HORSE SORING ABUSE PART 2

[Steedrider]

The horses give so much because of what they are - and their owners appreciate their true nature so little. What a shame...

[AnimalLeftist]

Incredible that these people prouldy mention how long the horse has been doing it for, as if keeping the horse in discomfort for extended periods is a good thing. Horses are incredibly stoic, they have to be, as a prey species. Agreed on the tail-muscle cutting. People used to dock their EARS, fcs. Those weird old paintings don't show frost-bite. Can't we learn something, finally? An animal has every sense we have, and they feel pain. That they get used to it, is the saddest part of all.

[greatbigbubby]

oh my God, the ignorance of the southerners is just amazing.

[horsesaremylife31899]

I thought now they use padded ones that don't cut into the horses legs with chains ?

[Automedon2]

You evil bastards will feel the fires of hell - you are satan's kin on earth.

[littleart5]

i love twh. BUT NOT when they areTREATED THIS WAY! I would have a twh gait naturally and not enhance them at all. this makes me so mad. People just don't give a damn about what the horse feels. They have feelings too. I know a sweet twh mare. and she has a nice gait without that crap! WTH!

[tosavealife1966]

People wearing all that crap wouldnt change nuthing- handcuffs and anklebracelets in their own 8' x 10' "stall" could. This video is from awhile ago-imagine what people do today!

[TheBamafan7]

@tosavealife1966 i will tell you what they do today......none of what is mentioned in the video! now there are the few trainers that do cheat but the majority don't do any of that stuff anymore. the horses are more talented now and the trainers have figured out how to make them walk without soring them. the rules have changed alot and now it is down to a 6 oz. chain and you can only add a certain amount of wieght to the pads. there is flat shod horses with heavier shoes than padded horses!

[Bremerreitgirl]

schlimm !! Einfacch nur schrecklich tiere so zu qälen !!

[Calicat1994]

I agree, soring is a cruel disgusting act and people who do it or think it is ok should never be allowed to own horses... but we are not the only breed who do the tail cut thing, and I think that should be addressed as well, cause no horse should loose the ability to use its tail.

[ChaseTheMorningAU]

sick bastartds... lets chain the mand alter their legs and see how they go working like that!

[DeathKitty123456]

Why do they do it? To me it looks ugly anyway, a horse is beautiful when it moves naturally.

[rockymntgirl215]

i am against soring, but i am not against the padding and chains ! i would never hurt my horses tho!

[EveryonesQT]

Rednecks.....

[CountryPlayList]

@EveryonesQT how are they rednecks? these are cruel uncaring people who do not care about their horses feet, legs or bones, they are not rednecks! how do you get rednecks out of this video?

[activist405]

How could anyone believe that this is not abuse? Would these same people be willing to do any of this to themselves? They wouldn't, of course. Proof that they too believe it is painful and abusive.

[hldanis]

i can't believe that some of these people say that this stuff doesn't hurt the horses. that horse that she was inspecting didn't flinch sure but his hooves were way too long to begin with. even before they put the blocks on. i can't even imagine the ampount of strain that those horses joints have to go through. isn't their natural gait enough. i see no joy in watching a horse do that awkward gait when they have such a nice and pretty NATURAL step.

[Calicat1994]

@hldanis I agree with what you have said, but just so you know natural flat shod walkers should have a longer front hoof than many other breeds, to accomodate their natural angles with are usually different than in stock horses or warmbloods.

[vandykerp]

This type of industry that allows this treatment to the horse does not love the horse but money and fame!

[kypiggy]

the FEDS are cracking down on this in KY. Yeah! When we see TW at shows and the FEDS show up, these assholes scatter like the rats they are!

[mpacocapm]

Isn't it about time your cultural notion of "sport" evolved... and you with it?

Animals suffer for your need to be competative, entertained or just simply distracted.

Is your pleasure really worth the price? Would YOU suffer what you inflict on them?

Doubt it!

Justify it however you want but consider this, animals behave with greater dignity than you... they don't hurt the living for pleasure.

