Apart from any lost lives whether out of necessity or otherwise, the sad truth about America's perpetual state of Manifest Destiny is that we somehow have done the world a favor or that we owe a debt of gratitude and heroic recognition to anyone who does to others exactly what we all prefer not to be done to ourselves. No. There is nothing heroic about the military's destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with nuclear weapons.
It was war. We were firebombing cities and destroying their ability to wage war with all means we had. They were warned and would not surrender. The alternative was a vastly larger loss of life on both sides. and Frostedflake101 has it exactly right.
He was my neighbor in Clear Lake City, Texas. He was a good man and it was clear the bombing haunted him. I was a childhood friend with all three of his children - Pat, Kermit and Lisa. The bombing impacted them as well. You have to remember the context- he was a very young man. He was told the Japanese were the enemy and being a soldier he did his job. It is so easy to sit back and pass judgment on others.
That is My father Lt. Col Kermit Beahan, He's not gloating it is relief, his crew defied the odds in a mission plagued with problems to deliver a bomb that stopped a land invasion of Japan. Anyone around the age of 45 most likely would not be here because your direct male relatives would have been killed in the invasion so do your homework before you espose to know what he was thinking or the general relief of ending a horrific war
Had we not dropped the two bombs, we would have invaded the Japanese main land. It was estimated that 3 million people would have died as a result. The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki mercifully brought to an end, the brutal WW II. It does not take a rocket scientist to-figure out which method saved more lives.
Some of you owe your life to him; if it weren’t for the second atomic bomb being dropped Japan wouldn't have surrendered to the U.S. so those of you who haven’t fought for anything a day in your pathetic life should really reconsider what you said. Like it or not he was a war hero who fought for your life, obviously it was a waste because you arrogant unappreciative fucks aren’t grateful for what he did for you.
@martinbeahan but can you really say it was wrong, it did kill 70,000 which is wrong in its self but for a look at the bigger picture had the war not ended then the soviets would of taken Japan and there would have been a much more dangerous cold war, which could of had much worse consequences
That airman should not have been bragging about that. Japan was not without its own atrocities, however. Google "unit 731". Some of the most horrific unspeakable war cimes I have ever read about.
@southparkfan2717 Hilarious! Japan was already defeated; Eisenhower also confirmed it; saying that the dropping of the A-Bomb was unforgivable. Furthermore; Japan had been asking for peace three months before the A-bomb ever dropped. Gotta love those History books of yours!
@southparkfan2717 Resorting to name calling is the most inglorious way of admitting that you've lost the argument. Though, this is not even up for debate; it's beyond contestation; Japan was already defeated, USA dropped it just to demonstrate its power and test the bomb on human beings.
@THELINDGRENN We dropped it because the war was not over. Japan refused to surrender because they were bound by the Bushido (the way of the Samurai) death in battle was the most glorious thing they could achieve in life. If we invaded casualties would have been in the tens of millions. They had 3 million elite troops ready, they were dusting off muzzle loading rifles for civilians, they were training girls to charge with spears. Sure we shoved Hitlers head up his ass, but the war was not over.
@southparkfan2717 Are you unable to read? USA ignored Japan's request for peace; thus they shut off all communications with Japan. Thus Japan asked to surrender to the Soviet Union, but was again ignored. They asked to surrender three months before USA dropped the A-Bomb, again, you can easily look up this by yourself. The war was already over, USA had complete air-control, all of Japan was starving: As Eisenhower said: Japan was already defeated, an invasion was superfluous.
@THELINDGRENN Eisenhower had no say in the Pacific. It was MacArthur and Nimitz and they knew damn well the war was not over. Every surrender request we sent to Japan the Japanese dismissed. Every request Japan made to surrender was full of terms and not even a real surrender; The Imperial Government will stay in power, the Japanese Army will oversee its own disarmament. That's not a surrender that's a "put the war on hold until we can rebuild our military."
Apart from any lost lives whether out of necessity or otherwise, the sad truth about America's perpetual state of Manifest Destiny is that we somehow have done the world a favor or that we owe a debt of gratitude and heroic recognition to anyone who does to others exactly what we all prefer not to be done to ourselves. No. There is nothing heroic about the military's destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with nuclear weapons.
ozufonet 5 months ago
It was war. We were firebombing cities and destroying their ability to wage war with all means we had. They were warned and would not surrender. The alternative was a vastly larger loss of life on both sides. and Frostedflake101 has it exactly right.
basilhoyl 8 months ago
He was my neighbor in Clear Lake City, Texas. He was a good man and it was clear the bombing haunted him. I was a childhood friend with all three of his children - Pat, Kermit and Lisa. The bombing impacted them as well. You have to remember the context- he was a very young man. He was told the Japanese were the enemy and being a soldier he did his job. It is so easy to sit back and pass judgment on others.
