Strange people? Have you seen your fat nasty ass? Yes, allow straight marriage only. They'll divorce later on or cheat. And as far as gay sex, I've seen plenty of women taking it in the ass.
Pastor John Hagee is a trojan horse within American Chrstendom. On the payroll of a foreign power that is working against our nation. Namely the Rothschilds dynasty of Europe and their apostate Zionists in modern Israel. He is rewarded with jets, fame and mammon for his endeavors. He speaks with great authority on the coming beast system, but sadly is a tool of those very powers..."be wise as serpents, gentle as doves" pray and study this subject
Homosexuals make up 1- 2% of the US population. Do the math...that makes homosexuality an abberation at best. As Wm. F. Buckley Jr. used to say, "The best thing that can be said about homosexuality is that it's unnatural." Pastor Hagee was right on the money. Marriage is the foundation of any society. Allowing homosexuals to marry would do great damage to that foundation & danderously weaken any country. But then homosexuals really don't care...they're beyond that.
@silentfades I've eaten with Pastor Hagee many times. I have never seen him eat more than I. Metabolism and heredity are the issue here. If I were a flaming liberal I could say, "Thanks for insulting all the peole in the country victimized by McDonald's or suffering from glandular diseases ...yada, yada." Instead I'll be brief, "You're an idiot."
You're from the generation of segregation, mass lynchings of black folks, and when even in California inter-racial marriage was illegal. Thank god we moved out of those dark times!
You're from the generation of segregation, mass lynchings of black folks, and when even in California inter-racial marriage was illegal. Thank god we moved out of those dark times!
His generation wasn't that great. It was full of shit just like ours. Segregation of the races, the oppression of women, ect. And people screwed before marriage. They just weren't as out in the open with it.
@AutumnAlmonds his generatiion had alot of the same stuff as our generation , but to a much lesser degree than today so by and large it was better back then
Faith itself is a gift from god - if a gay Christian has faith they are saved. No one can confess Jesus is lord but by the holy spirit. Gay Christians are saved.
Goodness gracious, what hypocrisy! Hagee cheated on his wife (the mother of his two children), then divorced her and married a younger woman from his congregation. And today he preaches about the sanctity of marriage? Hahahahahahahahah!
@jackthayer. God loves you why not believe in him. Being gay is sinning against God and it sends the wrong message to children telling them it's ok to be gay when it's sinful and wrong
@keithbyrd10 It's only a wrong message if the children are being raised to believe in Jesus and Christianity. However, if children are being raised by intelligent, rational people than there is nothing wrong with being gay.
keyboardplaya...He wlll very soon..in the clouds, riding a a white horse...and EVERY knee will bow and declare Him Lord...read the end of "the Book"..the Bible....
gay marriage=sin Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." oh and God Destroyed Sodom Because of Fornication and Homosexuality
@MissHollywoodBabe Funny, when the prophet Ezekiel wrote about Israel, comparing it to Sodom, he gave a long list of Sodom's signs: "Fullness of bread and idleness. Neither did she strengthen the hand of poor." I don't recall him mentioning homosexuality, even in passing. If you believe that homosexuality is an "abomination", I suggest you look through your closet for blended fabrics, as those are abominations too. As is shellfish, I hope you don't have any shrimp in your freezer.
@RadarKat73080 make your comments, take things out of context, mock god , so do what you will there is no saving you, god has given up on this world and death is coming soon, you will be judged and your excuses wont matter for crap, now go ahead and tell yourself that I'm crazy , you don't care and DAMN yourself some more I'll be watching from the gallery as you burn
@haydenman2 How very Christian of you. How thoughly loving and understanding. "Look not at the cinder your your brother's eye, rather look at the rafter in your own eye."
@RadarKat73080 now make your excuses with me like I wrote the bible or something , stop deflecting you problems with god onto me, I'll admit I have sins im not perfect but neither surely are you, this has nothing to do with me its what god said in the bible he is the one who will triumph in the end no matter how you people homo up history or relabel evil as good , I can be loving with a person and hate sin, but you think you are your sin so enjoy yourself and make your excuses, you will lose
@haydenman2 I don't have a problem with God, if anything, I have a problem with those who claim to know the will of God. Modern Christians are obessed with two subjects: abortion and homosexuality. If we take as read that every Scripture quoted on signs by the WBC that they carry during funerals is speaking about homosexuality, that's less then a dozen verses in a book with thousands. Jesus spoke more about poverty and wealth then that! But no modern Christian advocates feeding the poor.
@RadarKat73080 the WBC are a bunch of kooks propagating hate for the sake of hate and nothing else. Quoting scripture out of context is putting words into gods mouth and that is evil, the bible says that if you add anything to the bible then you incur the wrath of god and that includes a re-context of it. Modern true Christians have a problem with evil in all forms no matter what it is to include gays and abortion, how is either good in any way, they are not.
@haydenman2 What is the context? I've heard many quote a Scripture, say John 1:1, as proof of the Trinity, while others have used it to disprove it. Which, if either, is right? And how do you know? The King James, and almost all other Bibles save the Catholic Doury, contain the sixty-six books canonized in the second century, There are many other books that never made it into standard Bibles, enough to make an entire other Bible! What excluded them? It was a vote of the clerics!
@RadarKat73080 Yes Jesus did speak on behalf of the poor as a example of Gods relationship with humanity. But since we are the subject , I have personally gave $1500 to fund a medical trip to Haiti with a doctor from my church who gave his time freely to help the children that are still dying right now from disease and infection. What has the gay community done to help in Haiti if they are so morally superior to we Christians what have they done what?
@RadarKat73080 -did you ever hear of Feed the children, or Christian Children's fund, orJoyce Meyer Ministries, or even the majority of the local churches contribute to their local food pantres...actually a study was recently done that said the majority of charitable contributions are done by Christian people...
@gentlefriend1 There's no proof that actually happened. The Bible claims that the "cry of complaint waxed great." Were the Cannanites all prudes besides the people of these two cities?
@RadarKat73080 = I guess Christians are considered ;prudes...and the proof of that is in the reliability in the accuracy of the Bible which science supports...
@gentlefriend1 I said nothing about Christians, there were no Christians when Sodom and Gommorah were allegedly destroyed. Which "scientific accurancy"? That the earth sit upon pillars? That no man knows where the wind comes from? That prayer is more effective then medicine? That all the water on earth can cover the tallest mountains to a depth of thirty feet? That bats are birds? That hares chew cud? Throw me a bone here.
@MissHollywoodBabe If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy’s genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her. Deuteronomy 25:11-12
cannot believe people actually give this fake minister money. he lives in a mansion and certainly has not missed a meal. people need to wake up!!! he is a shame...
People like THIS is what makes me ashamed to have to live in America. Seriously, gay marriage is totally okay. Any Christians out there, PLEASE explain what this whole "preserving traditional marriage" trash is about. It doesn't have any relevance, and is a stupid excuse for homophobes. And I agree, anyone who is this much against gay marriage is in denial/in the closet.
don't be embarrassed by Christians who discern right from wrong and say it aloud as Christ said to Sinners and the religious leaders in the New Testament. You don't LOVE if you allow precious souls to go to HELL because you are too ashamed and judgmental to tell the TRUTH. Christ said "GO into the world and preach the Gospel to every people." Sometimes hard love is the best love to wake the dying.
@meshachre i agree with you one hundred percent! But Jesus also said the number one commandment is Love, because love covers all commandments. I am not ashamed of the Gospel and i Love Jesus Christ. I AM NOT ASHAMED! I LOVE GOD ALMIGHTY AND HIS WORD!!!!:)
He is coming soon. REPENT the end is near. Just say sorry Lord for my unbelief, not loving you with my whole heart, my dirty rotten sins and for not loving my neighbor in the right way.
@meshachre ...yes, because Adam and Eve worked out so well.... didn't it? If all you can say is Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve, then you are too ignorant to be a part of this conversation.
