@labartic.....idk where u get ur info from but the 5.56mm NATO has 3100GPS at the muzzle, that's why its hard to suppress it and that's the only thing it has going for it, its penetration capability. but lacks knockdown power.
the m14 uses a 7.62x51 round compared to a soviet 7.62x39 round is a world of a difference. 7.62x51 its accurate enough to be a sniper round, that's what is used on the marines m40 variations and the army m24.
The m14 is considered a battle rifle and no assault rifle means a light weight medium caliber rifle not just a term used by liberals to scare us u right wing ass...yes they use the term wrongfully but it has another meaning...do some research next time
I've done done plenty of research boy. If it means light weight rifle with a medium caliber, why is it that if I put my M1A into a pistol grip stock, it becomes considered an assault rifle? My mini 14 was lightweight and shot .223 but was not classified as one. I was in the Army for 6 years, I've been a competitive shooter all my life, no serious shooter uses the term as a true classification and the gun industry has never used it or laid out a guideline for it. It is a term, that simple.
Let me put some of this crap to rest. First off, "assault rifle" is a term conjured up by retard liberals in an attempt to demonize certain types of long guns. Secondly, the EBR can be used as a sniper rifle, but is not considered one, and is generally used in the squad designated marksmen role (that's what my company used it for in Afghanistan). Thirdly, a sniper rifle does not have to shoot 1/2 MOA, a Barret M107 shoots about 6 MOA and for standard rifles such as the M24, sub 1MOA works.
@The11BJoe hitler coined the term. sturm gewher. Storm rifle, or assault rifle. I may have gotten the spelling wrong, but assault rifles were invented by the germans.
@labartic Yes, I know, the STG44, grand daddy of the modern rifle. That was an actual designation given, however. What I am saying is that in the actual gun industry, assault rifle is not a designation or model. Assault rifle is a term that began in the US with Clinton's idiotic assault rifle, later assault weapons, ban. It used characteristics such as a pistol grip, detachable magazine and flash suppressor as a way to classify weapon they thought civilians should not have. They were wrong.
@The11BJoe I agree that it was wrong, but there is a distinguishible difference between an assault rifle and a battle rifle. As it stands, the democrats incorrectly use the term assault rifle. An assault rifle is a weapon with very specific features, such as selective fire, a medium calibre rifle round, a pistol grip, and a detachable box magazine. As it stands, there is no assault rifle in the industry because they all lack one of those key features, and that is selective fire.
In basic shooting terminology you are correct and some weapons do have assault rifle in their name, the FN SCAR for example. In the Army we would generally just say rifle or the model designation, M4, M16, M24 etc. In competition, AR 15's and even the M14/M1A are usually referred to as tactical rifles, a better term, I think, and one more fitting. My liberal comment was just me being a dick. I do that sometimes. I am glad to see a lot of people here interested in shooting. It's a great sport.
@The11BJoe Ah I see. To me there's a distinguishable difference between a battle rifle (FAL, M14, M1 Garand) and an assault rifle (M16, AK-47, StG44). The SCAR is weird because it fires the full sized 7.62X51 NATO round or the the intermediate 5.56 round, so really it's either or depending on the chambering in my book. Of course, I'm a civilian with no military service, so I'm not too familiar with military terminology. As for the liberal comment, I actually think the media partly to blame.
@shdowhunt60 They are absolutely. I live in California and my state is ridiculous when it comes to any kind of modern firearm. Any semi auto rifle with a pistol grip and detachable magazine above .22 rim fire is considered an "assault rifle" here and is banned. Along with any magazine higher than 10 rounds. So, as you can see and I'm sure understand, a lot of us gun owners here are particular about the terms we use.
@The11BJoe Oh yes, the Glorious People's Republik of Kaliforniastan, thanks for the reminder of why I'm glad to live in Texas. Of course, it's always fun to dance around legal boundries. For instance, you can give a M1 Garand a EBR stock from Sage, similar to the M14 in the video, which gives the rifle a pistol grip, yet it's not legally considered an assault rifle due to the fact that the Garand's magazine is fixed and internal...