[lokahi808]

ill put 3 pound chains on their balls to those who do this shit to horses

[msheadshaker]

@lokahi808 This is an awesome statement, keep up the good work.

[JazperTheEventer]

What they dont tell you in this video is there is now a way to do something to the back legs that has the same affect as traditional soring, the inspectors cant catch it either. There is also a spray they can make, to make the horse walk normal for inspection and show no pain, and wears off before they enter the show ring.

[chevygirl88]

This is disgusting. I don't understand why people are so willing to hurt and injure horses for the sake of a pitiful fad. I really hate seeing this kind of ignorance in the horse world.

[abbielovesoasis]

why would you whant a horse to look like tht anyway it looks stupid the natural way they walk with a slight lift is buetiful the natural way

[chri11ejonsson]

@abbielovesoasis I agree with you. These horses has natural beautiful gates.

Why mess that up?!

[COOKIESY11]

@swNapoleon16i ride english and western.both my appaloosa and my foundation quarter horse put their heads down when i ride western naturally ive never trained them to do that.its not always unnatural.i dont force them to do that.

[67Plasma]

Horror !

Poor animals and sick people !

[yeahbyme]

Another nasty abuse is breaking tails and using ginger under the tail

[swNapoleon16]

well the issue with the chains is if people will properly take care if their horses after shows that wouldnt be a big deal........ jus like after ive been riding in a leather bridle, and a chain curb chain i clean her face to KEEP this from happening... the people who have this issue with their horses DO NOT TAKE CARE IOF THEM! thats the only reason that happens

[swNapoleon16]

ok just a few things at 2:05 when they are talking about stubbling and falling do they not realize that EVERY horse does that??? and how come there is nothing about forcing western pleasure horses to have there heads lowederd into a unnatural position???

[swNapoleon16]

my QH doesnt even wear shoes and he still stumbles over himself in the arena.... my walker doesnt wear pads ethr and she has still fell with me on her... im jus saying ethr way... wether they have pads on, jus shoes, or barefoot... when a horse stumbles they all have the same risk of hurting themselves...

[swNapoleon16]

another thing is that horses are naturaly strong... have'ing them lift a few extra pounds is nothing to them..

and if we are going to argue that this is abuse i can go to every single horse show, every single breed and point out thigs rider do that is "abuse" and eventually we will be banned from doing our favorite sport!!

[whytemyst32]

@swNapoleon16 so using chemicals on their coronet bands/pasterns that burn whilst putting chains over that to induce "desired gait" is deemed ok by you? Of course every industy has their bad apples. That doesn't really make a point valid now does it. Those of us who do not wish to condone these practices will continue to fight them. You can keep turning your blind eye. Good day.

[swNapoleon16]

@whytemyst32 uhhhmmm whoa did i mention anything about chemicals on horses feet in the 4 comments i posted?? NO I DID NOT.... and for your information i DO NOT THINK IT IS OK! i do have a issue with the chemicals. and no i dont turn my blind eye because the reason i do not want to pad my horse is becuase i think the use of chemicals is wrong thank you very much! im just saying the people who freak out on this breed dont realize some of these things can happen to any breed of horse at any kind

[swNapoleon16]

@whytemyst32 of show.... so i do not believe pads and chains are right but some people make way to big of deals outta things.. why arent there any comments about the seizure lope western pleasure horses do??? why isnt there anything said about training them with SHACKELS so their feet stay close together?? huh?? and whats so happy and pleasure like about a horses face in the ground??

see people just hate on gaited breeds

[vampaubrey]

i have a friend whose mother owned a horse that had boots on like these and all the years that we have been been friend and went horse riding i never saw that horse trip or show signs of pain and the chain were only put on if the boots were off and they never put the chains on as tight as the people in this video...the chain on her horse were loose enough to put four fingers under

[swNapoleon16]

@vampaubrey yeah if people took care of their gaited horses like this..... their would not be as many problems with this breed

[breyercrazy1]

horse can trip this is making me PISSED I MEAN PISSED OFF

[swNapoleon16]

@breyercrazy1 any horse can trip.. if your going to be pissed you need to be pissed at ppl who jump 6 + feet, western pleasure people for forcing their horses head down low, need i go on???

