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  • THEY ARE CALLED HOMO SAPIENS, NOT BLOODY CRO MAGNONS, that literally made me flip a table. please get the correct information!

  • А Я САМОЛЁТ,А НЕ СКОРАЯ ПОМОЩЬ!

  • The privledged will go underground.And when its over,Anyone that survived the outside will be killed off by the ones that went inside.

  • thanks for give me so much depressing info

    

  • Viruses die in a matter of an hour max they don'' lie dormant in ice this is pure nonsnese ans speculation.

  • @BOATRIGHTGOLF Viruses die? How can you kill something that doesn't live? Viruses are semi-living crystals, not truly living. So what kills a living organism doesn't necesserely effect a virus.

  • First part of this video is dumb we are so many trillions of miles away that it's irrelevant our sun is 90 million miles away and just happens to be right where Venus just a hair closer is on fire.

  • What are we going to do about it? We will colonize the motherfucking space that's what.

  • What a depressing vid!!! After all that trouble.......the World Ends......No Hope.....another Dooms Day vid.......Ho Hum. Time to turn to Jesus!

  • What's with the Star Trek music?

  • We have to learn how to live in space! 8|

  • pause at 38:51 and press snow button

  • @saxotido The snow button is gone, dammit!

  • @SiccWeed :( That button was awesome!

  • I'm going to have to request that you kill your self now. This is very negative and ummm at every turn the end is nigh. So just do it. Get to the chopper!

  • Whoever put this video together went to a lot of effort, and really did their homework. This is better than documentaries that you would see on free to air, or Discovery, the History Channel,and so on, because it cuts to the chase, and is packed with researched,factual findings from start to finish. It has a compelling chronological synthesis about it -it takes no undue liberties with the facts - and it stands in stark contrast to the reams of jibberish which so many hoons tend to upload.

  • hey man, just a wonderful video... how long did it take to you to gather all those shots? I plan on making my own, say, a bit philosofic video made of various shots, like this... I would like to know how mzch time and patience it takes...

  • soooooooo goooodd :D

  • I love this guys videos. They may just be theories, but he always puts enough in there to make you see why its a possibility. I think one part that is missing is snow ball earth and how it made the Cambrian explosion seem to come from nowhere. When the earth was covered in ice, some species must have survived and adapted. When life suddenly became very easy, these hardened organisms exploded into the new world. This may take away from the DNA theory, which is awesome and thought-provoking btw.

  • this seems suspiciously like an advert for some kind of religious cult...

  • Chikiwiki64 comments blows my mind to bits...I think these religious people should first be extinct!!! Agree? Thumbs up please!!! :)

  • but at the end , what are we gonna do until the next cataclysmic event , gonna enjoy life like a motha fucker xD

  • and the ww2 has been over for 67 years and for me that feels like a life time , and then we get somethign that happened 200 million years ago ..

    and the big question now is what are we gonna evolve in now ?

    humans beings being able to manipulate time and bring back some dinosaurs from the past and make an actual jurassic park

    or are we just gonna evolve in some powehouse beings with super intellect

    or are they just gonna let insinct take over and become more animal like then human like ?

  • god 1 year lasts long but 200 million , cant even begin to inmagen how long that would take

    , but lets give it a try

    1 year has 365 days , so 200 million years thats 73.000.000.000 days

    no wondered they got extinct , everbody got bored to death

  • Amazing Video ! Just gives a sense that countless beginnings and ends are part of life which had cosmic beginning and will have an absolute end !

    I am just wondering if anyone can help in identifying the music composer (Tchaikovsky/Mozart/Beethoven) of the background piece from 1:55 to 2:58.

  • The graphics in this are amazing!

  • You know what I think? I think raptors grew intelligent so quick (like us) that they developed nuclear warfare and blew themselves up and that's why there's no more dinosaurs yup.

  • @l1nkie that isnt as crazy a theory as some would think, the raptors were probably the most intelligent of dinosaurs, so if we can evole from apes to us in 2 million years, why not raptors to highly intelligent lizards in the same period?

    ASs they grew smarter they gradually developed weapons to protect themselves, and eventually they eliminated or controlled all threats to themselves such as the bigger carnivores, until the evolved raptors blew themseves up in nuclear wars, as we are about too.

