Republicans delay health care reform ? Well, there's a surprise .I mean considering they've done so for the past 8 years as 45,000 people die a year .
I am a proponent of healthcare reform. But I don't see the logic in saying that we are going to fix our current system of entitlements (Medicare and Medicaid) by establishing the biggest entitlement program in American history.
The problem with a single payer healthcare system is the cost. We already had a public debt of $11.4 trillion, and if Obama gets his way the debt will grow to over $23 trillion over the next ten years, which will have drastic economic consequences and possibly lead to the collapse of US currency. No government entitelement program is worth the bankrupting of our country!
The current bill has nothing to do with single payer health care. It's contains a weak public option where the government has to negotiate with providers. The cost is $900 billion (equal to the current cost of the war in Iraq) over ten years and will cover 36 million uninsured Americans.
Actually, the cost of the bill would be about $1.5 trillion over the next ten years according to the CBO. The public option is anything but weak, it would not operate like Medicare. It is actually a stand alone government-run insurance agency. The notion that a government-run insurance company will be able to compete fairly with the private sector is extremely nieve.
Enacting H.R. 3962 would result in a net reduction in federal budget deficits of $109 billion over the 2010-2019 period. ... The estimate includes a projected net cost of $891 billion over 10 years for the proposed expansions in insurance coverage.
The public option currently proposed is weak. It forces the government to negotiate prices with providers. This was pushed by conservative and blue dog democrats.
If liberal democrats had their way the public option would operate like Medicare, with the same rates, and would save taxpayers another $85 billion.
However, some reps in congress and folks like you, want to protect the profits of private health care companies. And that's why it was watered down.
The major problem with our current healthcare system is the per capita costs of healthcare benefits, which are by far the highest in the world. But by the government's own admission, the Affordable Healthcare for America Act would actually drive per capita healthcare costs up. They should atleast have the courtesy to change the title of the bill.
Same thing they said durning the Medicare debate. Granted taxes need to be raised to pay for it we all know that. Its not the 80's where we just lower taxes and spend like crazy.A VAT tax or an import tax should do the trick.Get ride of the Bush tax cuts and off shore tax havens Then there is the No limit on funding on the war on terror because as Bush said we can not put a price on freedom and our security.
To give every one FREE health care and to add it the the national debt is just crazy.
The American people overwhelmingly want this bill. The Republicans are obstructionist. They had 10 years of control and health costs doubled. The Democrats need to pass this bill and run right over these obstructionists.
Washington Post, CBS, CNN, NBC, EBRI, New York Times, ABC, etc, etc, etc.
The only one that came up south - Rasmussen (of the FOX News Rasmussens) - attributed their finding of a lack of support due to a weak or absent public option.
Republitards exist solely on ideology, ignoring inconvenient facts that get in the way.
If a Republican pushed an old lady into traffic, and a Democrat helped an old lady cross the street, they'd find a way to demonize the Democrat and make the Republican a hero.
Polarization of everything exists on both sides, and always masked in a holier-than -though attitude.
You might reconsider how objective your comment actually is vs how polarized it is.
Both sides need a lot of growing up. Both sides contribute to animosity, vitriol, and a separation of the citizenry on subjects that, ironically, the people don't really care about.
We are a nation, we need more people that can work together.
Mexico should build huge hospitals all along the border and advertise that they'll do any procedure for one tenth the price. It would provide jobs for Mexican nationals, provide competition the Americans need and improve relations. Win-Win.
You're wrong. It's not the party of no. It's the country of NO. No Bullshit. Obamacare is a BULLSHIT plan. Only a fucking idiot thinks social healthcare is the way to go. You're just a fucking TOOL that would favor ANYTHING that Obongo wants to pass in a bill. Well, FUCK THAT.
Hey all you liberals out there, try answering this question: Why would a government buried under an $11.4 trillion mountain of debt and massive entitlement programs want to establish the biggest entitlement program in American history?
We will answer the question after you "conservatives" get done explaining why you buried the country in $10.7 trillion of debt.
The debt was quadrupled under Reagan and Bush Sr. and doubled again under G.W. Bush-- all supposedly convervative republicans. The debt did not increase under Clinton.
Are you implying that Bush was a Conservative? President Bush didn't veto a single spending bill in his eight years in office. He can claim to be a conservative all he wants, but the reality is that he was the most fiscally liberal president in American history. Also, I'm surprised that your not giving any of the Republicans who served in Congress in the 1990's the same credit you gave Bill Clinton. Republicans gained a dominant majority in Congress in 1994, very early in Bill Clinton's term.
I want to see lower taxes, and a smaller more efficient government. This country is built on self reliance, and the government seems to want to destroy that. If you agree with me, than you are also a conservative.
Yeah Larry, remember you are bashing THE MINORITY PARTY NOW. They have got to start feeling the pressure to get something right for a change. Maybe they won't but don't worry about that too much because in that case, they'll just continue to lose. This is bad legislation as it stands and it NEEDS REFORM. Thanks Larry!
This lying prick sold his shriveled little soul years ago.
His top three industry contributors?
Lawyers/Law Firms$1,535,398
Securities & Investment$1,512,462
Health Professionals$1,442,991
Sorry Kentucky - did you think you elected him to represent you? Hahahahah - he's representing the corporate interests on your dime and laughing at his electorate all the way to the bank.
Is anyone seriously surprised at McConnell's revalation as that's what the GOP's plan has been from the start. what you don't hear are any productive proposals that address any shortcomings in the plan using the principles and values that they are so quick to promote. The GOP claims to represent the people but I can't tell as they consistantly represent the interests of those who are upper-class or corporations and share little commonality with the majority of Americans.
While I note the obvious critical statements, I also still feel this is A GOOD THING THE GOP WILL SLOW THIS DOWN. Did any of you guys see how Kucinich voted? He voted "No" and for damn good reasons. If the GOP sees Health Care as an opportunity for something more than Bipartisan Defeatism they could be a positive force in this. They must certainly improve on their ideas for amendments. THE MOVEMENT is bipartisan, will continue to throw ideas at them and HOPE with a strong martini! Stay positive!
Kucinich voted no because he thinks it's weak and the including public option isn't strong enough.
Notwithstanding the fate of H.R. 3962, America will someday come to recognize the broad social and economic benefits of a not-for-profit, single-payer health care system, which is good for the American people and good for Americas businesses, with of course the notable exceptions being insurance and pharmaceuticals."
Yes, as I understand it, the "public option" isn't really open to "the general public" either which makes it VERY misleading! Our corrupt media has not fairly covered Health Care but instead runs advertIsements for the FOR PROFITs. I think the Kucinich response on Democracy Now which you can view right here on You Tube or in my favorites or those on DemocracyCorner should be required viewing especially for the Senate. P.S. WE HAVE A PRIVATE CORPORATION CENSORING OUR DEBATES FOR PUBLIC OFFICE!
Don't worry Larry, I'm sure Oprah and or Anderson Cooper will soon have a hard hitting report on the problem. OK, I'm kidding but it kind of makes you think... I haven't ever seen Kucinich on Oprah either.
But the problem I have is that there haven't been any inclination or indication that the GOP's agenda is anything other than 'bipartisan defeatism'. Kucinich's vote was due to there not being single-payer option as he's a strong supporter of it. Although I always hold out hope and would really love to see true bipartisanship from the GOP, from recent and past history, I doubt it. You'd better make that martini a double with a Heineken back. Better yet, make that a pitcher...
