and alot more but i think u r not from this earth u r from mars my friend ! just watch the videos of the israeli human rights orgna. in israel !
to be honest i dont think ANYBODY has the right to nuclear weopons.
rachel corrie wasent killed because she was a peace activist. she was killed because she stood in front of a bulldozer. the driver didnt actually realize she was there unfortunatly.
thomas hurndall was killed by accident while IDF were shooting near him as a detterant. these things happen in war sadly.
oh yes every peace activist who were there said that the idf killed her with cold blood! so stop ur fckin sutpid propganda that u heard in the first israeli chanel tv ! ok ? peace activists r not lairs they r not supporting any one but humanity ! israel is destorying houses of palestinains do u think they have no right 2 fight 4 their freedom ? if i were an palestinain i will also fight like they do ! if u think no one have the right 2 have this weapons then u made just 300 of them LOL!
no, i didnt make 300 of them. somebody in the israeli government did. i disagree with that. in iran, thats a criminal offence. fight for their freedom? what, by deliberatly trying to kill as many civilians as possible?! fighting is against soldiers, terror is against civilians.
yes but before u look at the iranian neuclear program look at ur own ! im also against any neuclear weapon ! but i cant said iran has no right 2 have it but when its about israel should i close my eyes ? terror is killing civilians ! and i said " ur Terror is much bigger than the terror of hamas" so im against that hamas kill israeli civilians ! cuz they were born there they have nothing 2 do with the policy of israel ! but look at the israeli settlers they r realy nazis !
i personaly agree that israel shouldnt have nuclear weopons. last time i looked, wanting to build a new balcony or shopping mall or even a town didnt make you a nazi.
oh if u think that israel has not killed peace activist then u have no idea wt israel did & wt israel is doing right now ! the only thing that the palestinians r doing is firing rockets such Fireworks ! but y dont u look at the facts & c wt the illegal things that israel is doing ? transfering innocent ppl , using illegal waepons against civilians , illegal occupation of 1967, building illegal setlements on palestinian lands ! should i tell u more ?
building ileagal settlements on palestinian land? oh sorry, are we not aloowed to live here? no-one else was otherwise we wouldnt have to build settlements would we? ileagal occupation of 67 happend because the arab government tryed to kill us all and destroy our country, why is that not considerd a crime? firing fireworks? they are NOT fireworks or homemade, and the point is to kill our children.
read the book of illan pappe learn about ur bloody history not about the israeli propaganda history! israel transferd 800,000 innocent palestinian families and those families had no weapons! destoryied over 300 palestinian villieges? if u want 2 compare the terror of hamas with ur terror is like 2 compare the holocaust with Al-Nakba! shame on u! with stones could kill more israelis than the stupid rockets of hamas! so stop ur propganda israel started the war its a fact!
hamas tryed to kill israeli civilians for 8 years. id say thats a declaration of war! id like to see you throw a stone from gaza into sderot! almost a million jews were made refugees and had their villiages destroyed by arab countrys in 1948. why? because they were jews! why does no one critisize arab governments for not letting them back in! the IDF is millitaryly much better than hamas. that does not make it moraly inferior.
yes hamas tried to kill civilians im not supporting hamas im supporting humanity even in israel just like any human organisiation in israel just like betselem! killing civilians making more hate! both of u have enough Hate , but do u think in the 8 years israel were an angel? israel killed civilians in gaza&westbank in this 8 years more than any hamas rockets did ! how can u deny this fact? ur fckin occupying,controlling&Blockading the land of 1967 since 60 years is that not a declaration of war
no its a lie , no one transfered jews ! its a lie ! read ur history not ur israeli propganda read any book of Felicia Langer or ilan pappe or gideon levy! r they also supporter of hamas ? or supporter of truth & humantiy ? the jews lived 3000 years with arabs with no any problem-> y now ? israel transferd 800,000 innocent palestinian families destroyied over 300 villiges 2 delete the history of palestine how can u deny it ? war its betwen armies so y did israel transferd innocent ppl ?
should i show u some videos of iraqi jews who live in israel & who said that zionists-organisation forced them 2 leave the arabic country 2 make them move 2 palestine (of course 2 build a jewish state )
wt a Coincidence ? jews & arabs lived since 3000 years together and suddenly just in 1948 the arabs started 2 attack jews ? y they didnt attack jews before 1000 years ? if the arabs transfered jews they will help them 2 build their own country in palestine the arabs didnt want that !
most palestinians that left israel in 1948 did so because arab leaders told them that they should leave and return after all the jews had been exterminated.
they didnt left israel israel forced them 2 leave ! y the jews now who left geramny while WWII r having the right 2 go back 2 germany 2 take every thing back and Extra $ ? only the jews r human ? & the palestinians not ? y they cant go back 2 their homes ? y a jew has the right 2 go back 2 berlin while a palestinain have no right 2 go back 2 haifa ? dont u c how racist u r ? fck the arabic leaders we r talking here about humanity ! palestinians hate arabic leaders more than jews !
so if u have neuclear waepons& u can destroy iran y r u afraid ? iran didnt say they want 2 wipe israel of the map they said israel should go out of the history pages becuz of their war crimes! arafat recognized israel as state israel didnt recognize palestine as state thats wt happend in oslo can u deny it? so wake up its not about hate yes theres some arabs who want 2 destory israel,theres some jews who want 2 destroy all arabic countries!but the fact is who is trying 2 destroy who? its israel
israel is trying to destroy arab countrys? you yourself said that israel has 300 nukes. thats enough to destroy the WHOLE WORLD let alone all the arab countrys. we dont nuke iran because we dont want to, its as simple as that. no, they did say they wanted to wipe israel off the map. this is common knoledge.
y do u have such alot of neuclear waepons? do u want 2 destroy all the world? and iran has no right 2 have 1 neuclear!dont be stupid no one can destroy israel! israel is making propganda 2 let the ppl stop watching them by killing palestinians! ofcourse according 2 the UN& 2 USA this settlements r illegal,israel is transfering palestinains destroying their houses every land that israel took after 67 is illegal ! where should the palestinians live? on mars?u have 80% of the land! do u want more?
no one can destroy israel. yes, because no one that hates us has nuclear weopons yet. no, we obviously dont want to destroy the world. like with most countrys, our nukes are a detterant, altough personally i think we should get rid of them. israel builts settlements. the clue is in the world BUILD. if they were built on places where palestinians were living, they wouldnt have to build them.
ok do u think china and usa r loving each other or russia and usa r loving each other ? no but they respecting each other , Y ? cuz they now they r all strong countries a war could b catastrophic! pakistan has neuclear weapons y dont they attack israel ? cuz they know that israel has also neuclear , do u think if iraq did have neuclear just like usa then there will be a war no ! read some investigiton from the UN about israel (transfering palestinains out of jerusalim , destroying houses ....)
israel has destroyed almost as many jewish houses in jerusalem as palestinian houses. why? because they are ileagaly built. every country in the world destroys ileagaly built houses.
OMG , stop this shit israel didnt destroyied any jewish house stop this shit ok ? dont play the rollle of an angel israel is fckin racist country every one who was in east jerusalim knows that ! every peace activist knows that ! israel is not giving the palestinians in jerusalim 2 build their houses ! 90% of the settlements have no permission from the israeli gov. & u r keeping building illegaly according 2 the israeli law & according 2 the international law ! im not stupid my friend so stop it
on the one hand settlements are often ileagal but on the other hand their not actually harming anyone by building a house. no, israel has demolished jewish homes that were built ileagaly. in my opinion israel should give the palestinians in east jerusalem more room to build their houses. but israel isnt rascist.
they r not harming any 1 ? u r building in the 1967 land according 2 the international law they r illegal , u r stealing the lands of palestinains destroying their houses their farms & stealing their olive trees is that not harming any1? but the houses of east jerusalim that were built before the israel state was built is harming every one ? if u r giving jews the right 2 build their houses but u r not givin the same right 2 palestinians & israeli arabs ! is that not racist ? then wt is racism?
ofcourse israel is destorying settlers r attacking palestinians ! burning their farms ! where do u live my friend ? on mars or on earth ? its easy 2 c how uneducated u r about this conflict & how poor is ur knowledge about the suffering of palestinains! i know its not ur fault ! the israeli media that u listen 2 is responsible 4 ur Hate .
and any way im not supporting iran im against an islamic regiem ! but im saying the truth ! iran is not making war crimes ! israel is making war crimes israel is using illegal weapons israel is using palestinians as human shield! i didnt invented that ! betselem show us the truth! r iran supporting betselem , dont think so ! so u dont need 2 be a jew or muslim or christ 2 c the truth u need just 2 be a human being just like any peace activst! the palestinians r the ones who r suffering not u !
israel is using palestinians as human sheilds? as opposed to hamas using palestinians as human sheilds? there are many massive peace rallys in israel. if someone held a peace rally in gaza, hamas, who the palestinians elected as their government, would kill them. the hamas charter says that they want to exterminate the jews. israel has been bombarded for 8 years with rockets before reacting. who are the peaceful ones?
i said i didnt invented that ! ask any peace activist even the jewish peace activists ask any human rights organisation even the israeli organisations they will tell u the truth y ? cuz they support hamas ? No cuz the r supporting humantiy ,humantiy has nothig 2 do with polciy or relegion! understand that ! i dont care wt every arab say! theres also jews who want 2 destroy israel theres also jews who want 2 destroy every single arabic country! we r not talking about hate but about facts&behavior
heheheeh stupid propaganda ,so palestine and lebanon should stop killing the children of israel ? hehehehe WHO R killing childrens? israel, who r making Terror is israel, dont talk in the name of west and in the name of other countries, u r just a zionist.We as christian r supporting and will support the truth and the humanity for ever,we will support palestine and lebanon for ever.
the one who should stop the rockets and killing childrens is israel . who r u to speak in the name of palestinian and lebanon ! the ppl voted for hamas and hizballa so shut up .
if some one kidnapped a building in telaviv full with jewish children israel will not bomb the building and tell the families of this jewish children : "the kidnapper were hiding behind them" do u know u israel r not gonna do somthing like that ? cuz this children r jews ! if the were arab children israel will kill them
yes the same thing u should say 2 the israeli goveremnt that u voted 2
and y dont ur millitary force try 2 do the same in gaza? if u say that hamas r hiding behind civilians then y dont u try 2 save the civilians? cuz they r arabs civilians do u think u have the right 2 kill them? but if they were jewish civilans in telaviv then u think u have 2 save them? dont u c how racist u r? r u understanding wt r u writing ? any way hamas didnt hide behind civilians every one said that except ur goverment ! the israeli human rights org. did also dissagree with u & ur gov.
our millitary force did the same in gaza. 14 israeli soldirers died because israel went house to house rather than just bombing the place down. hamas do hide behind civilians, they themsleves admited that!
do u know wt shut the fck up ! ur a big lair just like ur goveremnt ! israel made war crimes like no other! & u r fckin denying it ? who they themselves admited that? wtf r u talking about how old r u 5? no one said that every investigations showed us that the same shit said israel about lebanon,hizbualla told his ppl 2 leave the cities but israel destroyed every street in lebanon so no one can leave,not civilians not animals ! so try 2 wake up drink 5 liter coffe maybe then u will open ur eyes
israel sent thousands of texts, phone calls, dropped leaflets to people in gaza. ummm the UN said that hamas hide behind civilians, so did all reporters who were there!
