The ONLY reason theres problems in the middle east is when an Athiest country such as America, who totally forgot about God, decides to kill millions of peaceful muslims for money and for the terrorist state of israel.If you want peace take the entity out of the middle east, and stop killing the arabs.My american government is being bought out to legalize these killings.. just remember next time you see someone you love, how will you react when someone kills them? GOD bless the FREEDOM For ALL
Vietnam is the most violent country I have ever been to (and I've been to most countries on all spectrums of this list including those in the middle east). Additionally the only place I have ever seen someone brutally murdered in front of me was the Czech Republic. For starters I would question the accuracy of this list. Secondly I'd say Sweden being at the top has more to do with their socio economic status than religion.
@bluzercic Yes, unlike you I don't go off blind faith in what someone else reports (most likely someone who has never been to the countries in discussion). I use real first hand data.
XD Man, are you really that stupid? The GPI uses official data from the respective crime and health departments of the countries as well as census data. Are you suggesting that we ignore those facts that draw the whole picture and make do with your single, personal experiences? All Indians walk in single file, right..?
@MsHyde1 Are you really that stupid? Do you think countries that are extremist dictatorships like vietnam hand over real data? Do you think their government even tracks real data?
When have you been to Vietnam? In the 70ies? XD And my best friend so a person getting shot when she lived in the US for one year. That was a couple of years ago. So yeah, your personal experiences are so relevant. Not.
And if it is the socio economic status then when is the US so low on that list despite similar wealth as in the EU? Is the US a 3rd world country or something? Besides, that would only prove the correlation between religion and bad socio economical status.
@MsHyde1 Obviously its relevant compared to people with no world experience, knowledge of world governments, or clue as to what goes on in the world around them. I reside in the Philippines,I routinely pay off government officials. The same has applied when I've been in numerous former soviet countries. If your stupid enough to think it has anything to do with religion, perhaps I should just allow you to be content reading your government reported statistics and blindly believing its the truth.
Sweetie, you can argue about Vietnam all you like but the data from Europe and the US is undeniable.
Besides, fellow student when there for half a year three years ago to do conservation projects. They were moving around non-tourist areas and it was all perfectly peaceful, nothing happend at all. So there goes your value of "personal experience". You sound like a conspiracy theory nutcase.
As for former soviet countries. The worst that has happened to my parent while visiting many of those countrie for years was a stolen purse. So if you are constantly experiencing criminal activity in those countries I wonder if you are involved in such activity yourself. ^_^ You might also like to go to certain areas in oh so religious US cities, you will not survive for long..
And yes, religion breeds ingnorance, violence and bad living conditions and viseversa. The correlations are undeniable, just like the correlation between lack of religiousness and higher IQ. Shitty life causes religion like an infestation, religion causes shitty life. It is a vicious circle. ^_^ And before you start babbling about violent supression of the church, we are talking about modern, organic, voluntary atheism here.
NOW LETS TALK ABOUT PEACEFUL PEOPLE, THE USA AND ENGLAND WOULD BE RANKED AS AMONG THE LEAST PEACEFUL SINCE THEY ATTACK AND INVADE OTHER COUNTRIES AND THEY HAVE A COALITION FROM NORWAY SWEDEN AND OTHER SO SWEDEN AND NORWAY WOULD RANK AMONG THE LEAST PEACEFUL PEOPLE TOO. IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN ARE BEEN ATTACKED (NOT THE AGGRESSORS) SO THEY ARE CONSIDERED PEACEFUL JUST DEFENDING THEMSELVES..SO YOUR DATA IS NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT AND ANYONE CAN MAKE ANY DATA THEY WANT.
Iraq and Afghanistan are NOT considered peaceful in that GPI raking, you moron, quite the opposite. The GPI ranking takes many factors into account, not only war. You might want to look that up before you showcase your ignorance and come accross as a complete idiot with your capslock obsession.
Hm, lets see.. way more war, homicide/murder, rape, drug abuse, teen pregnancy, infant mortality, abortion, STD infection and bullying and better health care in religious countries (the US in this case) vs. more suicides in some of these EU countries... Hmmmmmmmm.. So difficult to decide which ones are worse. XD
What exactly are these statistics based on? Norway and Sweden have some of the highest rape rates in the western world. I would hardly call that peaceful.
I've asked me the same question some time ago, and i found out that the overwhelming percentage of rapist are immigrants with an islamic background. In Oslo for example we can see this development clearly. Just look for Oslo and rape and you will see.
@Baltazar234e So what? Who do you think is causing most of the violent crime in the US? Maybe when your continent is only 60% white like ours is you won't stick your noses up at us anymore!
And those blacks are not Christian? ^_^ Besides, the US has the same immirant % as Europe, while Europe has a 3-times higher overall population desity. So what is your excuse for being more violent, abusive, for more teen pregnancies, abotions and drug abuse and a shitty social system that spits on the less fortunate ones?
@MsHyde1 Last time I checked Europes non-white population was only at 10%. The US no-white population is about 30% including 11 million illlegal immigrats, thats not even including alot of hispanics who self identify as white.
Like I said before our problems with violence, teen pregnancy, and drug abuse are mostly because of our higher non-white population. Just Google our prison statistics and our teen pregnancy rates regarding race. The facts are there, you just have to look at them.
Last time I checked most of the US's non-white populartion was American, several generations, and christian, deeply so even. Last time I checked Europe had pretty much identical immgrant numbers and illegal immegrant rates. Last time I checked Europe had and overall 3-times higher population desity than the US (some countries much higher) which usually leads to more aggression and criminal activity.
Oh, and the US have the highest teen pregnancy and abortion rates in the most religious states in the bible belt. Not because of blacks but because christian religious fundies teach abstinence only and lie to kids about condoms and tell them sexuality is evil.
As for blacks.. why do you think they are the ones with the biggest problems regarding STD, contraception etc.? Same reason they have those problems in Africa: christian fundies!
Uganda had 15 years of decreasinh HIV infection rates. Then the US and various US christian fundie "charities" cut back condom supplies and started their insane abstinence only programs that hat already miserably failed in their own country. HIV infection rates doubled within one year. So please don't tell me religion is not the very motivator for those insanities.
Btw., you might want to google prison rates of atheists.. ^_^
Noch mal, die beiden Länder haben eine ganz andere Definition von "Vergewaltigung". Glückwunsch, wahrscheinlich warst du einer der Deppen, der diesen dämlichen Kommentar hoch-gevotet hat.
Man, are you stupid. Did you even bother to look up what Norway and Sweden define as rape?! They have a definition different from all other countries and thus cannot be directely compared to the rape rates of other countries that define rape the same!
Moron! Just like everyone who gives this ingorant numbskull a thumbs up!
I'm from Denmark, which is ranked as 80% atheist and number 2 in terms of peace.
Denmark is a small country with absolutely no political or military might - it's only power lies in cultural/scientific influence.
1000 years ago, Denmark was one of the mightiest countries of the world (at the time.) We're talking about British people praying to God to save them - not from the devil - but from Danes.
Things have gone downhill ever since we stopped raiding, raping and plundering.
COLOMBIA AND CUBA ARE CHRISTIAN NATIONS?!?! Yeah, something got skewed in the data. Cuba and Colombia are one of the world's #1 offenders for killing Christians or throwing them in jail.
@Legion719 I think the data is based on the population at large, not the personal beliefs of their ruling elites or the official government ideology. In both countries, the vast majority of the population is strongly Roman Catholic.
1. Soviet Union - Joseph Stalin: killed: 50 million people.
2. Nazi Germany - Hitler - killed: 45 million people.
3. Cambodia - Pol Pot - killed: 7 million people.
4. China - Mao Tse-tung - killed: 40 million people
All these mass murderous confirmed atheists. Peace has nothing to do with religion, it's only the moral character of the people that can bring people together. You can teach atheists to be dumb, as well as someone who's Muslim. It's only human development that can preach peace.
@TruthOasis Supporting the church does not make you a theist. Atheists can get married, but if you want to do it in a church, you have to pay. Same thing with funerals.
@TruthOasis Has it ever occurred to you that these people go to "church" to fit in and socialize just like most people in America? Polls represent this as most Scandinavians are atheists.
@TruthOasis When born in Sweden, you automaticly join the Church of Sweden. I do not know if it is like this in Denmark and Norway but it probably is. My point is that the membership doesn't necessarily mean faith.
@TruthOasis Are you fucking daft? Most Scandinavians becomes Church members upon birth. It doesn't mean they're religious. Just accept the fact that Atheism = more peaceful country and move on
1) Belonging to the Church of a country does not mean that you follow the religion of that church. The government of Finland automatically registers you into the Church of Finland at birth.
2) "...thousands of Muslims" are insignificant when it comes to populations in the millions. JS.
@TruthOasis In the UK 70% of people tick 'christian' on surveys and in the census, but only 38% believe in a god. Only 23% of Swedes believe in a god. Only 31% of Danes believe in a god. Only 32% of Norwegians believe in a god. These are stats from the Eurobarometer poll 2005. Now I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure you have to believe in God to be a christian.
@TruthOasis Funny thing about the North is that even though people are still members of the church, we do not believe in God. (When you are born you are automaticly given a membership in the corresponding church.) Some people are just too lazy to fill in the papers to leave it or just doesn't care. The statistics in the video are numbers based on polls etc. where people have been asked (in schools, on the street, etc.) if they believe in any kind of god. More than often the answer has been: No.
@TruthOasis membership in the church is not the same as being christian. A lot of Norwegians get baptized because it's a tradition. Most norwegians are agnostic or atheist, even though they are members of the church.