OMG! I think I just fell in love again! Isn't it the GOP that's always talking about State's rights and WHY IS IT THAT THEY NEVER LIVE UP TO THAT? WE'RE WISE TO THE LIES! They only seem concerned about CORPORATE RIGHTS but neither side of the aisle is being honest anymore. Did I mention I make a great smoked turkey? Sorry Al Gore but I'm courting!
The GOP has already "delayed the process". For decades. They have sat, idle and uncaring while a dysfunctional health care model kills more Americans than any terrorist ever dreamed of.
THIS IS GOOD! Amazing to hear good news on FOX. This bill needs serious debate and consideration. I still want someone to explain HOW CAN WE MANDATE FOR PROFIT HEALTH CARE INSURANCE WHILE PROTECTING THE DRUG LOBBY FROM FAIR MARKET COMPETITION?
@Richardgwn "how can the republicans be so completely out of touch with the American people?"
I think it's because "the people" no longer exist in their thinking. they only care about "the base", and the rest of America are "the sheeple" or have been declared enemies and terrorists for daring to disagree.
This dumbass thinks he speaks for the American people? Maybe someone needs to remind him that we had this little thing called an election last year, and his party of teabaggers got their asses handed to them.
the republicans have no interest in governing. they pretend corporations and the free market will solve all problems. even though the free-for-all market and corporations are causing all of our problems. and remember when bush and brownie decided that fema wouldn't help new orleans..? remember how corporations came riding in to the rescue? yeah, I don't either. because it didn't happen.
the dems are too wussy right now, except for grayson and weiner and a handful of others.
Ignore the opinion of the population? How the hell do assholes like this get away with lies like that on tv? Should a real journalist stop them after a comment like that? Reference the countless polls that show how in support of health reform and the public option this country is? ARRRRRG, stuff like this makes me very angry...
The American people want health care reform. Did they want to continue war? No. Did they want warrantless wiretaps? No. Did they want the government to engage in useless spending? No. Did they want to cut our rights with the patriot act? no. I could go on and on. This assholes party fucked us over for a long time and now they act like the Democrats are the guilty ones - they want to forget about the 8 years under Bush. The Democrats have their problems. but the GOP? come on. 20x worse
Republicans controlled Congress from 1994 through 2006. The fact that they did nothing to reform the health care insurance industry only proves that they were taking their time, and making sure they got everything right.
Ironically, Mitch, like every federal employee, gets his healthcare through a national healthcare exchange that's exactly like the one he's fighting against. It's amazing. It must be some kind of historical world record for hypocrisy.
I have an idea to make healthcare better. Anyone who voted for the congresspeople who votes against it are excluded from access to all provisions in the bill. That way the people who want it can get it and the people who don't, can't even when they need it. Then we can say "Toldya so" as the GOPindenberg falls from the sky.
10/2009 abc news wash post poll "57% of Americans support the public option. That number climbs to 76% if the public plan is limited to those who can't afford private insurance on their own. "
10/2009 cbs news poll "The much-debated "public option" -- a government-run insurance plan -- still has the support of 62 percent of the public. "
America WANTS the public option. capitalism DESERVES competition, not corporate monopoly.
You could also mention the New England Journal of Medicine poll that showed 70% of physicians were in favor of either the public option or single payer.
I could mention the new england journal of medicine article that shows 70% of docs were for either the public option or single payer, but you just did mention that new england article that shows that 70% of physicians are for either the public option or single payer.
that's an idiotic blanket statement you cannot possibly back-up. hayek is a jackass freemarketeer.
you claim doctors shouldn't be taken seriously in healthcare reform because you don't like their investments?
it's about 44,000 AMERICANS dying every year because of lack of access to healthcare. it's about 2,266 U.S. military veterans dying last year because they lacked health insurance and their VA bennies didn't suffice.
I couldn't give a fuck about investments & the free market.
Calling Hayek a jackass does not argue against his ideas.
Claiming that doctors know anything about running insurance companies is pretty suspect. They are trained in how to treat patients, not in how to run businesses.
Your 44K statistic is way out of wack. They go to emergency rooms and get care if they want it.
The free market is what lifts poor people out of poverty, brings new drugs and treatment to the masses, and lowers their costs.
ALL laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a gun. This is fine when the govt is using force against a thief or murderer or rapist, but when the govt is forcing one person to pay for the health care of another, and paying the bureaucrats and politicians along the way, then there is no difference between govt force and theft.
Gandhi would not approve.
I ran for congress 3 times. I opposed the Iraq war, the USA PATRIOT Act and defended marriage equality.
government is of the people, by the people, for the people. if you're anti-government, you hate America. WE are the government. libertardians spread submission to corporations and deceit. otherwise, they're hilarious.
About 99% of incumbents who run for re-election win. Most politicians are dishonest, and in the pay of special interests. And you think they represent "we the people?"
Crazy.
I'd say that after looking at the dismal track record of just about everything the govt does, anyone who advocates the govt solve any real problem is hilarious.
War on poverty? War on drugs? War on terrorism? How are those going Mr. statism defender?
the free market exists to serve the people. America doesn't exist to serve the free market. when the free market fails (which is often without proper regulation and enforcement), it needs to have its ass kicked. the free market is failing Americans of all ranges when it comes to healthcare. a robust public option to compete with bloated insurance companies is a good start. if that doesn't work, medicare for all.
@KataVideo that is a great saying, "the free market exists to serve the people, america doesn't exist to serve the free market", I think too many people think the free market is perfect, and any government interference in it or anything else really, is too much big evil government.
@freewebjunk thanks. a lot of these freemarketeers forget that there's absolutely nothing in the constitution saying that we must have a free market.
on the other hand, article one section 8 of the constitution says "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and **provide for the common defense and general welfare** of the United States"
it says nothing about commies, socialists and muslims.
Govt now soaks up about 35% of GDP in this country. So we are about 35% of the way to total govt control. I agree with you that zero govt is not ideal, but neither is 35%. The balance is somewhere in between.
We now have too much govt, and we need to rein in the power of the corrupt politicians, not give them more power to control our private lives.
Let's form private charities to help the poor gain access to health care. Will you join me?
Government soaks about 35% of GDP because our society is bs and can't take care of themselves. I blame the gap between rich and the poor. Ever figured that out?
"Let's form private charities!"
No, it never works. When rich gets richer, transfer of money gets bigger and bigger, there will not be middle class. Rather, Middle class will have less and less, relying heavily on credit, and hoping they get jobs with degrees they get...to serve corporation.
What a pessimistic view of human nature! I can understand pessimism about politicians, but you are cutting down the people here! Such an elitist attitude!
The gap between the rich and poor is not the problem. The goal is not to narrow the gap, the goal is to improve the lot of the very poorest. And the best way to do that is to improve employment opportunities and to make entrepreneurship, which is the main way that the poor get rich, more easily done.
Difference between Politicians and "Insurance companies:" Insurance feeds politicians, politicians does her biddings.
We need a government that will BREAK DOWN international corporation with BILLIONS of profit. We need an effective government that has POWER TO CRUSH industries. We need a government that has NO LOBBIES. We need a government that IGNORES YOU AND LISTENS TO REASON.
Yes, the ins cos feed the politicians because the politicians have power to tip the scales in the marketplace in favor of one corp over the other. If they lacked this power (which is not authorized in the Constn anyway) then the campaign contributions would not be offered in the first place and our politicians would not be tempted by the bribes to violate their oaths of office and sell their people up the river as they do so often.