no one said that , never ! it was just the israeli media & israeli goverment who said that hamas was hiding behind civilains the only crime that hamas did is firing rockets at israeli civilians ! israel sent shit 2 gaza do u know that ? gaza is a big jail ! u r not making any favour if u give the caught in jail some food ! they r in jail dont u understand that ! my last device 4 u is 2 read the books of Felicia langer an israeli jewish woman who i respect & then u will understand the conflict
ciao i got 2 go was nice 2 talk 2 u , i think u should stop thinking like an israeli , u just have 2 try 2 think like an human being with no Bias! dont believe ur israeli media ! they r laing ! i wish i moved some humanity in u ! i know that israelis have also Heart like any one but they should try 2 use it ! so stop ur brainwashing & liste 2 other ppl ! only then israel will stop 2 be a racist country !
the israeli media probably is very biased, but the media in large parts of the world is extreamly anti-semitic. any civilian deaths of palestinians are a huge tradgedy, and its true that israel could have done better in cast lead. but hamas have been killing israeli citizens just because they are jews, and a long as jews are killed for being jews, israel will be at war.
r the german media anti-semitic? CNN,BBC? the korean TV hate also jews? no i told u its not about relegion the ppl in korea dont even know wt judism is ! they r just supporting humanity! no one care if u r a jew or muslim or any thing else!so stop this blind hate in u!no hamas is not killing ppl just becuz they r jews hamas r fighting against occupation& when they r attacking israeli civilians im against it ! but wt hamas did is 1% of wt israel did! israel r killing children cuz they r arabs
israel is killing children because of hamas getting us too. they attack us from civilian areas so when we fight back palestinian civilians will die and they get a PR boost. article 7 of the hamas charter calls for genocide against all jews. fighting occupation? those israeli children, how dare they be born in israel, they are occuying our land, lets kill them.
man stop this shit plz! dont make of ur self an angel!if hamas killed jewish children then they r terrorists but if u killed 10 times more children then u r not terrorists? that is ur problem u think u r an angel and they r Evil! its not like the movies gaza is a jail theres no War field like"lord of the rings"!as i said im against killing civilians thats y i dont support hamas i support the humanity in palestine&if israel keep 2 be racist all palestine will be like hamas cant u understand this?
i do understand your point and i think that on the one hand israel should intergrate palestinians into israeli soceity more, but on the other hand extreamists dont need a reason to hate. its probably true that israel has killed 10 times more children and i think we should change our millitary tactics to adapt to urban enviroments, which is one of our failings, but hamas have DELIBERATLY killed children and DELIBERATLY caused palestinian children killed in gaza.
ok so this fckin settlers in hebron&other palestinain cities r not extremists! change ur tactics? israel should pay for this war crimes not only 4 killing palestinans but also 4 making them suffering also in westbank& jeruslaim!so plz dont try 2 be an angel israel is not an angel! understand that the wolrd has nothing against jews its just against the racist policy of israel?so who r u 2 decide that hamas killed DELIBERATLY but israe not?all investigaions all human rights org. Says the contrary!
"Hamas should end its attacks on political opponents and suspected collaborators in Gaza, which have killed at least 32 Palestinians and maimed several dozen more during and since the recent Israeli military offensive, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today. Human Rights Watch called on Hamas authorities in Gaza to hold those responsible accountable."
"A U.S.-based human rights group on Thursday rejected a Hamas claim that it did not target civilians during last year's war"
hams should stop the attack! all the things that israel is doing agianst palestinians should not stop ? only the stupid rockets of hamas? ofcourse when war happen both side should stop firing but exuse me r u calling the rockets of hamas like ur rockets? y dont u c wt the human rights org. said about israel they said maybe 1000 things that israel should stop it! r u keep ignoring ur crimes ?
the extremists jews in israel r like the extremists muslims in afghanistan! & some jews told me " if arabs make problems in jerusalim they should leave" but no one is making problems more than the extremist jews in jerusalim y israel is not doing any thing against them! OMG again the palestinian chosed hamas cuz they saw that they r keep suffering dont care if they voted 2 abas or hamas but the deference is that hamas is fighting a lil bit not like abas !
oh now is abas ur friend?the settlers r not?did u c wt the settlers r doing 2 the palestinians?NO cuz u live in 5 stars hotel in telaviv u dont care about the truth! go& c wt happend 2 the palestinians under controll of ur army&ur settlers! wt peace do u want u r not answering me? abas want 2 stop the settlemnts&2 have east jerusalim if u make peace with abas then hamas will shut up!the only thing that made hamas stronger is that israel is ignroing peace the palestinains given up voted 2 hamas
what are the settlers doing then? palestinians arnt controlled by army and settlers, west bank is ruled by fatah, gaza is ruled by hamas, everywhere else is ruled by israeli government like rest of country.
the palestinians cant vote for an organisation that wants to kill all jews and then blame the jews for it!
Oh My God ! u have no idea israel is controlling every thing ! the air the water & the land! israel is against a palestinian state israel want 2 keep the palestinian in jail without rights! israel is fckin occupying westbank & gaza & not respecte the bordering of 1967 ! is that so hard 2 understand? ok jews voted 2 lieberman who want 2 use neuclear waepons agianst gaza! do the ppl of gaza have the right 2 kill israelis becuz the voted 2 liebreman or sharon who made war crimes like no one?
the 2 largest political partys in israel have both said they are in favour of a palestinian state, even though not immediatly becuase that would just make more war. anybody- palestinians or not- in jail without fail trial should be formally charged or released- i already told you i disagree with isreals policy in that. israel is not occupying gaza. there is not a single israeli in gaza. israel is occupying the west bank is that means building a town.
so if i was a palestinian & ur army kill my family do i have the right 2 kill israeli civilians or israeli children ? No so dont care if the ppl voted 2 hamas its their own choice u have no right 2 kill them if u dont like hamas its ur problem! the ppl have no more Confidence from Fatah or israel thats y they chosed hamas! its easy 2 understand fatah couldnt make any peace with israel the palestinian know now israel is ignoring peace so they should fight 2 get freedom
OMG palestinians r ignoring peace?wt peace do u want ? u r stealing their land ,u r not stoping buidling illegaly settlements on the land of 1967! shame on u where should they live in jail like gaza? if u were an palestinian u will not take this nego. until israel stop their Terror against land&humanity watch this 3 videos :
1-Nobel Peace Prize Winner shot by Israeli army
2-Occupation 101 Part 1
3-Bil'in Habibti - Bil'in My Love (teaser)
and this last video is in hebrew u will understand !
we want them to accept that we too have the right to live their. we cant make peace if their goal is to drive us all from our homes. israel HAS any contiues to negotiate peace with fatah, and west bank is much better place than gaza. this is because we cant make peace with an organisation that dosent recognise our right to exist.
oh so u kill them 2 make them accept u have the right 2 live there ? so by killing them r u accepting their right 2 live ? r u shameless ! ofcourse u r ! no one have the goal 2 destroy israel ! israel have the goad 2 ignore peace by stealing their lands occupying their land transfering them those r the facts! oh now is westbank better! the ppl in westbank & east jeruslaim r suffering just like the ppl of gaza! did watched the videos that i gived u about bilin city ?
they did accept u ! wt an idiot ! Arafat did accept israel as a state ! did israel accept palestine as a state ? no they keep ignoring the palestinian right thats y the make a 2 Intifada ! its their right 2 fight 4 their land & their freedom & their Rights ! and hamas also said we would accept a state on the land of 1967 ! israel is not accepting that ! israel is ignoring even international law ! palestinians r not ! plz if u r stupid so much dont write me back until u go & educate ur self !
"Neither the liberation of the Gaza Strip nor the liberation of the West Bank or even Jerusalem will suffice us. Hamas will pursue the armed struggle until the liberation of all our lands. We don't recognize the state of Israel or its right to hold onto one inch of Palestine. Palestine is an Islamic land belonging to all the Muslims."
-Dr. Mahmud al-Zahar, Hamas leader in Gaza, The Jerusalem Post, August 18, 2005
i saw meshael in the news in the TV with my both eyes when he said hamas will accept a palestinian land on 67 ! so any way i dont accept with hamas ! but the fact is not wt this ppl said ! israel is not making peace with any one not even with arafat! u killed him ! u killed Rabin & talking about peace ? r hamas now the problem 4 u? r u afraid from the kasam rockets ? Lieberman said israel should use Neuclear weapon? is that ur peace ? ofcourse hamas hate u & u hate hamas ! but its not about hate
one extreamist killed rabin. mentioning rabin, hes an example of an israeli leader who gave his life for peace. in answer to your question, yes, we are afraid of the kassam rockets because they kill people. i already told you i disagree with lieberman and so does most of israel.you saw the leader of a group that kils anyone who disagrees with it and takes pleasure in murdering children say something? must be true then.
ppl voted 2 the nazis ? the nazis came 2 the goverment not with pure democracy only with Tricks ! didnt u learn history ? any way ! ppl voted hamas , ppl voted lieberman ! lieberman is more Worse than any hamas member !anyway the palestinians have no right 2 kill any israeli civilians dont care if they voted 2 lieberman or not ! & u have no right 2 kill any palestinian if he voted 2 hamas !(Abraham yehoshua Haaretz " Today, we kill their children, to save many of tomorrow") is that ur Moral ?
yes some times ppl be radical& chose a radikal 1 like Lieberman do any 1 have the right 2 kill the ppl who voted 2 lieberman? NO ! but forget hamas ! the ppl voted 4 hamas becuz they saw that israel will keep ingoring peace 4 ever ! so they thought "if israel didnt make peace with arafat with who would israel will made peace ? so we should fight 4 our land & our rights , cuz israelis r voting the whole time 2 radicals & criminals like sharon... so we will vote also 2 hamas" its easy 2 understand
LOL its a big lie ! this was a shit on paper ! 97% of the land ! if israel ready 2 give the palestinains 97% of the land there will be peace since years ago ! where did read this shit in Haaretz ? palestinians want the borders of 67 with east jerusalim , israel is keeping building settlements ignoring their rights stealing their land & their trees ! did ever u c how palestine looks like? its looks like small points on the israelian maps! in this way they will never be able 2 build a state!
i am getting this from the saudi representative at the israel/palestinian peace talks. and seeing as saudi dosent recognise israels right to exist, i doubt he is bias towards israel.
wt saudi thing ? who r talking about saudis ? any way saudia offerd israel 2 make peace with palestinian give them east jerusalim & the borders of 67 and 31 islamic country will regonize israel ? did israel accept no ? israel want 2 waist time with more negotiation just like oslo 2 build more settlements on palestinain land ! about wt do u want 2 make negotiation ? u know wt the palestinain want u can accept or reject so stop playing like a kid !
there was a saudi guy at olso. he was a saudi prince or something. he said that arafat made a massive mistake to not take that offer. i already told you a MILLION times, i dont think israel sohuld be building settlements.
