I cant decide if Ali watched too much Sanford & Son or Redd Foxx watched too much Ali lmao!!! Ali's mugging kills me everytime I see it lololol.........
Why, why, WHY did Ali's people allow him to get into the ring with this guy at THIS point in his career?!? What the HELL were they thinking? Ali should've retired or fought another cream puff. It's obvious how much his skills had eroded, and they put him in the ring with SHAVERS, a guy who could punch holes in CONCRETE!
This guy was the hardest puncher ever, this guy fucked up Ali more than any fighter, maybe more than Frazier. His trainer just died, Ali wasn't just the best, but the funniest, most entertaining boxer, who didn't give 2 fucks.
@Roundline shavers was a harder hitter than joe no doubt, but joe worked alis body over in fotc and manila better than anyone ive ever seen, this is what deteriorated ali, fraziers body punching
@Roundline How the HELL did Muhammed Ali ever survive all these hard hitting monsters?Liston?Frazier?Foreman?Lyle?Shavers?Cooper? etc shit,he MUST be the greatest!!!!!!!!!!
Ali was the greatest. He was so prideful. He fought in the deepest era of Heavyweight Boxing in History... was never knocked out and beat them all. He took some of the worst beatings I have ever seen and he never quit.
i cant think of a fighter who would have taken those punches. People forget but Shavers was dodged in those days, he was a scary fighter like Tyson in the 80's, Tyson was a bit faster but Shavers hit harder, just ask Larry Holmes who fought both, ro ask Foreman who dodged Shavers
I have to laugh when I read posts that Mike Tyson would have knocked Ali out. Not a snowballs chance. Ali was well past his prime here and took Shavers best shots.
MAN Ali had a hell of a chin, Shavers was nailing his ass but Ali took those shots,,,,,,,, Shavers shook him up quite a bit but becuz Ali was clownin during the fight shavers wasnt sure if he really had Ali hurt...
@madmax8903 If he had hit him as well as he hit, he would have. I don't know why Shavers didn't jump on him, he was badly hurt, and almost out. For Ali even to show anything means he's almost out, since he was the master of hiding it. He might have gotten a knockout if he had jumped on him, but then again, Ali recovered as well as anyone from knockdowns. It's just weird he gave him so much time.
shavers sucked at pacing himself, he didnt have stamina issues ,he was very fit, but he did manaage to burn himself out when he got to the later rounds because he started to fast.
almost opposite of frazier, who started slow , but stayed in your face all night after round 3.
Ali was slurring his words from 1976! Ferdie Pacheco left Ali's corner after the shavers fight because of ignored warnings of Ali's condition. he gradually found it harder to pronounce words.the damage was done over years off being hit around the neck where the brainstem is.its cells in the brainstem that got slowly killed over time.its these cells that triggered the release of dopamine to control movement.dopamine production stops in non-boxers with parkinsons.
After Manila it was as though Ali was fighting on memory. He would only win two more fights within the distance and no longer seemed like he could hurt an opponent.
I think in this fight along with the Jimmy Young fight and the third Norton fight, Ali's reputation kept him going because his opponents gave him too much respect. I thought Ali won the third Norton fight but only because Norton gave rounds away needlessly.
Here, Shavers should have been more aggressive and put Ali under pressure.
@bangitslo I think it was joe fraziers left hooks and the terrible heat of the thrilla that got ali into such early parkinsons. the substantia nigra which is the part of the brain affected by parkinsons is located on the right side of the brain (the side that gets hit with left hands) of course huge punchers like shavers contributed but i think the fight that cemented Ali as the greatest HW ever is also the one that brought about the beginning of the end, but like he even says it was worth it
In their primes these guys would still be scary mother fuckers to fight. And very exciting. George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, Joe Frazier, Ron Lyle, Floyd Patterson, Cleveland Williams and Sonny Liston. And Ali beat them all.
It's interesting to think we have missed 3 years of Ali's true physical prime -speed, footwork, style, reflexes, combinations, accuracy and an ability to avoid a punch better than i've seen Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones and maybe even Pernell Whitaker do too.
Although, a smarter, physically stronger and mentally tougher Ali emerged. Possibly the 'better' Ali anyway.
@bangitslo I agree. Ali should have retired after Manilla. His people kept him going to keep the money coming in. He took a tremendous amount of very hard punches in this fight. His speech and motor skills after this fight started to decline at a greater pace.
@dahoss65 shavers actually is bigger then most fighters today without a doubt I believe the quality of the film doesn't do them justice because shavers an enormous man
Notice the bodies of these two great fighters. Shavers extremely powerful knockout artist and Ali both strong and fast, yet, they both look like average men compared to todays fightes. One can really tell the steroid use being rampant in boxing today.
@dahoss65 boxers of today bodybuild and condition, boxers of them days conditiond, completely different. steroids would harm you as a fighter.. who would want big bulky hollow muscle just makes your heart pump even more thus 'gas' yourself.
@MrLukedanger You are clueless about steroids, my friend. Steroids arent just used for putting on muscle mass. Infact steroids ONLY works for putting on muscle mass if you are trying to build muscle. Otherwise it is used for when you are debilitated(weakened), lacking appetite, etc.
Also, steroids are harmful regardless of what you use them for.
Please dont talk about things you dont know about.
@dahoss65 erm, im a fully qualified personal trainer, pac isnt even beeing acused of anabolics, hes accused of GHD growth hormone because his frame has grown with him, i have no clue? your talking about asthetic looks of todays Bodybuilding boxers compaired to the guys who used to go 15-20 rounds shows how much you know, B-HOP looks like shit & hes the most conditioned fighter in his division. steroids make your muscles grow your heart is a muscle viens are made from the same stuff as muscle.
