Pere Ubu - Final Solution

[WINFIELD32750]

The cutoff at 2:28 with the nuclear destruction line was most definitely taken by the strokes at the end of "ize of the world" at the line cities to vaporize, directly after cities to vaporize, its way too much of a coincidence

[LilMonkeyDill]

pere ubu is one of the few artists who can stretch beyond punks limitations. if you know anybody who doubts punks talent you should send them a copy of this, what a fucking scorcher!

[ZacheryAllanStarkey]

Pere Ubu makes me proud to be from Ohio. I grew up in Columbus, and before I moved to NYC I used to perform in Cleveland all the time (it still has a great music scene). We used to playa t the Pirates Cove and I always felt honored, playing the same stage that Pere Ubu had.

[Malkmusianful]

The only band where a tone-deaf singer can actually fit in very well and still sound amazing.

[barlnerschnotzki]

Great tune - anyone else pick up on the musical quotation of Hawkwind? (the second half: the "whooo-whoo-ooo-ooo" part.

[emiliano2500]

Incredible...

[lumpo50]

Pere Ubu is great. This song however I know from a band called ,,the Honolulu Mountain Daffodils. Check it out on you-tube!~!

[thomaspeakanarca]

Capolavoro!!!!

[Ghoopty]

I've read about this song for a while, and hearing it for the first time tonight, can agree that it is fucking great.

[jocksilver7]

...and thank god they've remained something beyond the pidgeonholing sleepy walls of definition. As I lived across the pond, my first impressions of them came with DubHousing, just later getting in hindsight touch with the modern dance.. anyway, it was mental revolution all the same. America's anti-pre-post-modern most well hidden secret for the world to discover...and counting... they're like a prankst cenotaph to the unknown modern rock hero.

[MONSTERGIANNETZ]

..and of course...Davis is the MAGUS

[MONSTERGIANNETZ]

..this was the solution of peter..

ubu forever

[kedgwell]

1976 -- wow.



[boggedmaffus]

One of the only songs ever that speaks to me lyrically... haha

[DanGoguen]

speaking as a child of the 90s, i was amazed at how ahead of their time this band was, when i first heard them.

[sherpa285]

Cleveland, pre-Drew Carey.

[PostPunkFan]

Awe-some!

[neurogami]

Pere Ubu rules. Like the Velvets, they've been a monster influence but have never gotten the sales or radio play they deserve.

[DudeDudi]

Tjejerna är borta, jag är OINSPIRERAD

[tkatfun]

Perfect song for one's mood!!

[2Beautiful2c]

4 people need a drug or a final solution? I'm like #389. Hearthan 7" released 3/1976. I drove friend Simon (Kirk D) Agree to record stores (1975-1977) 'n listened to what he played, He had "30 Seconds Over Tokyo" so I taped all 4 sides, late '76/early '77, Final went straight to #1 on my top 45 (I used 90 minute cassettes, 45 minutes a side). Datapanik 10/4/78 for $3.69 then fell into the "Heart of Darkness" that was the 80s, My Dark Ages of poverty in Phoenix. Modern Dance LP 2/20/88 for $2.99.

[MONSTERGIANNETZ]

THIS IS THE REAL SYNTHESIS OF PUNK

[Johnnystrychnine]

Not much great music like this anymore. Very dark.

[itnow]

sounds like grunge well before grunge is dated from

[borgorusky]

Giant song!

[daydreamset]

2 people need a drug.

[purpkitty]

this song IS my solution.

[antsorter]

loving the krautrock-esque rhythm in this song

pere ubu without end

[cementbug]

My favorite piece of music: dense, throbbing, intense, so much sound in such a small space, the best guitar solo ever! David is as always, at the top of form, vocally and lyrically. One of the first songs my kids remember me shaking the house with: stereo cranked full: damn the neighbors!