GOD loves his people . When Christ expelled 7 filthy demons from the prostitute he sad and I quote, "GO AND SIN NO MORE" .. he loved the homosexuals, drunks and tax collectors and told them GO AND SIN NO MORE. Our homofobic selves say love the sinner and hate the sin -- unfortunately in the end, both sin and sinner go downstairs -- REPENT AND BE SAVED from an eternity in hell
Here is my confession....I would like to apologize on behalf of the whole church of Christ-who ever believes in Jesus Christ as there savior, and especially my self. For, hurt things that are said about homosexuals. God loves all people, not just a select few. I know that Jesus would not want us to act this way. Our job is to love one another and NOT JUDGE one another. I have said hurtful things too and it's not right. I am loving all people regardless of what they've done or do. I choose LOVE!
@julie2branden - Jesus loves all people, but He also convicted them & spoke the truth...He told the woman at the well that she was in sin by having multiple hubands, He told the adulteress to go and sin no more. A person who truly loves another will have the courage to speak the truth in love to them...Homosexuality is an abomination to God...The Bible clearly states that. John Hagee is doing his job as a Minister to bring truth to people in darkness..He is taking a bold stand.
Yeah,ok, so you are saying Jesus was THERE saying this to the women at the well and now you expect us to believe he still is there, mystically, invisible....can you start to see why some doubt this??
John Hagee is doing MORE harm than good as far as i am concerned. He is going about things TOTALLY in the wrong way!
@fitasafiddle123 -John hagee is being treated the same way that the prophets of israel, and the disciples were treated...He is saying the truth...and being rejected by the majority who cannot hear or accept the truth...
And Yes, Jesus is speaking thru the Holy Spirit which lives within the hearts of His disciples, which John hagee is surely one of them.
But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and RESPECT.....
@gentlefriend1 I aggre with you gentlefriend. totally agree, but nothing wrong with showing love before conviction and judgement. With love, and truth, in love, comes conviction of the sin. Not ashamed here of the gospel. Jesus is my Savior. Been saved for 3 years now. Still learning and growing in the Lord.
Well with all due respect pastor, I came from a world that YOU dont know anything about. So thats why in MY generation thinks we need a constituation to make sure your belifes stays out of MY LIFE..
God created conjugal love (love between husband + wife) purely so that Man and Woman could find joy in one another. They are MADE for one another, and they complement each other perfectly. You are spitting in the face of God when you take the beautiful, perfect institution He created (marriage) and pervert it into something vile and abominable (sodomy).
GOP, GOD? You cant even prove there is a GOD yet you want to use it to keep people from having equality and love in their life. AND MARRIAGE....pffft Marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all: women are property, matches are arranged in childhood, blacks can't marry whites, Catholics can't marry Jews, divorce is illegal, and adultery is punishable by death
It's amazing how people get SO DEFENSIVE if you criticize sodomy. This is what you get passionate about? Defending men who put their organs in other mens rectums? That's your fight? Gay activists are really deluded.
DELUDED? LOL, this coming from a BIBLE THUMPER like you who believes in talking burning bush's and a woman impregnated by a magical invisible sky daddy....
Thats like the POT calling the KETTLE black moron.
"Closets were for clothes, not something strange people were coming out of." Whatever side of the gay marriage argument you agree with, you must also agree that this language is offensive and divisive. Calling homosexuals "strange" is not the sort of language that will attract them to the gospel message. It is not the language Jesus would use and is therefore not the language Mr. Hagee should have used.
If you don't like what I have to say then stop watching these videos, and respond with your ridiculous comments on an athiest video where your uneducated opinion will actually matter to someone who cares what you have to say.
Well, fitasafag123, I was starting to think you are a retard, but thanks to your last comment it is now confirmed!!! You must not have received any attention as a child, which can't be far off, as seeing your lack of intelligence, and now you come onto youtube and try to get much attention from your ignorance. Best if you go do something you may be good at, like play with your barbies and play house with your sibling and his girlfriends.
Well bless, i was starting to think for a minute you were a holier than thou hypocritical Bible Thumper and well, now it is confirmed.
So you call people "RETARD" What? Is that the Christian way of talking asshole?
My lack of Intelligence? LOL, yes of course, you who believes a guy made an ark and put two of every animal on board....and a guy came home to find his wife preggo from a SKY DADDY? Yeah sure bless, you are WAY more intelligent....pffft
But ya know, the Religious Dogma you cast does more harm than good! No kidding and no offense. When Hagee says the rotten things about gays, he does nothing but hurt christianity. Btw,i am straight.
@fitasafiddle123 Well :). One thing that Christians represent is Christ's love for homosexuals. You see, Pastor Hagee has a loving heart; he has his own way of showing it. The reason why he is so harsh isn't necessarily because he wants to bash homosexuals; he just wants to wake the nation up and bring them to someone that can truly bring them joy and peace, Jesus. But um. We aren't supposed to hate homosexuals, just their actions. And homosexuals by orientation can still go to heaven.
A loving heart by stating that "strange things in the closet should stay there"
Are you kidding me?
And Joy and Peace? Are you saying all christians have joy and peace and gays do not?
And so you also expect gays not to be with anyone, and its ok to be gay but not to be with anyone at all in their life? Do you or does GOD honestly expect this to happen?
@fitasafiddle123 Those are good questions. :) There are many people with homosexual orientations that wish to overcome those orientations. Thousands upon thousands of valid accounts of people overcoming those orientations ensure that. And I can see a few people lying about it just to prove a point, but the statistics ensure that these people (people that seek Christ) are as sincere as they can be. So :) there are people that do want to change. I suppose you're right, though, because not
And why do those certain people wish to over come their homosexuality addy?
I would say it is from guilt put upon them by the religious folk and bigoted people.
What would you say if YOU had a gay child? A child afraid to come out, or someone who was depressed because even his own parents dont think he/she is right?
@Addy4473 Well lol thank you for the respectful thing, I suppose :). I appreciate it. To answer your questions; First of all, the average life-span of a heterosexual male is around 70 years. The average life-span for a homosexual male WITHOUT AIDS/HIV is around 40 years. Those are the numbers! :) But um. As for religious implications. I will be totally honest here. I had a very strong homosexual orientation. However, through Christ Jesus (and not through my own efforts) that attraction is
@Addy4473 ideas are subject to flaw and change, and that we can't rely on our own ideas of right and wrong. Why, even my Bible shows a group of people that enjoyed murdering innocents! God, of course, pays those that pursue injustice with justice,and these people were paid for their sins. I can't remember the full story, but I mean, there are people who don't even care about right or wrong, they only care about their own personal happiness; thus, they bend their rules in order to find happiness
@Addy4473 and thus throw away right and wrong. My friend, in your OPINION, and in other's opinions, homosexuality is okay. But is that true? Of course not. I don't believe in my opinion; I believe in God's truth. His truth has never mislead anyone; His truth has led me down the path of righteousness, and His truth has stood firm throughout the years. God will stand true. Throughout the years, those that have followed His word have prospered spiritually, and live with joy in their hearts. :)
No you see, homosexuality to YOU is not ok, but to the rest of us, it is ok.
Of course it is.
And Addy, do you expect people to change by coming on here and preaching what YOU believe. Again, no offense, but i am sure a Muslim could sit down with you and call you an infidel, correct?
Many athiests, agnostics, and christians have turned their lives around, and i feel, it is out of sheer positive thinking or to improve ones life. It Does not mean it was from a "God" necessarily!
@fitasafiddle123 Well believe what you may, my friend. I give the credit to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Positive thinking hasn't helped me in the past, so I can't credit my change through that. And of course it isn't okay to me! But it originates from God's truth. His truth has shown me how destructive it is. Now then. As I said, in an atheistic world, who is to say who is right or not? But in a world where God rules supreme, we have an ultimate moral mindset to follow by, one that has
@fitasafiddle123 So, if I were to take your argument and turn it on you, I could easily say that you believe that science, probability, chance, philosophy, and logic reign supreme. Of course, I know that God reigns supreme. But can you say with 100% certainty that God doesn't exist? Nothing you have submitted proves that God doesn't exist. Or even that a higher authority doesn't exist. And Abraham having 2 wives? I don't remember how many he had, exactly, but of course, you have to understand
@fitasafiddle123 the situation. And I'm sure it has for you, my friend. It has for me too. But it all comes from God, and that is something I've ensured. Now, which seems probable to you; the fact that we are all creations of chance? (In which, those odds are ironically miraculous?) Or that we have objective purposes in our lives? That we don't support one another just to further the human race; that we love one another, that we try to bring others into an eternity that is void of suffering?
