Carol Lynn Price: Super Patriot

[twizelby]

HAHAHA SILENT MAJORITY!?!?! HAHAHA all the presidents HAVE HAD to say they were Christian to get elected ever since Clinton! WHO gives a crap if gays get married? Its not our business!

[duhhhitsjustin]

Is this a joke?

[Prowler1]

waset of my tume :=

[garvess]

I really can't think of a name bad enough to call her. I am at a loss for words.

[expressions2006]

Call who? Carol Lynn Price or the actress who plays her (and, I'm sure, wrote the piece)?

[1d10cy]

This is funny but then I remember that some people will take this seriously.

[dowling1981]

Have you seen them when they fall, 1d10cy?

[1d10cy]

when they fall?

[1d10cy]

wtf?

[dowling1981]

Never mind. What is your opinion on Allan Gore?

[1d10cy]

Al Gore, well, ultimately, he's just another man on a band wagon to me

[dowling1981]

what band wagon is this?

[1d10cy]

the political band wagon, I think they are all ultimately part of the same hypocracy, Democrats, Republicans, all corporate middle men between the people and the corporate community, usually with personal ties with them too. The system is the problem, Capitalism, and no before you ask, I don't think Communism is the answer, both are hypocracies.

[1d10cy]

I know what you're thinking, environmentalist, right? Is he?

[1d10cy]

but I will aslo say, that truthfully, I do not know what to think of him, not from any researched perspective, I have not seen his film, just heard the jist of it. I never needed any convincing on the matter, so have not had it on the top of my to do list.

[dowling1981]

I hear you, but I think democracy is the lesser of many much worse catastrophic political systems. No real alternative - what we need is faith in our politcians, which due to past form and human nature is hard to come by. Im not american, but i know in britain we have similar problems of trust. However I think our new leader Brown is less of a showman than Blair, and hence more real, which is a good thing

[1d10cy]

Did you see his speach along side Bush today, praising America for their war on terrorism, we will stand together, and all that? I think you are mistaken if you think that he is a good man. Frankly we do not live in a democracy, nobody has ever done,

[1d10cy]

our use of the word Democracy is as mistaken a lable as Socialism was to Communism, we live in Capitalism, I know it is a word for the ecenomical system, but money is power, and power controls government. I am for true democracy, and true socialism, neither have ever been implimented, both have the same meaning in true form.

[dowling1981]

I hear what you say, 1d10cy, and you are speaking sense, but I don't think true democracy could ever actually exist due to the way people are, the vital importance of money (which although selfish and capitalist driven does create a strong economy which in turn makes a better life for those less fortunate at least POSSIBLE), and the inevitable corrupting force of power.

[1d10cy]

The labour party is supposedly socialist, yet that is a missused label too. Capitalism is capitalism, economy comes before people when you get down to the bare facts, foreign or domestic policies.

[dowling1981]

Without denying the many shortcomings of our leaders, we must recognise that compared to many (even the majority of) other economic and political systems in the world we are extremely fortunate to live in a society where we can make money, do pretty much what we like and even have discussions such as these.

[1d10cy]

We must not though, become complaicent in our system, even Germany before ww1 was one of the most free nations in the world, look what become of them in the 1930's. Things are happening which are not deomcratic right here in UK.

[1d10cy]

Yes but the vast majority of our nation wants one thing and our leaders do another, our televised discussions are one side of the establishment against the other side of the establishment.

[dowling1981]

Do you think that ID cards will provide the government et al with more information about us that they couldn't already access if they wanted to? I know that's the principle of the thing - that they shouldn't be able to know things about us but even with this information what do you think they are going to do with it?

[1d10cy]

Richard Nixon was not much of a showman either, that's got no sway in reality, and the PM has a lot of groups to please, a lot of well informed self interest groups, who you have to please if you are the figure head of a nation.

[1d10cy]

''objectively lookin at the world, y'know what y'all? Your the only people alive on the Earth today, all the people that created tradition, created countries, and created rules, them fuckers are dead. Why don't you start your own world while you got the chance.''

-Bill Hicks

[1d10cy]

what do you think of our upcomming (2009) ID cards? £1,000 fine for non-compliance, optional for start of scheme, then soon after, manditory, includes retinal and finger print scans, wouldn't be surprised if DNA was taken too.