We need a LESS powerful govt so less corp welfare is granted.
Yet you did not bother to actually answer my argument about govt and force. Is it because you can't? Is it because you would prefer to obscure the fact?
Politicians are mostly corrupt Americans. Even worse than most CEO's.
I'm not jealous of people who sell out for power. I pity them.
I am in favor of individual Americans controlling their own lives, but you want politicians to control them. You want servitude, because you think you can be among the masters.
The Democrats campaigned on a FULL public option in the last election. The American people have spoken - they elected a Democratic, House, Senate, and executive.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
That's one interpretation...
The other is that swing voters were not voting for liberal change, so much as voting against Republican mishandling of the war, spending, and the deficit.
This second explanation is more compatible with current polls, as well as the reaction against D's in the 11/09 elections.
What this is telling us is that the D's have gone too far to the left, and the people are about to rein them in by electing R's in Nov. of 2010.
Well, your clairvoyancy skills are remarkable. Not only do you know why the voters decided to make state elections a referendum on a piece of federal legislation (while nontheless voting to elect even more Democrats to actual federal office); but you know how they're going to vote a year from now, too! And you also know that they're lying when they tell pollsters that they favour the public option. You are a remarkable individual, freesk8!
The past is not always a reliable predictor of the future. After all, the President's party picked up a Congressional seat this year that had been reliably Republican for decades. Perhaps the radical over-reaching has been on the other side?
The R's screwed up that race massively. NY 23 had a liberal R running against a D and an unqualified conservative I. The fact that an independent could get 45% of the vote shows how much reaction there was against the D.
I think the lesson of that race is that the Republican Party is split, with potentially fatal results. I think you need to include that in the equation when you prognosticate about 2010.
"What this is telling us is that the D's have gone too far to the left" They have not. They don't even come close. The right on the other hand has left the political spectrum straight into loonyland, dragging every debate with them.
Hmm...... Polls have consistently showed the American populous wants the "option" of a Public Option. So yes, you are correct, the majority doesn't want the Public Option.
What they want is to give other Americans the ability to chose what is best for themselves, via the Public Option.
rasmussen is a notorious outlier. rasmussen has decided to abandon unbiased polling in favor of telling conservatards what they want to hear. every other poll comes back with similar numbers, all refuting assmussen.
If I pay for someone to build my home and they take the money and build a house for somebody else - THAT IS ILLEGAL. All Congress and Senate who take our money and ignore the majority - the actual majority - not the 10% claiming to be the majority - all who demonstrate a conflict of interest and who are extorting money from American citizens will be removed from office and arrested for their illegal activities.
Bitch McConnell made his fortune with the medical establishment. Speaking of Delay, why is his sorry ass still on the street? All these clowns stink no matter the party and need term limits so they don't make a career of it!
He even uses the word DELAY. I can't believe how obvious he is. The solution is to delay while all the American poeple look at the bill? *ALL* the American people? He wants *ALL* of the American poeple to read it? Delay it? Then Debate it? Then shoot it into space? Seriously, this is a good bill for America and yet the GOP want to stop it. What planet are you on McConnell and what temperature is it?
I'm guessing McConnell hasnt been without health care all his life. He's has royal treatment for decades and yet he doesn't want all American's to have the best care they can get.
Free market philosophy says that people will all compete for HIS job & that'll improve the quality of all things.... or some shit like that. They aren't even tryna make good excuses anymore.
Yeah, capitalism in this form isn't working. It's time to explore a blend of economic principles. But ultimately, it's time to get past this abject greed. Keeping people healthy is expensive biz. But it shouldn't be treated as for-profit biz.
Most people do support the type of reform the Democrats are trying to pass through Congress.
Even the conservative leaning, biased Rasmussen poll the GOP & Fox love to tout has the country 50-50 on the bill, so when McConnell says the people are "overwhelmingly telling us don't pass it" that's a huge LIE.
But I don't expect less from McConnell or the obstructionists.
When a Republican says 'The American people' he/she doesn't mean the majority of American citizens. He/she means the majority of southern whites in America - that's all he/she can mean. They are 'The American People' for a Republican, they are the tea-bagging protesters, the town-hall hecklers - if McConnell is honest, that's who he's speaking for. The (southern, white) American People.
The GOP "will" delay major health reform? Uhm, hello. They've been delaying major health reform for DECADES. The issues haven't changed, the players haven't changed and the GOP's willingness to sell the country out to the major insurers will never change.
There have been proposals kicking around DC on health care since FDR's administration, so let's not lie and tell people this is a new issue we need to study.
Where does he get the idea that the majority of Americans want to continue the policy of medical bankruptcy? Where does he get the idea that Americans want to continually worry about being denied coverage after years of being insured?
Simple, because he only considers the opinions of 'real' Americans, and if you were in the majority and voted for the dems and healthcare reform then you are not a 'real' American.
Poor people don't vote,that's why.The damn elections are held on a Tuesday,that's why. The Elite purposely don't want working people to vote.
If voting was so important to our democracy, we'd vote on Saturdays. Then Mitch would be at Churchill Downs drinking Bourbon, instead of denying people affordable Health Care.
Are his lips moving???? What are those words coming from his bought lips? Most Americans DON"T want health care reform? I can't find a font big enough to say BS
wow, and when we call them the party of NO they say thats not right they want to see it happen. but now they are just out right saying they are the party of NO and happy to be it. All I can say is 2010 will be a lot of fun... by the way they can do this all they want it will pass and be sighed into law before summer of 2010
Everything that is benificial for the Democratic party is bad for the Republican party. I hope you get HC reform, maybe then you will become a more stable country. :)
it will happen and the right will keep trying to kick out any one who is in the middle and not falling in line with what the hard core right wants. that is only good for the dems in 2010 and 2012
I wish Obama would do that and then push aside anyone who is not going to help. but Obama want to be the nice guy that everyone likes and want to have both sides be his friends. but I think he knows that that is bs but must play the game. I think sooner or later he will just snap and tell the GOP to fuck off (in a nice was). I think it will happen but just a matter of time. tell then we can watch the gop eat themselves are they go hard right.
Stupid fucking peckerwood honkeys, EVERYBODY WANTS FUCKING HEALTHCARE REFORM. What about the war? Nobody wanted that shit, but these assholes did it anyway.
Hear, Hear! Even worse, the whole fucking world (except UK under Blair/Bush&CoPuppet) told them that Saddam didn't have WMD's. Noooo don't listen to Europe who you have been allies with for 70 or so years.
Afghanistan might have been nessecary... I am a bit split on the Afghanwar.
They keep saying the American people don't want healthcare reform with a public option and yet polls consistently show that they in fact do. This is not merely ingenuous, it is an outright lie. Mr. wattle neck should get his facts straight before he speaks for anyone.
really no it does not. your going way off track here and that really does not do anything to help deal with what the hell was being talked about. the simple facts are no matter what bs you can say the 1% of rich people (and it does not matter what the dollor is worth or anything there still rich) use the stupid people of faith and the poor to help them get richer. really its that simple.
1. You don't understand what the word 'bankrupt' means, and
2. Conservatives like to oversimplify and even distort things to fit their preconceptions. Ideology before reality.
Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid and Cash for Clunkers are not bankrupt, the Post Office is in the red but is self financing, and Fannie Mae never had a single financial problem until AFTER it became a PRIVATE corporation in 1968.
