Obama Wins Indiana, Missouri and N. Carolina Still Too Close

[jasssmit]

I live in Indiana and am so proud of this.

[Atheist2006]

@jasssmit

And next year you will be able to be proud of having voted for Ron Paul.

[clarko95]

Indiana has voted Democrat only 5 times in the last 100 years: 1912, 1932, 1936, 1964, and 2008.

That is a massive achievement. Obama winning Indiana, North Carolina, and Virginia basically spelled doom for the Republicans. THAT is how badly Bush Jr.'s record and Palin's nomination came off on the country.

Obama probably won't win all of them again, but even then if the rest vote the way they did he'll still win.

[Atheist2006]

@clarko95

And it is a massive achievement of Senator McCain that Barack Hussein Osama didn't win the (former) bellwether state of Missouri.

[clarko95]

@Atheist2006 .....by less than 4,000 votes. And he still won Maine and Nevada, also bellwether states. Oh, and good play on his last name. That supposed to mean something?

[Atheist2006]

@clarko95

Have you never heard of the phrase: "As Maine goes, so goes Vermont"?

Main hasn't been a bellwether state anymore since 1936.

[freakylocz14]

Ron Paul 2012

[govrom12]

These states won't fall to the Democrats in 2012. The bigger problem for the Dems will be states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, and possibly New Jersey that are all important and could lean either way.

[lovethyneighborlol]

You're right, Obama probably won't lose in 2012. He expanded Gore & Kerry's electoral maps so much that he has several paths to victory. And let's not forget his biggest competition will be Mitt Rino. The religious right will not give him a large voter turn out so he will underperform like McCain did.

[mochopz]

I cant see Obama losing in 2012.



[XJuanwikoX]

@mochopz we would win again in 2012 . But 100% sure that we won't win Indiana again.

[50states1]

@mochopz me either

[jorgemartinez18]

It was definitely the surprise of the night.

[CoolBlue71]

@GodBlessAmerica121 NBC/MSNBC called Indiana as a Democratic pickup for Barack Obama sometime between 1 a.m. and 3 a.m. ET Wednesday, Nov. 5, 2008. CBS may have done likewise. (There was video, apparently after election-night signed off but Katie Couric and Co. had a live feed over the Internet; she was talking with the panel and, interrupted the discussion, to announce the projection.) I don't know any other times beyond this point (with other organizations).

[shaqqy88]

Only a couple of thousand votes ahead. Too bad fox news viewers from Indiania, NC, OHIO, virginia will cause those states to go Red in 2012. Though I hope those are the only 3 states that Obama cant hold on to as he'll still win if the others stay blue.

[CoolBlue71]

@shaqqy88 Obama won nationally by 7.26%. If he's losing Virginia, his closest state at 6.30%, then he won't be re-elected in 2012. Or his party won't hold the White House. If it's re-election for Obama and/or the Democrats, Virginia will be carried. So will Ohio, a leading bellwether (since 1896).

When a president gets re-elected, normally he gets an increase with margin and electoral votes. So, unless you're expecting a Republican pickup of the White House, your list is off.

[PeterFormaini]

Well, except Obama did not win Missouri..........

[Meezlyfoy]

I live in Missouri and its a swing state, but it is more republican though.

[GoreFreeTennessee]

I was shocked McCain won Missouri and Obama won Indiana, personally I think Obama will win Missouri next time and lose Indiana. Which if I were him I would take that swap

[Stinder]

@GoreFreeTennessee

They both have 11 electoral votes and both border Illinois.

[thewalrus45]

@GoreFreeTennessee depends if he wins Indiana again he'll probably win Missouri.

really it depends on the economy, the Republicans are doing well now because it hasn't gotten better fast enough in peoples minds but people are not voting FOR them they are voting against incumbents and "the establishment" mainly and if they don't remember that 2012 should be easy, we have a good shot to recoup loses in the House from this year as well in 2012.

[dvferyance]

@GoreFreeTennessee Obama will lose both in 2012 and then some the most unpopular president ever.

[jorgemartinez18]

No doubt, Indiana the surprise of the night.

[FeLizPC]

Missouri and North Carolina were not decided for like a week later or so.

