and its funny how people like you forget that the gtr is awd and has a shitload of handling assists. the only reason it stayed close is because the vette has so much torque that you cant apply full throttle in and out of the turn or it will spin out. nissan didnt do anything but build a car that insults the r34 the 35 is shit it has the same chasis as the infiniti g35. and the zr1 is stock not a modded z06 read up before posting next time kid
oh bullshit you dont know shit first of all the zr1 is a version of the vette stock which means it comes standard from the factory you can go to any chevy dealer and order one. and the zr1 violated the gtr that chink chong car hasnt beat the zr1 in any catagory. as for the displacement haha a 6 cylinder and an 8 cylinder the vette wins there to, message me when the gtr becomes a le mans dynasty like the vette and not just a faggot asian chink mobile with no credentials GOOD DAY TO YOU
and even funnier you didnt say anything to the contrary that makes the gtr better. so when the gtr does what the vette has done then you can talk but untill then just go jack off to your fast and furious movies
the gtr has recieved horrid reviews it was called a pathetic replacement to the r34 that car didnt have all the electronic bs and it was a great car. still a nissan on steroids will never be in the same class as the world reknowned le mans dynasty corvette, when a gtr has a resume half as good as the vette's then respond back untill then shut the hell up and learn a thing or too about cars before making an idiot of yourself.
Speak for yourself.... you're the one who sparked into this convo. im just dealing with it. Im also not the one acting like a premie bashing about which car is better even though you're not much to listen to. Talk is cheap.
yo Greendude33 with the "6 figure salary", let me tell you where you slipped. You said your ZR-1 is putting down 685hp on dyno (which means it should be wheel horsepower). STOCK it puts out 500 to 530 to the wheels (not crank). How u gonna sit there and bullshit ppl saying that a CAI and catback exhaust system (not even full one cuz BORLA DOES NOT MAKE HEADERS FOR ZR-1) added over 150 WHEEL horsepower to ur Vette? Are u one of those guys who think a big spoiler adds 50hp? Get the fuck outta here
Homeboy I dont give a fuck about yo money OR your driving skills that you brag about so much that you probably dont even have in the first place. Tell me one thing HOW THE FUCK U DYNO A CAR AND MEASURE CRANK-- NOT WHEEL HP? Did you pull the engine out. Go claim a 150+hp increase by installing intake and catback exhaust somewhere else, cuz some ppl that watch these videos might just know what they talking about.
Seems like you punkass dont get the point-- it's not about me or what I drive. For all you know I could be riding a bicycle to 7 11 which could be my place of employment. But a person with a "6 figure salary and IQ of 140" should have an ability to determine what the topic of a simple paragraph is so I assume you already did and just happened to get off the subject. Let me repeat-- DYNO DOES NOT MEASURE CRANK HP, that's why we drive the CAR onto the dyno not the ENGINE. Where's my video?
Haha your pathetic I still dont know where you found me saying that i was claiming my zr1 made 685 whp. But remember that i have ZR1 and you have a fucking civic or corrolla i dont really know or care but your life seems to really blow.
The Comment troll who is at every ZR1 video with biased BS spewing out of your ass, hell your even low enough to mirror people's accounts knowing that im not going to waste my time on a faggot like you.
I gave up on ZR1 videos months ago after being constantly hounded by a couple of people, wasn't worth the hassle. As for mirroring people's accounts, you're quite frankly a complete idiot if you believe you know who over someone impersonating him.
In case you didnt already notice this is a ZR1 video. According to many people you are nothing more than a common youtube troll with unfactual biased claims. Nothing you say is credible and quite frankly I just dont care.
Run along you're going to miss your tea and crumpet party.
Yeah, THIS is a ZR1 video, not quite "all of them" is it? I challenge you to find 2 more ZR1 related videos I've commented on this year if you don't believe me.
According to many people? Like who? All youlance29's sock accounts? And I can back anything I claim up, funny how you believe all this from a troll in the first place. Show me this ZR1 you claim to own if you're credible.
But fine, pussy out if you must. Tea party is going well, how's your inbred sister (and lover)?
Maybe it's time for you to grab your custom made "Rolex" that I'm sure costs over a billion dollars and see wut time it is. Let me give you an idea-- it's time for you to go buy the best camera on the market (probably something for 50k or so since ur making six figures lol) and go shoot a video of yo ass driving both of the cars that "you own". I rest my case-- THANK YOU COME AGAIN
You sound like that dumbass white boy with a Viper from Tokyo Drift talking about his daddy's Viper and the Borla (yes he also said Borla) exhaust system that makes it put out "over 500 horsepower". lol Son please, get back to making your monopoly money and maybe you'll get rich one day
for a man with such glamour why dont you post a video on youtube of you with both your cars???
i dont doubt that you do on the other hand its just a lot of people talk about how much they have and in reality they happen to be the fat guy in a basement just watching youtube vids all day
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the gtr with 480hp already run 0-60mph in 3.3seconds and ran a 1/4mile in 11.3seconds....i still say that a zr1 is still slower than a stock gtr....becaue the zr1 have 620hp and ran a 1/4mile in 11.2seonds 0-60mph in 3.3seconds..and the gtr ant even a gtr spec v.....i'll get a gtr over a piece of shit red neck mucle car covette topline ZR1....GTR RULE
You are a total fool!!! Forget about the ZR1, the Z06, can do 11.3 at 126mph stock or 10.9 with slicks, 198mph top end(Faster than a GTR) and will walk a GTR from a roll-on any day, plus the sound is sooooo much better!!
Whats your excuse now! By the way when you write, it makes me laugh... i think you mentally handicapped!!
Save some money for a spare tranny if you plan on driving the GT-R hard on and off the track. My uncle's company supplies much of the test gear when they do these test for M.T.,R&T and some of the other major car magazine publications and the GT-R most often after the test has to be trailer home for transmission repairs. Its still an awesome car for the money though.
Your totally right. GTR is better than that ugly plastic C6 without even moving. A 640hp Civic doesnt impress me so why a 640HP C6? Well, i guess it makes all those sad vette lovers feel better before their company goes bankrupt for sucking
Plastic? Where? You mean carbon fiber. Have fun trying to drive your GT-R without it's fancy electronics and nannies; it's nothing without them. So much for a pure driving experience. Honestly, it's a shame what Nissan did to the GT-R name. The GT-R shares nothing with the Skyline GT-R it replaces. It's missing the RB26DETT and HICAS system and has way to many electronics.
@noshabibis I agree with you on the paddle shifters :P, long live the stick haha, but all the electronics VDC, launch control, they're all optional, you can turn them off, I always found VDC pointless because the car is AWD anyways, if you're a good driver, the car won't slip anyways, and launch control is just for people that have "lead feet" or people that can't keep it at a rev, or have really slow reactions lolz, and it being AWD is irrelevant, because it has disadvantages too
Look at the air vents on the front fenders and look at the rear spoiler that spans the entire width of the car, unlike the Z06; and you CAN see the raised hood and the window on top of it at 0:20
The Zr1 C4 corvettes did recive a LT5 QOHC setup (4 Cams). But the motor was produced by Lotus, not Chevy. They produced 375-400hp from 90-95. This vette did not produce the low end grunt Tq like the most push-rod motors. So that is why they did not cont. with this motor setup, and went on to produce the LSx motors.
the torqure ratings were also great on that engine, its fucking work of art. The reason the persormance numbers werent a staggering difference from the regular TPI engine was because he car was heavier, GM beefed up the driveline considerably to make the car practiaclly racetrack ready. There is alot of info available on that car, it was a really cool project
Fitting big DOHC heads into Corvette's engine bay would require using a smaller block, which means loosing displacement, which means loosing torque. So, compared to existing setup, you wind up with a more expensive engine with about the same horsepower, but with a higher CG and a lot less torque. Not a good idea.
