Practical Common Lisp

[zhengyi13]

Interesting to hear this guy introducing his talk by recapitulating Sapir-Whorf...

[MrAbaza2222]

bla bla bla .......????!!!!!!!

[immak4u]

the book is good. the presentation sucked. period.

[UplandBill]

If the book is anything like this presentation, then I don't think I will buy it.

[immak4u]

@UplandBill you dont have to buy the book. its free on the author's website: gigamonkeys (dot) com / book/

[MegaEdenvale]

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LISP AND AUTOLISP(CAD)

ENJOYED THE VIDEO BY THE WAY, AND YES I WATCHED THE WHOLE THING!

[ProgramaLauraDeTodos]

@MegaEdenvale Lisp is a family of programming languages, including Common LISP, Scheme and Clojure (to name a few). AutoLISP is a dialect of LISP.

[XDCheyXD]

whats a lisp

[bootiack]

what diff functon macro really chokedhimup

[bootiack]

cant subroutines hide big ugly procedures?

[bootiack]

I was looking for more ofa lisp kicks java ass heres how: 1 2 3 4 5

[bootiack]

seems like it could all be done esier with data driven programming

[twiinStriing]

2ad riight? lii2p, nah ii can liive wiith iit

[bcueflores]

@twiinStriing omg i love you

[twiinStriing]

2ad riight? lii2p

[botkyrkakillen]

oh, and I thought this would help me stop lisping. :(

[trillitube]

I have troubles with a sound sync. Is it possible to get this video in mp4?

[zoice]

I really liked this talk, could be a few minutes shorter but It's pretty informative and mouth watering. I wouldn't be too surprised if it actually made a few people look into Lisp.

[elidawify]

Someone jump in a time machine and tell John McCarthy to call Lisp something else for the love of !@#$, we're up to our asses in lulcatzers over here :D

[Lolzafish123]

I watched the entire thing.

[javyisthis300]

1 hour...long..?Can I...Can I really watch all of this..?

[haydegger]

This presentation has a relly nice intro on theory of programming languages. Even if you don't plan to learn Lisp, you will hear about many abstract concepts and terminology in programming.

[jadlerhalofan]

Am I the only person that doesn't understand LISP because of Java?

[non91]

@jadlerhalofan yes?

[Madsy9]

@jadlerhalofan No, I don't think you're alone. It might be quite an overturn to go from algol languages like C, C++, Java and C# to the Lisp family of languages. I feel the same way. It's just like learning a new spoken language; you slowly learn new words and concepts with new semantic meanings. Then you realize that the languages you know affects the way you reason about problems, because the ideas you can express in a language is restricted by that language's semantics.

[FLESKFIST]

I schought thisch wasch about schomesching elsche

[ircas89]

@FLESKFIST AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[ZeranZeran]

@FLESKFIST I fuckin' lol'd hard.

[tieden55]

I don't know, I think the Blub is real. I struggled to understand true programing until I began to learn lisp. And before that I was just a javascript and python guy, lisp just looked like gibberish to me then. After I learned it I realized what I was missing and subsequently I found myself programming better python and javascript after that. In fact if I were attribute anything for ascending my skills in programming the most I would point to lisp.

[emeka1978]

I wished i had learned Lisp before java.

[shadowario]

Why the FUCK is one hour wasted on FUCKING LISP!

[Ehal256]

why was 5 decades wasted on reinventing all the features that lisp pioneered in the 50's?

[notbored12]

Linguistic determinism has been debunked.

[notbored12]

Not one of the best talks Google has posted by far.

[anisage4]

@notbored12 How so? where are your citations? or is troll your citation?

[notbored12]

@anisage4

It's easy to research, I'm sure there's even something in the relevant Wikipedia entry.

[Cyanesence]

wow, is this really 1 hour and 12 minutes? I thought you couldnt upload anything over 10 mins on youtube?

[MANGOROCKN]

Its google. Special accounts get certian rules of there own. Bullshit really.

[Dwarf1337]

@Cyanesence This is google. Google is in cahoots with youtube.

[jadlerhalofan]

@Dwarf1337 Google owns Youtube.

[Dwarf1337]

@jadlerhalofan No shit.. I said Cahoots.in cahoots (with somebody) collaborating with somebody,

[dJoeG111]

@Dwarf1337 Cahoots implies secrecy and collusion.

[Dwarf1337]

@dJoeG111 Yep. Exactly what Google is doing.. They plan to Take over the world

[darkknightbob101]

you can if its low file szize

[ShadowSharkTV]

@Cyanesence hes a partner..

[MEGASAINTSFAN25]

STOPPED AT 40 SEC

[acidtoyman]

Seibel doesn't even start until a minute in. Why did you even start if you weren't going to wait for him to come on?

[Hatchwork]

WTH .. I don't understand this..

