These clients easy to deal with: just show them the door. But after 30 years in the industry I know that the days when designers enjoyed a modicum of respect are long gone. The PC has made everyone a designer; put the tools into the hands of the amateur, the talentless and the barely competent (often cheap hands in an over-supplied industry) and thus the perceived worth of the skilled designer has never been lower. As 'DIY' design programs become more common this situation will only get worse.
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Brilliant! I work in this industry and this is so true. Although, the amount of swearing in the responses from the designer spoils it a bit. Not against swearing at all, I just think it's pointless in this.
my dad is a graphic designer and he has all of these problems every day and im going to carry on the business when i am older so if you are thinking it will be a walk in the park its more like everest
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I was an ITV motion graphics designer for 30 years. And I can verify that all this is true! When computers came along, managers would peer over my shoulder and say, "There's nothing clever about design. My six-year-old could work that thing."
I LOVE IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is so true - and every client thinks our job is no big deal and almost 4 free....
Absolutely fabulous, but very painfully true I am afraid. This should be compulsory viewing for students while there is still time for them to go into another profession, like bank robbing.
The message is spot on. Your presentation (language) however, would be better served if you took it down a few notches. I see you have a lot of hits. Oh I get it. You're not really looking for business.
Welcome to my world! You ask for print ready artwork and what you get is a photocopy of a magazine article, a logo in MICROSOFT WORD and a non plussed look when you ask for hi-re jpgs! Oh, the joys of it all!
For 27 years I have endured customers with all those comments. £3.50----- hope that pays for a full hour, while I sit with you to design it.......... oh.... so its my fault you cant print it A3 CMYK full bleed--whatever that means..................it worked OK on my printer...........who took it upon themselves to change my artwork...............I thought you would correct everything..you are the experts---Yes I know I gave you that phone number, but the printing is no use with it wrong......
I got an associates degree in graphic design. Not only was the program shit, but there's no work out there. Apparently, I suck at graphic design do badly that companies didn't want to take me on as an intern.
Today. I work at a fucking supermarket. Man, my dad's right, I am stupid.
@Justinfh2point0 - It is a bad state of economy and mentality. I am a Architect and out of work. First - be thank full you have a job because some people don't. Second, keep in touch with people so that they know you. Third, keep practicing, designing , sketching , anything to keep your game up. If you truly love it then it will come your way. At the same time, learn another trade. YOU NEED A BACKUP. Sorry but it is true.
@Justinfh2point0 It took me two years to get my first design job out of university. Most graphic employers are looking for experience rather than qualifications which puts graduates into the Catch 22 situation of not being able to get that experience. Always work on your portfolio. Fill it with genuine looking (logos/websites etc don't have to be for real companies) work, and include a web link to your best samples when you apply for jobs. You'll eventually get there. Good luck!
LOL!!!! this cracked me up.. oh god ..seriously some people don't understand Graphic Designing work and think it is just a piece of cake ...I face similar people everyday at work =_="
"Clients cannot be educated. They need to be abused, drained and discarded. Clients only do this to us because we let them." Agreed. Some of this has to be self-inflicted. When asked to do work for n opay, tell them to pay you for doing no work; it's morally equivalent. And then punch them out.
Music software is the other one - push a button and you've got an instant dancefloor hit. That's why real bands playing real instruments are starting to make a comeback because people like me just can't take anymore of the same loops and beats rubbish we've been constantly hearing for the last 20 years
But we can try ( and I'm making a huge effort on this trying ) to see the bright side: The few people who know the importance of a professional designer might be looking forward on paying more to the real pros like us, since we are becoming a kind of "rare species" out there in the market. =-(
these are great just wish there wasn't as much foul language... don't get me wrong completely understand it, but it gets old after awhile well really from the getgo
LOL... "Oh then I want you to make 100 changes, 99 of them leading back to the original design you made with 1 little tweak done to it since i have no idea what i really want, but I can now tell people you helped bring MY art to life!"
If this happens to you a lot, raise prices 10x. When people pay premium, they are polite, smart and never waste your time. You will have 10x less work and same amount of cash.