@TruthOasis hell, I'm a member of the Norwegian church and I'm an atheist. Most people are baptized because it's tradition. We get married in church, we have our funerals in church. In fact most Norwegian atheists are members of the church, but we only go there on special occasion and we don't bother to "cancel our membership" because it's a bit of a hassle, and we simply don't care..
@tossabaddle and a little quote of something my brother once said: "You know.. the few times we go to church it's cozy and stuff right..? But when I hare what is being said and sung, I just can't help but thinking: How stupid can you GET? It seems like a textbook case of brainwashing!"
@TruthOasis most of those people atleast in sweden are members of the church despite being atheists. im a member of the swedish church and im an atheist.
@TruthOasis Did you know that less than 1% of Swedes attend the Church? Also just because you're a member of the church doesn't mean you're actually religious. Many Swedes are baptized at birth, but almost never go to church and aren't religious at all.
@TruthOasis Me im part of the church but completely atheist. Its just my families belief. These statistics are the high end of the predictions. Sweden is 45-85% atheist, so your facts are true, but doesn't spell out their faith. I see that YOU are censoring information yourself. THUMBS UP SO PEOPLE CAN REALIZE THIS!
Censorship is the SUPPRESSION of speech or other public communication! I have not done that here or anywere else! I am strongly opposed to censorship of any kind!
@Thomaspegful You know I am actually kind of pissed that you accused me of that. But I am smart enough to know that not everyone with your point of view is a liar, just you the individual.
@TruthOasis You have the ability to turn around a good point to a false accusation in 3 comments, I respect that, but in the end run, what are you accusing me of doing? I don't lie, I researched my information, and yes you used the skill of omission , like myself, you told the members of the church in some countries, and I put the fact of the people of Sweden are 45-85,(actually46-85%) atheist. Why don't you post a comment on the % of atheists in each country, and church members??
@TruthOasis: You obviously have no clue about Europe whatsoever. XD Many EU countries have a state church and if your parents are member of that church, which they are most likely going back several generations, your are automatically a member the moment you are born. Most western and northern EU countries are already more than 50% up to over 80% non-theists, church attendence is down to under 10%, but still the majority is member of a church on paper because who cares?
@Talendiem Although your question was directed to eleutheromaniac, I would like to respond. You said "Even devote athiest Richard Dawkins himself is not a 7". Well, that is great for him. I do not know if your statement was intended to deter me from saying 7, but Dawkins view has no casual link with mine. I am a 7 (i.e. absolutely certain of no god) because I view the notion of God as self-contadictory. If my notion is true, then god does not exist is truth by analicity.
How the hell does Denmark get 2 but Sweden 6? Denmark are actually quite actively involved in the fighting in Afghanistan. Sweden is unfortunately there too but on a much less aggressive scale.
You forget that Buddhism does not technically require a belief in the resurrection cycle. Most Japanese or Chinese Buddhists believe in the philsophy, but not necessarily in the supernatural aspects. It's like western atheists who celebrate christmas. You accept it as your cultural heritage, but that alone doesn't make you religious.
@eleutheromaniac Taoism is a philosophy. Buddhism, you could be an Atheist and follow it. I believe that this is probably correct. Plus Shintoism isn't here as much anymore. There's mostly philosophies in Asia.
You are aware of the fact that most Buddhists are atheistic, right? You are also aware that many many Taoists think of the Tao as more of the Force from Star Wars than an omnipresent God, right? And I'm sure you took the 10 seconds necessary to Google "religion in Japan" to find a number other than 76%, right? I did. I found 64% from 2001 and 65% from 2004.
+/- 11% over 11 years and with a different survey is not mind-boggling.
@100percentrekkie have you read the Tao te ching? supplant the words "the Way" and "the Sage" with God (you could also do the reverse with the Bible and achieve the same effect). They are, in essense, conceptualizing the same idea. Similiarly, Buddha described Nirvana as "consciousness without end", is this not also an apt description for the Biblical "God"?
"You'll find that many of the Truths we cling to rely greatly on our own point of view." :P
@eleutheromaniac How difficult is it to do a simple wikipedia search? I just did it, it took me a few seconds, and now I know that the majority of Japanese are non-religious, and that the video poster is right. Go on, have a look, wikipedia - 'Religion in Japan'
@eleutheromaniac You should find out what Atheist means first befor you try to shut some one down. The 3 "religions" you mentioned all fall under the catergory of atheism. They do not believe in any deity.
@eleutheromaniac Did you know all Japanese people born need to be "baptized" in the Buddhist/Shinto way (I don't know what that's called though). However many people choose to not practice religion. I have this Japanese friend who told me that in Japan they have much more important things to do rather than praying to a statue.
A couple things wrong with this video: 1) it confuses cause and effect; in truth it is the fact that nations are peaceful which allows for non-religious beliefs, not vice-versa. as the saying goes 'there are no atheists in foxholes'.
2) Having no official religious denomination does not necessarily make one 'atheist'. I myself do not associate with any particular belief, but I am not atheist; yet under these statistics I would be counted as one.
@eleutheromaniac Actually, there are more atheists in foxholes - 21% of US military personnel are atheist or irreligious, which is up from 16.1% in the general population.
@LiberalIntervention again, as with this video, i believe that statistic to be misleading. that statistic is based on the form soldiers are asked to fill out when joining the military, correct?
so there are several variables to consider: are they--like me--simply not associated with any established doctrine, yet still hold a theistic belief? were they atheists when joining the military, but found God during war? or did they simply not wish to disclose their beliefs for whatever reason?
@eleutheromaniac I don't actually know the specifics of when in the soldiers term of service the study was conducted, only the statistic (which is from a paper for the Population Research Bureau - the link is on my pc, but maybe you can find it for me?). What I can do is point to a study of British soldiers (the UK being a less religious country) which found that 39% of British soldiers described themselves "atheists" (not non-religious) and a further 24% said that believed in a God but
@LiberalIntervention Continued disagreed with the statement "God takes a personal interest and answers prayers." (i.e they were Elightenment-style deists) I think atheism and military service is reflective of the status of atheism within the parent nation - the higher the percentage of atheists in the parent nation, the higher it will be in that nations military. Religion should be more than a crutch to get through stress - Primo Levi rejected God on the Auschwitz selection ramp.
@eleutheromaniac Actually it does make you one. If you have no belief you are by definition a-theist. Everyone if atheist by default. If you pick up a religion you becom theist.
@Demostravius it is not that i have 'no belief', it is that none of my beliefs would fall under one of the established religious doctrines. One does not need a Church or a synagogue or a mosque to find God.
In fact, Jesus himself was vehemently anti-Church. Nietzsche does a brilliant exposition of this fact in his book "The Anti-Christian", showing how people who call themselves 'Christian' today are actually following the teachings of Paul, often in *contradiction* to the teaching of Jesus
@eleutheromaniac While the term "Atheist" is used in the GPI, I believe that this was done in error. Take for example the statement made: "Peace is non-theistic". Theses stats usually lump agnostics in with atheists, as well as those that consider themselves spiritual, but non-religious.
@eleutheromaniac Also, I have a question for you. How likely do you think it is that there is no god or gods? Using a scale from 1-7, with 1 being absolute certainty, beyond any doubt that there is a god or gods, and 7 being absolute certainty that is NO god or gods. Where would you place yourself? Even devote atheist Richard Dawkins himself is not a 7.
@Talendiem i would put myself as a 1: absolutely certain. the question isn't if God is real, the question is: is anything else real? and the answer is 'no'; all is only a reflection--an image--of God Himself.
for me the "God" question is simply this: did consciousness create the universe--as a dreamer creates a dream, or did the universe result in the localized phenomenon called 'consciousness'?
@eleutheromaniac if you do not worship any religion, you are Atheist, you can still beleive there's a "god" out there, but thats the point of Atheism
if you are not part of a religion you are atheist, since you cant separate your self from the word, unless you actually some hoe worship something, then it makes it a religion....
This Video is WRONG i am from Norway and christians are still in majority althoug i am not myself. How come norway got an extremly peacefull score when we have been the agressor on all the major war theaters the last 10 years? and how did usa get halfway peacefull when they have been in almost ALL major conflicts the last 60 years ?
Currently, America is in 82nd place (behind such nations as Gabon and Egypt). How some Americans think their country is the best in the world is beyond me. It's probably the worst developed country in the world.
@kalbahamut The irrelevance of your travels aside, my comment is not a matter of belief; it's a matter of fact. Out of 153 countries, America is ranked on the GPI at number 82. That's not even in the top half. Yet, Americans are probably the most patriotic out of any nation. There's no reason that Americans should think their country is better than other countries, and this is because it simply isn't. High intentional homicide rate, low freedom of press ranking, low life expectancy, etc. etc.
@Straumnes, listen dumbass, the "GPI", which was pulled out of somebody's ass anyway, doesn't relate to how developed a country is. My statement stands. You are incredibly fucking stupid if you think the USA is the least developed country in the world. And even though this has nothing to do with being "developed", you realize that 82 is not the last number in a series of 153, right? (and that there are more than 153 countries in the world) Low freedom of press? wtf. retard.
@kalbahamut Apparently you can't read. I said that America is the worst developed country in the world, not the least developed country in the world. Huge difference. And as I said before, this isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. America is a country of ignorant morons who couldn't point out Mexico on a map. Yeah, 15 trillion in debt. Something to be really patriotic about! And I can't insult your intellect, because you have none. America is a joke to the world. Everyone knows this
@Straumnes I could whup your ass so bad in a geography bee, but whatever. You know what, shithead? EVERY country in the world asserts that they are the best. It's actually rather banal. However, when Sweden or Ireland or France or Saudi Arabia or the UK makes this assertion, nobody gets mad because its so hard to take such assertions seriously. We all just laugh and forget about it. When an American makes the same assertion, people take offense, because they know in their hearts it is true.
