I don't see what the big deal is. Many people from all walks of life use hand gestures when they speak. Isn't this common sense? Didn't anyone notice prior to this video? "Look everybody, the sky is blue!..." ..."OMG! You're right! It is blue! It's so interesting how the sky is blue."
@Dellvin99 - yes... I started in the computer industry in 1978, about a year after Apple began, and a few years before Microsoft landed the deal with IBM to put MS-DOS (Disk Operating System) on the first IBM PCs. Gates initially was selling a software package called Microsoft BASIC (programming language) developed at Harvard before he dropped out, then built an operating system to comperte with Digital Research's CPM system.... that was a long time ago... when the "baby" was born :)
@thebookofjoy the perspective of gestures should be from how the audience (even a person opposite you) sees---say you were explaining to a friend that you flew from NY to CA, and you held up your hands to show the locations on an imaginary map --- from your perspective, your right hand would show NY, your left hand CA --- but your actions are meant to benefit ANOTHER --- to that person, you may be showing WA to FL.
In speaking, we always try to respect the audience perspective.
@TMucci I'm aware of your stand. Assuming he did it your way was not the only possibility, in fact it's less probable.
He was most probably just talking through his perspective since the direction of hand gestures weren't an important point i.e. " there's something on your left cheek, Oh no I mean your right cheek" etc. This direction of timeline isn't as important as NY to CA or WA to FL.
In other words, I think your assumption was wrong. This would be differente were it a speech/presentation.
@thebookofjoy - Good points! I agree that the probability of gesturing for the viewer's benefit is lower, which is why it requires awareness. Surely one can decide if the issue really matters. You suggest that a presentation or a speech is "different" --- yet, those formats carry the same intent as an interview (press conference, talk show, panel discussion), --- they are all meant for "public consumption", which qualifies them as "prepared content" managed by useable skills.
@alanlarson42 the point is that when speaking in public, our actions add value but can sometimes may be misinterpreted, especially from an audience perspective. This video is simply an example of the body language used during an interview. The characters (Gates/Rose) are larger than life, so their reputations do not hinge on their performances. However, we can learn from them. Hopefully, this helps those who may find public speaking a challenge.
@sclytrack - nearly everyone expresses themselves with their hands, even an infant reaches out to show "want". There are people on cell phones that move their hands while speaking to express emotion. In normal conversation, the hands may just move with a person's energy. But in a learning or persuasive situation, the abiltiy to use visual cues (like gestures) effectively, can change the level of engagement dramatically. There is extensive research on non-verbal communication.
@OutyMan - LOL - I am not sure which is funnier --- the boredom caused by my intentionally slow-paced delivery for ESL viewers --- or the fact that you are up at 3am attempting to watch this :)
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@SixFootTallMidget afraid of what thinking? why should i think about gay people fucking eachother while theyll never be able to produce a baby like that? why are they infecting themself with the hi virus more often? do you think being gay means being more educated? if so wtf does "yes live, they way they taught you" mean? and which football or finger fucking? and who taught me what? you are a quite dumb sissy if you ask me.
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@conkersbadfurdaywar Maybe you should start? nothing new that it's more intresting to listen to someone who "talks" with his hands compared to someone who doesn't.
@Gutsyndicate - while they are wearing slightly different sweaters and collared dress shirts, to the general public they are, as you note, dressed very similarly. Upon closer inspection, Gate's sweater has a different collar type, and is a different color (lighter). Their shirts have slightly different collar buttons and appear to be different pastel shades, a well.
@Rayster84 - your first comment is reflective of the uninformed, and supported by your RIP to a man still living. It was Steve Jobs from Apple who passed. They are different people. Neither are fake, nor gay.
@CleverDjembe - I wonder if anyone else has ever used that phrase on the internet? I can see where you get your orginality Very "clever, dumb-jim-be" or should it read as "is"?
@CleverDjembe Lol, hes not staging something. Hes just observing and analysing a conversation between two people the way he sees it. "fake and gay"? idiot
@hemaniguaz - you may be thinking of Steve Jobs from Apple as they are both industry icons. It was Jobs who passed away recently and yes, he will be missed.
Very interesting and educational. I was imagining how the narrator was moving his hands while doing this video. Venting himself, going up and down with his arms, making circles with his right index finger, exaggerated lips movement plus the turtle head move side to side. Touching his hair and rips. Sorry I have very vivid imagination.