[icnerds]

1 hour video

[mosrite2]

Right, generic functions provide a muuuch more flexible way of conceiving the relationship between methods and the data objects private to class instances. It lets you easily mix functional programming with OOP. Steele as much as says this in the second edition CLTL, though, doesn't he? I'm curious as to what Seibel adds to that in his book.

[consensi]

This is one of the most tedious videos I ever had

the misfortune to try to watch. Couldn't take

more than six minutes.

[781230xy]

six minutes? hahaha I couldn't even handle sixty seconds!

[bingbangbingbangbong]

I realli CBA to watch this

[LDNxBASSIST]

innit i thought this was about the lisp is when u say "s" like a "th" wat is this about? lmao

[Inaimathi]

This is about a computer language named "LISP"

[gigimcck]

a 1 hour vid?

[CarlosJulio20]

they are google, they can do whatever the fuck they want, just like Chuck Norris.

[gigimcck]

jeesh, calm down

[micwilms]

you can enounce myspeed this video to learn the important stuff in less time

[gigimcck]

ooh

[SwordMasterCloud]

wow....and i thought 15 min vids were a worry

[Devourer09]

Off sync audio FTL. :(

[primeq]

This should have been done in 15 minutes instead of over an hour. I can only hope that his book shows better organization of ideas and clearer thought than this presentation.

[acfoever]

i dont even no what hees talkin aboout he jus made mi head hrt even more... does any 1 noo what a lisp is if so like could yall reply?

[icankickflipyay]

cute. lisp.

[bootiack]

plan9 from bell labs makes em think perhaps c is awesome and if you know it you can make friging kick ass stuff liek plan9 why does sybel not see bel go on and on about visitor pattern, and assuming peolpe know java

[killacj]

r u dyslexic

[megoogler]

i wonder describing lisp in terms of modern languages is a good approach or not ... as far as i know a whole set of features of lisp are a sub set of features in language like java. ppl who are new ... watching this video may make them search and relate most of the things in java which lisp doesnt have. would have been better if lisp is described as it is.

[nsakic]

I have always been interested in lisp. I bought his book. I will go through it. It looks interesting.

[moshpot25]

its

not

playing,

you gay !!!!

[extension1337]

Interesting. I definitely wouldnt call this a neutral agnostic delivery, but more like a lisp sales pitch, however very interesting after about the 17 minute intro. On a side note, maybe Im just silly but wouln't it have been a good idea to have good lighting? Seriously were the lights turned off because, most of the time he never used the projector screen behind him at all, and I had to squint to see him.

[SweeneyLovers]

*snore* Dang thats long! Im glad i noticed how long it took rather than watching the whole thing!

[bluesrunthegame]

This is so much better than sleep.

[peotrovitch]

So right at the end, he was about to tell us why Lisp is not the most popular language ... and the video cut off. Ahhh!

OK not because of any inherent s/w insufficiency, then it must be sociological?

Siebel may not be the easiest speaker to listen to, but the topics of multiple dispatch, condition handlers and macros are worth considering. A taste of lisp power.

Perhaps the issue is where he touched on Lisp being maleable. We can do great things with it, and unconstructive things too ...

[xoaliishaax3]

by the way this is fucking stupiddd. :]

like 5imian.

btw, wtf kinda screenname is that? :]

[5imian]

Its not stupid- Its an intelligent comparison between linguistics an modern coding languages. This guy is considered an expert in the List processing language community.

As for my name, do a search for "simian" on wikipedia and learn something.... this coming from a guy who looks like his keyboard took a dump in the name field of his user info.

Xoalilshaax3? i cant even pronounce that. Seriously..stop being a youtube flamer. Dont do drugs.

[horneyvirus]

dude.. you have a myspace page.. kill yourself before you procreate.

[5imian]

Yeah, i use it to post videos about the robots i build and music i write. I have a degree in music and use Lisp to write generative music. I like to share my work with friends and family. Myspace is pretty user friendly for non-techies so its a good forum to do that. I don't check it much and certainly wouldn't consider myself embedded in the "myspace community".

You are pretty lame to be looking me up on myspace just to flame me. At least i do something i care about and put it out there.

[horneyvirus]

i flamed you because you have a superiority complex. now stfu and go back to myspace little girl.

[5imian]

Have fun trolling the Google tech talk videos you worthless sack of crap. Judging from our respective video feedback, I would say that my "superiority complex" (yeah right) is completely overshadowed by your raging stupidity.

Oh, and i am definitely not a little girl. That would be your overactive imagination and sick fantasy life. Go away.

[xoaliishaax3]

lisps are sexy (:

bishhh.

[5imian]

JEsus, all you people flaming this video- what did you expect? Its an informative video about list processing... you should be thankful this kind of information is free. LISP is a powerful language, and is used in things like artificial intelligence. David COpe, a composer, even models a program that could reproduce any musical style with LISP. GO somewhere else to watch stupid webcam speeches from idiots and cats falling diwn stairs.

