this is very cheap to make. You can use same acid bath for many synthesis. 100ml 80% hno3 and 100ml 98% h2so4 can easy give you +100 grams of this good stuff^^
@love187punk lol nobody did but your pretty stupid so i thought i would let you know, and your comment jus makes you look even more retarded does'nt it..
@chemistryplan Kun det basale. Har travlt med et ingeniørstudie ;)
RDX forsøget var faktisk med en salpeter- og svovlsyre blanding, for at undersøge hvorvidt det overhovedet var muligt at få kvantificerbare mængder ud af det. Det var det. Men, ikke overraskende, meget lavt udbytte
mix 30 mL of sulfuric acid with 25 grams of potassium nitrate do it in small amounts at a time with lots of stirring and keep it in an ice bath through the whole procedure then put about 4 cotton balls in make sure they are all submerged in the mixture and let it sit for about 30 mins then wash with water alot and put it in a mixture of water and baking soda and keep washing it until it doesnt bubble when you put baking soda on it
ive heard that ammonium nitrate should be alot better for nitration.. i didnt keep my nitration cooled down? :S and the cotton always just sucks up all the liquid. ill try to use tiny amounts of cellulose then.. (: and well sounds like youre pretty much interested in also chemistry (pyro too maybe?) but i know how to make it.. just failed a few times.. :/
great.. i think that its because you use less and it wont make the liquid thicker? (= anyways do you know if i gotta use a specific amount of ammonium nitrate in grams for sulfuric acid? i think the h2so4 just kept swallowing ammonium nitrate.. :S
but its right that its possible to dissolve more ammonium nitrate into the sulfuric acid than you need for nitration? also ill try to boil down about 5 mL next time to very little to get maximum concentration.. (:
i might have to try using some ammonium nitrate next time thanks for the idea i wasnt sure if it would work better or not and im gonna let it sit over night this time to get it even better lol
EZ2make. Take cotton, or cotton t-shirt, socks, wet 1st in 70% HNO3. Then soak in 1:2 HNO3/H2SO4. Remove, wash in water, then carbonate. Dry in air. Store away from heat and light. Looks, smells, tastes just like cotton - u cant tell! But it will dissolve in organic solvents, cotton does not. Take this t-shirt anywhere now. when the time comes, stuff it into a pipe .............
theyre too stupid to think of it. i was stupid enuf to actually put it on and wear it for a few minutes, thought it was real cool. but it was high school, and i was dumb then.
Yes, great idea, but I've nitrated my old socks recently and they just crumbled... You won't be able to wear that shirt anymore but I like the idea :P
a pipe? xD why a pipe q: pretty sick idea about just suddenly making your t-shirt .. like be gone in a few seconds q: but i guess best idea is NOT to wear it when burning it :D
i.. ow ya xD could act as a good fuel for a little canon or something.. ^^ actually looking at the comments below i really wanna nitrate some cotton.. sounds like its alot to use concentrated H2SO4 than h2so4/hno3 (: and i got ammonium nitrate :D but in airports, they will easily detect something nitrated (nitro stuff.. nitroglycerine, nitrocellulose.. i think they got machines to scan for that stuff.. thats why they can get TATP and HMTD through airports (; )
you know why they wont also let you carry liquids in some airports? mixing pure ethanol with high concentration hydrogen peroxide makes you a VERY STRONG and unsensitive high explosive. It doesnt form organic peroxides.
MEKP?? thats a peroxide.. unstable.. hehehehhe i can get 93% ethanol and i still have some 35% H2O2 (: ow damn no organic peroxides :S what does it form?
It doesnt form MEKP. It forms a sprengel explosive.... mixture of oxidizer (H2O2) and fuel (ethanol) like anfo.... Only certain organic substances can form organic peroxides.
MEKP: it haves an aldehide group.
hexamine: it makes a nitramine bound of O-N. with citric acid.
it is not necesary to add adsorbent since it is insensitive. Rigth radios are 90:10 of 80%hydrogen peroxide and 96%ethanol. it requieres blasting cap, wich in turns may not pass the airport... maybe if you use organic peroxide then it will be completly undetectable hahaha
80% O_O wouw... i think ive seen 80% h2o2 once before.. oxidizing leather to burn.. but the reason it would be a good idea with a absorbent is because.. then its not a liquid but solid explosive (:
i know it will decompose.. :/ but KNO3 is really easy to get.. now i just need some goddamn sulfur :/ its possible to get elemental sulfur out of sulfur salts! i think a guy called alchemicalscience or something like that did it.. i would just like to know if its possible to do with H2SO4.. kinda should be.. trust me you cant just buy it in denmark..