@MrLukedanger Just think about all the diff types of people in other various sports, etc who take steroids who DONT want muscle mass. They take them for other reasons that I mentioned. Cyclists for example. You being a personal trainer means nothing to me. Im in an industry(horse racing) that up until 2008 far exceeded the usage of steroids then those in the boxing scene. But now that it has been banned, many trainers/owners/vets are using other forms not yet tested for, such as pig juice, etc
@dahoss65 steroids dont make your bones grow thats the main reason PRO BB can barely breath, (lungs grow) but there ribcage doesnt hence the bloated look, not to mention how fucked up your CV cystem becomes using this shit, some people just have better genes than others and like i said, boxers do conditioning.. conditioning has almost no effect on muscle mass... BBing does thats how they get so big... i studied for 3 years i know as much as any other guy otherwise i wouldnt of passed.
Huge bombs by Shavers in that 2nd round. Anyone else in boxing would have gone down, and maybe stayed down. Ali later admitted when he went back to his corner he was badly hurt, but playing it off.
No MSG couldn't sell boxing which is why they stopped having major fights there for many years. 4 months earlier I attended the Norton Bobick fight there featuring the top 2 contenders for Ali's title. My ticket was only 10 dollars and place was half empty. a year or so after Ali-Shavers MSG hosted the great title fight between Larry Holmes and Mike Weaver, Weaver almost pulled out a Buster Douglas type upset. I was there for that one too and again there were thousands of empty seats.
No MSG couldn't sell coxing which is why they stopped having major fights there for many years. 4 months earlier I attended the Norton Bobick fight there featuring the top 2 contenders for Ali's title. My ticket was only 10 dollars and place was half empty. a year or so after Ali-Shavers MSG hosted the great title fight between Larry Holmes and Mike Weaver, Weaver almost pulled out a Buster Douglas type upset. I was there for that one too and again there were thousands of empty seats.
I've seen this fight over 10 times and Ali clearly wins it. Shavers shook Ali badly in couple of rounds but not enough to overcome Ali's work. Ali won it with his jab and not to mention he shook Shavers himself a few times. Not too bad for a 36 year old Ali.
I was at this fight in 1977 at Madison Square Garden. To this day the most memorable part was that there were 5,000 empty seats. This was the greatest boxer of all time against the greatest puncher of all time and MSG couldnt come close to a sellout. But in the 15th round when Ali almost KO'd Shavers in the last minute it sounded like 100,000 people. I thought Shavers won a close deciision at thetikme, as did most in attendance. But Ali got the unanimous nod.
@UbruStar That is very interesting. MSG and the media must have fudged the numbers if what you are saying is correct, and you must be since you were there. I had always been led to believe that it was a sellout crowd.
he only truly lost to joe frazier the other fights he lost were becuase he was getting old.... just like all fighters... mike tyson lost to lennox lewis old but what i'm trying to say is most fighters loss towards the end of the year... ali's fighter told him to stop fighting but ali kept fighting.. the only reason he lost to joe was becuase joe caught him with the left hook.
@JCstar214618 Well to be precise, Ali never TRULY lost against any fighter. Remember Ali was never the same after his toughest fight of all time, the US government, and that fight lasted 3+ years. When he finally did come back after that lay-off not only was he not the same ability-wise its well documented Ali didn't train good enough for Frazier I either. No one ever came close to defeating Prime Ali 64-67. Sad how they took more than 3 years of Ali's prime....
@bangitslo oh yeah,the entire Holmes fight was much much more intense.Earnie actually intended to win that fight.Like most Ali opponents,Shavers didnt really think he could win,he was tentative,cautious etc,but against Holmes,he was all out,those were much more crushing blows he threw at Holmes,im glad you could see that..
@onlyjoetee I think so also , although Ali took quite a few right hands from Shavers in this the 2ND round ... One only has to wonder how would Ali have stood up against Mike Tyson who hit just as hard if not worse with more speed and skill to go with it .
@double42 Keep in mind,this is Ali at 38 at the end of the line.Prime Ali would have surrounded Tyson completely,taken him deep into the later rounds and probably Kod him,not to mention the psychology he would have come up with for a volatile minded person like tyson,Ali would have destroyed him!!
It's so painful and hard for me to watch Ali in the late 70's; whether that be in the ring or in his interviews. He just didn't talk the same fight the same or look the same after 1975 - 76!
Ali should have retired before this bout. It is obvious that he isn't in shape and his heart wasn't into training anymore. Had he retired after the foreman fight we would still think of him as great and he might be doing ringside commentary. What happened to ali is tragic.
9:45 I bet THAT'S the punch that gave Ali permanent brain damage. Geez, if only Shavers didn't get hesitant by that hand gesture after that monster shot landed...
Big contrast to the 1964-1967 Ali. Much bigger and stronger. Not as fast or as sharp. But he seems to have developed a better chin and mind through experience.
Ali's brilliance is seen in Round 2 when Shavers clocks him. Ali's initial instinct is not to show he's hurt, but to wave Shavers on. Years later, Shavers said that this fooled him and made him reluctant to come inside. The extra few seconds allowed Ali to regain enough composure to finish the round. Ali had the best chin ever and could think on his feet better than any fighter. This is Ernie Shavers who is probably the hardest puncher in boxing history.
finally, it shows the hardest hitting heavyweights 1.Shavers-hitting at 963lbs of force 2.Foreman-hitting at 932lbs of force 3. Rocky- hitting at 878lbs of force 4. Frazier-hitting at 843lbs of force 5. Dempsey-hitting at 822lbs of force 6. Liston- hitting at 780lbs of force 7. Joe Louis-hitting at 779lbs of force 8. Carnera-hitting at 767lbs of force 9. Patterson-hitting at 727lbs of force 10. Ali- hitting at 685lbs of force
They use knockouts to estimate the punching power. They didn't make them all punch a psi machine and measure it. They used how many knockouts as their means of determining strength. Not always accurate. Archie Moore fought as a heavyweight agaisnt Marciano, and had over 130 knockouts. He would be highest if they ranked him, though possessing far less physical power.
tyson the best boxer ever to live? uh, huh....so awesome that he got his ASS KICKED by the "legendary" buster douglas! lol so great that he got manhandled by holyfield who was supposed to be a first round k.o. getting back to the fight, that right hand of shavers could knock down an oak tree and ali survived it! ali and lyle said that shavers was the hardest hitter they ever fought. norton would say the same thing.