[helenmyork]

I was there in Cleveland when Pere Ubu first started playing around town...down in the flats, weird gigs here and there. I had been in some abortively quick-to-die bands with Peter Laughner, but all I knew about David Thomas was that he had been a bouncer/doorman at the Viking Saloon over by the Cleveland State Campus, and we all called him "Crocus Behemoth". Back then, I prefered Peter's Bands, Cinderella Backstreet, The Wolves, even his Blues Band, The Blue Drivers to UBU...

[Knepperify1]

@helenmyork

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Pay attention, kids. This is how oral history gets transmitted these days.

[denmarst]

I felt that way back in High School in 1976 too!

[indegruv]

@denmarst yeah? and then what? You "grew up" I gather?  Went and sold out to "the man" ? Yeah, we get it.

[MONSTERGIANNETZ]

I have the chills

[Megajosh2]

If you ever get bullied, just listen to THIS!

[GuyRorschach]

I need bass tabs for this song so bad man!

[joakimakajocke]

Great song. Great cover on youtube: "Bob Hund - Ett fall och en lösning"

[LBJstevenash13]

@movieonyoureyelids Yeah! Dude howd you know their names? But yeah they were both in the band for a few years.

[smashmansnake]

WHY HAVE I NOT HEARD OF THIS SONG OR THIS BAND?????

[THEkendarkness]

@smashmansnake No excuses my friend.

[lobotomyboy666]

I like the reference to the Dead Boy's "Sonic Reducer."

[drakenhoff]

@lobotomyboy666

Sonic Reducer was actually originally written and performed by Rocket From The Tombs which was the band which split both into Pere Ubu and The Dead Boys.

Both versions rocked though :)

[lobotomyboy666]

@drakenhoff thanks for the info. I knew that Sonic Reducer had been written before RFTT became the Dead Boys (but I'd forgotten that), but I didn't realize that Pere Ubu also rose from the RFTT ashes. I'm going to have to learn more about this band.

[stupididiot13]

how about this band ...the baloney heads!!!!!!

[LBJstevenash13]

Haha my dad and my uncle were both in Pere Ubu

[TheYounggiants13]

@LBJstevenash13 i feel like thats bullshit but if it's true that's amazing. feel honored dude. 

[LBJstevenash13]

@TheYounggiants13 Well you can believe it or not. They were in the band from about maybe 78 to 80.

[MrAClawson]

@LBJstevenash13 Morgan?

[LBJstevenash13]

@MrAClawson yep

[friendlier]

@kiely Sure, Wild Giraffes, Easter Monkeys, Pagans, X_X, Tender Buttons. I never saw the Action, though. How about all the way back to the Electric Eels, Mirrors, ore even Cinderella Backstreet which featured Peter Laughner and Chrissie Hynde for a minute.

[tb367005]

thieveland

[Mronesummer]

Right

[niktemadur]

In a word: Spectacular.

[orpancho]

excelente :)

[notchic]

Great tune from a greatly under appreciated band. Thanks for the up!

[Smythcycle]

Long live the net...this is a great band.

[ElvisTrivelin]

De repente, lembrei-me do mestre do post-punk. Sempre bom voltar a ouvir o gordão, mas é mais interessante (e cômico) ver suas apresentações - sempre um show a parte.

[starlight68100]

Been looking for 30 Seconds Over Tokyo but can't find it....

Anyone?

[tom77092]

@starlight68100 You will find it on the Pere Ubu 'Terminal Tower' compilation, along with this track and a bunch of others. Should be able to get it from iTunes or Amazon no problem.

[donaldnewmanmedone]

@starlight68100 let me know if you find it  was one of my old favorites, too

[friendlier]

I lived in Cleveland '77-'78 and was smart enough at 23 years old to spend most Thursday nights at a dive bar in the Flats called the Pirate's Cove. Thursdays were Ubu's night there. They always played and would have a guest band (Destroy All Monsters, DEVO). They were recording The Modern Dance then, so you can imagine how brilliant they were. You'd expect them to play this song for an encore, but much of the time they ignored it altogether and would instead do Sloop John B of all things.