[breyercrazy1]

@swNapoleon16 for your information i own tn walkers but they are not padded and i have a lite shod spotted filly and i am getting me a quarter horse

[breyercrazy1]

@swNapoleon16 and i can be pissed free country bye bye

[ECF76]

Disgusting! I had never even heard of tennessee walk before watching this - typical american ignorance - I agree shoot them all they are not even worth educating

[herewefly]

sniks!!! The last horse had SEVER swelling in his legs!!!!!!!!!!!!

[babylovelc]

disgusting

[BetaWolfRunner]

Why? This makes the horses look so stupid.

[vindicatorlegacy]

The Tennessee Walking Horse Association needs to implement a ban on these classes, and go back to natural born gaits. Getting rid of these class for this competition would be one vital step in the right direction. They should uphold the natural breed traits, not this cruelty. Appears that the almighty dollar is at the root of their cruelty. These horse shows should be banned, not monitored.

[Evalani22]

these people should be sored.. so they will KNOW how painful it is!

[focus9111]

Absolutely disgusting. People like that should be shot.

[msheadshaker]

Everything about a padded horse is repulsive. The pad should be outlawed let alone the different types of soring, chains, severe biting, broken tails, chemicals, and other inhumne torture devices these people use to get these animals to perform a hyperextended gait.

[zhivana]

soring is abuse, simple as that. I would never allow anybody to apply gasoline or mustard oil to my horses feet, and I would never let them put pads or chains on him either. why? because it would hurt him, and damage his future. a lot of TWH have "broken pasterns", the angle of their leg gets messed up because of stacks being applied from a young age when their bones are still fairly malleable. that means they are wrecked for future use or a chance for a new life without soring. its cruelty.

[Showjumper1011]

if this was abuse, or in any way hurting the horse, then i dont really think that it would do things like this for its rider. horses are very loyal and smart animals, so i think that if they were in pain, or being abused, something wouldve been done to stop this, and the horses themselves probably wouldnt be so pleasant to ride.

[zhivana]

haha you clearly don't own a horse if you're saying that! horses are domesticated and most will take orders from humans from respect- HOWEVER these horses are afraid of the humans who handle them. they obey out of fear because they know if they don't perform that they will get hurt. they only obey because they are scared and too sore to even try to fight.

[Showjumper1011]

basically the horses are jsut doing the spanish walk at faster gaits! thats not so bad! like, i dont get wat da big deal is people.... and no i dont own a horse im to poor...

[Showjumper1011]

besides.. wat would u know about a horse? if u had one you would have videos about it... you dont even have A video! i have been riding for like... idk.. since i was walking and i have owned like.. tons of horses. probably mroe than you ever had! right now cuz the economy is abd we cant afford one.. besides.. the gait is all natural.. its jsut putting the chains and heavy horseshoes thats wrong!

[TheSloneh]

Also, Tennessee Walkers have had plantation shoes and action devices on them since the breed was developed from the earlier gaited horses. I'm talking in the 1800's. They were bred for a quick and smooth way to get around the plantation, and also for a stylish way to get through town.

[TheSloneh]

Some of you need to educate yourselves before talking crap about enhancing the gaits. Pads aren't considered soring because they do not hurt the horse's feet. Now, gasoline poured on their feet is a different story. The pads, however, simply add weight onto their front legs to make them pick them up and shift weight to their hind end. Plantation shoes, chains, and even some keg and light shoes, do the same thing.

I know what I'm talking about. My whole family have bred RHs for years.

[fleur4198]

You guys keep on talking that pads are harmless, BUT DO NOT CARE TO LOOK DEEPLY INTO THE HOOF'S WORK>:(((((. Pads are changing the angles of coffin bones, thus disbalancing and changing the distribution of weight into the worst one. The joints get more work that they are supposed to have-> serious prolems in future, pain and discomfort now.

If the angles of hoofs are changing so dramatically and for so long, IT DOES CAUSE MOST SERIOUS PROBLEMS, GUYS!!!!>:((((.