What? He's certainly one of the greats, but he got tired when people managed to take him the distance. Based on that I'd say Ali > Tyson, seeing as Ali had a great amount of stamina and also a great chin.
Ali had different kinds of Jabs, but the way Muhammad Ali is Jabbing Shavers in this fight is called " Snake licking " !!! lol... Muhammad Ali is the greatest !
To any boxing fan: What do you consider the "golden age" of boxing? There are many decades to choose from but take into account that 70 million Americans watched this fight! More then 1/2 the TV sets in the country! Forget boxing, I can't recall any other sporting event period, that generated those numbers! Personally I think the 70's was the "golden age" of boxing. The 80's, saw Tyson (popular though he was), rejuvenated the sport, but it was about more money for fighters, not more fans.
...more: I think, if Norton hadn't sustained so much punishment in his career, and life-threatening injuries stemming from a horrible car accident in the 80s, he could have moved on to be a great boxing-commentator--in my opinion. But, even today, he seems to be doing pretty well given his circumstances. Long live Norton.
...Ali's such a character. Win or lose--it didn't matter. Ali won the hearts of so many fans, around the world. 'But, knowing that he was coming up against a harder puncher than Big George Foreman, I wonder what went through Ali's mind.
2-0 Shavers. I don't believe Ali won round 1. He landed mostly on gloves, Shavers land hard right hands. Round 2 goes the Shavers good display of clean hard punching.
this aint so entertaining :/ ali in his prime is without a doubt the best boxer of all time. he just danced around opponents, but in this fight he just stayed flat footed which is actually a shame to see :(
Ali took more punishment in this fight, than in his entire combined career up to & after this fight. I think THIS fight, more than anything else, contributed to his condition. To take that many punches is bad enough. But to take them from a puncher like Shavers is unbelievable. Ali took enough punishment in this fight, to K.O. 10 other fighters combined. Ali had an argument & or fired his trainer,manger, something like that, because after watching this, he didn't want Ali to fight anymore.
I think at this stage of his career Ali still had a lot left, but you have to admit that he was nothing compared to the physical specimen he was when he fought Liston, or even after his layoff when he fought Frazier. He still had some hand speed, and his chin was holding up pretty good, but he was not the gazelle he used to be. I remember I thought Shaver was doing pretty well in this fight, at least for most of the rounds.
Shavers, the hardest puncher of all time maybe Louis a bit harder, and Shavers.. The Classiest fighter of all time. I am an Ali fan from way back and everytime I watch this fight I am not sure if Ali won it. Shavers said Ali did. He was there. I guess I have to take Earnies word for it
Those SAME SHOTS decked Larry Holmes 2 years later.Ali was Ali.....the best i've ever seen.The speed Ali still had in his jabs this late in his career was unreal.Whats mind boggling is Ali punch speed was about half of what it was when he was prime 64-1967.Unreal for a heavy weight
How can't you see Shavers is in his prime and Ali is almost worn out, yet Ali recuperate better then any of best boxers so fast and hold on all those punches from hardest puncher of all times Shavers.
That's how BIG Ali is, any other heavyweight would just kiss the floor after those punches or even worse ''no-brain" heavyweights would just run in another punch while Ali is smart and pulls back to recuperate and survive till he gets a grip and won him on points. He is smart, fast, strong G.O.A.T.
@EVHfan5001 it's not that impressive i mean in the old days they schedule a fight every week si it's easy if you got the heart to fight all of them fights but still robinson was great and 176 fights won on his legacy gave him his place in the greatests boxers rank
@toox but if sugar ray was a heavyweight with the same qualities he would lose against ali because everybody knows that sugars hands were quick and combos were nice but he is one of the easiest boxers to hit
Larry Holmes recently stated that it was this fight that did the real damage to Ali's brain. Those punches he took in the second round would knock any other heavyweight out. He looks slow and old in this fight, but his class and ringcraft is supreme. Thank you boxingatitsbest for posting this classic fight.
Ali was the greatest because quite simply, he beat the best some of the best fighers of all time! Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Liston, Lyle, Shavers, etc....
Such a shame and tragedy that Ali took so many heavy blows to his head during this match. Yes he earned a lot of money and was immensely popular, but honestly he should have retired after Manila.
man, its upsetting to see ali like this. Man, he should have hung up his gloves a long time ago and maybe would've been as illustrious outside the ring after his retirement.
I think this fight really took a tole on Ali. Had Ali fought Shavers when he was younger, it would have been a tough fight, but Ali wouldn't have got hit as much. THis fight causd alot damage. Ali became incredibly likeable and popular toward the end of his career. He started to lose that 'malace'.
Muhammad Ali once said in the late 80's as a guest on The Arsenio Hall show that Earnie Shavers without a doubt hit him harder than any boxer that he ever faced in his career. I watched the show, I heard him personally make the comment.
The punches ali took in this fight went a long way towards making him the diaper wearing retard he is today. Boxing, the sweet science, is the most brutal sport out there in the long run.
@JV246 Learn to read and comprehend before replying. Boxing is the more brutal sport because over the long run it causes major medican conditions and damage. MMA fights are over quicker and a guy doesn't take shots to the head for 15 rounds over 20 years of fighting.
lol wtf. why not just give me a source? i know what you're saying is wrong anyway... you are a stupid guy and im pretty sure you are retarded or under the age of 10 if you believe that 50 PRO BOXERS DIE EACH YEAR. people like you shouldn't be allowed to comment on the internet
50-60 deaths lmao. idiot. almost every boxing death will make one of the boxing news media that i frequently read and I can only think one death that happened last year. if 50-60 people died a year from boxing the sport woulda been banned a long time ago.
actually no, many boxers die, google dont lie, mma is brutal at like 5 match range, but like +30 matches or more (long range) from that on boxing is more brutal
Mannnnnnnnnnnnnn..... ALI ALI ... ALI WAS THE GREATEST! THE GREATEST OF ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIMESSSSSSSS
amaar90 3 days ago
he should got out after Thrilla in Manila,maybe he would save himself then from a deasease...: :(
MrVojnicanin 1 week ago
8:00 and some secs afterwards show ALI HAS THE BEST STAMINA
a4ahsansaab 2 weeks ago
I cant decide if Ali watched too much Sanford & Son or Redd Foxx watched too much Ali lmao!!! Ali's mugging kills me everytime I see it lololol.........
hunkallgood73 3 weeks ago
Why, why, WHY did Ali's people allow him to get into the ring with this guy at THIS point in his career?!? What the HELL were they thinking? Ali should've retired or fought another cream puff. It's obvious how much his skills had eroded, and they put him in the ring with SHAVERS, a guy who could punch holes in CONCRETE!