Yellow Powder, KNO3, Sulfur, K2CO3.. (: ya i said it will decompose if you boil it.. :/ but its not even possible to get 30% h2o2 anymore.. hope they still sell it at the drug store o.o!!! otherwise it will be 12% and that will take alot longer time to crystallize.. :(
well the thing you can do in denmark then, is to order from a site, pay with bank transfering money, and use a post office box to receive the package and hide it somewhere (: im nearly sure ill jizz to death just by openiing the package :D
ya they sure are.. i would say ive seen kids thats 1 year old being more grown up than those fuckers o.O lol they dont know theyre sitting with a secondary explosive XD
so does that guy ship out of denmark and whats his website lol also i successfully made some nitrocellulose last night its a little better than this guys but i let mine sit for 45 minutes
I don't find making nitrocellulose easy. Failed 3 times and the 4th time worked, but not as highly nitrated as yours :( I did manage to make good 2,4,6-trinitrophenol from aspirin, while that is less easy :S
There ought to be some videos around that show you how to make it.
The reaction's quite simple, but it requires some strong acids, so don't do it unless you know how to handle them.
You need a mixture of roughly 70% sulfuric acid and 30% nitric acid (not sure about the exact composition)
Take a piece of coton, drench it well in the mixture and let it react for something like 45 minutes. Then remove the acid with water and a base and dry it well.
Oh, before I forget it, add the reagents togheter SLOWLY! Especialy the base. You do NOT want this to go out of controll, and adding the reagents togheter carelessly could generate enough heat to cause a spontanious combustion.
Its kind of a pain in the ass to make (especially if you don't want the FBI at your door wondering why you're mkaing nitro-anything). Requires sulfuric acid(H2SO4) and Nitric acid (HNO3). Nitric acid has to be made with a a nitrate salt such as KNO3 and sulfuric acid using a retort, or distillation apparatus.
I've made it before to that quality. I know a guy who made some once without checking his ratios and doing proper measurements and he put it on his hand and it burnt at about the rate of black powder instead. He had a nasty burn but that was years ago now.
ping pong balls may be made of cellulose nitarte butit'simpure and not made properly to be explosive to make the Gun cotton then you have to actually dip cotton in nitric and sulfuric acid for around two minutes and then wash it and let it dry.
but wait, a nitrate salt and hydrochloric acid would produce the NOCl ion. which could replace the OH in the cellulose, but maybe with a nitrosamine...
nitrate salt in H2SO4 is best way - produces concentrated active NO2+ agent. If you just use nitric acid you have a lot of excess water which means more H2SO4 is needed.
all i know is that it worked but it did not burn very fast but if you tweek it a little it will probaly work better.and it was smoke less and a small amount of ash.
That sounds highly unlikely. With that mixture you would have royal water to some extend, and various other toxic and gaseous compounds. You lack the dehydrating agent completely
lead batteries/car battery acid, but you have to filter out the alkali metals. Buying it is easier.
Speaking of buying, when you used your nitric acid did you buy it as lab or ACS reagent grade. If i can't get it very cheap I will just use KNO3 and H2SO4.
H2SO4 and XNO3 form HNO3. I tried diferend nitrate salts, I was getting the best results with the alkali-metal nitrate salts like sodium and potassium nitrate, ammonium nitrate doesn't work at all. I suspect the ammonium ion works reather like a weak acid. So only a small percentage is reacted to hydrogen nitrate.
You're absolutely right, this cotton has been treated with acids, so that the cotton has recieved oxygen and nitrogen in it's structure, on a molecular level. Thereby it burns rapidly and it is actually also explosive. It is called guncotton or nitrocellulose. Normal clean cotton is just cellulose
Thanks for your awnser ! I tryed the normal procedure ( mix 60% nitric acid and 40% sulfuric acid ) I put paper and cotton, they both turns yellow because of the nitrocellulose but after I cannot dry them ! I tryed with hairdryer and everything but it won't dry completely, I tryed to burn it and it just burn normally.... Do you have an Idea what to do ? Thanks. ( my sulfuric acid is some 32 degrees )
Thanks for your awnser, I used sodium hydrogen carbonate to neutralise it the it dry normally, but when I burn the paper/cotton it just burn normally, nothing special ! and the paper/cotton is very yellow, could it be that my nitric and sulfuric are not concentred enough ?
Right, okay you need to leave cellulose in nitration for a good 24 hours for maximum nitration, that allows the nitronium ions to react with the hydroxyl group even with the lowest kinetic energy. Your sulphuric should be around 95% and above, and your nitric importantly needs to be a good 70% concentrated, anymore and you'll saturate the solution with it, and it'll become the stronger acid by mass. Neutralisation is a thorough process - test by litmus, and then wash with water to remove carb.