  • what are you morons talking about

  • pretty nice collection of vids. thumbs up!  Peace!

  • were your proof your god exist? were was he when his so called creatures got blown of the earth? where was he when thousands of animals became ex stint ? were was he when there was genocide ? were was he when the twin towers got blown up and over 3000 people died? were is your proof?? your god is dead.. and ok if he real he one hell of a dick standing round letting his favorite creations kill each other face it he dead or simply does not love you ..yet you pray and love him, ironic tbh

  • Come on!!! You guys believe this evolution stuff? I'll prove to you ANY way to show that Christianity and Creation by God are the REAL stuff. You just ask me ANY question about the cosmos, Earth, our sun, or anything in the Solar System, and I'll answer it. Praise the Lord!

  • @chikiwiki64 were your proof your god exist? were was he when his so called creatures got blown of the earth? where was he when thousands of animals became ex stint ? were was he when there was genocide ? were was he when the twin towers got blown up and over 3000 people died? were is your proof?? your god is dead.. and ok if he real he one hell of a dick standing round letting his favorite creations kill each other face it he dead or simply does not love you ..yet you pray and love him,ironic

  • @lmfaoatthat GOD LET EVERYONE KILL EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE ARE SINNERS! WE ARE EVIL! WE MUST DIE!!!! But Jesus paid the penalty for that..... So we don't have to die anymore.....God just punished us for the wicked (as in evil) things we have done one this earth. Like how the Flood was allowed because Adam and Eve sinned against God, the Twin Towers incident was allowed because of our beliefs of athiesm, humanism, and socialism during the years before!!! So....it was OUR fault God allowed that!!!!!

  • @chikiwiki64 noo if he created us yes? he created us to sin, he created our personalities apprently God is omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent so he knows everthing he knows how we will all die, but yet he SO CALLED created us his "most loved creation" but yet he allowed us to die, god created everthing yes? so he created murder he created rape he created genocide ! god if he lives in heaven is a shit dad to us all he like o sama binlarden and coronel gaddafie ! he watchest us all die

  • @lmfaoatthat God did not create murder and raping and all that stuff, Satan did! God allowed Satan to make those horrible things in order to test us of our faith in Him. Adam and Eve had a lot of faith, but it was not enough for Satan's trickeries. The Bible says something, I found quite hard to believe, but I believed it anyway, that Satan was the god of this world, appointed by the omnipotent Christian God, to teach us a lesson about disobedience. God also hates seeing his people punished!!!!!

  • @chikiwiki64 god CREATED EVERTHING ! even satan one of his four sons, god made satan rebellious GOD KNOWS EVERYONES MOVE even his rebellious son satan aka lucifer, mean lightbringer look it up satan did not creat rape and murder you daft shit, because satan is not god , he is the son of god 1 of the 4 archangles only god has the power to do that and if god hates seeing his people punished why he sitting back? lol obviously he dead or simply does not care

  • @lmfaoatthat What I mean by Satan creating those bad things is that HE INFLUENCED THEM!!!! And God is sitting back because of justification!!! If we don't get punished, we'll never learn!!! And HE IS NOT DEAD!!!!! HE IS "DOUBLE-ALIVE" because he died as Jesus on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins!!! Before Jesus, anyone, good or bad, would go to hell because of the original sin!!! So stop talking spit about my God, or don't come crying to me when you are sent to hell! Praise God!!!!!!!!!!

  • @chikiwiki64 you can put your god in your ass

  • @rovian9 ....... really? Wow, the person who made this video must've been really smart, this video really IS for neanderthals such as yourself. I take my leave by insulting you. INSULT: You ain't got no alibi, you ugly, you ugly, U, G, L, and Y and cow says moo! (This was written by Stewie Griffin)

    Bye. And don't spam to get back on me, you knew that insult was coming to you eventually. 7:<

  • @chikiwiki64 Even if God exists, I assure you he is nothing like what the Bible often describe ( a MAN in the sky ( man ? what the fuck ? only religious retards could believe that God would need to take human form, it's insulting). I think he/she/it is a much more complex form of existence than that. An alien race, a black hole, a stream of photon energy, anything that is powerful enough to create life from empty space can be branded as God, even human, if science can reach such point.