Yeah, but Ferrari is more refined performance, you know, IRC, DOHC engines, carbon ceramic brakes, transmissions that shift in 60 milliseconds. Thing you cannot comprehend. Whereas The corvette is just straight line speed. Ferraris have high HP engines through careful and tedious development, all the corvette has going for it are huge 7L engines, superchargers, bits, read BITS, not pieces of carbon fiber, and carbon ceramic brakes from the Ferrari 599. zr1 only outperforms in a STRAIGHT LINE.
Well, you are about as wrong as you can be. The corvette is just straightline speed? But still it goes around the Nurburgring faster than any production Ferrari. You're wrong about the ZR1 having 7 liters. There's nothing inherently more "refined" about DOHC, it's hardly an advanced or new technology.. but it does add significant amounts of weight and parasitic power loss.
ok, I will admit it, I like the zr1, its rather nice. What I meant about the leaf springs was that they are also found on trucks, not that the zr1 has leaf springs of a truck. Im just saying that i would not put a suspension component from a truck on a high end sportscar. but based from the nürburgring lap time, if they work, oh well.
"What I meant about the leaf springs was that they are also found on trucks"
Personally, I find this irrelevant. Valves, crankshafts, fuel injection, sparkplugs, and more are found in trucks as well. Some trucks even have DOHC and turbochargers.
Secondly, you're not considering why Corvette went that route. they could go with an "old fashioned" coil spring setup, but that would just add weight and reduce durability.
I'm not sure I would phrase it that way. Additional valves DO allow for better engine breathing during high RPMs. But again, this, like all aspects of automotive engineering, is not without trade-offs.
If I understand your approach it seems to be that some engineering choices are just inherently superior to others. They are not.
For example, if the ZR1 had DOHC it would have 4 times the camshafts. Those camshafts are kind of heavy. And they would need to be above the cylinder heads, of course, raising the engines center of balance substantially. Then double the number of springs, valves, and lifters. More weight and more wear. You might be able to squeeze a little more performance at the top of the RPM range but at the cost of more weight, more money, and decreased reliability.
Durability, lower center of gravity, torque, and lower cost. "Absolute performance" is kind of a sketchy term. I'm assuming you mean horsepower output per kilogram of engine weight, but I personally find that a dubious standard.
Lets state the facts in the LeMans Circuit there is not much that Ferrari has for the Corvette.
As A matter of fact I think that Ferrari pulled its 599 because it could not compete with the Corvette much less the Aston Martin.
I guess when you bow out gracefully, the true fact is that Ferrari has nothing it can compare to the ZR1 in performance except a 1 million dollar limited edition Enzo.
You can really tell the misinformed morons from the rest of the people who actually take the time to look.The Corvette is the Fastest Production car to lap the Ring.That means in Factory Trim no upgrades to include tires.3 of the top five that Corvette beat are 100K more in price and the only one that isn't more expensive,the GT-R is coming with the V-Spec that is about the same price to try to beat the Corvette.You are a Moron.
hahah i think its funny how ppl bash on chevy...stfu your just mad bc nissan doesnt have the skills and technology to get on its level so keeping talking i know it makes you feel better
You, sir are a RETARD. Nissan doesnt have the technology? have you seen a GTR? I will admit, the zr1 is rather nice but its just fast because of the low weight and big ass supercharger. with out its supercharger and big ass engine, its nothing. The corvette still uses leafsprings, that are found on pickups. thats not technologic. more proof that nissans tech is far more advanced, how is it that nissan can get 500 hp from 3.8L but the zo6 only manages 505 from 7L? next time just shut up.
" how is it that nissan can get 500 hp from 3.8L but the zo6 only manages 505 from 7L? "
You ask this as if it's some kind of bizarre mystery or that it requires some super duper engineering that only nissan can match. Comparing engine displacement and power output is sort of ludicrous, a smaller displacement engine that produces more horsepower than a larger displacement engine is not inherently superior or more efficient.
wouldn't a smaller displacement engine that produces the same or more HP than another higher displacement engine be better because of the lower weight?
compared to another OHC v8 that redlines at 6000. wouldn't the advantage of more power outweigh the disadvantage of accelerated wear? bedsides, wouldn't the difference in engine life be negligible? Im talking about like engines in like a normal sports cars like an m3.
The redline in such an example is not due to the valvetrains. Redlines have to do with the mass spinning around the crankshaft. As the stroke increases the throw around the crankshaft increases, developing significantly higher centrifugal forces.
" wouldn't the advantage of more power outweigh the disadvantage of accelerated wear?"
This would depend on your application, of course. You can run engines at very high-speed and develop great levels of power per weight of the engine. But these engines tend to have very low levels of torque at low RPM and high levels of wear. That's fine for racing when engines aren't working for a long time and can be completely rebuilt after each race by a dedicated crew of technicians and nurses.
Those big V8s in corvettes are not poorly engineered by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, the LS7r, the engine used in the Corvette racing program, one "best engineered engine all of motorsports" in 2006. Many of Corvette's victories have come from their competitors breaking down at the end of hard races.
I did not mean they where poorly engineered, They have great performance, Just today the c6r beat the dbr9 at mosport. Im sure they would get more performance out of the engine if it had DOHC but the reliability would go down. and in a race like the 24hours of LeMans I guess I would choose the simple more reliable design. in the end more valves and camshafts doesnt always win out huh?
" in the end more valves and camshafts doesnt always win out huh?"
engineering is like life. There are always compromises. Always advantages and drawbacks. It's always about what you want a product to do. And then there is the resources you are working from. Corvette *could* go to a small, high revving V8... but it would increase costs, decrease reliability, decrease market share, etc.
DOHCs are more reliable. It eliminates the use of rocker arms therefore cutting friction and has less parts that rub together. GM just doesnt have the money to invest on R&D. Its the way they will eventually go. Put "GM DOHC development" in google. They still have to use "leaf springs" in the corvette for christ sake. Thats BS.
you're seriously trying to piss me off aren't you? sorry dude, you can't do it. like i said, i like you...you entertain me. so be a good pet and we'll go ride in my nissan or else i'll punish you and we'll ride in my Z06 instead.
LMAO!!! seriously funny dude. i like you too much, i've decided to adopt you as my pet. we'll go ride around my Z06. no? oh i forgot, we'll go ride in my nissan instead. how's that sound? sounds good huh? good boy ;) ...sit
hahahahahahah! you are hilarious. I will admit the zr1 is a great car. But so is the nissan gtr. They both have strengths and weaknesses. in the end they are both great cars and I love them both and would kill to own either one. (I wouldnt actually kill anyone, I am just saying)
yes, i'm not really a gtr 'hater' per se...i'm just biased towards the corvette. i wouldn't mind having a gtr though, but given the choice, i'd take the zr1.
sorry, i'm american, i can afford multiple cars...plus my job (which is more than i can say for you, allows me to afford my cars). oh and i'm not mad. seriously buddy, i find you very amusing keep it up m'kay ;) keep 'em coming!
know what, forget people beating ur ass on the streets ok ;) people will just run you over with a ZR1 (sadly i don't own one, if i did, i'd lend them the car) however, i do own a Z06...wait wait wait...how about this, i'll lend the person who runs you over with my Nissan (yes, i also own a Nissan). how about that? sounds fun? i think it does.