Odawg96 1 month ago
This guy was the hardest puncher ever, this guy fucked up Ali more than any fighter, maybe more than Frazier. His trainer just died, Ali wasn't just the best, but the funniest, most entertaining boxer, who didn't give 2 fucks.
Roundline 1 month ago
@Roundline shavers was a harder hitter than joe no doubt, but joe worked alis body over in fotc and manila better than anyone ive ever seen, this is what deteriorated ali, fraziers body punching
messier991102 2 weeks ago
@Roundline How the HELL did Muhammed Ali ever survive all these hard hitting monsters?Liston?Frazier?Foreman?Lyle?Shavers?Cooper? etc shit,he MUST be the greatest!!!!!!!!!!
onlyjoetee 1 week ago
Ali was the greatest. He was so prideful. He fought in the deepest era of Heavyweight Boxing in History... was never knocked out and beat them all. He took some of the worst beatings I have ever seen and he never quit.
rolsson138 1 month ago
i cant think of a fighter who would have taken those punches. People forget but Shavers was dodged in those days, he was a scary fighter like Tyson in the 80's, Tyson was a bit faster but Shavers hit harder, just ask Larry Holmes who fought both, ro ask Foreman who dodged Shavers
prjerry7 2 months ago
I have to laugh when I read posts that Mike Tyson would have knocked Ali out. Not a snowballs chance. Ali was well past his prime here and took Shavers best shots.
vgr112261 2 months ago
Ali's hands were SO fast,damn,even at this stage in his career,blinding hand speed..
onlyjoetee 2 months ago
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Magnificent ali After fighting wars with foreman,frazier,norton, Ali way past his prime still takes on biggest puncher shavers
jintoor 2 months ago
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jintoor 2 months ago
Magnificent ali After fighting wars with foreman,frazier,norton, Ali way past his prime still takes on biggest puncher shavers
jintoor 2 months ago
Is it just me or did Ali always headhunting? he still is the Greatest though. Peace
Dnamsak 2 months ago
MAN Ali had a hell of a chin, Shavers was nailing his ass but Ali took those shots,,,,,,,, Shavers shook him up quite a bit but becuz Ali was clownin during the fight shavers wasnt sure if he really had Ali hurt...
TheTony22019 2 months ago
man Ali is such a charismatic person. he had me cracking up when he was rubbing earnie's head
xD
JK420Y 3 months ago
This is why Ali is the way he is. Because he could take such a good punch, and knew it, he allowed himself to get damaged.
MOSTechnology 3 months ago
I LOVE ALI SO MUCH
brakeyourself 3 months ago
Ali should have called it quits right after this fight.
ImKoolWithThis 3 months ago
Shavers is a MONSTER!!
illuminatiCannibal 3 months ago
Ali is a BEAST!!
illuminatiCannibal 3 months ago
star wars!
lucky44124 3 months ago
Ali was never floored by a right, but Shavers came the closest. He had him reeling across the ring in that second.
madmax8903 4 months ago
@madmax8903 If he had hit him as well as he hit, he would have. I don't know why Shavers didn't jump on him, he was badly hurt, and almost out. For Ali even to show anything means he's almost out, since he was the master of hiding it. He might have gotten a knockout if he had jumped on him, but then again, Ali recovered as well as anyone from knockdowns. It's just weird he gave him so much time.
TA152H01 4 months ago
@TA152H01
shavers sucked at pacing himself, he didnt have stamina issues ,he was very fit, but he did manaage to burn himself out when he got to the later rounds because he started to fast.
almost opposite of frazier, who started slow , but stayed in your face all night after round 3.
thievinbrudda 3 months ago
@thievinbrudda Shavers didn't have anywhere near Frazier's stamina. If you go by the number of punches thrown per round, there's a big difference.
Not many guys have a big punch and stamina though. Shavers stamina wasn't horrible either though. I think people overstate that a bit.
TA152H01 3 months ago
@TA152H01
yeah i know brother i wasnt saying he did .
but if shavers paced himself he could of been as good as any other top ten contender, but as we know he never got that part of his game down
thievinbrudda 3 months ago
Ali was slurring his words from 1976! Ferdie Pacheco left Ali's corner after the shavers fight because of ignored warnings of Ali's condition. he gradually found it harder to pronounce words.the damage was done over years off being hit around the neck where the brainstem is.its cells in the brainstem that got slowly killed over time.its these cells that triggered the release of dopamine to control movement.dopamine production stops in non-boxers with parkinsons.
shelleypark 4 months ago
Ali is the 8th miracles of the World
MrFatos123 4 months ago
ali jokin' man.........
jimiguitar100 4 months ago
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It's hard to believe when you seeing Ali larking about before the start of the fight that this is the Heavyweight Champion of the World!
I think Ali had concerns about fighting a fierce puncher like Shavers at this stage of his career but you'd never guess it from looking at this.
Norton makes an excellent boxing summariser, very articulate.
dcasey77 4 months ago
look at his eyes...you could tell there was something wrong with him....
darrylhaynes 6 months ago
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dcasey77 6 months ago
After Manila it was as though Ali was fighting on memory. He would only win two more fights within the distance and no longer seemed like he could hurt an opponent.
I think in this fight along with the Jimmy Young fight and the third Norton fight, Ali's reputation kept him going because his opponents gave him too much respect. I thought Ali won the third Norton fight but only because Norton gave rounds away needlessly.