Sick,sick,sick! What a sick attitude!
angelwatching1 1 year ago
Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!! That freaking guy is freaking hilarious!!
BJBlitzstein 1 year ago
Solid point of view. There will be health reform let's just hope that it is done right.
Healthreform4USA 2 years ago
its fatal, like a naval military armada
WKaliberr 2 years ago
Republicans delay health care reform ? Well, there's a surprise .I mean considering they've done so for the past 8 years as 45,000 people die a year .
thevirtueallliberal 2 years ago
I am a proponent of healthcare reform. But I don't see the logic in saying that we are going to fix our current system of entitlements (Medicare and Medicaid) by establishing the biggest entitlement program in American history.
SgtSoot 2 years ago
Lets wait for single payer while thousands die but that is the cost of freedom.
FlowerClown 2 years ago
The problem with a single payer healthcare system is the cost. We already had a public debt of $11.4 trillion, and if Obama gets his way the debt will grow to over $23 trillion over the next ten years, which will have drastic economic consequences and possibly lead to the collapse of US currency. No government entitelement program is worth the bankrupting of our country!
SgtSoot 2 years ago
You're presenting a straw man argument.
The current bill has nothing to do with single payer health care. It's contains a weak public option where the government has to negotiate with providers. The cost is $900 billion (equal to the current cost of the war in Iraq) over ten years and will cover 36 million uninsured Americans.
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
Actually, the cost of the bill would be about $1.5 trillion over the next ten years according to the CBO. The public option is anything but weak, it would not operate like Medicare. It is actually a stand alone government-run insurance agency. The notion that a government-run insurance company will be able to compete fairly with the private sector is extremely nieve.
SgtSoot 2 years ago
This is straight from CBO . gov.
Enacting H.R. 3962 would result in a net reduction in federal budget deficits of $109 billion over the 2010-2019 period. ... The estimate includes a projected net cost of $891 billion over 10 years for the proposed expansions in insurance coverage.
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
The public option currently proposed is weak. It forces the government to negotiate prices with providers. This was pushed by conservative and blue dog democrats.
If liberal democrats had their way the public option would operate like Medicare, with the same rates, and would save taxpayers another $85 billion.
However, some reps in congress and folks like you, want to protect the profits of private health care companies. And that's why it was watered down.
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
The major problem with our current healthcare system is the per capita costs of healthcare benefits, which are by far the highest in the world. But by the government's own admission, the Affordable Healthcare for America Act would actually drive per capita healthcare costs up. They should atleast have the courtesy to change the title of the bill.
SgtSoot 2 years ago
Same thing they said durning the Medicare debate. Granted taxes need to be raised to pay for it we all know that. Its not the 80's where we just lower taxes and spend like crazy.A VAT tax or an import tax should do the trick.Get ride of the Bush tax cuts and off shore tax havens Then there is the No limit on funding on the war on terror because as Bush said we can not put a price on freedom and our security.
To give every one FREE health care and to add it the the national debt is just crazy.
FlowerClown 2 years ago
The American people overwhelmingly want this bill. The Republicans are obstructionist. They had 10 years of control and health costs doubled. The Democrats need to pass this bill and run right over these obstructionists.
chinacat22 2 years ago
@chinacat22
According to whom?
HOOSIERLOVER 2 years ago
@HOOSIERLOVER
Washington Post, CBS, CNN, NBC, EBRI, New York Times, ABC, etc, etc, etc.
The only one that came up south - Rasmussen (of the FOX News Rasmussens) - attributed their finding of a lack of support due to a weak or absent public option.
steveoboston 2 years ago
Republitards exist solely on ideology, ignoring inconvenient facts that get in the way.
If a Republican pushed an old lady into traffic, and a Democrat helped an old lady cross the street, they'd find a way to demonize the Democrat and make the Republican a hero.
ProgressiveAction10 2 years ago 2
Polarization of everything exists on both sides, and always masked in a holier-than -though attitude.
You might reconsider how objective your comment actually is vs how polarized it is.
Both sides need a lot of growing up. Both sides contribute to animosity, vitriol, and a separation of the citizenry on subjects that, ironically, the people don't really care about.
We are a nation, we need more people that can work together.
DiscountPeople 2 years ago
Mexico should build huge hospitals all along the border and advertise that they'll do any procedure for one tenth the price. It would provide jobs for Mexican nationals, provide competition the Americans need and improve relations. Win-Win.
patriciaredstone 2 years ago
The party of no.
The party of nothing.
Let them block the health care bill.
And make them pay for it in 2010 as most people want the Public Option.
DillonX 2 years ago 4
You're wrong. It's not the party of no. It's the country of NO. No Bullshit. Obamacare is a BULLSHIT plan. Only a fucking idiot thinks social healthcare is the way to go. You're just a fucking TOOL that would favor ANYTHING that Obongo wants to pass in a bill. Well, FUCK THAT.
JimboVids 2 years ago
Hey all you liberals out there, try answering this question: Why would a government buried under an $11.4 trillion mountain of debt and massive entitlement programs want to establish the biggest entitlement program in American history?
SgtSoot 2 years ago
We will answer the question after you "conservatives" get done explaining why you buried the country in $10.7 trillion of debt.
The debt was quadrupled under Reagan and Bush Sr. and doubled again under G.W. Bush-- all supposedly convervative republicans. The debt did not increase under Clinton.
1980 - $800 billion
1992 - $5 trillion
2008 - $10.7 trillion
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
Are you implying that Bush was a Conservative? President Bush didn't veto a single spending bill in his eight years in office. He can claim to be a conservative all he wants, but the reality is that he was the most fiscally liberal president in American history. Also, I'm surprised that your not giving any of the Republicans who served in Congress in the 1990's the same credit you gave Bill Clinton. Republicans gained a dominant majority in Congress in 1994, very early in Bill Clinton's term.
SgtSoot 2 years ago
No, I am not implying that Bush is a conservative. I am implying that none of you are.
"Reagan proved deficits don't matter." -- Vice President Dick Cheney, 2004
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
I want to see lower taxes, and a smaller more efficient government. This country is built on self reliance, and the government seems to want to destroy that. If you agree with me, than you are also a conservative.
SgtSoot 2 years ago
God Bless You
Christe Eleison
Kyrie Eleison
Crux Fidelis
Semper Fidelis
Steven Pasaporte Garcia
United States Marine
Esprit De Corps
United States Marine Corps
SuzumiyaHaruhi0 2 years ago
Yeah Larry, remember you are bashing THE MINORITY PARTY NOW. They have got to start feeling the pressure to get something right for a change. Maybe they won't but don't worry about that too much because in that case, they'll just continue to lose. This is bad legislation as it stands and it NEEDS REFORM. Thanks Larry!
DemocracyCorner 2 years ago
we need TRUE capitalism, TRUE free market.
NO Lobby money, 100% FOREIGN intervention into our society, and BREAKING DOWN corporations.
YoungSpotUBrock 2 years ago 2
This lying prick sold his shriveled little soul years ago.
His top three industry contributors?
Lawyers/Law Firms$1,535,398
Securities & Investment$1,512,462
Health Professionals$1,442,991
Sorry Kentucky - did you think you elected him to represent you? Hahahahah - he's representing the corporate interests on your dime and laughing at his electorate all the way to the bank.
