A Protocell Forming from Fatty Acids

[Kaslefol]

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW ?!

[5tonyvvvv]

Atheist fail to realize many things..the theatrical protocell is bullshit..its an assumption..these cells dont function This is pure imagination..I asked my chemistry professor how long could a human live without kidneys liver and a heart? and how could this cell function?..I got no answer..

[BenEin33]

ew. I got shivers, that looks pretty gross. so creepy crawly. and inside my body.

[orcodrilo]

Nice! among the very first steps of life! 5*

[lendusaquid]

The way evolution is taught is utter pants.Just one evolutionary tree?.How about hundreds or more.Me might be related to apes but that is a different tree to anything else.A horse is not related to any other animal unless it is in its own tree.

[leecristo]

What are you talking about?

Are you saying that we do not share a common ancestor with other vertebrates, like horses? That makes no sense. It was unlikely enough for things like vertebrates to evolve once. How could it happen many times?

How do you explain analogous structures and organs like the 7 neck vertebrae shared by all mammals?

[Playitalready]

any1 know why the top comment being replied to is hidden? i heard protocells were never proven its just an idea so is this vid lying or somin? n isnt darwins theory seperate from abiogenesis? evolution is true but not the way darwin said it and abiogenesis isnt science till proven. see my evolution vid on that

[leecristo]

It just got so many thumb downs...I don't remember what it said, but it obviously didn't make sense.

Yeah, evolution and abiogenesis are separate theories. Honestly though, very little is actually proven in science. Abiogenesis is science regardless of whether it's proven or not. It's still a proposed explanation of the origin of life.

[Playitalready]

how is it science if its never proven and all efforts become more futile?? how is it any more science than intelligant design?

[leecristo]

I already told you, science isn't about proving things for certain. A lot of things can be proven beyond any reasonable doubt, but not everything. If thinking about something that can't be proven is futile to you, then why would you say anything about religion, evolution, or the origin of life at all?

Science is about data, observation, and conclusion. The difference between that and ID is that ID concludes, then creates and manipulates data and observation.

[Playitalready]

u already admitted there has never been any observation of abiogenesis occuring and the data shows 100% failure, so the conclusion is it's a poorly made faith based idea. id rather look into the vedic model, from the most reliable/valid source that can somewhat be observed from the data and make the best possible conclusion based on logic and the evidence at hand. but if your faith is otherwise never mind just letting u know

[leecristo]

You've got it wrong there. The observation is that there are species and species have evolved. We see through the fossil record that organisms have come to resemble modern species over time. The only explanation that doesn't involve envoking the supernatural is abiogenesis. Abiogenesis is simply how life first occurred. There are many proposed models for it, and I don't believe in any specific one.

[5tonyvvvv]

@Playitalready Atheist fail to realize many things..the theatrical protocell is bullshit..its an assumption..these cells dont function This is pure imagination..I asked my chemistry professor how long could a human live without kidneys liver and a heart? and how could this cell function?..I got no answer you would have a nobel prize,if you solved homochirality..

[5tonyvvvv]

@Playitalready abiogenesis is impossible..

[Playitalready]

you should see my evolution vid and the links within

later

[leecristo]

I really don't like getting into Youtube debates. They're pointless. I know I'm not going to change your opinions or beliefs. Honestly, you're probably not going to change my views either, especially if anything else you're going to say resembles what you've said already. Nothing you've told me so far has made any real impression.

[Playitalready]

agreed. sometimes i feel obliged to confront or ask about things. i guess if u have faith in abiogenesis or all of darwinism, as i did through college (but i was open minded enough to change) the unproven/illogical aspects will be ignored by u just as christians do the same. its cool, if i didnt accidently read 1 convo and only had the bias 1 sided lectures from school id be like u. believing in something wont make it true anyhow. if u want a more advanced model of evolution see my vid/the links

[leecristo]

I watched your video. You seem to be making a huge error in that you confuse supernatural religious things with scientific things.

Don't bring a soul to a scientific debate, because there's no evidence that it exists.

[Truth0is0beauty]

That's the problem with debates in general!

My quibble with youtube debates is the fact that whenever I scroll through a debate I've had, I feel like kicking whichever bonehead designed the comments system!

[1RadicalOne]

I disagree; often times I meet (or, more often, others with more well-known accounts) meet those who thank them for helping them "wake up" and "open their eyes".

But yes, debating here on the topic of evolution is pointless.

[Cnidarious]

The Taxonomic Tree of life i think is what your trying to describe.

Horse, man, Chimpmunk, Clownfish, etc.. are all a part of the same taxonomic tree but in different branches.

Its through this Branching effect that life diversifies into different taxonomic groupings such as Domain-Kingdom-Phylum-classes-­Order-family-Genus until finally the species.

All life on earth can have its origins traced this way.