I never knew that if one has no technical knowledge or backing of one's comments, one would resort to rhetoric and dare I say it, low class ignorant rantings to defend inconsistent views that is wholely un-founded, un-supported, and just plain, fucked up. (oops, did I just stoop down to your level?) Sorry about that slip, anyways, if you're gonna claim that chevy is for fags and gets "OWNED punked pawned..." Please be sure to back it up with hard evidence and not just colorful metaphors ;)
you bastards that really think the gt-r can stand up to the ZR1 are ignorant. Proof is proof, read the magazines, youtube it, google it or wut u have to so u know..the ZR1 ran a 7.26 without their race car driver even driving. Seconds ahead of the GTR. Give the ZR1 to Ron Fellows (chevrolets c6R driver) and i wouldn't be suprised if he ran a second or two faster. proof is proof. you can like the gtr better but its not faster than a chevrolet ZR1. End of story...you can't win this argument.
yeah but the nissan GTR should not really be compared to the zr1. the zr1 is the premium model of the corvettes. the gtr is only the base model of the gtrs. The proper comparo would be a z06 against a gtr. or a zr1 against the upcoming nissan gtr V-Spec.
Well if your dumb ass will do some reserch, you will find the V-SPEC did not run that officially, some say it didn't run it at all. The 7:15 was clocked by randome bystanders at the track.
I'd have to say, as european, that I am surprised that the japanese and americans are swarming all over "the ring" with their cars - and kicking butt in the process. Remember not too long ago when an american car was a joke and a japanese car was a copy...not so anymore. As a die hard Porsche fan I hope they realize that they have to do their best to retain the crown. That they will do it I do not doubt for a second - but it will take all they've got.
as far as im concerned this is the fastest production car ever made for everyday use, everything else is a stripped down production car tuned for track usage only, this has a/c a radio, power everything, navi, nice cushy leather interior, a nice sound system, and is 10th alltime around the ring( for production cars) what more could u ask for
As far as I know the ZR-1 was not tested with semi slicks, the GT-R V-Spec was. A ZR-1 with semi slicks but shave off another few secs of that 7:26 time, I guess.
v-spec has no times yet, and the zr1 can easily post a better time with tires like the v-spec will have on, and Jan driving. I don't doubt the zr1 can get to 7:15 or better.
lol what better way to put down a rival company than to beat their car's time with a development engineer at the wheel instead of a professional race driver, and then to take out the even better version just by putting an actual race car driver in it?
Exactly, this goes to show anyone can hop in and drive the ZR1 well! So far not ONE magazine has been able to drive the gtr close to the gtr's times with a pro driver.
a lot of losers here i see,they just talk for the sake of talking ,to the head idiot bring your friends bmw and ill rape its ass so bad he ll move to germany
Oh yeah, it's not my friend's BMW, it's mine, so free to purchase Learn2Read off Amazon next time before responding. And as I said before, if you're stock, you're gone my friend.
Apparently you care if you reply. Dude dont waste my time by replying to what I said. I figured it was somebody with intelligent conversation, but now I just see it's some imbecile.
Veyron has been build to show that an everyday driver can drive a car at 400Km/h and here it is, you can also ride 15Km/h without temperature problems, thanks to the radiators...and the engine can produce 3000hp(just for information) but none clutch or gearbox would support that...it is a engineering piece which every details has been checked many times
There is a lingenfelter Vette that has a faster top speed than the Veyron and the Vette does it with less cylinders and less radiators. The top speed of the Vette was 260.32 mph.
but does it do that speed atgreat stability..is it anywhere even close to the luxury of a veyron.. is it built as well a veyron..does it have a gearbox as good as a veyron.. no
Well CERTAINLY not! You don't get a chrome asshole, a god complex, or even a 6 ft tall blond Ford model, either when you buy one of those damnable contraptions! Why the nerve of those pathetic poor people to waste our time with all their "peasant speak" is just beyond me. Maybe THEY should just stick to public transportation and leave the REAL car talk to the worthy among us. Am I RIGHT!?!
Every one talking about Veyron Here cant even Buy 4 Wheels of the Bugatti's << Guys its not an Everyday Car u cant see one everyday so u cant compare it
there is no production car to beat the veyron...NONE and if we go tuner cars there are several very fast cars ie:lingenfelter vette,somr ruff porsches some koenigg cars etc..but a veyron kills anything production,and easily at that.
It's also a million dollars and can't do ANYTHING but go in a straight line. So what's your point?? There are tons of cars that destroy the veyron on a track...which is the true test of a sports car.
are you nuts cant do anything but go straight this veyron will kill any of the other cars around a track have you ever seen what it does or are you stuck in the sixties technology like all the viper boys.lol
1st of all the ssc ultimate aero is faster in the str8s and is in the guiness book of world records for being the fastest production in the world, 2nd the zr1 beats the veyron around the ring by 12 seconds, in curcuit racing thats pure rapage, for a mil.2 its basically a let down
Funny you call the viper 60's tech when your Iroc-Z has pushrod V8, while the new Viper's engine actually has variable valve timing. Not to mention the Viper ACR (hell even the normal SRT10) would rape the Buggati on a track as well. It's been stated by numerous reviewers that the Bugatti handles about as good as a 4,500lb car can handle. It's not gonna outhandle performance cars that weigh 1,000-1,500 lbs less than it.
hmm lets see, the Mercedes-Benz 722 SLR McLaren, Koenigsegg CCR, Porsche 911 GT2, Porsche Carrera GT, Nissan GTR, and Pagani Zonda F all beat the Veyron on the Nordschleife (and it came in at only 2 seconds faster than the Corvette Z06).
I would question your car knowledge, but your name suggests that you just don't know better (seeing as how iroc-z camaros were some of the shittiest camaros in existence). It's ok little guy. We're laughing with you, not at you.
you loser you know less than nothing about cars ,and as for irocs beeing the shittiest ,for one they outhandle and out brake any other american car made before them are more aerodynamic and if you d like to race mine you are welcome to try and beat it,you are a complete idiot.
well seeing as how I raced one when I still had a mazda protege, and subsequently beat, I'd say they're pretty shitty. I'm not the pants-on-head retard who keeps blabbing "oh fuck! Nothing can beat the veyron, NOOOOOOTTTHHHHHHIIIIINNNNNNGGGGG."
And is your iroc stock? If so, you're raped my friend. BMW S52 M power ftw.
its not about horsepower beeing everything,its about the vette beeing a much better all around car than viper as for me beeing stupid thanks but the title of idiot of the decade is yours to keep .
wtf are you talking about a viper for? You said no production car could beat the veyron, and the only reason you listed was that it has double the horsepower. So I guess a funny car could beat the Veyron 6 times over? And I get idiot of the decade, good one dude.
Thats bullshit the gtr got a 7 40 second timing around the nurburgring . thats purly advertising just to sell there product. and im not saying that because im a corvette fan. and also how could a gtr bring down a veyron. the bugatti probobly beat the gtr. and the veyron has 2 times the hp of the gtr!
The Nürburgring test is significant because this is the first time Holden, which has lead responsibility for the Zeta platform and therefore the Camaro, has tested at the famed German track. As a result of that learning curve, the best unofficial lap times we've been able to obtain from observers on the scene are around the 9-minute mark — certainly well off the blistering pace set by the Corvette ZR1 at 7:40 and the Nissan GT-R Spec V, which ran an unofficial 7:25.
yukiotakata if you had any sense about these lap tests at all you would surely realize that you CANNOT compare car performances because lap time are measured under different levels of scrutiny, conditions, track lengths, drivers and preparation time. The Bugatti Veyron also clocked a 7:40. There's no way in hell that a G-TR can realistically beat the Veyron considering how much its completely dwarfed in the power, acceleration and top speed departments.