  • @aclock2 Part 2 of your comment, I don't agree with, but part 1 I do agree with. It's true God made us in his image, but who's to say we look PERFECTLY like him. Not the Bible, no way. They say only "in His image". Congratulations! You just helped me! Here's an internet cookie, and I would like to ask one question: "Let's put our differences and religions (in this case counts humanism and atheism as religions) beside, and let's be friends, what do you say? :D"

  • @chikiwiki64 Fair enough, still, why don't you tell me why you disagree with part 2 of my comment ? It doesn't matter whether you dislike science or not. Fact is science has discovered and created many things that could be consider miracle from religion's point of view yet religion tries its best to be stubborn and arrogance. Everything that religion once stand for are slowly breaking a part and prove either wrong or lacking. I hope the almighty God of yours won't suffer the same fate

  • @aclock2 I just don't agree because I don't think God would look like a black hole because the Bible depicts Him as a "being with surrounding lights as bright as the morning sun". I expect it to be very difficult to find out what God looks like before death. =P So.... are you going to accept my offer of being friends?

  • @chikiwiki64 So God looks like the sun then. Sun or black hole are no difference to me, like 2 sides of the coin. And the Bible, I don't know about the original but the current version is pure bullshit and mostly the work of man in order to serve the material benefit of the church by influencing idiots.

    Also, being friend is not an offer, it's when two people find mutual connection and respect with each other through some aspect. I normally don't find it in a random youtube user i never met.

  • @aclock2 MMMmmmmm...... okay this is uhhh... pretty much getting pointless coming here so.... I'l just leave.

  • @chikiwiki64 Farewell then. Btw forget worshiping and start researching and discovering.

  • @chikiwiki64

    "because the Bible"

    WOW trying to find the least credabile source?

  • @gorilla199uncensored Not another one...... look, I don't have time to deal with you, I gotta go. Good luck trolling someone else.

  • @chikiwiki64

    Good to see you dont even try and defend the bible.

    See even you know that when you lie (as you know you do) to try and pretend the bible is true, proves its not true even tho you wnat to pretend it is.

    Thats why every university in the world denys the bible, and teaches sciences that disprove it!

  • @gorilla199uncensored You....idiot.... I DID defend the Bible, didn't you see me do all that arguing to get here?!!! THINK!!! Don't reply to this either, or you'll be blocked + flagged + spammed!

  • @chikiwiki64

    " I DID defend the Bible"

    LOL no you did not just flasely claimign troll isnt defence.

    Theres a reason every reputable universoty in the world teaches sciences that disprove your bible.

  • @gorilla199uncensored Prepare to be spammed, jerk. oainpdisabfiusbfilbnfiubysdfil­bsndfisbnifbasibfasdbfiasbfasd­fjasbdkfhbfkiashbfjbf skadfhbskldfhbsadkfhasdfskfjbn­asbfasklikfybqiwle;fubhilsabhf­lasdfasidfuhasildfluhasdiflsuh­afiak.silfhnsldfulhasildfhuasi­ludhcilsdfushadfkasjbfhisldfhj­uasldfiuhasdfkluhsdilfuabshdif­hasldijfhausildfjnsaufilqwfhi;­stsldfusnaid;ofhuw;ouefhoewhfu­oa;wjofhausndilfhuasidfuhasilf­jhryeigsfohwoafhigywr;ilf;ygsa­idfkhusdohfoaw;hfeuwouef;dsjfh­suaoe;afjhsuoaefuekfjndsiju. Told ya.

  • @chikiwiki64 you can put your god in your ass IDIOT//// GODS DOES NOT EXIST/////

  • Sorcerers???

  • Global Warming will not end life on earth, idiots. The earth has been much warmer in the past and, strangely enough, life thrived even more than it does today.

  • thanks for leading me towards the light. The schools on earth just want to brainwash us but thanks to the internet we can seek information for ourselves

  • Fear-mongering at its finest

  • @MrAnalogCone I would love to see your proof. He is a PhD professor, not a 12 year old kid in his mom's basement

  • @AutomatedForexRobots Whether on the internet or in schools, all information is biased, and therefore cannot be the entire truth. It's up to you to process the information you receive and decide what is fact. Don't you agree that this PhD professor would have had to have gone through a school system to gather these credentials? My proof is in the video. Believe what you want, but want what you believe.

  • Turok killed all the dinosaurs.......lol

  • Wow 46 minutes. Someone's a bit negative.