Cellulose (C6H7(OH)3O) is nitrated, the hydroxyl group (-OH-) is replased by an nitrate group (-ONO2-). Cellulose nitrate is the proper name for nitrocellose. The reaction takes place in to a special mixture of acids of nitric acid and sulfuric acid (HONO2/H2SO4) Nitric acid could be prepared by disolving potassium nitrate in sulfuric acid, but this is not for beginners in chemistry....
First of you will have to clarify if you mean % by weight or volume. I expect you mean volume :P
If you have such a mixture, in theory, it will nitrate the same amount of cotton even better(more complete) since the sulphuric acid is the catalyst. So you will end up with more powerful guncotton. But I think the excess sulphuric acid will just be a waste, because cotton is quite easy "nitrateable". A 50/50 mixture by volume would probably leave no noticeable difference from the 67/33
No, hydrochloric acid and KNO3 will make some HNO3 yes, but this will in turn react with the HCl and you will have royal water, and nitrosyl chloride and various other compounds in it. Very nasty :P
I just found some shower cleaner that contains Oxalic & Sulfamic acids, Do you think this might work? (im no good at determining how chemicals react with each other)
No, it will not work. The nitric acid is the reactant which nitrates the cellulose. The sulphuric acid is the dehydrant, which removes the water caused by the reaction, thus catalyzing it. There is basically no alternatives(for "normal" household experiments)
I have never heard of a nitration using phosphorouspentoxide as the dehydrating agent to be honest. Do you have a more specific procedure? I would suspect it to be very hard to work with. There might be a chance that it will decompose the nitric acid into dinitrogen pentoxide.
And furthermore complete nitration of cellulose is actually possible using only the acids. I would estimate my sample here to be around 80-90% nitrated.
Well, it does develop a lot of heat, but only briefly. So you barely feel the heat when doing this. Unless the cotton is wet, or bad quality :P then it hurts
Sounds like you've seen some pretty hardcore NC :P Anyway, the factors that determine the speed counts a lot. Like how loose the NC is packed and so on. But yeh I guess you're right, commercial top quality NC would most likely be a bit faster
Please take a look at the comments halfway down this page, before asking. You questions are already answered a couple times:
"I only cooled the acidmix to 5 degrees celsius, prior to the actual nitration.
The temperature doesn't rise that much, unless you are dealing with big quantities.
The goal is to keep it around 20 degrees approx. to allow a fast and efficient nitration, but at the same time make sure it doesn't rise too much - or it will get yellowish, and the acids will release fumes"
nice
sprengmeisterN 11 months ago
nice
sprengmeisterN 11 months ago
0:08 =MAGIC i think thats so the magic man does!
Knarcus445 1 year ago
this is very cheap to make. You can use same acid bath for many synthesis. 100ml 80% hno3 and 100ml 98% h2so4 can easy give you +100 grams of this good stuff^^
tuipale 1 year ago
@tuipale yes, almost every organic chemical you pour in this mix will form some explosive, like:
glycerine-->nitroglycerine
cellulose-->nitrocellulose
toluene-->tnt
phenol-->tnp
etc. etc.
guidocreusen 10 months ago
and pooof, YOUR GAY!
SADFACE1000 1 year ago
could you make a video in which you let it explode in stead if deflagrate?
TheMarshallFan 1 year ago
suddenly acetoneperoxide -nitracellulose appears!!
Fingers and lighter I choose you!
BAAAM detonation achieved!!!
no more fingers
its not very effective.
arkfussion 1 year ago
how do you make!!!
randomDizy 1 year ago
That is really good quality
ArtistBlade1972 1 year ago
its flash cotton
CoNtaCTjUGgLer10 1 year ago
aka gun cotton
sashagirls 1 year ago
you have no idea how strong this nitroglycerin, if you a small cup full of it, you can take out a whole block with it
love187punk 1 year ago
@love187punk Well, not really. And this isn't nitroglycerin
Uberownager 1 year ago 25
@Uberownager well, not really, and its just a lumbar gunpowder which made mixing it with nitroglycerin
love187punk 1 year ago
@love187punk lol its gun cotton you tard that what nitrocellulose is, read the fkin video title properly before making a retarded comment like that
jakmeoff1 1 year ago
@jakmeoff1 hey couch-slug FuckFace, who asked for your opinion ?
love187punk 1 year ago
@love187punk lol nobody did but your pretty stupid so i thought i would let you know, and your comment jus makes you look even more retarded does'nt it..
jakmeoff1 1 year ago
@jakmeoff1 no, it just make me feel sorry that this YouTube shit is what separate me from you
love187punk 1 year ago
@love187punk Please tell me you skipped chem.
venomx2 1 year ago
@love187punk LOL nitroglycerin???? WHERE?!
starshock01 1 year ago
@starshock01 if you could get THAT it would be fun hehe
toepsaspore 1 year ago
@love187punk no thats called a nuke not angry cotton wool.
mrdojob 1 year ago
yea, not seeing a block. like grenade but with no strategic shrapnel. pretty such they use this stuff in flash bangs.