Interesting video. I disagree with the timeline observations, I had no problem at all following the timeline the way Gates gestured it. It might have felt weird if he had done it the other way around , then I might have thought: "does he imagine timelines opposite to the way I do?" or "Is he gesturing the timeline for me?"
@slipperydippery - excellent observation. You can easily understand his meaning, but the video is used to enhance the development of a skill. If a support image (a slide facing us) depicts a timeline "left-to-right" for a viewer, then a speaker demonstrating the timeline using the hands should be as consistent. Imagine if instead of a timeline, Mr. Gates used his hands to identify the states of Washington & Florida. From his perspective, his map locations would appear to us as NY & California.
I would not expect the left hand to signify the future at all ....because this is television; and therefore everything is displayed in reverse, only in cinema do you correct the optical reversal. Sheesh; I thought everybody knew that.
@temporaldisplacement - timelines existed well before TV as a means of chronolology. The Charlie Rose show includes a live audience. Are they observing something opposite? Using your TV "in reverse" logic, would mean that Hank Aaron was a right-handed batter on TV, but a lefty to those at the stadium. The Oath of Office would not match the Chief Justice's request of "raise your right hand", and to those in working on the set of the weather channel, New York is really located on the West Coast.
So, what is the problem. I just see two people talking or interviewing if you will on a subject. You can "see" whatever you want but narrator observations on the video seems to be quite idiotic, no offense.
@perlaand - Thank you. Yes, two people are talking. But the focus of this review is on the nonverbal cues, not the discussion. Interviews are considered "prepared speech, where nonverbal cues (body language elements) carry meaning. There is substantial research on this topic. However, to the less informed, or less skilled, this narration will certainly appear "quite idiotic", and in your opinion, I am sure you are correct.
@b0ris360 - yes, one of the challenges to making an internationally available clip is to respect those who have English as a second language or those who process the language less fluently. I agree the with you that the vocal tones have a slower pace, but the good news is that even with your lobotomy experience I am happy that I can speak at a speed that you can understand.
@dwilmer7 Very enlightening! Thank you! Because my preferences are different from yours, I do not relate to what "completely gay" sounds like, but you certainly do have an ear for such a vocal inflection. I am glad that my voice appeals to your diversity and I celebrate the pride you show in your lifestyle choice (not that there's anything wrong with that).
@temporaldisplacement - the response to dwilmer's comment was not derogatory, meant to address his prejudice with a like-kind empathy to counter his disparaging remark. I am sure that in your opinion you are correct, although your support for dwilmer's narrowminded comparison is very disappointing to those who feel such stereotyping is inappropriate and adds no value to this forum.
@temporaldisplacement - the response to dwilmer's comment was not derogatory; rather, meant to address his prejudice with a like-kind empathy to counter his disparaging remark. I am sure that in your opinion you are correct, although your support for dwilmer's narrowminded comparison is very disappointing to those who feel such stereotyping is inappropriate and adds no value to this forum.
@TMucci Monotone voices have become synonymous with homosexuals ....his comment came across prejudicial only to the narrow minded. What you didn't like was the word gay, well to para-phrase ...suck-it-up.
@temporaldisplacement - "monotone voices" are a function of the male anatomy regardless of sexual preference. Please read the literature on the larynx, vocal folds and diaphragm to see how the genders differ in timbre, inflection, softness and tonal quality. Your unsupported assertions are without merit.
@temporaldisplacement - the response to dwilmer's comment was not derogatory; rather, meant to address his prejudice with a like-kind empathy to counter his disparaging remark. I am sure that in your opinion you are correct, although your support for dwilmer's narrowminded comparison is very disappointing to those who feel such stereotyping is inappropriate and adds no value to this forum.
Actually, you are correct. Observing body language is very basic. Listening to words is also easy. But words and actions sometimes combine to form an "impression". So, if you say the word "yes" --- but move your head side-to-side it may be interpreted as "no'. If you say the word "one", but hold up two fingers, it might seem confusing.
Thanks for this great video. I found it fascinating and learned more about these meta communications in NLP. This makes me want to take out a camera and record myself during an interaction with someone to see not only how I'm communicating but where my virtual space, past, present, future is. Very cool!
Thanks for your comments. Your idea of using a video will increase your awareness of certain actions, even though you will be evaluating yourself after the fact. Yet, self-assessment, regardless of when it is done, is a useful form of feedback.