The Nürburgring test is significant because this is the first time Holden, which has lead responsibility for the Zeta platform and therefore the Camaro, has tested at the famed German track. As a result of that learning curve, the best unofficial lap times we've been able to obtain from observers on the scene are around the 9-minute mark — certainly well off the blistering pace set by the Corvette ZR1 at 7:40 and the Nissan GT-R Spec V, which ran an unofficial 7:25.
The Veyron is more of a cruiser then a gt or a sport car,yes it haves 1001 bhp,is it haves awd BUT the Veyron cant turn CORNERS sharp as a gtr or even a z06 AND IT CANT PUT ALL THAT POWER DOWN TO THE ROAD WHEN THE TRACK IS FULL OF ONDULATIONS AND ACLIVES AND DECLIVES,basicly the MOTIVE why the factorys chouse to test their sport machines on the nurburgring .believe me.AND CONGRATS FOR GM 7,26 FAST CAR.
oh and, any one know if GM plans to tune or revise this. If so i fill sorry for that guy who paid for a mil for a slower version then the production model, just becuase it was the first one made.
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Greendude33 2 years ago
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bigtrouble0037 2 years ago
the ZR1 and the Z06 are two different Vettes. I think you're just upset that the American car is faster and handles better than your "gee-tee-arr"
yung1jizzle1 2 years ago
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bigtrouble0037 2 years ago
and its funny how people like you forget that the gtr is awd and has a shitload of handling assists. the only reason it stayed close is because the vette has so much torque that you cant apply full throttle in and out of the turn or it will spin out. nissan didnt do anything but build a car that insults the r34 the 35 is shit it has the same chasis as the infiniti g35. and the zr1 is stock not a modded z06 read up before posting next time kid
Greendude33 2 years ago
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bigtrouble0037 2 years ago
oh bullshit you dont know shit first of all the zr1 is a version of the vette stock which means it comes standard from the factory you can go to any chevy dealer and order one. and the zr1 violated the gtr that chink chong car hasnt beat the zr1 in any catagory. as for the displacement haha a 6 cylinder and an 8 cylinder the vette wins there to, message me when the gtr becomes a le mans dynasty like the vette and not just a faggot asian chink mobile with no credentials GOOD DAY TO YOU
Greendude33 2 years ago
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bigtrouble0037 2 years ago
and even funnier you didnt say anything to the contrary that makes the gtr better. so when the gtr does what the vette has done then you can talk but untill then just go jack off to your fast and furious movies
Greendude33 2 years ago
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bigtrouble0037 2 years ago
the gtr has recieved horrid reviews it was called a pathetic replacement to the r34 that car didnt have all the electronic bs and it was a great car. still a nissan on steroids will never be in the same class as the world reknowned le mans dynasty corvette, when a gtr has a resume half as good as the vette's then respond back untill then shut the hell up and learn a thing or too about cars before making an idiot of yourself.
Greendude33 2 years ago
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bigtrouble0037 2 years ago
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Greendude33 2 years ago
Speak for yourself.... you're the one who sparked into this convo. im just dealing with it. Im also not the one acting like a premie bashing about which car is better even though you're not much to listen to. Talk is cheap.
bigtrouble0037 2 years ago
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Greendude33 2 years ago
you're a tool dude.
cliffabrown 2 years ago
yo Greendude33 with the "6 figure salary", let me tell you where you slipped. You said your ZR-1 is putting down 685hp on dyno (which means it should be wheel horsepower). STOCK it puts out 500 to 530 to the wheels (not crank). How u gonna sit there and bullshit ppl saying that a CAI and catback exhaust system (not even full one cuz BORLA DOES NOT MAKE HEADERS FOR ZR-1) added over 150 WHEEL horsepower to ur Vette? Are u one of those guys who think a big spoiler adds 50hp? Get the fuck outta here
jasonlee1979RT 2 years ago
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Greendude33 2 years ago
Homeboy I dont give a fuck about yo money OR your driving skills that you brag about so much that you probably dont even have in the first place. Tell me one thing HOW THE FUCK U DYNO A CAR AND MEASURE CRANK-- NOT WHEEL HP? Did you pull the engine out. Go claim a 150+hp increase by installing intake and catback exhaust somewhere else, cuz some ppl that watch these videos might just know what they talking about.
jasonlee1979RT 2 years ago
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Greendude33 2 years ago
Seems like you punkass dont get the point-- it's not about me or what I drive. For all you know I could be riding a bicycle to 7 11 which could be my place of employment. But a person with a "6 figure salary and IQ of 140" should have an ability to determine what the topic of a simple paragraph is so I assume you already did and just happened to get off the subject. Let me repeat-- DYNO DOES NOT MEASURE CRANK HP, that's why we drive the CAR onto the dyno not the ENGINE. Where's my video?
jasonlee1979RT 2 years ago
Haha your pathetic I still dont know where you found me saying that i was claiming my zr1 made 685 whp. But remember that i have ZR1 and you have a fucking civic or corrolla i dont really know or care but your life seems to really blow.
Greendude33 2 years ago
@Greendude33
So you're 23 and claim to have a ZR1? Anyone else smell bull?
StuRaz 1 year ago
Really are we going to listen to you?
The Comment troll who is at every ZR1 video with biased BS spewing out of your ass, hell your even low enough to mirror people's accounts knowing that im not going to waste my time on a faggot like you.
Greendude33 1 year ago
@Greendude33
I gave up on ZR1 videos months ago after being constantly hounded by a couple of people, wasn't worth the hassle. As for mirroring people's accounts, you're quite frankly a complete idiot if you believe you know who over someone impersonating him.
Gullable sheep.
StuRaz 1 year ago
In case you didnt already notice this is a ZR1 video. According to many people you are nothing more than a common youtube troll with unfactual biased claims. Nothing you say is credible and quite frankly I just dont care.
Run along you're going to miss your tea and crumpet party.
Greendude33 1 year ago
@Greendude33
Yeah, THIS is a ZR1 video, not quite "all of them" is it? I challenge you to find 2 more ZR1 related videos I've commented on this year if you don't believe me.
According to many people? Like who? All youlance29's sock accounts? And I can back anything I claim up, funny how you believe all this from a troll in the first place. Show me this ZR1 you claim to own if you're credible.
But fine, pussy out if you must. Tea party is going well, how's your inbred sister (and lover)?
StuRaz 1 year ago
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dude im 22 and i own a zr1 with a k&n cold air induction and a borla full bore titanium exhaust system. im putting down 685hp on the dyno "
haxlord 2 years ago
Maybe it's time for you to grab your custom made "Rolex" that I'm sure costs over a billion dollars and see wut time it is. Let me give you an idea-- it's time for you to go buy the best camera on the market (probably something for 50k or so since ur making six figures lol) and go shoot a video of yo ass driving both of the cars that "you own". I rest my case-- THANK YOU COME AGAIN
jasonlee1979RT 2 years ago
You sound like that dumbass white boy with a Viper from Tokyo Drift talking about his daddy's Viper and the Borla (yes he also said Borla) exhaust system that makes it put out "over 500 horsepower". lol Son please, get back to making your monopoly money and maybe you'll get rich one day
jasonlee1979RT 2 years ago
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Greendude33 2 years ago
for a man with such glamour why dont you post a video on youtube of you with both your cars???
i dont doubt that you do on the other hand its just a lot of people talk about how much they have and in reality they happen to be the fat guy in a basement just watching youtube vids all day
lpwakesk848 2 years ago 2
its funny how the GTR has all this electronic bullshit and the ZR1 still seems to drive smoother...