catcherinthewheat 8 months ago
That is My father Lt. Col Kermit Beahan, He's not gloating it is relief, his crew defied the odds in a mission plagued with problems to deliver a bomb that stopped a land invasion of Japan. Anyone around the age of 45 most likely would not be here because your direct male relatives would have been killed in the invasion so do your homework before you espose to know what he was thinking or the general relief of ending a horrific war
frostedflake101 11 months ago
Had we not dropped the two bombs, we would have invaded the Japanese main land. It was estimated that 3 million people would have died as a result. The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki mercifully brought to an end, the brutal WW II. It does not take a rocket scientist to-figure out which method saved more lives.
ILLYankey 1 year ago 3
Some of you owe your life to him; if it weren’t for the second atomic bomb being dropped Japan wouldn't have surrendered to the U.S. so those of you who haven’t fought for anything a day in your pathetic life should really reconsider what you said. Like it or not he was a war hero who fought for your life, obviously it was a waste because you arrogant unappreciative fucks aren’t grateful for what he did for you.
frostedflake101 1 year ago 7
Let's get to built atom unbiult humans !!! WE R AMERICA :) !!! U ALL SUCK LIKE A BANKOCK BITCH !
KingHefner 1 year ago
and no im not saying it was right!
martinbeahan 1 year ago
@martinbeahan but can you really say it was wrong, it did kill 70,000 which is wrong in its self but for a look at the bigger picture had the war not ended then the soviets would of taken Japan and there would have been a much more dangerous cold war, which could of had much worse consequences
willfsrxccomp 1 year ago
@willfsrxccomp very true
martinbeahan 1 year ago
if u dont like it dont watch it (to everyone with negative comments).
martinbeahan 1 year ago
I hate U.S.A. Eternally
farenopusizu 1 year ago
That airman should not have been bragging about that. Japan was not without its own atrocities, however. Google "unit 731". Some of the most horrific unspeakable war cimes I have ever read about.
Pendragon1717 2 years ago
Amazing that the puppet Japanese government still tolerates US troops in its nation. Shame on you.
vdvsoldat 2 years ago
Fucking Bitch.....
XxXZavierXxX 2 years ago
look up "atomic moog 2000"
his voice was used in the song
ParkourReble 2 years ago
See? And the allies are viewed as the "good guys".
What a bad joke!
THELINDGRENN 2 years ago
"thrill", you just exterminated 80.000 people, disgusting.
THELINDGRENN 2 years ago
@THELINDGRENN Better then the 30 million that would have been killed had Operation Downfall proceeded.
southparkfan2717 2 months ago
@southparkfan2717 Hilarious! Japan was already defeated; Eisenhower also confirmed it; saying that the dropping of the A-Bomb was unforgivable. Furthermore; Japan had been asking for peace three months before the A-bomb ever dropped. Gotta love those History books of yours!
THELINDGRENN 2 months ago
@THELINDGRENN I'll debate this with somebody worth debating. Not a Coward Nazi Piece of Shit yourself.
southparkfan2717 2 months ago
@southparkfan2717 Resorting to name calling is the most inglorious way of admitting that you've lost the argument. Though, this is not even up for debate; it's beyond contestation; Japan was already defeated, USA dropped it just to demonstrate its power and test the bomb on human beings.
THELINDGRENN 2 months ago
@THELINDGRENN We dropped it because the war was not over. Japan refused to surrender because they were bound by the Bushido (the way of the Samurai) death in battle was the most glorious thing they could achieve in life. If we invaded casualties would have been in the tens of millions. They had 3 million elite troops ready, they were dusting off muzzle loading rifles for civilians, they were training girls to charge with spears. Sure we shoved Hitlers head up his ass, but the war was not over.
southparkfan2717 2 months ago
@southparkfan2717 Are you unable to read? USA ignored Japan's request for peace; thus they shut off all communications with Japan. Thus Japan asked to surrender to the Soviet Union, but was again ignored. They asked to surrender three months before USA dropped the A-Bomb, again, you can easily look up this by yourself. The war was already over, USA had complete air-control, all of Japan was starving: As Eisenhower said: Japan was already defeated, an invasion was superfluous.
THELINDGRENN 2 months ago
@THELINDGRENN Eisenhower had no say in the Pacific. It was MacArthur and Nimitz and they knew damn well the war was not over. Every surrender request we sent to Japan the Japanese dismissed. Every request Japan made to surrender was full of terms and not even a real surrender; The Imperial Government will stay in power, the Japanese Army will oversee its own disarmament. That's not a surrender that's a "put the war on hold until we can rebuild our military."
southparkfan2717 2 months ago
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