@fitasafiddle123 Without God, life is insanity. It's live by your own philosophy, do what makes you happy, whatever the obstacle. And even should you try to find purpose without God, it will fail as time elapses. But with God, everything you do is out of love, a sincere love that isn't limited to emotions, but is done out of Christ's uplifting of your soul. Everything I type tonight is done out of love for you and ultimately for God. So. :)
@fitasafiddle123 everyone wants to. And yes, I want them to change, but for their safety. It's an extremely unhealthy lifestyle. I feel the same way towards heterosexuals that engage in forms of sexual intercourse displeasing to God, because it only ensures destruction in the future. Too many times, I've heard accounts of people that feel used, isolated, and disgusted after committing sexual sins, both homosexual and heterosexual. But I suppose some people are happy with that choice; but that
@fitasafiddle123 As for homosexuals not being with anyone; as I stated previously, many homosexual orientations can be overcome. If not, the attraction can be reduced to a mere speck. Heterosexual attractions can increase; in all of the cases I read, they gave their hearts to God and Jesus healed them. You can believe that or not believe it, but it doesn't matter; they know it. :) I know that God has rebuilt me from the sorry human being I was into the follower of Christ I am today. It had
You do realize that both the AMA and APA have stated that attempts at changing someone's sexual orientation causes MORE harm than good right?
You say you have been rebuilt from Gods good graciousness, or one might say it was mere positive thinking and even an atheist can repare ones life addy by doing things differently...whether it is "god" or not, no one knows!
@fitasafiddle123 nothing to do with my efforts; they all failed. But yes, I have overcome through His grace. :) And my God is the God of the impossible. So yes, I know He can help anyone through that struggle. God is amazing indeed :) As for pastor Hagee, like I said, he is a loving man. Yes, he possesses his flaws, but who doesn't? I'm not here to judge; also, you might want to analyze your actions, my friend. He thrives to please God, despite his wants; He also wants to help others out there.
But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...key word i guess...RESPECT:)
@fitasafiddle123 as for you, it seems as though you want to bash Mr. Hagee and anyone that might support him. It seems rather hateful to me. But I love you. And that's why I'm here to discuss this with you :) I'm no better than you are. I am a sinner too. Except I'm saved through grace; I wish for you to experience this amazing feeling!
I want to bash Mr Hagee, who calls my gay brother something strange that should stay in the closet? And Mr Hagee who states that stay at home dads are going to hell and lazy? What do you expect addy, really?
@fitasafiddle123 Exodus 35:2 is a day dedicated to the Lord. There is an example of a man that was executed for working on the Sabbath; for one, He disobeyed God, knowing God's law; also, he was probably trying to increase his own personal gain by working on a day that noone else worked on, possibly trying to get ahead of the crowd. The Sabbath day gives us rest, and also allows us to give praise to God for His glory :). It's an awesome law, and although we are free from the punishment,
@fitasafiddle123 Mark 10:1-12 yes divorce is forbidden in both testaments, in order to protect the sanctity of marriage. In that same passage, Jesus affirms His Father's purpose for marriage. Genesis 2:24 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh". It doesn't mention divorce, nor same-sex relations, but strictly heterosexual relationships. This justifies my next point; anything outside of God's idea for marriage distorts the
@fitasafiddle123 true idea of marriage, and only causes pain. You claim that plenty of homosexuals are healthy. I'm not claiming that every homosexual is unhealthy; however, as I've said, the average life spans is proof enough. Studies show that their relationships for the most part do NOT work out. :( 73% of homosexuals claim that they are not happy. that leaves 23%, and we don't know their conscience live nor how they fair. As for your statistics, I don't know AMA or APA. But I will say that
@fitasafiddle123 contradicts the many stories of people who have overcome their orientations. Thousands upon thousands. While it may be unhealthy to try to change your orientation by yourself, God can help you to overcome homosexual temptations, orientations, attractions, etc. if you rely on Him; but you can't do it by yourself. You have to let Him take care of you! :) Well Pastor Hagee, he doesn't want homosexuals to go to hell, and he doesn't want to lie to people. He wants to honor and glorfy
@fitasafiddle123 God. So :) That's why he says what he says; to give God the glory. He loves Him, and knows that God's rules against homosexuality are for their protection. You see, in a world where God doesn't exist, who am I to that you are wrong, and I am right? Who are you to say that I am wrong and you are right? We would contradict one another, and moral righteousness could not be discovered through our opinions or speculations of right and wrong. We would only discover that our own moral
@fitasafiddle123 almost completely gone. I can look at a female and find attraction in her (which is different from lusting, I just find more attraction in females than I do males). I overcame this homosexual attraction through the almighty power of Jesus Christ. You can claim anything you want against this evidence, but this is a claim that I would know more about than anyone else, except for Jesus, of course. So I use this example in full truth. I've had other mental problems as well, only to
@fitasafiddle123 overcome them through Jesus' blood. There is an example to ya. I've never given into the orientation; even if I were an atheist, I would be against homosexuality. I mean, in atheism, there is no right or wrong, just relevant moral fabrics that are either self-fabricated or adopted, all originating from human beings, which are prone to error and in fact are not stable. In terms easier to understand, in an atheistic world, we can't rely on our own moral standards because they are
@fitasafiddle123 subject to change. That is why we CAN rely on God's standards, which are firm and constant. God never changes, though we do. Anywho. As for Exodus 21:7, you need to read the entire passage before you analyze the meaning behind it. Read 21: 1-11. They are treated like servants, not slaves. It protects her from working as a male servant does, and It protects her from being sold to foreign tribes, etc. because the Hebrew people were under God's personal protection.
@fitasafiddle123 But um. anywho. Through Jesus' blood we can be saved. And homosexuals can overcome their temptations and orientations, even, through Him. It's true. :)
@fitasafiddle123 doesn't mean it's right. A selfish heart pursues sexual lust outside of the boundaries of marriage (a man and a woman, of course). And our joy and peace is something that composes of the Holy Spirit. It's different from the "happiness" that homosexuals have. It's stable; it's secure; it ensures comfort during suffering. Joy is not happiness, but something greater than happiness. :) It's something I've experienced, definitely. :) Um....
And why do you call two people, who are gay, in love with each other "lust"?
And change for their safety? PLENTY of gays are healthy, in fact, more so than you or I.
Its nice that you care, but this is coming from your belief and not from reality...no offense. You seem to think all gays are wild, sexually immoral people, which sure, some are but not all just like hetero's.
Ok, I guess after your rude, obsene comments, i am no longer going to waste any more time with this back and forth chat. Take care, and i hope you get out of life something better than all this negativity you are full of.
To those who would say these Christian messages are based on outdated thinking, please remember that God is the same today as He was 2 thousand years ago, and He will be the same 2 thousand years from now. What was right or wrong in the sight of God back then remains today. There ARE moral absolutes. The Godless would lead you to believe that all is relative but I plead with you to see the deception as it is. Please accept God's truth while you can.
Actually being gay IS a choice. If your read in Romans 1:26-27, it states that women who change the natural use for what is against nature, or men leaving the natural use of the woman, and burn in lust for each other, commit what is shameful and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.Then go to 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.Do not be deceived.Neither Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves,nor drunkards will inherit the kingdom of God.
Yeah, SO WHAT. It also talks about talking snakes and talking burning bush's in the Bible Bless. Whats your point?
Try picking up some well documented fact based information on homosexuality that has been studied and researched and not thought up by some desert nomads. No offense but really.....
Isn't it strange; Jesus said not a word about homosexuality, but said plenty about fat, arrogant, pious, pride fuelled preachers that used their flocks to get rich. Strange that Hagee doesn't mention that.
'You're not from my world, and I'm not from yours.'
Well, by your own admission, your world is long gone, so stop trying to interfere in and fuck up mine.