[JazperTheEventer]

@fleur4198 not only that but they will put golf balls and other things in between the foot and pads to put painfull pressure on their sole.

[HarunaSahra]

I hear ya. I know a lotta fellow horse lovers like myself don't like the idea, but a lot of TWHs can develop that higher walk with lots of NON violent training. It's not as exaggerated as soring, but it still looks pretty. certain chains and padding ARE used for that, but it's not to the point where the horses are abused. it's kinda like if you have braces on your teeth. It's there to help you, not hurt you. it does leave you sore, but it's not bad for you.

[stickyfingers24]

thanks for spreading this, type links to the video in the comments every time you comment on a video

[rustyhowes]

These people are just a load of inbreds and shouls

d have the same done to them

[wrxhenry]

yes you are ...

[luvtowin]

QH Lover, NO, Try Appaloosas. I wonder where your horse will be going after his show days are over. Have you planned his retirement or will you just trade up to something fancier that makes you look better in the show ring than the old horse does. And the old show horse will go to...? and eventually end up..? Oh Yes, please do have a nice day.

[wrxhenry]

my oldest is at the house hes 30 he was padded for 15+ yrs .. n he still rides just as good as he did 28 yrs ago .. but now hes used for handicapped children .. so please do tell me where he will go ... and end up .. cause we just rode him tonight .. and gee ... my friends raise walkaloosas , which they even have 1 or 2 that they have padded .. and they also make great show horses !

[wrxhenry]

unless u train them as qh's .. which means you do the same to them as you do a qh ... and well .. im sure that you dont rack or walk yours .. therefore im sure you train them like qh's...

[luvtowin]

Apparently this MUST be bothering you since you feel the need to continuously defend this inhumane practice. There is obviously something to hide or you would have told me F U. If there's nothing to hide, then there should be nothing to vigorously defend either. I don't have to constantly defend what I do to my horse, which is treat her like a horse in her natural state and condition and appreciate her for what she is, even if her legs do go all over the place when she canters.

[wrxhenry]

im just tired of people like U who dont know a damn thing about the breed .. and try to preach BULLSHIT .. go be around a padded walking horse , go ride one ,and own one .. then you have an opinion that and a voice that counts , no matter if its good or bad , but if you have never had the horse then you base your "facts" on biased information ... a lots changed in the 26+ yrs ive been in the industry .. n its all for the better .. thats why i have to defend .

[LoneStarStables]

God, this pisses me off. poor things, I cant believe they have those huge shoes on them or what not one stumble their leg is sticking out sideways. :(

[luvtowin]

WRXHenry, I stand by what I said.! You are obviously a minority but I know what I have seen. However, when you have to put chains and other equipment on a horse to over exaggerate their gait is inhumane. Put that same horse out in a pasture and watch it move, I guarantee you that horse will not be flinging its knees up as high as it's chest, like they do in the show ring. You have a nice day!

[wrxhenry]

its funny .. no one seems to mind all the other breeds .. just this one .. that do the same if not worse .. but u are probably a qh lover .. and well i cant stand the draining blood and training methods of those horses .. that are also stalled instead of being turned out .. so have a nice day ... i know i will

[ponycobbler]

Well, I use Cut-Heal all the time on scratches and little dings, I didn't know it was a form of abuse. I thought it was a wound dressing.

I do like that one fellow sees a big difference in the past 10 years. I don't like this either, but you have to start somewhere.

I hear that early entries are way down back east, because if the inspecters are there, they don't lose the entry money, just go home or to another local show.

[luvtowin]

I'll tell you what, you don't want to know what happens to these show horses when their show days are over. They are so lame from all the abuse to their hooves and legs they can barely walk. This is sickening.

[wrxhenry]

bull shit .. my horse is 30 now .. and he was shown for 15+ yrs padded .. and well hes not lame .. many of the older horses still show in classic classes .. and well a classic horse is a horse over 15 .. so sorry but they arent lame

[minskeep]

@luvtowin Its sad. My friend had an ex show horse that was clearly sored when she bought him. He was about 10 years old at the time and very shy when it came to touching his legs. I imagine he was stewarted a lot during his career. Luckily the rest of his life was good for him. He was reduced to peg shoes and 2 gaited classes at the county fair once a year and trail rides throughout the years. He was extremely pacey which is why he was sored but he was such a good horse otherwise.

