Beethoven symphony no. 10 in E flat major "Unfinished" (Part 1 of 2)

[joemamba5zz]

i loved it but sadly i disliked it

[sirshitsalot007]

@joemamba5zz If you loved it THEN WHY DID YOU DISLIKE IT!!!!!??????

[sENoZ93]

Beethoven died before he can finish this symphony..... :(

[Jacko9beethoven]

Very beautiful and how to get the score ..? Please advise..

[COLEVANY]

@Jacko9beethoven

Hello, thanks a lot for enjoying! I'm sorry, the only source I have to research is the internet, I didn't find the sheet music. I know a site - Musopen - where there is a little collection of sheet music to be downloaded for free, except Beethoven's 10th symph.!

[waterheartsong]

The 10th would have been Beethoven's greatest symphony along with the Eroica. This Wyn Morris version is a little too slow. For brisker tempi go for the Douglas Bostock version with the Czech Chamber Philharmonic Orchestra.

[COLEVANY]

@waterheartsong

Hello, I've listened to another recording here on Youtube, conducted by Walter Weller, it's faster, I liked it. Although I prefer the andante slower, it's like Karajan's style, my favorite conductor, faster and stronger! Thanks for the suggestion!

[pannathannap]

this beat is sticky

[DeltaSquadTrooper]

"It's just a symphony it should have been finished weeks ago"

[SpringInTheSchool]

Amazing....actually this is my first time to hear of his tenth symphony. Is there anyone who can recommend me a record of this?

[thebloads]

However these sketches could just be the rejected bits from his previous works.

[thebloads]

This sounds like a pastiche of alot of his previous works. I like it alot! Its a fitting epitaph to Beethoven's genius.

[yohannbiimu]

It's sad to think that we were denied the privilege of knowing for sure what this symphony was supposed to sound like, all because of the ignorance of early 19th century physicians.

[hopposohot]

too slowly. more fast,please. by Beethoven

[Marr2323]

very nice i lisend to this when i was 5 now 14 simply marveles i never stopped listing to this

[epluspitimesi]

WOW!! This is so beautiful! Beethoven was the greatest composer of all time.

[supersonic774]

If you ask me this was finish but lost or forgot for years and never found. this is a great symphony.

[EminemFan844]

So when will Beethoven finish this symphony?

[Marr2323]

@EminemFan844 hes dead mabey his blood will finshint n by blood i mean relativs

[skwanderer69]

i hear fragments of the pathetique sonata in here :)

[micheltennil]

Ce qui est merveilleux chez les grands compositeurs, c'est qu'ils ont la faculté de créer un Univers libre du temps qui passe, des deuils, des guerres... Les savants n'ont que la faculté d'entrevoir, de manière très fugace et rebelle, un Monde étrange et imparfait. Einstein déclarait "Les idées, vous savez, c'est très rare...". Pas chez Beethoven. Du côté de la Science le Génie. Du côté de la Musique, sa maitrise, comme si l'on avait la faculté de pouvoir s'en jouer librement...

[micheltennil]

Morris à la tête du London Philhamonic. Thème voisin de la Pathétique avec un développement merveilleux comme seul Beethoven en était capable. Probablement le plus grand homme que la Terre ait portée, avant Mozart ou Planck et Einstein, qui de leurs propres aveux, reconnaissaient dans les grands maîtres de la Musique le Génie à l'état pur (Planck aurait voulu être musicien, et Einstein se considérait comme un élève devant son Maître quand il abordait au violon les partitions de Mozart).

[Starbirdy9999]

Beethoven would've liked this completition. :)

[mrlouis1421]

I'm correcting myself. I meant the Pathétique" sonata.

[mrlouis1421]

"Variations on a Theme by Beethoven" might be a valid name for the first exposition of this work, the theme being the 2nd movement of the "Appassionata" sonata. Thank you Barry Cooper for having had the foresight to paste together The Master's "Last Will & Testamant".

[Agomongo1235]

th ebginning sounds like mozarts symphony no25 with symphony no 5 beethoven then wen the clarinet and the oboe com in sounds like mozarts clarinet concerto

[Agomongo1235]

PASS ON THE WORD

Beethoven=Pure genuis and godly music

Just Bieber=sucks p*nis and was made in china

[TheMagicBolt]

@Agomongo1235 Ha go post that in a bieber video and they will reply by saying how classical music is for boring and depressed people.