[dowling1981]

Even with ID cards (which yes are a waste of time and money), I don't think these fundamentals are in any danger. Until they are, without wishing to sound flippant, most will carry on as normal in this, "the best of all possible worlds" (Voltaire)

[1d10cy]

Did you know that the UK is ranked 23 in the Democratic Index, right below Greece? Do you really want to live in a nation which will have these ID cards, which are obvious to most that they wont stop terrorism? What are they for? Let's face it what's an ID card gonna do to stop someone blowing themselves up? I will send you a link on the laws coming, very disturbing.

[dowling1981]

Yes, thanks for the link (I have sent it on to some people who I know will interested), it is very eye-opening and somewhat of a surprise.

[1d10cy]

did I send you the ID cards information LINK?

[1d10cy]

Never mind, I must have looking at the comments, I thought I only sent the Dem Index link, sorry ignore my other comment.

[1d10cy]

I will personally refuse an ID card and will refuse to pay a fine, they will have to take me to court or jail or both

[dowling1981]

Me too, and everyone I know - Surely 60 million in this nation can't be wrong? I'm interested - when you tell people of these concerns, do a lot of them just put it down to post-modernist paranoia?

[1d10cy]

Well, a lot seem like they don't like the idea, but something tells me that a lot don't really see the implications of the whole thing.

[dowling1981]

In the future, what do you think the worst case scenario possible is?

[1d10cy]

Look up Eastern Germany, look up the STASI, we already have cameras everywhere, the average person is caught on cctv about 600 times a day, programmes whereby key words activate a recording of tel calls and E-mails are already in effect and not hidden, what key words exactly? In USA under the Patriot Act your library book records are checked, EVERYONES IS UNDER SCRUTINY, various things may come of UK, unpredictable really.

[1d10cy]

Privacy is lost, and individuality will be next, unless we recognise the implications.

[dowling1981]

How can someone take away your own individuality? Surely that is an inherent thing within yourself. They may know concrete facts about you but these revelations give nothing away about who you really are.

[1d10cy]

The ID cards wont take away individuality, no, but, what will stem from mass databases of info on everyone? Once we get used to the idea of DNA databases, it is only a matter of time before commercial interests get such schemes, like insurance companies wanting to know future health risks of 'customers'.

[1d10cy]

We are already depoliticised beyond belief, unions are replaced by agencies, nobody gets involved in groups or local government, neighbours don't interact, television stations programmed by multi-national conglomerates tell us our news, even bbc is a corporation.

[1d10cy]

Individuality is heavily weeded out of the population in the 'education' system, smart kids too, thrown out of the system for being an individual aka 'behavioural problem' or back answers aka questions authority/leader, you have to agree with the system just to get to the top of it, or at least have the sense at a young age to make it look like you agree.

[1d10cy]

The populus has been removed from the political system, even the vote is now for minor differences in parties, policy wise.

[dowling1981]

Have you ever read '1984'? Do you think anythng resembling that is a possilibity in the future?

[1d10cy]

To tell you the truth, I have it on my shelf but have not got round to reading it, I buy books online, so order a few, sort of in bulk, I'm buisy reading Greg Palast's Armed Madhouse, and the next one on my to do list is, 'Web of Deceit:Britains Real Role in the World' by Mark Curtis with foreword by John Pilger. 1984 will have to wait.

[dowling1981]

Are you kidding me?? This ID card/Big Brother distopia that you are warning people against is at its zenith in the 'ahead of its time' book '1984'. '1984' is the ID card/ Big Brother nightmare and is the only 'warning' of its kind that people will generally recognise. Don't get me wrong, I can tell that you are very intelligent and that you are well aware of what you are talking about but the fact that you haven't read '1984' is a bit of shock to me

[1d10cy]

Yeah, but lets not forget it is a fiction, I have this book because I have heard that it covers such issues, but I have a lot of books of factual content covering these things, and they come first, like I said I will give it a read after Mark Curtis' book. They say reality is stranger than fiction anyway. I have many books to read still. There are so many.