[FriesianFeathers]

This stuff makes me so MAD! I just wanna drive nails into these peoples EYES!! GOD I HATE THIS! Thanks for posting up. This will definitely let people know how bad this really is!

[HankGotShake]

Others also say we don't ride "correctly". Being as that they have never been on a true gaited horse, they may not think so. When a horse overstrides (padded or pleasure), it sucks their backends under their bodies, and the gravitational pull will push a person's body forward to keep balance. I can promise you they are talented riders. You cannot take the best AQHA riders and put them on a natural TWH and expect them NOT to lean forward. Trust me, I know. I've allowed locals to ride mine.

[HankGotShake]

Every one loves to claim this discipline is for rednecks. However, some of the most influential people & celebrities join in during shows. The founders of The Ritz-Carlton Hotels are own some of the best horses/studs in the world. It takes money & sence to do this. These horses are all over the world. Canada & Germany seem to love the TWH, just as I. It doesn't take a hillbilly to make a mistake. Now we're cleaning up our act. Less than 2% of TWHs are treated cruely. What about race horses? Hah.

[meischicha]

right on!!! Put mustard oil on their legs and put some chains see if they learn how to ride right. Freaken rednecks

[MaxiandSatin]

i own 3 tennessee walking horses and two are stacked

the stalks that i use weigh 5 oz each and my horses use 3 oz chain

some people arentt like us

but alll breeds have people that make the name bad

youu can take off my there shoes and see NO nails in there hoves

[fenrirsragnarok]

While I don't necessarily agree with stacking horses' hooves, I do show Morgans and know that light action chains (3 to 6 ounces) are great for training a horse to really pick up their feet. However, I HAVE seen people abuse that, which just makes me ill. If a horse I'm training can't stand the chains, I'll use leather bands instead.

[Kordan2500]

Poor horses. they need to put an end to this.

[trunfoII]

if you were the horse??????

[Leeordior]

i dont know what to say! really. i dont know! just shoot them. (the peoples)

[rackinbabygirl]

Not all hores get treated this way! So dont critisize them!!

[Oxymoron97]

F*CKN Hillbillies!

[cschrack]

Ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jefrma]

when that sharon said "they have less legproblems than any other breed" I had to laugh bigtime! xD

[Jefrma]

Since little one thing has troubled me; No matter what the subject is in a dogument, you always hear people with opposite views saying the doc. got it whole wrong or that the whole program was a lie. But I´ve seen so many this typed doguments and cant help thinking "they cant ALL have actors..??" It takes lots of guts, though, to accept you´ve been wrong with something that is about making an innocent animal get hurt. BUT I dont think ALL these people do such, not one bit!

[fleur4198]

Just WHAT FOR putting -, -, - when it's the truth what science is saying against such pure cruelty - "doing actions to animals and persons which are harmful and painful to them on purpose" ????? Put as many minuses you want and can, but horses PURELY MAIMED by all this will remain in your fault .

[SabinoPaintMare369]

omg my friend just told me about this abuse thing before i even watched this vid! stupid people! why would they hurt a horse just for stupid fashion and money???im pissed off right now!

[wrxhenry]

less than 2% use these shitty methods .. damn typos .. anywho ... dont think all us trainers use these methods because we dont .

[fleur4198]

...Have never seen only 2% using big shoes on hoofs...

[wrxhenry]

the pads and chains aren't what sores the horse ...

[fleur4198]

1- they together weight more than horse's legs are naturally supposed to have-> injuries and stretchngs to joints and muscules

2-they change the angle of horse's hoof bones->changing the directions of load and weight balance->serious discomfort->serious and live lasting injuries to legs and joints. Wrong positioning of hoofs and legs without these pads->injuries and extremely painful changes to leg bones positions+back and neck.