Pimpmastahanhduece 1 year ago
it can be used as an explosive?
chilidress 1 year ago
I like chemical experiments to learn how nature works !! thanks a lot for sharing...grazieee
domyaska 1 year ago
how did you make that?
nandos5566778899 1 year ago
Did you stick your fingers up your ass?
Reqrezentin 1 year ago
the yellow finger! awesome.
flach99 1 year ago
finally, someone has made decent NC
fmeriqui 1 year ago 9
was this cotton?
ReflexRx 1 year ago
Yes, it was made from cotton, cotton is pure cellulose!
PSYCO000000 1 year ago
@Uberownager
Hvad? Mener du personal message
chemistryplan 1 year ago
@Uberownager
Ok men laver du stadigvæk sådan noget?. Og da du skulle lave RDX distilerede du ikke bare 65% eller hvad?
chemistryplan 1 year ago
@chemistryplan Kun det basale. Har travlt med et ingeniørstudie ;)
RDX forsøget var faktisk med en salpeter- og svovlsyre blanding, for at undersøge hvorvidt det overhovedet var muligt at få kvantificerbare mængder ud af det. Det var det. Men, ikke overraskende, meget lavt udbytte
Uberownager 1 year ago
where do you get it?
tTorbify 2 years ago
search flash cotton on google or you can make it
22matt19 2 years ago
how to make this?
redbullstef 2 years ago
mix 30 mL of sulfuric acid with 25 grams of potassium nitrate do it in small amounts at a time with lots of stirring and keep it in an ice bath through the whole procedure then put about 4 cotton balls in make sure they are all submerged in the mixture and let it sit for about 30 mins then wash with water alot and put it in a mixture of water and baking soda and keep washing it until it doesnt bubble when you put baking soda on it
22matt19 2 years ago
ive heard that ammonium nitrate should be alot better for nitration.. i didnt keep my nitration cooled down? :S and the cotton always just sucks up all the liquid. ill try to use tiny amounts of cellulose then.. (: and well sounds like youre pretty much interested in also chemistry (pyro too maybe?) but i know how to make it.. just failed a few times.. :/
antiswattt2 2 years ago
@antiswattt2 "ive heard that ammonium nitrate should be alot better for nitration" This is true ;)
Uberownager 2 years ago
great.. i think that its because you use less and it wont make the liquid thicker? (= anyways do you know if i gotta use a specific amount of ammonium nitrate in grams for sulfuric acid? i think the h2so4 just kept swallowing ammonium nitrate.. :S
antiswattt2 2 years ago
@antiswattt2 Yes exactly. The amount of ammonium nitrate (80g/mol) is smaller than potassium nitrate (110g/mol).
So to end up with 1 part sulfuric to 1 part nitric acid, you will need 80 grams of ammonium nitrate to 200 grams of sulfuric acid (110mL).
Uberownager 2 years ago
but its right that its possible to dissolve more ammonium nitrate into the sulfuric acid than you need for nitration? also ill try to boil down about 5 mL next time to very little to get maximum concentration.. (:
antiswattt2 2 years ago
i might have to try using some ammonium nitrate next time thanks for the idea i wasnt sure if it would work better or not and im gonna let it sit over night this time to get it even better lol
22matt19 2 years ago
EZ2make. Take cotton, or cotton t-shirt, socks, wet 1st in 70% HNO3. Then soak in 1:2 HNO3/H2SO4. Remove, wash in water, then carbonate. Dry in air. Store away from heat and light. Looks, smells, tastes just like cotton - u cant tell! But it will dissolve in organic solvents, cotton does not. Take this t-shirt anywhere now. when the time comes, stuff it into a pipe .............
FractAlkemist 2 years ago
thats one weird idea there.... have any terrorist tried that?
only problem would be someone smoking, passes by and accidentaly touches your shirt with the ciggarret. instantly naked.
adriiPortillo 2 years ago
theyre too stupid to think of it. i was stupid enuf to actually put it on and wear it for a few minutes, thought it was real cool. but it was high school, and i was dumb then.
FractAlkemist 2 years ago
well in airports (in denmark) they have scanners for nitro things.. (nitrated stuff.. like ETN or PETN or nitroglycerine..)
antiswattt2 2 years ago
Yes, great idea, but I've nitrated my old socks recently and they just crumbled... You won't be able to wear that shirt anymore but I like the idea :P
CarnalDiafragma 2 years ago
a pipe? xD why a pipe q: pretty sick idea about just suddenly making your t-shirt .. like be gone in a few seconds q: but i guess best idea is NOT to wear it when burning it :D
antiswattt2 2 years ago
that make it go BOOM!