  • There is a God, believe it or not.

    Why we don't see nowadays some monkeys being humans or at least having human body parts

    Why we don't see some of other species being transformed to something else

    One thing, If evolution was true nothing is gonna happen to me and same to you

    but if it was wrong ...you will loose

    be wise

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  • @GuillemotWatcher Hi i'm not a christian i believe in God the one who created the beginning the one who caused the big bang; the one who created the first 100000000000000000000000000000­000000 the power -10000000000000000000000000000­00000... cm^3 that exploded and gave the galaxies and stuff

    Nothing is like Him, i mean he is not a black hole, he is not a galaxy he's not an alien he's not a human

    No we just can't know Him for real But He's there

  • @forhumanityman Sorry, I removed my reply before you replied. I recognise the numbers you're quoting but few people really understand probabilities & those that you are quoting are from creationist sources.

    I've just given replies on my channel that better explains my understanding, I have no desire to convince you that I am correct, so perhaps we can agree to disagree, perhaps even be friends.

    Take Care.

  • @forhumanityman It seems I removed my comment, but why do you define your God as male?

    I do not wish to challenge your beliefs, but I would request that you accept my conscious rejection of the supernatural.

  • @forhumanityman Your understanding of evolution is truly amazing.

  • everyone is wrong

  • I hope I live long enough to see this occur!

  • If one day our planet rebels onto us..and destroy all living things on earth..I will blame you all..and me..

  • Cro magnon is a false term, they care called HOMOSAPIENS, and the neanderthals were found in Germany only so far, get informed please before you let these video's "inform" you

  • what's really funny to me, is that all these christians aren't looking into the fact that there has NEVER been any human remains with the dinosaurs..yet their bible tells them that man and all the animals were created together

  • "sign" that HE will come sooner~~~!!!!

  • There may be lots of species on earth we don't know about that were wiped out or had civilizations that maybe occured and all the evidence may of been destoryed in a natural disaster event. It's possible advanced technolgy may of existed long before ours but was destoryed in a natural disaster and planet earth was recycled and the creation of life began again. perhaps our earth has been recycled many times and what we think it the beggining may of been another civilizations end

  • you know an open mind is a smarter mind. even if whot your listening to could be wrong. you still gain knowledge on it being wrong

  • ok dude ive been watching your videos and its gettign to a point where your are repeating yourself alot so to me this is now all BS

  • at 35:24 is that a plane lol

  • If I'm not mistaken, it's "Ordovician," not "Ordovacian."

  • @terentii if you keep watching his videos his just BS he repeats himself alot

  • @lui3090 Yeah, I kinda gathered that....  ;-)

    BTW, the name of the constellation is pronounced "o-FY-yu-shus," not "o-fi-YU-shus."

  • @ohevi Is stupidity your calling,or your hobby?You are quite good at it.

  • what I can't believe is ppl see all the suffering around the world,and still are ignorant to believe GOD is here and this is his plan for his Creation!!! Only an Evil being would come up with such nonsense.beautiful children getting kidnapped out of their front yard,,and found a week later with their head cut off.

    PPL their is NO GOD!!!! What is wrong with the human brain??!! The fear/greed part stops us from moving forward!!!!!!!!! KILL GOD,AND ALL WILL BE BETTER!!!

  • @MrAmericanzombie Reacting to the foolishness that you speak is a waste of time.What is good about you is no matter what,in 100 years or less,you will be gone.

  • @ohevi All i pray for is the DEATH of all religions!! That includes you,and your stupid ass family tree!! You will go extinct,cause the internet is GENOCIDE to religious sheep,that follow instead of lead!! Basically you're Neanderthal,and Modern Human is killing you off!! Thank you Darwin for eradicating these bloodthirsty sheep!! We will have peace when you're GONE!!!  Now that your OWN religion has admitted Adam&Eve are probably not real,YOURE DOOMED!!!!!

  • So their is some hard evidence on Brain eating Neanderthals>?

    Maybe they were just discarding the brains...and making ash trays or something.