Clients cannot be educated. They need to be abused, drained and discarded. Clients only do this to us because we let them. There is always a schmoe around the corner they can abuse... If design was 10x more expensive and beheading was a legal way of saying "i am not interested in your project", we'd have a paradise here.
This doesn't happen with just clients. How about the "Marketing Manager" who says, "I like the ideas, but can I see some more treatments?", without giving any clue as to what they liked or didn't like about the ideas. I've found from experience that this type of answer comes from someone that has no idea what they want & can not make a decision. Or they don't want the responsibility of making the decision so they pass the buck to you by saying, "I don't know, what do you think?"
Working for a web design company I can tell you that this is your typical client... Maybe we should make all clients watch this video before talking to us, that would free up 50% of our time for those clients paying 95% of our wages!!
It's BRILLIANT! I had clients yesterday who decided they wanted to take a complex project back and 'play with the pictures' themselves - could I convert into Publisher (NO!@!!!). If you want it for £3.50 do it yourself. If you want to do it yourself THEN DO IT YOURSELF. If you want my 20 years of experience and creativity, TRUST ME TO DO IT!
This actualy sounds like my boss. Cept I have a job that pays me $10 per hour and I basicly dont have a choice... He dosent Like anything except Microsoft word. Dispite the fact that he wants something that he can add in the middle and not change the whole layout, he wants word. No Floating Boxes, No Excell, No Tables, Just word. I want to stab him.
try to make one yourself: it should include the message you want to show, look good, yet be simple, so people don't encounter egyptian hyroglyphs. then you should consider the size, will it be big for a poster, or small for a web-icon. a complicated logo will look awfull if small.
this may take 5 minutes to come up, but designers also come up with dozen of other logo ideas and than pick the best one out
@mastergradeone IMHO, A well-designed logo is a reflection of a business. Nike swoosh symbolizes speed. Fed Ex 's arrow between the 'E' and 'x' symbolizes moving forward. The YouTube logo probably cost way more than hundreds. Remember, the final logo goes thru countless iterations (as in the funny video above.
A well-designed logo should look like it was effortless. And you should be able to "get it" as soon as you see it. A slapped together idea/logo looks like that. Slapped together and bland.
Not all logos cost more than $100. Those that do cost more have a sound reason for that. A designer as a rule comes up with tens of variants for the same logo. After the client has reviewed those variants he chooses one or two and the designer will continue to tweak or improve.
At last, the youtube logo is definitely not 5 minutes of work, even if you had to just recreate it from your memory, not to speak about the idea itself.
@mastergradeone The reason why good logos cost more than $100 is that they are difficult to do right. A reputable designer will ask the right questions and really get behind the values of the company he is designing the logo for. This research clearly takes time and nobody questions a lawyer or teacher or engineer when they charge for their time and expertise. i suggest you go through the process yourself before you go on about how simple it looks
I'd say hillarious if it wasn't so real:) But ladies and gentleman, often it's ourselves who spoil the market, client's and their perception of what it takes to design. We do it by accepting unrealistic deadlines, budgets and allowing endless revisions. I'd advise we always send terms and conditions - keep certain minimum time for initial drafts (48h or so), limit the number of revisions, work for fair rates or rather dump the job, etc.
@duzybialypies You're right about the revisions part. I'm gonna start charging for revisions because that's kind fo annoying when you finalize everything and then find out THE NEXT DAY AND THEN THE NEXT DAY that you have to add something else.
Are u serious, goodness I hope your joking otherwise you pretty much just watched this video and then responded in the same way this client did! Il assume your not a graphic designer and be nice. There's a lot more to being a graphic designer than you think, I've been studying for 6 years and nothing frustrates or offends me more than when a person assumes it's a shallow process. But maybe it's the state of today's world n all that jazz, maybe not
@vjrei agreed. Currently doing both for a college. Inherited a CMS that doesn't work, now they want a total makeover. My clients are all college staff they all want their own look and feel, can we have this drop down menu, can we have this banner on our section. The amount of times i felt like telling them to F**k off
@Jaya365 Do what I did, take a PROJECT MANAGEMENT course, is like 2 weeks long at the most. It will teach you how to manage a project of course and will cover all those situations. Project management was meant for engineering but it can be applied to EVERYTHING in life. That way you can put your clients in their place, otherwise it will be a waste of time for both sides.