FractAlkemist 2 years ago
i.. ow ya xD could act as a good fuel for a little canon or something.. ^^ actually looking at the comments below i really wanna nitrate some cotton.. sounds like its alot to use concentrated H2SO4 than h2so4/hno3 (: and i got ammonium nitrate :D but in airports, they will easily detect something nitrated (nitro stuff.. nitroglycerine, nitrocellulose.. i think they got machines to scan for that stuff.. thats why they can get TATP and HMTD through airports (; )
antiswattt2 2 years ago
you know why they wont also let you carry liquids in some airports? mixing pure ethanol with high concentration hydrogen peroxide makes you a VERY STRONG and unsensitive high explosive. It doesnt form organic peroxides.
adriiPortillo 2 years ago
MEKP?? thats a peroxide.. unstable.. hehehehhe i can get 93% ethanol and i still have some 35% H2O2 (: ow damn no organic peroxides :S what does it form?
antiswattt2 2 years ago
It doesnt form MEKP. It forms a sprengel explosive.... mixture of oxidizer (H2O2) and fuel (ethanol) like anfo.... Only certain organic substances can form organic peroxides.
MEKP: it haves an aldehide group.
hexamine: it makes a nitramine bound of O-N. with citric acid.
adriiPortillo 2 years ago
oh so its a liquid secondary you get ^^ hm.. you could add an absorbent and then use it like some kinda dynamite if you found the right ratios :D
antiswattt2 2 years ago
it is not necesary to add adsorbent since it is insensitive. Rigth radios are 90:10 of 80%hydrogen peroxide and 96%ethanol. it requieres blasting cap, wich in turns may not pass the airport... maybe if you use organic peroxide then it will be completly undetectable hahaha
adriiPortillo 2 years ago
80% O_O wouw... i think ive seen 80% h2o2 once before.. oxidizing leather to burn.. but the reason it would be a good idea with a absorbent is because.. then its not a liquid but solid explosive (:
antiswattt2 2 years ago
it can be done... but it is quite complicated. You cant just boil off excess water.
adriiPortillo 2 years ago
i know it will decompose.. :/ but KNO3 is really easy to get.. now i just need some goddamn sulfur :/ its possible to get elemental sulfur out of sulfur salts! i think a guy called alchemicalscience or something like that did it.. i would just like to know if its possible to do with H2SO4.. kinda should be.. trust me you cant just buy it in denmark..
antiswattt2 2 years ago
ehhh what are you talking about.... i was talking that you cant just boil 30% H2O2 to 80%.
adriiPortillo 2 years ago
Yellow Powder, KNO3, Sulfur, K2CO3.. (: ya i said it will decompose if you boil it.. :/ but its not even possible to get 30% h2o2 anymore.. hope they still sell it at the drug store o.o!!! otherwise it will be 12% and that will take alot longer time to crystallize.. :(
antiswattt2 2 years ago
i can get sulfur at my local drugstore and i live in a hick town it comes in either 2 kg bags or a 500 gram container
22matt19 2 years ago
sure you can but youre not living in denmark.. im sure that you could buy kilos of black powder if you went to a gun store?
antiswattt2 2 years ago
@antiswattt2 o you live in denmark ya that could be a problem lol but nope dont have a gun shop for about 200 miles
22matt19 2 years ago
well the thing you can do in denmark then, is to order from a site, pay with bank transfering money, and use a post office box to receive the package and hide it somewhere (: im nearly sure ill jizz to death just by openiing the package :D
antiswattt2 2 years ago
go for it use a money order though there safer
22matt19 2 years ago
money order :S ill use bank transfer, as thats the only way i can do and thats the only way the guy accepts money
antiswattt2 2 years ago
o sweet lol
22matt19 2 years ago
yap.. fits perfect.. lol have you seen ''Gun Cotton'' its in related videos.. by obriguy.. man those guys are retarded o.o they sure bought it
antiswattt2 2 years ago
@antiswattt2 wow they should not be aloud to buy that shit lol there retards
22matt19 2 years ago
ya they sure are.. i would say ive seen kids thats 1 year old being more grown up than those fuckers o.O lol they dont know theyre sitting with a secondary explosive XD
antiswattt2 2 years ago
so does that guy ship out of denmark and whats his website lol also i successfully made some nitrocellulose last night its a little better than this guys but i let mine sit for 45 minutes
22matt19 2 years ago
MORE! MOOORE!!!!
3DPlanets 2 years ago
I don't find making nitrocellulose easy. Failed 3 times and the 4th time worked, but not as highly nitrated as yours :( I did manage to make good 2,4,6-trinitrophenol from aspirin, while that is less easy :S
CarnalDiafragma 2 years ago
What was your nitrating agents?