@shdowhunt60 Yeah, it's not that hard to dance around the laws and find loopholes, but it does require some serious nit picking. You are lucky to be in Texas though. I was stationed there at Fort Hood for a couple years and really enjoyed it.
@The11BJoe I mean, I saw a NBC news report where they repeatedly called AR-15s "black rifles", even though NOBODY calls them that. I've heard the term "assault rifle" applied to SKSs and M1 Carbines by the media.
Please realize that when I said the stock was plastic obviously I didnt mean all of it. But it is made from polymers (plastic) along with the aluminum to shield it from the heat. Of course its not 100% plastic!
I was just wondering, since I knew what the SEALs are/were using and the marines. I just wasn't sure what your set up was. I believe the m39 is using a krieger barrel. what do you think of the accuracy of the weapon? i've heard so many mixed things from everyone. i heard some times you guys get ones that can barely hold 2 MOA, while others are fine. what's your experience and do you like it more than the m110? thanks for the response and for everything you do!
@westcoast714 That's the thing with military designation. You change one thing - ONE! And you they have to give it a different number. There are so many variations on the M14 and the EBR.
They have the Mk14 w/ the 18" barrel
The M14 EBR RI is the ones the army are issued
and the Marines have the M39
Not to mention that you can buy an M1A (even an M21) and drop it in an EBR stock and heck, you got yourself an EBR.
hmm I'm deployed with a unit that uses the the M14 EBR extensively...reliable rifle, but due to the fact that they're semi auto, didn't give us alot in a long distant shot. The 24 was better. That and they had so many parts and pieces to the mount, that they didn't hold a zero well, especially if you used them alot. They didn't take abuse well, unlike the 24, the 110, and the 82. Just my two cents.
It strikes me that the effective range and penetration power of the M14 is superior to M16.
M14 would be particularly better suited to desert warfare, in the bald open topography of Central Asia, or in 3 dimensional fire fights from city high rises down to street level.
This particular performance looks solid. Recoil is well managed, though I wonder if a squad in proper rifle pits would be able to establish a Fire Lane with that weapon like BARs if they were required to do so.
@ROVIC111295 EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle) is what you see. Plastic instead of wood, bipod, adjustable stock. The M14 is like the one you get on COD Zombies for 500.
@xXbigballs36Xx If it is the real EBR stock from sage international which is what it looks like or even if it was the troy industries version they are both made from milled aluminum not made from plastic ...Aside from maybe forward grip and main grip and hand guards on the rails. And if of course you have the M4/M16 style extension tube you might have a plastic m4 style butt stock on it instead of the aluminum rail extendable stock provided. But the main chassis is not plastic.
@ROVIC111295 the M14 is not a sniper it's a Assault Rifle The M14 EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle) is a sniper it is scoped obviously and has a greater range then the M14
The m14 is not an assault rifle because it does not use an intermediate rifle caliber like the 5.56mm nato. It uses a full power rifle round, 7.62mm nato, which means it is a battle rifle. And the m14ebr is not a sniper rifle, it is still a battle rifle, it just has a different stock on which which allows for easy mounting of accessories.
A sniper rifle must shoot 1/2 MOA accuracy or better and an M14 pretty much doesnt shoot that well unless you spend a ton of money tweaking it.
@TheWWEFan12 learn2designate your weapons properly. M14EBR is a battle rifle, defined by its cartridge. It's not accurate enough to be a sniper rifle; it's used for designated marksmanship.
@labartic You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The M14 was an assault rifle because the 7.62 is an intermediate round if it isnt then the AK-47 is not an assault rifle. Navy SEALS use it as a sniper rifle. and the Army stop using and adopted the M16 because the M14 was too accurate and had too far of a range for vietnam engagements, it is being used now because it is more effective in the deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan
@1971Chevelle502 so 1200 ft/lbs of energy with a 5.56mm is intermediate, and 3,000 ft/lbs of energy with a 7.62mm is also intermediate? Youre an idiot. 7.62mm NATO is not the same as 7.62x39mm soviet.