LOL some saudi this wt ur Media told u read some books of Finkelstein a jewish man who can tell u the truth about oslo arafat should reject oslo but he did accept it was wrong 2 recognize israel as state while israe in oslo didnt recognize palestine as state but arafat as a leader of westbank LOL ! again 2 the setlements its not about Thinking if its right or wrong its about FCkin FACTS ! understand ? israel is keep destorying the palestinain lands where the fck should they live ?
if israel was a democratic state ! y only jews have the right 2 fly from Ethupia & come 2 israel while a palestinian 60 years ago who lived in haifa ,who have the Keys of his house until now has no right 2 go back? its like france gonna say "only christian french who fled during the WWII have the right 2 go back 2 france, jewish french have no right 2 go back becuz its the home land only of christian french"(its like the land of israel jews)! is that not racist ?is that not a Discrimination ?
why do people have such a problem with the wall? there are walls that seperate people of differant religions to prevent violance all over the world! scotland does it, northen ireland does it, so do lots of other countrys!
dont u c the fckin suffering of palestinains ? wt a fckin shameless ? u can ignore all this suffering but u cant ignore the kasam rockets ? the wall is more dangeros that mio. of kasam rockets ! theres no wal making any 1 suffering in the world ! r the irish suffering from any wall ? NO ! if u want 2 make peace u should build a bridge not a wall ! the wall & the settlements r not allowing 2 build a palestinian state in the future ? is that the peace u want ? sure they will fight against it
dont be stupid , they wana destroy israel with the kasam rockets oh yes ! the massacre in gaza that u did showed us who wana 2 destroy who ! wt an stupid person r u ? r u living ur phantasy world ? dont u c the facts ? isreal is destorying the palestinian land ! not hamas is destroying israel ! u cant win against hamas if u killed humanity there ! they will support hamas more and more ! cant u understand that ?
just about the entire arab world has expresed its desire to destroy israel. just because hamas dont have as good a millitary as israel it dosent make them morally right. i can understand your last point but how else are we supposed to deal with maniacs other than fighting them?
if china transferd tibetian is that giving u the right 2 transfer & kill palestinians ? wt an stupid person r u ? if ur someone kill his neighbor , is that giving u the right 2 kill ur neighbor ? & then if go 2 trail u said looks every body killes everybody so im not guilty ? LOL is that ur humanity ? israel is ignoring peace before hamas so shut the fck up! hamas didnt make any intifada the westbank did ? y ? cuz israel is ignoring peace not hamas or any palestinian
ofcourse i have sympathy with the jews like every 1 but i dont think that the palestinians & the arabs which lived the whole time in peace with jews r responsible 4 any suffering of jews ! the palestinians didnt transfer jews out of palestine! i think the land belong 2 both side palestinians & jews just like in the history! so palestinains & jews should share the land! its an holy land 4 u & 4 them! so y r u transfering them? 2 make a jewish majority ? its like 2 make white majority in nyc
2 state solutution would be good but one non-jewish state would be bad. its not rascism its nationalism, the establishment of a national homeland for the jewish people. we are not a race, so how can it be rascist?
2 state solution 4 all citizens ! no jewish state no islamic state ! or 1 state solution just like Swissland , look at swiss land theres italina france & german ppl who live all together with equal rights ! its the only way 2 make ur area democratic ! y should an muslim or christian arab have flag with David star ? y dont u put a cross & half-moon if its a state 4 all citizens & democratic as u say!
the irish flag has orange to represent protastants, green to represent chatholics and white for peace between them. according to your logic jews, muslims or any non-christians shouldnt have to live under that flag. everybody lives together in israel with equal rights. all the european flags with crosses on them dont have stars of david on them, that dosent make them rascist against jews!
what your saying is like asking the french and germans to combine into one big country. have you thought that mabye they like the idea of self determination and national identity?
racisim is a way of Discrimination!if u prefer some race on another u will b racist! if u prefer some ppl on other becuz of their relegion this will b also racist,if u prefer some nation on another its will b also racist!if u think that ur blood is more worth than another its will b also racist!if some state prefer blacks than white ppl its will be racist country,&if israel prefer ppl with jewish roots more than arabic roots its will b aslo racist
the american could say , 'well we prefer the white nation on the african nation how its can be racist? " the only way 2 be democratic and that every 1 have the same rights is 2 build a land 4 all citizens the italians have the right 2 stay in swiss just like german & french? do u c any problem in swiss? its democracy ! israel is not democratic! if u shoot an arab Demonstrator & dont shoot a jewish then ofcourse u r racist ! if u transfer palestinians out of jerusalim 2 bring jews u r also racist
OMG , a nation ? do u mean the jew from india or Philipene or Etupia have more right 2 live on this land more than the israeli arab or the palestinian ? is that wt u mean ? muslims r also a nation with defrent races? do the muslims think that the pakistanis have or chinese muslims have the right live in this land more than the palestinains ? if usa were a christian land & the jew will sufer in usa the jews will also fight 4 their rights !
If Germany said :" we prefer the ppl of west germany more than the ppl of east Germany " they have the same race! they r all German east or west ! but its will still racist? or not? its will stay a Discrimination! USA can call her self the home land of Atheism ! atheism have not 1 race! its can be black atheists or white or chinese athiests .. so wt about the bodists american or christian or jew or muslim americans ? would they accept that?NO! Democractic state is a state 4 every one israel not
so the problem of peace is not hamas! its ISRAEL ! yes hamas hate israel!israel hate hamas! its not about hate its about fact the most important fact is "ISRAEL IS OCCUPYING PALESTINE & BUILDING SETTELEMTNS" i know that u against that but this will not change any thing,but u should accept that israel is the one who is ignoring peace not palestinains! when israel keep ignroing the palestinian rights wt do except from them ? not 2 fire rockets or 2 make intifada ? read some book of Felicia langer
there are no israeli settlements in gaza. hamas dont attack settlers. they are against israel, its civilians, and all jews. how is israel supposed to make peace with a group that speaks about exterminating all jews? thats not me thinking as an israeli or jew, that me thinking just as a human.
An israeli jewish Dr said 2 me " when those arabic doctors r living & working in germany or italy or some where else but not israel they will be the best doctors! they will make a gr8 career but in israel they have no chance! " -> its just a little view of the israeli Racism & Discrimination against arabs , theres alot more example 4 ur racism !
when the state rejected 2 bring 1 police man in jail after killing 13 israeli arabs Demonst. is that not racist country ? dosnt that remind u about the black in usa during the 50-70's ? no one white police man was going 2 jail after killing balcks Demonst.! transfering them out of jerusalim ! destroying their houses becuz they have no approval ! while hounders of settlements have no approval & no one destroy them! building houses only 4 jews is that not like building houses only 4 white ppl ?
its not to do with race! settlements are wrong because west bank is effectivly another country and buiding settlemants is counter productive for peace.
cant u understand this shit ? the settlements is destorying the palestinain land ! theres no chance 2 build a palestinain land ? wt should the palestinain do look at u killing them transfering them , stealing their lands killing peace activists ! and if the do something against it like in Bilin then they r terrorists ? ok as a peace activst i will proud if israel call me a terrorist !
19 peace activists from england r in the in israeli jail? do u know y? the made a peacfully Demo. agains the wall , against transfering palestinains from east jerusalim! against throwing them 2 the streets, against the attacks of settlers in Hebron, do u know how many children under 14 years old r in the israeli jails cuz they try 2 protect their houses by throwing stones at soldiers ? if some one try 2 take me out of my home i will do the same , u will do the same!
if palestinians in gaza or west bank use their houses for hiding weapons they will use to kill israelis, they really cant complain when israel tears down the houses. if they vote for hamas who want to kill every israeli and every jew, they cant complain when israel attacks hamas and gaza becomes a war zone. palestinians in east jerusalem build homes ileagaly then complain it gets knocked down! the same would happen to jews who built ileagaly! and does in west jerusalem
OMG again 2 the stupid stories that israel said, hiding weapons? do u know wt goldstone said? "im asking the israelis 2 come 2 gaza let us together take the Debris & if u find some weapons under the Debris then u r right" but every fckin Investigation, every Camera show us that there was no weapons!& if there was waepons and there were some children there u have no right 2 bomb this house! its fckin international law! understand! israel destoryid over 4000 houses? they all had weapons? R U GOD ?
goldstone sentanced a 14 yr old black boy to over 10years in prison for possesing a recording of a white mans voice while working for the apartied regime!
this is a stupid story was made by ur stuid israeli propaganda! its never happend ! goldstone is calling him self even a zionist jew! but he cant close his eyes when he c the war crimes of israel! just like any human being who have some feeling , im sorry u r not an human being if u cant c the truth & have some feeling ! u r the reason 4 the suffering of palestinians even before hamas! who made the 2 intifada ? was not hamas ! but all the palestinians against the injustice & against ur crimes
one fact u forget israel is occupying palestine not palestine is occupying israel , if some alians came 2 telaviv and occupy telaviv! & u attack them is that not a resistance ? and if they attack u is that not a war crime ? LOL where is ur logic ! those ppl r fighting 4 their freedom wt r u fighting 4 ? israel is trying 2 keep palestinians under their control thats y israel is attacking palestinains !
the intifada was allways against Soldiers, but wt did ur soldiers ? they killed ppl they killed innocent Demonst., & u cry when some stupid palestinian kill also an innocent israeli ? blame ur goverment no one kill so much innocent ppl as ur goverment not even hamas ! so call ur goverment a terrorist goverment before calling hamas !
u have ur freedom u have ur country ! so wt do u want from them ? they have no freedoom they have no country , israel is controling them stealing over 80% of the water of westbank ! read the book of Felica langer and shut up u have no idea wt ur country is doing 2 palestinains ! ofcourse they will fight with every thing 2 get their rights & freedom ! with stones & rocekts ! im against if it was against israeli civilians, it but evey 1 can understand it !
any arabs who are israeli citizen, of which there are millions, have full rights and are treated the same as jewish citizens by the govrenment. israeli policy in the west bank is wrong in my opinion but its not racist.
shut th fck up,they r not treated the same as jews by ur racist goverment!we saw the same treated in 10/2000 when israel killed 13 israeli arabs with cold blood!
we saw ur democracy when israel killed there own israeli arabs citizens in kfar-Kasem israel killed 50 israeli arabs&paid 1 Lera 2 each family!is that humanity?would u accept 6 Mio. lera from Germany?
its wrong&its racist every fckin human rights organistations&every peace activists even the jewish r saying that,but ur goverment not
R u stupid?yes they vote 2 hamas u have no right 2 kill them! u have vote 2 Lieberman? do they have the right 2 kill u? where is ur logic damn? there was no WAR ZONE there was a Massacre zone!palestinains in jerusalim cant take approval 2 build a house!wt should they do? live on streets? of course they will build illegaly, most the settlements r illigaly y dont u go & destroy them?& in occupied land according 2 the international law israel has no right 2 bring the palestinians under israeli laws
so u accept wt israel should 2 do 2 make peace!ofcourse palestinians should also do some things,but the most important problems in this conflict r made by israel! its a fact! if israel make a palestinian land a reality this will make peace but if israel is keeping ignoring the palestinian rights wt should the palestinains do? not 2 fight cuz then they will be terrorists?if u dont want 2 give them their land ok!lets live together like USA or Swiss with equal rights but sorry with arabic majority
if they want to fight israels army then thats one thing but they rarely do, they almsot always target civilians which is hardly going to create any kind of peace.
yes im against that they target civilains im not saying they r angels but its easy 2 c y they r doing that! do u think hamas want 2 destroy israel with targeting sderot with kasam rockets? the kassam rockets is only an small answer 4 wt israel is doing 2 palestinians! if the palestinain were chinese not arabs they will do the same every human being will do the same! their ppl r suffering in gaza & westbank! so they think then ur civilains should feel also 1% of our suffering!
people are not suffering in west bank other than the small amount who have hd land taken by settlments and that is a fair reason to critisize israel. israel is not at war in the west bank. the west bank is a reletivly decent place to live for most. gaza is not for various reasons like of course because their was a war there are consequences of that, but also hamas have made it a police state and spent so much money on attacking israel that they have no real economy or infastructure.
do i support those countries? do i support sauida? but turkey is not calling their self an islamic country they call there self "Republic of Turkey" israel is want 2 call there self the jewish land or the land of jews, turkey is an democratic state 4 all citizens also 4 jews & christians! iran its just like israel they call there self "the islamic rep. of iran" thats y im against it ! but iran is not claiming like israel that they r the only democratic state in m.e cuz its not !
ok u live in israel & u dont know any thing about israel! israel told abas u should recognize israel the sate of jews! abas said i will recognize it as the state of israel u can call it wt do u want im not gonna call it the land of jews & im not asking u 2 call palestine the land of muslims ! or the islamic palestine " do u need more facts ? so go and tell ur goveremnt they should stop calling it the jewish land but the israeli land if they accept its will be democratic
by your logic, the tibetian people asking china for their land back after being thrown out of it is somehow racist because it would be for tibetians not for all citizens even though everyone would have equal rights regardless of their background.
ppl r not suffering?the peace activists will tell u "KISS My aSS" i told u wt israel is doing 2 the palestinains & u tell me its not suffering! the ppl is making Intifada everyday y?cuz israel is not leting them suffer?Look @ Bilin even jewish peace activist who helped the palestinians r suffering under ur army!u have no respect 4 humantiy & u r an egoist! oh so the ppl in gaza r starving not becuz the israeli blockade but becuz of the weapons of hamas? well the facts& the world looks defrent
who said that hamas made gaza a police state? who? Lieberman? bibi?how can the one who win the election make a police state?HAMAS WIN, they dont need 2 have a police state cuz they win, they control gaza becuz the ppl voted 2 them? y did the ppl vote 2 them? cuz israel is waisting time& ignoring peace! wt peace want Bibi 2 do? An economic peace thats mean-> hey take some food & some money& shut up let us build more settlements! let us transfer palest. out of Sheikh jarah & al-bustan neighborhood
i cant understand wt do u mean with the tibetian , but i supporter them just like the palestinians u can call them the palestinians of far east
no England is not calling it self the christian country or the country of christians in england theres more atheists than believer , so if u tell them u should recognize england as a christian country they will die from laughing
-no 1 said that except israel ! all the investigations of the un said the opposite
we have christian prayers in public schools, christian holidays are state holidays not just religious ones, only a christian can become monarch, there is no seperation of church and state, so on and so forth, although yes, most people are actually atheists.