Uberownager 2 years ago
Analytical grade 98% sulphuric acid, but the problem was my nitric acid, at only 53%
CarnalDiafragma 2 years ago
you only need to add more sulphuric acid. it works.
adriiPortillo 2 years ago
I also did some nitration some time ago, I use 65%Nitric, 98%Sulfuric.
Which method did you adopt, and what duration, temperature of nitration did you use?
Cforchemistry 2 years ago
dats not nitrocellulose dats flash cotton
hhmm89 2 years ago
We can't spell FAILURE without U
Uberownager 2 years ago
lol
murdoch2486 2 years ago
Flash Cotton is Nitrocellulose
joshgibbs69 2 years ago
you sir, are the definition of supidity.
guitar23man23 2 years ago
no fun man
kexxun56 2 years ago
awhhh fucking nitrate stains never come off D: real drag.
i like the cotton! mine doesnt burn that fast D: but its good enough for APNC
wattapassa 2 years ago
nice stuff dude how long was this nitrating?
minkify 2 years ago
Thanks. Approximately 15 minutes
Uberownager 2 years ago
looks like flash cotton
annonymousXD 2 years ago
Same thing, different name
Uberownager 2 years ago
haha you've nitrated your fingers
CarnalDiafragma 2 years ago 11
Yea, lol! :D
88GetInTheOven88 2 years ago
Haha you're racist, if I believe yout screenname. Thats funny :P
CarnalDiafragma 2 years ago
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TylerLeeFigueroa 2 years ago
There ought to be some videos around that show you how to make it.
The reaction's quite simple, but it requires some strong acids, so don't do it unless you know how to handle them.
You need a mixture of roughly 70% sulfuric acid and 30% nitric acid (not sure about the exact composition)
Take a piece of coton, drench it well in the mixture and let it react for something like 45 minutes. Then remove the acid with water and a base and dry it well.
When it's completely dry, you have gun coton.
Buionics 2 years ago
Oh, before I forget it, add the reagents togheter SLOWLY! Especialy the base. You do NOT want this to go out of controll, and adding the reagents togheter carelessly could generate enough heat to cause a spontanious combustion.
Buionics 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAH no
klutz22 2 years ago
Please tell me how to make it! I really wanna try some
pyr0maniakid 2 years ago
Its kind of a pain in the ass to make (especially if you don't want the FBI at your door wondering why you're mkaing nitro-anything). Requires sulfuric acid(H2SO4) and Nitric acid (HNO3). Nitric acid has to be made with a a nitrate salt such as KNO3 and sulfuric acid using a retort, or distillation apparatus.
lucifer79078 2 years ago
lol how lucky am i
i found one of those 10 gallon buckets with 70 % sulfuric acid in it
u can also get it from car batterys
drumbeg12345 2 years ago
It's actually extremely easy to make.
donnelrj01 2 years ago
given you have the materials to make it, yes. The hardest to acquire being Nitric Acid, you generally have to make your own.
lucifer79078 2 years ago
You can make nitric acid quite easily yes, but the vast majority of people simply buy it. It's out there...
donnelrj01 2 years ago
at 0:09 u can see that his wrist got fire
stuffmajig 2 years ago
thats how ninjas disapear :O
xMADvDOGx 2 years ago 12
lol, it turned your fingers orange.
NamesROverated 2 years ago
is that gun cotton?
deaftodd 2 years ago 2
yes
mitchelitis12 2 years ago
very nice!!! how did u do it? can u write the "recepie" of this? thanks
95vic95 2 years ago
I've made it before to that quality. I know a guy who made some once without checking his ratios and doing proper measurements and he put it on his hand and it burnt at about the rate of black powder instead. He had a nasty burn but that was years ago now.
tomandjj 3 years ago
stop spreading lies over youtube and go learn about esterification and how, in this case, it affects the properties of nitrocellulose.
tomandjj 3 years ago
ping pong balls may be made of cellulose nitarte butit'simpure and not made properly to be explosive to make the Gun cotton then you have to actually dip cotton in nitric and sulfuric acid for around two minutes and then wash it and let it dry.
tomandjj 3 years ago
how is that posible?
killerzax1 3 years ago
Why the fuck would you make tear gas?
o0Dreamlike0o 3 years ago
Yeah, everyone likes certain things..
o0Dreamlike0o 3 years ago
but wait, a nitrate salt and hydrochloric acid would produce the NOCl ion. which could replace the OH in the cellulose, but maybe with a nitrosamine...
wattapassa 2 years ago
nitrate salt in H2SO4 is best way - produces concentrated active NO2+ agent. If you just use nitric acid you have a lot of excess water which means more H2SO4 is needed.