[dowling1981]

Yes but much fiction is inspired or derived from real fears or hopes or sensibilities of the time in which the book was written. And '1984' was written amid similar paranoia that we have today.

[1d10cy]

Yes, that's why it's on my to do list. There are many books to read on the matter. In fact more than one by George Orwell. And a whole library of others. And I'm not sure paranoia has the right connotation. Cynicism, I would say.

[dowling1981]

Which other books would you suggest?

[1d10cy]

Noam Chomsky's Understanding Power, John Pilger's The New Rulers of the World, Alexander Cockburn, Greg Palast, John Pilger's Hidden Agendas, Mark Thomas, Michael C. Ruppert's Crossing the Rubicon, Brigadier General Smedley D. Butler's War Is a Racket, Stephen Handelman's Comrade Criminal (on 90's Russia) Anything by Noam Chomsky.

[1d10cy]

As for fiction, Homage to Catalonia by Orwell, Animal Farm by Orwell, Brave New World by Aldous Huxley, Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk, and I like Hunter S. Thompson's books (my favourite author) and Charles Bukowski although these last two are not directly on the subject, there is more than just an undertone of anger at the system.

[1d10cy]

I would also highly recommend Niccolo Machiavelli's The Prince, as this is a book prized by politicians, and once read you can see why, it's basically a manual of how to manipulate, very interesting. Also read by criminal syndicate bosses, lol, but true.

[dowling1981]

OK I'll check them out. You like Hunter S Thompson - have you ever read 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas'?

[1d10cy]

Yes, a few times, it is great. Have you read it?

[1d10cy]

I've read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, The Rum Diary, Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail, Hey Rube, and I have read Oscar Zeta Acosta's The Autobiography of a Brown Buffalo (Oscar Zeta Acosta is Hunter S. Thompsons Attorney and this book has them meeting for the first time, drugs involved)

[1d10cy]

(the Samoan) really Mexican.

[dowling1981]

Yes I've read its a great book. Have you read 'Naked Lunch'? That is an even more leftfield book

[1d10cy]

No but it rings a bell, (I don't go for the left and right stuff) liberal/conservative, makes no sense to me, I was liberal with my sugar in my tea, and conservative in the betting shop.

[dowling1981]

No I mean 'leftfield' as in 'surreal and outlandish', not in a political sense

[1d10cy]

oh,

[1d10cy]

I will check out that book 'Naked Lunch'.

[dowling1981]

tell me what you think

[1d10cy]

STAZI, is the English spelling,

[Glans]

hahaha, funny

but the thing is, the democratic party isn't a leftist party, they're liberal and liberalism isn't left

the only diffence between the democrats and the republicans seems to be that they don't start wars so if i was american i'd probably vote for the democrats

[ONRADAR124]

Under cover Democrats, like this, are hilarious!

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[riptide30]

Awesome.  This is the right time for Carol Lynn.

[RCFriedman]

So good, I've subscribed!  Keep up the good work.

[aGua421]

ROFL

[UncleIrv]

Satire works on the principle of EXAGERATION. What is being exagerated here is not actually Ann Coulter, but the LIBERAL PERCEPTION of Ann Coulter. This is very revealing of just how far Ann Coulter's points pass "over the heads" of liberals, the thick-sculled bigotted intolerant morons that they are.

[CarolLynn]

Don't accuse me of exageration. I NEVER exagerate.

My point is that liberals are stupid, Stalin-loving, monkey kissing, idiots and they are all hung like fungus gnats.

But TRY to explain that to a liberal and they just get hostile.

[pimphofoo]

hilarious. Ann coulter gives me nightmares.

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[grannyc39]

Fantastic...

[clegg2121]

That's pretty good.

[TheJesusWarranty]

lmao this is awesome

[yertter]

This is dumb, but it did make me smirk a little.

[dianawolf]

LOVE IT!

thanks so much. bring us more!

[TinyTT]

this is both disturbing and scary. She is wrong headed and extreme ebough to make pat robertson look sane. i hope no one takes this seriously

[dianawolf]

exactly... that is her... and satire's point.

this is political satire aimed at the likes of ann coulter.

[ajk70112]

Carol needs an adams apple.

[indeterminacy]

This is classic and will put Ann Coulter out of business. And Carol Lynn's hotter too.