[bejayswimmer]

Indeed you are correct, one tree, separate branches. Common ancestry will represent the splitting of one of the branches.

[AhmadJohnson0930]

And then what?

[dancingnature]

"And then what?"

cdk007 vid explains the rest of this very well

origins of life- abiogenesis

watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg

[c0ntini0us]

I see it already happening!!! its gona keep growing and growing till it becomes a blob like feature with a hunger for human cells to keep growing and kill us ALL.!! Save me Jill Valentine!!

[Loning]

Great evidence showing how God has given even the most primitive forms of life the ability to survive and reproduce under different conditions.

[lugunas]

........You do realize that this basicly debunks any need of a god anymore...right?

[geimd03]

Moronic statement ever.

[lugunas]

Normally, I'd laugh at you for not knowing what this means, but you have venomfangx favorited, and thats more damage then I can ever do lol. Btw, vfx and kent hovind are fucktards, and so is anyone who doesn't believe in evolution.

[Loning]

haha! i love making evolutionists mad. They always tend to think that this "new" evidence proves something..yet it proves crap. Most of it just ends up pointing TO not away from the existence of a God.

[Octamed]

um, no one got mad. Why do people who use the word 'evolutionist' always say that?

The closest thing to mad I see people getting is the almost disappointment to realise just how proud some people are about not knowing or caring how things work.

People will believe whatever they want to and no amount of evidence will stop them, it's human nature unfortunately.

[tingtangs]

Loning: How does this point to the existence of a God? It's a purely natural process. And again, it isn't even a life form!

[SolRosenberg84]

Most of it just ends up pointing TO not away from the existence of a God.

^^^^

Science does not comment on the supernatural. How about you try reading a textbook or checking out an academic archive instead of listening to VenomfangX? You might, you know, actually learn something created through research and evidence, and not through an unregulated, factless rumor mill.

[tophooey]

Loning is correct in asserting this does not prove how life began. It provides a plausible way that cell membranes might have formed from accumulations of lipids. However, he is incorrect in his assertion that this in any way points to the "existence" of God. You can't prove God....likewise you cannot disprove God. The concept of God is based upon an irrational but powerful psychological condition that humans nurture called "faith". Faith is a precept of religious belief, NOT scientific belief.

[supermanserna1]

@tophooey

OKAY hi any way I just want to put a brief comment, it is not irrational if you have the proper educational background and as well as believing in the big bang or in God they are both religious because you cant observe either so both are religious, not science. Faith is believing is something that you can not see and observe. The study of science is something that you can Observe and test so you create a theory until your theory has been proved other wise this is the process of science

[5tonyvvvv]

@tophooey you would have a nobel prize,if you solved homochirality..

[5tonyvvvv]

@tophooey Protocells are theoretical nonsense, they have nothing to do with origin of life, you still have the homochirality problem, also jack does not create life he copies and borrows pre existing information to get his reactions going!

[dancingnature]

this just shows a fatty acid vesicle forming

the proto life actually formed is more complex that this vid which only elucidated how a simple cell membrane formed

here's the rest of what we currently know about abiogenesis

watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg

[Ryloth123321]

sadly there is no god....

and if there was humans certainly wouldnt know who or what he really is because we are just one tiny planet in fucking big universe and i wonder if he/it would bother to send us some signs that COULD be pretended to come from him instead of showing hims/itself to us directly -_-

evolution can be proven

god cannot be proven

therefore i dont believe i god but in science

if u need god to fill up the emptiness and insecureness inside of u fine but please dont spread lies.

[Playitalready]

believe in science? evolution is true but parts of abiogenesis and darwins theory ARENT scientific or logical so u contridicted yourself. we should admit this and look into vedic evolution afterwards. every species we know of is probably out there somewhere at every minute, and then some. unless you were alive 4 billion years ago your no 1 to say if life came from matter or a higher form of life. most of the time theres underpopulation/more resources (puncuated equilibream) see my evolution vid

[Playitalready]

you know sometime back they would lol if you said there are tiny organisms or light that maybe "invisable" to the human eye you need stuff to see it yet they were always there as were the signs and sometimes those who are able to see God directly are lol at that dont mean there aint 1 thas your belief and i heard God ascends to the earth like 1nce in every X amount of millenia and is seen directly just cause u aint seen your daddy dont mean you dont have 1 life comes from life case closed

[tingtangs]

Except these aren't alive, Loning.

[lugunas]

Congratulations scientists, Kent Hovind is shaking now! Both from this new discovery and from getting a number 2 delux from big bubba in cell block 6.

[ironchopsticks]

Just another nail in the "Buy-Bull's" coffin. Besides, christianity is 300 years past its expiration date.

[YouDontKnowMike]

This has nothing to do with the bible. It *does* however have to do with the origin of life (not to be confused with the origin of existence which CERN is working on). The bible is irrelevant.