@Straumnes anyway, I'm very sorry that you live in some frozen wasteland where people left and right are killing themselves due to seasonal effective disorder, and that the greatest cultural achievement of your civilization was the systematic raping and pillaging of Europe for a few centuries. That must really suck. But try to get over it. You'll be a happier more well-adjusted person.
@kalbahamut It's spelled affective, and I'm not sure where you think I live but it doesn't get cold here. And speaking of happiness, according to a Gallup poll in 2011, the countries with the happiest respondents are in order Denmark, Canada, Sweden, Australia and Finland. America isn't even in the top 20 lol. And three of those countries DO get very cold in the wintertime. And please, if you want to have a discussion, stick to the facts. According to IQ and the Wealth of Nations
@Straumnes you accused me of not being able to read or get my facts straight when IQ and the Wealth of Nations, the soure you quoted, places America well ABOVE more European countries than it places it behind. Further, if you discount recent immigrants, also according to the same source, the USA scores better than EVERY European country, bar none. Your statement have progressed from the sort of outrageous stupidity one expects on YouTube to way too stupid to be for real. You must be trolling.
@kalbahamut Clearly I've won this argument. I've presented my objective evidence, and you have chosen to reject it for no logical or rational reason. That ultimately speaks for itself and for most Americans. And by you sayng that I'm a "festering rectal wart on Adolph Hitler's ass" (note: it's spelled Adolf), it's clear that I'm not having a discussion with a person of reasonable intelligence. End of discussion.
@Straumnes you haven't won jackshit. Like all Europeans, you are sitting frustrated and bitter in some decaying shadow of imperial power well past its prime, posting disparaging and wildly inaccurate generalizations about other, far superior nations, on the global network those superior nations invented using the language that is still relevant solely because of those nations' existence. You are a bigot, this is true, but also suffering a crushing inferiority complex as your kind do.
@Straumnes hem and haw and point to irrelevant fabricated numbers such as this global pussy index all you like, it doesn't change the fact that you are irrelevant. Nobody cares about you. You have been eclipsed and forgotten. And this is why you are bitter and angry and we all know it. I wouldn't expect the USA to win a contest of who has the weakest military anyway, since they enjoy a militaristic hegemony the likes of which the world has never known. But you use it as a point to try
@Straumnes and make yourself feel better. That's fine. Try. It doesn't change the facts of reality. I will go on being a content and well-adjusted individual, you will go on angrily masturbating into your Nazi flag wishing for days gone by and obsessing over typos posted on YouTube as this is the only area of your life where you can feel in control or superior. Pathetic. Truly, truly pathetic. Fuck you, you uninformed, bigoted, brainless, whining little troll. End of discussion.
Wtf? Did you honestly expect to finish an argument by saying that no one cares about the other person?
[a] that's irrelevant to whether or not he was right.
[b] *I* care because he IS right!
[c] ^ this, and I'm from America. You haven't presented a single fact. He has. From every debate standard I've ever seen, this was a veritable slaughter.
@100percentrekkie well.. he HADN'T presented a single fact... but your post, assuming you're not lying, DOES lend credence to his argument that all Americans are ignorant idiots. Fuck off, jackass. You're not so special and sophisticated that you've earned an exclusion from the bigoted remarks of others that include you. I'm not debating trolls, I'm speaking the truth.
@100percentrekkie hey if you can take a break from sucking your blow up Kirk doll's dick, why don't you look for "IQ and the Wealth of Nations." You will see that the facts *I* presented are actually factual, while what this other idiot said was totally made-up fabrication. He did not present one single fact. Who's the bigger jackass? The bigot who makes up false bullshit? Or the idiot who reads it in YouTube and believes it without checking? I'm not debating. I'm stating fact.
@kalbahamut "you will go on angrily masturbating into your Nazi flag wishing for days gone by" I don't know how old you, so I don't know whether or not you're a lost cause, but I hope for your sake that you ultimately learn how to have discussions with people with tact and class. And I'm not European -- I'm Canadian. Have a good day.
@kalbahamut American citizens in 2006 placed at number 34 in their rank of IQ behind almost every European country. And you are a shining example of an ignorant, arrogant America. You think you're better than everyone else even when the facts show that you aren't. Get over it and move on
@Straumnes I don't think I'm better than everyone. However I KNOW I am better than you. You are ignorant, bigoted garbage. The statements you've made are sub-Creationist. Beyond 911 Truther stupid. You have no grasp at all of facts whatsoever. You are totally and completely beneath me. You are festering rectal wart on Adolph Hitler's ass, a direct descendant of his intellectual legacy. You are a shining example of the fact that racism and unfounded elitism in Europe never actually went away.
@Straumnes Also, I'm much smarter than you. The average American is smarter than the average European. I'd suggest you look it up, but considering you are so unfathomably retarded that you believe some of the things you posted before, I have no confidence that you'd be able to. You can just accept my word for it. Averages aside, I'm much more intelligent than you are.
There is a problem in human society that is deeper than religion. Look around the world, poverty, death, disease, etc. Does religion contribute sometimes? Maybe. But you're lying to yourself if you think the absolute removal of religion will solve all the worlds ills. This attitude of "LETS BLAME RELIGION" is not helping anything.
Naturally religion and superstition are only symptoms of a greater underlying defect. In fact, the tendency towards belief in the supernatural as well as towards collectivism are genetic.
Basically religious people and collectivists are a genetically inferior strain of humans that has evolved differently. Sadly they also breed like rabbits, so they are the majority by now.
@Kuner1 Trololol. Well, humans are inherently selfish, biased, and easily coerced. People kind of suck, and no amount of atheism is going to fix that.
That is why Nietzsche said that "man must overcome himself" and strive to become the "Übermensch", compared to which today's man will look primitive like a worm, a creature ruled by its vices.
Nietzsche saw man as capable of greatness. No wonder the left has done everything it can to defame Nietzsche and his philosophy. The left, organised religion, every tyrant out there wants man to see himself as inherently faulted, so he will willingly let himself be ruled for the greater good.
@Kuner1 Well, that is sure interesting. But, how can man overcome his own in-born biases that are so ingrained in our psyche and genetics? It just doesn't seem possible to me. As for willingly let myself be ruled, I can't say I subscribe to that philosophy.
@Roy5595 I think its just healthy to recognize that we do have limitations as a species. Nothing is wrong with striving to overcome them but I do not think they will ever be totally overcome. Recognize weaknesses, celebrate strengths, love one another.
Correlation does not equal causation. Perhaps you've heard this before in the social sciences. Previous data collected indicates that the non-religious have a higher rate of suicide than the religious. Should we then conclude they are depressed because they are atheists? No. Sorry, its not so cut and dry. Violence hasn't only been done in the name of religious causes. Have we forgotten the communist movements? Atheism is not the be all end all solution for human peace and prosperity.
@Roy5595 "Atheism is not the be all end all solution for human peace and prosperity." I agree that it's not... but it sure helps, as evidenced in the facts shown in this video.
@Straumnes The data may be suggestive, but correlation does not equal causation. Like I said, the non-religious also have higher rates of suicides. What should we conclude from that? Its not that simple. Religion can make a person extremely peaceful too. However, I will say being part of a big organized religious system doesn't exactly promote peace and love. Quite contrary to what they should be teaching, at least for us Christians.
Its funny because Cuba has a 100% atheist governemnt and is entirely run by Atheists. Cuba is a very peaceful place by the way its just that America wont let them do anything.
India is pretty peaceful because Hindu is actually a VERY peaceful and respectful religion that teaches people not to hate anyone for any reason unlike a lot of others
Ok, I noticed that people in the comment area are talking about how Hitler and Stalin killed people because they were atheist. BS. Think for a moment. Religious bad people kill people BECAUSE their religion TOLD them to. Atheists CAN NEVER have that equivalent. They can't say "my nonbelief in your god TOLD me to kill you". It doesn't work that way. You cant be motivated by something you don't believe in. Anyways, Hitler was Catholic, and that point proves there are good/bad people, not religion.
If people want to attribute atheism to the Holocaust, they should also realise that Adolf was also a vegetarian. Yep, a vegetarian. He killed 6 million Jews on the basis that he was vegetarian.
How can Atheists make a claim that an Atheistic state would be peaceful. You do not need to make such claim. Atheistic states have existed and some exist today. Every single Atheist state has repressed religion and killed people like crazy for their religious beliefs. The Soviet Union, Cambodia, Mexico(Cristero's war), China, Revolutionary France, Albania, Mongolia, North Korea. They are all repressive countries. Seriously no difference between religious fanatics and Atheist.
@poligon333 ... We're talking about Atheistic nations that run via democracy (Sweden, Switzerland, Japan, Denmark, Finland, etc.), not Communist nations that run via dictatorship (Communist Russia/China/North Korea). That are run under Communist regimes, not "Atheistic" regimes (although there's not such thing as an "Atheistic" regime).
What about atheist nations in History? Russia under Stalin was atheist, they killed 23,000,000. Mao Zedong was atheist, he killed 80,000,000. Pol Pot was atheist, he killed like 30,000,000. In fact the most genocidal nations in the past century were mostly godless.
@MandiLuvsVideos they were dictators for sure, but it shows you don't need God or religion to commit genocide. If the whole world were atheist, there would still be evil people, not a damn thing would change. This video gives all the credit for peace to atheism, but i wonder if there were other aspects of these nations that led to so much peace.