47f0 2 years ago
Is anyone seriously surprised at McConnell's revalation as that's what the GOP's plan has been from the start. what you don't hear are any productive proposals that address any shortcomings in the plan using the principles and values that they are so quick to promote. The GOP claims to represent the people but I can't tell as they consistantly represent the interests of those who are upper-class or corporations and share little commonality with the majority of Americans.
wildpeachatl737 2 years ago
While I note the obvious critical statements, I also still feel this is A GOOD THING THE GOP WILL SLOW THIS DOWN. Did any of you guys see how Kucinich voted? He voted "No" and for damn good reasons. If the GOP sees Health Care as an opportunity for something more than Bipartisan Defeatism they could be a positive force in this. They must certainly improve on their ideas for amendments. THE MOVEMENT is bipartisan, will continue to throw ideas at them and HOPE with a strong martini! Stay positive!
Larrymcphereson 2 years ago
Kucinich voted no because he thinks it's weak and the including public option isn't strong enough.
Notwithstanding the fate of H.R. 3962, America will someday come to recognize the broad social and economic benefits of a not-for-profit, single-payer health care system, which is good for the American people and good for Americas businesses, with of course the notable exceptions being insurance and pharmaceuticals."
MrGovtCheese 2 years ago
Yes, as I understand it, the "public option" isn't really open to "the general public" either which makes it VERY misleading! Our corrupt media has not fairly covered Health Care but instead runs advertIsements for the FOR PROFITs. I think the Kucinich response on Democracy Now which you can view right here on You Tube or in my favorites or those on DemocracyCorner should be required viewing especially for the Senate. P.S. WE HAVE A PRIVATE CORPORATION CENSORING OUR DEBATES FOR PUBLIC OFFICE!
Larrymcphereson 2 years ago
Don't worry Larry, I'm sure Oprah and or Anderson Cooper will soon have a hard hitting report on the problem. OK, I'm kidding but it kind of makes you think... I haven't ever seen Kucinich on Oprah either.
DemocracyCorner 2 years ago
But the problem I have is that there haven't been any inclination or indication that the GOP's agenda is anything other than 'bipartisan defeatism'. Kucinich's vote was due to there not being single-payer option as he's a strong supporter of it. Although I always hold out hope and would really love to see true bipartisanship from the GOP, from recent and past history, I doubt it. You'd better make that martini a double with a Heineken back. Better yet, make that a pitcher...
wildpeachatl737 2 years ago
OMG! I think I just fell in love again! Isn't it the GOP that's always talking about State's rights and WHY IS IT THAT THEY NEVER LIVE UP TO THAT? WE'RE WISE TO THE LIES! They only seem concerned about CORPORATE RIGHTS but neither side of the aisle is being honest anymore. Did I mention I make a great smoked turkey? Sorry Al Gore but I'm courting!
Larrymcphereson 2 years ago
The GOP has already "delayed the process". For decades. They have sat, idle and uncaring while a dysfunctional health care model kills more Americans than any terrorist ever dreamed of.
47f0 2 years ago 3
This guy does not care about working Americans. He cares about re-election money from the health care industry.
poohbudpita 2 years ago
THIS IS GOOD! Amazing to hear good news on FOX. This bill needs serious debate and consideration. I still want someone to explain HOW CAN WE MANDATE FOR PROFIT HEALTH CARE INSURANCE WHILE PROTECTING THE DRUG LOBBY FROM FAIR MARKET COMPETITION?
Larrymcphereson 2 years ago
A bold face liar. "the American people don't want health care reform"?
ARom101 2 years ago 2
True - every poll I've seen suggests the exact opposite.
fl00ders 2 years ago
"The majority of people are telling us not to pass it"
Except every major poll says the exact opposite. People want the public option by an average of a 20% point spread!
(60/40)
creamsykle 2 years ago
MCCONNELL = DOUCHE.
but then we already knew this.
RNC is a joke. just look at that laughable ass Chairman Steele. so comical.
baronmorris 2 years ago
How can Republicans be so completely out of touch with the American people.
Richardgwm 2 years ago 6
@Richardgwn "how can the republicans be so completely out of touch with the American people?"
I think it's because "the people" no longer exist in their thinking. they only care about "the base", and the rest of America are "the sheeple" or have been declared enemies and terrorists for daring to disagree.
KataVideo 2 years ago
I wanna shove that guy's wattle down his throat...but that's just my opinion ;)
k166a 2 years ago
Republicans speak with forked tongue.
Ansonidak 2 years ago 2
out of each of their faces.
or perhaps it is a case of them having two asses.
baronmorris 2 years ago
This dumbass thinks he speaks for the American people? Maybe someone needs to remind him that we had this little thing called an election last year, and his party of teabaggers got their asses handed to them.
mclev 2 years ago
and the democrates arent
GooberxX09 2 years ago
the republicans have no interest in governing. they pretend corporations and the free market will solve all problems. even though the free-for-all market and corporations are causing all of our problems. and remember when bush and brownie decided that fema wouldn't help new orleans..? remember how corporations came riding in to the rescue? yeah, I don't either. because it didn't happen.
the dems are too wussy right now, except for grayson and weiner and a handful of others.
KataVideo 2 years ago
The GOP out to prove government is ineffective.
j0hnwi11iams 2 years ago
The one thing they excel at.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
you really cant believe any polls anymore because the parties will just ask the people who agree with them
GooberxX09 2 years ago
liberals are idiots
GooberxX09 2 years ago
Ignore the opinion of the population? How the hell do assholes like this get away with lies like that on tv? Should a real journalist stop them after a comment like that? Reference the countless polls that show how in support of health reform and the public option this country is? ARRRRRG, stuff like this makes me very angry...
Taboda 2 years ago
statistics presented courtesy of an alternate universe.
baddmanaz 2 years ago
@baddmanaz
Actually, most likely presented by the Lewin Group
A thinktank funded entirely by the medical insurance industry.
greyflcn 2 years ago
The American people want health care reform. Did they want to continue war? No. Did they want warrantless wiretaps? No. Did they want the government to engage in useless spending? No. Did they want to cut our rights with the patriot act? no. I could go on and on. This assholes party fucked us over for a long time and now they act like the Democrats are the guilty ones - they want to forget about the 8 years under Bush. The Democrats have their problems. but the GOP? come on. 20x worse
spencerdev91 2 years ago 2
@spencerdev91 ,I more than agree with you!
sarsanch 2 years ago
This guy is a maggot.
Philinspaces 2 years ago
The GOP makes me want to destroy something beautiful
dutchhaze1 2 years ago
McConnell...fu.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 2 years ago
What a King D-bag
whitewolf323 2 years ago
You can see the wires by which the health insurance companies are moving his lips and blinking his eyes. Puppet!
MrCallipygous 2 years ago 4
miss mcconnell hates America.
KataVideo 2 years ago
Congress Republicans don't give a shit because they already have health care. Fuck 'em.
johnny718bravo 2 years ago 4
McConnell is so proud of legislative inertia, it's sickening.
fishhead06 2 years ago
Republicans controlled Congress from 1994 through 2006. The fact that they did nothing to reform the health care insurance industry only proves that they were taking their time, and making sure they got everything right.
Or something...
TrollBuster9090 2 years ago 3
Sen. McConnell doesn't care about Americans he's got the best health insurance tax payers can buy. No wonder he's wants to delay health reform.
OhioDemocrat 2 years ago 3
Ironically, Mitch, like every federal employee, gets his healthcare through a national healthcare exchange that's exactly like the one he's fighting against. It's amazing. It must be some kind of historical world record for hypocrisy.