LOL monarch ! i cant more only a jew can be a rabbi so wt! do u want 2 make a monarchy in israel! ofcourse theres seperation betwen church & state! but they made the same shit since 1000 years ago when every body was christian ! u can enjoy ur Hanoka in israel no 1 ask u 2 stop it ! they r celebrating Xmas&silvester even in china, is that making it no democratic! we r not talking about those stupid things we r talking about human rights !
you said it was only a country for jews because it was a jewish state. i just proved you wrong.
il tell u bout human rights. the israeli courts ruled that torturing terrorists was against their human rights so israel dosent do it. even the USA has been torturing terrorists for a long time, although thankfully theyve stoped now.
israel has a programme of affirmative action for arab israelis. is that racsit against them?
usa is now under obama r attacking every one who Violated the human rights in guantanamo during the bush goverments ! cuz he have some thing who evey human being should have , im sorry but ur goverment has nothing 2 do with humantiy! israel has also betselem! betselem is showing us how dirty ur goverment is! israel is trying 2 attack betselem!
do mean the Civil Service of arabs in israel ? its shit! its like " hey work with us & will take more rights but also not like a jew"
i was comparing tibetians to the exiled jews who wanted a homeland again, but yes i have no problem in principle with a palestinian state but sadly it wont happen for a while i doubt.
who transfer jews? palestinians did it ? u came 2 land called palestine there was ppl who lived there u transferd them& killed them & destroy their villiges & now u r not allwoing them 2 live like humanbeing until today, u keep transfering them! theres no future 2 a palestinian state with such a racist goverment like urs ! israel is the enemy of peace not palestinians! do u know wt fck palestine live together with them under 1 state & 1 goverment is that ok 2 u ? just like blacks & white in usa
hate to tell you this but the people of gaza WERNT suffering until hamas came to power. there was no blockade before hamas. no war before hamas. they had an infastructure and democracy before hamas. they had an economy before hamas. who gets blamed? the guys who FIGHT hamas get blamed for all this!
2004 ! gaza was under control of fatah , should i told wt israel did ? israel killed over 17 innocent palestinians! y ? there was "some terrorist" in the area", jimy carter said about gaza " the first legally democratic election in the arabic world" the whole world blame israel just like me! is not hamas who is making the blockade,is not hamas who killing their own children is not hamas who is not allwoing the Doctors the journalists meidicine & food & electercy & benzin 2 come into gaza, its u
um, yes it is hamas doing those things actually. doctors, journalist, medicine, food, electricy and other stuff DOES come into gaza from israel. it always has. if saudi arabia had an election then voted for al quida would it be ok?
u r fckin shame less ! israel didnt allow any body 2 get into gaza , not even foods or medicine George galloway was trying the whole time , y israel tried 2 stop him y israel was attacking every ship on the way 2 gaza even when they check it & saw thats theres no weapons , only food ... on it ? fck ur democracy , u have no humanity nothing ! u r not better than the Fascists! ciao dont write me back !
i remember you saying that palestinians shouldnt have to live under a flag with the star of david on it. your beloved switzerland has a flag with a cross on it, but does that automaticly mean that non-christians are 2nd class citizens?
Swiss is not calling their self "the land of christians" or "the christian land" israel is calling their self "the land of jews" can u understand the deference? u can put Micky mouse in ur flag,but cant call it the Land of mouses! cuz u r ignoring the rights of other ppl! u can call it "the land of all israelis" then its will be democratic 4 israeli jews & israeli arabs (4 all citizens) but israel is asking the israeli arabs 2 call it the land of jews? ?r the israel arabs gastes?
it IS the land of all israelis. it being a "jewish state" simply means jews have the right to live there, it doesnt mean anyone else who happens to live there dosent. i do think israels policy in the west bank and east jerusalem is wrong dont see how their being a jewish state is racist when there are lots of countrys calling themselves "christian countrys" or "muslim countrys"
jews have the right 2 live every where , israel dont want 2 call it " the land of all israelis" israel want 2 call it "the land of jews" so if u dont know the FACT u have no idea wt israel want! USA is not calling their self the land of christians, did the christians have no right 2 live in usa ? wt a stupid argument is that!
again hamas & hamas! yes hamas hate israel! is lieberman love israel ? 2004 Fatah was controling Gaza , israel went into gaza killed 17 civilians who were fatah supporter , israel is not respecting any 1 , dont take hamas an argument ! the problem is with u not with hamas! israel said at that time also the same about arafat that he is a terrorist! do except that hamas want 2 make peace with Lieberman or Sharon the killer or Barak who made the massacre in Jenin ? u r ignoring ur war crims ?
stop with the lieberman stuff, you cant judge a whole country on one guy. the reason hamas and the arab world hate israel is nothing to do with israeli poilcy. they decided to kill all israelis the second israel came into existance, their war caused refugees, they said we hate israel becuse of refugees, so they attacked israel, their war caused occupyed territory, they said we hate israel because of occupyed terrirory, their TV channels give out anti-semitic hate. hate dosent happn for a reason.
OK a whole country ? his party is the sec. biggest party in israel ! ofcourse it hast 2 do with israel policy ? so peace activist hate israel becuz israel is jewish ? Betselem hate israel ? jews hate arabs , arabs hate jews! we cant change it but we can change the facts that make them hate each other! israel should respect the international law , stop transfering arabs from jerusalim,stop building settlements .... and wt should palestinain do ? stop firing home made rockets !
if u sent somebody a SMS & told him 2 leave his house ! and he didnt then u have the right 2 kill him ? is that an argument 2 kill the ppl of palestine ? any way where they should go ? they cant leave gaza ! they r living like dogs in jail ? so u r ignoring all the suffering ot the palestinains but u cant ignore the rockets of hamas ? hamas rockets r such Fireworks !
NazarethR 2 years ago
all zionists are evil pigs and wretches
DeathNeff 2 years ago
why israel has the right to have nuclear weapon and iran not ?
iran is not killing the childrens of palestine and lebanon , the one who r doing it is israel .
israel is against humanity not iran .
NazarethR 3 years ago
iran is killing anyone who disagrees with the government. iran is a dictatorship ruled by islamic fundamentalist law. iran kills anyone who does not obey islamic law.iran IS killing israeli children by funding hamas and hezbollah. iran said it wants to wipe israel off the map. them getting nukes is not gunna be good for anybody.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
no its not truth ! theres Miolions in iran who disagrees with the goverment r they not alive ? any way im not supporting iran but ! israel is also killed israeli arabs cuz they made demonstrations ! israel killed even peace activists from all the world! israel is the one who is killing children with the helpf of usa ! israel is the one who have over than 300 neuclear waepons! iran didnt make any war since 300 years ! iran didnt say they want 2 destroy israel its a lie !
NazarethR 2 years ago
yes they are alive. why? because its not possible to kill millions of people in such a short space of time. israel has not killed peace activists. "Israel must be wiped off the map" - mahmoud amedinejad, iran leader
israel isnt on iranian maps. they dont recognise its right to exist. they DO want to destroy israel. israel has nuclear weopons. if israel wanted to destroy iran, it would have, because it can. iran does, as i just said, want to destroy israel, so lets not let them get nukes
davetheledge1 2 years ago
theres also Lieberman the foreign minister of israel said that israel should attack Gaza with neuclear weapons & that israel should transfer the israeli arabs! supposed its a jewish land ! do u think u have the right 2 kill & trasnfer arabs out of jerusalim cuz its a jewish land ? germany was also a german land did have the nazis the right 2 take the jews out of their houses cuz its a german land ? NO cuz its also against humanity ! the same thing is doing israel 2 the palestinains its a FACT !
NazarethR 2 years ago
i disagree with the israeli foreign minister, as do lots of israelis. i am allowed to do that, wheras someone in iran could not openly critisize their government.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
all the arabic countries disagree with iran , milions of iranins disagree with their goverement but they r also disagree that israel have the right 2 have neuclear ! so wt ? vanuno said the truth about israel israelis hating arabs & muslims more than the muslims hate the jews !
oh i can give u a list if u want ?
Rachel Corrie
thomas hurndall ....
and alot more but i think u r not from this earth u r from mars my friend ! just watch the videos of the israeli human rights orgna. in israel !
NazarethR 2 years ago
to be honest i dont think ANYBODY has the right to nuclear weopons.
rachel corrie wasent killed because she was a peace activist. she was killed because she stood in front of a bulldozer. the driver didnt actually realize she was there unfortunatly.
thomas hurndall was killed by accident while IDF were shooting near him as a detterant. these things happen in war sadly.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
oh yes every peace activist who were there said that the idf killed her with cold blood! so stop ur fckin sutpid propganda that u heard in the first israeli chanel tv ! ok ? peace activists r not lairs they r not supporting any one but humanity ! israel is destorying houses of palestinains do u think they have no right 2 fight 4 their freedom ? if i were an palestinain i will also fight like they do ! if u think no one have the right 2 have this weapons then u made just 300 of them LOL!
NazarethR 2 years ago
no, i didnt make 300 of them. somebody in the israeli government did. i disagree with that. in iran, thats a criminal offence. fight for their freedom? what, by deliberatly trying to kill as many civilians as possible?! fighting is against soldiers, terror is against civilians.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
yes but before u look at the iranian neuclear program look at ur own ! im also against any neuclear weapon ! but i cant said iran has no right 2 have it but when its about israel should i close my eyes ? terror is killing civilians ! and i said " ur Terror is much bigger than the terror of hamas" so im against that hamas kill israeli civilians ! cuz they were born there they have nothing 2 do with the policy of israel ! but look at the israeli settlers they r realy nazis !
NazarethR 2 years ago
i personaly agree that israel shouldnt have nuclear weopons. last time i looked, wanting to build a new balcony or shopping mall or even a town didnt make you a nazi.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
oh if u think that israel has not killed peace activist then u have no idea wt israel did & wt israel is doing right now ! the only thing that the palestinians r doing is firing rockets such Fireworks ! but y dont u look at the facts & c wt the illegal things that israel is doing ? transfering innocent ppl , using illegal waepons against civilians , illegal occupation of 1967, building illegal setlements on palestinian lands ! should i tell u more ?