@Scalpking47 Ugh, the ignorant always speak. Soviet Russia was Catholic. Pal Pot declared himself a supreme being, making himself a higher power. Not atheistic. None of the regimes were atheistic and did anything in the name of atheism. Hitler, actually, was a Catholic who killed 6 million Jews, not counting the others he slaughtered.
@elnoraemily the ignorant don't read history. Stalin believed that religion was an opiate that needed to be removed to achieve a communist society. He purged his nation of religion killing 100,000 in 2 years. Pol Pot had no religious belief and said religion only leads to conflict and must be eliminated. They both killed in the name of atheism at one time or another but they were phsyco and killed for any reason. People will always find a reason to kill.
@Scalpking47 Stalin wanted the people worship HIM, he was extremely paranoid and mentally ill so he detained and killed a large number of his people, Pol Pot was a psycopath who again like stalin wanted the people to worship him. So he killed all the educated people that would stand up against him. Its true that People will always find a Reason . but you cant compare dictators, sorry Imbeciles to All atheists. As a species we will never achieve absolute peace but religion does not help.
@Scalpking47 lol its funny. Stalin, Mao, and Paulpot didn't kill people because they were atheist. There has been no motive of promoting atheism in the murders from all those dictators. Thats like saying that all Catholics are pedofiles because of those catholic priests who raped little children. Oh and by the way if you accumulate all the people killed in the name of religion, it has a way higher number than all of deaths summed up in your comment.
@horang106 i never said they killed ppl because they were atheist. They have used atheism as a motive to murder though. Stalin had special atheist schools and purged the nation of religion in the 1930s killing 100,000 priests, monks, and anyone believing in God. Pol Pot killed for many reasons, one believing religion would only lead to conflict, therefore eliminate religion. My only point is it doesn't take religion for people to be this evil.
I also noticed something else quite interesting in this "comparison"... the blatant *ABSENCE* of those Nations ranking: "38-31", "29-28", "26-17", "15-12", "10", "8", "5-3" and of course "1"!
Where are *THESE* nations which are conspicuously absent? And *WHY* are they conspicuously absent? -- Couldn't possibly have anything to do with them being (quote/unquote) "Religious" (aka "Non-Atheist") nations... could it? Otherwise,wouldn't we LOGICALLY see a CONSISTENT "UNBROKEN" PATTERN? (Just Askin')
@GeneralBacklash As is clearly stated within its own content, this video is intended to disprove the (obviously) incorrect notion that secularism or even atheism has a positive correlation with violence or poor societal health. It is not intended to prove that religion corresponds with the aforementioned issues, although that argument could easily be made (and won).
The title given to this video is: "'Atheist' Nations Are More Peaceful"
So with that said, I'd still like to have answered: "WHY" do so-called "Atheist Nations" not stack the deck in every one (or even most) of the *TOP SPOTS*?
Also, has it somehow been lost on everyone else the fact that those nations listed at the very "bottom" (save for the exceptions of Israel & India) are comprised of severely impoverished & often exploited "Third World" countries?
those top atheist countries are not at war or being occupied by another country otherwise you will see many violence in their country. nearly all the muslim countries are being bombed,occupied by another other countries plus they are run by corrupt despot government supported by the west. those top atheist countries are lucky they don't have a common enemy who is trying to undermine them or wanting to invade their country like most muslim countries have.
@ajmolaliful The countries with atheistic leanings are not "lucky" they aren't embroiled in a conflict like the one ongoing in the Middle East. Have you forgotten so easily that the conflict is a war of RELIGION?
"Is it just me?... or was "NORTH KOREA" (100% atheist) somehow... umm... "left off" of this list?"
North Koreans already believe in a god, worship and are willing to do great evil in the name of this being that they've constructed a religion around. His name is Kim Jong-un.
@TurboDally: "Atheists already believe in a god, worship and are willing to do great evil in the name of this being that they've constructed a religion around. His name is Charles Darwin."
@theElectr0ne (re: "I have no idea where you picked that bullshit up but how you came to your idea riddles me") - I'm only quoting back to "TurboDally" his (or her?) own words, with just a slight "twist," based on what I've observed of most hardline self-described "atheists."
The ONLY reason theres problems in the middle east is when an Athiest country such as America, who totally forgot about God, decides to kill millions of peaceful muslims for money and for the terrorist state of israel.If you want peace take the entity out of the middle east, and stop killing the arabs.My american government is being bought out to legalize these killings.. just remember next time you see someone you love, how will you react when someone kills them? GOD bless the FREEDOM For ALL
Endisrealterror 1 hour ago
tnx guys, now i have to scroll down to see what that shawn has wrote, my bet it was something stupid as fuck
bluzercic 17 hours ago
@bluzercic It's a funny country you live in when calling an argument "stupid as fuck" is the way a grow man refutes. lmao
shawn3975 10 hours ago
Vietnam is the most violent country I have ever been to (and I've been to most countries on all spectrums of this list including those in the middle east). Additionally the only place I have ever seen someone brutally murdered in front of me was the Czech Republic. For starters I would question the accuracy of this list. Secondly I'd say Sweden being at the top has more to do with their socio economic status than religion.
lion575 23 hours ago
@lion575
so you put your experiences in front of overall numbers and percentages as a fact ? what a egocentrical opinion
bluzercic 17 hours ago
@bluzercic Yes, unlike you I don't go off blind faith in what someone else reports (most likely someone who has never been to the countries in discussion). I use real first hand data.
lion575 17 hours ago
@lion575:
XD Man, are you really that stupid? The GPI uses official data from the respective crime and health departments of the countries as well as census data. Are you suggesting that we ignore those facts that draw the whole picture and make do with your single, personal experiences? All Indians walk in single file, right..?
MsHyde1 14 hours ago
@MsHyde1 Are you really that stupid? Do you think countries that are extremist dictatorships like vietnam hand over real data? Do you think their government even tracks real data?
lion575 6 hours ago
@lion575:
When have you been to Vietnam? In the 70ies? XD And my best friend so a person getting shot when she lived in the US for one year. That was a couple of years ago. So yeah, your personal experiences are so relevant. Not.
And if it is the socio economic status then when is the US so low on that list despite similar wealth as in the EU? Is the US a 3rd world country or something? Besides, that would only prove the correlation between religion and bad socio economical status.
MsHyde1 14 hours ago
@MsHyde1 No not in the 70's, I am the VP of se asia for an engineering firm, all my trips to vietnam have been in the past 10 years.
Outside of the tourist districts, if your out after the nation wide 11pm curfew, you will get shot.
lion575 6 hours ago
@lion575:
"Outside of the tourist districts, if your out after the nation wide 11pm curfew, you will get shot."
Haha, same in the US and they additionally start one war after the other and have a whole load of other less than peaceful aspects to deal with.
"extremist dictatorships"
XD And that from someone from the Phillipines!
MsHyde1 5 hours ago
@MsHyde1 Obviously its relevant compared to people with no world experience, knowledge of world governments, or clue as to what goes on in the world around them. I reside in the Philippines,I routinely pay off government officials. The same has applied when I've been in numerous former soviet countries. If your stupid enough to think it has anything to do with religion, perhaps I should just allow you to be content reading your government reported statistics and blindly believing its the truth.
lion575 6 hours ago
@lion575:
Sweetie, you can argue about Vietnam all you like but the data from Europe and the US is undeniable.
Besides, fellow student when there for half a year three years ago to do conservation projects. They were moving around non-tourist areas and it was all perfectly peaceful, nothing happend at all. So there goes your value of "personal experience". You sound like a conspiracy theory nutcase.
MsHyde1 5 hours ago
@lion575:
As for former soviet countries. The worst that has happened to my parent while visiting many of those countrie for years was a stolen purse. So if you are constantly experiencing criminal activity in those countries I wonder if you are involved in such activity yourself. ^_^ You might also like to go to certain areas in oh so religious US cities, you will not survive for long..
MsHyde1 5 hours ago
@lion575:
And yes, religion breeds ingnorance, violence and bad living conditions and viseversa. The correlations are undeniable, just like the correlation between lack of religiousness and higher IQ. Shitty life causes religion like an infestation, religion causes shitty life. It is a vicious circle. ^_^ And before you start babbling about violent supression of the church, we are talking about modern, organic, voluntary atheism here.
MsHyde1 5 hours ago
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NOW LETS TALK ABOUT PEACEFUL PEOPLE, THE USA AND ENGLAND WOULD BE RANKED AS AMONG THE LEAST PEACEFUL SINCE THEY ATTACK AND INVADE OTHER COUNTRIES AND THEY HAVE A COALITION FROM NORWAY SWEDEN AND OTHER SO SWEDEN AND NORWAY WOULD RANK AMONG THE LEAST PEACEFUL PEOPLE TOO. IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN ARE BEEN ATTACKED (NOT THE AGGRESSORS) SO THEY ARE CONSIDERED PEACEFUL JUST DEFENDING THEMSELVES..SO YOUR DATA IS NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT AND ANYONE CAN MAKE ANY DATA THEY WANT.
glower125 1 day ago
@glower125:
Iraq and Afghanistan are NOT considered peaceful in that GPI raking, you moron, quite the opposite. The GPI ranking takes many factors into account, not only war. You might want to look that up before you showcase your ignorance and come accross as a complete idiot with your capslock obsession.
phangirlable 1 day ago
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LOL, NOT TO MENTION THE LEVEL OF SUICIDE IN THESE SO CALLED PEACEFUL NATIONS.