[donaldnewmanmedone]

@friendlier Holy Crap That's better than my tale "bout seeing the MC5 in Ann Arbor in 72. Well, almost...

[kiely]

@friendlier

do you also remember seeing The Giraffes? The Action? Easter Monkeys?

[RickyPollo]

"Of all things?" Come on, Sloop John B is a GREAT song to cover, especially cos it's the worst trip they've ever been on! :)

I used to spend my Thursdays going to see Kreamy 'Lectric Santa and the Laundry Room Squelchers at Churchill's in Miami. But I can't brag about them (yet).

Now I'll retire to be alone with my envious thoughts.

[Knepperify1]

@friendlier

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Truly awesome. How many people were there? 20? 40? All scenes start off with 8-14 people, the ideal number for a hunter-gatherer clan of humans, btw. London, 1976, Liverpool, 1962, New York City, 1944, Cleveland, 1974, New York, 1975, Washington, DC 1980. 12 people, give or take.

[Bollezza]

great!

[burzumsodomkreator]

my friends dad was one of the original guitarists....

[philmia123]

Yes, I'd agree this one's right up there on the greatest songs of all time list. Seen the band twice in Minneapolis-both shows were excellent!

[derekthomas005]

I saw Pere Ubu in Glasgow alongside Delta Fives and U2. Think it was a joint bill. I prefered Pere Ubu, but most came for Bono's gang

[chh5555]

I played bass in a new wave band in the 80s and we covered this song. A real gas to play and the lyrics are so great! Alot of morons think it's about concentration camps and such.. but no it isn't. We played a gig, opening for Pere Ubu at one of their hometown bars in Cleveland once. We debated before the gig if we should play this but we didn't, wish we had.

[alemmingsdeath]

I saw Pere Ubu open for Pixies in '91 and they played this song. Amazing!!

[fuckamericanidiot]

@alemmingsdeath lucky bastard! oh well at least i've seen the pixies, the best band i've ever seen live

[geminirat60]

eh' it's ok

[dannon2010]

.."seems I'm a victim of natural selection" Great freaking song.

[oHelmslyo]

This was recorded in 1975, but it sounds like it was recorded in 1979 during the post-punk thing. And even then, they still were the weirdest band around when their first full-lengths came out in 78-79! One of the most influential & unique rock bands of all time, and this to me is their most potent moment on record.

[shoeboy59]

A genuine flat out classic.

[cementbug]

absolutely the most amazing song ever, heard it as a senior in high school and it still stands the test of time. It changed how I heard everything; the beginning of a flood. The best guitar solo ever, must be played at MAXIMUM volume!

[telepaper1]

some bands standed out in those years...

Pere Ubu, king crimson...

[Solvinden]

Does someone have the lyrics? However, thanks for posting it! Lottie

[marcuskelson]

saw LCD sound system performing in Australia last weekend, and watching that brilliance threw me back here...

[ugmold]

Fukin Rocks Baby!

[FungusMossGnosis]

Sublime, and dougsha has a good-sounding live concert vid from last year that has Non-Alignment Pact, Final Solution, AND Cloud 149. I'd love it if someone posted the album version of Cloud 149.

[ElementaryPhysics]

"The girls won't touch me. Cos I've got a misdirection" - My Father loves that line

[niklnikl1]

One of my all time top ten bands

[BPCpresents]

For 1976 this sounds more contemporary than loads and loads of bands This is really fantastic!

[thenameslaurence]

I FUCKING LOVE THIS SONG, puts me in such a good mood when i skate.

[whitekuduone]

Incredible.

[matheusdoria]

It just can´t be made at 76...incredible!

[MrSKINFLICK]

@matheusdoria: IT WAS done in 76 !!!! And for parts of the rest of what happened back then visit my channel´s PLAYLISTS:

PUNK & the other NEW WAVE/EXPERIMENTAL AND the third ELECTRONICS 80s/90s. Best time on earth musically maybe. We LIVED ! and still do !