ClumzyThief666 3 years ago
What video did you watch? It takes a expert to drive the corvette at those speeds where the GTR does not need that good of a driver!
TrueMarine 2 years ago
DODGE VIPER RAPPED THIS POS
GTSRBOY 3 years ago
Because the ACR is a stripped down track car. Strip down a ZR1 and give it the track tires the ACR had, THEN we'll see who's faster.
NFSGamerUSA 3 years ago 3
THE DODGE-VIPER srt-10-ACR still has the track record. God bless the viper.
cryteeek 3 years ago
get a real video camera, this totally sucks.
jacquemeihoffe 3 years ago
Smoocher.
wildbloodydragon 3 years ago
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the gtr with 480hp already run 0-60mph in 3.3seconds and ran a 1/4mile in 11.3seconds....i still say that a zr1 is still slower than a stock gtr....becaue the zr1 have 620hp and ran a 1/4mile in 11.2seonds 0-60mph in 3.3seconds..and the gtr ant even a gtr spec v.....i'll get a gtr over a piece of shit red neck mucle car covette topline ZR1....GTR RULE
jdcha9163 3 years ago
You are a total fool!!! Forget about the ZR1, the Z06, can do 11.3 at 126mph stock or 10.9 with slicks, 198mph top end(Faster than a GTR) and will walk a GTR from a roll-on any day, plus the sound is sooooo much better!!
Whats your excuse now! By the way when you write, it makes me laugh... i think you mentally handicapped!!
gpk24 3 years ago 2
hmmmm did the ZO6 bet the GTR on the Top gear test track noooooo because guess what the T/G test track has corners lol
sw1000xg 3 years ago
By the way, there has been alot of problems with the GTRs tranny, and when they blow, you have to wait 6 months... awsome car!!
gpk24 3 years ago 2
hahaha...he's nothing but a ricer. he wouldn't know what a permormance car is if one ran over him.
SilentShadow7r7 3 years ago
Save some money for a spare tranny if you plan on driving the GT-R hard on and off the track. My uncle's company supplies much of the test gear when they do these test for M.T.,R&T and some of the other major car magazine publications and the GT-R most often after the test has to be trailer home for transmission repairs. Its still an awesome car for the money though.
jgtemplars 3 years ago
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Your totally right. GTR is better than that ugly plastic C6 without even moving. A 640hp Civic doesnt impress me so why a 640HP C6? Well, i guess it makes all those sad vette lovers feel better before their company goes bankrupt for sucking
GTSRBOY 3 years ago
Plastic? Where? You mean carbon fiber. Have fun trying to drive your GT-R without it's fancy electronics and nannies; it's nothing without them. So much for a pure driving experience. Honestly, it's a shame what Nissan did to the GT-R name. The GT-R shares nothing with the Skyline GT-R it replaces. It's missing the RB26DETT and HICAS system and has way to many electronics.
NFSGamerUSA 3 years ago 8
@NFSGamerUSA true, paddle shifters, AWD, Launch Control, and the list keeps going on. The GT-R drives itself basically.
noshabibis 1 year ago
@noshabibis I agree with you on the paddle shifters :P, long live the stick haha, but all the electronics VDC, launch control, they're all optional, you can turn them off, I always found VDC pointless because the car is AWD anyways, if you're a good driver, the car won't slip anyways, and launch control is just for people that have "lead feet" or people that can't keep it at a rev, or have really slow reactions lolz, and it being AWD is irrelevant, because it has disadvantages too
LR029711558 9 months ago
Go grab your fag tuner and try keeping up on track or strip with the zr1 or even the z06, the truth hurts doesnt it lil guy?
guardian0909 3 years ago
for one thing its not even a ZR-1 its a ZO6, u can't see the supercharger on the carbon fiber hood.
ijenkins4 3 years ago
It is a ZR1.
Look at the air vents on the front fenders and look at the rear spoiler that spans the entire width of the car, unlike the Z06; and you CAN see the raised hood and the window on top of it at 0:20
+ you can also tell by the wheels.
saskLS1 3 years ago
The Zr1 C4 corvettes did recive a LT5 QOHC setup (4 Cams). But the motor was produced by Lotus, not Chevy. They produced 375-400hp from 90-95. This vette did not produce the low end grunt Tq like the most push-rod motors. So that is why they did not cont. with this motor setup, and went on to produce the LSx motors.
domi31 3 years ago
wrong, the cylinder heads were produced by lotus, they were contracted by chevrolet.
BiffBallbag 3 years ago
good to know, I always thought it was a complete Lotus motor.
domi31 3 years ago
the torqure ratings were also great on that engine, its fucking work of art. The reason the persormance numbers werent a staggering difference from the regular TPI engine was because he car was heavier, GM beefed up the driveline considerably to make the car practiaclly racetrack ready. There is alot of info available on that car, it was a really cool project
BiffBallbag 3 years ago
A 7L V8 Lotus Motor? Yeah right!
torod213 3 years ago
Fitting big DOHC heads into Corvette's engine bay would require using a smaller block, which means loosing displacement, which means loosing torque. So, compared to existing setup, you wind up with a more expensive engine with about the same horsepower, but with a higher CG and a lot less torque. Not a good idea.
VAspeed3 3 years ago
only thing that i dont like on the gtr is the sequential transmission. prefer a normal 6 speed.
mobius1291 3 years ago
How is that shit? thats a good lap time. since its new, that means they can improve on the lap time in new models.
mobius1291 3 years ago
Let's state the facts, what makes a car have a name it's the formula one racing, now, how many championships has chevy won?, and Ferrari?.
Enzo Ferrari used to say: when a Ferrari wins, theres is no doubt it's the car, and when a Ferrari loses, there is no doubt it's the driver.
FranciscoUrteaga 3 years ago
Let's state the facts? Well, you're not stating a relevant fact, and then you go to just repeat Enzo's *opinion.*
Formula 1 is a neat little sport, but F1 cars are not street cars. And Chevrolet sensibly has little real interest in F1.
The bottom line is the ZR1 outperforms Ferraris costing far, far more. And it has little to do with the Ferraris having bad drivers.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
Yeah, but Ferrari is more refined performance, you know, IRC, DOHC engines, carbon ceramic brakes, transmissions that shift in 60 milliseconds. Thing you cannot comprehend. Whereas The corvette is just straight line speed. Ferraris have high HP engines through careful and tedious development, all the corvette has going for it are huge 7L engines, superchargers, bits, read BITS, not pieces of carbon fiber, and carbon ceramic brakes from the Ferrari 599. zr1 only outperforms in a STRAIGHT LINE.
mobius1291 3 years ago
Well, you are about as wrong as you can be. The corvette is just straightline speed? But still it goes around the Nurburgring faster than any production Ferrari. You're wrong about the ZR1 having 7 liters. There's nothing inherently more "refined" about DOHC, it's hardly an advanced or new technology.. but it does add significant amounts of weight and parasitic power loss.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
The ZR1 has a "big ass supercharger?" you're nuts; it's actually small and quite advanced, which is why Audi is adopting the same supercharger...
Leaf springs out of a truck? Hahaha. You're just showing your own ignorance, kiddo.
You wrote:
"Oh my god... Thank you. Finally someone who is not an idiot on youtube."