'I was born in 1940, before gay rights,' and black rights, and women's rights. Fatty's right! These things are destroying America! Put darkie back in the 'cane field! Put women back in the kitchen! We'll make an oven with braces she can kneel so you can fuck'er right there. Put the washing machine and dryer in there with'er and she wouldn't have to leave. Where the fuck are the engineers? Quit wasting time!
@julie2branden Being gay is not wrong. It is the way people are born. It's not common but it's the way people are born. Just like being left handed....let's just say being left handed is wrong. And actually it used to be. The catholic church thought that anyone who was left handed was demon possessed. But we know now it's a crock of shit. There is nothing wrong with being gay. It's hate from homophobic people like you and fatso Hagee
Show me ONE credible health organization that says homosexuality is a choice.
" homosexuality thus far is due to genetic and environmental factors, likely in combination. Other factors that may play a role include prenatal hormone exposure, where hormones play a role in determining sexual orientation as they do with sex differentiation"
So Julie, no offense, i tend to listen to people who study this..not stories from a book!
@fitasafiddle123 All im gonna say is that its gonna be really hard for you to be an atheist when you are on your death bed. I will pray for your unbelief.
Seriously, What do you EXPECT from people that have NEVER been raised in a religious family or even exposed to any church? Just willy nilly drop everything by what YOU say? Threats?
Lady, you are doing more harm than good by saying that crap! !
@julie2branden you are wrong on so many levels. You can't use the bible because the bible also states eating shellfish, polycotton blends, and planting crops of a different kind are a sin. You can't cherry pick. Also if marriage was just for birthing, then by your own admission the old, infertile, and those who choose not to have children can't get married.
"we can change our actions" by your own admission you can be gay.
@julie2branden So if homosexuals can't have babies together then what of the heterosexual couples that are infertile? are you damning them as well as those you are calling sinners? are they to go to hell as well, or does your god only have rules for some and not others- i know my God, Jesus, is fair and just, and isn't prejudiced against anyone for their sexuality, race, or age.
@fitasafiddle I don't know your family how can I insult them lol. I don't try to insult nobody who do you think I am. I just try to help people on the wrong path.
And on the wrong path? Ok, but that is what you think keith, and i appreciate the kind words in fact but our family and my brother are just fine. But if you think that way, hey, its a free country.
@fitasafiddle123. Pat Robertson don't have a thing to do with John Hagee! Pat talks about christianity and misinterpred what God said or God might not have said those things it might just be Pats predictions. John is a pastor and knows the Bible and I don't remember him making any predictions. But I think most people has to be a Christian to understand Christianity or they will belive what they want to belive!
@bernytheplayboy No God don't hate nobody and yes we have all sinned but you can ask for forgiveness and go on and live a normal life which being gay or lesbian means your living in sin but God allows us all to choose our life styles whether it's right or wrong! So everbody can choose to live for God or the devil. Pastor Hagee is just doing what God is telling him to do belive it or not
My vote is keep it straight
Tcab7 2 days ago
Strange people? Have you seen your fat nasty ass? Yes, allow straight marriage only. They'll divorce later on or cheat. And as far as gay sex, I've seen plenty of women taking it in the ass.
AnotherDayOfThis 2 days ago
Only Heterosexual Marriage!
Domes509 1 week ago
You are exactly right Pastor. you keep on hitting the nail on the head.
thecolaratlady 3 weeks ago
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Pastor John Hagee is a trojan horse within American Chrstendom. On the payroll of a foreign power that is working against our nation. Namely the Rothschilds dynasty of Europe and their apostate Zionists in modern Israel. He is rewarded with jets, fame and mammon for his endeavors. He speaks with great authority on the coming beast system, but sadly is a tool of those very powers..."be wise as serpents, gentle as doves" pray and study this subject
bbbbbzzzzz 3 weeks ago
Homosexuals make up 1- 2% of the US population. Do the math...that makes homosexuality an abberation at best. As Wm. F. Buckley Jr. used to say, "The best thing that can be said about homosexuality is that it's unnatural." Pastor Hagee was right on the money. Marriage is the foundation of any society. Allowing homosexuals to marry would do great damage to that foundation & danderously weaken any country. But then homosexuals really don't care...they're beyond that.
Hagion7206 1 month ago
@Hagion7206 Right, most homos are agnostic or atheist and this being born gay..bull cookies, it's a choice.the bible talks about homos in leviticus
thecolaratlady 3 weeks ago
Maybe he should address his glutony
silentfades 1 year ago
@silentfades he doesnt have glutony
JeremyDanielBriton 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@silentfades I've eaten with Pastor Hagee many times. I have never seen him eat more than I. Metabolism and heredity are the issue here. If I were a flaming liberal I could say, "Thanks for insulting all the peole in the country victimized by McDonald's or suffering from glandular diseases ...yada, yada." Instead I'll be brief, "You're an idiot."
Hagion7206 3 weeks ago
Becoming an athiest looks nicer and nicer everyday......
maddie7243 1 year ago
romans 14-32 read and weep for your sins look up mhfm1!
endtime471 1 year ago
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You're from the generation of segregation, mass lynchings of black folks, and when even in California inter-racial marriage was illegal. Thank god we moved out of those dark times!
steviethomashanley 1 year ago
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steviethomashanley 1 year ago
You're from the generation of segregation, mass lynchings of black folks, and when even in California inter-racial marriage was illegal. Thank god we moved out of those dark times!
steviethomashanley 1 year ago
His generation wasn't that great. It was full of shit just like ours. Segregation of the races, the oppression of women, ect. And people screwed before marriage. They just weren't as out in the open with it.
AutumnAlmonds 1 year ago
@AutumnAlmonds his generatiion had alot of the same stuff as our generation , but to a much lesser degree than today so by and large it was better back then
blaq7427 1 year ago
Faith itself is a gift from god - if a gay Christian has faith they are saved. No one can confess Jesus is lord but by the holy spirit. Gay Christians are saved.
bagospannerz 1 year ago
Hagee is gay, no doubt about it. Anyone who this hostile toward gay people has something going on inside of him.
Jethro494 1 year ago
Goodness gracious, what hypocrisy! Hagee cheated on his wife (the mother of his two children), then divorced her and married a younger woman from his congregation. And today he preaches about the sanctity of marriage? Hahahahahahahahah!
Orsbore 1 year ago
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@Orsbore we all have sin and fall short of the glory of God. He who has never sinned cast the first stone.
julie2branden 1 year ago
@jackthayer. God loves you why not believe in him. Being gay is sinning against God and it sends the wrong message to children telling them it's ok to be gay when it's sinful and wrong
keithbyrd10 1 year ago 2
@keithbyrd10 It's only a wrong message if the children are being raised to believe in Jesus and Christianity. However, if children are being raised by intelligent, rational people than there is nothing wrong with being gay.
TomsFriendKake 1 year ago
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gentlefriend1 1 year ago
keyboardplaya...He wlll very soon..in the clouds, riding a a white horse...and EVERY knee will bow and declare Him Lord...read the end of "the Book"..the Bible....
gentlefriend1 1 year ago
@gentlefriend1
Gentle, "riding a white horse"? HUH?! What on earth are you on or talking about??????
Who is going to ride a white horse? John Hagee??!! HUH?
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 -Jesus will be.
gentlefriend1 1 year ago
Homosexuals is a big problem in the world and God hates sin
keithbyrd10 1 year ago
@keithbyrd10 but not everyone believes in god and how is being gay a big problem?
jackthayer 1 year ago
now if only Hagee would become Catholic and accept the pre vatican 2 church as you all should or burn in hell look up mhfm1
endtime471 1 year ago
im obease -divorced but lawd you looks the otter way- over my faults- while i
i straighten out these mean old SINNERS.
ajn43us1 1 year ago
gay marriage=sin Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." oh and God Destroyed Sodom Because of Fornication and Homosexuality
MissHollywoodBabe 1 year ago 2
@MissHollywoodBabe Funny, when the prophet Ezekiel wrote about Israel, comparing it to Sodom, he gave a long list of Sodom's signs: "Fullness of bread and idleness. Neither did she strengthen the hand of poor." I don't recall him mentioning homosexuality, even in passing. If you believe that homosexuality is an "abomination", I suggest you look through your closet for blended fabrics, as those are abominations too. As is shellfish, I hope you don't have any shrimp in your freezer.
