@patsagainstrats Hey champ, do you really need to express that you're a republican or that you're in the teabag party? Homoslang? That's that all you took from this? That's what struck you. You got a long way to go kid. How about some respect? Better yet how about reading a people's history? He was a nobleman in the truest sense of the word, and he loved this country.
Howard Zinn hated America and his "People's History" is nothing but a collection of fabricated primary sources and made up contexts. Nowhere in John Adams' writings did John Adams claim that only one third of Americans favored the War for Independence. John Adams said one third of Americans favored the French Revolution. Zinn perverts the context to fabricate sources.
TrooperRaven, Howard Zinn is one of these rare white americans with a conscience towar decency, making one wonder that perhaps white america does indeed have soul; one not necesserally sold to satan. RIP Mr. Zinn and join other brave human beings like William Lloyd Garrison. Be Blessed, Peace and Shalom
Most slave owners in the world today are black. When freed slaves went to Liberia, the first thing they accomplished was the enslavement of the native population. White america created a country so good that most freed slaves didn't want to leave.
A black African, Anthony Johnson, introduced slave-owning to America.
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." John 8:7
@TheFlanker35, spare Me the usual rhetoric from white america in defending their sordid past of crimes against humanity; america has been indulging in the banquets of sin, and has, and continues to cast stones, napalm bombs, assisinations and etc. on whom ever they please for any given reason. With that comparison in mind, I am delighted & honored to cast the first stone (called wormwood) on what this demonic nation represents. Be Blessed, Peace & Shalom,
I'm not defending crimes but praising good works. We fight in our own defense and sometimes make mistakes. Even your Bible says "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10
So obviously everyone in history has done some bad things but that is no reason to get rid of the good things they did. White Americans ended open slavery. Black america started slavery as Anthony Johnson was the first slave-owner in the colonies that became the US.
@TheFlanker35, Anthony Johnson was an indentured servant who, subsequent to his freedom, owned ONE African slave to work in His tobacco farm. Rest assured that He did not mistreat His slave like the rest of those european colonial murderes mistreated their slaves. Also, learn the parable of the "faithful steward" in Luke 12:41-48; "...to whom much has been given, much will be required." America has been blessed beyond measures but yet remains the most demonic of all. Blessings & Shalom,
Slavery was wrong because it was degrading to a human being, not only because masters could mistreat their slaves. Most, at least many, slave owners weren't hateful people; they just viewed slaves as inferior. Read Fountain Hughes' account. In Africa, slaves were sometimes eaten by their masters in the Ndongo Kingdom. You ever wonder how the Great Zimbabwe was built? I don't know for certain, but I would guess that they used slavery.
@TheFlanker35, please, ponder on the following. There were three mad men; exact clones of each other.The only difference between the three was the weapon they each carried. One carried a tooth pick, the other a grenade, and the last a radio controlled device to detonate a nuclear bomb. America wants you to remain pacified by focusing on the equality of the nature of these madmen rather than on the potential consequences of their madness. Much given;much required. Blessings, Peace & Shalom,
That's a good argument against acting directly against someone who is technologically sophisticated, but it doesn't decide morality. If we preemptively attack Iran or North Korea, both countries that may very well be prepared to use nuclear weapons against us, would it be moral to attack Iran or North Korea? However, the science behind nuclear power has done a lot of good too and the atomic bomb stopped Japanese genocides.
"America wants you to remain pacified by focusing on the equality of the nature of these madmen rather than on the potential consequences of their madness."
If you mean the government, they are mostly pro-Zinn. "A People's History" is required reading in lots of classes in the US.
From a practical, though not moral perspective, I can see how you could see the man with the bomb as the worst. However, the US also does much good. Total depravity must be considered.
@ednoisin, Howard Zinn is not white but a "jew" passing for white. Nevertheless, he is an individual paying attention to voice of his conscience. Shalom,
It depends on one's definition of "slave", I suppose, but there are some americans who are not slaves, by my definition, because they are not participating in the "system", they are not indebted to the credit card companies, or the motgage companies, their days are their own, all 365.
When Michael Jackson died, talked non-stop about his demise. howard´s death, however, is only covered by RT! I applaud RT. In my opinion Howard Zinn was more important than Michael! He fought for civil rights, he fought for peace, and equality. What did michael do? rape children, have hundreds of surgeries, and live in a bubble!