@Jaya365 Actually, learn to use Microsoft Project, there are good tutorials online, they won't make sense at first but you will like it late on, then take the training and vuala! now you are a project manager and can charge $75K a year in no time.
Sad for the designers that they're out of jobs because of some computers... but that's how it goes. They try hard now to keep up the illusion that their job is important - still anyone can do it on a laptop nowadays.
@laurentius88 It seems that AI will eventually take over everything for us. Then maybe we'll live in one of Isaac Asimov's dilemmas. But, if we somehow retain control over the computers (by separating specific AI programs and not allowing complete communication/unauthorized) then maybe we can live in a world where we barely have to do anything accept hit some switches, go to the gym, eat, etc.
@laurentius88 Hahahaha! You think you are a designer because you have a computer? You think you are a filmmaker because you have a webcam? And a chef because you have an oven? An athlete because you have sneakers?
Computers & internet have only created more jobs for designers.
OMG so this is BS is universal?! I thought I was the only one who got clients like this. I once had a guy say to me, so your an artist huh? I'll pay you to paint my dining room! "A mural?" No, I just need the room painted.
I've been a graphic designer for 30 years, and this video nails it... except for our responses. We have to be diplomatic. We're thinking that stuff, but we don't say it... usually.
After losing an hour or so to consulting and trying to educate the client (who expects it for free), we are often apt to lose our temper, though. Then they call us prima donnas.
That was brilliant, the voices just added to the laughter value.
I've had clients like this in the past, and they decide to blame me for not doing anything right. If they were to have said so in the beginning... But now I get them to fill out a form before the work starts to get as much detail from them as I can, rather than quickfire emails or IM chat that really doesn't go into that much depth.
These clients easy to deal with: just show them the door. But after 30 years in the industry I know that the days when designers enjoyed a modicum of respect are long gone. The PC has made everyone a designer; put the tools into the hands of the amateur, the talentless and the barely competent (often cheap hands in an over-supplied industry) and thus the perceived worth of the skilled designer has never been lower. As 'DIY' design programs become more common this situation will only get worse.
AlessandroFilipepi 31 minutes ago
jesus bastard christ. the highlight of the video lol.
emerald951 4 days ago
Bang On....Well Done!
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David3330555 1 week ago
Brilliant! I work in this industry and this is so true. Although, the amount of swearing in the responses from the designer spoils it a bit. Not against swearing at all, I just think it's pointless in this.
chaucersmonkey1 3 weeks ago
spot on!!!
killabeeuk 3 weeks ago
Totally true!
SubliminalAttraction 1 month ago
"How diffficult could it be?" - the cry of the underdeveloped mind!
DC3Dreams 1 month ago
@DC3Dreams Right... clients think design should be cheap because 'the computer does all the work.. you just push a button' lol
ARTZY64 3 days ago
This is so true! I have experienced pretty much all of this in freelance jobs
uhhchloe 1 month ago
LMAO True..
Totaldream 2 months ago
JESUS BASTARD CHRIST
trustfire 2 months ago
BAhahaha. So true. Get frozen shoulder then take up Acupuncture - more rewarding and pays better. No, wait, it actually PAYS.
laZOETje 2 months ago
love it
08CJ11 2 months ago
Fucking spot on.
RollDeep06 2 months ago
LMFAO this is exactly how it is, glad its not just me then
smithpm81 3 months ago 3
Brilliant.
brunospaws 4 months ago
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TheSquishMovies 4 months ago
i assume you make this video using microsoft word too. Because my nephew say that microsoft word can make professional looking animations.
deadfudge 4 months ago 17
@deadfudge lmao
kat18f 3 months ago
LMAO
kat18f 3 months ago
@deadfudge Can't do this in MSWord
ARTZY64 3 days ago
I found this looking for a band called clients.... wow
TripodGRANNE 4 months ago 2
hilarious... nothing compared to what i have to go thru
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MrGraphicDesignPro 4 months ago
Google 'Clients From Hell'. More stuff exactly like this
sallynugget 4 months ago
This is why I quit being designer...
nurbsenvi 5 months ago
@nurbsenvi what did you do instead. i am planning to be a designer and i am getting a lot of negativeness out of graphic design articles.