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 make your comments, take things out of context, mock god , so do what you will there is no saving you, god has given up on this world and death is coming soon, you will be judged and your excuses wont matter for crap, now go ahead and tell yourself that I'm crazy , you don't care and DAMN yourself some more I'll be watching from the gallery as you burn
haydenman2 1 year ago
@haydenman2 How very Christian of you. How thoughly loving and understanding. "Look not at the cinder your your brother's eye, rather look at the rafter in your own eye."
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 now make your excuses with me like I wrote the bible or something , stop deflecting you problems with god onto me, I'll admit I have sins im not perfect but neither surely are you, this has nothing to do with me its what god said in the bible he is the one who will triumph in the end no matter how you people homo up history or relabel evil as good , I can be loving with a person and hate sin, but you think you are your sin so enjoy yourself and make your excuses, you will lose
haydenman2 1 year ago
@haydenman2 I don't have a problem with God, if anything, I have a problem with those who claim to know the will of God. Modern Christians are obessed with two subjects: abortion and homosexuality. If we take as read that every Scripture quoted on signs by the WBC that they carry during funerals is speaking about homosexuality, that's less then a dozen verses in a book with thousands. Jesus spoke more about poverty and wealth then that! But no modern Christian advocates feeding the poor.
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 the WBC are a bunch of kooks propagating hate for the sake of hate and nothing else. Quoting scripture out of context is putting words into gods mouth and that is evil, the bible says that if you add anything to the bible then you incur the wrath of god and that includes a re-context of it. Modern true Christians have a problem with evil in all forms no matter what it is to include gays and abortion, how is either good in any way, they are not.
haydenman2 1 year ago
@haydenman2 What is the context? I've heard many quote a Scripture, say John 1:1, as proof of the Trinity, while others have used it to disprove it. Which, if either, is right? And how do you know? The King James, and almost all other Bibles save the Catholic Doury, contain the sixty-six books canonized in the second century, There are many other books that never made it into standard Bibles, enough to make an entire other Bible! What excluded them? It was a vote of the clerics!
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 Yes Jesus did speak on behalf of the poor as a example of Gods relationship with humanity. But since we are the subject , I have personally gave $1500 to fund a medical trip to Haiti with a doctor from my church who gave his time freely to help the children that are still dying right now from disease and infection. What has the gay community done to help in Haiti if they are so morally superior to we Christians what have they done what?
haydenman2 1 year ago
@haydenman2 Christians claim the moral high ground. Why must gays, or anyone else who doesn't claim that perch, do anything?
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 -did you ever hear of Feed the children, or Christian Children's fund, orJoyce Meyer Ministries, or even the majority of the local churches contribute to their local food pantres...actually a study was recently done that said the majority of charitable contributions are done by Christian people...
gentlefriend1 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 -read Genesis 19:1-11...
gentlefriend1 1 year ago
@gentlefriend1 There's no proof that actually happened. The Bible claims that the "cry of complaint waxed great." Were the Cannanites all prudes besides the people of these two cities?
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 = I guess Christians are considered ;prudes...and the proof of that is in the reliability in the accuracy of the Bible which science supports...
gentlefriend1 1 year ago
@gentlefriend1
And how does science support the Bible?
Does science support talking burning bush's and bread falling from heaven?
Does science support impregnated women from a God? No offense, but does it?
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@gentlefriend1 I said nothing about Christians, there were no Christians when Sodom and Gommorah were allegedly destroyed. Which "scientific accurancy"? That the earth sit upon pillars? That no man knows where the wind comes from? That prayer is more effective then medicine? That all the water on earth can cover the tallest mountains to a depth of thirty feet? That bats are birds? That hares chew cud? Throw me a bone here.
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@MissHollywoodBabe OH and dont forget..
The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman’s period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.Leviticus 18:19
dont pick and choose.
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@MissHollywoodBabe
If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately. Deuteronomy 22:13-21
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@MissHollywoodBabe If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy’s genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her. Deuteronomy 25:11-12
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
cannot believe people actually give this fake minister money. he lives in a mansion and certainly has not missed a meal. people need to wake up!!! he is a shame...
marcustenor 1 year ago
IMO baby-boomers were the worst generation to face this earth.
adamsonxxfifteen 1 year ago
Before 1945? Even more racism and homophobia. War. More hate. Nothing positive.
adamsonxxfifteen 1 year ago
His belly is so big he needs tweezers to pull his penis out from the fat folds.
y2knoproblem 1 year ago
Wait his name is John Hagee? Does this sound like anything to you folks...?
kepponinja 1 year ago
People like THIS is what makes me ashamed to have to live in America. Seriously, gay marriage is totally okay. Any Christians out there, PLEASE explain what this whole "preserving traditional marriage" trash is about. It doesn't have any relevance, and is a stupid excuse for homophobes. And I agree, anyone who is this much against gay marriage is in denial/in the closet.
kepponinja 1 year ago
Any man that wears a blue suit has to be gay.
randomjrr1422 1 year ago
@randomjrr1422 LOL
Zgamer618 1 year ago
LOL to anyone who pays this man to run his mouth.
xaviervonrottie 1 year ago
to Julie2branden
don't be embarrassed by Christians who discern right from wrong and say it aloud as Christ said to Sinners and the religious leaders in the New Testament. You don't LOVE if you allow precious souls to go to HELL because you are too ashamed and judgmental to tell the TRUTH. Christ said "GO into the world and preach the Gospel to every people." Sometimes hard love is the best love to wake the dying.
meshachre 1 year ago
@meshachre i agree with you one hundred percent! But Jesus also said the number one commandment is Love, because love covers all commandments. I am not ashamed of the Gospel and i Love Jesus Christ. I AM NOT ASHAMED! I LOVE GOD ALMIGHTY AND HIS WORD!!!!:)
julie2branden 1 year ago
@julie2branden telling the true is love if you let someone keep believing a lie that is not love
blaq7427 1 year ago
To keyboardplayer
He is coming soon. REPENT the end is near. Just say sorry Lord for my unbelief, not loving you with my whole heart, my dirty rotten sins and for not loving my neighbor in the right way.
meshachre 1 year ago
Adam and Eve -- not adam and steve -- the natural appenditures just don't fit in the right places without being forced -- that's sooooooo obvious!
meshachre 1 year ago
@meshachre ...yes, because Adam and Eve worked out so well.... didn't it? If all you can say is Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve, then you are too ignorant to be a part of this conversation.
mntdewboy 1 year ago
@meshachre So your saying that some women don't get their back doors kicked in now and then, only gay men?
TomsFriendKake 1 year ago
GOD loves his people . When Christ expelled 7 filthy demons from the prostitute he sad and I quote, "GO AND SIN NO MORE" .. he loved the homosexuals, drunks and tax collectors and told them GO AND SIN NO MORE. Our homofobic selves say love the sinner and hate the sin -- unfortunately in the end, both sin and sinner go downstairs -- REPENT AND BE SAVED from an eternity in hell
meshachre 1 year ago
I love Hagees jokes!!He sure is a great precher!!I ask God to bless him and his!!!!!!
77777zula 1 year ago
House of God? marriage is a civil institution you fat ass!!!
mattnashisgay 1 year ago
John Hagee, et al., get over your homophobic bigotry. God also created Adam and Steve.
Duquedecasitodo 1 year ago
the word of god is foolishness to those that are in the world
eclesio34 1 year ago 3
I love John Hagee. And he is completely right.
lllllllllll1llllllll 1 year ago 5
@lllllllllll1llllllll yes he is!