Long live Howard! Your legacy is more alive than ever!
Why hasn't RT reported on the Iranian execution of a young freedom protestor???
That deserves some heavy coverage, but not to demonize the government rather to celebrate the life of a democratic hero who was only 19 when martyred, a beautiful life cut short by opponents of democracy. Ignoring the story is a mistake.
because RT knows that the "revolution" in Iran is propped up the CIA and Mossad. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is one of the only presidents to stand up to Zionist imperialism.
By the way Howard Zinn denounced the 9/11 truth movement. He deserves appreciation for his anti-war activism but he was far from being one of the top American patriots.
That's more or less my take on HZ as well, I offered a RIP out of basic respect.
I would never chastise ahmadinejad for standing up to hypocritical imperialism. Somebody has to. As I presently argue, the students are between Scylla and Charybdis, and they will, undoubdtedly, suffer mightily when these opposing forces unleash their full wrath, because regardless of their rhetoric, the last thing the U.S. and Israeli secret governments want is a powerful, vibrant, democratic Iran.
@MarkoKraguljac Yeah, if everyone just magically turned into Howard Zinn the world would be better off. It's not like you're being totally naive or anything.
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patsagainstrats 1 year ago
Bull-dyke Alert!
patsagainstrats 1 year ago
@patsagainstrats Hey champ, do you really need to express that you're a republican or that you're in the teabag party? Homoslang? That's that all you took from this? That's what struck you. You got a long way to go kid. How about some respect? Better yet how about reading a people's history? He was a nobleman in the truest sense of the word, and he loved this country.
just4funzees 1 year ago
@just4funzees,
Howard Zinn hated America and his "People's History" is nothing but a collection of fabricated primary sources and made up contexts. Nowhere in John Adams' writings did John Adams claim that only one third of Americans favored the War for Independence. John Adams said one third of Americans favored the French Revolution. Zinn perverts the context to fabricate sources.
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
TrooperRaven, Howard Zinn is one of these rare white americans with a conscience towar decency, making one wonder that perhaps white america does indeed have soul; one not necesserally sold to satan. RIP Mr. Zinn and join other brave human beings like William Lloyd Garrison. Be Blessed, Peace and Shalom
ednoisin 2 years ago
@ednoisin,
Most slave owners in the world today are black. When freed slaves went to Liberia, the first thing they accomplished was the enslavement of the native population. White america created a country so good that most freed slaves didn't want to leave.
A black African, Anthony Johnson, introduced slave-owning to America.
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." John 8:7
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
@TheFlanker35, spare Me the usual rhetoric from white america in defending their sordid past of crimes against humanity; america has been indulging in the banquets of sin, and has, and continues to cast stones, napalm bombs, assisinations and etc. on whom ever they please for any given reason. With that comparison in mind, I am delighted & honored to cast the first stone (called wormwood) on what this demonic nation represents. Be Blessed, Peace & Shalom,
ednoisin 1 year ago
@ednoisin,
I'm not defending crimes but praising good works. We fight in our own defense and sometimes make mistakes. Even your Bible says "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10
So obviously everyone in history has done some bad things but that is no reason to get rid of the good things they did. White Americans ended open slavery. Black america started slavery as Anthony Johnson was the first slave-owner in the colonies that became the US.
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
@TheFlanker35, Anthony Johnson was an indentured servant who, subsequent to his freedom, owned ONE African slave to work in His tobacco farm. Rest assured that He did not mistreat His slave like the rest of those european colonial murderes mistreated their slaves. Also, learn the parable of the "faithful steward" in Luke 12:41-48; "...to whom much has been given, much will be required." America has been blessed beyond measures but yet remains the most demonic of all. Blessings & Shalom,
ednoisin 1 year ago
@ednoisin,
Slavery was wrong because it was degrading to a human being, not only because masters could mistreat their slaves. Most, at least many, slave owners weren't hateful people; they just viewed slaves as inferior. Read Fountain Hughes' account. In Africa, slaves were sometimes eaten by their masters in the Ndongo Kingdom. You ever wonder how the Great Zimbabwe was built? I don't know for certain, but I would guess that they used slavery.
Why are we the most demonic of all?