TrollBuster9090 2 years ago 7
I have an idea to make healthcare better. Anyone who voted for the congresspeople who votes against it are excluded from access to all provisions in the bill. That way the people who want it can get it and the people who don't, can't even when they need it. Then we can say "Toldya so" as the GOPindenberg falls from the sky.
spikesmth 2 years ago
Bitch McConnell.
swankrecords 2 years ago
hey fuck you, douchebag.
arequipa1 2 years ago
You are ignoring the American population ya douche bag. Poll after poll shows that over 60% wants the Public Option!
AstoundedAtheist 2 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You're confusing two polls, or using old ones.
The majority wants reform, but the majority does NOT want that reform to include a public option.
freesk8 2 years ago
not true dude.
HugeJohn51 2 years ago
Care to elaborate?
Links? References? Specifics?
No?
freesk8 2 years ago
10/2009 abc news wash post poll "57% of Americans support the public option. That number climbs to 76% if the public plan is limited to those who can't afford private insurance on their own. "
10/2009 cbs news poll "The much-debated "public option" -- a government-run insurance plan -- still has the support of 62 percent of the public. "
America WANTS the public option. capitalism DESERVES competition, not corporate monopoly.
KataVideo 2 years ago 5
You could also mention the New England Journal of Medicine poll that showed 70% of physicians were in favor of either the public option or single payer.
TrollBuster9090 2 years ago 7
@TrollBuster9090
I could mention the new england journal of medicine article that shows 70% of docs were for either the public option or single payer, but you just did mention that new england article that shows that 70% of physicians are for either the public option or single payer.
It can't be mentioned enough
KataVideo 2 years ago 3
You don't ask economists how to do brain surgery, so why ask physicians how to run markets, or insurance industries?
Physicians are famously ignorant about how to invest their own money and how to run businesses.
Socrates noted long ago how a man who was skilled in one area tended to think he could hold forth on other areas.
It's a form of Hayek's "fatal conceit."
freesk8 2 years ago
that's an idiotic blanket statement you cannot possibly back-up. hayek is a jackass freemarketeer.
you claim doctors shouldn't be taken seriously in healthcare reform because you don't like their investments?
it's about 44,000 AMERICANS dying every year because of lack of access to healthcare. it's about 2,266 U.S. military veterans dying last year because they lacked health insurance and their VA bennies didn't suffice.
I couldn't give a fuck about investments & the free market.
KataVideo 2 years ago 2
Calling Hayek a jackass does not argue against his ideas.
Claiming that doctors know anything about running insurance companies is pretty suspect. They are trained in how to treat patients, not in how to run businesses.
Your 44K statistic is way out of wack. They go to emergency rooms and get care if they want it.
The free market is what lifts poor people out of poverty, brings new drugs and treatment to the masses, and lowers their costs.
Govt is force. Do you advocate force?
freesk8 2 years ago
gov't is NOT force.
false choice is false choice.
libertardian=fail.
run for office if you don't like it. oh that's right, libertardians already do run for office, but no one votes for them because they're idiots.
KataVideo 2 years ago
ALL laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a gun. This is fine when the govt is using force against a thief or murderer or rapist, but when the govt is forcing one person to pay for the health care of another, and paying the bureaucrats and politicians along the way, then there is no difference between govt force and theft.
Gandhi would not approve.
I ran for congress 3 times. I opposed the Iraq war, the USA PATRIOT Act and defended marriage equality.
Have YOU ever run for anything?
freesk8 2 years ago
government is of the people, by the people, for the people. if you're anti-government, you hate America. WE are the government. libertardians spread submission to corporations and deceit. otherwise, they're hilarious.
ayn rand is history's most-disproved author.
KataVideo 2 years ago
About 99% of incumbents who run for re-election win. Most politicians are dishonest, and in the pay of special interests. And you think they represent "we the people?"
Crazy.
I'd say that after looking at the dismal track record of just about everything the govt does, anyone who advocates the govt solve any real problem is hilarious.
War on poverty? War on drugs? War on terrorism? How are those going Mr. statism defender?
Care to disprove even one of Rand's ideas?
Bet ya can't.
freesk8 2 years ago
the free market exists to serve the people. America doesn't exist to serve the free market. when the free market fails (which is often without proper regulation and enforcement), it needs to have its ass kicked. the free market is failing Americans of all ranges when it comes to healthcare. a robust public option to compete with bloated insurance companies is a good start. if that doesn't work, medicare for all.
KataVideo 2 years ago
@KataVideo that is a great saying, "the free market exists to serve the people, america doesn't exist to serve the free market", I think too many people think the free market is perfect, and any government interference in it or anything else really, is too much big evil government.
freewebjunk 2 years ago 2
@freewebjunk thanks. a lot of these freemarketeers forget that there's absolutely nothing in the constitution saying that we must have a free market.
on the other hand, article one section 8 of the constitution says "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and **provide for the common defense and general welfare** of the United States"
it says nothing about commies, socialists and muslims.
KataVideo 2 years ago
Govt now soaks up about 35% of GDP in this country. So we are about 35% of the way to total govt control. I agree with you that zero govt is not ideal, but neither is 35%. The balance is somewhere in between.
We now have too much govt, and we need to rein in the power of the corrupt politicians, not give them more power to control our private lives.
Let's form private charities to help the poor gain access to health care. Will you join me?
freesk8 2 years ago
Government soaks about 35% of GDP because our society is bs and can't take care of themselves. I blame the gap between rich and the poor. Ever figured that out?
"Let's form private charities!"
No, it never works. When rich gets richer, transfer of money gets bigger and bigger, there will not be middle class. Rather, Middle class will have less and less, relying heavily on credit, and hoping they get jobs with degrees they get...to serve corporation.
YoungSpotUBrock 2 years ago
What a pessimistic view of human nature! I can understand pessimism about politicians, but you are cutting down the people here! Such an elitist attitude!
The gap between the rich and poor is not the problem. The goal is not to narrow the gap, the goal is to improve the lot of the very poorest. And the best way to do that is to improve employment opportunities and to make entrepreneurship, which is the main way that the poor get rich, more easily done.
That's the free market.
freesk8 2 years ago
The alternative to the free market is govt force. It is political power. It is violation of the freedom of individuals.
Is that what you are advocating?
I agree that the market has flaws, but you are proposing to replace it with something that is even worse: control by politicians.
Think first.
freesk8 2 years ago
Difference between Politicians and "Insurance companies:" Insurance feeds politicians, politicians does her biddings.
We need a government that will BREAK DOWN international corporation with BILLIONS of profit. We need an effective government that has POWER TO CRUSH industries. We need a government that has NO LOBBIES. We need a government that IGNORES YOU AND LISTENS TO REASON.
STFU STFU STFU.
YoungSpotUBrock 2 years ago
Yes, the ins cos feed the politicians because the politicians have power to tip the scales in the marketplace in favor of one corp over the other. If they lacked this power (which is not authorized in the Constn anyway) then the campaign contributions would not be offered in the first place and our politicians would not be tempted by the bribes to violate their oaths of office and sell their people up the river as they do so often.
We need a LESS powerful govt so less corp welfare is granted.
freesk8 2 years ago
yes, libertardian propagandist.. think first.
do you really expect anyone with half a brain to believe your false choice of a black-or-white argument?
or are you merely trying to sway the easily-led?
you fucktards hate America.
