MacArthur(1977)&PATTON(1970) - Theme music March

[MsKeith1969]

my mother (who thinks that macarthur and cats are EVIL) may disagree but I FOR ONE THINK THAT MACARTHUR WAS RIGHT AND TRUMAN WAS WRONG!! THERE IS NO SUBSTITUE FOR VICTORY!!!!! IF ONLY PATTON COULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN A FREE HAND TO FIGHT THE EUROPEAN WAR THE WAY HE CHOSE TO, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO HAVE DEALT WITH THE COLD WAR FOR 45 YEARS!

[perhapsable]

Does anyone have the General Douglas MacArther March they, could put on youtube?

Our High School Band Director friend wrote the music to this march, and I played it many times. Later I became member of the !st Cavalry Division, MacArther's own.

[mgwilliams1000]

You have to add ADM William J. Halsey. Hit hard, Hit fast, Hit often. "There are no great men. Just great challanges that ordinary men by circumstance are forced to meet".

[CJLinton]

Patton has to be THE WORST war movie ever made.

[Jurassic0Al]

@CJLinton- Most folks don't see it that way. You know that, right?

[CJLinton]

@Jurassic0Al No, don't really care either... its a very bad representation of a very interesting person, the battle scenes are ridiculous and the acting has more ham than a pigs backside.

[Jurassic0Al]

@CJLinton- Well, thanks for that, Mr. Ebert. Next time you barge onto a video, I'll be sure to ask what you think of it.

[CJLinton]

@Jurassic0Al make sure you do. If "Most folks" think this movies good then it just goes to show how bad peoples knowledge of history truly is.

[Jurassic0Al]

@CJLinton- Ha! I'll surely do that. Sarcasm must not be very familiar to you. Regardless, while I don't much trust in what most people think either, I happen to have seen "Patton" and liked it a lot. I don't think it really does him any great disservice or anything like that.

[CJLinton]

@Jurassic0Al You've just made an arse out of yourself mate... Completely missing my own sarcastic response so you could attempt to get one in yourself... silly fanny... no wonder you think this film is good... you don't seem to get the point of anything do you.

[Jurassic0Al]

@CJLinton- Whatever you say. You and I both say we've been using sarcasm and the other hasn't noticed it, so meh. "Silly fanny"? And yes, I like both "Patton" and "MacArthur". They're excellent movies, that's why I like them. And more people, including professional film critics, agree with me than with you. I get to the point plenty. Whether you notice or give me credit for it is another thing. This exchange is over.

[CJLinton]

@Jurassic0Al Aye right mate, you keep telling yourself that. What the hell would a professional film critic know about history? About as much as you by the looks of things, this exchange was over a long time ago, its just you pissing in the wind as always.

[Jurassic0Al]

@CJLinton- You're goddamned right I'm pissing in the wind. And I'm happy to do it too. I don't know where they find guys like you, but I hope they leave you there in the future.

[Jurassic0Al]

@CJLinton- Dear God, you really did say "silly fanny"! They have a word for guys who talk like that at military school, and it isn't a word much used in the chapel. If you get me. And you talk to me like you're some kind of king, all high-handed and condescending. Weren't you from Las Vegas or something? Go f*ck yourself, Las Vegas.

[CJLinton]

@Jurassic0Al The word Fanny means something different in Britain dipshit.

Military School??? more like a flaming Catholic "suck the priests sack" school.

[Jurassic0Al]

@CJLinton- Maybe it does, Las Vegas, but it's not like Americans are going to see it that way.

And, uh, yeah. Military school. Considering few if any military schools in America- or anywhere else- are Catholic I have no idea what you were thinking when you wrote that.

I'm gonna go now, Las Vegas. But I *know* you will reply. And reply again, if I talk to you in the future. If only I could train other people to be so obedient...

Later, Las Vegas.

[CJLinton]

@Jurassic0Al Of course i'll reply... can't have people thinking you know what your talking about can we?

[Jurassic0Al]

@CJLinton- No, we could not. That would be tragic.