Here, Shavers should have been more aggressive and put Ali under pressure.
dcasey77 6 months ago
Lol Archie Moore had more ko's than all the guys on that list have fights
Nemesis2151 6 months ago
shavers had a desvestating punch
Saeufercrew 6 months ago
@bangitslo I think it was joe fraziers left hooks and the terrible heat of the thrilla that got ali into such early parkinsons. the substantia nigra which is the part of the brain affected by parkinsons is located on the right side of the brain (the side that gets hit with left hands) of course huge punchers like shavers contributed but i think the fight that cemented Ali as the greatest HW ever is also the one that brought about the beginning of the end, but like he even says it was worth it
benballs999 7 months ago
HE WOULDN'T TALK ALL THAT SHIT IF HE WASN'T SCARED SHAVERS
sunamcmnairb 7 months ago
In their primes these guys would still be scary mother fuckers to fight. And very exciting. George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, Joe Frazier, Ron Lyle, Floyd Patterson, Cleveland Williams and Sonny Liston. And Ali beat them all.
arama0010 7 months ago
It's interesting to think we have missed 3 years of Ali's true physical prime -speed, footwork, style, reflexes, combinations, accuracy and an ability to avoid a punch better than i've seen Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones and maybe even Pernell Whitaker do too.
Although, a smarter, physically stronger and mentally tougher Ali emerged. Possibly the 'better' Ali anyway.
arama0010 7 months ago
@bangitslo I agree. Ali should have retired after Manilla. His people kept him going to keep the money coming in. He took a tremendous amount of very hard punches in this fight. His speech and motor skills after this fight started to decline at a greater pace.
jd0109 8 months ago
@dahoss65 shavers actually is bigger then most fighters today without a doubt I believe the quality of the film doesn't do them justice because shavers an enormous man
HiMyNameIsRoss 8 months ago
@HiMyNameIsRoss Shavers usually weighed 200 - 210lb . . . . . . Not enormous at all
bigdaddy4069 8 months ago
@bigdaddy4069 ehh more likt 218- 225 buddy nice try tho
HiMyNameIsRoss 6 months ago
no one hit like shavers man
theog67 9 months ago
Notice the bodies of these two great fighters. Shavers extremely powerful knockout artist and Ali both strong and fast, yet, they both look like average men compared to todays fightes. One can really tell the steroid use being rampant in boxing today.
dahoss65 9 months ago
@dahoss65 boxers of today bodybuild and condition, boxers of them days conditiond, completely different. steroids would harm you as a fighter.. who would want big bulky hollow muscle just makes your heart pump even more thus 'gas' yourself.
MrLukedanger 7 months ago
@MrLukedanger You are clueless about steroids, my friend. Steroids arent just used for putting on muscle mass. Infact steroids ONLY works for putting on muscle mass if you are trying to build muscle. Otherwise it is used for when you are debilitated(weakened), lacking appetite, etc.
Also, steroids are harmful regardless of what you use them for.
Please dont talk about things you dont know about.
dahoss65 7 months ago
@dahoss65 erm, im a fully qualified personal trainer, pac isnt even beeing acused of anabolics, hes accused of GHD growth hormone because his frame has grown with him, i have no clue? your talking about asthetic looks of todays Bodybuilding boxers compaired to the guys who used to go 15-20 rounds shows how much you know, B-HOP looks like shit & hes the most conditioned fighter in his division. steroids make your muscles grow your heart is a muscle viens are made from the same stuff as muscle.
MrLukedanger 7 months ago
@MrLukedanger Just think about all the diff types of people in other various sports, etc who take steroids who DONT want muscle mass. They take them for other reasons that I mentioned. Cyclists for example. You being a personal trainer means nothing to me. Im in an industry(horse racing) that up until 2008 far exceeded the usage of steroids then those in the boxing scene. But now that it has been banned, many trainers/owners/vets are using other forms not yet tested for, such as pig juice, etc
dahoss65 7 months ago
@dahoss65 steroids dont make your bones grow thats the main reason PRO BB can barely breath, (lungs grow) but there ribcage doesnt hence the bloated look, not to mention how fucked up your CV cystem becomes using this shit, some people just have better genes than others and like i said, boxers do conditioning.. conditioning has almost no effect on muscle mass... BBing does thats how they get so big... i studied for 3 years i know as much as any other guy otherwise i wouldnt of passed.
MrLukedanger 7 months ago
ALI' s 11th hour
AFFTL 9 months ago
4:25 into the fight the announcer says that Shavers is "obliterated" as to Ali's actions. Classic!
TinyRonBrown1964 9 months ago
Huge bombs by Shavers in that 2nd round. Anyone else in boxing would have gone down, and maybe stayed down. Ali later admitted when he went back to his corner he was badly hurt, but playing it off.
zenmachinefilms 9 months ago
Best chin in boxing history
BiffaBacon 9 months ago
@BiffaBacon
Ali is the best defense and offesnse in boxing along with Sugar ray Robinson.
hbk711x 9 months ago
No MSG couldn't sell boxing which is why they stopped having major fights there for many years. 4 months earlier I attended the Norton Bobick fight there featuring the top 2 contenders for Ali's title. My ticket was only 10 dollars and place was half empty. a year or so after Ali-Shavers MSG hosted the great title fight between Larry Holmes and Mike Weaver, Weaver almost pulled out a Buster Douglas type upset. I was there for that one too and again there were thousands of empty seats.
UbruStar 10 months ago
No MSG couldn't sell coxing which is why they stopped having major fights there for many years. 4 months earlier I attended the Norton Bobick fight there featuring the top 2 contenders for Ali's title. My ticket was only 10 dollars and place was half empty. a year or so after Ali-Shavers MSG hosted the great title fight between Larry Holmes and Mike Weaver, Weaver almost pulled out a Buster Douglas type upset. I was there for that one too and again there were thousands of empty seats.