Gov't is of the people, by the people, for the people.. we ARE the gov't. those "politicians" you refer to as an alien race are AMERICANS.
jealous that they've advanced a little further than you?
or are you adverse to the American People controlling their own economy?
KataVideo 2 years ago
Yet you did not bother to actually answer my argument about govt and force. Is it because you can't? Is it because you would prefer to obscure the fact?
Politicians are mostly corrupt Americans. Even worse than most CEO's.
I'm not jealous of people who sell out for power. I pity them.
I am in favor of individual Americans controlling their own lives, but you want politicians to control them. You want servitude, because you think you can be among the masters.
It's a foolish game.
freesk8 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The Nov 7-8 Rasmussen poll has 52% opposing the current health care reform bill (which has the public option) while only 45% support it.
freesk8 2 years ago
I have to do your homework for you? how about fucking google it yourself and see. Holy fuck man this shit is easy to find.
HugeJohn51 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The Nov 7-8 Rasmussen poll has 52% opposing the current health care reform bill (which has the public option) while only 45% support it.
freesk8 2 years ago
The Democrats campaigned on a FULL public option in the last election. The American people have spoken - they elected a Democratic, House, Senate, and executive.
fishhead06 2 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
That's one interpretation...
The other is that swing voters were not voting for liberal change, so much as voting against Republican mishandling of the war, spending, and the deficit.
This second explanation is more compatible with current polls, as well as the reaction against D's in the 11/09 elections.
What this is telling us is that the D's have gone too far to the left, and the people are about to rein them in by electing R's in Nov. of 2010.
I'm no R, but we'll see.
freesk8 2 years ago
Did you miss the last election?
LOL!
AstoundedAtheist 2 years ago
Nope, I voted Libertarian.
freesk8 2 years ago
You never told me how old you are.
AstoundedAtheist 2 years ago
Ah, you noticed.
It's irrelevant.
You tell me why it might be relevant to our discussion, and I MIGHT tell you my age.
freesk8 2 years ago
keep believing that bro
MarkG45 2 years ago
Well, your clairvoyancy skills are remarkable. Not only do you know why the voters decided to make state elections a referendum on a piece of federal legislation (while nontheless voting to elect even more Democrats to actual federal office); but you know how they're going to vote a year from now, too! And you also know that they're lying when they tell pollsters that they favour the public option. You are a remarkable individual, freesk8!
fishhead06 2 years ago
In the last 40 years, the party of the elected POTUS has ALWAYS lost seats in Congress.
It's standard fare, and works for the R's as well as the D's:
1) Party A gets elected, and takes this for a mandate.
2) Party A over-reaches, and attempts to enact more radical change than Americans wanted.
3) Swing voters vote for the other party 2 years later, reducing the POTUS' ability to pursue his agenda.
4) The pendulum swings.
freesk8 2 years ago
The past is not always a reliable predictor of the future. After all, the President's party picked up a Congressional seat this year that had been reliably Republican for decades. Perhaps the radical over-reaching has been on the other side?
fishhead06 2 years ago
The R's screwed up that race massively. NY 23 had a liberal R running against a D and an unqualified conservative I. The fact that an independent could get 45% of the vote shows how much reaction there was against the D.
freesk8 2 years ago
probably because D or R both represents nothing but corruption.
YoungSpotUBrock 2 years ago
Here, I agree with you completely! :)
freesk8 2 years ago
I think the lesson of that race is that the Republican Party is split, with potentially fatal results. I think you need to include that in the equation when you prognosticate about 2010.
fishhead06 2 years ago
"What this is telling us is that the D's have gone too far to the left" They have not. They don't even come close. The right on the other hand has left the political spectrum straight into loonyland, dragging every debate with them.
wimscheers 2 years ago
Hmm...... Polls have consistently showed the American populous wants the "option" of a Public Option. So yes, you are correct, the majority doesn't want the Public Option.
What they want is to give other Americans the ability to chose what is best for themselves, via the Public Option.
Just out of curiosity. How old are you, freesk8?
AstoundedAtheist 2 years ago 4
The Nov 7-8 Rasmussen poll has 52% opposing the current health care reform bill (which has the public option) while only 45% support it.
freesk8 2 years ago
Rasmussen is a Right wing poll. Every other poll shows a vast majority of Americans supporting a public option.
glory789 2 years ago 3
rasmussen is a notorious outlier. rasmussen has decided to abandon unbiased polling in favor of telling conservatards what they want to hear. every other poll comes back with similar numbers, all refuting assmussen.
KataVideo 2 years ago
Good job! Now average the Rasmussen poll with 10 others and you should come up with around 60% in support of the Public Option.
AstoundedAtheist 2 years ago 2
If I pay for someone to build my home and they take the money and build a house for somebody else - THAT IS ILLEGAL. All Congress and Senate who take our money and ignore the majority - the actual majority - not the 10% claiming to be the majority - all who demonstrate a conflict of interest and who are extorting money from American citizens will be removed from office and arrested for their illegal activities.
SamariaTV 2 years ago
Bitch McConnell made his fortune with the medical establishment. Speaking of Delay, why is his sorry ass still on the street? All these clowns stink no matter the party and need term limits so they don't make a career of it!
billeybop 2 years ago
He even uses the word DELAY. I can't believe how obvious he is. The solution is to delay while all the American poeple look at the bill? *ALL* the American people? He wants *ALL* of the American poeple to read it? Delay it? Then Debate it? Then shoot it into space? Seriously, this is a good bill for America and yet the GOP want to stop it. What planet are you on McConnell and what temperature is it?
mephesh 2 years ago
Why do these politicians lie. The majority of the american people want reform. What a corporate whore.
Hazmat347 2 years ago 3
NO, the majority do NOT want this piece of shit bill to pass.
arequipa1 2 years ago
I'm guessing McConnell hasnt been without health care all his life. He's has royal treatment for decades and yet he doesn't want all American's to have the best care they can get.
mephesh 2 years ago 3
Free market philosophy says that people will all compete for HIS job & that'll improve the quality of all things.... or some shit like that. They aren't even tryna make good excuses anymore.
upabittoolate 2 years ago
Love your comment, upabittoolate.
Capitalism is dropping the mask.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
Yeah, capitalism in this form isn't working. It's time to explore a blend of economic principles. But ultimately, it's time to get past this abject greed. Keeping people healthy is expensive biz. But it shouldn't be treated as for-profit biz.
upabittoolate 2 years ago 3
Most people do support the type of reform the Democrats are trying to pass through Congress.
Even the conservative leaning, biased Rasmussen poll the GOP & Fox love to tout has the country 50-50 on the bill, so when McConnell says the people are "overwhelmingly telling us don't pass it" that's a huge LIE.
But I don't expect less from McConnell or the obstructionists.
route99 2 years ago 4
When a Republican says 'The American people' he/she doesn't mean the majority of American citizens. He/she means the majority of southern whites in America - that's all he/she can mean. They are 'The American People' for a Republican, they are the tea-bagging protesters, the town-hall hecklers - if McConnell is honest, that's who he's speaking for. The (southern, white) American People.
MadDogOfist 2 years ago 3
Comment removed
route99 2 years ago
The GOP "will" delay major health reform? Uhm, hello. They've been delaying major health reform for DECADES. The issues haven't changed, the players haven't changed and the GOP's willingness to sell the country out to the major insurers will never change.