  • the pepo who make camicals cause this plase save our plnet

  • lol the music from Night of the living dead

  • Look here the bible is a really good guidline to what is wrong and what is right and what is good and bad. Its the message in the stories that counts, instead many question if the fucking thing is based on actual events. Its the message that counts. Im not really religious but if I had to imagine growing up being PC correct on the issue I know I would of turned out way different and that difference would be a negative one for sure

  • First destructive solar flare was recorded in 1859. Telegraph poles were on fire and telegraph network were down. After careful study, next event was already foreseen with 90% life wipe out but Scientists coded the actual date in Religious way to prevent people from panicking (late 19th century). Michael the Archangel was the key where he defeated Satan and save the Earth from burning in Hell. 2012 - 1859 = 153.

    Search 153 that relates "Michael the Archangel" in Google. You'll be surprised.

  • @pogpog28 if u cant relate an idear of the end of the world to the rest of the world then it cant b true for1 what are buddhist doing when amageddon happens the christian end of the world only acounts for a small amont of people thats not the world but if it relates there could b sum truth to it so maybe but i dont think an end well ever come

  • @kingpharaohtsar End (or DEATH) will always come my friend as no one is immortal not even the richest of men. Religion will not matter when Cataclysmic event comes. The question is when.

  • @pogpog28 when hmm dont know i like if an why as in if in are life time why i wonder how real all the movies will look then this world is 7 billion an growing i think if it could b due to over population save the staving people soon we are all srewed nature kills people off we keep stoping nature its not going end well but i guess it will b sumthing to do

  • @kingpharaohtsar You got a point there but i believe in Fate. No one can stop Nature but none ever said that no one will try. If 2012 is true about the destruction brings forth either Comet Elenin or X-Flares (coming from the Sun) then there's always a contingency plan. I know Government all over the world are preparing for the worst but not all can be save for they are still favoring depopulation. Very well planned events for the fortunate, bad ending for the unfortunate. That's the truth.

  • @pogpog28 its like waiting for the end of a movie i realy wona know what 2012 if any thingz gona bring coz if sumthing prophetic is to happen i guess around our time would b it should make life interesting my people celts in english were basicly born in the last ice age geneticly speeking i wona see how we may change

  • @kingpharaohtsar hehe, =) Life is unpredictable my friend, we may never know what lies beyond. Frankly speaking of course there will be changes if something happens around 2012. But sad to say, not quite interesting if you ask me. Our life here on Earth is already anticipated. There is limit to every thing, even to our Sun. And that limit comes a deadly price. That is what we called Cycle. Evolution will not be born if everything is perfect. That what makes life more interesting.

  • @pogpog28 i figer what will b will b to a degree anywayz i mean i think humans need to lurn what fights to have an witch 1s to let go fearing death is futile evein mankinds death so in analysis i find catastrophic thing interesting iv a morbid curiosity in all things the holocuast an 911 makes sum get emotional it makes me think wow how why who for 1 the end of the world may be just another start dont know but i wona

  • JESUS is LORD!

  • @jackransell TROLL is FAIL!

  • @ErikaCn100 nope

  • @jackransell Oh, so you really believe in that fairy tale of a book called the bible. Forget about science fact... everything in this two thousand year old book written by superstitious and paranoid people must be true!

    Sorry dude... its time to get out of the dark ages and face reality.

  • @ErikaCn100 man, if that's how you think. this surely is the dark ages.

  • @jackransell The Dark Ages was a time of strife, murder, witch Hunting and lack of progress... why?

    Because of religion.

    No need to reply... I should have learned my lesson by now, Religious people like you wont see fact if it hit them in the face. You only believe what the bible says... or whatever way you people like to twist to to fit you're needs.

  • Most people would think this is terrible, but for me things like this is just amazing how the chain of events lead us to take back what we put in... I love people I'm no goth or troll, but I think its time we get pay back.

  • well aren't YOU just a cesspool of negativity.

  • @Chronamut He's absolutely right though.

  • the sentances are TO BIG!

  • About the soft T-rex tissue : "There's nothing unique about the specimen other than the fact that it's the first that's been examined really well," Horner concluded. Other dinosaurs, in other words, are probably similarly preserved. 

  • was 5.32 really nessersary?

  • Evidence against RADIOMETRIC and CARBON-14 dating.

    When taking into account the different types of plants which discriminate against Carbon dioxide containing 14C (local vegetation carbon leaching into fossils/rocks etc). Also, the 14C/12C in the atmosphere has not been constant i.e. Volcanic, industrial age, atmospheric testing of atomic bombs, weakening of the Magnetic Field, Genesis Flood, Plant Decay and mineral absorption all of which would cancel out isotopes used for comparisons.