UbruStar 10 months ago
I've seen this fight over 10 times and Ali clearly wins it. Shavers shook Ali badly in couple of rounds but not enough to overcome Ali's work. Ali won it with his jab and not to mention he shook Shavers himself a few times. Not too bad for a 36 year old Ali.
vladiator100 10 months ago
I was at this fight in 1977 at Madison Square Garden. To this day the most memorable part was that there were 5,000 empty seats. This was the greatest boxer of all time against the greatest puncher of all time and MSG couldnt come close to a sellout. But in the 15th round when Ali almost KO'd Shavers in the last minute it sounded like 100,000 people. I thought Shavers won a close deciision at thetikme, as did most in attendance. But Ali got the unanimous nod.
UbruStar 10 months ago
@UbruStar That is very interesting. MSG and the media must have fudged the numbers if what you are saying is correct, and you must be since you were there. I had always been led to believe that it was a sellout crowd.
vidnut67 10 months ago
he only truly lost to joe frazier the other fights he lost were becuase he was getting old.... just like all fighters... mike tyson lost to lennox lewis old but what i'm trying to say is most fighters loss towards the end of the year... ali's fighter told him to stop fighting but ali kept fighting.. the only reason he lost to joe was becuase joe caught him with the left hook.
ali is undefeated forget the record
JCstar214618 10 months ago
@JCstar214618 Well to be precise, Ali never TRULY lost against any fighter. Remember Ali was never the same after his toughest fight of all time, the US government, and that fight lasted 3+ years. When he finally did come back after that lay-off not only was he not the same ability-wise its well documented Ali didn't train good enough for Frazier I either. No one ever came close to defeating Prime Ali 64-67. Sad how they took more than 3 years of Ali's prime....
vladiator100 10 months ago
Man cheers for posting this fight, always love to watch the classics :D
Omikron 11 months ago
LMAO at 8.20
wasim5001 11 months ago
@bangitslo oh yeah,the entire Holmes fight was much much more intense.Earnie actually intended to win that fight.Like most Ali opponents,Shavers didnt really think he could win,he was tentative,cautious etc,but against Holmes,he was all out,those were much more crushing blows he threw at Holmes,im glad you could see that..
onlyjoetee 11 months ago
@bangitslo i think what he hit Larry Holmes with was altogether harder and deliberate than what he hit Ali with
onlyjoetee 11 months ago
@onlyjoetee I think so also , although Ali took quite a few right hands from Shavers in this the 2ND round ... One only has to wonder how would Ali have stood up against Mike Tyson who hit just as hard if not worse with more speed and skill to go with it .
double42 11 months ago
@double42 Keep in mind,this is Ali at 38 at the end of the line.Prime Ali would have surrounded Tyson completely,taken him deep into the later rounds and probably Kod him,not to mention the psychology he would have come up with for a volatile minded person like tyson,Ali would have destroyed him!!
onlyjoetee 11 months ago
most punchers cant box,most boxers cant punch,i actually prefer the later Ali,in his 30s,for me he was a much better boxer,more patient..
onlyjoetee 11 months ago
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onlyjoetee 1 year ago
It's so painful and hard for me to watch Ali in the late 70's; whether that be in the ring or in his interviews. He just didn't talk the same fight the same or look the same after 1975 - 76!
JAYLOVE47 1 year ago
@JynxFilms which one there were 5 of them
PsiNess4396 1 year ago
@PsiNess4396 dumbest question ever!
primeboxers 1 year ago
@PsiNess4396 who the fuck are you and why did u hack me
PsiNess4396 1 year ago
great champion way out of his prime an still faces hard hitters an good fighters
aaarrr1 1 year ago
Muhammad Ali is the best!
4real313 1 year ago 10
"Ali looks like he was on drugs"?! No, it looks like he's suffering early symptoms of Parkinson's Disease
fertkuio 1 year ago
Ali looks like he was on drugs...
0Turbox 1 year ago
Ali should have retired before this bout. It is obvious that he isn't in shape and his heart wasn't into training anymore. Had he retired after the foreman fight we would still think of him as great and he might be doing ringside commentary. What happened to ali is tragic.
christo930 1 year ago 3
if i was hit by one those punches that shavers threw to Ali, i might be in heaven now...Lol XD
archidexterous20 1 year ago
mein gott wie der muhammad ali so hart anguckt,der hat rache und hass,,
2010xoxox 1 year ago
damm earnieee is hard as hell
Blackjesus3 1 year ago
wow muhammad vs the hardest puncher ever :D
Blackjesus3 1 year ago
9:45 I bet THAT'S the punch that gave Ali permanent brain damage. Geez, if only Shavers didn't get hesitant by that hand gesture after that monster shot landed...
O_o
PeekaPeep 1 year ago
Big contrast to the 1964-1967 Ali. Much bigger and stronger. Not as fast or as sharp. But he seems to have developed a better chin and mind through experience.
Rockyfan10060 1 year ago
8:24 wtf 1 punch and he almost flew out of the ring
Arekai1404 1 year ago
Ali's brilliance is seen in Round 2 when Shavers clocks him. Ali's initial instinct is not to show he's hurt, but to wave Shavers on. Years later, Shavers said that this fooled him and made him reluctant to come inside. The extra few seconds allowed Ali to regain enough composure to finish the round. Ali had the best chin ever and could think on his feet better than any fighter. This is Ernie Shavers who is probably the hardest puncher in boxing history.
Triumph100Rider 1 year ago
8.12 makes me giggle
farrell360 1 year ago
9:45 boom look at alis head it almost flew off his neck!LOL
ichirima 1 year ago
Wow, surprised to see Ali moving so slow. Never seen many of his later fights.
This is Ali in his 17th year as a professional boxer, 13 years after fighting Sonny Liston in his prime...
DaveKarl 1 year ago
whats the deal with the star wars music?
aaronISyoda 1 year ago
kingdarius1991 1 year ago
@kingdarius1991 actually, that is their knockout percentage....
rediculousnicholas 1 year ago
@rediculousnicholas, than why does it say 'Hardest hitting heavyweights of all time'
kingdarius1991 1 year ago
They use knockouts to estimate the punching power. They didn't make them all punch a psi machine and measure it. They used how many knockouts as their means of determining strength. Not always accurate. Archie Moore fought as a heavyweight agaisnt Marciano, and had over 130 knockouts. He would be highest if they ranked him, though possessing far less physical power.