North Carolina- To Obama

Missouri- To McCain

[Nihilatorxtralarge]

There is no way romney could win the south with his pro gun control stances, and somewhat moderate on social issues

[americanidolkid]

if mitt romney and palin run together in 2012 here are the states they will defintly win:

1.wyoming

2.massachusttes

3.new hampshire

4.alaska

5.utah

6.missisippi

7.alabama

8.texas(maby)

9.idaho

[daddymak9]

Mitt Romney will not win Massachusetts or New Hampshire. Massachusetts is the most reliable Democratic state in the nation. We voted for George McGovern in 1972 when 49 other states went to Richard Nixon. New Hampshire is another solid Democratic state. He'll win those other states, and Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma, too. With all of that, he still won't eclipse 150 electoral votes. That leaves the Republicans 120 ev's short of the necessary 270.

[AtomikNY]

You seriously think Massachusetts would ever vote for a Republican over Obama? Even Romney couldn't pull that one off.

And New Hampshire. No way baby. I'm going to be working my ass off (again) to keep that state blue. And we're going to win again.

[jayinmaine]

Are you out of your mind? You obviously don't live in New England! Romney loses by double digits with palin on the ticket.....face it,she's toast.

[jorgemartinez18]

@americanidolkid Ummm dumbass! 8 of those 9 state's are already red state's.  You obviously don't know your party's history that well.

[americanidolkid]

rohn paul has a good chance of winning in 2012 (if he decideds to run in 2012)

[AtomikNY]

Umm, Ron Paul got hammered in the Republican primary, and the general electorate isn't any more receptive to him. Even in Montana (with a whopping 3 electoral votes), which had him on the ballot and has an abnormally high number of libertarian-leaning voters, Paul only received about 2% of the vote in the 2008 election.

Whatever you're smoking, it must be good.

[americanidolkid]

opps :( i meant mitt romey not ron paul xD and i think palin would also have an advantage.

[Xenite227]

The Republicans have virtually nobody of interest to run in 2012. Suggesting Palin is a joke, and Jindal is a rube who took part in exorcisms in college lol

[commiepanda]

considering it was won by Bush in 2004 by 21 percent, it was a pretty big achievement.

[AtomikNY]

Exactly. A 21-point turnaround is significant. That would be like John McCain winning here in New York.

[nrafter530]

Considering no Democrat has won Indiana since Lyndon Johnson and no Democrat since has come close...even Bill Clinton (this was the first state called for Bush in 1992 and Dole in 1996), I would say this is quite an acheivement.

I would also say winning North Carolina and coming within 3% of winning Orange County, California are bigger acheivements.

[MissNapTown]

man get over it...i was BORN AND RAISED in indiana. my state hasn't gone democrat since before i was born. trust me when i say it's a HUGE achievement. your comment sounds silly and bitter. show the man some respect and credit he deserves!

[TriniNY]

If Obama remains as popular as he is throughout his first term (which can EASILY happen), he will carry other"red" states such as Arizona, Georgia, Missouri, and Alaska in 2012. In addition, he will carry Indiana by at least 10%!!!!!

[kunzy3000]

U forgot TEXAS .

Watch out for that state in 012

I doubt Alaska

[jorgemartinez18]

As much as I hate to say it, I don't think the state of TX will ever go Blue. Most voter's are too traditionally Red to be swing voter's. Many Texan's have in the mindset as well as Georgian's that if you don't vote for the Republican's, you're not patriotic. That's just the way it is. Regardless of who maybe right or wrong.

[kunzy3000]

Texas turn blue in 2012. who want to bet, 5000 dollar.

[brinmat]

From a Wisconsin Democrat who's fought like crazy to keep Wisconsin blue in 2004 and 2008, thanks Indiana! It's amazing to see we could finally swing you over this time. :)

[trooper40below]

No bro, if Palin gets the nomination (which I highly doubt) she will lose to Obama in a big way. Obama basically will win all the major blue states. Keep Ohio, Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada Indiana, and NC blue and get more states to turn blue...like Texas which is starting to get more blue. He'll take Montana away from her and perhaps Georgia. She wouldn't stand a chance against him.

[AtomikNY]

Hell if Palin is the presidential candidate the electoral vote might be 538-0 or 535-3. Depends on whether she can eke out a victory in Alaska.

[jorgemartinez18]

Palin probably won't even make it to the top of ticket because she's such an idiot.

[jorgemartinez18]

What about Missouri? Obama lost Missouri by only 3,236 votes. Not by much.