FractAlkemist 2 years ago
@FractAlkemist yep, specially ammonium nitrate..
adriiPortillo 2 years ago
where did you get HNO3 -.- .... i cant get it anywhere
killerzax1 3 years ago
I have no idea
Uberownager 3 years ago
all i know is that it worked but it did not burn very fast but if you tweek it a little it will probaly work better.and it was smoke less and a small amount of ash.
tntskull 3 years ago
i tryed it with kno3/hcl and it worked not fast but it definetly worked.
tntskull 3 years ago
That sounds highly unlikely. With that mixture you would have royal water to some extend, and various other toxic and gaseous compounds. You lack the dehydrating agent completely
Uberownager 3 years ago
will ammoniumnitrate work ?
cinijast 3 years ago
Indeed
Uberownager 3 years ago
Haha, look at his fingers...
be careful, HNO3 is not very nice to be in contact with.
johancs7 3 years ago
Wait, so you mix nitric acid with Ammonium nitrate(Or potassium nitrate) And soak a cotton ball in it and you get nitrocellulose?
marine12320 3 years ago
No, sulphuric acid and a nitrate salt. And cotton
Uberownager 3 years ago
do you know how i can get sulphuric acid? I only have HNO3
marine12320 3 years ago
No, I don't know where you can get sulphuric acid
Uberownager 3 years ago
lead batteries/car battery acid, but you have to filter out the alkali metals. Buying it is easier.
Speaking of buying, when you used your nitric acid did you buy it as lab or ACS reagent grade. If i can't get it very cheap I will just use KNO3 and H2SO4.
namestakin 3 years ago
sulphuric acid is found in CAR BATTERIES
(hint hint)
oishi222 3 years ago
but in the description u said it was made with HNO3(which is nitric acid)
marine12320 3 years ago
H2SO4 and XNO3 form HNO3. I tried diferend nitrate salts, I was getting the best results with the alkali-metal nitrate salts like sodium and potassium nitrate, ammonium nitrate doesn't work at all. I suspect the ammonium ion works reather like a weak acid. So only a small percentage is reacted to hydrogen nitrate.
potassiumperchlorate 3 years ago
Did you use HNO3 only? I allways thouhgt that you would need H2SO4/HNO3 the sulfuric acid consumes the water in the reaction.
potassiumperchlorate 3 years ago
I used sulphuric acid
Uberownager 3 years ago
nice man...
JodaPunk 3 years ago
Can I use acid battery from a car
van5003 3 years ago
Some people says that nitrocellulose is cotton, but cotton doesn't burn like that ? explain
o0JohnnyReb0o 3 years ago
You're absolutely right, this cotton has been treated with acids, so that the cotton has recieved oxygen and nitrogen in it's structure, on a molecular level. Thereby it burns rapidly and it is actually also explosive. It is called guncotton or nitrocellulose. Normal clean cotton is just cellulose
Uberownager 3 years ago
Thanks for your awnser ! I tryed the normal procedure ( mix 60% nitric acid and 40% sulfuric acid ) I put paper and cotton, they both turns yellow because of the nitrocellulose but after I cannot dry them ! I tryed with hairdryer and everything but it won't dry completely, I tryed to burn it and it just burn normally.... Do you have an Idea what to do ? Thanks. ( my sulfuric acid is some 32 degrees )
o0JohnnyReb0o 3 years ago
you must neutralise the product with a weak base. choose sodium hydrogen carbonate, around 5-7%
r3niac 3 years ago
Thanks for your awnser, I used sodium hydrogen carbonate to neutralise it the it dry normally, but when I burn the paper/cotton it just burn normally, nothing special ! and the paper/cotton is very yellow, could it be that my nitric and sulfuric are not concentred enough ?
o0JohnnyReb0o 3 years ago
my nitric is 60% and sulfuric 32°
o0JohnnyReb0o 3 years ago
Right, okay you need to leave cellulose in nitration for a good 24 hours for maximum nitration, that allows the nitronium ions to react with the hydroxyl group even with the lowest kinetic energy. Your sulphuric should be around 95% and above, and your nitric importantly needs to be a good 70% concentrated, anymore and you'll saturate the solution with it, and it'll become the stronger acid by mass. Neutralisation is a thorough process - test by litmus, and then wash with water to remove carb.
r3niac 3 years ago
Cellulose (C6H7(OH)3O) is nitrated, the hydroxyl group (-OH-) is replased by an nitrate group (-ONO2-). Cellulose nitrate is the proper name for nitrocellose. The reaction takes place in to a special mixture of acids of nitric acid and sulfuric acid (HONO2/H2SO4) Nitric acid could be prepared by disolving potassium nitrate in sulfuric acid, but this is not for beginners in chemistry....
cellulose nitrate: C6H7(ONO2)3O
cellulose (cotton) C6H7(OH)3O
potassiumperchlorate 3 years ago
any way to nitrate the cellulose instead of nitric acid?
marine12320 3 years ago
The most common alternative is using a nitrate salt and sulphuric acid, instead of nitric acid. Like KNO3, NH4NO3 and so on.