Rockyfan10060 1 year ago
@kingdarius1991 because STATISTICALLY he is. I think we can all agree that Ali had one hell of a chin. Peace.
makeminefunky 1 year ago
It's not pounds of force. It's the knockout percentage. PCT is abbreviation for percentage.
Rockyfan10060 1 year ago
tyson the best boxer ever to live? uh, huh....so awesome that he got his ASS KICKED by the "legendary" buster douglas! lol so great that he got manhandled by holyfield who was supposed to be a first round k.o. getting back to the fight, that right hand of shavers could knock down an oak tree and ali survived it! ali and lyle said that shavers was the hardest hitter they ever fought. norton would say the same thing.
ztztzyzy 1 year ago
Mike Tyson, Best boxer to ever live....
WMcginnisofficial 1 year ago
What? He's certainly one of the greats, but he got tired when people managed to take him the distance. Based on that I'd say Ali > Tyson, seeing as Ali had a great amount of stamina and also a great chin.
GiantSandles 1 year ago
Damn, is that Larry Merchant with the occasional commentary ?
BringerOfTheTruth 1 year ago
Shit, that right hand to the face would have taken anyone else out.
TYKKETYKKE 1 year ago
@assahkumlamman lmaoooo that smile was priceless
moneykellzgot1 1 year ago
Ali in his prime would have thoroughly whupped Shavers.
GOATAli 1 year ago
Ali had different kinds of Jabs, but the way Muhammad Ali is Jabbing Shavers in this fight is called " Snake licking " !!! lol... Muhammad Ali is the greatest !
truthhitmanisback 1 year ago
When you have someone with as little brains as these two its no wonder hitting them in the head doesn't knock them out. Dopes!
MaidAmerican 1 year ago
please mate tell me where you got muhammad ali fights
rastatalk56 1 year ago
To any boxing fan: What do you consider the "golden age" of boxing? There are many decades to choose from but take into account that 70 million Americans watched this fight! More then 1/2 the TV sets in the country! Forget boxing, I can't recall any other sporting event period, that generated those numbers! Personally I think the 70's was the "golden age" of boxing. The 80's, saw Tyson (popular though he was), rejuvenated the sport, but it was about more money for fighters, not more fans.
gjc82071 1 year ago
225 pounds Ali?
RomanSedlak 1 year ago
...more: I think, if Norton hadn't sustained so much punishment in his career, and life-threatening injuries stemming from a horrible car accident in the 80s, he could have moved on to be a great boxing-commentator--in my opinion. But, even today, he seems to be doing pretty well given his circumstances. Long live Norton.
soulinthewall77 1 year ago
...Ali's such a character. Win or lose--it didn't matter. Ali won the hearts of so many fans, around the world. 'But, knowing that he was coming up against a harder puncher than Big George Foreman, I wonder what went through Ali's mind.
soulinthewall77 1 year ago
2-0 Shavers. I don't believe Ali won round 1. He landed mostly on gloves, Shavers land hard right hands. Round 2 goes the Shavers good display of clean hard punching.
Automatic25 1 year ago
This is where you start to see Ali's mental state
guy5140 2 years ago
this aint so entertaining :/ ali in his prime is without a doubt the best boxer of all time. he just danced around opponents, but in this fight he just stayed flat footed which is actually a shame to see :(
aimatunub 2 years ago
Ali took more punishment in this fight, than in his entire combined career up to & after this fight. I think THIS fight, more than anything else, contributed to his condition. To take that many punches is bad enough. But to take them from a puncher like Shavers is unbelievable. Ali took enough punishment in this fight, to K.O. 10 other fighters combined. Ali had an argument & or fired his trainer,manger, something like that, because after watching this, he didn't want Ali to fight anymore.
gjc82071 1 year ago 2
I think at this stage of his career Ali still had a lot left, but you have to admit that he was nothing compared to the physical specimen he was when he fought Liston, or even after his layoff when he fought Frazier. He still had some hand speed, and his chin was holding up pretty good, but he was not the gazelle he used to be. I remember I thought Shaver was doing pretty well in this fight, at least for most of the rounds.
bigdatut 2 years ago
shavers looks like a big ass hagler lol
portilop 2 years ago 2
Shavers, the hardest puncher of all time maybe Louis a bit harder, and Shavers.. The Classiest fighter of all time. I am an Ali fan from way back and everytime I watch this fight I am not sure if Ali won it. Shavers said Ali did. He was there. I guess I have to take Earnies word for it
mfp508 2 years ago
Proof that a great chin almost always beats a great punch.
PMOZZ 2 years ago
I think that Ali was one of the most mentally prepared fighters ever.
rodfpuncher 2 years ago 19
@rodfpuncher
I tihnk Ali is the best heavyweight boxer ever and yet he was still so calm and easy going.
hbk711x 9 months ago
can't believe ali survived BOTH 8:24 and 9:44.
any other fighter would've gotten floored easy from either of those.
rsuriyop 2 years ago
Ali is one of the best fighters of all time to take hard punches.
regismo 2 years ago
Those SAME SHOTS decked Larry Holmes 2 years later.Ali was Ali.....the best i've ever seen.The speed Ali still had in his jabs this late in his career was unreal.Whats mind boggling is Ali punch speed was about half of what it was when he was prime 64-1967.Unreal for a heavy weight
teleman84 2 years ago
Very true. His speed was incredible, legs and hands.
WBCHWCHAMPION 2 years ago
Yeah, he truly was something else...in a class a cut above everyone else
teleman84 2 years ago
What a chin!
saintcasper91 2 years ago
best round ever i seen!what a power shaver has in his punches!incredible!
supralee 2 years ago
9:43 ....he caught Ali pretty good there and was clocking him til the end of the round
ReeseMac 2 years ago
ali's great chin won him this fight
willis7319 2 years ago
Henry Cooper says Ali sustained injuries through too many blows to the back of the head. Dead brain cells....