@labartic I didnt say the were the same and i didnt say they were different. It dosent matter cause i view the old M14s as assault rifles because it was Americas first attempt at making one, also the 5.56 is a piece of fucking shit yeah its accurate but its to small for me id rather have an EBR than M4
Listen, it is you who obviously dont know shit about guns and ballistics. Why dont you go play some more video games where youre type of logic may be true.
@labartic isnt and correct me if im wrong. 7.62x39 is comparable to the 5.56.or .223 intermediate .but 7.62 x51 nato is not an intermediate. its just a butt hair under the 30.06
correct. the 7.62x39mm has about 2000 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle, the 5.56mm has about 1200 ft/lbs at the muzzle. 7.62x51mm nato has about 3000 ft/lbs at the muzzle.
@ROVIC111295 It's not PLASTIC, it takes the regular M14 and puts it in a "cradle", hence "Enhanced Battle Rifle" It's also known as the M21 EBR, the M14 is the assault rifle version as where the M21 is the sniper rifle version of the M14, back in Nam the M14 was such a great and accurate weapon they had a new version of it, The M21. The M14 EBR/M21 EBR adds RAS and adjustments to an already great weapon to make it more comfortable to the shooter and to add more tactical gear to it.
go pro would be sick!
AlphaZorks 3 days ago
@labartic.....idk where u get ur info from but the 5.56mm NATO has 3100GPS at the muzzle, that's why its hard to suppress it and that's the only thing it has going for it, its penetration capability. but lacks knockdown power.
jabolyn 3 months ago
the m14 uses a 7.62x51 round compared to a soviet 7.62x39 round is a world of a difference. 7.62x51 its accurate enough to be a sniper round, that's what is used on the marines m40 variations and the army m24.
jabolyn 3 months ago
The m14 is considered a battle rifle and no assault rifle means a light weight medium caliber rifle not just a term used by liberals to scare us u right wing ass...yes they use the term wrongfully but it has another meaning...do some research next time
cgo2551 3 months ago
I've done done plenty of research boy. If it means light weight rifle with a medium caliber, why is it that if I put my M1A into a pistol grip stock, it becomes considered an assault rifle? My mini 14 was lightweight and shot .223 but was not classified as one. I was in the Army for 6 years, I've been a competitive shooter all my life, no serious shooter uses the term as a true classification and the gun industry has never used it or laid out a guideline for it. It is a term, that simple.
The11BJoe 3 months ago
where can i buy this rifle?
weoaa 3 months ago
Let me put some of this crap to rest. First off, "assault rifle" is a term conjured up by retard liberals in an attempt to demonize certain types of long guns. Secondly, the EBR can be used as a sniper rifle, but is not considered one, and is generally used in the squad designated marksmen role (that's what my company used it for in Afghanistan). Thirdly, a sniper rifle does not have to shoot 1/2 MOA, a Barret M107 shoots about 6 MOA and for standard rifles such as the M24, sub 1MOA works.
The11BJoe 3 months ago
@The11BJoe hitler coined the term. sturm gewher. Storm rifle, or assault rifle. I may have gotten the spelling wrong, but assault rifles were invented by the germans.
labartic 3 months ago
@labartic Yes, I know, the STG44, grand daddy of the modern rifle. That was an actual designation given, however. What I am saying is that in the actual gun industry, assault rifle is not a designation or model. Assault rifle is a term that began in the US with Clinton's idiotic assault rifle, later assault weapons, ban. It used characteristics such as a pistol grip, detachable magazine and flash suppressor as a way to classify weapon they thought civilians should not have. They were wrong.