+Do NOT dare forget about the bit and its role and influence....

[wrxhenry]

and sorry but studies that vets did on the padded twh said that the pads and chains dont harm them , and well my oldest which will be 30 at the end of the month was padded for 15+ years and well hes never had any type of joint problem , and what about the bit ..?? sorry but twh's are suppose to be ridden with a light rein therefore very little pressure in the mouth at all if any

[fleur4198]

If the angle of the hoof bones is correct it is correct. If it's not and is changing, problems and discomfort for horse is unavoidable. Judge about nothing from horse's behaviour. They will keep kiding any signs of pain of discomfort as the oldest instinkt of victim tells them.

And as for bits, just don't say that longest levers on the bits do nothing.... And that to make such horse gallop on the show they jerk the bit up twice harder just for fun....

[Jefrma]

wrxhenry: are there videos of your walkers in net? I´d love to see how nonsored walker moves! :) I just tried checking are there any walkers registered here in finland but no luck =/

[fleur4198]

you can try to find, but be VERY attentive and see only horses without pads, only on natural hoofs with corect angles.

[fleur4198]

+all these ass-sitters put the saddle on that part of horse's back which is EXTREMELY easy to injure as there is no support of rider's weight by the special parts of back bones.

[wrxhenry]

sorry but the the saddle is in the correct position for the breed

[fleur4198]

back bones anatomy does not differ from breed to breed, especially in this place. For horse it will mean total differences in many other parts but it is not true and can not be.

One part of the back has ability of greater support or rider's weight thanks to its structure. the part following it does not.

So all rider's weight simply falls on the spine. Falls on nerves, affects spinal cord itself. +the "breed" standing with legs put too far in front and in rear - this fall is times stronger

[ponycobbler]

I was watching some other video about the subject and a 3 yr old was in pads and chains with green ointment, and they jumped all over it. No one bothered to figure out what the ointment was, Bickmores' Gall salve so there would be NO rubbing. Sheesh.

[fleur4198]

So what ?

[horsieylover]

What's with all the thumbs down? I mean come on, can't you people SEE what this is DOING to the horse? This IS just a horrible thing to do to your friend. Yes, friend, cause that's what your horse should be. I mean, this just makes me feel so sick. Poor horses.

[wrxhenry]

do you even know any thing about the breed ..?? do you help at the shows ..?? do you know that every horse sport has their bad trainers ..?? do you know that less than 2% of trainers even train with these shitty methods anymore ..??

[horsieylover]

Oh whatever. I know this is stuff shot in the 80's, I know this method isn't being used anymore. But to me, this is still disgusting.

[wrxhenry]

oh i agree soring is horrible .. but guess what , you dont have to sore a padded horse at all ... ive shown for 25+ years and ive never had to sore any of my padded horses .

[koikitten]

The method is still being used, and it's even tougher to detect now with new technology.

[wrxhenry]

wow .. you really haven't done your research have you ..? sorry but with the new methods sorry they aren't having any problems .. but well there are less twh's being sored .. ive read its down to less than 2% .

[HorseluvrEdwardluvr]

dose this really hurt them????

[QLombardoQ]

/watch?v=Ce_Xhnr0FTs

[RideAllWays]

This sickens me, as does horse racing, and "lesson" horses who are drugged. Why teach (or force) the horses things that are so unnatural? They aren't NATURAL for a reason!!!

[Lee11256]

This is TORTURE.

[asbsrbest]

I don't agree with soring at all, however, this video is really old based on the horse show venues (Pomona being recognizable to me - and those are OLD shots), the horse show fashions, and the fact that there are people interviewed who are long dead. The CNN video (Google) is from an expose done in 1986.

Soring still exists, no matter how much the WH crowd wants to deny it, but putting out a video like this that resurrects old information and makes it current isn't right either.

[boonect]

I love the fact the every year in the horse racing business they put down over 3500 horse a year around the world and it is never brought up. This video is so out of touch it makes me sick to my stomach to think how little people know and claim to be experts.