JeremyDanielBriton 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
separation of church and state dude. by the way, it's a good thing that they're separate. remember the dark ages?
sociopathpsych 1 year ago
Here is my confession....I would like to apologize on behalf of the whole church of Christ-who ever believes in Jesus Christ as there savior, and especially my self. For, hurt things that are said about homosexuals. God loves all people, not just a select few. I know that Jesus would not want us to act this way. Our job is to love one another and NOT JUDGE one another. I have said hurtful things too and it's not right. I am loving all people regardless of what they've done or do. I choose LOVE!
julie2branden 1 year ago
@julie2branden - Jesus loves all people, but He also convicted them & spoke the truth...He told the woman at the well that she was in sin by having multiple hubands, He told the adulteress to go and sin no more. A person who truly loves another will have the courage to speak the truth in love to them...Homosexuality is an abomination to God...The Bible clearly states that. John Hagee is doing his job as a Minister to bring truth to people in darkness..He is taking a bold stand.
gentlefriend1 1 year ago
@gentlefriend1
Yeah,ok, so you are saying Jesus was THERE saying this to the women at the well and now you expect us to believe he still is there, mystically, invisible....can you start to see why some doubt this??
John Hagee is doing MORE harm than good as far as i am concerned. He is going about things TOTALLY in the wrong way!
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 -John hagee is being treated the same way that the prophets of israel, and the disciples were treated...He is saying the truth...and being rejected by the majority who cannot hear or accept the truth...
And Yes, Jesus is speaking thru the Holy Spirit which lives within the hearts of His disciples, which John hagee is surely one of them.
gentlefriend1 1 year ago
@gentlefriend1
NO not to me he isnt. I have a gay brother, and when Hagee says that strange things in closet should stay there? FAIL with me friend.
If Hagee thinks he is winning over people with his intolerance towards gays, think again....
1 Peter 3:15 (New International Version)
But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and RESPECT.....
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@gentlefriend1 I aggre with you gentlefriend. totally agree, but nothing wrong with showing love before conviction and judgement. With love, and truth, in love, comes conviction of the sin. Not ashamed here of the gospel. Jesus is my Savior. Been saved for 3 years now. Still learning and growing in the Lord.
julie2branden 1 year ago
Well with all due respect pastor, I came from a world that YOU dont know anything about. So thats why in MY generation thinks we need a constituation to make sure your belifes stays out of MY LIFE..
FAKENMAD 1 year ago
God created conjugal love (love between husband + wife) purely so that Man and Woman could find joy in one another. They are MADE for one another, and they complement each other perfectly. You are spitting in the face of God when you take the beautiful, perfect institution He created (marriage) and pervert it into something vile and abominable (sodomy).
GOPguy826 1 year ago
@GOPguy826
GOP, GOD? You cant even prove there is a GOD yet you want to use it to keep people from having equality and love in their life. AND MARRIAGE....pffft Marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all: women are property, matches are arranged in childhood, blacks can't marry whites, Catholics can't marry Jews, divorce is illegal, and adultery is punishable by death
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
It's amazing how people get SO DEFENSIVE if you criticize sodomy. This is what you get passionate about? Defending men who put their organs in other mens rectums? That's your fight? Gay activists are really deluded.
GOPguy826 1 year ago
@GOPguy826
DELUDED? LOL, this coming from a BIBLE THUMPER like you who believes in talking burning bush's and a woman impregnated by a magical invisible sky daddy....
Thats like the POT calling the KETTLE black moron.
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
By the way, if God thought this crap was THAT important, He'd come down HIMSELF.
keyboardplaya 1 year ago 4
@keyboardplaya Oh he will come, eventually. He will come when he wants too. Even when things go completely to hell, he will still wait.
Consumerofknowledge 1 year ago
@keyboardplaya he does in the end which is soon
haydenman2 1 year ago
Notice how these people never even mention divorce or domestic violence when they talk about the "sanctity" of marriage.
keyboardplaya 1 year ago
"Closets were for clothes, not something strange people were coming out of." Whatever side of the gay marriage argument you agree with, you must also agree that this language is offensive and divisive. Calling homosexuals "strange" is not the sort of language that will attract them to the gospel message. It is not the language Jesus would use and is therefore not the language Mr. Hagee should have used.
Roths2883 1 year ago
@Roths2883
EXACTLY Roth....thanks for saying this. MY POINT dead on!
Peace:)
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
i d like this man to get gangbanged by 4 jailbirds for 2 days straight.
i know they will vomit uncntrolably when fucking him but i kinda think he ll enjoy it a lot
anarchy3E 1 year ago
I find it interesting how someone who claims to be an athiest, argues so many times and so much about things he doesn't believe in.
blessedinpark 1 year ago 5
@blessedinpark
Thats because ATHIEST'S have your babble tossed at them all the time.
And thats right Bible Thumper, we dont believe in your Stories, so stop pushing your beliefs on everyone else's right to equality! ! !
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123
If you don't like what I have to say then stop watching these videos, and respond with your ridiculous comments on an athiest video where your uneducated opinion will actually matter to someone who cares what you have to say.
blessedinpark 1 year ago
@blessedinpark
Hey i know, fuck you. I will stay right here and fight back against Fat Blow hards like John Fat Ass Hagee and Bible Thumping hypocrites like you.
Un-educated? pfft, this coming from someone who believes in talking burning bush's and talking snakes! Yeah, thats rational thinking! lol
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123
Well, fitasafag123, I was starting to think you are a retard, but thanks to your last comment it is now confirmed!!! You must not have received any attention as a child, which can't be far off, as seeing your lack of intelligence, and now you come onto youtube and try to get much attention from your ignorance. Best if you go do something you may be good at, like play with your barbies and play house with your sibling and his girlfriends.
blessedinpark 1 year ago
@blessedinpark
Well bless, i was starting to think for a minute you were a holier than thou hypocritical Bible Thumper and well, now it is confirmed.
So you call people "RETARD" What? Is that the Christian way of talking asshole?
My lack of Intelligence? LOL, yes of course, you who believes a guy made an ark and put two of every animal on board....and a guy came home to find his wife preggo from a SKY DADDY? Yeah sure bless, you are WAY more intelligent....pffft
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 I pray that God will convict you for your sins, that you may be saved by them. :) I love you, friend.
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473
Awwww, that's nice. Thanks!
But ya know, the Religious Dogma you cast does more harm than good! No kidding and no offense. When Hagee says the rotten things about gays, he does nothing but hurt christianity. Btw,i am straight.
Peace:)
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 Well :). One thing that Christians represent is Christ's love for homosexuals. You see, Pastor Hagee has a loving heart; he has his own way of showing it. The reason why he is so harsh isn't necessarily because he wants to bash homosexuals; he just wants to wake the nation up and bring them to someone that can truly bring them joy and peace, Jesus. But um. We aren't supposed to hate homosexuals, just their actions. And homosexuals by orientation can still go to heaven.
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473
A loving heart by stating that "strange things in the closet should stay there"
Are you kidding me?
And Joy and Peace? Are you saying all christians have joy and peace and gays do not?
And so you also expect gays not to be with anyone, and its ok to be gay but not to be with anyone at all in their life? Do you or does GOD honestly expect this to happen?
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 Those are good questions. :) There are many people with homosexual orientations that wish to overcome those orientations. Thousands upon thousands of valid accounts of people overcoming those orientations ensure that. And I can see a few people lying about it just to prove a point, but the statistics ensure that these people (people that seek Christ) are as sincere as they can be. So :) there are people that do want to change. I suppose you're right, though, because not
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473
And why do those certain people wish to over come their homosexuality addy?
I would say it is from guilt put upon them by the religious folk and bigoted people.
What would you say if YOU had a gay child? A child afraid to come out, or someone who was depressed because even his own parents dont think he/she is right?
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@Addy4473 Well lol thank you for the respectful thing, I suppose :). I appreciate it. To answer your questions; First of all, the average life-span of a heterosexual male is around 70 years. The average life-span for a homosexual male WITHOUT AIDS/HIV is around 40 years. Those are the numbers! :) But um. As for religious implications. I will be totally honest here. I had a very strong homosexual orientation. However, through Christ Jesus (and not through my own efforts) that attraction is
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473 ideas are subject to flaw and change, and that we can't rely on our own ideas of right and wrong. Why, even my Bible shows a group of people that enjoyed murdering innocents! God, of course, pays those that pursue injustice with justice,and these people were paid for their sins. I can't remember the full story, but I mean, there are people who don't even care about right or wrong, they only care about their own personal happiness; thus, they bend their rules in order to find happiness
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473 and thus throw away right and wrong. My friend, in your OPINION, and in other's opinions, homosexuality is okay. But is that true? Of course not. I don't believe in my opinion; I believe in God's truth. His truth has never mislead anyone; His truth has led me down the path of righteousness, and His truth has stood firm throughout the years. God will stand true. Throughout the years, those that have followed His word have prospered spiritually, and live with joy in their hearts. :)
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473
No you see, homosexuality to YOU is not ok, but to the rest of us, it is ok.