  • @Acecool444

    1

    Your creationist liar mentors conveniently "forgot" to mention to you that there are several independent ways how to determine the amount of 14C that was in atmosphere in the past. The whole 14C scale has been calibrated using independent sources and therefore the chaning amount of 14C is no problem because we KNOW how much 14C there was 5000, 10,000 or 50,000 years ago. And we have known this for more than 50 years. Funny how your cretinist mentors have never heard about this.

  • 2

    Genesis flood? Sorry to burst your bubble, but that silly flood never happened, as shows EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE from REAL WORLD. Not only is there total lack of any evidence of such flood, there is also enormous amount of evidence AGAINST that flood. That flood is a physical impossibility.

  • 3

    ONCE AGAIN: egvery single claim made by your cretinist RATE group has been thoroughly refuted by scientists and their factual errors, faulty methodology and other fallacies have been listed to them, without them paying any attention to that because they are RELIGIOUS PROPAGANDIST LIARS whose goal is not to do science but to deceive people into absorbing their religious fundamentalist propaganda.

  • 4

    So the fact is that YOUR "evidence" is faulty and wrong. But as I said, that doesn't bother you at all because people like you are not interesting in studying the reality but in forcing your religion down the throat of everyone.

    SCIENCE starts from making observations and then making conclusions based on that.

    Your RATE groups and other liars start from having predetermined conclusions and then they try to distort evidence to fit into their conclusions.

  • 5

    But let me give you a quick introduction into SCIENTIFIC METHOD: namely, when your "evidence" is wrong then you have NOTHING. Therefore you have NOTHING. Your RATE "evidence" has been refuted by scientists. Faulty and wrong evidence IS NOT even "a little bit evidence" but is NOTHING.

    But of course, you are not even interested in WHAT is wrong with your RATE "evidence". You just cling hysterically to it because it corresponds to what you WANT to hear.

  • 6

    Unfortunately the REALITY is not about what you WANT to hear. Reality does not care about what you want. So if you start studying the reality with some predetermined conclusions then you will get it wrong. Predetermined conclusions like a fixed idea that a Bronze Age Middle-East goatherder mythology must be literally true.

    I have the working science, tons of evidence that have survived most hardest criticism and peer review.

    You have nothing.

    Want to debate more?

  • @Hobu123 I Not here to get into scientific debate over and over. Regardless of how modern technology and mathematics can get give us exact details, or even remotely close dating periods, it would be impossible to know exactly how much carbon within the mass that formed earth to begin with, not unless you could prove and date the mineral/molecules as made up entirely 100% carbon. Your radiometric dating fails on that account alone!

  • @Acecool444

    You don't need to know "how much carbon wa within the mass that formed earth to begin with" for radiometric 14C dating. All you need to know is how much of 14C there was in atmosphere/cycle and we DO know that because there are several independent sources that SAVE that data which has allowed us to calibrate the whole 14C scale accordingly.

    You really don't have even the slightest idea what 14C dating is, do you?

  • @Hobu123 Allow me to apologize! In my haste, I will admit (thought about it afterwards but distracted from busy schedule), I meant to describe biological/atmospheric instead of mass. As I've already stated, I can not believe that some scientists could be so speculatively or mathematically accurate in their carbon in the atmosphere theories so long ago as they state, especially if minerals were formed from older star matter, which I do believe until proven otherwise.

  • @Acecool444

    Minerals forming from whatever star matter have no effect on 14C dates. Half-life of 14C is so short that within about 50,000 years practically all 14C has decayed which means that 14C can not be dated older things than about 50,000 years. 14C forms in atmosphere and after that decays. So we need to know how much 14C there was in atmosphere in any point of time in order to carbon date things accurately. And we know that because there exist several sources that "save" such data.

  • 2

    >>>>>>I can not believe that some scientists could be so speculatively or

    >>>>>>mathematically accurate

    Have more trust in scientists. Contrary to what creationists claim, scientists are NOT idiots and the DO KNOW what they are doing. Look around you. Practically everything that surrounds you is a fruit of science. The same science that creationists hate so much. Would all that exists if scientists were such idiots as creationists claim they are?