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Trampadoo 1 day ago
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@glower125:
Hm, lets see.. way more war, homicide/murder, rape, drug abuse, teen pregnancy, infant mortality, abortion, STD infection and bullying and better health care in religious countries (the US in this case) vs. more suicides in some of these EU countries... Hmmmmmmmm.. So difficult to decide which ones are worse. XD
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What exactly are these statistics based on? Norway and Sweden have some of the highest rape rates in the western world. I would hardly call that peaceful.
shawn3975 1 day ago 8
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I've asked me the same question some time ago, and i found out that the overwhelming percentage of rapist are immigrants with an islamic background. In Oslo for example we can see this development clearly. Just look for Oslo and rape and you will see.
Greetings from slowly islamising Germany :-(
Baltazar234e 1 day ago
@Baltazar234e So what? Who do you think is causing most of the violent crime in the US? Maybe when your continent is only 60% white like ours is you won't stick your noses up at us anymore!
shawn3975 1 day ago
@shawn3975:
And those blacks are not Christian? ^_^ Besides, the US has the same immirant % as Europe, while Europe has a 3-times higher overall population desity. So what is your excuse for being more violent, abusive, for more teen pregnancies, abotions and drug abuse and a shitty social system that spits on the less fortunate ones?
MsHyde1 1 day ago
@MsHyde1 Last time I checked Europes non-white population was only at 10%. The US no-white population is about 30% including 11 million illlegal immigrats, thats not even including alot of hispanics who self identify as white.
Like I said before our problems with violence, teen pregnancy, and drug abuse are mostly because of our higher non-white population. Just Google our prison statistics and our teen pregnancy rates regarding race. The facts are there, you just have to look at them.
shawn3975 11 hours ago
@shawn3975:
Last time I checked most of the US's non-white populartion was American, several generations, and christian, deeply so even. Last time I checked Europe had pretty much identical immgrant numbers and illegal immegrant rates. Last time I checked Europe had and overall 3-times higher population desity than the US (some countries much higher) which usually leads to more aggression and criminal activity.
MsHyde1 5 hours ago
@shawn3975:
Oh, and the US have the highest teen pregnancy and abortion rates in the most religious states in the bible belt. Not because of blacks but because christian religious fundies teach abstinence only and lie to kids about condoms and tell them sexuality is evil.
As for blacks.. why do you think they are the ones with the biggest problems regarding STD, contraception etc.? Same reason they have those problems in Africa: christian fundies!
MsHyde1 5 hours ago
@shawn3975:
Uganda had 15 years of decreasinh HIV infection rates. Then the US and various US christian fundie "charities" cut back condom supplies and started their insane abstinence only programs that hat already miserably failed in their own country. HIV infection rates doubled within one year. So please don't tell me religion is not the very motivator for those insanities.
Btw., you might want to google prison rates of atheists.. ^_^
MsHyde1 5 hours ago
@Baltazar234e:
Noch mal, die beiden Länder haben eine ganz andere Definition von "Vergewaltigung". Glückwunsch, wahrscheinlich warst du einer der Deppen, der diesen dämlichen Kommentar hoch-gevotet hat.
MsHyde1 1 day ago
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@shawn3975:
Man, are you stupid. Did you even bother to look up what Norway and Sweden define as rape?! They have a definition different from all other countries and thus cannot be directely compared to the rape rates of other countries that define rape the same!
Moron! Just like everyone who gives this ingorant numbskull a thumbs up!
MsHyde1 1 day ago
@TruthOasis No i'm Swedish and yet now it's nearly 90%:)
123aaa12339 1 day ago
I'm from Denmark, which is ranked as 80% atheist and number 2 in terms of peace.
Denmark is a small country with absolutely no political or military might - it's only power lies in cultural/scientific influence.
1000 years ago, Denmark was one of the mightiest countries of the world (at the time.) We're talking about British people praying to God to save them - not from the devil - but from Danes.
Things have gone downhill ever since we stopped raiding, raping and plundering.
Sad but true.
CHRLPTRSN 2 days ago
@CHRLPTRSN sadly you don't get power and money without raiding and plundering
axisofinfinity 1 day ago
@axisofinfinity It's worse. If you don't raid and plunder, you will LOSE the power you already have. Or at least, that's what happened here.
CHRLPTRSN 1 day ago
COLOMBIA AND CUBA ARE CHRISTIAN NATIONS?!?! Yeah, something got skewed in the data. Cuba and Colombia are one of the world's #1 offenders for killing Christians or throwing them in jail.
Legion719 2 days ago
@Legion719 No, they're not.. Cuba isn't, atleast. Don't know about Columbia, but I doubt it.
omgwtfbbqxD 1 day ago
@Legion719 I think the data is based on the population at large, not the personal beliefs of their ruling elites or the official government ideology. In both countries, the vast majority of the population is strongly Roman Catholic.
DandAinTac 1 day ago
If in history a family is part of a church, like myself, doesn't mean im christian, im an atheist, this is stupid
Thomaspegful 2 days ago
Im moving to Sweden, cya all you stupid religious idiots!
99blackhorse99 3 days ago
@99blackhorse99 dont leave me with these fucktards >_<
DragonsREpic 2 days ago
Disbelief in a god is atheism, whatever your fucked up YouTube username is...
glitchuser4 4 days ago
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1. Soviet Union - Joseph Stalin: killed: 50 million people.
2. Nazi Germany - Hitler - killed: 45 million people.
3. Cambodia - Pol Pot - killed: 7 million people.
4. China - Mao Tse-tung - killed: 40 million people
All these mass murderous confirmed atheists. Peace has nothing to do with religion, it's only the moral character of the people that can bring people together. You can teach atheists to be dumb, as well as someone who's Muslim. It's only human development that can preach peace.
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DanielSeriously 4 days ago
peace is non theistic?
this statement is text book example of tribalism, and externalizing evil into the other group.
Its socially and emotionally childish, and its a consequence of a need to feel special.
Btw correlation does not mean causation, and this video is dishonest in what it is trying to do.
I mean who are you any different then people who demonize atheists.
All you people care about is your own pack.
niinja2 5 days ago
This 'atheist' nations are more peaceful concept is well demonstrated by the video to my right, entitled, "Atheists are wrong - lets kill them!!!."
chr1sh111 5 days ago
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3:00 What a shame, let me fix that for you.
Church of Sweden membership 6,664,064, 71.3% of the population.
Church of Denmark membership 4,469,109, 80.4% of the population.
Church of Norway membership 3,848,841, 80.2% of the population.
And do not forget the thousands of Muslims that also live in these countries.
If you support censorship flag this comment for spam.
TruthOasis 5 days ago 13
@TruthOasis Supporting the church does not make you a theist. Atheists can get married, but if you want to do it in a church, you have to pay. Same thing with funerals.
Tradition is NOT religion.
ZaQen 4 days ago
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steviej321 4 days ago
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@TruthOasis Has it ever occurred to you that these people go to "church" to fit in and socialize just like most people in America? Polls represent this as most Scandinavians are atheists.
steviej321 4 days ago
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@TruthOasis When born in Sweden, you automaticly join the Church of Sweden. I do not know if it is like this in Denmark and Norway but it probably is. My point is that the membership doesn't necessarily mean faith.
Xazorath 4 days ago
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@TruthOasis Are you fucking daft? Most Scandinavians becomes Church members upon birth. It doesn't mean they're religious. Just accept the fact that Atheism = more peaceful country and move on
Straumnes 4 days ago
@Straumnes coming from YOU, an insult to someone's intellect is completely meaningless.
kalbahamut 4 days ago
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@TruthOasis
1) Belonging to the Church of a country does not mean that you follow the religion of that church. The government of Finland automatically registers you into the Church of Finland at birth.
2) "...thousands of Muslims" are insignificant when it comes to populations in the millions. JS.
100percentrekkie 4 days ago
@TruthOasis In the UK 70% of people tick 'christian' on surveys and in the census, but only 38% believe in a god. Only 23% of Swedes believe in a god. Only 31% of Danes believe in a god. Only 32% of Norwegians believe in a god. These are stats from the Eurobarometer poll 2005. Now I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure you have to believe in God to be a christian.
Tomasito261 3 days ago
@TruthOasis Funny thing about the North is that even though people are still members of the church, we do not believe in God. (When you are born you are automaticly given a membership in the corresponding church.) Some people are just too lazy to fill in the papers to leave it or just doesn't care. The statistics in the video are numbers based on polls etc. where people have been asked (in schools, on the street, etc.) if they believe in any kind of god. More than often the answer has been: No.
Rrutgersson 3 days ago
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@TruthOasis membership in the church is not the same as being christian. A lot of Norwegians get baptized because it's a tradition. Most norwegians are agnostic or atheist, even though they are members of the church.
olesto 2 days ago
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@TruthOasis hell, I'm a member of the Norwegian church and I'm an atheist. Most people are baptized because it's tradition. We get married in church, we have our funerals in church. In fact most Norwegian atheists are members of the church, but we only go there on special occasion and we don't bother to "cancel our membership" because it's a bit of a hassle, and we simply don't care..
tossabaddle 2 days ago
@tossabaddle and a little quote of something my brother once said: "You know.. the few times we go to church it's cozy and stuff right..? But when I hare what is being said and sung, I just can't help but thinking: How stupid can you GET? It seems like a textbook case of brainwashing!"
tossabaddle 2 days ago
@tossabaddle Apologies for typos and bad grammar. I'm Norwegian after all..
tossabaddle 2 days ago
@TruthOasis most of those people atleast in sweden are members of the church despite being atheists. im a member of the swedish church and im an atheist.