[valdezmiguel2]

@Jurassic0Al lol at you EXPOSING the things I say in the groups that I show on my page. note that I moved the groups from their default position below the comment box (where they are roughly hidden) to right below my video box. mazel tov, you found the not secret groups i'm in!

[Jurassic0Al]

@CJLinton- Just tell me, old buddy, old chum, because I'm curious- if you believe "Patton" to be a terrible war movie, what do you see as a good one? I mean, you made no comment on "MacArthur", which is present here also, for one thing.

[CJLinton]

@Jurassic0Al With regards Macarthur I cant comment on a film I have not (and have no wish to) see.

What I regard as a good war film are those that get everything right, Gods and Generals probably being the best one (even though the Antietam scenes were cut at the editing stage). If history is to be represented on screen (and a lot of money spent doing so) then it should be done right, otherwise its complete fiction and in my opinion is disrespectful to the people being portrayed in the film.

[Jurassic0Al]

@CJLinton- Well, flat-out refusing to see "MacArthur" makes little sense when you have such a strong opinion about "Patton". I don't expect you'd like it, though, since the two are somewhat similar.

See, I think I get what you're looking for in a war movie. Most people- including me- consider "Gods and Generals" to have been a crashing bore, too loaded down with every last detail to be very entertaining. Very few war movies are like that one.

[paratrooper629]

Imagine- Gen MacArthur as Supreme Commander in Europe and Gen Patton as his land forces Commander- I'd be the war in Europe would ended at least 6 months earlier with less casualities. Now- nothing against IKE- but how would he have fared in the PI in 1941 or running the Pacific theater???? Mac could have easily handled Patton and Monty and made the best possible use of their talents.

Mac for President in 1948! Such a great shame for the USA that it did not come to pass.

[Jurassic0Al]

@paratrooper629- I agree.

[DET832]

Capt America. Thanks !!! The people you mentioned are our greatest generation. I can't say enough about these young warriors today that are only bound by buearacratic BS !!!!!. God Bless.

[thxoneonethreeeight]

McArthur is one of my favorite movies, Patton too, but McArthur movie is really good cause i, stupidly thought he didnt fight good enough in the philippines, and was agrivated with him for losing it,,but, then i saw this movie and my feelings changed. Gregory Peck is really good as McArthur.

[neweast1]

MacArtur was right about so many things,he was malinged by a president but only on a clash of decision making.when truman got out of office you did see him or macathur running around the coutry giving speeches at 100k a pop and prostiting themsevles like the politican of today.macarther was a hero truman a president doing the best he could in difficult situation but boyh had duty, honor,country first.........................­........................

[Enforcer57]

Two flawed men but brilliant at the art of war, and both proved themselves in combat in WW1. Where do we find guys like this that are in the right place at the right time?

[luxxma1984]

You are surely right but even during WW2 Patton suffered from the "politically correct" establishment that considered Stalin a "good friend" of the western world

[Jurassic0Al]

@luxxma1984- Yes, true. It was politics of the time, but there should have been signs, and no doubt there were, that the Soviets weren't the good friends they were officially. I mean, did you ever hear of what they did when a B-29 landed in their territory? Locked up the crew and stole the plane. Copied it and said, "Great Soviet aircraft!" Yeah. They stole our f*ckin plane. Good friends indeed.

I like to think that Patton, in regards to the Soviets, was ahead of his time.

[zdenekklos]

junkie??

[coolmamac]

Both these men were disgusted with desk generals fighting the wars. Also with the fact that they were not allowed to win the w

[pullybrit]

In the firing of MacArthur, I side with Truman as his dismissmal was also sanctioned by Generals George Marshall and Omar Bradley. As brilliant as he was, Mac just let his own apparent infallibility go to his head while serving as proconsul in Tokyo. Patton, on the other hand, is w/whom I sympathize as Ike was 1 pessimistic of an Allied victory and 2 commanded as some UN coalition force type rather than an American commander when it was Patton's drive and initiative held the key to victory. JMO

[xxchinookxx]

If that stupid, goofy Harry Truman wouldn't of fired MacArthur, the U.S. would of skull fucked N.Korea back into China. But naw!...We have to always end up with stupid decisions by our presidents. Same thing with Vietnam, Lyndon B.Johnson screwed up that wet dream too.