And then you wondered in and began blabbering like a total idiot.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
ok, I will admit it, I like the zr1, its rather nice. What I meant about the leaf springs was that they are also found on trucks, not that the zr1 has leaf springs of a truck. Im just saying that i would not put a suspension component from a truck on a high end sportscar. but based from the nürburgring lap time, if they work, oh well.
mobius1291 3 years ago
"What I meant about the leaf springs was that they are also found on trucks"
Personally, I find this irrelevant. Valves, crankshafts, fuel injection, sparkplugs, and more are found in trucks as well. Some trucks even have DOHC and turbochargers.
Secondly, you're not considering why Corvette went that route. they could go with an "old fashioned" coil spring setup, but that would just add weight and reduce durability.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
I get what you mean but they are not the same.
mobius1291 3 years ago
but doesn't DOHC allow for faster engine speed?
mobius1291 3 years ago
"but doesn't DOHC allow for faster engine speed?"
I'm not sure I would phrase it that way. Additional valves DO allow for better engine breathing during high RPMs. But again, this, like all aspects of automotive engineering, is not without trade-offs.
If I understand your approach it seems to be that some engineering choices are just inherently superior to others. They are not.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
For example, if the ZR1 had DOHC it would have 4 times the camshafts. Those camshafts are kind of heavy. And they would need to be above the cylinder heads, of course, raising the engines center of balance substantially. Then double the number of springs, valves, and lifters. More weight and more wear. You might be able to squeeze a little more performance at the top of the RPM range but at the cost of more weight, more money, and decreased reliability.
danieleriskay 3 years ago 2
so what you are saying is that with the corvette they went with durability and reliability rather than absolute performance?
mobius1291 3 years ago
Durability, lower center of gravity, torque, and lower cost. "Absolute performance" is kind of a sketchy term. I'm assuming you mean horsepower output per kilogram of engine weight, but I personally find that a dubious standard.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
very intelligent posts-thats rare on here.
304teddy 3 years ago
i believe the increased rpm capability in ohc's is due to less recipricating weight between the cam and valve.
304teddy 3 years ago
FranciscoUrteaga>
Lets state the facts in the LeMans Circuit there is not much that Ferrari has for the Corvette.
As A matter of fact I think that Ferrari pulled its 599 because it could not compete with the Corvette much less the Aston Martin.
I guess when you bow out gracefully, the true fact is that Ferrari has nothing it can compare to the ZR1 in performance except a 1 million dollar limited edition Enzo.
Nice Facts.
freekingrican 3 years ago
i find it entertaining that these ricerfags quote the 7.25 as "fact" seeing as how the time came from a fanboy with a stopwatch.
304teddy 3 years ago
You can really tell the misinformed morons from the rest of the people who actually take the time to look.The Corvette is the Fastest Production car to lap the Ring.That means in Factory Trim no upgrades to include tires.3 of the top five that Corvette beat are 100K more in price and the only one that isn't more expensive,the GT-R is coming with the V-Spec that is about the same price to try to beat the Corvette.You are a Moron.
freekingrican 3 years ago
hahah i think its funny how ppl bash on chevy...stfu your just mad bc nissan doesnt have the skills and technology to get on its level so keeping talking i know it makes you feel better
raiderred2 3 years ago
You, sir are a RETARD. Nissan doesnt have the technology? have you seen a GTR? I will admit, the zr1 is rather nice but its just fast because of the low weight and big ass supercharger. with out its supercharger and big ass engine, its nothing. The corvette still uses leafsprings, that are found on pickups. thats not technologic. more proof that nissans tech is far more advanced, how is it that nissan can get 500 hp from 3.8L but the zo6 only manages 505 from 7L? next time just shut up.
mobius1291 3 years ago
" how is it that nissan can get 500 hp from 3.8L but the zo6 only manages 505 from 7L? "
You ask this as if it's some kind of bizarre mystery or that it requires some super duper engineering that only nissan can match. Comparing engine displacement and power output is sort of ludicrous, a smaller displacement engine that produces more horsepower than a larger displacement engine is not inherently superior or more efficient.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
All you have to do is add forced induction or run at higher RPMs. Of course, that has all sorts of very real drawbacks.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
wouldn't a smaller displacement engine that produces the same or more HP than another higher displacement engine be better because of the lower weight?
mobius1291 3 years ago
Only if it is indeed lower weight and equal or superior in terms of engine life and the distribution of its power/torque curves across the RPM range.
If you run higher RPMs you accelerate wear on every component.
If you add turbochargers and intercoolers and associated piping, you add weight. And thermal challenges.
If you add DOHC you add more weight. And more wear.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
What about say, a DOHC v8 that redlines at 8000
compared to another OHC v8 that redlines at 6000. wouldn't the advantage of more power outweigh the disadvantage of accelerated wear? bedsides, wouldn't the difference in engine life be negligible? Im talking about like engines in like a normal sports cars like an m3.
mobius1291 3 years ago
"What about say, a DOHC v8 that redlines at 8000
compared to another OHC v8 that redlines at 6000"
The redline in such an example is not due to the valvetrains. Redlines have to do with the mass spinning around the crankshaft. As the stroke increases the throw around the crankshaft increases, developing significantly higher centrifugal forces.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
" wouldn't the advantage of more power outweigh the disadvantage of accelerated wear?"
This would depend on your application, of course. You can run engines at very high-speed and develop great levels of power per weight of the engine. But these engines tend to have very low levels of torque at low RPM and high levels of wear. That's fine for racing when engines aren't working for a long time and can be completely rebuilt after each race by a dedicated crew of technicians and nurses.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
Those big V8s in corvettes are not poorly engineered by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, the LS7r, the engine used in the Corvette racing program, one "best engineered engine all of motorsports" in 2006. Many of Corvette's victories have come from their competitors breaking down at the end of hard races.
danieleriskay 3 years ago 3
I did not mean they where poorly engineered, They have great performance, Just today the c6r beat the dbr9 at mosport. Im sure they would get more performance out of the engine if it had DOHC but the reliability would go down. and in a race like the 24hours of LeMans I guess I would choose the simple more reliable design. in the end more valves and camshafts doesnt always win out huh?
mobius1291 3 years ago
" in the end more valves and camshafts doesnt always win out huh?"
engineering is like life. There are always compromises. Always advantages and drawbacks. It's always about what you want a product to do. And then there is the resources you are working from. Corvette *could* go to a small, high revving V8... but it would increase costs, decrease reliability, decrease market share, etc.
danieleriskay 3 years ago
DOHCs are more reliable. It eliminates the use of rocker arms therefore cutting friction and has less parts that rub together. GM just doesnt have the money to invest on R&D. Its the way they will eventually go. Put "GM DOHC development" in google. They still have to use "leaf springs" in the corvette for christ sake. Thats BS.
gidsum29 3 years ago
Like in an F1 car, revs to 20000, 750HP out of 2.4L but could explode at any second.
mobius1291 3 years ago 2
Considering that's faster than a CCX, Carrera GT, or the unofficial Enzo time, I'd say no, no it isn't.
Alle525 3 years ago
eeesh, idiot
mcromance1 3 years ago
hulkhogan66666666666, das asco perro comunista hijo de puta, oajala se vuelen a tu familia a la mierda cuando saquen al bastardo de chavez del poder.
MKGOT56 3 years ago
OTFLMAO!!!! i couldn't stop laughing
SilentShadow7r7 3 years ago
you're seriously trying to piss me off aren't you? sorry dude, you can't do it. like i said, i like you...you entertain me. so be a good pet and we'll go ride in my nissan or else i'll punish you and we'll ride in my Z06 instead.