[horneyvirus]

yeah but i didn't learn jackshit about lisp. and this video has nothing to do with lisp. this shit isn't even tangential to lisp.

[bootiack]

I agree that thsi guy has never been on stage, he is an awful speaker, and very un interesting. He should stick to fun basic ideas and differentiation, instead of trying to play to a crowd of nerd programmers who read goofy crap liek java design patterns which are shit. I want to know why he would do x in lisp and how it would kick javas or pythonsd ASS. Not every person is a linguistics nerd.

[snapcrklpoplokndrop]

this is so frikin lame, it is almost half as retarded as the people in it...waste of 1:12:09

[c101011]

lol, you're a stupid cunt.

[horneyvirus]

what a fucking waste of an hour and a quarter.

[footbllrdude16]

wtf y would someone post a video 72 minutes long?

[imetbeyonce]

aww hell naw! this might as well be a feature Film!!

[nicole4310]

72 minutes?! damn

[FUELEDinENERGY1]

how the fruck is this 72 minutes?

[blackwaterfun]

Paul Graham made 50,000,000 by selling yahoo his viaweb. NICE! I deal w java all the time and so many erros are liek window.....just reboot tomcat etc etc.......sems sloppy and crazy language.......and 8million frameworks etc. show taht java alone nto enuf guntgank!!

[maidenman33]

72 fkn minutes, who the fuck would watch this lmao

[ETowne82]

did you guys see the end???it is madd funny

[bigbeckster1234]

ur a tropper if you saw the end

way to go

[1994cg]

no its not. theres nothing funny

[xoaliishaax3]

holy fucking shitt !

i looked at sonics comment it was like u'll be a legend if u watch it and im like ohh it cant be that long right ? 72 MINUTES !??! LONGEST VID ON YOUTUBE HOLY SHIIITTTT bahahah:)

omg i cant even load a 5 minutes vid on youtube! how do you possibly upload a 72 minute video ?!?! thats nuts ! is must've taken days ! lmao. :D

[5imian]

Google owns youtube you !@#$# idiot.

They can put whatever they want on here! And they are putting out informative tech talks. if you don't like it go elsewhere.

[xoaliishaax3]

ur a fucking loser.

[SonicThaHedgehogg]

ur a legend if u watch the whole thing hahaha or a loser

[blackwaterfun]

I think he lets the crowd control the actin too much, ends up as random babbling......gak....I really want to see some good apps come from lisp...

[mediumsteve]

i thought this was going to be a video teaching me how to talk like a gay man, i'm disappointed.

[Burtonracingboard6]

thats the longest video i have ever seen not that i watched it.

[SecretTheatre]

Alan Kay (originator of the term 'object-oriented programming')on Lisp: "The greatest single programming language ever designed."

[SecretTheatre]

@SecretTheatre And three years later - earning a living as a Lisp programmer - I stand by my comment. ;)

[bootiack]

A bit long winded, and the hater get too much air time. I wish more lisp people would have some apps to point at though...... I mean people really do want RESULTS not hey this is cool macros are cool blah...... but I admire the guy for doing the book and for trying at least to get some word out vid wise. I wish he had soem working CMS app or some working website or some damn thigns to SHOW though.

[AdleyJulian]

Yahoo store and Orbitz both use Lisp.

[bootiack]

I found a lisp DNS server, then it was yanked from the web........ where are the lisp apps? I want lisp database, DNS, more web stuff.......jesus this guy is an aweful speaker...painful to try and rewatch......He needs to be more liek an enlish orator.....speak in term of ideas.......too bad lisp has such poor communicators promoting it.......bleh I lvoe paul graham saying "I happen to think that common lisp is the best way to get work done" that was in yer face and awesome

[TheGzeus]

His book has substance than Graham's philosophy/wistful life stories.

I found it funny that when his allegedly amazingly better Arc, when released was basically...Scheme.

Then one guy came out and said "This is one feature short of the Lisp dialect that Sawfish uses. I like it, but it's nothing new."

[blackwaterfun]

arc is resting on top of scheme ya boner!

[TheGzeus]

...I know. What does that have to do with anything?

That's an IMPLEMENTATION. Not a LANGUAGE. What point are you trying to make. Mine is Arc is basically more terse rep with some web stuff in the standard library.

[mrmiyati]

I am soooo not watching this whole thing

[blackwaterfun]

python is for lisp wana beez

[gisoin23]

WTF i dont get this He doesn't even talk about Lisp I just watched This damn video for nothing.

[SecretTheatre]

Doesn't talk about Lisp? What?

[cmxcmx]

If you did watch the whole thing you'd know that he does talk about Lisp quite a lot.

[bootiack]

yeah he does babble way too friggin much..............I think paul grahams book ansi common lisp I will try and reread --- this gusy book kinda turned me off in first two chapters....I want real computer scientists using thsi to eb liek blam in yer face I can make the computer do this way easier and way less code and python is bullcrap