I don't see what the big deal is. Many people from all walks of life use hand gestures when they speak. Isn't this common sense? Didn't anyone notice prior to this video? "Look everybody, the sky is blue!..." ..."OMG! You're right! It is blue! It's so interesting how the sky is blue."
SongsThatRule 3 days ago
Microsoft went down hill when Bill Gates had to step down. That was like him having to give up his baby!!
Dellvin99 3 weeks ago
@Dellvin99 - yes... I started in the computer industry in 1978, about a year after Apple began, and a few years before Microsoft landed the deal with IBM to put MS-DOS (Disk Operating System) on the first IBM PCs. Gates initially was selling a software package called Microsoft BASIC (programming language) developed at Harvard before he dropped out, then built an operating system to comperte with Digital Research's CPM system.... that was a long time ago... when the "baby" was born :)
TMucci 2 weeks ago
he's just using left and right from his own perspective ...................
left hand = past ; right hand = future, I don't see the discrepancy ..........
thebookofjoy 3 weeks ago
@thebookofjoy the perspective of gestures should be from how the audience (even a person opposite you) sees---say you were explaining to a friend that you flew from NY to CA, and you held up your hands to show the locations on an imaginary map --- from your perspective, your right hand would show NY, your left hand CA --- but your actions are meant to benefit ANOTHER --- to that person, you may be showing WA to FL.
In speaking, we always try to respect the audience perspective.
TMucci 2 weeks ago
@TMucci I'm aware of your stand. Assuming he did it your way was not the only possibility, in fact it's less probable.
He was most probably just talking through his perspective since the direction of hand gestures weren't an important point i.e. " there's something on your left cheek, Oh no I mean your right cheek" etc. This direction of timeline isn't as important as NY to CA or WA to FL.
In other words, I think your assumption was wrong. This would be differente were it a speech/presentation.
thebookofjoy 2 weeks ago
@thebookofjoy - Good points! I agree that the probability of gesturing for the viewer's benefit is lower, which is why it requires awareness. Surely one can decide if the issue really matters. You suggest that a presentation or a speech is "different" --- yet, those formats carry the same intent as an interview (press conference, talk show, panel discussion), --- they are all meant for "public consumption", which qualifies them as "prepared content" managed by useable skills.
TMucci 2 weeks ago
@TMucci that'll be more likely if the whole interview is prepared... though I don't know whether it is or isn't
thebookofjoy 1 day ago
WHAT IS YOUR POINT?!
alanlarson42 4 weeks ago
@alanlarson42 the point is that when speaking in public, our actions add value but can sometimes may be misinterpreted, especially from an audience perspective. This video is simply an example of the body language used during an interview. The characters (Gates/Rose) are larger than life, so their reputations do not hinge on their performances. However, we can learn from them. Hopefully, this helps those who may find public speaking a challenge.
TMucci 2 weeks ago
Very interesting using hands in virtual space to express a timeline. Do other people do this too? I'll pay closer attention to head nodding too.
sclytrack 4 weeks ago
@sclytrack - nearly everyone expresses themselves with their hands, even an infant reaches out to show "want". There are people on cell phones that move their hands while speaking to express emotion. In normal conversation, the hands may just move with a person's energy. But in a learning or persuasive situation, the abiltiy to use visual cues (like gestures) effectively, can change the level of engagement dramatically. There is extensive research on non-verbal communication.
TMucci 2 weeks ago
lame fucking vid
sinnersaintstudios 1 month ago
Bill Gates is funny, cool guy.
needcooling 1 month ago
It's 2:48. I am now about to fall asleep due to video hypnosis and am bailing out of this video.
OutyMan 1 month ago
@OutyMan - LOL - I am not sure which is funnier --- the boredom caused by my intentionally slow-paced delivery for ESL viewers --- or the fact that you are up at 3am attempting to watch this :)
TMucci 2 weeks ago
Bill is hilarious!
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@SixFootTallMidget afraid of what thinking? why should i think about gay people fucking eachother while theyll never be able to produce a baby like that? why are they infecting themself with the hi virus more often? do you think being gay means being more educated? if so wtf does "yes live, they way they taught you" mean? and which football or finger fucking? and who taught me what? you are a quite dumb sissy if you ask me.
consumoholic 1 month ago
i kinda get the feeling of getting gay while watching and really listening to this. hence i stopped it, started nice music and do the fuck i was doing before to remain hetero. cya gays! i mean guys
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Gaprielll 2 months ago
@Gaprielll - yes, excellent observation!