NazarethR 2 years ago
building ileagal settlements on palestinian land? oh sorry, are we not aloowed to live here? no-one else was otherwise we wouldnt have to build settlements would we? ileagal occupation of 67 happend because the arab government tryed to kill us all and destroy our country, why is that not considerd a crime? firing fireworks? they are NOT fireworks or homemade, and the point is to kill our children.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
read the book of illan pappe learn about ur bloody history not about the israeli propaganda history! israel transferd 800,000 innocent palestinian families and those families had no weapons! destoryied over 300 palestinian villieges? if u want 2 compare the terror of hamas with ur terror is like 2 compare the holocaust with Al-Nakba! shame on u! with stones could kill more israelis than the stupid rockets of hamas! so stop ur propganda israel started the war its a fact!
NazarethR 2 years ago
hamas tryed to kill israeli civilians for 8 years. id say thats a declaration of war! id like to see you throw a stone from gaza into sderot! almost a million jews were made refugees and had their villiages destroyed by arab countrys in 1948. why? because they were jews! why does no one critisize arab governments for not letting them back in! the IDF is millitaryly much better than hamas. that does not make it moraly inferior.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
yes hamas tried to kill civilians im not supporting hamas im supporting humanity even in israel just like any human organisiation in israel just like betselem! killing civilians making more hate! both of u have enough Hate , but do u think in the 8 years israel were an angel? israel killed civilians in gaza&westbank in this 8 years more than any hamas rockets did ! how can u deny this fact? ur fckin occupying,controlling&Blockading the land of 1967 since 60 years is that not a declaration of war
NazarethR 2 years ago
the differance is we killed civilian by accident because the terrorists hide behind them.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
no its a lie , no one transfered jews ! its a lie ! read ur history not ur israeli propganda read any book of Felicia Langer or ilan pappe or gideon levy! r they also supporter of hamas ? or supporter of truth & humantiy ? the jews lived 3000 years with arabs with no any problem-> y now ? israel transferd 800,000 innocent palestinian families destroyied over 300 villiges 2 delete the history of palestine how can u deny it ? war its betwen armies so y did israel transferd innocent ppl ?
NazarethR 2 years ago
no, almost 1 million jews were forced to leave arab countrys in 1948.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
should i show u some videos of iraqi jews who live in israel & who said that zionists-organisation forced them 2 leave the arabic country 2 make them move 2 palestine (of course 2 build a jewish state )
wt a Coincidence ? jews & arabs lived since 3000 years together and suddenly just in 1948 the arabs started 2 attack jews ? y they didnt attack jews before 1000 years ? if the arabs transfered jews they will help them 2 build their own country in palestine the arabs didnt want that !
NazarethR 2 years ago
most palestinians that left israel in 1948 did so because arab leaders told them that they should leave and return after all the jews had been exterminated.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
they didnt left israel israel forced them 2 leave ! y the jews now who left geramny while WWII r having the right 2 go back 2 germany 2 take every thing back and Extra $ ? only the jews r human ? & the palestinians not ? y they cant go back 2 their homes ? y a jew has the right 2 go back 2 berlin while a palestinain have no right 2 go back 2 haifa ? dont u c how racist u r ? fck the arabic leaders we r talking here about humanity ! palestinians hate arabic leaders more than jews !
NazarethR 2 years ago
so if u have neuclear waepons& u can destroy iran y r u afraid ? iran didnt say they want 2 wipe israel of the map they said israel should go out of the history pages becuz of their war crimes! arafat recognized israel as state israel didnt recognize palestine as state thats wt happend in oslo can u deny it? so wake up its not about hate yes theres some arabs who want 2 destory israel,theres some jews who want 2 destroy all arabic countries!but the fact is who is trying 2 destroy who? its israel
NazarethR 2 years ago
israel is trying to destroy arab countrys? you yourself said that israel has 300 nukes. thats enough to destroy the WHOLE WORLD let alone all the arab countrys. we dont nuke iran because we dont want to, its as simple as that. no, they did say they wanted to wipe israel off the map. this is common knoledge.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
y do u have such alot of neuclear waepons? do u want 2 destroy all the world? and iran has no right 2 have 1 neuclear!dont be stupid no one can destroy israel! israel is making propganda 2 let the ppl stop watching them by killing palestinians! ofcourse according 2 the UN& 2 USA this settlements r illegal,israel is transfering palestinains destroying their houses every land that israel took after 67 is illegal ! where should the palestinians live? on mars?u have 80% of the land! do u want more?
NazarethR 2 years ago
no one can destroy israel. yes, because no one that hates us has nuclear weopons yet. no, we obviously dont want to destroy the world. like with most countrys, our nukes are a detterant, altough personally i think we should get rid of them. israel builts settlements. the clue is in the world BUILD. if they were built on places where palestinians were living, they wouldnt have to build them.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
ok do u think china and usa r loving each other or russia and usa r loving each other ? no but they respecting each other , Y ? cuz they now they r all strong countries a war could b catastrophic! pakistan has neuclear weapons y dont they attack israel ? cuz they know that israel has also neuclear , do u think if iraq did have neuclear just like usa then there will be a war no ! read some investigiton from the UN about israel (transfering palestinains out of jerusalim , destroying houses ....)
NazarethR 2 years ago
israel has destroyed almost as many jewish houses in jerusalem as palestinian houses. why? because they are ileagaly built. every country in the world destroys ileagaly built houses.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
OMG , stop this shit israel didnt destroyied any jewish house stop this shit ok ? dont play the rollle of an angel israel is fckin racist country every one who was in east jerusalim knows that ! every peace activist knows that ! israel is not giving the palestinians in jerusalim 2 build their houses ! 90% of the settlements have no permission from the israeli gov. & u r keeping building illegaly according 2 the israeli law & according 2 the international law ! im not stupid my friend so stop it
NazarethR 2 years ago
on the one hand settlements are often ileagal but on the other hand their not actually harming anyone by building a house. no, israel has demolished jewish homes that were built ileagaly. in my opinion israel should give the palestinians in east jerusalem more room to build their houses. but israel isnt rascist.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
they r not harming any 1 ? u r building in the 1967 land according 2 the international law they r illegal , u r stealing the lands of palestinains destroying their houses their farms & stealing their olive trees is that not harming any1? but the houses of east jerusalim that were built before the israel state was built is harming every one ? if u r giving jews the right 2 build their houses but u r not givin the same right 2 palestinians & israeli arabs ! is that not racist ? then wt is racism?
NazarethR 2 years ago
the settlers havent done tthat. building a town does not equal destroying someone elses town.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
ofcourse israel is destorying settlers r attacking palestinians ! burning their farms ! where do u live my friend ? on mars or on earth ? its easy 2 c how uneducated u r about this conflict & how poor is ur knowledge about the suffering of palestinains! i know its not ur fault ! the israeli media that u listen 2 is responsible 4 ur Hate .
NazarethR 2 years ago
and any way im not supporting iran im against an islamic regiem ! but im saying the truth ! iran is not making war crimes ! israel is making war crimes israel is using illegal weapons israel is using palestinians as human shield! i didnt invented that ! betselem show us the truth! r iran supporting betselem , dont think so ! so u dont need 2 be a jew or muslim or christ 2 c the truth u need just 2 be a human being just like any peace activst! the palestinians r the ones who r suffering not u !
NazarethR 2 years ago
israel is using palestinians as human sheilds? as opposed to hamas using palestinians as human sheilds? there are many massive peace rallys in israel. if someone held a peace rally in gaza, hamas, who the palestinians elected as their government, would kill them. the hamas charter says that they want to exterminate the jews. israel has been bombarded for 8 years with rockets before reacting. who are the peaceful ones?
davetheledge1 2 years ago
i said i didnt invented that ! ask any peace activist even the jewish peace activists ask any human rights organisation even the israeli organisations they will tell u the truth y ? cuz they support hamas ? No cuz the r supporting humantiy ,humantiy has nothig 2 do with polciy or relegion! understand that ! i dont care wt every arab say! theres also jews who want 2 destroy israel theres also jews who want 2 destroy every single arabic country! we r not talking about hate but about facts&behavior
NazarethR 2 years ago
name one person the israeli government has killed because they were a peace activist.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
heheheeh stupid propaganda ,so palestine and lebanon should stop killing the children of israel ? hehehehe WHO R killing childrens? israel, who r making Terror is israel, dont talk in the name of west and in the name of other countries, u r just a zionist.We as christian r supporting and will support the truth and the humanity for ever,we will support palestine and lebanon for ever.
NazarethR 3 years ago
the one who should stop the rockets and killing childrens is israel . who r u to speak in the name of palestinian and lebanon ! the ppl voted for hamas and hizballa so shut up .
NazarethR 3 years ago
the people of germany voted for hitler dosent give them the right to do watever they want.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
if some one kidnapped a building in telaviv full with jewish children israel will not bomb the building and tell the families of this jewish children : "the kidnapper were hiding behind them" do u know u israel r not gonna do somthing like that ? cuz this children r jews ! if the were arab children israel will kill them
yes the same thing u should say 2 the israeli goveremnt that u voted 2
NazarethR 2 years ago
israel WOULD use millitary force to get the hostages safe again.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
and y dont ur millitary force try 2 do the same in gaza? if u say that hamas r hiding behind civilians then y dont u try 2 save the civilians? cuz they r arabs civilians do u think u have the right 2 kill them? but if they were jewish civilans in telaviv then u think u have 2 save them? dont u c how racist u r? r u understanding wt r u writing ? any way hamas didnt hide behind civilians every one said that except ur goverment ! the israeli human rights org. did also dissagree with u & ur gov.
NazarethR 2 years ago
our millitary force did the same in gaza. 14 israeli soldirers died because israel went house to house rather than just bombing the place down. hamas do hide behind civilians, they themsleves admited that!
davetheledge1 2 years ago
do u know wt shut the fck up ! ur a big lair just like ur goveremnt ! israel made war crimes like no other! & u r fckin denying it ? who they themselves admited that? wtf r u talking about how old r u 5? no one said that every investigations showed us that the same shit said israel about lebanon,hizbualla told his ppl 2 leave the cities but israel destroyed every street in lebanon so no one can leave,not civilians not animals ! so try 2 wake up drink 5 liter coffe maybe then u will open ur eyes
NazarethR 2 years ago
israel sent thousands of texts, phone calls, dropped leaflets to people in gaza. ummm the UN said that hamas hide behind civilians, so did all reporters who were there!
davetheledge1 2 years ago
no one said that , never ! it was just the israeli media & israeli goverment who said that hamas was hiding behind civilains the only crime that hamas did is firing rockets at israeli civilians ! israel sent shit 2 gaza do u know that ? gaza is a big jail ! u r not making any favour if u give the caught in jail some food ! they r in jail dont u understand that ! my last device 4 u is 2 read the books of Felicia langer an israeli jewish woman who i respect & then u will understand the conflict
NazarethR 2 years ago
ciao i got 2 go was nice 2 talk 2 u , i think u should stop thinking like an israeli , u just have 2 try 2 think like an human being with no Bias! dont believe ur israeli media ! they r laing ! i wish i moved some humanity in u ! i know that israelis have also Heart like any one but they should try 2 use it ! so stop ur brainwashing & liste 2 other ppl ! only then israel will stop 2 be a racist country !