These horse live well into there 30's and live great. I have been going to shows for over 35 years and have never, I repeat never seen a horse hurt in the ring, and here they make it sound like every day they have to be put down.

[Mspring116]

i agree with this video. Wlking horse sport makes a horse look odd. just ride normally people.

[djxthexmonferno]

A friend of my grandmother's taught her horse to lift his feet without chains or pads. It CAN be done without all that artificial crap, it just takes patients.

[JoJocares67]

The gail is soooo unnatural that it looks really stuiped, like the people involved with these beautiful horses.

[TWHsatinTWH]

THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!! think before you say it. retard

[breezes011]

Honestly, this does not even look remotley attractive. Why hurt the horse to achieve a look. If someone wants a horse with a animated gait then get a horse with a natural exageratated gait like the Morgan or American Saddle Bred.

[hestiahomeschool]

My poor Walkers that I rescued have scarred coronets and the male has been foundered. He is now barefoot, and the farrier trims his hooves every five weeks to keep the cracks under control. At this point he is not ridden at all, and we are letting him heal. Since he is only nine, he can still have a good life. I shudder to think of what must have happened to my sweet boy.

[showhorsechick]

Most of these trainers are uneducated hicks and hillbillies and are so absolutely ignorant to anatomy and physiology. Why would anyone do this to an animal. WHAT A FUCKED UP BUNCH OF MONSTERS YOU ARE. Any TWH person who believes this is natural is absolutely delusionsal and obviously knows fuck all about horses.

[wrxhenry]

not all trainers are the same .. and well the twh anatomy was bred for pads now days .. and well less than 2% of trainers use these shitty methods .. and alot has changed since the effin 80's ...

[horsebackrider420]

yeah, i agree.

[dragoon650]

changing the movement or action of any animal simply for show is wrong! There is no way anyone in their right mind can look at these horses and say this is normal or not cruel. They are clearly in alot of discomfort and it's sad that people would abuse them just to get a high gait from them.

[aspenhillranch]

There are very few people in the midwest that even show padded horses,The Liteshod and PLantation Divisions are very popular..Bottom line people that see these horses see chains and the huge shoes and say what they think without knowing - about padded horses- research and ask people that own them, -the industry has been working very hard to clean up the mess of the small % of crappy trainers.Wellbred Horses and hardwork are being seen in the ring -judges are being held more to standards.

[petlover44]

wrxhenry, you´re definitely suffering "missing sense of wrong-doing". You keep saying you don´t do this things to your horses, but you side with those who do and defend them and their absusive practices instead of being thankful to get rid of some competitors. You seem not to have a real life because you spend all your time here, trolling around and fooling yourself

[wrxhenry]

i have said many times that there are shitty trainers. so please tell me how i side with them? and just because i do show padded twh's doesnt mean i am a bad person. nor does it mean i mistreat my horses, and im sorry i sit at the barn with my laptop, gee i guess im not allowed, and i dont troll i only watch certain videos, and wow, most is people i know or i have seen their horse perform in real life. and again the trainers that i know and hang around DO NOT MISTREAT THIER HORSES.

[bbbask]

founder, or laminitis as it is properly called, is an inflammation of the laminie inside th hoof wall. It is way more serious than cracked hooves. a foundered horse is one who was laminitic at one time and has permenant damage such as rotation of the coffin bone! research, tv people, research! well maybe they were just trying to use laymans terms but that was a complete inaccuracy!

[ponycobbler]

Amen! I was wondering where the heck they were getting all that INFO.

I'm sure there are foundered walkers, but this is NOT the biggest cause of laminitis.

[jsb400]

From Video:chains and stacks cause strained tendons, arthritic joints,bone dis-placement, and most commonly founder which cracks the hooves. Tail cutting is also stupid. Using chemicals is cruel, and driving nails and lead into those pads is evil! You don't like what I have to say, then don't read it.!

If you don't use such methods then you should not be offended.

[wrxhenry]

lmao .. this video is one sided from the 80's .. things have changed .. then again .. you may be stuck back in the 80's ...