TMucci 2 months ago
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billytalent1fan24 2 months ago
I don't move my hands at all when I talk.
conkersbadfurdaywar 2 months ago
@conkersbadfurdaywar Maybe you should start? nothing new that it's more intresting to listen to someone who "talks" with his hands compared to someone who doesn't.
trapedd 2 months ago
this seems like a tim and eric sketch
modshroom 3 months ago
@modshroom - yes, Tim Heidecker and Eric Wareheim can likely have fun with this discusson, I bet :)
TMucci 2 months ago
@modshroom hahah for sure
djbilingual 1 month ago
do you also thought about that they wearing the same shirts and sweaters.
Gutsyndicate 3 months ago
@Gutsyndicate - while they are wearing slightly different sweaters and collared dress shirts, to the general public they are, as you note, dressed very similarly. Upon closer inspection, Gate's sweater has a different collar type, and is a different color (lighter). Their shirts have slightly different collar buttons and appear to be different pastel shades, a well.
TMucci 2 months ago
fake and gay. Rest in Peace Bill GAtes. You were true to me and the world
Rayster84 3 months ago
@Rayster84 - your first comment is reflective of the uninformed, and supported by your RIP to a man still living. It was Steve Jobs from Apple who passed. They are different people. Neither are fake, nor gay.
TMucci 2 months ago
fake and gay
CleverDjembe 3 months ago
@CleverDjembe - I wonder if anyone else has ever used that phrase on the internet? I can see where you get your orginality Very "clever, dumb-jim-be" or should it read as "is"?
TMucci 2 months ago 3
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CleverDjembe 2 months ago
@CleverDjembe Lol, hes not staging something. Hes just observing and analysing a conversation between two people the way he sees it. "fake and gay"? idiot
ingram182 1 month ago
@hemaniguaz Lol, Bill Gates is still alive, Steve Jobs of Apple is the one who died...
avramenkoable 3 months ago 3
@hemaniguaz - you may be thinking of Steve Jobs from Apple as they are both industry icons. It was Jobs who passed away recently and yes, he will be missed.
TMucci 4 months ago 12
Very interesting and educational. I was imagining how the narrator was moving his hands while doing this video. Venting himself, going up and down with his arms, making circles with his right index finger, exaggerated lips movement plus the turtle head move side to side. Touching his hair and rips. Sorry I have very vivid imagination.
RonaldBarone 4 months ago 3
@RonaldBarone - yes, you do have a vivid imagination :)
TMucci 4 months ago
very cool!
xtrmsprts 4 months ago
Interesting video. I disagree with the timeline observations, I had no problem at all following the timeline the way Gates gestured it. It might have felt weird if he had done it the other way around , then I might have thought: "does he imagine timelines opposite to the way I do?" or "Is he gesturing the timeline for me?"
slipperydippery 5 months ago 8
@slipperydippery - excellent observation. You can easily understand his meaning, but the video is used to enhance the development of a skill. If a support image (a slide facing us) depicts a timeline "left-to-right" for a viewer, then a speaker demonstrating the timeline using the hands should be as consistent. Imagine if instead of a timeline, Mr. Gates used his hands to identify the states of Washington & Florida. From his perspective, his map locations would appear to us as NY & California.
TMucci 5 months ago
I would not expect the left hand to signify the future at all ....because this is television; and therefore everything is displayed in reverse, only in cinema do you correct the optical reversal. Sheesh; I thought everybody knew that.
temporaldisplacement 5 months ago
@temporaldisplacement - timelines existed well before TV as a means of chronolology. The Charlie Rose show includes a live audience. Are they observing something opposite? Using your TV "in reverse" logic, would mean that Hank Aaron was a right-handed batter on TV, but a lefty to those at the stadium. The Oath of Office would not match the Chief Justice's request of "raise your right hand", and to those in working on the set of the weather channel, New York is really located on the West Coast.
TMucci 5 months ago
@TMucci Go to your nearest television recording studio and talk to them about it.
temporaldisplacement 5 months ago
Thank you so much glad i found this!!!!!
EndureFocusEngageDie 6 months ago
So, what is the problem. I just see two people talking or interviewing if you will on a subject. You can "see" whatever you want but narrator observations on the video seems to be quite idiotic, no offense.
perlaand 6 months ago
@perlaand - Thank you. Yes, two people are talking. But the focus of this review is on the nonverbal cues, not the discussion. Interviews are considered "prepared speech, where nonverbal cues (body language elements) carry meaning. There is substantial research on this topic. However, to the less informed, or less skilled, this narration will certainly appear "quite idiotic", and in your opinion, I am sure you are correct.