Possimpablee 2 days ago
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@TruthOasis Did you know that less than 1% of Swedes attend the Church? Also just because you're a member of the church doesn't mean you're actually religious. Many Swedes are baptized at birth, but almost never go to church and aren't religious at all.
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@TruthOasis Me im part of the church but completely atheist. Its just my families belief. These statistics are the high end of the predictions. Sweden is 45-85% atheist, so your facts are true, but doesn't spell out their faith. I see that YOU are censoring information yourself. THUMBS UP SO PEOPLE CAN REALIZE THIS!
Thomaspegful 2 days ago
@Thomaspegful Care to explain how that is censorship?
TruthOasis 2 days ago
@Thomaspegful You sir are a liar!
Censorship is the SUPPRESSION of speech or other public communication! I have not done that here or anywere else! I am strongly opposed to censorship of any kind!
TruthOasis 2 days ago
@Thomaspegful You know I am actually kind of pissed that you accused me of that. But I am smart enough to know that not everyone with your point of view is a liar, just you the individual.
TruthOasis 2 days ago
@TruthOasis You have the ability to turn around a good point to a false accusation in 3 comments, I respect that, but in the end run, what are you accusing me of doing? I don't lie, I researched my information, and yes you used the skill of omission , like myself, you told the members of the church in some countries, and I put the fact of the people of Sweden are 45-85,(actually46-85%) atheist. Why don't you post a comment on the % of atheists in each country, and church members??
Thomaspegful 1 day ago
@Thomaspegful I wasnt talking about that. You lied when you said was exercising censorship, and you know it's true.
TruthOasis 1 day ago
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@TruthOasis: You obviously have no clue about Europe whatsoever. XD Many EU countries have a state church and if your parents are member of that church, which they are most likely going back several generations, your are automatically a member the moment you are born. Most western and northern EU countries are already more than 50% up to over 80% non-theists, church attendence is down to under 10%, but still the majority is member of a church on paper because who cares?
MsHyde1 1 day ago
@Talendiem Although your question was directed to eleutheromaniac, I would like to respond. You said "Even devote athiest Richard Dawkins himself is not a 7". Well, that is great for him. I do not know if your statement was intended to deter me from saying 7, but Dawkins view has no casual link with mine. I am a 7 (i.e. absolutely certain of no god) because I view the notion of God as self-contadictory. If my notion is true, then god does not exist is truth by analicity.
GreatArye 5 days ago
What's the song?
Myusernamerulez 5 days ago
so true.
TeamFuMe 5 days ago
How the hell does Denmark get 2 but Sweden 6? Denmark are actually quite actively involved in the fighting in Afghanistan. Sweden is unfortunately there too but on a much less aggressive scale.
terronova 5 days ago
And some of these statistics are just outright fabrications.
Japan for example is definitely not 76% atheist. Many practice Shintoism, Taoism, Buddhism and quite a few are even Christian.
eleutheromaniac 6 days ago 9
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You forget that Buddhism does not technically require a belief in the resurrection cycle. Most Japanese or Chinese Buddhists believe in the philsophy, but not necessarily in the supernatural aspects. It's like western atheists who celebrate christmas. You accept it as your cultural heritage, but that alone doesn't make you religious.
Kuner1 6 days ago
@Kuner1 totally agree & I live in japan.
lady2342002 5 days ago
@eleutheromaniac Taoism is a philosophy. Buddhism, you could be an Atheist and follow it. I believe that this is probably correct. Plus Shintoism isn't here as much anymore. There's mostly philosophies in Asia.
lavabone 4 days ago
@eleutheromaniac
You are aware of the fact that most Buddhists are atheistic, right? You are also aware that many many Taoists think of the Tao as more of the Force from Star Wars than an omnipresent God, right? And I'm sure you took the 10 seconds necessary to Google "religion in Japan" to find a number other than 76%, right? I did. I found 64% from 2001 and 65% from 2004.
+/- 11% over 11 years and with a different survey is not mind-boggling.
100percentrekkie 4 days ago
@100percentrekkie have you read the Tao te ching? supplant the words "the Way" and "the Sage" with God (you could also do the reverse with the Bible and achieve the same effect). They are, in essense, conceptualizing the same idea. Similiarly, Buddha described Nirvana as "consciousness without end", is this not also an apt description for the Biblical "God"?
"You'll find that many of the Truths we cling to rely greatly on our own point of view." :P
eleutheromaniac 4 days ago
@eleutheromaniac How difficult is it to do a simple wikipedia search? I just did it, it took me a few seconds, and now I know that the majority of Japanese are non-religious, and that the video poster is right. Go on, have a look, wikipedia - 'Religion in Japan'
Tomasito261 3 days ago
@eleutheromaniac
Notice that the video said "Non-theism." It didn't necessarily say all religion.
Myusernamerulez 3 days ago in playlist Liked videos
@eleutheromaniac actually most are atheist
gibsdsid 2 days ago
@eleutheromaniac You should find out what Atheist means first befor you try to shut some one down. The 3 "religions" you mentioned all fall under the catergory of atheism. They do not believe in any deity.
newtubeusername 2 days ago
@eleutheromaniac Did you know all Japanese people born need to be "baptized" in the Buddhist/Shinto way (I don't know what that's called though). However many people choose to not practice religion. I have this Japanese friend who told me that in Japan they have much more important things to do rather than praying to a statue.
SuperSkarmDG 2 days ago
A couple things wrong with this video: 1) it confuses cause and effect; in truth it is the fact that nations are peaceful which allows for non-religious beliefs, not vice-versa. as the saying goes 'there are no atheists in foxholes'.
2) Having no official religious denomination does not necessarily make one 'atheist'. I myself do not associate with any particular belief, but I am not atheist; yet under these statistics I would be counted as one.
eleutheromaniac 6 days ago 3
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Same for me, I am not religious but I'm spiritual and this video would regard me as atheist.
seekerofenlightment 6 days ago
@eleutheromaniac Actually, there are more atheists in foxholes - 21% of US military personnel are atheist or irreligious, which is up from 16.1% in the general population.
LiberalIntervention 5 days ago
@LiberalIntervention again, as with this video, i believe that statistic to be misleading. that statistic is based on the form soldiers are asked to fill out when joining the military, correct?
so there are several variables to consider: are they--like me--simply not associated with any established doctrine, yet still hold a theistic belief? were they atheists when joining the military, but found God during war? or did they simply not wish to disclose their beliefs for whatever reason?
eleutheromaniac 5 days ago
@eleutheromaniac I don't actually know the specifics of when in the soldiers term of service the study was conducted, only the statistic (which is from a paper for the Population Research Bureau - the link is on my pc, but maybe you can find it for me?). What I can do is point to a study of British soldiers (the UK being a less religious country) which found that 39% of British soldiers described themselves "atheists" (not non-religious) and a further 24% said that believed in a God but
LiberalIntervention 4 days ago
@LiberalIntervention Continued disagreed with the statement "God takes a personal interest and answers prayers." (i.e they were Elightenment-style deists) I think atheism and military service is reflective of the status of atheism within the parent nation - the higher the percentage of atheists in the parent nation, the higher it will be in that nations military. Religion should be more than a crutch to get through stress - Primo Levi rejected God on the Auschwitz selection ramp.
LiberalIntervention 4 days ago
@eleutheromaniac
I think that the term "atheist" is used because it is for familiar and controversial as opposed to just saying something like none or secular.
Myusernamerulez 5 days ago
@eleutheromaniac Actually it does make you one. If you have no belief you are by definition a-theist. Everyone if atheist by default. If you pick up a religion you becom theist.
Demostravius 5 days ago
@Demostravius it is not that i have 'no belief', it is that none of my beliefs would fall under one of the established religious doctrines. One does not need a Church or a synagogue or a mosque to find God.
In fact, Jesus himself was vehemently anti-Church. Nietzsche does a brilliant exposition of this fact in his book "The Anti-Christian", showing how people who call themselves 'Christian' today are actually following the teachings of Paul, often in *contradiction* to the teaching of Jesus
eleutheromaniac 5 days ago
@eleutheromaniac So either deistic/pantheist or non-cultist theistic? Don't they normally have an 'other' section on these surveys?
Demostravius 4 days ago
@eleutheromaniac While the term "Atheist" is used in the GPI, I believe that this was done in error. Take for example the statement made: "Peace is non-theistic". Theses stats usually lump agnostics in with atheists, as well as those that consider themselves spiritual, but non-religious.
Talendiem 5 days ago
@eleutheromaniac Also, I have a question for you. How likely do you think it is that there is no god or gods? Using a scale from 1-7, with 1 being absolute certainty, beyond any doubt that there is a god or gods, and 7 being absolute certainty that is NO god or gods. Where would you place yourself? Even devote atheist Richard Dawkins himself is not a 7.
Talendiem 5 days ago
@Talendiem i would put myself as a 1: absolutely certain. the question isn't if God is real, the question is: is anything else real? and the answer is 'no'; all is only a reflection--an image--of God Himself.
for me the "God" question is simply this: did consciousness create the universe--as a dreamer creates a dream, or did the universe result in the localized phenomenon called 'consciousness'?
eleutheromaniac 5 days ago
@eleutheromaniac True, but it also means that nations with less religious people are less likely to fall back into wars or "un-peacefulness".
I'm from sweden and my family has been atheists for 5 generations.
And as you said, peace creates a place for atheism and by that we can assume that theism comes from war and poverty.
ZaQen 4 days ago
@eleutheromaniac if you do not worship any religion, you are Atheist, you can still beleive there's a "god" out there, but thats the point of Atheism
if you are not part of a religion you are atheist, since you cant separate your self from the word, unless you actually some hoe worship something, then it makes it a religion....