Shemathon 4 months ago
Sounds like Microsoft Sam
iExD 5 months ago
my dad is a graphic designer and he has all of these problems every day and im going to carry on the business when i am older so if you are thinking it will be a walk in the park its more like everest
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zenowing 5 months ago
Lmfao this is spot on and I just started.
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iPadArts 5 months ago
wow, love this. i'm going to send this to some potential clients i could've had. foot in the door... lmao !
TheBeverlyKim 5 months ago
I was an ITV motion graphics designer for 30 years. And I can verify that all this is true! When computers came along, managers would peer over my shoulder and say, "There's nothing clever about design. My six-year-old could work that thing."
doubleOsable 6 months ago
I can t understand half of what theyre saying with the garbled language.
mcb325 6 months ago
so funny, so true!!
cindywieting1 6 months ago
That sucked
Clean0nion 6 months ago
Getty fuck. lol. I love that phrase.
Newfoundlanddesigns 6 months ago
AWESOME!!!! LOVE IT!!
ThisRightHere69 6 months ago
my nephew who is 8.5 designed it in microsoft word.... that is too fucking funny
spxrt 6 months ago
it's a constant war - this video is truth
thesupe87 7 months ago 2
OMG my life just flash before my eyes... 4:00am and I am working for a bastard just like that one I am going to sleep F him LOL...
eblgraphics 7 months ago
If you can get past the language these are great!
amymilliganphotos 7 months ago
hmmm...a bad rip off from the original "The A & R Guy".
iIIcommunication 7 months ago
Im just starting out and I already have experienced this shit . LMAO xD
wiiister 7 months ago
How about a real job?
thecrosby627 7 months ago
LMAO!
ArcaneWorkshop 7 months ago
Aha ha! Love it! It's so true. Glad I'm not the only one who suffers from clients such as this :D
roobyroo2004 7 months ago
absolutely superb. must have been based on where I work !
mallekram 7 months ago
I LOVE IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is so true - and every client thinks our job is no big deal and almost 4 free....
"Jesus Bastard Christ"!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOOOOOOOOOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gee2thadoublee 7 months ago
What is the best graphic design program for a beginner? I just bought a MacBook Pro and want to start learning how do to graphic designing.
bk11121988 7 months ago
hilarious!
designerversus 7 months ago
jesus bastard christ
s4pil4ut 7 months ago
Absolutely fabulous, but very painfully true I am afraid. This should be compulsory viewing for students while there is still time for them to go into another profession, like bank robbing.
TheRobbex 7 months ago
Um...do you guys have a hidden camera in my office that you based this on??!!
bevaneachy 7 months ago
amazing
joeyonono 7 months ago
Reminds me of my boss, no idea what goes into designing something. I hate waking up in the morning and putting up with his shit
DrMisanthrope 8 months ago
This is so funny.
eonDivision 8 months ago
quality... q:o)
cheechierocks 8 months ago
The message is spot on. Your presentation (language) however, would be better served if you took it down a few notches. I see you have a lot of hits. Oh I get it. You're not really looking for business.
rmarlowez 8 months ago
Splendid. The only minus is the word "Mac" in it.
admirs6 8 months ago 2
FUNNIEST EVER LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
REALHAMMER1 8 months ago
LMAO
xbxteen 8 months ago
ahahahah oh shit i know how this guy feels ahahah
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DragonTLC 8 months ago
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DragonTLC 8 months ago
HAHA! LOVE IT! the truth reigns!
DirtyD614 9 months ago
HA! Yes, Amen! ha
HOW ABOUT...
mysql> SELECT * FROM Clients WHERE 'clue' > 0;
mysql> Returned 0 results
thebandlounge 9 months ago
they need al help they can get ...fore money
wwwyoose 9 months ago
This is so true. Client's want everything yesterday, and the graphic designer is complaining about everything the client wants.
vectorsss 9 months ago
Haha! This is brilliant! A total gem!