NazarethR 2 years ago
the israeli media probably is very biased, but the media in large parts of the world is extreamly anti-semitic. any civilian deaths of palestinians are a huge tradgedy, and its true that israel could have done better in cast lead. but hamas have been killing israeli citizens just because they are jews, and a long as jews are killed for being jews, israel will be at war.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
r the german media anti-semitic? CNN,BBC? the korean TV hate also jews? no i told u its not about relegion the ppl in korea dont even know wt judism is ! they r just supporting humanity! no one care if u r a jew or muslim or any thing else!so stop this blind hate in u!no hamas is not killing ppl just becuz they r jews hamas r fighting against occupation& when they r attacking israeli civilians im against it ! but wt hamas did is 1% of wt israel did! israel r killing children cuz they r arabs
NazarethR 2 years ago
israel is killing children because of hamas getting us too. they attack us from civilian areas so when we fight back palestinian civilians will die and they get a PR boost. article 7 of the hamas charter calls for genocide against all jews. fighting occupation? those israeli children, how dare they be born in israel, they are occuying our land, lets kill them.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
man stop this shit plz! dont make of ur self an angel!if hamas killed jewish children then they r terrorists but if u killed 10 times more children then u r not terrorists? that is ur problem u think u r an angel and they r Evil! its not like the movies gaza is a jail theres no War field like"lord of the rings"!as i said im against killing civilians thats y i dont support hamas i support the humanity in palestine&if israel keep 2 be racist all palestine will be like hamas cant u understand this?
NazarethR 2 years ago
i do understand your point and i think that on the one hand israel should intergrate palestinians into israeli soceity more, but on the other hand extreamists dont need a reason to hate. its probably true that israel has killed 10 times more children and i think we should change our millitary tactics to adapt to urban enviroments, which is one of our failings, but hamas have DELIBERATLY killed children and DELIBERATLY caused palestinian children killed in gaza.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
ok so this fckin settlers in hebron&other palestinain cities r not extremists! change ur tactics? israel should pay for this war crimes not only 4 killing palestinans but also 4 making them suffering also in westbank& jeruslaim!so plz dont try 2 be an angel israel is not an angel! understand that the wolrd has nothing against jews its just against the racist policy of israel?so who r u 2 decide that hamas killed DELIBERATLY but israe not?all investigaions all human rights org. Says the contrary!
NazarethR 2 years ago
"Hamas should end its attacks on political opponents and suspected collaborators in Gaza, which have killed at least 32 Palestinians and maimed several dozen more during and since the recent Israeli military offensive, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today. Human Rights Watch called on Hamas authorities in Gaza to hold those responsible accountable."
"A U.S.-based human rights group on Thursday rejected a Hamas claim that it did not target civilians during last year's war"
davetheledge1 2 years ago
hams should stop the attack! all the things that israel is doing agianst palestinians should not stop ? only the stupid rockets of hamas? ofcourse when war happen both side should stop firing but exuse me r u calling the rockets of hamas like ur rockets? y dont u c wt the human rights org. said about israel they said maybe 1000 things that israel should stop it! r u keep ignoring ur crimes ?
NazarethR 2 years ago
some settlers have extreamly othodox religious views that get extreame, but they dont cause them to act violently.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
the extremists jews in israel r like the extremists muslims in afghanistan! & some jews told me " if arabs make problems in jerusalim they should leave" but no one is making problems more than the extremist jews in jerusalim y israel is not doing any thing against them! OMG again the palestinian chosed hamas cuz they saw that they r keep suffering dont care if they voted 2 abas or hamas but the deference is that hamas is fighting a lil bit not like abas !
NazarethR 2 years ago
abbas is making peace, hamas is killing people.
the taliban go around killing people in afganistan and enforcing extreame religious law. the settlers do neither of these things.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
oh now is abas ur friend?the settlers r not?did u c wt the settlers r doing 2 the palestinians?NO cuz u live in 5 stars hotel in telaviv u dont care about the truth! go& c wt happend 2 the palestinians under controll of ur army&ur settlers! wt peace do u want u r not answering me? abas want 2 stop the settlemnts&2 have east jerusalim if u make peace with abas then hamas will shut up!the only thing that made hamas stronger is that israel is ignroing peace the palestinains given up voted 2 hamas
NazarethR 2 years ago
what are the settlers doing then? palestinians arnt controlled by army and settlers, west bank is ruled by fatah, gaza is ruled by hamas, everywhere else is ruled by israeli government like rest of country.
the palestinians cant vote for an organisation that wants to kill all jews and then blame the jews for it!
davetheledge1 2 years ago
Oh My God ! u have no idea israel is controlling every thing ! the air the water & the land! israel is against a palestinian state israel want 2 keep the palestinian in jail without rights! israel is fckin occupying westbank & gaza & not respecte the bordering of 1967 ! is that so hard 2 understand? ok jews voted 2 lieberman who want 2 use neuclear waepons agianst gaza! do the ppl of gaza have the right 2 kill israelis becuz the voted 2 liebreman or sharon who made war crimes like no one?
NazarethR 2 years ago
the 2 largest political partys in israel have both said they are in favour of a palestinian state, even though not immediatly becuase that would just make more war. anybody- palestinians or not- in jail without fail trial should be formally charged or released- i already told you i disagree with isreals policy in that. israel is not occupying gaza. there is not a single israeli in gaza. israel is occupying the west bank is that means building a town.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
no the people of gaza cant kill israelis because of that by israel trys to only kill hamas, not civilians.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
so if i was a palestinian & ur army kill my family do i have the right 2 kill israeli civilians or israeli children ? No so dont care if the ppl voted 2 hamas its their own choice u have no right 2 kill them if u dont like hamas its ur problem! the ppl have no more Confidence from Fatah or israel thats y they chosed hamas! its easy 2 understand fatah couldnt make any peace with israel the palestinian know now israel is ignoring peace so they should fight 2 get freedom
NazarethR 2 years ago
if the palestinians are ignoring peace, why should we bother entering peace negotiations?
davetheledge1 2 years ago
OMG palestinians r ignoring peace?wt peace do u want ? u r stealing their land ,u r not stoping buidling illegaly settlements on the land of 1967! shame on u where should they live in jail like gaza? if u were an palestinian u will not take this nego. until israel stop their Terror against land&humanity watch this 3 videos :
1-Nobel Peace Prize Winner shot by Israeli army
2-Occupation 101 Part 1
3-Bil'in Habibti - Bil'in My Love (teaser)
and this last video is in hebrew u will understand !
NazarethR 2 years ago
we want them to accept that we too have the right to live their. we cant make peace if their goal is to drive us all from our homes. israel HAS any contiues to negotiate peace with fatah, and west bank is much better place than gaza. this is because we cant make peace with an organisation that dosent recognise our right to exist.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
oh so u kill them 2 make them accept u have the right 2 live there ? so by killing them r u accepting their right 2 live ? r u shameless ! ofcourse u r ! no one have the goal 2 destroy israel ! israel have the goad 2 ignore peace by stealing their lands occupying their land transfering them those r the facts! oh now is westbank better! the ppl in westbank & east jeruslaim r suffering just like the ppl of gaza! did watched the videos that i gived u about bilin city ?
NazarethR 2 years ago
you want us to accept that they have the right to live there but they dont have to exept that we do? that sounds a bit one sided to me.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
they did accept u ! wt an idiot ! Arafat did accept israel as a state ! did israel accept palestine as a state ? no they keep ignoring the palestinian right thats y the make a 2 Intifada ! its their right 2 fight 4 their land & their freedom & their Rights ! and hamas also said we would accept a state on the land of 1967 ! israel is not accepting that ! israel is ignoring even international law ! palestinians r not ! plz if u r stupid so much dont write me back until u go & educate ur self !
NazarethR 2 years ago
"Neither the liberation of the Gaza Strip nor the liberation of the West Bank or even Jerusalem will suffice us. Hamas will pursue the armed struggle until the liberation of all our lands. We don't recognize the state of Israel or its right to hold onto one inch of Palestine. Palestine is an Islamic land belonging to all the Muslims."
-Dr. Mahmud al-Zahar, Hamas leader in Gaza, The Jerusalem Post, August 18, 2005
accept 67 borders? somehow i doubt that.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
i saw meshael in the news in the TV with my both eyes when he said hamas will accept a palestinian land on 67 ! so any way i dont accept with hamas ! but the fact is not wt this ppl said ! israel is not making peace with any one not even with arafat! u killed him ! u killed Rabin & talking about peace ? r hamas now the problem 4 u? r u afraid from the kasam rockets ? Lieberman said israel should use Neuclear weapon? is that ur peace ? ofcourse hamas hate u & u hate hamas ! but its not about hate
NazarethR 2 years ago
one extreamist killed rabin. mentioning rabin, hes an example of an israeli leader who gave his life for peace. in answer to your question, yes, we are afraid of the kassam rockets because they kill people. i already told you i disagree with lieberman and so does most of israel.you saw the leader of a group that kils anyone who disagrees with it and takes pleasure in murdering children say something? must be true then.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
i told u i dont support hamas i dont support iran , i support humanity ! im against 2 kill civilians of both sides ! but wt is making fckin crazy:
-is that u r talking like a victim & think theres no problem 2 kill 1 hamas members with 300 children beside him!
-israel started 2 attack civilians as first
-israel killed & destroyid 50x more than hamas !
-israel made 50X more illegaly things than hamas!
so u should blame ur self as first before blaming hamas
NazarethR 2 years ago
ppl voted 2 the nazis ? the nazis came 2 the goverment not with pure democracy only with Tricks ! didnt u learn history ? any way ! ppl voted hamas , ppl voted lieberman ! lieberman is more Worse than any hamas member !anyway the palestinians have no right 2 kill any israeli civilians dont care if they voted 2 lieberman or not ! & u have no right 2 kill any palestinian if he voted 2 hamas !(Abraham yehoshua Haaretz " Today, we kill their children, to save many of tomorrow") is that ur Moral ?
NazarethR 2 years ago
actually the nazis were elected democraticly but the point is democracy dosent always choose an acceptable leader.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
yes some times ppl be radical& chose a radikal 1 like Lieberman do any 1 have the right 2 kill the ppl who voted 2 lieberman? NO ! but forget hamas ! the ppl voted 4 hamas becuz they saw that israel will keep ingoring peace 4 ever ! so they thought "if israel didnt make peace with arafat with who would israel will made peace ? so we should fight 4 our land & our rights , cuz israelis r voting the whole time 2 radicals & criminals like sharon... so we will vote also 2 hamas" its easy 2 understand
NazarethR 2 years ago
israel offered arafat 97% of the land he wanted including east jersualem and he said no. then the say they want peace.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
LOL its a big lie ! this was a shit on paper ! 97% of the land ! if israel ready 2 give the palestinains 97% of the land there will be peace since years ago ! where did read this shit in Haaretz ? palestinians want the borders of 67 with east jerusalim , israel is keeping building settlements ignoring their rights stealing their land & their trees ! did ever u c how palestine looks like? its looks like small points on the israelian maps! in this way they will never be able 2 build a state!
NazarethR 2 years ago
i am getting this from the saudi representative at the israel/palestinian peace talks. and seeing as saudi dosent recognise israels right to exist, i doubt he is bias towards israel.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
wt saudi thing ? who r talking about saudis ? any way saudia offerd israel 2 make peace with palestinian give them east jerusalim & the borders of 67 and 31 islamic country will regonize israel ? did israel accept no ? israel want 2 waist time with more negotiation just like oslo 2 build more settlements on palestinain land ! about wt do u want 2 make negotiation ? u know wt the palestinain want u can accept or reject so stop playing like a kid !
NazarethR 2 years ago
there was a saudi guy at olso. he was a saudi prince or something. he said that arafat made a massive mistake to not take that offer. i already told you a MILLION times, i dont think israel sohuld be building settlements.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
LOL some saudi this wt ur Media told u read some books of Finkelstein a jewish man who can tell u the truth about oslo arafat should reject oslo but he did accept it was wrong 2 recognize israel as state while israe in oslo didnt recognize palestine as state but arafat as a leader of westbank LOL ! again 2 the setlements its not about Thinking if its right or wrong its about FCkin FACTS ! understand ? israel is keep destorying the palestinain lands where the fck should they live ?