Uberownager 3 years ago
dose any one know were to find cellulose
booga4life 3 years ago
It's cotton... Buy cotton swaps or something
Uberownager 3 years ago
look for them niggers in the field, they be harvesting cotton
vvillem9 3 years ago 2
racest.....but funny.....
conrad2468 3 years ago
maybe my question is stupid.
But ¿what happens if i use more sulfuric acid than nitric acid? let say a mix of 33% nitric acid and 66% sulfuric acid
i got a lot of sulfuric acid, but i just can buy a small quantity of nitric acid
Licurgoknox 3 years ago
First of you will have to clarify if you mean % by weight or volume. I expect you mean volume :P
If you have such a mixture, in theory, it will nitrate the same amount of cotton even better(more complete) since the sulphuric acid is the catalyst. So you will end up with more powerful guncotton. But I think the excess sulphuric acid will just be a waste, because cotton is quite easy "nitrateable". A 50/50 mixture by volume would probably leave no noticeable difference from the 67/33
Uberownager 3 years ago
your vids excite me to take chemistry when school starts.
FunkTehSystem 3 years ago
I know this can be made with kno3 instead of nitric acid, but could i use hydrocloric acid and kno3 to make this?
weredude42 3 years ago
No, hydrochloric acid and KNO3 will make some HNO3 yes, but this will in turn react with the HCl and you will have royal water, and nitrosyl chloride and various other compounds in it. Very nasty :P
Uberownager 3 years ago
I just found some shower cleaner that contains Oxalic & Sulfamic acids, Do you think this might work? (im no good at determining how chemicals react with each other)
weredude42 3 years ago
No, it will not work. The nitric acid is the reactant which nitrates the cellulose. The sulphuric acid is the dehydrant, which removes the water caused by the reaction, thus catalyzing it. There is basically no alternatives(for "normal" household experiments)
Uberownager 3 years ago
what was the concentration of your sulfuric acid?
xxfinnellxx 3 years ago
It was concentrated sulphuric acid(94-100%). It has to be
Uberownager 3 years ago
is it combustible after testing with the paper but before it dries?
thx
hellfrezer 3 years ago
That... I did not understand :P
Uberownager 3 years ago
did you ever tried making nc in the presence off
phosphorospentoxide p2o5 it will cause complete esterfication of cellulose and contain 14% nitrogen. it will explode with a bang when ignigted.
pyronaft 3 years ago
I have never heard of a nitration using phosphorouspentoxide as the dehydrating agent to be honest. Do you have a more specific procedure? I would suspect it to be very hard to work with. There might be a chance that it will decompose the nitric acid into dinitrogen pentoxide.
And furthermore complete nitration of cellulose is actually possible using only the acids. I would estimate my sample here to be around 80-90% nitrated.
Uberownager 3 years ago
is that just like flash cotten
MestFan561 3 years ago
Yes, it is flash cotton
Uberownager 3 years ago
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great man, u r a genius!
russotragik 3 years ago
can you please make a video on how to make it
MestFan561 3 years ago
very cool!
is it hot?
Ulti13 3 years ago
Well, it does develop a lot of heat, but only briefly. So you barely feel the heat when doing this. Unless the cotton is wet, or bad quality :P then it hurts
Uberownager 3 years ago
pretty slow for NC IMO, did you use sulfuric acid?
Atevra 3 years ago
Slow? Offcourse I used sulphuric acid, otherwise it would just be cotton.
Uberownager 3 years ago
well it just seems kinda slow from what ive seen in the past
Atevra 3 years ago
Sounds like you've seen some pretty hardcore NC :P Anyway, the factors that determine the speed counts a lot. Like how loose the NC is packed and so on. But yeh I guess you're right, commercial top quality NC would most likely be a bit faster
Uberownager 3 years ago
yes, i was referring to unconfined NC
Atevra 3 years ago
bello video compimenti quella è nitrocellulosa non quella che hanno gli altri
very good, this is true nitrocellulose!
bastardobuono 4 years ago 2
i got 2 questions, do u using salt-ice or ice bath ? and what temperate you kept in ? do i really have to care for the temperate ?
vess25 4 years ago
Please take a look at the comments halfway down this page, before asking. You questions are already answered a couple times:
"I only cooled the acidmix to 5 degrees celsius, prior to the actual nitration.
The temperature doesn't rise that much, unless you are dealing with big quantities.
The goal is to keep it around 20 degrees approx. to allow a fast and efficient nitration, but at the same time make sure it doesn't rise too much - or it will get yellowish, and the acids will release fumes"
Uberownager 4 years ago
it looks funny
kondompackung 4 years ago
how do you make that stuff?
eddyman27 4 years ago