The11BJoe 3 months ago
@The11BJoe I agree that it was wrong, but there is a distinguishible difference between an assault rifle and a battle rifle. As it stands, the democrats incorrectly use the term assault rifle. An assault rifle is a weapon with very specific features, such as selective fire, a medium calibre rifle round, a pistol grip, and a detachable box magazine. As it stands, there is no assault rifle in the industry because they all lack one of those key features, and that is selective fire.
shdowhunt60 3 months ago
In basic shooting terminology you are correct and some weapons do have assault rifle in their name, the FN SCAR for example. In the Army we would generally just say rifle or the model designation, M4, M16, M24 etc. In competition, AR 15's and even the M14/M1A are usually referred to as tactical rifles, a better term, I think, and one more fitting. My liberal comment was just me being a dick. I do that sometimes. I am glad to see a lot of people here interested in shooting. It's a great sport.
The11BJoe 3 months ago
@The11BJoe Ah I see. To me there's a distinguishable difference between a battle rifle (FAL, M14, M1 Garand) and an assault rifle (M16, AK-47, StG44). The SCAR is weird because it fires the full sized 7.62X51 NATO round or the the intermediate 5.56 round, so really it's either or depending on the chambering in my book. Of course, I'm a civilian with no military service, so I'm not too familiar with military terminology. As for the liberal comment, I actually think the media partly to blame.
shdowhunt60 3 months ago
@shdowhunt60 They are absolutely. I live in California and my state is ridiculous when it comes to any kind of modern firearm. Any semi auto rifle with a pistol grip and detachable magazine above .22 rim fire is considered an "assault rifle" here and is banned. Along with any magazine higher than 10 rounds. So, as you can see and I'm sure understand, a lot of us gun owners here are particular about the terms we use.
The11BJoe 3 months ago
@The11BJoe Oh yes, the Glorious People's Republik of Kaliforniastan, thanks for the reminder of why I'm glad to live in Texas. Of course, it's always fun to dance around legal boundries. For instance, you can give a M1 Garand a EBR stock from Sage, similar to the M14 in the video, which gives the rifle a pistol grip, yet it's not legally considered an assault rifle due to the fact that the Garand's magazine is fixed and internal...
shdowhunt60 3 months ago
@shdowhunt60 Yeah, it's not that hard to dance around the laws and find loopholes, but it does require some serious nit picking. You are lucky to be in Texas though. I was stationed there at Fort Hood for a couple years and really enjoyed it.
The11BJoe 3 months ago
@The11BJoe Yeah, I love Texas. I don't want to live in any other state. Maybe except Florida, but not unless I get a good incentive.
shdowhunt60 3 months ago
@The11BJoe I mean, I saw a NBC news report where they repeatedly called AR-15s "black rifles", even though NOBODY calls them that. I've heard the term "assault rifle" applied to SKSs and M1 Carbines by the media.
shdowhunt60 3 months ago
This brings back memories of zeroing our M21's at Empire range in Panama. Thanks for the vid. 1S1K
gatordog586 4 months ago
Please realize that when I said the stock was plastic obviously I didnt mean all of it. But it is made from polymers (plastic) along with the aluminum to shield it from the heat. Of course its not 100% plastic!
xXbigballs36Xx 4 months ago
Is that the M14 EBR RI?
MavHunter20XX 4 months ago
@m14Lover308
CLASSIC! :)
Semper Fi! Brother!
kimbiwa 4 months ago
I was just wondering, since I knew what the SEALs are/were using and the marines. I just wasn't sure what your set up was. I believe the m39 is using a krieger barrel. what do you think of the accuracy of the weapon? i've heard so many mixed things from everyone. i heard some times you guys get ones that can barely hold 2 MOA, while others are fine. what's your experience and do you like it more than the m110? thanks for the response and for everything you do!
westcoast714 4 months ago
so that's an m14 EBR, not the m39 EMR like the marines use?
westcoast714 4 months ago
@westcoast714 That's the thing with military designation. You change one thing - ONE! And you they have to give it a different number. There are so many variations on the M14 and the EBR.