Of course it is.
And Addy, do you expect people to change by coming on here and preaching what YOU believe. Again, no offense, but i am sure a Muslim could sit down with you and call you an infidel, correct?
Many athiests, agnostics, and christians have turned their lives around, and i feel, it is out of sheer positive thinking or to improve ones life. It Does not mean it was from a "God" necessarily!
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 Well believe what you may, my friend. I give the credit to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Positive thinking hasn't helped me in the past, so I can't credit my change through that. And of course it isn't okay to me! But it originates from God's truth. His truth has shown me how destructive it is. Now then. As I said, in an atheistic world, who is to say who is right or not? But in a world where God rules supreme, we have an ultimate moral mindset to follow by, one that has
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473
How many wives did Abraham have again?
Positive thinking has helped me, very much so!
So you think your change comes from a God you think you know exists? Ok, thats fine, cool, good. In a world where GOD rules SUPREME?? Ummmm, ok, no!
Only the religious believe this. Not everyone, and that too is fine!
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 So, if I were to take your argument and turn it on you, I could easily say that you believe that science, probability, chance, philosophy, and logic reign supreme. Of course, I know that God reigns supreme. But can you say with 100% certainty that God doesn't exist? Nothing you have submitted proves that God doesn't exist. Or even that a higher authority doesn't exist. And Abraham having 2 wives? I don't remember how many he had, exactly, but of course, you have to understand
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 the situation. And I'm sure it has for you, my friend. It has for me too. But it all comes from God, and that is something I've ensured. Now, which seems probable to you; the fact that we are all creations of chance? (In which, those odds are ironically miraculous?) Or that we have objective purposes in our lives? That we don't support one another just to further the human race; that we love one another, that we try to bring others into an eternity that is void of suffering?
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 Without God, life is insanity. It's live by your own philosophy, do what makes you happy, whatever the obstacle. And even should you try to find purpose without God, it will fail as time elapses. But with God, everything you do is out of love, a sincere love that isn't limited to emotions, but is done out of Christ's uplifting of your soul. Everything I type tonight is done out of love for you and ultimately for God. So. :)
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473
Without GOD life is insanity? No offense, but who are you to say this?
Have you interviewed the entire populace of the world?...lol
But that is cool Addy and what YOU believe ok? Dont impose your beliefs and feelings, experiences on others....no offense k?
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 yet to fail anyone who follows it lovingly. I love Him so much. :)
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 everyone wants to. And yes, I want them to change, but for their safety. It's an extremely unhealthy lifestyle. I feel the same way towards heterosexuals that engage in forms of sexual intercourse displeasing to God, because it only ensures destruction in the future. Too many times, I've heard accounts of people that feel used, isolated, and disgusted after committing sexual sins, both homosexual and heterosexual. But I suppose some people are happy with that choice; but that
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 As for homosexuals not being with anyone; as I stated previously, many homosexual orientations can be overcome. If not, the attraction can be reduced to a mere speck. Heterosexual attractions can increase; in all of the cases I read, they gave their hearts to God and Jesus healed them. You can believe that or not believe it, but it doesn't matter; they know it. :) I know that God has rebuilt me from the sorry human being I was into the follower of Christ I am today. It had
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473
You do realize that both the AMA and APA have stated that attempts at changing someone's sexual orientation causes MORE harm than good right?
You say you have been rebuilt from Gods good graciousness, or one might say it was mere positive thinking and even an atheist can repare ones life addy by doing things differently...whether it is "god" or not, no one knows!
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 nothing to do with my efforts; they all failed. But yes, I have overcome through His grace. :) And my God is the God of the impossible. So yes, I know He can help anyone through that struggle. God is amazing indeed :) As for pastor Hagee, like I said, he is a loving man. Yes, he possesses his flaws, but who doesn't? I'm not here to judge; also, you might want to analyze your actions, my friend. He thrives to please God, despite his wants; He also wants to help others out there.
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473 The one thing i will "pat you on the back" for Addy though is this:
1 Peter 3:15 (New International Version)
But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect...key word i guess...RESPECT:)
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 as for you, it seems as though you want to bash Mr. Hagee and anyone that might support him. It seems rather hateful to me. But I love you. And that's why I'm here to discuss this with you :) I'm no better than you are. I am a sinner too. Except I'm saved through grace; I wish for you to experience this amazing feeling!
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473
I want to bash Mr Hagee, who calls my gay brother something strange that should stay in the closet? And Mr Hagee who states that stay at home dads are going to hell and lazy? What do you expect addy, really?
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@Addy4473
Another thing that upsets people too addy,
Exodus 21:7 ...does this mean i can sell my daughter into slavery?
Exodus 35:2....work on the sabbath you should be put to death?
Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments Addy, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced. Mark 10:1-12
And yet religion seems to be stuck on this homosexual "abomination"????
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 Exodus 35:2 is a day dedicated to the Lord. There is an example of a man that was executed for working on the Sabbath; for one, He disobeyed God, knowing God's law; also, he was probably trying to increase his own personal gain by working on a day that noone else worked on, possibly trying to get ahead of the crowd. The Sabbath day gives us rest, and also allows us to give praise to God for His glory :). It's an awesome law, and although we are free from the punishment,
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 Mark 10:1-12 yes divorce is forbidden in both testaments, in order to protect the sanctity of marriage. In that same passage, Jesus affirms His Father's purpose for marriage. Genesis 2:24 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh". It doesn't mention divorce, nor same-sex relations, but strictly heterosexual relationships. This justifies my next point; anything outside of God's idea for marriage distorts the
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 true idea of marriage, and only causes pain. You claim that plenty of homosexuals are healthy. I'm not claiming that every homosexual is unhealthy; however, as I've said, the average life spans is proof enough. Studies show that their relationships for the most part do NOT work out. :( 73% of homosexuals claim that they are not happy. that leaves 23%, and we don't know their conscience live nor how they fair. As for your statistics, I don't know AMA or APA. But I will say that
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 contradicts the many stories of people who have overcome their orientations. Thousands upon thousands. While it may be unhealthy to try to change your orientation by yourself, God can help you to overcome homosexual temptations, orientations, attractions, etc. if you rely on Him; but you can't do it by yourself. You have to let Him take care of you! :) Well Pastor Hagee, he doesn't want homosexuals to go to hell, and he doesn't want to lie to people. He wants to honor and glorfy
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 God. So :) That's why he says what he says; to give God the glory. He loves Him, and knows that God's rules against homosexuality are for their protection. You see, in a world where God doesn't exist, who am I to that you are wrong, and I am right? Who are you to say that I am wrong and you are right? We would contradict one another, and moral righteousness could not be discovered through our opinions or speculations of right and wrong. We would only discover that our own moral
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 almost completely gone. I can look at a female and find attraction in her (which is different from lusting, I just find more attraction in females than I do males). I overcame this homosexual attraction through the almighty power of Jesus Christ. You can claim anything you want against this evidence, but this is a claim that I would know more about than anyone else, except for Jesus, of course. So I use this example in full truth. I've had other mental problems as well, only to
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 overcome them through Jesus' blood. There is an example to ya. I've never given into the orientation; even if I were an atheist, I would be against homosexuality. I mean, in atheism, there is no right or wrong, just relevant moral fabrics that are either self-fabricated or adopted, all originating from human beings, which are prone to error and in fact are not stable. In terms easier to understand, in an atheistic world, we can't rely on our own moral standards because they are
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 subject to change. That is why we CAN rely on God's standards, which are firm and constant. God never changes, though we do. Anywho. As for Exodus 21:7, you need to read the entire passage before you analyze the meaning behind it. Read 21: 1-11. They are treated like servants, not slaves. It protects her from working as a male servant does, and It protects her from being sold to foreign tribes, etc. because the Hebrew people were under God's personal protection.