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
@TheFlanker35, please, ponder on the following. There were three mad men; exact clones of each other.The only difference between the three was the weapon they each carried. One carried a tooth pick, the other a grenade, and the last a radio controlled device to detonate a nuclear bomb. America wants you to remain pacified by focusing on the equality of the nature of these madmen rather than on the potential consequences of their madness. Much given;much required. Blessings, Peace & Shalom,
ednoisin 1 year ago
@ednoisin,
That's a good argument against acting directly against someone who is technologically sophisticated, but it doesn't decide morality. If we preemptively attack Iran or North Korea, both countries that may very well be prepared to use nuclear weapons against us, would it be moral to attack Iran or North Korea? However, the science behind nuclear power has done a lot of good too and the atomic bomb stopped Japanese genocides.
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
@ednoisin,
"America wants you to remain pacified by focusing on the equality of the nature of these madmen rather than on the potential consequences of their madness."
If you mean the government, they are mostly pro-Zinn. "A People's History" is required reading in lots of classes in the US.
From a practical, though not moral perspective, I can see how you could see the man with the bomb as the worst. However, the US also does much good. Total depravity must be considered.
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
@ednoisin, Howard Zinn is not white but a "jew" passing for white. Nevertheless, he is an individual paying attention to voice of his conscience. Shalom,
ednoisin 1 year ago
@ednoisin Jews are white...
UndercoverCracker 1 year ago
Rest in peace Howard.
donkuss 2 years ago
@donkuss One less communist professor to indoctrinate the students. I say good riddance.
leeason1 1 year ago
slave gets sold once , but wage labourer gets sold by the hour
DEVRIMCI2007 2 years ago 2
The world lost a great American hero and Bernanke was just comfirmed for a second term at the FED. MAN we are fucked!
cerritoboy 2 years ago 6
It depends on one's definition of "slave", I suppose, but there are some americans who are not slaves, by my definition, because they are not participating in the "system", they are not indebted to the credit card companies, or the motgage companies, their days are their own, all 365.
slewofdamascus 2 years ago 4
@slewofdamascus we call them "Amish" lol
Plum369 2 years ago
smile
slewofdamascus 2 years ago
the world lost a genius! He was always right!
When Michael Jackson died, talked non-stop about his demise. howard´s death, however, is only covered by RT! I applaud RT. In my opinion Howard Zinn was more important than Michael! He fought for civil rights, he fought for peace, and equality. What did michael do? rape children, have hundreds of surgeries, and live in a bubble!
Long live Howard! Your legacy is more alive than ever!
cerritoboy 2 years ago 3
find it curious i heard about Salinger's dying on BBC today and not a word about Mr. Zinn
aesthector 2 years ago 2
I just looked this guy up a week ago.wow.rip man.
global2012 2 years ago
@DIVERSITYRECESSION3 your such an asshole
Athanaseus 2 years ago
RIP HZ
Why hasn't RT reported on the Iranian execution of a young freedom protestor???
That deserves some heavy coverage, but not to demonize the government rather to celebrate the life of a democratic hero who was only 19 when martyred, a beautiful life cut short by opponents of democracy. Ignoring the story is a mistake.
slewofdamascus 2 years ago
@slewofdamascus
because RT knows that the "revolution" in Iran is propped up the CIA and Mossad. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is one of the only presidents to stand up to Zionist imperialism.
By the way Howard Zinn denounced the 9/11 truth movement. He deserves appreciation for his anti-war activism but he was far from being one of the top American patriots.
ngfan1 2 years ago 2
That's more or less my take on HZ as well, I offered a RIP out of basic respect.
I would never chastise ahmadinejad for standing up to hypocritical imperialism. Somebody has to. As I presently argue, the students are between Scylla and Charybdis, and they will, undoubdtedly, suffer mightily when these opposing forces unleash their full wrath, because regardless of their rhetoric, the last thing the U.S. and Israeli secret governments want is a powerful, vibrant, democratic Iran.
slewofdamascus 2 years ago
RIP Howard Zinn, one of the few classical Liberals that I actually liked.
gli96187 2 years ago
We need thousands of Zinns for this world to get better.
MarkoKraguljac 2 years ago 2
@MarkoKraguljac Yeah, if everyone just magically turned into Howard Zinn the world would be better off. It's not like you're being totally naive or anything.
leeason1 1 year ago
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MarkoKraguljac 2 years ago