NazarethR 2 years ago
if israel was a democratic state ! y only jews have the right 2 fly from Ethupia & come 2 israel while a palestinian 60 years ago who lived in haifa ,who have the Keys of his house until now has no right 2 go back? its like france gonna say "only christian french who fled during the WWII have the right 2 go back 2 france, jewish french have no right 2 go back becuz its the home land only of christian french"(its like the land of israel jews)! is that not racist ?is that not a Discrimination ?
NazarethR 2 years ago
did u watched the Videos that i gived u ? y dont u watch it in google ?
1-Bil'in Habibti - Bil'in My Love (teaser)
2-THE US SHOULD STEP BACK FROM ITS SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH ISRAEL
JUST WATCH IT AND THEN TALK
NazarethR 2 years ago
why do people have such a problem with the wall? there are walls that seperate people of differant religions to prevent violance all over the world! scotland does it, northen ireland does it, so do lots of other countrys!
davetheledge1 2 years ago
dont u c the fckin suffering of palestinains ? wt a fckin shameless ? u can ignore all this suffering but u cant ignore the kasam rockets ? the wall is more dangeros that mio. of kasam rockets ! theres no wal making any 1 suffering in the world ! r the irish suffering from any wall ? NO ! if u want 2 make peace u should build a bridge not a wall ! the wall & the settlements r not allowing 2 build a palestinian state in the future ? is that the peace u want ? sure they will fight against it
NazarethR 2 years ago
no-one has to goal to destroy israel. exept the people in charge of gaza, almost 20 countrys and lots of other people. but other than that nobody.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
dont be stupid , they wana destroy israel with the kasam rockets oh yes ! the massacre in gaza that u did showed us who wana 2 destroy who ! wt an stupid person r u ? r u living ur phantasy world ? dont u c the facts ? isreal is destorying the palestinian land ! not hamas is destroying israel ! u cant win against hamas if u killed humanity there ! they will support hamas more and more ! cant u understand that ?
NazarethR 2 years ago
just about the entire arab world has expresed its desire to destroy israel. just because hamas dont have as good a millitary as israel it dosent make them morally right. i can understand your last point but how else are we supposed to deal with maniacs other than fighting them?
davetheledge1 2 years ago
if china transferd tibetian is that giving u the right 2 transfer & kill palestinians ? wt an stupid person r u ? if ur someone kill his neighbor , is that giving u the right 2 kill ur neighbor ? & then if go 2 trail u said looks every body killes everybody so im not guilty ? LOL is that ur humanity ? israel is ignoring peace before hamas so shut the fck up! hamas didnt make any intifada the westbank did ? y ? cuz israel is ignoring peace not hamas or any palestinian
NazarethR 2 years ago
i wasent defending china, i was comparing the exiled tibetians with jews.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
ofcourse i have sympathy with the jews like every 1 but i dont think that the palestinians & the arabs which lived the whole time in peace with jews r responsible 4 any suffering of jews ! the palestinians didnt transfer jews out of palestine! i think the land belong 2 both side palestinians & jews just like in the history! so palestinains & jews should share the land! its an holy land 4 u & 4 them! so y r u transfering them? 2 make a jewish majority ? its like 2 make white majority in nyc
NazarethR 2 years ago
2 state solutution would be good but one non-jewish state would be bad. its not rascism its nationalism, the establishment of a national homeland for the jewish people. we are not a race, so how can it be rascist?
davetheledge1 2 years ago
2 state solution 4 all citizens ! no jewish state no islamic state ! or 1 state solution just like Swissland , look at swiss land theres italina france & german ppl who live all together with equal rights ! its the only way 2 make ur area democratic ! y should an muslim or christian arab have flag with David star ? y dont u put a cross & half-moon if its a state 4 all citizens & democratic as u say!
NazarethR 2 years ago
the irish flag has orange to represent protastants, green to represent chatholics and white for peace between them. according to your logic jews, muslims or any non-christians shouldnt have to live under that flag. everybody lives together in israel with equal rights. all the european flags with crosses on them dont have stars of david on them, that dosent make them rascist against jews!
davetheledge1 2 years ago
what your saying is like asking the french and germans to combine into one big country. have you thought that mabye they like the idea of self determination and national identity?
davetheledge1 2 years ago
u dont need 2 hate white or black ppl 2 b racist
racisim is a way of Discrimination!if u prefer some race on another u will b racist! if u prefer some ppl on other becuz of their relegion this will b also racist,if u prefer some nation on another its will b also racist!if u think that ur blood is more worth than another its will b also racist!if some state prefer blacks than white ppl its will be racist country,&if israel prefer ppl with jewish roots more than arabic roots its will b aslo racist
NazarethR 2 years ago
if you prefer some nation over another its rascit? but that means NO countrys have the right to exist, so why have you singled out israel?
davetheledge1 2 years ago
the american could say , 'well we prefer the white nation on the african nation how its can be racist? " the only way 2 be democratic and that every 1 have the same rights is 2 build a land 4 all citizens the italians have the right 2 stay in swiss just like german & french? do u c any problem in swiss? its democracy ! israel is not democratic! if u shoot an arab Demonstrator & dont shoot a jewish then ofcourse u r racist ! if u transfer palestinians out of jerusalim 2 bring jews u r also racist
NazarethR 2 years ago
white/ black= race
jews= nation (that needs a homeland)
thats the basis of zionism
davetheledge1 2 years ago
OMG , a nation ? do u mean the jew from india or Philipene or Etupia have more right 2 live on this land more than the israeli arab or the palestinian ? is that wt u mean ? muslims r also a nation with defrent races? do the muslims think that the pakistanis have or chinese muslims have the right live in this land more than the palestinains ? if usa were a christian land & the jew will sufer in usa the jews will also fight 4 their rights !
NazarethR 2 years ago
its not jews as a religion, its jews as an exiled nation who need a homeland.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
If Germany said :" we prefer the ppl of west germany more than the ppl of east Germany " they have the same race! they r all German east or west ! but its will still racist? or not? its will stay a Discrimination! USA can call her self the home land of Atheism ! atheism have not 1 race! its can be black atheists or white or chinese athiests .. so wt about the bodists american or christian or jew or muslim americans ? would they accept that?NO! Democractic state is a state 4 every one israel not
NazarethR 2 years ago
judasim has not one race either. i dont understand what your getting at here
davetheledge1 2 years ago
so the problem of peace is not hamas! its ISRAEL ! yes hamas hate israel!israel hate hamas! its not about hate its about fact the most important fact is "ISRAEL IS OCCUPYING PALESTINE & BUILDING SETTELEMTNS" i know that u against that but this will not change any thing,but u should accept that israel is the one who is ignoring peace not palestinains! when israel keep ignroing the palestinian rights wt do except from them ? not 2 fire rockets or 2 make intifada ? read some book of Felicia langer
NazarethR 2 years ago
there are no israeli settlements in gaza. hamas dont attack settlers. they are against israel, its civilians, and all jews. how is israel supposed to make peace with a group that speaks about exterminating all jews? thats not me thinking as an israeli or jew, that me thinking just as a human.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
An israeli jewish Dr said 2 me " when those arabic doctors r living & working in germany or italy or some where else but not israel they will be the best doctors! they will make a gr8 career but in israel they have no chance! " -> its just a little view of the israeli Racism & Discrimination against arabs , theres alot more example 4 ur racism !
NazarethR 2 years ago
there are racist people in israel, but the state is not. affirmative action is the governments official policy, is that discriminating against arabs?
davetheledge1 2 years ago
when the state rejected 2 bring 1 police man in jail after killing 13 israeli arabs Demonst. is that not racist country ? dosnt that remind u about the black in usa during the 50-70's ? no one white police man was going 2 jail after killing balcks Demonst.! transfering them out of jerusalim ! destroying their houses becuz they have no approval ! while hounders of settlements have no approval & no one destroy them! building houses only 4 jews is that not like building houses only 4 white ppl ?
NazarethR 2 years ago
its not to do with race! settlements are wrong because west bank is effectivly another country and buiding settlemants is counter productive for peace.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
cant u understand this shit ? the settlements is destorying the palestinain land ! theres no chance 2 build a palestinain land ? wt should the palestinain do look at u killing them transfering them , stealing their lands killing peace activists ! and if the do something against it like in Bilin then they r terrorists ? ok as a peace activst i will proud if israel call me a terrorist !
NazarethR 2 years ago
if you go around killing innocent people deliberatly then yes, israel will call you a terrorist.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
19 peace activists from england r in the in israeli jail? do u know y? the made a peacfully Demo. agains the wall , against transfering palestinains from east jerusalim! against throwing them 2 the streets, against the attacks of settlers in Hebron, do u know how many children under 14 years old r in the israeli jails cuz they try 2 protect their houses by throwing stones at soldiers ? if some one try 2 take me out of my home i will do the same , u will do the same!
NazarethR 2 years ago
if palestinians in gaza or west bank use their houses for hiding weapons they will use to kill israelis, they really cant complain when israel tears down the houses. if they vote for hamas who want to kill every israeli and every jew, they cant complain when israel attacks hamas and gaza becomes a war zone. palestinians in east jerusalem build homes ileagaly then complain it gets knocked down! the same would happen to jews who built ileagaly! and does in west jerusalem
davetheledge1 2 years ago
OMG again 2 the stupid stories that israel said, hiding weapons? do u know wt goldstone said? "im asking the israelis 2 come 2 gaza let us together take the Debris & if u find some weapons under the Debris then u r right" but every fckin Investigation, every Camera show us that there was no weapons!& if there was waepons and there were some children there u have no right 2 bomb this house! its fckin international law! understand! israel destoryid over 4000 houses? they all had weapons? R U GOD ?
NazarethR 2 years ago
goldstone sentanced a 14 yr old black boy to over 10years in prison for possesing a recording of a white mans voice while working for the apartied regime!
davetheledge1 2 years ago
this is a stupid story was made by ur stuid israeli propaganda! its never happend ! goldstone is calling him self even a zionist jew! but he cant close his eyes when he c the war crimes of israel! just like any human being who have some feeling , im sorry u r not an human being if u cant c the truth & have some feeling ! u r the reason 4 the suffering of palestinians even before hamas! who made the 2 intifada ? was not hamas ! but all the palestinians against the injustice & against ur crimes
NazarethR 2 years ago
goldstone DID actually work for apartied and so on.
palestinian kills israeli = resistance, because of unjust treatment
israeli kills palestinian to stop them killing israeli = horrific crime, genocide
the media is biased against israel not for it you moron!
davetheledge1 2 years ago
oh the media is loving hamas oh sure !
one fact u forget israel is occupying palestine not palestine is occupying israel , if some alians came 2 telaviv and occupy telaviv! & u attack them is that not a resistance ? and if they attack u is that not a war crime ? LOL where is ur logic ! those ppl r fighting 4 their freedom wt r u fighting 4 ? israel is trying 2 keep palestinians under their control thats y israel is attacking palestinains !
NazarethR 2 years ago
if they were fighting for freedom, they would fight soldiers (thats what fighting is). deliberatly killing women and children is NOT resistance.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
the intifada was allways against Soldiers, but wt did ur soldiers ? they killed ppl they killed innocent Demonst., & u cry when some stupid palestinian kill also an innocent israeli ? blame ur goverment no one kill so much innocent ppl as ur goverment not even hamas ! so call ur goverment a terrorist goverment before calling hamas !