They have the Mk14 w/ the 18" barrel
The M14 EBR RI is the ones the army are issued
and the Marines have the M39
Not to mention that you can buy an M1A (even an M21) and drop it in an EBR stock and heck, you got yourself an EBR.
MavHunter20XX 4 months ago
I this me or does the M14 make a slight "ping" sound when being fired ?
oOCrossroadsOo 5 months ago
@oOCrossroadsOo when you actually shoot one you dont hear any kind of ping, at least i dont.
dirtbikedude100 4 months ago
@dirtbikedude100 : It must be the camera that recorded the sound like this.
oOCrossroadsOo 4 months ago
I think thats a M14 DMR...Whatever though.
TheReviewAirsoft 5 months ago
@TheReviewAirsoft The DMR has a Mcmillan stock. The one you're seeing is a Sage EBR
MavHunter20XX 4 months ago
hmm I'm deployed with a unit that uses the the M14 EBR extensively...reliable rifle, but due to the fact that they're semi auto, didn't give us alot in a long distant shot. The 24 was better. That and they had so many parts and pieces to the mount, that they didn't hold a zero well, especially if you used them alot. They didn't take abuse well, unlike the 24, the 110, and the 82. Just my two cents.
swkavin 5 months ago
It strikes me that the effective range and penetration power of the M14 is superior to M16.
M14 would be particularly better suited to desert warfare, in the bald open topography of Central Asia, or in 3 dimensional fire fights from city high rises down to street level.
This particular performance looks solid. Recoil is well managed, though I wonder if a squad in proper rifle pits would be able to establish a Fire Lane with that weapon like BARs if they were required to do so.
centurion180ad 7 months ago
What's the difference between M14 and the M14 EBR? more accurate or comfortable or something?
ROVIC111295 7 months ago
@ROVIC111295 EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle) is what you see. Plastic instead of wood, bipod, adjustable stock. The M14 is like the one you get on COD Zombies for 500.
xXbigballs36Xx 7 months ago 19
@xXbigballs36Xx not really since it has 8 rounds rather than 20 :)
MrSilver497 6 months ago
@xXbigballs36Xx The EBR stock is made of aluminum and steel.
MavHunter20XX 4 months ago
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D3MON3Y3Z 4 months ago
@xXbigballs36Xx If it is the real EBR stock from sage international which is what it looks like or even if it was the troy industries version they are both made from milled aluminum not made from plastic ...Aside from maybe forward grip and main grip and hand guards on the rails. And if of course you have the M4/M16 style extension tube you might have a plastic m4 style butt stock on it instead of the aluminum rail extendable stock provided. But the main chassis is not plastic.
D3MON3Y3Z 4 months ago
@xXbigballs36Xx Heh, I always think it's kinda funny how soldiers like to play video games.
GamePath 3 months ago
@xXbigballs36Xx that was basically and M1A i think... lol just trollin man rock on
garrettzkool63 3 months ago
@xXbigballs36Xx I love the call of duty black op reference lol
xXcorpitoXx 6 days ago
@ROVIC111295 the M14 is not a sniper it's a Assault Rifle The M14 EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle) is a sniper it is scoped obviously and has a greater range then the M14
TheWWEFan12 3 months ago
The m14 is not an assault rifle because it does not use an intermediate rifle caliber like the 5.56mm nato. It uses a full power rifle round, 7.62mm nato, which means it is a battle rifle. And the m14ebr is not a sniper rifle, it is still a battle rifle, it just has a different stock on which which allows for easy mounting of accessories.