[Agomongo1235]

@TheMagicBolt i think i will lol

[felipealcaraz93]

it's terrible to say that brahms's first symphony is beethoven' s tenth, they are really different and, to me, Beethoven is better, my opinion

[TheEdUarDoO23]

muye bueno.. sinseramente si q relaja e.. muy bueno lo q ase beethoven... grandioso,,,

[arielrgh]

Hi Colevany,

This is Wyn Morris conducting the London Symphony Orchestra. I have the same recording which I got from the radio, LOL.

I know this is not properly Beethoven but I also love this piece =)

[CARLOSGONCALVES1954]

IT'S SO WONDERFUL. YES, IT'S BEETHOVEN !

[pobz100]

Sounds like Schummann's piano concerto in places..!

[OrpheusJRK]

The beginning i like it:D

[MozartJunior22]

6:10

Scared the crap outta me.

[codonauta]

It starts as a Beethoven composition, I have no doubt.

But after, looks like a Brahms symphonie. Due to the style, the sound of the strings.

I didn´t get very well the informations above. Did Brahms help to set the movement above from the Beethoven's sketches? Maybe because that it has the Brahms's style.

[magdavelas]

When I was listening to this, I also thought that this sounded like Brahms. Although I hardly have any formal training in music theory, you can hear that this music is all melodic! At the end of Beethoven's life, his orchestral music was rhythmic and, relative to his second period, more abstract: Symphony #9, the overture to "Consecration of the House", Missa Solemnis.... Although he inspired the Romantic era, during this time he was intensely studying the Baroque composers: Bach, Handel....

[TheLfwjo]

It seems to be that Beethoven is making a generalization of all his works while doing such sketches.

[lovesGenet]

In heaven there is a tenth symph and a complete 6th pianoconcerto.we are lucky to have the triple concerto.My GOD HE WAS SOOO GREAT AND LISZT IS TOO for playing the symphonies on da piano!!!

[sivertellingsen]

@trouvel It was Mozart, not Beethoven: the commissioned work was the Requiem in D minor, and the masked stranger turned out to be an eccentric nobleman (I forget his name) who wanted to pass of the work as his own. And despite the exposure it got through the film "Amadeus," the idea that Mozart was poisoned has today been completely disproven -- I think the prevailing theory is that he died of liver failure.

[NubNubNubbie]

Shame Beethoven didn't complete it

[jeffamarie]

I don't care what people say... Beethoven or not, this is what Beethoven wanted music to be. It's beautiful, they're his ideas, and it is glorious!

[COLEVANY]

@jeffamarie Yeah! I totally agree: for me, this sounds well enough like Beethoven's style! Very good work by Barry Cooper, a special admirer of Beethoven's works.

[zapholas]

@jeffamarie i agree with you...music...Beethoven style!

[wrathchild1988]

is this last beethoven's work?

[COLEVANY]

@wrathchild1988

As far as I know, his last substantial work was his string quartet no. 16, op. 135!

[askdhg]

@COLEVANY The last work is the alternative final for string quartet op. 130 instead of the "Große Fuge"!

[flibbertergibbet]

@COLEVANY Actually, it was the replacement finale for the Bb quartet op. 130. Peace amigo...

[DiesIrae676]

@wrathchild1988 Beethovens 10th is a series of sketches found, even though he worked mainly on string quartets at the end of his life there were discussions from beethoven about another symphony. Barry Cooper took these sketches and wrote what he thought it would sound like from the original sketches. Kinda like Sussmeyer did for Mozart's Requiem.

[danmicoli1234]

Sure. Cooper isnt attempting to create a Beethoven Symphony, he just happens to call it Beethoven's Symphony 10 in Eflat major. What he really needs to do here is drop the "Beethoven" and add His own name to it. Or better yet, he can call it , "Barry Cooper's Feeble Attempt To Mimic A Beethoven Symphony". And YES Beethoven will remain on a pedestal and Im not concerned about "forming an intimate relationship" with him because he is DEAD, much like your brain.