5T34LTHcamoT4NK 4 days ago
This Video is WRONG i am from Norway and christians are still in majority althoug i am not myself. How come norway got an extremly peacefull score when we have been the agressor on all the major war theaters the last 10 years? and how did usa get halfway peacefull when they have been in almost ALL major conflicts the last 60 years ?
Jonzen77 6 days ago
@Jonzen77
maybe because without the USA the bad guys would have won those conflicts?...
Kuner1 6 days ago
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Currently, America is in 82nd place (behind such nations as Gabon and Egypt). How some Americans think their country is the best in the world is beyond me. It's probably the worst developed country in the world.
Straumnes 1 week ago 9
@Straumnes I've been to Egypt. I've been to America. Never been to Gabon. You are incredibly fucking stupid if you believe what you just typed.
kalbahamut 5 days ago
@kalbahamut The irrelevance of your travels aside, my comment is not a matter of belief; it's a matter of fact. Out of 153 countries, America is ranked on the GPI at number 82. That's not even in the top half. Yet, Americans are probably the most patriotic out of any nation. There's no reason that Americans should think their country is better than other countries, and this is because it simply isn't. High intentional homicide rate, low freedom of press ranking, low life expectancy, etc. etc.
Straumnes 4 days ago
@Straumnes, listen dumbass, the "GPI", which was pulled out of somebody's ass anyway, doesn't relate to how developed a country is. My statement stands. You are incredibly fucking stupid if you think the USA is the least developed country in the world. And even though this has nothing to do with being "developed", you realize that 82 is not the last number in a series of 153, right? (and that there are more than 153 countries in the world) Low freedom of press? wtf. retard.
kalbahamut 4 days ago
@kalbahamut Apparently you can't read. I said that America is the worst developed country in the world, not the least developed country in the world. Huge difference. And as I said before, this isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. America is a country of ignorant morons who couldn't point out Mexico on a map. Yeah, 15 trillion in debt. Something to be really patriotic about! And I can't insult your intellect, because you have none. America is a joke to the world. Everyone knows this
Straumnes 4 days ago
@Straumnes I could whup your ass so bad in a geography bee, but whatever. You know what, shithead? EVERY country in the world asserts that they are the best. It's actually rather banal. However, when Sweden or Ireland or France or Saudi Arabia or the UK makes this assertion, nobody gets mad because its so hard to take such assertions seriously. We all just laugh and forget about it. When an American makes the same assertion, people take offense, because they know in their hearts it is true.
kalbahamut 4 days ago
@Straumnes anyway, I'm very sorry that you live in some frozen wasteland where people left and right are killing themselves due to seasonal effective disorder, and that the greatest cultural achievement of your civilization was the systematic raping and pillaging of Europe for a few centuries. That must really suck. But try to get over it. You'll be a happier more well-adjusted person.
kalbahamut 4 days ago
@kalbahamut It's spelled affective, and I'm not sure where you think I live but it doesn't get cold here. And speaking of happiness, according to a Gallup poll in 2011, the countries with the happiest respondents are in order Denmark, Canada, Sweden, Australia and Finland. America isn't even in the top 20 lol. And three of those countries DO get very cold in the wintertime. And please, if you want to have a discussion, stick to the facts. According to IQ and the Wealth of Nations
Straumnes 4 days ago
@Straumnes you accused me of not being able to read or get my facts straight when IQ and the Wealth of Nations, the soure you quoted, places America well ABOVE more European countries than it places it behind. Further, if you discount recent immigrants, also according to the same source, the USA scores better than EVERY European country, bar none. Your statement have progressed from the sort of outrageous stupidity one expects on YouTube to way too stupid to be for real. You must be trolling.
kalbahamut 4 days ago
@kalbahamut Clearly I've won this argument. I've presented my objective evidence, and you have chosen to reject it for no logical or rational reason. That ultimately speaks for itself and for most Americans. And by you sayng that I'm a "festering rectal wart on Adolph Hitler's ass" (note: it's spelled Adolf), it's clear that I'm not having a discussion with a person of reasonable intelligence. End of discussion.
Straumnes 4 days ago
@Straumnes you haven't won jackshit. Like all Europeans, you are sitting frustrated and bitter in some decaying shadow of imperial power well past its prime, posting disparaging and wildly inaccurate generalizations about other, far superior nations, on the global network those superior nations invented using the language that is still relevant solely because of those nations' existence. You are a bigot, this is true, but also suffering a crushing inferiority complex as your kind do.
kalbahamut 4 days ago
@Straumnes hem and haw and point to irrelevant fabricated numbers such as this global pussy index all you like, it doesn't change the fact that you are irrelevant. Nobody cares about you. You have been eclipsed and forgotten. And this is why you are bitter and angry and we all know it. I wouldn't expect the USA to win a contest of who has the weakest military anyway, since they enjoy a militaristic hegemony the likes of which the world has never known. But you use it as a point to try
kalbahamut 4 days ago
@Straumnes and make yourself feel better. That's fine. Try. It doesn't change the facts of reality. I will go on being a content and well-adjusted individual, you will go on angrily masturbating into your Nazi flag wishing for days gone by and obsessing over typos posted on YouTube as this is the only area of your life where you can feel in control or superior. Pathetic. Truly, truly pathetic. Fuck you, you uninformed, bigoted, brainless, whining little troll. End of discussion.
kalbahamut 4 days ago
@kalbahamut
Wtf? Did you honestly expect to finish an argument by saying that no one cares about the other person?
[a] that's irrelevant to whether or not he was right.
[b] *I* care because he IS right!
[c] ^ this, and I'm from America. You haven't presented a single fact. He has. From every debate standard I've ever seen, this was a veritable slaughter.
100percentrekkie 4 days ago
@100percentrekkie well.. he HADN'T presented a single fact... but your post, assuming you're not lying, DOES lend credence to his argument that all Americans are ignorant idiots. Fuck off, jackass. You're not so special and sophisticated that you've earned an exclusion from the bigoted remarks of others that include you. I'm not debating trolls, I'm speaking the truth.
kalbahamut 4 days ago
@100percentrekkie hey if you can take a break from sucking your blow up Kirk doll's dick, why don't you look for "IQ and the Wealth of Nations." You will see that the facts *I* presented are actually factual, while what this other idiot said was totally made-up fabrication. He did not present one single fact. Who's the bigger jackass? The bigot who makes up false bullshit? Or the idiot who reads it in YouTube and believes it without checking? I'm not debating. I'm stating fact.
kalbahamut 3 days ago
@kalbahamut "you will go on angrily masturbating into your Nazi flag wishing for days gone by" I don't know how old you, so I don't know whether or not you're a lost cause, but I hope for your sake that you ultimately learn how to have discussions with people with tact and class. And I'm not European -- I'm Canadian. Have a good day.
Straumnes 3 days ago
@kalbahamut American citizens in 2006 placed at number 34 in their rank of IQ behind almost every European country. And you are a shining example of an ignorant, arrogant America. You think you're better than everyone else even when the facts show that you aren't. Get over it and move on
Straumnes 4 days ago
@Straumnes I don't think I'm better than everyone. However I KNOW I am better than you. You are ignorant, bigoted garbage. The statements you've made are sub-Creationist. Beyond 911 Truther stupid. You have no grasp at all of facts whatsoever. You are totally and completely beneath me. You are festering rectal wart on Adolph Hitler's ass, a direct descendant of his intellectual legacy. You are a shining example of the fact that racism and unfounded elitism in Europe never actually went away.
kalbahamut 4 days ago
@Straumnes Also, I'm much smarter than you. The average American is smarter than the average European. I'd suggest you look it up, but considering you are so unfathomably retarded that you believe some of the things you posted before, I have no confidence that you'd be able to. You can just accept my word for it. Averages aside, I'm much more intelligent than you are.
kalbahamut 4 days ago
There is a problem in human society that is deeper than religion. Look around the world, poverty, death, disease, etc. Does religion contribute sometimes? Maybe. But you're lying to yourself if you think the absolute removal of religion will solve all the worlds ills. This attitude of "LETS BLAME RELIGION" is not helping anything.
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Naturally religion and superstition are only symptoms of a greater underlying defect. In fact, the tendency towards belief in the supernatural as well as towards collectivism are genetic.
Basically religious people and collectivists are a genetically inferior strain of humans that has evolved differently. Sadly they also breed like rabbits, so they are the majority by now.
Kuner1 1 week ago
@Kuner1 Trololol. Well, humans are inherently selfish, biased, and easily coerced. People kind of suck, and no amount of atheism is going to fix that.
Roy5595 6 days ago
@Roy5595
That is why Nietzsche said that "man must overcome himself" and strive to become the "Übermensch", compared to which today's man will look primitive like a worm, a creature ruled by its vices.
Nietzsche saw man as capable of greatness. No wonder the left has done everything it can to defame Nietzsche and his philosophy. The left, organised religion, every tyrant out there wants man to see himself as inherently faulted, so he will willingly let himself be ruled for the greater good.
Kuner1 6 days ago
@Kuner1 Well, that is sure interesting. But, how can man overcome his own in-born biases that are so ingrained in our psyche and genetics? It just doesn't seem possible to me. As for willingly let myself be ruled, I can't say I subscribe to that philosophy.
Roy5595 6 days ago
@Roy5595 I think its just healthy to recognize that we do have limitations as a species. Nothing is wrong with striving to overcome them but I do not think they will ever be totally overcome. Recognize weaknesses, celebrate strengths, love one another.