A sniper rifle must shoot 1/2 MOA accuracy or better and an M14 pretty much doesnt shoot that well unless you spend a ton of money tweaking it.
labartic 3 months ago
@labartic ok whatever kid
TheWWEFan12 3 months ago
@TheWWEFan12 got sand in your pussy? go learn something, then post comments.
labartic 3 months ago
@TheWWEFan12 learn2designate your weapons properly. M14EBR is a battle rifle, defined by its cartridge. It's not accurate enough to be a sniper rifle; it's used for designated marksmanship.
subaru84 3 months ago
@labartic You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The M14 was an assault rifle because the 7.62 is an intermediate round if it isnt then the AK-47 is not an assault rifle. Navy SEALS use it as a sniper rifle. and the Army stop using and adopted the M16 because the M14 was too accurate and had too far of a range for vietnam engagements, it is being used now because it is more effective in the deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan
1971Chevelle502 3 months ago
@1971Chevelle502 so 1200 ft/lbs of energy with a 5.56mm is intermediate, and 3,000 ft/lbs of energy with a 7.62mm is also intermediate? Youre an idiot. 7.62mm NATO is not the same as 7.62x39mm soviet.
labartic 3 months ago
@labartic I didnt say the were the same and i didnt say they were different. It dosent matter cause i view the old M14s as assault rifles because it was Americas first attempt at making one, also the 5.56 is a piece of fucking shit yeah its accurate but its to small for me id rather have an EBR than M4
1971Chevelle502 3 months ago
Listen, it is you who obviously dont know shit about guns and ballistics. Why dont you go play some more video games where youre type of logic may be true.
labartic 3 months ago
@labartic i hate cod its fake as shit, bf3 is way better
1971Chevelle502 3 months ago
@labartic isnt and correct me if im wrong. 7.62x39 is comparable to the 5.56.or .223 intermediate .but 7.62 x51 nato is not an intermediate. its just a butt hair under the 30.06
frezdead1 3 months ago
correct. the 7.62x39mm has about 2000 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle, the 5.56mm has about 1200 ft/lbs at the muzzle. 7.62x51mm nato has about 3000 ft/lbs at the muzzle.
labartic 3 months ago
@ROVIC111295 m14 from the vietnam war all they've done is updated it
masterboycblack 3 months ago
@ROVIC111295 It's not PLASTIC, it takes the regular M14 and puts it in a "cradle", hence "Enhanced Battle Rifle" It's also known as the M21 EBR, the M14 is the assault rifle version as where the M21 is the sniper rifle version of the M14, back in Nam the M14 was such a great and accurate weapon they had a new version of it, The M21. The M14 EBR/M21 EBR adds RAS and adjustments to an already great weapon to make it more comfortable to the shooter and to add more tactical gear to it.
TRAUMAeagle 2 months ago
@TRAUMAeagle : the M21 EBR does not exist... it's either an M14 EBR or an M21, but not both.
CrossroadsReloaded 1 week ago
@ROVIC111295 It is dropped in a Sage Intl chassis and quite a bit more accurate
APDECHO2 2 days ago
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@ROVIC111295 It is dropped in a Sage Intl chassis and quite a bit more accurate
APDECHO2 2 days ago
Aint the EBR use as a designer marksman Rifle rather than a sniper rifle?
MrSilver497 8 months ago
@MrSilver497 Designated Marksman Rifle yes
AtomSmashr 6 months ago
Is M110 better than M14 EBR in your opinion?
EmperorPalpa 1 year ago
@EmperorPalpa id say reliability wise the EBR is better but the M110 is more accurate and comes with a silencer!
xXbigballs36Xx 1 year ago
i like the M14a1 better than this new EBR stuff their trying to pull
bullpupaug 1 year ago
good luck whenn ever u get shiped
aidenrrr 2 years ago
EBR flw
Oxstayne 2 years ago
i luv ur videos btw r u in the military
Daggbm 2 years ago
@Daggbm No shit sherlock
SPARTAN1T 1 year ago
Hey man. You're videos are very cool. You should definitely get the helmet cam.
CaptainAmerica322 2 years ago 6
yeah i plan on it man. ill have a bunch of cool videos from afghanistan
xXbigballs36Xx 2 years ago 7