TMucci 6 months ago
Narrator sounds like he's had a lobotomy!
b0ris360 8 months ago 34
@b0ris360 - yes, one of the challenges to making an internationally available clip is to respect those who have English as a second language or those who process the language less fluently. I agree the with you that the vocal tones have a slower pace, but the good news is that even with your lobotomy experience I am happy that I can speak at a speed that you can understand.
TMucci 8 months ago
This is so interesting, and it is super helpful when it's slowed down in some areas so we can see.
Pinkalicious112 9 months ago
great video, great ifo, but the background music is very distracting. at least to me it was.
a206dreamer 9 months ago
this is interesting...but wow this narrator sounds completely gay. (not that theres anything wrong with that)
dwilmer7 11 months ago
@dwilmer7 Very enlightening! Thank you! Because my preferences are different from yours, I do not relate to what "completely gay" sounds like, but you certainly do have an ear for such a vocal inflection. I am glad that my voice appeals to your diversity and I celebrate the pride you show in your lifestyle choice (not that there's anything wrong with that).
TMucci 10 months ago 7
@TMucci You are being equally glib and condecending and in fact evidently it is you who has used 'gay' to mean something derogatory.
temporaldisplacement 5 months ago
@temporaldisplacement - the response to dwilmer's comment was not derogatory, meant to address his prejudice with a like-kind empathy to counter his disparaging remark. I am sure that in your opinion you are correct, although your support for dwilmer's narrowminded comparison is very disappointing to those who feel such stereotyping is inappropriate and adds no value to this forum.
TMucci 5 months ago
@temporaldisplacement - the response to dwilmer's comment was not derogatory; rather, meant to address his prejudice with a like-kind empathy to counter his disparaging remark. I am sure that in your opinion you are correct, although your support for dwilmer's narrowminded comparison is very disappointing to those who feel such stereotyping is inappropriate and adds no value to this forum.
TMucci 5 months ago
@TMucci Monotone voices have become synonymous with homosexuals ....his comment came across prejudicial only to the narrow minded. What you didn't like was the word gay, well to para-phrase ...suck-it-up.
temporaldisplacement 5 months ago
@temporaldisplacement - "monotone voices" are a function of the male anatomy regardless of sexual preference. Please read the literature on the larynx, vocal folds and diaphragm to see how the genders differ in timbre, inflection, softness and tonal quality. Your unsupported assertions are without merit.
TMucci 5 months ago 2
@TMucci Really: watch?v=smOmn1s9WCI
temporaldisplacement 5 months ago
@temporaldisplacement - submit peer reviewed data only, not individual opinion or conjecture. sorry...
TMucci 5 months ago 2
@TMucci Coward.
temporaldisplacement 5 months ago
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DigiTan000 4 months ago
@DigiTan000 Your opinion is flawed.
temporaldisplacement 4 months ago
@temporaldisplacement - the response to dwilmer's comment was not derogatory; rather, meant to address his prejudice with a like-kind empathy to counter his disparaging remark. I am sure that in your opinion you are correct, although your support for dwilmer's narrowminded comparison is very disappointing to those who feel such stereotyping is inappropriate and adds no value to this forum.
TMucci 5 months ago
Great video. It shows you some very interesting and useful facts, and they are very much available to apply to everyday situations as well!
22utuber22 11 months ago
Actually, you are correct. Observing body language is very basic. Listening to words is also easy. But words and actions sometimes combine to form an "impression". So, if you say the word "yes" --- but move your head side-to-side it may be interpreted as "no'. If you say the word "one", but hold up two fingers, it might seem confusing.
TMucci 1 year ago
is that it? its really basic.. WQhat is it you just listen to words?...
HowStanDenis 1 year ago
Thanks for this great video. I found it fascinating and learned more about these meta communications in NLP. This makes me want to take out a camera and record myself during an interaction with someone to see not only how I'm communicating but where my virtual space, past, present, future is. Very cool!
RahkmanX 1 year ago
@RahkmanX
Thanks for your comments. Your idea of using a video will increase your awareness of certain actions, even though you will be evaluating yourself after the fact. Yet, self-assessment, regardless of when it is done, is a useful form of feedback.
TMucci 1 year ago