Azuboi 9 months ago
Hahahaha! This wonderful MENTAL piece of work is just BRILLIANT!
So true it hurts! You inspired me long time ago to make a video about promoters vs vjs. Just wanna thank you for your work. Here is £3.50 :P
XanaHXX1 9 months ago
This is so true :-))
cscdigitalgraphics 9 months ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :D
matt2oooz 9 months ago
BLAHAHAHA
jnastyism 10 months ago
haha
willszz 10 months ago
lol
killha1988 10 months ago
Welcome to my world! You ask for print ready artwork and what you get is a photocopy of a magazine article, a logo in MICROSOFT WORD and a non plussed look when you ask for hi-re jpgs! Oh, the joys of it all!
e7B5Cd 10 months ago
For 27 years I have endured customers with all those comments. £3.50----- hope that pays for a full hour, while I sit with you to design it.......... oh.... so its my fault you cant print it A3 CMYK full bleed--whatever that means..................it worked OK on my printer...........who took it upon themselves to change my artwork...............I thought you would correct everything..you are the experts---Yes I know I gave you that phone number, but the printing is no use with it wrong......
ReallyHateBadVideos 10 months ago
O.M.G. this is fucking hilarious and oh so true finally a video thatcaptures assfucks in all there glory, keep them coming...
shadowfox8284 10 months ago
I actually cried.
ianpaulburton 10 months ago
This is awesome .... Were you in my office today?
pooley5029 10 months ago
All graphic designers know this pain, LOL!
mastodon77 10 months ago
i actually laughed my arse off
PeroXiiDeMedia 11 months ago
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SuperMigotka 11 months ago
lmao xD
itzyourcrayons 11 months ago
lmao when he said that bit about microsoft word I screamed ewe.
itzyourcrayons 11 months ago
Awesome!
blsway01 11 months ago
This is absolutely SPOT on! hahaha!
luserx 11 months ago
i love how absoloutly spot on this video is!
luserx 11 months ago
EPIC.
10.000.000 views ahead
YouJustGotPwn3d 11 months ago
84 fucking morons want to have their website designed for £3,50. Fuuuuuck offf eheheh
magicgreg84 11 months ago
ohhh god that is soooo true.
magicgreg84 11 months ago
I got an associates degree in graphic design. Not only was the program shit, but there's no work out there. Apparently, I suck at graphic design do badly that companies didn't want to take me on as an intern.
Today. I work at a fucking supermarket. Man, my dad's right, I am stupid.
Justinfh2point0 11 months ago
@Justinfh2point0 - It is a bad state of economy and mentality. I am a Architect and out of work. First - be thank full you have a job because some people don't. Second, keep in touch with people so that they know you. Third, keep practicing, designing , sketching , anything to keep your game up. If you truly love it then it will come your way. At the same time, learn another trade. YOU NEED A BACKUP. Sorry but it is true.
ratface4az 11 months ago
@Justinfh2point0 It took me two years to get my first design job out of university. Most graphic employers are looking for experience rather than qualifications which puts graduates into the Catch 22 situation of not being able to get that experience. Always work on your portfolio. Fill it with genuine looking (logos/websites etc don't have to be for real companies) work, and include a web link to your best samples when you apply for jobs. You'll eventually get there. Good luck!
beckett959 11 months ago
LOL!!!! this cracked me up.. oh god ..seriously some people don't understand Graphic Designing work and think it is just a piece of cake ...I face similar people everyday at work =_="
uaeheroine 11 months ago
"Clients cannot be educated. They need to be abused, drained and discarded. Clients only do this to us because we let them." Agreed. Some of this has to be self-inflicted. When asked to do work for n opay, tell them to pay you for doing no work; it's morally equivalent. And then punch them out.
thepublandlord1 11 months ago
It's like someone put up a sign saying "undervalued graphic designers form an orderly queue to whine here"
alihart 11 months ago 2
Music software is the other one - push a button and you've got an instant dancefloor hit. That's why real bands playing real instruments are starting to make a comeback because people like me just can't take anymore of the same loops and beats rubbish we've been constantly hearing for the last 20 years
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i use clientcloseup. its a website and i dont have to deal with this CRAP!!!!!