T3rminat0r2012 2 years ago
Shavers should have been a bit more agressive on the 2nd round. He got chance to knock ali.
toox 2 years ago 2
How can't you see Shavers is in his prime and Ali is almost worn out, yet Ali recuperate better then any of best boxers so fast and hold on all those punches from hardest puncher of all times Shavers.
That's how BIG Ali is, any other heavyweight would just kiss the floor after those punches or even worse ''no-brain" heavyweights would just run in another punch while Ali is smart and pulls back to recuperate and survive till he gets a grip and won him on points. He is smart, fast, strong G.O.A.T.
nemanjaarsic1 2 years ago
Maybe he is the greatest all time in the heavyweight category, but the best boxer pound for pound is Sugar Ray Robinson, no doubt.
toox 2 years ago 10
@toox that makes jake lamotta one tough sonuvabitch.
rediculousnicholas 1 year ago
@toox definitely, the man won almost 200 fights in his career wich is unbelievable
EVHfan5001 1 year ago
@EVHfan5001 it's not that impressive i mean in the old days they schedule a fight every week si it's easy if you got the heart to fight all of them fights but still robinson was great and 176 fights won on his legacy gave him his place in the greatests boxers rank
MrIronval 1 year ago
@toox they created that award for him so...yeah.
om1324354657687980 1 year ago
@toox but if sugar ray was a heavyweight with the same qualities he would lose against ali because everybody knows that sugars hands were quick and combos were nice but he is one of the easiest boxers to hit
alotofshots 1 year ago
@toox Indeed, Sugar Ray Robinson, the man has 200 total fights, 173 wins, 19 loses, fought in lightweight all the way to light heavy weight.
StarCherryDip101 1 year ago
@toox
no best p4p is still ali....the goat fought far greater opponents
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@toox No Sir,Julio Cesar Chaves....no doubt!!!..not to mention little Ricardo Lopez!!
onlyjoetee 1 year ago
goat? lol
zonkov88 2 years ago
look at the acorn.
toox 2 years ago
Larry Holmes recently stated that it was this fight that did the real damage to Ali's brain. Those punches he took in the second round would knock any other heavyweight out. He looks slow and old in this fight, but his class and ringcraft is supreme. Thank you boxingatitsbest for posting this classic fight.
frank19593 2 years ago 2
what a stupid statement. Ali has a desease not because of a injury by the boxing.
dorull83 2 years ago
Ali's disease was caused by numerous blows to the head.
capablemachine 2 years ago 2
Ali was the greatest because quite simply, he beat the best some of the best fighers of all time! Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Liston, Lyle, Shavers, etc....
romienomie 2 years ago
Frazier and Northon beat Ali as well and Foreman only had one shot at Ali.
capablemachine 2 years ago
Damn. Poor Earnie probably hurt his fist on Ali's face.
2242bzo 2 years ago
Such a shame and tragedy that Ali took so many heavy blows to his head during this match. Yes he earned a lot of money and was immensely popular, but honestly he should have retired after Manila.
Brandoni73 2 years ago 3
man, its upsetting to see ali like this. Man, he should have hung up his gloves a long time ago and maybe would've been as illustrious outside the ring after his retirement.
reyaadkhan 2 years ago 3
I think this fight really took a tole on Ali. Had Ali fought Shavers when he was younger, it would have been a tough fight, but Ali wouldn't have got hit as much. THis fight causd alot damage. Ali became incredibly likeable and popular toward the end of his career. He started to lose that 'malace'.
mmcneil777 2 years ago 2
Ali`should`have`never`taken`this`fight..Shavers`hit`him
too`many`hard`shots...Ali`didnt`have`the`sense`to`go
down..which`is`what`he`should`have`done`in`the`second
round..heck`with`the`win..Ernie`hit`too`hard..foolish
pride..
pakee64 2 years ago
Muhammad Ali once said in the late 80's as a guest on The Arsenio Hall show that Earnie Shavers without a doubt hit him harder than any boxer that he ever faced in his career. I watched the show, I heard him personally make the comment.
GBeret83 2 years ago 2
Only Problem With That Was George Foreman Never Did Get The Chance To Bang Him On The Chin Like Shavers Did
OnlineBoxingPromos 2 years ago
The punches ali took in this fight went a long way towards making him the diaper wearing retard he is today. Boxing, the sweet science, is the most brutal sport out there in the long run.
victimofcheese 2 years ago
you obviously haven't watched any MMA matches which usually tend to be more brutal, really unfair statement you're making there
JV246 2 years ago
@JV246 Learn to read and comprehend before replying. Boxing is the more brutal sport because over the long run it causes major medican conditions and damage. MMA fights are over quicker and a guy doesn't take shots to the head for 15 rounds over 20 years of fighting.
victimofcheese 2 years ago
nah MMA is more brutal.
if some boxing fans think it's a + to be the more brutal sport, they should leave boxing and go to therapy.
fifagutten 2 years ago
about 50-60 people die a year from professional boxing, about 0 fighters die a year from MMA....
try to tell me MMA is more brutal... moron
HolyJeebus69 2 years ago
LOL wtf are you talking about? 50-60 pro boxers die every year?? name 5 that died last year.. if you cant name 1.
fifagutten 2 years ago
My job is not to inform the illinformed , go search google yourself .. Look up "boxers deaths" , then come back and try to justify your argument
HolyJeebus69 2 years ago
lol wtf. why not just give me a source? i know what you're saying is wrong anyway... you are a stupid guy and im pretty sure you are retarded or under the age of 10 if you believe that 50 PRO BOXERS DIE EACH YEAR. people like you shouldn't be allowed to comment on the internet
fifagutten 2 years ago
50-60 deaths lmao. idiot. almost every boxing death will make one of the boxing news media that i frequently read and I can only think one death that happened last year. if 50-60 people died a year from boxing the sport woulda been banned a long time ago.
IceveinsProductions 2 years ago
actually no, many boxers die, google dont lie, mma is brutal at like 5 match range, but like +30 matches or more (long range) from that on boxing is more brutal
sisasiistisipuli 2 years ago
well you blaitently havent watch many mma fight then mate.
jayman45484 2 years ago