[BoggiDTerminator]

@danmicoli1234 No, he was only compiling what sketches he could to weave together an idea of what B was planning. All he could put together was the 1st movement, hardly enough for an entire symphony. I really don't see an egoistical drive to "mimic" B, it was more inquisitive and exploratory. When I say "form a relationship", I'm obviously not talking about the physical man but the music and the ideas, their "soul"; which is more important.

[jeffamarie]

@danmicoli1234 You really need to remove the mysticism you have for Beethoven's music from your thinking. There have been so many composers who have written great music - what is present in a Beethoven symphony is CERTAINLY present here without exception. I would like to hear what you have to say about what specifically makes this attempt 'feeble' - other than the fact that you seem SO fond of Beethoven as your hero, that you have difficulty accepting the skeleton of a tenth.

[danmicoli1234]

@jeffamarie There is not even enough to make a "skeleton". Bits and pieces, odds and ends. This is someones idea of an "experiment" that is nothing short of insanity. I have no doubt that if Beethoven were travel here through a time machine to see the example of "his work" he would pull out his hair screaming "WHO PUT MY NAME ON THIS SHIT?!!!!"

[jeffamarie]

@danmicoli1234 lol You idiot. The first thing Beethoven would do upon arriving here in a time-traveling machine is stare agape at the world we live in... and be amazed at the degree to which people have obsessed and admired his music - and then he would listen to this and wonder if he hadn't written it himself.

You think you know who Beethoven is - he's a human being, not a god. And Barry Cooper understands him and his music a hell of a lot more than you do.

[Timrath]

@jeffamarie Best Youtube comment I read in a long time. I'm 100% with you.

[danmicoli1234]

@jeffamarie Kiss My Ass

[danmicoli1234]

"hypothectical" is another word for SHIT. Please do not blaspheme the master's name with it. Dreamers of a 10th symphony need to get a grip on reality. There is no 10th and never will be (sketches notwithstanding).

[BoggiDTerminator]

@danmicoli1234 No it's not. And I don't believe Cooper attempted by any means to create another symphony of B's How could he? He could only make an estimate of the first movement. Personally, I think this movement is very beautiful and on par with his completed symphonies. There's nothing wrong with tinkering or imagining. Don't you realize that putting composers on godly pedestals is what they DON'T WANT. It makes them more distant and stops you from forming an intimate relationship with them.

[Joseph3044]

@danmicoli1234 The mistake here is probably calling this Beethoven's 10th Symphony. There is no proof that these sketches, composed by Beethoven, were ever intended to be part of a symphony. On the other hand there is a consensus that he DID intend to compose a 10th Symphony. There are many references to it in his correspondence. He died before he could do this, unfortunately, but maybe some of these sketches were part of his idea for a 10th. We'll never know.

[Alleeexoscm]

I agree also, Cooper did a good job, but certainly not Beethoven.

Aluna once read that these fragments are more similar to the intermediate era to the late works, as the very Ninth Symphony.

It is probably a reflection of the weight that their works involve more powerful, as the Fifth Symphony.

Ojala that Beethoven had made more progress or completed, but no.

In any case, I'm sure would have been another great symphony ...

[Mahlercougar]

I do agree with you. I do think that this work does sound Beethoven -like in certain sections. I think the "unbeethoven like sections" would be Coopers attempt to *glue* together the fragments and try to put together a cohesive fabric. Just like the controversial 10th Symphony of Mahler(which he indeed did sketch to the end - but we all know that Mahler would have made many more corrections before he passed)

I like to think of this work as a "Collaboration work" between Beethoven and Cooper.

[ilorts]

The Andante remind me to the theme of the famous 2nd movement of Pathetique sonata, and I think it has Beethoven's style more than the Allegro part. Thanks for the effort to develop those sketches into an orchestral version.

[DeutschlandRocks]

Thank you so much for uploading a such rarity! It breaths that so intimate and so peaceful spirit of his last string quartets!

Many thanks also for your lovely comment to my Mahler-vid!

[KnottPatriot]

What wonders we would have heard if he could lived longer to write the 10th and more.

[ulimaino]

I think the beggining of the tenth Symphony has an air of the fifth. And the wind's first part is very similar to the "Pathetic" piano sonata.

[COLEVANY]

And some details of the music also seen to be inspired on his 9th!

[PianoRamin]

This performance is by London Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Wyn Morris

[usjonge]

Excellent awesome beautiful!

Beethoven as master.

Jay.