SilentShadow7r7 3 years ago 3
LMAO!!! seriously funny dude. i like you too much, i've decided to adopt you as my pet. we'll go ride around my Z06. no? oh i forgot, we'll go ride in my nissan instead. how's that sound? sounds good huh? good boy ;) ...sit
SilentShadow7r7 3 years ago 2
hahahahahahah! you are hilarious. I will admit the zr1 is a great car. But so is the nissan gtr. They both have strengths and weaknesses. in the end they are both great cars and I love them both and would kill to own either one. (I wouldnt actually kill anyone, I am just saying)
mobius1291 3 years ago
yes, i'm not really a gtr 'hater' per se...i'm just biased towards the corvette. i wouldn't mind having a gtr though, but given the choice, i'd take the zr1.
SilentShadow7r7 3 years ago
sorry, i'm american, i can afford multiple cars...plus my job (which is more than i can say for you, allows me to afford my cars). oh and i'm not mad. seriously buddy, i find you very amusing keep it up m'kay ;) keep 'em coming!
SilentShadow7r7 3 years ago 3
know what, forget people beating ur ass on the streets ok ;) people will just run you over with a ZR1 (sadly i don't own one, if i did, i'd lend them the car) however, i do own a Z06...wait wait wait...how about this, i'll lend the person who runs you over with my Nissan (yes, i also own a Nissan). how about that? sounds fun? i think it does.
SilentShadow7r7 3 years ago
i find you very amusing. don't lose that charm...otherwise, people won't beat your ass when they see you on the streets ok? cheers buddy.
SilentShadow7r7 3 years ago
thanks for proving my point dear buddy.
SilentShadow7r7 3 years ago
You know, your new pet is rather disobedient, you should get it trained or something. It keeps making an ass of itself.
mobius1291 3 years ago
yeah, i agree...i'm thinking of having him neutered. you know, to show him who's got the balls (literally OTFLMAO!!!)
SilentShadow7r7 3 years ago
I never knew that if one has no technical knowledge or backing of one's comments, one would resort to rhetoric and dare I say it, low class ignorant rantings to defend inconsistent views that is wholely un-founded, un-supported, and just plain, fucked up. (oops, did I just stoop down to your level?) Sorry about that slip, anyways, if you're gonna claim that chevy is for fags and gets "OWNED punked pawned..." Please be sure to back it up with hard evidence and not just colorful metaphors ;)
SilentShadow7r7 3 years ago
Oh my god... Thank you. Finally someone who is not an idiot on youtube.
mobius1291 3 years ago
you bastards that really think the gt-r can stand up to the ZR1 are ignorant. Proof is proof, read the magazines, youtube it, google it or wut u have to so u know..the ZR1 ran a 7.26 without their race car driver even driving. Seconds ahead of the GTR. Give the ZR1 to Ron Fellows (chevrolets c6R driver) and i wouldn't be suprised if he ran a second or two faster. proof is proof. you can like the gtr better but its not faster than a chevrolet ZR1. End of story...you can't win this argument.
YoungJordan23 3 years ago
yeah but the nissan GTR should not really be compared to the zr1. the zr1 is the premium model of the corvettes. the gtr is only the base model of the gtrs. The proper comparo would be a z06 against a gtr. or a zr1 against the upcoming nissan gtr V-Spec.
Chevy Nissan
corvette vs ------
corvette z06 vs GTR
corvette zr1 vs GTR V-Spec
that would be the proper comparo.
mobius1291 3 years ago
LOL, your funny.
TEFLONTHADON 3 years ago
Well if your dumb ass will do some reserch, you will find the V-SPEC did not run that officially, some say it didn't run it at all. The 7:15 was clocked by randome bystanders at the track.
TEFLONTHADON 3 years ago
The ZR1 just ran a 7:26.4 at the ring. The GTR is no longer anything to anybody.
TEFLONTHADON 3 years ago 2
Evidence please. Is that it's fastest time?! I was hoping it'd be seconds quicker than the PCGT.. :[
themuzeA 3 years ago
Just do some reserch, you'll find it.
TEFLONTHADON 3 years ago
I'd have to say, as european, that I am surprised that the japanese and americans are swarming all over "the ring" with their cars - and kicking butt in the process. Remember not too long ago when an american car was a joke and a japanese car was a copy...not so anymore. As a die hard Porsche fan I hope they realize that they have to do their best to retain the crown. That they will do it I do not doubt for a second - but it will take all they've got.
bennovitz 3 years ago
what a gorgeous car! power, styling and more power! power to the people! lets smoke all the Ferraris!!!
tiburonski 3 years ago 2
hey i misunderstood wut u said haha my bad...i thought u were saying that about zr1 hha nothing much sry
ryancave1234 3 years ago
so i shouldnt have posted that time.... the zr1 owns all porsche lambos n ferraris for 100k less... a no brainer
ryancave1234 3 years ago
as far as im concerned this is the fastest production car ever made for everyday use, everything else is a stripped down production car tuned for track usage only, this has a/c a radio, power everything, navi, nice cushy leather interior, a nice sound system, and is 10th alltime around the ring( for production cars) what more could u ask for
pimpinkin87 3 years ago
ryancave1234 3 years ago
As far as I know the ZR-1 was not tested with semi slicks, the GT-R V-Spec was. A ZR-1 with semi slicks but shave off another few secs of that 7:26 time, I guess.
Airox180 3 years ago
v-spec has no times yet, and the zr1 can easily post a better time with tires like the v-spec will have on, and Jan driving. I don't doubt the zr1 can get to 7:15 or better.
KngZ28 3 years ago
lol what better way to put down a rival company than to beat their car's time with a development engineer at the wheel instead of a professional race driver, and then to take out the even better version just by putting an actual race car driver in it?
PukaMan 3 years ago 4
Exactly, this goes to show anyone can hop in and drive the ZR1 well! So far not ONE magazine has been able to drive the gtr close to the gtr's times with a pro driver.
KngZ28 3 years ago
ur an idiot ....at the first attempt they got it....its took 5 dif guys to get that GTR time. the first driver of the zr1 got 1.26
ryancave1234 3 years ago
7:25.8 is BS, this is the ONLY place on the internet that this number is ported. You made it up. Google the ZR1's time and pages of reports come up.
KngZ28 3 years ago
im not a supporter of the vspec...i looked at the source i got it from and it said in parathesis estimated from bystanders onthe track unofficial
ryancave1234 3 years ago
a lot of losers here i see,they just talk for the sake of talking ,to the head idiot bring your friends bmw and ill rape its ass so bad he ll move to germany
camirocz 3 years ago
Oh yeah, it's not my friend's BMW, it's mine, so free to purchase Learn2Read off Amazon next time before responding. And as I said before, if you're stock, you're gone my friend.