  • @Hobu123 "And we know that because there exist several sources that "save" such data."

    I must of missed it somewhere. Could you please share any information regarding what you just said? I'd sure appreciate it. And yes, I admit, I am no scientist, but should there be any real evidence proving Scientists do indeed have irrefutable proof of the amount of 14C in the atmosphere so long ago, I'd really love to know. Thank You ;)

  • @Acecool444

    Here are some examples:

    1

    Dendrochronology. We can date tree rings, knowing which year their formed (because we can count them back in time and using overlapping pieces of wood the tree ring pattern has been reconstructed back to over 10000 years). Then we can compare the measured dates with dates that would be the result of 14C amount did not change, and the difference between those allows us to calibrate the 14C method.

  • 2

    There are several other similar things that are used. Basically we need to use things which age is known from different sources (like structures formed in annual cycles, like treerings), and then date them and compare the results with predicted results in no-change scenario.

    Using tree rings the 14C dating has been calibrated back to about 11,000 years. U-Th dating of corals has been used to calibrate it back about 30,000 years; U-Th dating of glacial lake varve sediments back to 45,000 yrs

  • 3

    And back to 50,000 years using ocean cores from the Cariaco Basin, which have been calibrated to the annual layers of the Greenland Ice Sheet.

    References:

    Dickin, A. P. 1995. Radiogenic Isotope Geology, Cambridge University Press.

    Becker, B. and B. Kromer. 1993. The continental tree-ring record -- absolute chronology, 14C calibration and climate change at 11 ka. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology 103: 67-71.

  • 4

    Bard, E., B. Hamelin, R. G. Fairbanks and A. Zindler. 1990. Calibration of the 14C timescale over the past 30,000 years using mass spectrometric U-Th ages from Barbados corals. Nature 345:405-410.

    Kitagawa, H. and J. van der Plicht. 1998. Atmospheric radiocarbon calibration to 45,000 yr B.P.: Late glacial fluctuations and cosmogenic isotope production. Science 279:1187-1190.

    Hughen, K. et al. 2004. 14C activity and global carbon cycle changes over the past 50,000 years. Science 303:202-207.

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    Before scientists start to use anything as dating method, huge amount of research is being done and during the use of a method the research continues and possible error sources are eliminated. They do not just take something and "assume" something and then start to use it. Have more trust in scientists. They are NOT idiots.

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    Stories about how "unreliable" dating methods are you can read from blogs of creationist liars because dating methods are the worst enemy for anyone who has baseless and fixed idea that world must be young. However, those creationist stories are heavily distorted and consist mostly of nonsense and even in few cases when they do point to some errors, they leave many important things out from their stories.

  • @Hobu123 Well I must say, from your many comments, admit that so far I haven't read anything that would refute those statements.

    I don't think Scientists are idiots, but as with all people, and so much controversy, even in Govt, it's hard to pin point accuracy, integrity and truth.

    Thank You for your time and help in this matter, and promise to do more research and see if I can't see things more clearly.

    Poor family, no grants, no college education....C'est la vie

  • Don't forget that there are many millions of scientists in the world and the best way to make yourself respected among scientists is to find mistakes and errors from the work of other scientists. So scientists are constantly reviewing everything that they discover or do and therefore errors and mistakes get usually discovered quickly.

    If you find some creationist arguments and want to know how to refute those, you can start from talkorigins org, especially their indekx of creationist arguments

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    Also, contrary to creationist anti-intellectual propaganda, there is NO worldwide conspiracy of evil scientists. If some scientist ever discovers something that invalidates dating method, scientists would immediately stop using that dating method. And the corresponding data would be published in peer reviewed scientific journal, not in some creationist propaganda blog.

  • @Hobu123 There's no point arguing with creationists, it's like talking to a wall.

  • @a2ram Its more like talking to a show which has three episodes or so that are repeated over and over again...

  • @a2ram there's no reason evolution & creation have to be mutually exclusive. Even the Vatican has adopted evolution into their belief system.

    Evolution still requires a first cause: was this first cause conscious and deliberate, or non-conscious and random? Empirically no one can say for certain, so it's up to each individual's reason & inductive logic to find the answer.

    When it comes to consciousness in the universe, all any of us can truly be certain of is "I think, therefore I am"

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  • @a2ram hey come on. that's an awfully mean thing to say about a wall.

