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You gotta create a church that raises kids, catching them while they're young and passing them through the formative years of their lives in a single place: Saddleback. Then you can define maturity in terms of belief in a 2000 year old cult leader.
Apostles - "We wouldn't leave you, lord, we have no place to go."
Jesus - "Alright, come follow me, the lemming king!"
theseanze 2 years ago