[Arrghhville]

Discovered this gem on a Compilation disc. This is, was and will forever be my teenage angst soundtrack number uno. I don't need a cure I need a Final Solution

[aussiexlguy]

I guess its one of those songs if you were around when it was realeased you would become a fan

[rkingscar]

Oh Yes.

[LeoMrTeach]

discovered them after beein destroyed by Joy Division in early '80. Great song! Great band!!

[inglesidecatamaran]

Mission of Burma was OBVIOUSLY listening to this song when writing "....revolver"! I fucking love Burma though, and they openly admit that Pere Ubu is a main influence. But hey, if you NEED to sound like anyone.......

[pxr62918]

I'm willing to bet some of the members listened to Hawkwind on acid.

[MrSKINFLICK]

@pxr62918 : ubu were - by admitting themselves in interviews in the late 70s more influenced by Can than a lot else....

Hawkwind on acid ????? hmmmm.........

[ronsonmicklover]

all the kings horses and all the kings men could not improve or put this one back to

SONIC PERFECTION again!!!! THE BEST LOST SONG ever made !!!! it stands to reason... sounds like god reading the miranda rights in person!!!

[DJQuips]

When I was like..around 12 years old, I went to the library and took out this Post-Punk compilation cd. This song was on it..it was definitely one of my favorites on the disc. Used to listen to this all the time..

[sherpa285]

@DJQuips

Cool library!

[thekrees]

amazing, still

YEAH!

[kickfostermac]

still sounds current 34 yrs later

[wizishere]

I just found out about this band going through a page called gnoosic, you type 3 favorite bands and it keeps suggesting other bands that you might also like.

This is one of the best bands I've heard, I don't think I ever want to listen to music on the radio again because it just can't compare to this.

[IsabelDhampir82]

Me encanta esta cancion, es bastante pegadiza, pero prefiero la version de PETER MURPHY.

[petercrowley41]

This perfect single was mixed by Tim Wright, who also played bass and some of the guitar on it. I included it on the Max's Kansas City 1976 compilation album. It can also be found on the Terminal Tower - An Archival Collection LP. Both of these records are also available on CD. A close listen to the lyrics reveals the fact that Crocus's Final Solution has absolutely nothing to do with The Holocaust.

[mrblue99]

@petercrowley41 david thomas has said he was reading a sherlock holmes story called the final problem and he thought if there's a final problem there must be a final solution.

and i first heard pere ubu in 1980 from the max's compilation. thanks.

[petercrowley41]

@mrblue99 - Thanks Mr. Blue... In case anyone's wondering, David Thomas went by the moniker, "Crocus Behemoth" during the time of the original (and finest) lineup of Pere Ubu.

[1234shuturmouth]

Does anyone have the tabs or even just the chords to this song? I'd love to learn it. Thanks a million to anyone that responds.

[m0de]

these guys were so far ahead of the game it's not even funny. respect!

[flvnow]

@m0de This and non-alignment pact, played very loud for a great deal of 1977.

Other fav at the time Wreckless Eric, go the whole wide world

[moonlily1]

@m0de absolutely. This song would not sound at all out of place if it were released today. And for it's time, it was radically original. I really can't believe this was released in the 70s; there really doesn't seem to be any point of reference at all for this type of music at that time.

[tazghettojungalist]

@m0de 1976... respect

[jazzand]

I'm looking at my original copy of the single as I write this (couldn't find a 45 spindle to play it so I was glad to find it here). I've also got "30 Seconds over Tokyo" (their 1st single?).

I knew Peter and played with him at least once back then. Last time I saw him was at the Pirate's Cove (Later called Peabody's Downunder) in the Flats. He never really "got" why I wanted to play jazz (think that was our last conversation before he died).

[rkingscar]

yes.

[Kohntarkosz]

Sounds a bit like Can on the intro.