[jsb400]

Just watching walking horses move with those boots on is disturbing. I don't see how any one can find that entertaining. Those pads are like high heels for horses. High heels are not nice to human feet what makes any one think they are even slightly good for an animal that weighs about 1000 lbs. It is stupid. You can NOT tell me that the horses are ok with it. Hence the stupid looking flicking movement.

[cowgal58]

Ya! Dont abuse the HOSS! lol

This is so creul!

[susanfromhauntspace]

hoss?  white trash. >:(

[AndreyaPolo]

aaaahhh... these thick, male, cahuvanistic redneck americans.... of course 8lb metal chains around your ankles don't hurt.... and of course 4" blocks on the hoof don't either...!! anyway, horses are owned by MAN and have NO FELINGS!! ...and anyway, these horses can be replaced... life s SOOO cheap.... yeah right ....

but will give you all one word of advice .... what comes around goes around......

[wrxhenry]

wtf ... there is no 8 lb of chain .. its limited to 6 ozs - from the usda .. and the pads dont hurt at all .... there has been studies done .. you do realize that right ... and well my oldest horse of 29 is still going strong .. and was padded pretty much all his life .. and well he has no problems .. unless you consider him bigging a big baby a problem ... Also .. THE USDA ISNT TRYING TO GET RID OF PADS AND CHAINS ...

[cowgal58]

This is about the SORING. Not just the chains, The cemicals and stuff that burns the horses legs!

[wrxhenry]

thats just it .. less than 2% of shitty trainers use the methods ...

[wrxhenry]

pads and chains dont harm the horse ....

[jsb400]

BULL CRAP!! Your lying and full of it! Oh I suppose your going to back the use of the nasty chemicals that burn the hell out of the horses also.

[jsb400]

that was to wrxhenry.

[wrxhenry]

wtf .. your full of bull shit .. NOT EVERY ONE USES SHITTY ASS METHODS TO TRAIN ... i know i sure dont .. and ive never had a problem with the usda .. and i never will .

[jsb400]

OH I touched a nerve. Well I don't care about that. Good for you, you don't use the method.

However, The boots and chains should still be banned once and for all. To all you Trolls who do support the methods go ahead give me the thumbs down negative points on the side. Your still guilty to!

[wrxhenry]

lmao .. some horses have to have those same pads to even have a normal life .. they are the same plastic pads that many farriers use to help horses with hoof problems ... and well im sorry for you but a 6 oz chain is lighter than a 12 oz coke can .. and well the usda makes the rules and we follow the rules .. not to mention the twh isnt the only breed to use pads and chains .. but i dont see you on the the other breeds videos ... but yet they too use the same pads and chains

[jsb400]

Oh please jerk. There is a big difference in corrective shoeing and these damn hijacked pads used on these horses in the ring.

You don't know what the heck I have commented on, unless your following me around like a nice troll.

Chains and cruel training methods should be banned in all equine related sports. So shut up. Cruelty supporter.

[wrxhenry]

yes im a jerk .. all 37 years of this woman .. lmao cruelty supporter ... no.. but think whatever you want .. and i dont have to follow you around i know how one tracked people like you are .. and internet troll .. that i am not since i dont go around bashing videos or horses .. even if i dont agree with them .

[EQUiiLUVR]

Farriers that use them to help horses are dumb asses that have no idea what they are doing.

[wrxhenry]

they know what they are doing or they shouldnt be shoeing a padded horse .

[wrxhenry]

and a nerve .. no .. just tired of stupid people like you who dont know jack shit about something .. but act like you do ..

[no1horselover]

bloody animal abusers and exploiters.

[wrxhenry]

dear god .. pads and chains are legal .. there was a study done on them that proved they DID NOT harm the horse .

[irrationalvelvet]

Listen for the phrase, "paid by the industry". Like the old ad campaign touting pork as "the other white meat" - those ads were also paid for by an industry. In this video, the show Vets are PAID to ensure that their industry prevails. Would you buy a used car from one of them?

[jsb400]

Those horrid boots and chains should be BANNED!!! Get them off the horses!!!!!!!!

[cowgal58]

AGREED