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123businessfirst 1 year ago
are you going to do that in microsoft word
iriswasapupil 1 year ago 11
Blasphemy in the video
JREAMdesign 1 year ago
Sad but true. =-(
But we can try ( and I'm making a huge effort on this trying ) to see the bright side: The few people who know the importance of a professional designer might be looking forward on paying more to the real pros like us, since we are becoming a kind of "rare species" out there in the market. =-(
cddagr 1 year ago
ahaha I was nearly in tears of laughted, Im studying Graphics dersign at uni in 2011 |:
TheQualityShow 1 year ago
haha brilliant!
kiromanndesignstudio 1 year ago
these are great just wish there wasn't as much foul language... don't get me wrong completely understand it, but it gets old after awhile well really from the getgo
hailiemaismama 1 year ago 7
@hailiemaismama It ruins the video
JREAMdesign 1 year ago
@hailiemaismama
Oh I don't know, I thought it was quite restrained myself.
artstuX 9 months ago
@hailiemaismama The swearing just makes it funnier
Strong1rdJosh 6 months ago 9
@Strong1rdJosh We should all swear at clients; they deserve it haha
ARTZY64 3 days ago
This is the best I’ve seen on GD ever. Keep them coming.
Jormabailey32 1 year ago
This is so fucking true
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Now Quark 8.5 can now export to Word .docx for clients such as this that have no idea about PDF ---- arghhhhhhhh
markjcairns 1 year ago
loved it!!! Keep up the vids :)
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sadjbeat 1 year ago
just out of morbid curiosity LOL!!!
monkeylennon 1 year ago
LOL... "Oh then I want you to make 100 changes, 99 of them leading back to the original design you made with 1 little tweak done to it since i have no idea what i really want, but I can now tell people you helped bring MY art to life!"
DaNoblest 1 year ago
If this happens to you a lot, raise prices 10x. When people pay premium, they are polite, smart and never waste your time. You will have 10x less work and same amount of cash.
Clients cannot be educated. They need to be abused, drained and discarded. Clients only do this to us because we let them. There is always a schmoe around the corner they can abuse... If design was 10x more expensive and beheading was a legal way of saying "i am not interested in your project", we'd have a paradise here.
tanzlovar 1 year ago 4
Well, to all designers complaining that this is reality:
I am a designer and it's not my reality. When a client shows these tendencies tell I give them 3 options:
1. Act like an moron some more and pay for it with real money upfront.
2. Stop acting like an idiot trust me.
3. Find an other designer and pay me for my work.
In 90% cases they get serious and stop screwing you up unless they are complete kretens. In that case, you don't want to do buiness with them anyway.
tanzlovar 1 year ago
This doesn't happen with just clients. How about the "Marketing Manager" who says, "I like the ideas, but can I see some more treatments?", without giving any clue as to what they liked or didn't like about the ideas. I've found from experience that this type of answer comes from someone that has no idea what they want & can not make a decision. Or they don't want the responsibility of making the decision so they pass the buck to you by saying, "I don't know, what do you think?"
designoblique 1 year ago
Brilliant!!!
SvelteSoubrette 1 year ago
Bang on right!!
Working for a web design company I can tell you that this is your typical client... Maybe we should make all clients watch this video before talking to us, that would free up 50% of our time for those clients paying 95% of our wages!!
pacomacman 1 year ago
clients from hellllll
mish85nl 1 year ago
Oh man!! OUCH!
DrLightyearsWoes 1 year ago
90% of craigslist in audio form. Fucking cheap slavers.
Kailys3 1 year ago
Thank you this is the only thing that stopped me from loosing it the other night.
blackLiquidTokyoska 1 year ago
"Are you going to do it in Microsoft Word?"
edmedmoped 1 year ago
Sadly this sounds like the soundtrack from my graphic design career.