[GoreFreeTennessee]

@trooper40below very doubtful on Indiana, Montana or Texas. I don't see how you think tExas is becoming bluer. The Republicansare on the virge of a major landslide in all the statewide races except Governor and they have massive leads int he state legislature. Texas is the only thing keeping Republicans alive at this point presidentially. The only other state Obama is going to lose is North Carolina. You got to remember while I think he will get re-elected handily the South is solidly GOP

[CoolBlue71]

@GoreFreeTennessee When a Republican wins the presidency nowadays, he carries all states in the south and border south; because the "blue states" in the northeast, mid-Atlantic, upper midwest (Mich., Ill., Wis., Minn.), and pacific rim caught on to the "Southern strategy" and turned blue (1988/1992). They were red in the late-1800s/early-1900s. When a Democrat wins, he gets a choice few in the south (was that way with the late-1800s/early-1900s GOP. A couple exceptions: 1900 and before).

[daddymak9]

Indiana will go to Palin in 2012. ROTFLMAO. McCain lost Indiana because of Palin.

[jorgemartinez18]

My friend, Palin won't even make it to the top of the ticket because she's such an idiot. Her ass will get rolled over in the Primary's.

[daddymak9]

That's the point I was making. I guess you misunderstood. ROTFLMAO means Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off. That's what I was doing when I read some idiot post that Indiana will go Republican in 2012 if Palin is the nominee. Because of her, Obama won Indiana. As far as Texas, trust me on this. By 2020, Hispanics will be the largest voting bloc. And when that happens, Texas will become a blue state. Maybe not in 2012, but by 2020, this most certainly will happen.

[AtomikNY]

You are exactly right about Texas. And once Texas is no longer a reliably red state, the GOP's chances of winning the White House are gone.

They're going the way of the Whigs, I tell ya.

[FinalFantasyDCCXXVI]

The GOP survived Nixon, though.

[GoreFreeTennessee]

@daddymak9 I agree there, however times change. Charles Manson could be the Republican nominee nd he will win Indiana. THis was a fluke for Obama to win. I personally belive he gets re-elected in 2012, however he won't carry Indiana. He doesn't need it. This is like Clinton winning Montana in 1992, I voted for Clinton but even I knew he wouldnt win it again in 1996 which he didn't.

[NeCiFiX]

Even though I was only 14 when I campaigned for Obama [15 now] I was glad to help. I live in Wisconsin, as well.

[democrattotheend]

Awesome, thanks for posting! Do you remember what time they called this?

[daddymak8]

I just wish someone would post Brit Hume interrupting Karl Rove on election night to call Ohio for Obama. Rove was giving us McCain's prospects, begining with a win in Ohio. " Karl, let me interrupt you for a moment, I have just been informed that Ohio has been called for Obama. " BWAHAAAAAA!!!!

[nrafter530]

I don't know what time CNN called it. It appears to have been around 6am-7am based on the fact John King and Kiran Chetry are on...they anchored Wednesday morning coverage.

MSNBC called Indiana around 2:15am.

[nrafter530]

Around 6:15am

[nrafter530]

I can believe he won...I still can't believe he won Indiana...I still look at the results and am like "Wow, he REALLY won Indiana"

crazy...Indiana is a blue state...this year anyway

[bravesfanforever31]

In a way I am not surprised he won because he ran well in Indiana in the primaries against Hillary Clinton. It does help to be sandwiched by Ohio and Illinois, the state he is from. The youth vote and those people angry about the economy is what helped Obama barely win a very very red state. Who knows maybe Indiana is trending "purple." What significant about his win in Indiana is that in 2004 Bush won there by 20 points and two Indiana doesn't have a large black electorate(in Gary/indianapolis)

[ACeast4321]

my mom wuz campaigning there the sunday before!!!!!!

[Jutubi00]

Unbelievable that Democrats could win in Indiana!!!!

[someperson111]

WE DID IT!!!

[monkeyredmoon]

yes we did. all that volunteer work paid off. big victory

[someperson111]

LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!

[jorgemartinez18]

@Jutubi00 Absolutely! I couldn't believe it when MSNBC called it.

[foxh8er]

@Jutubi00 LOL, will probably be the last time.

Seriously, I have no idea how he won last time!

Either way, GOBAMA 12!

[CoolBlue71]

@foxh8er You weren't paying attention. Big part of it was George W. Bush having job-approval numbers in the 20s% and 30s% his last two years in office. Historically, since World War II, anytime a presidential election is coming and the president performs as low as Bush, his party was not able to hold the White House. 2008 was an election the Democrats had no business not winning. And win they did. So, perhaps that helps you understand that Bush made it historically impossible for John McCain.

[jasssmit]

@Jutubi00 I helped



[Doylefreewisconsin]

@Jutubi00 Obama is going to win again but even his people say they won't win this state again.