NazarethR 2 years ago
u have ur freedom u have ur country ! so wt do u want from them ? they have no freedoom they have no country , israel is controling them stealing over 80% of the water of westbank ! read the book of Felica langer and shut up u have no idea wt ur country is doing 2 palestinains ! ofcourse they will fight with every thing 2 get their rights & freedom ! with stones & rocekts ! im against if it was against israeli civilians, it but evey 1 can understand it !
NazarethR 2 years ago
any arabs who are israeli citizen, of which there are millions, have full rights and are treated the same as jewish citizens by the govrenment. israeli policy in the west bank is wrong in my opinion but its not racist.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
shut th fck up,they r not treated the same as jews by ur racist goverment!we saw the same treated in 10/2000 when israel killed 13 israeli arabs with cold blood!
we saw ur democracy when israel killed there own israeli arabs citizens in kfar-Kasem israel killed 50 israeli arabs&paid 1 Lera 2 each family!is that humanity?would u accept 6 Mio. lera from Germany?
its wrong&its racist every fckin human rights organistations&every peace activists even the jewish r saying that,but ur goverment not
NazarethR 2 years ago
R u stupid?yes they vote 2 hamas u have no right 2 kill them! u have vote 2 Lieberman? do they have the right 2 kill u? where is ur logic damn? there was no WAR ZONE there was a Massacre zone!palestinains in jerusalim cant take approval 2 build a house!wt should they do? live on streets? of course they will build illegaly, most the settlements r illigaly y dont u go & destroy them?& in occupied land according 2 the international law israel has no right 2 bring the palestinians under israeli laws
NazarethR 2 years ago
so u accept wt israel should 2 do 2 make peace!ofcourse palestinians should also do some things,but the most important problems in this conflict r made by israel! its a fact! if israel make a palestinian land a reality this will make peace but if israel is keeping ignoring the palestinian rights wt should the palestinains do? not 2 fight cuz then they will be terrorists?if u dont want 2 give them their land ok!lets live together like USA or Swiss with equal rights but sorry with arabic majority
NazarethR 2 years ago
if they want to fight israels army then thats one thing but they rarely do, they almsot always target civilians which is hardly going to create any kind of peace.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
yes im against that they target civilains im not saying they r angels but its easy 2 c y they r doing that! do u think hamas want 2 destroy israel with targeting sderot with kasam rockets? the kassam rockets is only an small answer 4 wt israel is doing 2 palestinians! if the palestinain were chinese not arabs they will do the same every human being will do the same! their ppl r suffering in gaza & westbank! so they think then ur civilains should feel also 1% of our suffering!
NazarethR 2 years ago
people are not suffering in west bank other than the small amount who have hd land taken by settlments and that is a fair reason to critisize israel. israel is not at war in the west bank. the west bank is a reletivly decent place to live for most. gaza is not for various reasons like of course because their was a war there are consequences of that, but also hamas have made it a police state and spent so much money on attacking israel that they have no real economy or infastructure.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
do i support those countries? do i support sauida? but turkey is not calling their self an islamic country they call there self "Republic of Turkey" israel is want 2 call there self the jewish land or the land of jews, turkey is an democratic state 4 all citizens also 4 jews & christians! iran its just like israel they call there self "the islamic rep. of iran" thats y im against it ! but iran is not claiming like israel that they r the only democratic state in m.e cuz its not !
NazarethR 2 years ago
israel is calling itself "the state of israel" not "jewish state of israel". that is just a commonly used phrase.
the fact that its for jews dosent make it any less for other people as well, its all inclusive.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
ok u live in israel & u dont know any thing about israel! israel told abas u should recognize israel the sate of jews! abas said i will recognize it as the state of israel u can call it wt do u want im not gonna call it the land of jews & im not asking u 2 call palestine the land of muslims ! or the islamic palestine " do u need more facts ? so go and tell ur goveremnt they should stop calling it the jewish land but the israeli land if they accept its will be democratic
NazarethR 2 years ago
by your logic, the tibetian people asking china for their land back after being thrown out of it is somehow racist because it would be for tibetians not for all citizens even though everyone would have equal rights regardless of their background.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
ppl r not suffering?the peace activists will tell u "KISS My aSS" i told u wt israel is doing 2 the palestinains & u tell me its not suffering! the ppl is making Intifada everyday y?cuz israel is not leting them suffer?Look @ Bilin even jewish peace activist who helped the palestinians r suffering under ur army!u have no respect 4 humantiy & u r an egoist! oh so the ppl in gaza r starving not becuz the israeli blockade but becuz of the weapons of hamas? well the facts& the world looks defrent
NazarethR 2 years ago
who said that hamas made gaza a police state? who? Lieberman? bibi?how can the one who win the election make a police state?HAMAS WIN, they dont need 2 have a police state cuz they win, they control gaza becuz the ppl voted 2 them? y did the ppl vote 2 them? cuz israel is waisting time& ignoring peace! wt peace want Bibi 2 do? An economic peace thats mean-> hey take some food & some money& shut up let us build more settlements! let us transfer palest. out of Sheikh jarah & al-bustan neighborhood
NazarethR 2 years ago
no, the UN said that.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
i cant understand wt do u mean with the tibetian , but i supporter them just like the palestinians u can call them the palestinians of far east
no England is not calling it self the christian country or the country of christians in england theres more atheists than believer , so if u tell them u should recognize england as a christian country they will die from laughing
-no 1 said that except israel ! all the investigations of the un said the opposite
NazarethR 2 years ago
we have christian prayers in public schools, christian holidays are state holidays not just religious ones, only a christian can become monarch, there is no seperation of church and state, so on and so forth, although yes, most people are actually atheists.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
LOL monarch ! i cant more only a jew can be a rabbi so wt! do u want 2 make a monarchy in israel! ofcourse theres seperation betwen church & state! but they made the same shit since 1000 years ago when every body was christian ! u can enjoy ur Hanoka in israel no 1 ask u 2 stop it ! they r celebrating Xmas&silvester even in china, is that making it no democratic! we r not talking about those stupid things we r talking about human rights !
NazarethR 2 years ago
you said it was only a country for jews because it was a jewish state. i just proved you wrong.
il tell u bout human rights. the israeli courts ruled that torturing terrorists was against their human rights so israel dosent do it. even the USA has been torturing terrorists for a long time, although thankfully theyve stoped now.
israel has a programme of affirmative action for arab israelis. is that racsit against them?
davetheledge1 2 years ago
usa is now under obama r attacking every one who Violated the human rights in guantanamo during the bush goverments ! cuz he have some thing who evey human being should have , im sorry but ur goverment has nothing 2 do with humantiy! israel has also betselem! betselem is showing us how dirty ur goverment is! israel is trying 2 attack betselem!
do mean the Civil Service of arabs in israel ? its shit! its like " hey work with us & will take more rights but also not like a jew"
NazarethR 2 years ago
i was comparing tibetians to the exiled jews who wanted a homeland again, but yes i have no problem in principle with a palestinian state but sadly it wont happen for a while i doubt.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
who transfer jews? palestinians did it ? u came 2 land called palestine there was ppl who lived there u transferd them& killed them & destroy their villiges & now u r not allwoing them 2 live like humanbeing until today, u keep transfering them! theres no future 2 a palestinian state with such a racist goverment like urs ! israel is the enemy of peace not palestinians! do u know wt fck palestine live together with them under 1 state & 1 goverment is that ok 2 u ? just like blacks & white in usa
NazarethR 2 years ago
or just like jews and arabs in israel......
davetheledge1 2 years ago
hate to tell you this but the people of gaza WERNT suffering until hamas came to power. there was no blockade before hamas. no war before hamas. they had an infastructure and democracy before hamas. they had an economy before hamas. who gets blamed? the guys who FIGHT hamas get blamed for all this!
davetheledge1 2 years ago
2004 ! gaza was under control of fatah , should i told wt israel did ? israel killed over 17 innocent palestinians! y ? there was "some terrorist" in the area", jimy carter said about gaza " the first legally democratic election in the arabic world" the whole world blame israel just like me! is not hamas who is making the blockade,is not hamas who killing their own children is not hamas who is not allwoing the Doctors the journalists meidicine & food & electercy & benzin 2 come into gaza, its u
NazarethR 2 years ago
um, yes it is hamas doing those things actually. doctors, journalist, medicine, food, electricy and other stuff DOES come into gaza from israel. it always has. if saudi arabia had an election then voted for al quida would it be ok?
davetheledge1 2 years ago
u r fckin shame less ! israel didnt allow any body 2 get into gaza , not even foods or medicine George galloway was trying the whole time , y israel tried 2 stop him y israel was attacking every ship on the way 2 gaza even when they check it & saw thats theres no weapons , only food ... on it ? fck ur democracy , u have no humanity nothing ! u r not better than the Fascists! ciao dont write me back !
NazarethR 2 years ago
i remember you saying that palestinians shouldnt have to live under a flag with the star of david on it. your beloved switzerland has a flag with a cross on it, but does that automaticly mean that non-christians are 2nd class citizens?
davetheledge1 2 years ago
Swiss is not calling their self "the land of christians" or "the christian land" israel is calling their self "the land of jews" can u understand the deference? u can put Micky mouse in ur flag,but cant call it the Land of mouses! cuz u r ignoring the rights of other ppl! u can call it "the land of all israelis" then its will be democratic 4 israeli jews & israeli arabs (4 all citizens) but israel is asking the israeli arabs 2 call it the land of jews? ?r the israel arabs gastes?
NazarethR 2 years ago
it IS the land of all israelis. it being a "jewish state" simply means jews have the right to live there, it doesnt mean anyone else who happens to live there dosent. i do think israels policy in the west bank and east jerusalem is wrong dont see how their being a jewish state is racist when there are lots of countrys calling themselves "christian countrys" or "muslim countrys"
davetheledge1 2 years ago
jews have the right 2 live every where , israel dont want 2 call it " the land of all israelis" israel want 2 call it "the land of jews" so if u dont know the FACT u have no idea wt israel want! USA is not calling their self the land of christians, did the christians have no right 2 live in usa ? wt a stupid argument is that!
NazarethR 2 years ago
i live in the UK which DOES call itself a christian country. it doesnt mean its not for all citizens!
davetheledge1 2 years ago
again hamas & hamas! yes hamas hate israel! is lieberman love israel ? 2004 Fatah was controling Gaza , israel went into gaza killed 17 civilians who were fatah supporter , israel is not respecting any 1 , dont take hamas an argument ! the problem is with u not with hamas! israel said at that time also the same about arafat that he is a terrorist! do except that hamas want 2 make peace with Lieberman or Sharon the killer or Barak who made the massacre in Jenin ? u r ignoring ur war crims ?
NazarethR 2 years ago
stop with the lieberman stuff, you cant judge a whole country on one guy. the reason hamas and the arab world hate israel is nothing to do with israeli poilcy. they decided to kill all israelis the second israel came into existance, their war caused refugees, they said we hate israel becuse of refugees, so they attacked israel, their war caused occupyed territory, they said we hate israel because of occupyed terrirory, their TV channels give out anti-semitic hate. hate dosent happn for a reason.
davetheledge1 2 years ago
OK a whole country ? his party is the sec. biggest party in israel ! ofcourse it hast 2 do with israel policy ? so peace activist hate israel becuz israel is jewish ? Betselem hate israel ? jews hate arabs , arabs hate jews! we cant change it but we can change the facts that make them hate each other! israel should respect the international law , stop transfering arabs from jerusalim,stop building settlements .... and wt should palestinain do ? stop firing home made rockets !
NazarethR 2 years ago
yeah israel should do all those things. rockets are not homemade btw they are smuggled through tunnels and supplyed by the iranian government.
davetheledge1 2 years ago