  • @a2ram God made retarded fishsquirrels have buttsex with a monkeyfishfrog and those evolved into humans when they crawled out of the water with their mutated legs. Its non arguable. Its watertight. Its creationism.

  • @a2ram WTF !! and all these time I though walls had ears =D

  • @Hobu123 I can certainly understand the reputation of scientists would be endangered should their theories be proven wrong. Still researching, and talkorigins was one of my sources as well. As with most things involving science or mathematics, this will take time for me, but am on a daily mission to educate myself further on this issue and as much as possible. Thank You once again.

  • @Acecool444

    In modern science there exist "their theories" only in very narrow and specific fields of science, about some specific problems. Such things as theory of evolution etc are not any more "someone's" theories, they are general knowledge.

    The one who overthrows modern theory of evolution would get Nobel prize and be forever as famous as Einstein or Darwin. Interesting, huh, how no creationist has ever wanted such fame :)

  • @Hobu123 Evolution is only 'general knowledge' dependant on where you are talking about and with whom you are talking about. Personally, I think it all nonsense and people need to respect other peoples beliefs. If you are a creationist, thats fine, believe whatever you want, but you do NOT force/push your beliefs onto others. You can share it with a willing listener, but thats it. Likewise, evolutionists, stop hating on creationists if you dont respect their choice why should they respect yours.

  • @xinecallaw

    When dealing with reality, all "choices" are not equal. Someone's opinions either correspond to reality or not. For example, Earth is round. The shape of Earth is not a matter of choice. If someone believes that Earth is flat, Earth will not be flat for him, Earth is still round. Opinion that Earth is flat is stupidity. The same thing applies to creationists. They live in reality denialism. Evolution happens whether they accept it or not.

  • @Hobu123 well said.

  • @Hobu123 What I'm having trouble with, is the assumption of the constant equilibrium of dating cosmic radiation process. How can scientists actually predict the amount of 14C and 12C in the atmosphere 30 to 80 thousand of years ago? As I've mentioned before, there is much evidence of the constant changes of carbon in our atmosphere over the years, thus leaving us with another assumption, That 14C thousands of yrs ago, has not been proven equal to present day atmospheric 14C conditions. Puzzled

  • chemicals in the oceans got that, but CO2 and glacier melting I think is natural, its just a little ahead of schedule.

    I say we need scientists that also oppose some of these ideas for the good of knowledge, enough putting down the man with a different view point

  • yes I know wat you'l saw go back to scool it just append that we ave the tec to fig wat we were wandering hahahahahahahahahok ok okwat make you think that we going to live the same thing egain in a expending univers and I sed ANDa planetary equaly expending and changing as the way we breathe live and eat

    the joke is that you all sems to forget that the air and water are realised by purfect combination of element factor and AND time wat's next on the periodic table ?

  • Where are the craters that meteors caused?

  • @TheTantanski A lot are on the ocean floor and you can't see them, while the majority of land crater remnants are hidden by vegetation, and some of them are still visible. The idea is that on our planet there are some forces that erase the craters slowly... like erosion, vegetation etc. You can't say the same thing about the Moon for example or Mercury...

  • @toni8675 ocean floor, vegetation and erosion? well i think we would be able to see the craters at the bottom of the ocean from space if they were there. also as they described in this video how many times the earth was bombarded by meteors and there are barely any craters visible on dry land, just not possible.

  • @TheTantanski You're wrong, it is very possible. There IS erosion going on all the time... That's why mountain ranges shrink, river valleys and canyons form, and craters are covered up and eroded. The fact is that it happends very fast only on Earth, because there are more contributors to erosion than on other planets. Erosion happends on ocean floors too, you know... And if there's a chance I'm mistaking, I would like to hear YOUR explanation about the missing craters on Earth...

  • @toni8675 My explanation of missing craters is simple, the earth wasn't bombarded as much as it is stated in the video.

  • @TheTantanski Or maybe it was almighty GOD that in his infinite love for humanity and all life somehow shielded us from all those meteors.... Come on, man! God does not exist!

  • @TheTantanski

    Ocean floor is constantly being destroyed and new ocean floor is forming due to plate tectonics, so the old craters in oceans do not exist any more.

    Others are buried under huge layers of sediments, eroded etc.