[hestrumpstege]

Äh vafan, Bob hund äer bäettre.

[tigerrat8]

great guys!!sick

[parablearable]

As far as I hurd........David Thomas yanked all vinyl 45 of this genius song because the skin heads came up right after and he did not want any association with them

[DeathMetalDouglas68]

They (as well as we the listeners) were lucky to have access to a recording studio in '75. This version of the band had only been playing a few months when they recorded this song. They did not have a record label, not yet toured and the production of these songs were as good as most major label bands from that time. They had not even played live yet and they recorded this rock classic!!

[jmh2277]

The guitars are nothing short of radiant... brilliant song

[Asymmatrix]

@jmh2277 The vinyl is worth seeking out.

[ProjectThunderwing]

The best song about teenage self destruction ever.

[11spike7]

Some of the coolest guitar ever.

Pete Laughner?

[Timmybear]

@11spike7 - there were two guitarists on it, I think (runs to get single - yes, Tom Herman and Peter Laughner - but I suspect Peter is the lead guitarist/soloist at the end...) (yes, I have the elusive Hearpen Singles box :) ).

[bucareli88]

one of the greates song of all time in my opinion.

That' so powerfull and the sound so damn good!

[Pokal777]

@bucareli88 Agree in every word you say

[lagratouille89]

rien que du bon chez pere ubu c'est la seule cure pour se dégraisser les oreilles. N'allons pas chercher plus loin les influences des Pixies !

[IsabelDhampir82]

Esta version me la envio hace un tiempo un amigo. Me gusto mucho, yo solo conocia la de Peter Murphy, que me encanta, pero esta tiene mas fuerza, mas poder, la de Peter suena algo pop, aunque salva por su magnifica voz.

[MONSTERGIANNETZ]

... I get so excited I always gotta lose it Then they send me off and make me take the cure But I dont need a cure D-dont need a cure I need a final solution Buy me a ticket to a sonic reduction Guitars gonna sound like a nuclear destruction Its seems Im the victim of natural selection Meet me on the other side--no direction! Cause I dont need a cure D-dont need a cure I NEED A FINAL SOLUTION

[cb3961]

Crocus Behemoth LIVES !!!

[dougzilla]

Awesome, I have loved this since it first came out.

[claytongundlach]

Don't need a cure!!!

[motherginsling]

Frankly, without Pete Murphys version would have passed me aside, it wasn't promoted or anything. Love the original, as well as most of the output of Pere Ubu.

[Kohntarkosz]

As I recall, the original single was only released on a small label, and only for a brief period of time. Apparently, there was a lot of negative publicity from people who thought the song was about Hitler's "final solution", and hence the song was pulled from release.

[joshkamikaze]

thanks!

[Arrghhville]

My favorite song

[friendlier]

David Thomas is notorious for taking down Ubu video he doesn't approve of.

[Timmybear]

Fortunately, a different Ubu is now in charge of video vetting, and he's apparently more generous or at least open to discussion.

[equestrianstatue]

a little piece of the master.

[sergejisd]

MASTERPIECE!

[dmrichkt]

Saw them at the Town and Country when they reformed went with Keith Allen, e'd up in the early days when it was soooo pure......lovely night, don't remember a lot; this song and people having sex on the floor in Shoom later....happy days.

[loiraso]

Thanks for posting, this is great!

[delboy333]

Just bloody awesome!

[abagail4me]

Superb.I have this track on some new wave comp CD that I own.Highly under rated and original band from Ohio USA - very unique.

[mchetakuso]

Bloody hell, amazing amazing amazing...can't even begin to spew enough superlatives! Punk as f@#k!

The Peter Murphy cover doesn't even come close to Ubu, but at least he has good taste.

[tomcatlite]

Somebody posted this song ( Final Solution ) of them playing it in concert with two drummers and I was blown away! I didn't know at the time that I could've flagged it under my favorites. Anybody know what happened to it? It was a couple months ago and it just disappeared.