Addy4473 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 But um. anywho. Through Jesus' blood we can be saved. And homosexuals can overcome their temptations and orientations, even, through Him. It's true. :)
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473
Why would you expect any gay person to want to change?
According to you and your beliefs you want them to change, sure.
And throught Jesus's BLOOD? HUH? That somehow sounds kind of cannibalistic!F?
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 doesn't mean it's right. A selfish heart pursues sexual lust outside of the boundaries of marriage (a man and a woman, of course). And our joy and peace is something that composes of the Holy Spirit. It's different from the "happiness" that homosexuals have. It's stable; it's secure; it ensures comfort during suffering. Joy is not happiness, but something greater than happiness. :) It's something I've experienced, definitely. :) Um....
Addy4473 1 year ago
@Addy4473
And why do you call two people, who are gay, in love with each other "lust"?
And change for their safety? PLENTY of gays are healthy, in fact, more so than you or I.
Its nice that you care, but this is coming from your belief and not from reality...no offense. You seem to think all gays are wild, sexually immoral people, which sure, some are but not all just like hetero's.
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@blessedinpark
Tell you what tough nuts, why dont you talk your shit to my face?
You are pretty fucking tough behind your computer aren't you!!
Why dont you PM me and we can get togehter sometime for a "coffee"
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@blessedinpark
Like John Fat Ass Hagee, "blessed" is the Fog Horn Leg Horn of Religion
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123
Ok, I guess after your rude, obsene comments, i am no longer going to waste any more time with this back and forth chat. Take care, and i hope you get out of life something better than all this negativity you are full of.
blessedinpark 1 year ago
@blessedinpark DONT act so innocent pal, "retard" "fitasafag"
I dont play with Barbies either sony boy!
You take care too, how's that?! Not so hard was it!
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@blessedinpark Because religious nut jobs are destroying this country.
y2knoproblem 1 year ago
@TranshumanCyborg Wye would he watch gay porn now just think.
KalebKansas 1 year ago
To those who would say these Christian messages are based on outdated thinking, please remember that God is the same today as He was 2 thousand years ago, and He will be the same 2 thousand years from now. What was right or wrong in the sight of God back then remains today. There ARE moral absolutes. The Godless would lead you to believe that all is relative but I plead with you to see the deception as it is. Please accept God's truth while you can.
mauimom67 1 year ago
Actually being gay IS a choice. If your read in Romans 1:26-27, it states that women who change the natural use for what is against nature, or men leaving the natural use of the woman, and burn in lust for each other, commit what is shameful and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.Then go to 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.Do not be deceived.Neither Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves,nor drunkards will inherit the kingdom of God.
blessedinpark 1 year ago
@blessedinpark
Yeah, SO WHAT. It also talks about talking snakes and talking burning bush's in the Bible Bless. Whats your point?
Try picking up some well documented fact based information on homosexuality that has been studied and researched and not thought up by some desert nomads. No offense but really.....
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
is he serious????
crystal15000 1 year ago
I feel sorry for Sandy, somebody get the CPS to get her out of this fat tub of lard's house.
RySenkari 1 year ago
im an atheist
and i hate queers too
sammysole1 1 year ago
@sammysole1
I would like to direct EVERYONES attention to the simpleton "sammysole"
THIS is the kind of IDIOT that Fat Ass John Hagee gives fuel too.
You hate Queers numb nuts? Yeah, so, queers love you!
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
Isn't it strange; Jesus said not a word about homosexuality, but said plenty about fat, arrogant, pious, pride fuelled preachers that used their flocks to get rich. Strange that Hagee doesn't mention that.
'You're not from my world, and I'm not from yours.'
Well, by your own admission, your world is long gone, so stop trying to interfere in and fuck up mine.
mw2000 1 year ago
'I was born in 1940, before gay rights,' and black rights, and women's rights. Fatty's right! These things are destroying America! Put darkie back in the 'cane field! Put women back in the kitchen! We'll make an oven with braces she can kneel so you can fuck'er right there. Put the washing machine and dryer in there with'er and she wouldn't have to leave. Where the fuck are the engineers? Quit wasting time!
MyOldName 1 year ago
I don't know what's more offensive, his pompous attitude or his lack or care for human rights...
QueenShnoogleberry 1 year ago
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julie2branden 1 year ago 4
@julie2branden
Well DUH, no two guys cant make a baby nor can two women!
SO WHAT?! I am sure the adopted abused child from a straight married couple would not complain, just the religious and homophobes would! !
Also, INFERTILE couples cant make babies either!
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
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julie2branden 1 year ago
@julie2branden Being gay is not wrong. It is the way people are born. It's not common but it's the way people are born. Just like being left handed....let's just say being left handed is wrong. And actually it used to be. The catholic church thought that anyone who was left handed was demon possessed. But we know now it's a crock of shit. There is nothing wrong with being gay. It's hate from homophobic people like you and fatso Hagee
fasteddie847 1 year ago
@julie2branden
Nah, to you its wrong and no, its not a choice.
Show me ONE credible health organization that says homosexuality is a choice.
" homosexuality thus far is due to genetic and environmental factors, likely in combination. Other factors that may play a role include prenatal hormone exposure, where hormones play a role in determining sexual orientation as they do with sex differentiation"
So Julie, no offense, i tend to listen to people who study this..not stories from a book!
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@julie2branden
I am straight, i dont remember choosing to be straight?!
When did you choose to be straight Julie?
So what are you saying then Julie, gays are actually not gay, they are actually straight?
pfft....
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123 All im gonna say is that its gonna be really hard for you to be an atheist when you are on your death bed. I will pray for your unbelief.
julie2branden 1 year ago
@julie2brand
Thats all you are going to say? Well GEE, aren't you just the cheery one by leaving me with that lovely thing to say.
pffft
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@julie2branden
Seriously, What do you EXPECT from people that have NEVER been raised in a religious family or even exposed to any church? Just willy nilly drop everything by what YOU say? Threats?
Lady, you are doing more harm than good by saying that crap! !
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
@julie2branden you are wrong on so many levels. You can't use the bible because the bible also states eating shellfish, polycotton blends, and planting crops of a different kind are a sin. You can't cherry pick. Also if marriage was just for birthing, then by your own admission the old, infertile, and those who choose not to have children can't get married.
"we can change our actions" by your own admission you can be gay.
Epic fail regroup and try again.
questionsamson 1 year ago
@julie2branden Just how two women can't make a baby.
Consumerofknowledge 1 year ago
@julie2branden So if homosexuals can't have babies together then what of the heterosexual couples that are infertile? are you damning them as well as those you are calling sinners? are they to go to hell as well, or does your god only have rules for some and not others- i know my God, Jesus, is fair and just, and isn't prejudiced against anyone for their sexuality, race, or age.
shadowactress 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle I don't know your family how can I insult them lol. I don't try to insult nobody who do you think I am. I just try to help people on the wrong path.
keithbyrd10 1 year ago
@keithbyrd10
No, not you keith, i was referring to Hagee.
And on the wrong path? Ok, but that is what you think keith, and i appreciate the kind words in fact but our family and my brother are just fine. But if you think that way, hey, its a free country.
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
fdg
hyphoid 1 year ago
@fitasafiddle123. Pat Robertson don't have a thing to do with John Hagee! Pat talks about christianity and misinterpred what God said or God might not have said those things it might just be Pats predictions. John is a pastor and knows the Bible and I don't remember him making any predictions. But I think most people has to be a Christian to understand Christianity or they will belive what they want to belive!
keithbyrd10 1 year ago
@keithbyrd10
Well then, John Hagee can SHUT his mouth when talking about my gay brother.
YOU think what you want and that is fine, but dont EVER insult my family and we will get along jiffy!
Peace:)
fitasafiddle123 1 year ago
Amen preacher!...that's exactly what it says in my bible as well
lofootball78 1 year ago
@bernytheplayboy No God don't hate nobody and yes we have all sinned but you can ask for forgiveness and go on and live a normal life which being gay or lesbian means your living in sin but God allows us all to choose our life styles whether it's right or wrong! So everbody can choose to live for God or the devil. Pastor Hagee is just doing what God is telling him to do belive it or not
keithbyrd10 1 year ago