PukaMan 3 years ago
Apparently you care if you reply. Dude dont waste my time by replying to what I said. I figured it was somebody with intelligent conversation, but now I just see it's some imbecile.
puckerzzz 3 years ago
love the sound
vipeme1 3 years ago
Veyron has been build to show that an everyday driver can drive a car at 400Km/h and here it is, you can also ride 15Km/h without temperature problems, thanks to the radiators...and the engine can produce 3000hp(just for information) but none clutch or gearbox would support that...it is a engineering piece which every details has been checked many times
Kheops63 3 years ago
There is a lingenfelter Vette that has a faster top speed than the Veyron and the Vette does it with less cylinders and less radiators. The top speed of the Vette was 260.32 mph.
puckerzzz 3 years ago
but does it do that speed atgreat stability..is it anywhere even close to the luxury of a veyron.. is it built as well a veyron..does it have a gearbox as good as a veyron.. no
steflotti105 3 years ago
Well CERTAINLY not! You don't get a chrome asshole, a god complex, or even a 6 ft tall blond Ford model, either when you buy one of those damnable contraptions! Why the nerve of those pathetic poor people to waste our time with all their "peasant speak" is just beyond me. Maybe THEY should just stick to public transportation and leave the REAL car talk to the worthy among us. Am I RIGHT!?!
drtyfknmouth 3 years ago
Every one talking about Veyron Here cant even Buy 4 Wheels of the Bugatti's << Guys its not an Everyday Car u cant see one everyday so u cant compare it
Bader88 3 years ago
there is no production car to beat the veyron...NONE and if we go tuner cars there are several very fast cars ie:lingenfelter vette,somr ruff porsches some koenigg cars etc..but a veyron kills anything production,and easily at that.
camirocz 3 years ago
It's also a million dollars and can't do ANYTHING but go in a straight line. So what's your point?? There are tons of cars that destroy the veyron on a track...which is the true test of a sports car.
pumafiveoh 3 years ago
are you nuts cant do anything but go straight this veyron will kill any of the other cars around a track have you ever seen what it does or are you stuck in the sixties technology like all the viper boys.lol
camirocz 3 years ago
1st of all the ssc ultimate aero is faster in the str8s and is in the guiness book of world records for being the fastest production in the world, 2nd the zr1 beats the veyron around the ring by 12 seconds, in curcuit racing thats pure rapage, for a mil.2 its basically a let down
pimpinkin87 3 years ago
Funny you call the viper 60's tech when your Iroc-Z has pushrod V8, while the new Viper's engine actually has variable valve timing. Not to mention the Viper ACR (hell even the normal SRT10) would rape the Buggati on a track as well. It's been stated by numerous reviewers that the Bugatti handles about as good as a 4,500lb car can handle. It's not gonna outhandle performance cars that weigh 1,000-1,500 lbs less than it.
PukaMan 3 years ago
hmm lets see, the Mercedes-Benz 722 SLR McLaren, Koenigsegg CCR, Porsche 911 GT2, Porsche Carrera GT, Nissan GTR, and Pagani Zonda F all beat the Veyron on the Nordschleife (and it came in at only 2 seconds faster than the Corvette Z06).
I would question your car knowledge, but your name suggests that you just don't know better (seeing as how iroc-z camaros were some of the shittiest camaros in existence). It's ok little guy. We're laughing with you, not at you.
PukaMan 3 years ago
you loser you know less than nothing about cars ,and as for irocs beeing the shittiest ,for one they outhandle and out brake any other american car made before them are more aerodynamic and if you d like to race mine you are welcome to try and beat it,you are a complete idiot.
camirocz 3 years ago
well seeing as how I raced one when I still had a mazda protege, and subsequently beat, I'd say they're pretty shitty. I'm not the pants-on-head retard who keeps blabbing "oh fuck! Nothing can beat the veyron, NOOOOOOTTTHHHHHHIIIIINNNNNNGGGGG."
And is your iroc stock? If so, you're raped my friend. BMW S52 M power ftw.
PukaMan 3 years ago
you are a complete loser
camirocz 3 years ago
And you're an iroc-z driver. Fail. I've already listed multiple cars that can outdo the Bugatti on track. You're just stubborn for not accepting it.
PukaMan 3 years ago
Oh yeah, AND the Corvette ZR1 beat the Bugatti's time on the Nurburgring as well. Jot one more car down that can outdo the Veyron on the track.
PukaMan 3 years ago
lol I like how you only compare it to american cars. Not to mention I highly doubt it could outperform the Cobra 427 S/C.
PukaMan 3 years ago
the ultimate aero can. i bet the ccxr can sen as it has slighly more power and isaout 400kg lighter
steflotti105 3 years ago
nothing production can beat a veyron its got double the h.p of every other car.
camirocz 3 years ago
you're stupid for thinking hp is everything.
ryaneirich 3 years ago
its not about horsepower beeing everything,its about the vette beeing a much better all around car than viper as for me beeing stupid thanks but the title of idiot of the decade is yours to keep .
camirocz 3 years ago
wtf are you talking about a viper for? You said no production car could beat the veyron, and the only reason you listed was that it has double the horsepower. So I guess a funny car could beat the Veyron 6 times over? And I get idiot of the decade, good one dude.
ryaneirich 3 years ago
what at the ssc ultimate aero tt then.. 1183hp.. thank u now shut up
steflotti105 3 years ago
good quality
vipeme1 3 years ago
Thats bullshit the gtr got a 7 40 second timing around the nurburgring . thats purly advertising just to sell there product. and im not saying that because im a corvette fan. and also how could a gtr bring down a veyron. the bugatti probobly beat the gtr. and the veyron has 2 times the hp of the gtr!
corvettegtr 3 years ago
Road&Track: Read On!
The Nürburgring test is significant because this is the first time Holden, which has lead responsibility for the Zeta platform and therefore the Camaro, has tested at the famed German track. As a result of that learning curve, the best unofficial lap times we've been able to obtain from observers on the scene are around the 9-minute mark — certainly well off the blistering pace set by the Corvette ZR1 at 7:40 and the Nissan GT-R Spec V, which ran an unofficial 7:25.
ksquarex 3 years ago
The base gtr model did a 7:29
The1Spot 3 years ago
Really now? Your way the fuck behind. Go back to sleep.
TEFLONTHADON 3 years ago
yukiotakata if you had any sense about these lap tests at all you would surely realize that you CANNOT compare car performances because lap time are measured under different levels of scrutiny, conditions, track lengths, drivers and preparation time. The Bugatti Veyron also clocked a 7:40. There's no way in hell that a G-TR can realistically beat the Veyron considering how much its completely dwarfed in the power, acceleration and top speed departments.
NUMBA1PROSPECT 3 years ago
The Nürburgring test is significant because this is the first time Holden, which has lead responsibility for the Zeta platform and therefore the Camaro, has tested at the famed German track. As a result of that learning curve, the best unofficial lap times we've been able to obtain from observers on the scene are around the 9-minute mark — certainly well off the blistering pace set by the Corvette ZR1 at 7:40 and the Nissan GT-R Spec V, which ran an unofficial 7:25.
ksquarex 3 years ago
Sorry for the slow answer.
The Veyron is more of a cruiser then a gt or a sport car,yes it haves 1001 bhp,is it haves awd BUT the Veyron cant turn CORNERS sharp as a gtr or even a z06 AND IT CANT PUT ALL THAT POWER DOWN TO THE ROAD WHEN THE TRACK IS FULL OF ONDULATIONS AND ACLIVES AND DECLIVES,basicly the MOTIVE why the factorys chouse to test their sport machines on the nurburgring .believe me.AND CONGRATS FOR GM 7,26 FAST CAR.
yukiotakata 3 years ago
oh and, any one know if GM plans to tune or revise this. If so i fill sorry for that guy who paid for a mil for a slower version then the production model, just becuase it was the first one made.
I expect this to run a 7:32xx or so officialy
Tokyotuner 3 years ago
He paid a million but the money went to charity, making anything over $100,000 tax deductible. Net cost is therefore the same as any other zr1.
iloveitdownthere 3 years ago
oh alright that makes a lot more since.
Tokyotuner 3 years ago
It was the first and with that unique blue paint job
shagy2k5 3 years ago