UMunkeh2 1 year ago
Spot on, Love it!!
3ddade 1 year ago 3
It's BRILLIANT! I had clients yesterday who decided they wanted to take a complex project back and 'play with the pictures' themselves - could I convert into Publisher (NO!@!!!). If you want it for £3.50 do it yourself. If you want to do it yourself THEN DO IT YOURSELF. If you want my 20 years of experience and creativity, TRUST ME TO DO IT!
OysterfanBlondie 1 year ago
HOW DID YOU MAKE THIS?????????
CWDGAK 1 year ago
@CWDGAK did you watch the clip all the way to the end? u'll have the answer to your question there.
agpyo06 1 year ago
THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME!
Brotramel 1 year ago 4
THIS IS SO RIGHT!
I HATE those kind of costumers!
GlobalHouseMafia 1 year ago 40
@GlobalHouseMafia would that be people who make costumes?! :-)
ianinoz69 1 year ago
@GlobalHouseMafia - I hate costumers too - especially at halloween.
djbilly72 1 year ago
@GlobalHouseMafia Yh, I hate when robots try and get get cheap work from me. :P
ArchitekOGP 1 year ago
@GlobalHouseMafia Every customer basically fucking arseholes does my box in!!!!
neilss1 10 months ago
This actualy sounds like my boss. Cept I have a job that pays me $10 per hour and I basicly dont have a choice... He dosent Like anything except Microsoft word. Dispite the fact that he wants something that he can add in the middle and not change the whole layout, he wants word. No Floating Boxes, No Excell, No Tables, Just word. I want to stab him.
Dzilx 1 year ago 2
>mac
I lol'd
moomeraver 1 year ago
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To Graphic Designers:
may i ask why a logo cost more than $100?
it so simple and a bit over paid imo.
Look at the YouTube logo...i bet that cost hundreds of dollars to make and probably done in 5 minutes.
mastergradeone 1 year ago
@mastergradeone
p.1:
try to make one yourself: it should include the message you want to show, look good, yet be simple, so people don't encounter egyptian hyroglyphs. then you should consider the size, will it be big for a poster, or small for a web-icon. a complicated logo will look awfull if small.
this may take 5 minutes to come up, but designers also come up with dozen of other logo ideas and than pick the best one out
msbrainz 1 year ago 2
@mastergradeone
p.2:
i am not a professional designer, but i did a few jobs, and i can tell you, a logo can take up a few hours or even whole days
msbrainz 1 year ago 3
@mastergradeone IMHO, A well-designed logo is a reflection of a business. Nike swoosh symbolizes speed. Fed Ex 's arrow between the 'E' and 'x' symbolizes moving forward. The YouTube logo probably cost way more than hundreds. Remember, the final logo goes thru countless iterations (as in the funny video above.
A well-designed logo should look like it was effortless. And you should be able to "get it" as soon as you see it. A slapped together idea/logo looks like that. Slapped together and bland.
mrjoer 1 year ago 3
@mastergradeone
Not all logos cost more than $100. Those that do cost more have a sound reason for that. A designer as a rule comes up with tens of variants for the same logo. After the client has reviewed those variants he chooses one or two and the designer will continue to tweak or improve.
At last, the youtube logo is definitely not 5 minutes of work, even if you had to just recreate it from your memory, not to speak about the idea itself.
Plus, there are logos much better out there.
slavicdragovtev 1 year ago
@mastergradeone
Tool!
neilwestley 1 year ago
@mastergradeone The reason why good logos cost more than $100 is that they are difficult to do right. A reputable designer will ask the right questions and really get behind the values of the company he is designing the logo for. This research clearly takes time and nobody questions a lawyer or teacher or engineer when they charge for their time and expertise. i suggest you go through the process yourself before you go on about how simple it looks
JonBeech 7 months ago 3
too much swearing ..... fail coz swearing makes you hard -.-
RaedonPoV 1 year ago
I'd say hillarious if it wasn't so real:) But ladies and gentleman, often it's ourselves who spoil the market, client's and their perception of what it takes to design. We do it by accepting unrealistic deadlines, budgets and allowing endless revisions. I'd advise we always send terms and conditions - keep certain minimum time for initial drafts (48h or so), limit the number of revisions, work for fair rates or rather dump the job, etc.
duzybialypies 1 year ago
@duzybialypies You're right about the revisions part. I'm gonna start charging for revisions because that's kind fo annoying when you finalize everything and then find out THE NEXT DAY AND THEN THE NEXT DAY that you have to add something else.