[ironchopsticks]

what do you think the buy-bull explains in the very beg in genesis? the origin of life! that's why they adamantly refute abiogenesis big bang theory and evolution, because it pokes giant holes in their illogical beliefs.

if the field of physics has a theory equally as powerful as evolution, you can say bye-bye to christianity. more like good riddance.

[haole80]

this is complete chaos...the world is coming to and end ...hahahaha

[KingdomsCosplayer]

Hmmm next thing u know they wanna bring people out of games.....-_-;

[THUGFUSION]

YEA THAT SHYT WOULD BE KOOL

[imwhy]

i dont understand. is this thing really living and sustaining itself?

[vinak963]

no, its forming a container in which organic material can be trapped in a protected environment where it can eventually replicate itself.

[imwhy]

container? like our body ? sorry for sounding ignorant but its really interesting:) if its just a container for something else to live in, so whats the hype about? its not like they created the life thing itself.

[YouDontKnowMike]

Basically the "container" that is being referred to is like a human cell. It will eventually contain DNA, RNA, macromolecules and other protein assemblers. Technically it's just the walls of a building, but it's an *organic* building that can eventually replicate and form new structures on its own.

[vinak963]

container as in a cell membrane. this protects organic material(RNA/DNA) from the elements and helps in self replication. under certain conditions this membrane will divide taking some of the organic material with it allowing further replication. eventually evolution takes place making the process more advanced and the organic material starts to contain helpful information. keep in mind that these cells are very primitive and will not resemble anything currently living today.

[sydspoetry]

actually this is over-rated.its mostly interesting because its a practical demonstration of a older theory about how life could have formed. Dual-layer lipids self-assemble into sphere's if there ends aren't tethered; enclosing a piece of self-templating molecule in it isn't rocket science either. Its the beginning to what will *be* interesting - a self-enclosed, self-replicating, energy-harvesting artificial life-form :) He's got 2 of 3. Assuming his replicating portion also encodes the lipids

[precioussweetie4u]

Szostak! Way to go!

[maniac302]

cool

[tequilaburp]

OMG that was disgusting

[Pillzy23]

Weird.. but I dont get it D:!

[YouDontKnowMike]

The implications of scientists being able to create life are huge. Will an artificial (multi-celled) life form be subject to all the same rights that natural life has? Can a multi-celled life form be "programmed" into existence? Are we playing God? Did we just prove that God doesn't need to exist since genesis can be spurred by humans?

Will this be the next zombie movie to bite us in the ass?

I guess we'll find out.

[stephengerondakis]

lol

[spark300c]

not real life all it a bubble. All full functional cells are so complex. The so many redox reactions going that will manke your head spin. all cell have chemicals that want to react with each other. It constantly use fuel to generate energy to keep certain chemicals from reacting. Also engery also use to power orgaintic micro processer the governs the cells actions. This what failer mode that is cell wall with no stuff in it.

[Nutcasenightmare]

True, the video title is 'A PROTOCELL Forming from Fatty Acids'. Add amino acids, (which are natural polymers) put it near a deep sea vent, (to literally stir things up) the cell will split with more-or-less heredity, the ones with the right type of amino acids will propagate more...

and maybe then we can call it 'life'. Really, there ARE no distinct boundaries between life, fat bubbles, and crap floating around in an ocean. (God, that was painfully nihilistic.)

[worldwarthreeblues]

Primordial soup confirmed

[spark300c]

still lifeless because it can not generate electricity. All it is glorified bubble.

[Seffyzero]

You obviously know nothing of biology and what constitutes as "life".

[5tonyvvvv]

@Seffyzero Atheist fail to realize many things..the theatrical protocell is bullshit..its an assumption..these cells dont function This is pure imagination..I asked my chemistry professor how long could a human live without kidneys liver and a heart? and how could this cell function?..I got no answer, you would have a nobel prize,if you solved homochirality..Abiogenesis is impossible

[Seffyzero]

@5tonyvvvv Cute.

[5tonyvvvv]

@Seffyzero Protocells are theoretical nonsense, they have nothing to do with origin of life, you still have the homochirality problem, also jack does not create life he copies and borrows pre existing information to get his reactions going!

[Seffyzero]

@5tonyvvvv Really cute.

[dzec82]

This is, for now, the stupidest thing i heard...

[rotatingwah]

i'm curious what the whitish floating particles are and why they move in the manner they do. possibly from currents created by the activity of the fatty acids doing their thing? anyone know? interesting video. thanks for posting.

[dismutased]

Not sure what they are but the motion is probably 'brownian' motion. Particles that size get knocked about by the energy and random fluctuation of atoms and other larger particles in a fluid.

[ndjarnag]

way too short.

[StarWarsDork]

Looks like a party.

[pinkprince3000]

A party i want to join >_o

[darkmojojojo]

Very cool.

[xXLilGeVeXx]

cool

[AllToastesToastToast]

Nice