Roy5595 6 days ago
Correlation does not equal causation. Perhaps you've heard this before in the social sciences. Previous data collected indicates that the non-religious have a higher rate of suicide than the religious. Should we then conclude they are depressed because they are atheists? No. Sorry, its not so cut and dry. Violence hasn't only been done in the name of religious causes. Have we forgotten the communist movements? Atheism is not the be all end all solution for human peace and prosperity.
Roy5595 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Roy5595 "Atheism is not the be all end all solution for human peace and prosperity." I agree that it's not... but it sure helps, as evidenced in the facts shown in this video.
Straumnes 6 days ago
@Straumnes The data may be suggestive, but correlation does not equal causation. Like I said, the non-religious also have higher rates of suicides. What should we conclude from that? Its not that simple. Religion can make a person extremely peaceful too. However, I will say being part of a big organized religious system doesn't exactly promote peace and love. Quite contrary to what they should be teaching, at least for us Christians.
Roy5595 6 days ago
awesome
Lynnc83 1 week ago
Its funny because Cuba has a 100% atheist governemnt and is entirely run by Atheists. Cuba is a very peaceful place by the way its just that America wont let them do anything.
India is pretty peaceful because Hindu is actually a VERY peaceful and respectful religion that teaches people not to hate anyone for any reason unlike a lot of others
ANIOLATORV 1 week ago
And how come Finland has an even worse one when Finland has never started any wars?
JakobiaP 1 week ago
How comes sweden have a worse PI than Norway that's in NATO?
JakobiaP 1 week ago
Fine! I will be the one who ask it! What's the name of this really awesome song?? I just have to know it! XD
RooX94 1 week ago
Ok, I noticed that people in the comment area are talking about how Hitler and Stalin killed people because they were atheist. BS. Think for a moment. Religious bad people kill people BECAUSE their religion TOLD them to. Atheists CAN NEVER have that equivalent. They can't say "my nonbelief in your god TOLD me to kill you". It doesn't work that way. You cant be motivated by something you don't believe in. Anyways, Hitler was Catholic, and that point proves there are good/bad people, not religion.
ItsEasyIfYouThink 1 week ago
If people want to attribute atheism to the Holocaust, they should also realise that Adolf was also a vegetarian. Yep, a vegetarian. He killed 6 million Jews on the basis that he was vegetarian.
RatherCynical 1 week ago
That's why I wanna go tor Sweden lol.
left4stupidbyfaith 1 week ago
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How can Atheists make a claim that an Atheistic state would be peaceful. You do not need to make such claim. Atheistic states have existed and some exist today. Every single Atheist state has repressed religion and killed people like crazy for their religious beliefs. The Soviet Union, Cambodia, Mexico(Cristero's war), China, Revolutionary France, Albania, Mongolia, North Korea. They are all repressive countries. Seriously no difference between religious fanatics and Atheist.
AlexSpartan 1 week ago
Stalin was peaceful indeed, read something from Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
poligon333 1 week ago
@poligon333 ... We're talking about Atheistic nations that run via democracy (Sweden, Switzerland, Japan, Denmark, Finland, etc.), not Communist nations that run via dictatorship (Communist Russia/China/North Korea). That are run under Communist regimes, not "Atheistic" regimes (although there's not such thing as an "Atheistic" regime).
Fail.
GenerationBright 1 week ago
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JohnAnderssonTV 1 week ago
What about atheist nations in History? Russia under Stalin was atheist, they killed 23,000,000. Mao Zedong was atheist, he killed 80,000,000. Pol Pot was atheist, he killed like 30,000,000. In fact the most genocidal nations in the past century were mostly godless.
Scalpking47 1 week ago
@Scalpking47 They were also dictatorships. I wonder which aspect of these nations led to so many deaths: the atheism or the dictatorship?
MandiLuvsVideos 1 week ago
@MandiLuvsVideos they were dictators for sure, but it shows you don't need God or religion to commit genocide. If the whole world were atheist, there would still be evil people, not a damn thing would change. This video gives all the credit for peace to atheism, but i wonder if there were other aspects of these nations that led to so much peace.
Scalpking47 1 week ago
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@Scalpking47 Ugh, the ignorant always speak. Soviet Russia was Catholic. Pal Pot declared himself a supreme being, making himself a higher power. Not atheistic. None of the regimes were atheistic and did anything in the name of atheism. Hitler, actually, was a Catholic who killed 6 million Jews, not counting the others he slaughtered.
elnoraemily 1 week ago
@elnoraemily the ignorant don't read history. Stalin believed that religion was an opiate that needed to be removed to achieve a communist society. He purged his nation of religion killing 100,000 in 2 years. Pol Pot had no religious belief and said religion only leads to conflict and must be eliminated. They both killed in the name of atheism at one time or another but they were phsyco and killed for any reason. People will always find a reason to kill.
Scalpking47 1 week ago
@Scalpking47 Stalin wanted the people worship HIM, he was extremely paranoid and mentally ill so he detained and killed a large number of his people, Pol Pot was a psycopath who again like stalin wanted the people to worship him. So he killed all the educated people that would stand up against him. Its true that People will always find a Reason . but you cant compare dictators, sorry Imbeciles to All atheists. As a species we will never achieve absolute peace but religion does not help.
Tudorel98 1 week ago
@Scalpking47 lol its funny. Stalin, Mao, and Paulpot didn't kill people because they were atheist. There has been no motive of promoting atheism in the murders from all those dictators. Thats like saying that all Catholics are pedofiles because of those catholic priests who raped little children. Oh and by the way if you accumulate all the people killed in the name of religion, it has a way higher number than all of deaths summed up in your comment.
horang106 6 days ago
@horang106 i never said they killed ppl because they were atheist. They have used atheism as a motive to murder though. Stalin had special atheist schools and purged the nation of religion in the 1930s killing 100,000 priests, monks, and anyone believing in God. Pol Pot killed for many reasons, one believing religion would only lead to conflict, therefore eliminate religion. My only point is it doesn't take religion for people to be this evil.
Scalpking47 6 days ago
The UK wasn't on the survey? ):
armageddonfish 1 week ago
What the fuck is a peace index?
MrGreeneggsnham 1 week ago
I also noticed something else quite interesting in this "comparison"... the blatant *ABSENCE* of those Nations ranking: "38-31", "29-28", "26-17", "15-12", "10", "8", "5-3" and of course "1"!
Where are *THESE* nations which are conspicuously absent? And *WHY* are they conspicuously absent? -- Couldn't possibly have anything to do with them being (quote/unquote) "Religious" (aka "Non-Atheist") nations... could it? Otherwise,wouldn't we LOGICALLY see a CONSISTENT "UNBROKEN" PATTERN? (Just Askin')
GeneralBacklash 1 week ago
@GeneralBacklash As is clearly stated within its own content, this video is intended to disprove the (obviously) incorrect notion that secularism or even atheism has a positive correlation with violence or poor societal health. It is not intended to prove that religion corresponds with the aforementioned issues, although that argument could easily be made (and won).
titleloanman 1 week ago
@titleloanman
The title given to this video is: "'Atheist' Nations Are More Peaceful"
So with that said, I'd still like to have answered: "WHY" do so-called "Atheist Nations" not stack the deck in every one (or even most) of the *TOP SPOTS*?
Also, has it somehow been lost on everyone else the fact that those nations listed at the very "bottom" (save for the exceptions of Israel & India) are comprised of severely impoverished & often exploited "Third World" countries?
(Just Askin')
GeneralBacklash 1 week ago
@GeneralBacklash That shows that there is probably an association between religion and poverty.
LimesNorrlandicus 1 week ago
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@LimesNorrlandicus (Re: "That shows that there is probably an association between religion and poverty.") Umm... you *ARE* joking, right?
GeneralBacklash 1 week ago
@FFreeThinker
Thanks, very helpful. Encore!
godnmyhands 1 week ago
Does "peace" directly correlate with truth? Just asking ...
FillTheirVoid 1 week ago
what about canada
CreeprThaReaper 1 week ago
those top atheist countries are not at war or being occupied by another country otherwise you will see many violence in their country. nearly all the muslim countries are being bombed,occupied by another other countries plus they are run by corrupt despot government supported by the west. those top atheist countries are lucky they don't have a common enemy who is trying to undermine them or wanting to invade their country like most muslim countries have.
ajmolaliful 1 week ago
@ajmolaliful The countries with atheistic leanings are not "lucky" they aren't embroiled in a conflict like the one ongoing in the Middle East. Have you forgotten so easily that the conflict is a war of RELIGION?
titleloanman 1 week ago
Is it just me?... or was "NORTH KOREA" (100% atheist) somehow... umm... "left off" of this list?
GeneralBacklash 1 week ago
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@GeneralBacklash
"Is it just me?... or was "NORTH KOREA" (100% atheist) somehow... umm... "left off" of this list?"
North Koreans already believe in a god, worship and are willing to do great evil in the name of this being that they've constructed a religion around. His name is Kim Jong-un.
TurboDally 1 week ago
@TurboDally: "Atheists already believe in a god, worship and are willing to do great evil in the name of this being that they've constructed a religion around. His name is Charles Darwin."
GeneralBacklash 1 week ago
@GeneralBacklash I have no idea where you picked that bullshit up but how you came to your idea riddles me
theElectr0ne 1 week ago
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@theElectr0ne (re: "I have no idea where you picked that bullshit up but how you came to your idea riddles me") - I'm only quoting back to "TurboDally" his (or her?) own words, with just a slight "twist," based on what I've observed of most hardline self-described "atheists."
GeneralBacklash 1 week ago