There have been proposals kicking around DC on health care since FDR's administration, so let's not lie and tell people this is a new issue we need to study.
route99 2 years ago
Where does he get the idea that the majority of Americans want to continue the policy of medical bankruptcy? Where does he get the idea that Americans want to continually worry about being denied coverage after years of being insured?
Simple, because he only considers the opinions of 'real' Americans, and if you were in the majority and voted for the dems and healthcare reform then you are not a 'real' American.
killerbandit 2 years ago
Hey, It's Yertle the Turtle. Hi Yertle.
Kentuckians, Why? Why? Why?
Poor people don't vote,that's why.The damn elections are held on a Tuesday,that's why. The Elite purposely don't want working people to vote.
If voting was so important to our democracy, we'd vote on Saturdays. Then Mitch would be at Churchill Downs drinking Bourbon, instead of denying people affordable Health Care.
wervasdeferens 2 years ago
Here Here now, you know that these honest vermin would never think such a thing! cough, cough, I'm choking.
billeybop 2 years ago
Are his lips moving???? What are those words coming from his bought lips? Most Americans DON"T want health care reform? I can't find a font big enough to say BS
JamJells 2 years ago
McConnell didn't care about reading the patriot act or in debating TARP
this guys a terrorist
marniespeaks 2 years ago
wow, and when we call them the party of NO they say thats not right they want to see it happen. but now they are just out right saying they are the party of NO and happy to be it. All I can say is 2010 will be a lot of fun... by the way they can do this all they want it will pass and be sighed into law before summer of 2010
thetruthaboutstuff 2 years ago
Everything that is benificial for the Democratic party is bad for the Republican party. I hope you get HC reform, maybe then you will become a more stable country. :)
10thAngel 2 years ago
it will happen and the right will keep trying to kick out any one who is in the middle and not falling in line with what the hard core right wants. that is only good for the dems in 2010 and 2012
thetruthaboutstuff 2 years ago
ya, I think some guy on CNN basicly said that Obama should go to everone and "Either you are WITH me or Against me?"
10thAngel 2 years ago
I wish Obama would do that and then push aside anyone who is not going to help. but Obama want to be the nice guy that everyone likes and want to have both sides be his friends. but I think he knows that that is bs but must play the game. I think sooner or later he will just snap and tell the GOP to fuck off (in a nice was). I think it will happen but just a matter of time. tell then we can watch the gop eat themselves are they go hard right.
thetruthaboutstuff 2 years ago 2
And kick unloyal democrats from their chairs!
10thAngel 2 years ago
Stupid fucking peckerwood honkeys, EVERYBODY WANTS FUCKING HEALTHCARE REFORM. What about the war? Nobody wanted that shit, but these assholes did it anyway.
britzman1 2 years ago 10
Hear, Hear! Even worse, the whole fucking world (except UK under Blair/Bush&CoPuppet) told them that Saddam didn't have WMD's. Noooo don't listen to Europe who you have been allies with for 70 or so years.
Afghanistan might have been nessecary... I am a bit split on the Afghanwar.
10thAngel 2 years ago
Hey 10th Angel
Where do they get the money for the sandbox wars ?
Its called counterfeiting currency with world leaders co-operating.
Proof
The Gold price has quadrupled in less than 10 years.
Explain Detroit = Freetrade
Are you for the genocide of civilians ? You might not be but the US government has no problem turning countries into glass parking lots.
boots920 2 years ago
Boots920 being incoherent as usal and just a slight relation with the general subject of previous written comment.
10thAngel 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Don't worry about it buddy when you see a gallon of gas at $100 US you'll clue in.
boots920 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Well HR 1207 - A bill to Audit the Federal Reserve
has over 300 co-sponsors still the American people will not be heard.
You know if you look at history the next bill that these assholes will be passing will be do We the people get to eat this week.
Healthcare ? Fuck the US government can't even run the post office break even.
Iraq - 4,000 patriots died for nothing, 1.4 million civilians got slaughtered (genocide) do you think these fucks care about healthcare ??
boots920 2 years ago
haha Boots920, it's you... again, fucking troll.
10thAngel 2 years ago 2
Ha ha what's up fucking government employee ?
boots920 2 years ago
Yea, I wonder who their constituents are and how they define "the American people".
Or, they can still be as delusional as they've been in the past couple of years.
DongFangShuo 2 years ago
His top lip doesn't move.
RUKiddinMeHuh 2 years ago
They keep saying the American people don't want healthcare reform with a public option and yet polls consistently show that they in fact do. This is not merely ingenuous, it is an outright lie. Mr. wattle neck should get his facts straight before he speaks for anyone.
wmg111 2 years ago
fuck lair over 70% of the population want this bill to pass. he is only listening to the rich 30% who stand to lose if this passes. he is an asshole
doink1422 2 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Hey wake up dip shit where do the counterfeiters get the money to pay for healthcare.
Like hello the US has been at War for 8 years with not Victory Bonds right ?
Money doesn't grow on trees you have to dig for it gold and silver is found in the ground.
Look at some Vids on Detroit that's where the standard of living is going for the entire country.
I figure they must be putting chemical lobotomy in the water look at the response of some of these assholes .
boots920 2 years ago
um the rich are only about 1% but they fool about 29% of poor people to think the GOP has there backs.
thetruthaboutstuff 2 years ago
Ummm The Federal Reserve is about .00001 of world population. but about 90% think the US dollar is worth a crap.
Ummm so sorry India bought 200 tons of gold so that percentage is no longer correct.
Define rich ? In Zimbabwe there's many trillionaires
boots920 2 years ago
love how that had nothing to do with what I said.
thetruthaboutstuff 2 years ago
Sure it does hamster your trying to say there's a difference between the Democunt and the Republipukes.
The government has each other's back otherwise George Bush would be on trial for War Crimes.
You're just blowing smoke up the hamsters ass.
boots920 2 years ago
really no it does not. your going way off track here and that really does not do anything to help deal with what the hell was being talked about. the simple facts are no matter what bs you can say the 1% of rich people (and it does not matter what the dollor is worth or anything there still rich) use the stupid people of faith and the poor to help them get richer. really its that simple.
thetruthaboutstuff 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
'Free Obamacare, my ass, Over a TRILLION DOLLARS, ain't exactly 'FREE',
Medicare..........Bankrupt
Social Security....... Bankrupt
Post Office............... Bankrupt
Medicaid..........Bankrupt
Cash for Clunkers.......... Bankrupt, Ineptitude
Fannie Mae............. Bankrupt.
Are you starting to see a pattern here yet,?
Strongtuit 2 years ago
"Are you starting to see a pattern here yet?"
Yes. Two patterns, in fact.
1. You don't understand what the word 'bankrupt' means, and
2. Conservatives like to oversimplify and even distort things to fit their preconceptions. Ideology before reality.
Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid and Cash for Clunkers are not bankrupt, the Post Office is in the red but is self financing, and Fannie Mae never had a single financial problem until AFTER it became a PRIVATE corporation in 1968.
TrollBuster9090 2 years ago
Nope people put value on the "paper" but really its just paper.
Like some folks get all pissed off about comparing the US Federal Reserve Note with the Zimbabwe Note.
Its the government that makes paper money valuable show me one government in the world that's valuable ?
But If I showed you a gold coin from any country at a glance and touch I would have to explain the value.
Our global fiat money system has ended being rich now means how much real money you have.
boots920 2 years ago
that is true my bad
doink1422 2 years ago
McConnell is a shit stick
GreenEnergy2112 2 years ago
Gray Old Pussy
WKaliberr 2 years ago 6