DJAshBoogs 1 year ago
@archierowland
Nailed it on the freaking head
JusDevon 1 year ago
@laurentius88
Are u serious, goodness I hope your joking otherwise you pretty much just watched this video and then responded in the same way this client did! Il assume your not a graphic designer and be nice. There's a lot more to being a graphic designer than you think, I've been studying for 6 years and nothing frustrates or offends me more than when a person assumes it's a shallow process. But maybe it's the state of today's world n all that jazz, maybe not
JusDevon 1 year ago
The only thing worst than graphic design is web design.
vjrei 1 year ago
@vjrei agreed. Currently doing both for a college. Inherited a CMS that doesn't work, now they want a total makeover. My clients are all college staff they all want their own look and feel, can we have this drop down menu, can we have this banner on our section. The amount of times i felt like telling them to F**k off
Jaya365 1 year ago
@Jaya365 Do what I did, take a PROJECT MANAGEMENT course, is like 2 weeks long at the most. It will teach you how to manage a project of course and will cover all those situations. Project management was meant for engineering but it can be applied to EVERYTHING in life. That way you can put your clients in their place, otherwise it will be a waste of time for both sides.
vjrei 1 year ago
@Jaya365 Actually, learn to use Microsoft Project, there are good tutorials online, they won't make sense at first but you will like it late on, then take the training and vuala! now you are a project manager and can charge $75K a year in no time.
vjrei 1 year ago
Spot on!
fearnleynick 1 year ago
Sad for the designers that they're out of jobs because of some computers... but that's how it goes. They try hard now to keep up the illusion that their job is important - still anyone can do it on a laptop nowadays.
Good luck in your new careers, designer folks!
laurentius88 1 year ago
@laurentius88 now that really encourages me, thanks alot
iXzerty 1 year ago
@laurentius88 It seems that AI will eventually take over everything for us. Then maybe we'll live in one of Isaac Asimov's dilemmas. But, if we somehow retain control over the computers (by separating specific AI programs and not allowing complete communication/unauthorized) then maybe we can live in a world where we barely have to do anything accept hit some switches, go to the gym, eat, etc.
guitarobsessed85 1 year ago
@laurentius88 Hahahaha! You think you are a designer because you have a computer? You think you are a filmmaker because you have a webcam? And a chef because you have an oven? An athlete because you have sneakers?
Computers & internet have only created more jobs for designers.
KikikiHello 1 year ago
@laurentius88
Whatever YOUR proffession is... dear laurentius88...
You can be replaced with a perl one liner.
tanzlovar 1 year ago
OMG so this is BS is universal?! I thought I was the only one who got clients like this. I once had a guy say to me, so your an artist huh? I'll pay you to paint my dining room! "A mural?" No, I just need the room painted.
thornboy 1 year ago
@thornboy Well people can be quite dumb :)
guitarobsessed85 1 year ago
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
SuperPSTutorials 1 year ago
I've been a graphic designer for 30 years, and this video nails it... except for our responses. We have to be diplomatic. We're thinking that stuff, but we don't say it... usually.
After losing an hour or so to consulting and trying to educate the client (who expects it for free), we are often apt to lose our temper, though. Then they call us prima donnas.
:P
racookster 1 year ago 2
That was brilliant, the voices just added to the laughter value.
I've had clients like this in the past, and they decide to blame me for not doing anything right. If they were to have said so in the beginning... But now I get them to fill out a form before the work starts to get as much detail from them as I can, rather than quickfire emails or IM chat that really doesn't go into that much depth.
unknowndeamon 1 year ago
wow, and i thought i was the only one, lol
chartresgreenman 1 year ago