[raymondleeleggs]

Agreed, hopefully obama will do something about north korea that frightens me,

[GekkoKamen]

@xxchinookxx  I don't know they red-flag so much your opinion. I think it's a valient one, and I agree with you.

[Jurassic0Al]

@xxchinookxx- Yeah... there is some truth, I think though, to the argument that MacArthur had overstepped his authority. Regardless of who the general is and who the president is, the rule has to be that the president makes the last call.

But still. I sure do wonder myself if North Korea would be around today, had MacArthur not been held back.

[ml1911]

Both Macarthur and Patton had some of the lowest casualty rates in their respective theaters. As has previously been said both were independant thinkers, too bad we don't have more like them today.

[coolmamac]

My friend, every independent thinker is weeded out. They want all yes men.

[RubberIceCream]

every derogatory remark below ... shut the fuck up

none of you old enough to change your own diaper, come to my site and screw with me. I'm waiting.

[NamVetBuck]

JoeMama...you assume that these individuals would not be tolerated in the military today. I disagree...brilliant tacticians always shine and are promoted. If thier egos cause problems, victories make up for a lot !

[JoeMomma2002]

They would not be tolerated, plain and simple.

You lack the foresight to see such things. You are blinded by hero worship. Men like these two were their own men. Meaning they cannot exist in an Army that prides itself on being many.

Patton and MAcArthur prided themselves on being... Themselves. It's why they disregarded orders, disregarded the lives of their soldiers for a victory, and believed in their individual abilites.

American officers no long adhere to that.

[Baseballa231]

Unfortunately...

[Stagolee22]

I'm no military man, but from a military family. I tend to agree with this statement, but it's the case for most Americans these days. Everyone's become like a drone. Where are the rugged individuals of yesteryear? Where are the bold men of America? They're an endangered species. We eat, think, and do what we're told without even a second thought. Maybe we'll recover, maybe not, hard to say.

[CaptainAmerica322]

I believe there are more than a few rugged, and bold men these days. Just look at the men of the 173rd in Korengal Valley. Or the Marines on the offensive in Helmand, or the Canadian combat troops in Kandahar. Look at the brave Marine and Army grunts who fougth in the battle of Fallujah, or the 3rd ID's bold Armored assault into the heart of Baghdad. The Brits holding out during the siege of Sangin. It's just modern society doesn't respect the warrior as much anymore, and you never hear about it

[Jurassic0Al]

@CaptainAmerica322- That's an outstanding assessment.

[MsKeith1969]

@CaptainAmerica322 hear! hear! (hoor! hoor! in afrikaans)

[NamVetBuck]

Excellent job on the video ! Music is fantastic as well. Spectator, you are incorrect...Patton would probably wind up Commandant of the Marine Corps. We would have loved to have him !

[JoeMomma2002]

I highly doubt that these egocentric and highly unempathetic men would make it in today's rigid Army.

Both of these men disregarded orders and built their careers on their own intitution.

Spectator is RIGHT ON THE MONEY! They could not exist in today's US army because the vast majority of officers are not individuals. THere is no more room for thinking and independent officers.

BEcause if there were, they wouldn't be stuck in Iraq like they are now.

[Jurassic0Al]

@NamVetBuck- I agree about the video. And Patton, as a Marine? Who knows... maybe he would've become Commandant of the Marine Corps.

[Spectator1959]

Nice video/music. I think the Patton theme wins for "awesomeness." What a pair of generals. Nobody like them would survive past 1st Lieutenant in today's military tho.

One minor nit to pick with the MacArthur movie tho -- one of the very short segments accompanying the Korean War period shows an McDonnell-Douglass F-4 Phantom II jet dropping bombs. The prototype of the F-4 didn't fly until five years after the Korea fighting ended.

[CHJ49]

You did a good job coordinating the music with the pictures. A great tribute to the Generals and to the movies thier lives were based on.

[Jurassic0Al]

@CHJ49- I agree, very true. This video is very well made.

[msgirl277]

Awesome sound quality. Thanks.

[tomcatlover]

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[nostromo38]

Excellent post. Thanks.

[Buckage]

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