Well said. Your pain was mine. I wasn't happy until I went home to Indian Country, married my husband- and started living.Then and only then did I know true love, family and yes, happiness. And you are right it's a sense of privilege and entitlement, as well as cash, that makes adoptions take place. I'm sure your adoption, as was mine, was all about the people who adopted you It's not. You are your own person, and entitled to your own life. May you find what you are looking for.
I was adopted into a dutch family,that often spoke dutch,and as time goes on i developed anger at that because that mirrored to me over over that I am not dutch,i am something else.Adoption is wrong-despite what people say-'youre parents must have loved you enough to take you in...Im not grateful,its more like I felt like some kinda degenerate...thank you for letting me voice my opinion about adoption.
Totally agree with your sardonic thoughts :) I find it so ridiculous that adopters are viewed as Such.Good.People and the adoptee, when not performing at optimum gratitude will always be viewed as having isshews.
BTW, good lord, did that prosepctive adopter call you bitter?! Now that's a fair sense of entitlement. Entitlement to have someone else's child call her Mom to assuage the unrealised goal of motherhood; and entitlement to label your intelligent realism as bitterness.
@kurtanddeb4ever I don't believe in god, and thus don't believe in anything god may or may not want. My birth mother found me years ago. The people who don't want you to find your birth mother are the people who want to keep the billion-dollar adoption industry booming. If they shut you up, they can sell more babies and make more money. Never stop looking, ever.
A child is statistically 6X more likely to die at the hands of a non-biologically related caregiver than in the care of a biologically related caregiver. Adoption is wrong.
Perhaps you didn't need an adoptive family, you already had family. But adoption takes place due to different circumstances, not just your own personal experience. I think it's important for people watching this video to understand that.
I definitely agree with you on several points, children should not have to feel "grateful" to have adoptive parents, it's ridiculous that some people expect that. Parents should be grateful. And no individual or couple is ever entitled to a baby or a child.
My younger siblings were adopted. They have special needs and lived their entire lives in an orphanage in an Eastern European country. The youngest is 4 and he weighs less than the average 12 month old baby, due to starvation and neglect. If they had not been adopted by my parents, they would have been institutionalized in 1-3 years, as is the custom in their home country. For special needs children, the survival rate in an institution is very low. That was their harsh reality.
@angelkissedredhead What about the harsh realities that American children face? Why do we value more the lives of children overseas rather than the lives of American children who can make a difference in this country. Americans need to stop trying to fix the problems of the world. If we let overseas adoptions continue to take place, there will not be a country left for anyone.
Hi. I want to thank you for your honesty. Me and my husbant were just proved to adopt and it is an important reminderthat I am doing it for me.
I don't allow people to tell me that I am doing something great. I just want to be a mother. I hope that when I will get to it my child will be honest with me as you are. Still, i would llike my child to realy feel I'm his mom.
Do you have any tips how to make an adoptee to feel less bitter then you/
@liorzt If you can find some way to tell a child that their mother did not keep them in such a way that their life is not ripped apart, then sure, you might be able to be successful.
OMG this scares me so much i am a birthmother that placed my son up for adoption i was 16 and alone with saying this from my heart and sould i wish i had my baby everyday i love him i didnt give him away bc i didnt want him i did bc i was young i had alot of pressure did you ever met your birthmother and know how she feels please email me fallingangle1983@yahoo.com my name is anna
This is so true. It's nice to know that someone out there knows how I feel. I've always felt like there was a huge void inside of me and I have major separation issues. My adopted Mom was amazing and loved being a Mom, but as a child I was always afraid of being left alone. Now as an adult I struggle with fear and very low self esteem. I am grateful and realize that I've had a pretty good life, but the void will always be there.
Thank you for making this video. I was in a maternity home from '82-'83. And adoptive parents do act as if they were entitled to a child. I kept my baby, but it was a hard won fight. Your mother did want you. Your mother did not abandon you.She was brow beaten till she gave in. They wear a mother down by making the mothers feel like a piece of shit. I know. They have a way of making a mother feel guilty for her love for her baby.They use it against her.
Thank you for sharing your video. It is very painful for me to see but has confirmed some deep thoughts I've had. When I was fifteen I had my daughter who is now fourteen. My parents refused help for me to raise her on my own so I went through an adoption agency and chose her family and met with them. I have tons of pictures of her and letters from the adoptive family and I write all the time. Whether they tell her or not I'm not sure, but I hope and pray she will want to see me.
God didnt give some people children for a reason. My adopted parents werent even my friends. Every year for Christmas I told them I wanted to go home. They were very sick and twisted individuals. I was told that none of the adoption agencies would give them a real kid so they had to take me instead.
I always thought that I would adopt a child some time even if I had my own kids. Not so that I can be put on a high hill and say "I SAVED YOU!!" And now I am terrified that I will fall in love with that child and that child will grow up and reject me.
@kirahopes How selfish you sound. "I'm afraid that child will grow up and reject me." Not, "Regardless of how my child feels about me, I hope she has a wonderful, stable life and is happy."
You just said your mom wanted you, then you said she didn't. I feel entitled to children starting with this blaring maternal feeling I have had since childhood. Also, I plan to adopt whether or not I have biological children, so MY children are definitely not a second choice.
@VinnyCons We all have that blaring feeling to have children. That's why it's called a 'maternal' instinct. Unfortunately, instinct ≠ entitlement. As for your plan to adopt, well, la di da. Call me when they drop redemption on you like a piano, and record the noise it makes when it smashes in your hands.
God bless you sweetheart ! I really heard your frustration and your pain in this video. I was adopted too and I feel the same way. I never felt a part of my adopted family even though I was adopted as an infant (back in 1961). My adopted father was a predator. I felt such a sense of abandonment and rejection. I found my real parents in 1978 (I was 16) and that really helped me heal. If you haven't found your real parents then I strongly encourage you to do so. Peace be with you, sister
Every child deserves a family and I don't think its right to have a child think that they have to be "grateful" for having a family. Everybody else who was not given up for adoption does not have to be grateful. And the truth is I think that in reality people will not understand because they haven't been threw what we as adoptees have been threw... and I don't necessarily think its there fault. They just haven't experienced growing up without there biological parents.
oh & another thing...when i first thought adoption was the right thing to do..it wasnt my decision...the social worker at the agency told me i was a saint for what im considering for my baby...the way it came out sounded so fake that i decided to research the process i honestly didnt know anything about it until i read for myself...like ppl said abortion is nothing (lies!) adoption hurts too! My baby isnt a CURE to their infertility or desire! theres a reason God doesnt want them to be parents..
hey...just wanted to say thank u for posting this video! my mom wants me to put my baby up for adoption cause she thinks a child needs 2 parents( yeah shes an old school wacko)showed her ur video & shut her up for a bit! my bf left me when i didnt have an abortion..so i decided to leave everyone behind,keep my baby start a new family...ur video just proves to me that im doing the right thing...i dont want my baby to go thru this & i feel so strong about my decision! THANK YOU!
@akship1 I was adopted, and my parents fought every day of my life from when I was 3 until my "dad" finally left, when I was almost 10. My adoptive father was never a real "dad" to me, and I haven't spoken to him in 6.5 years.
If your mom wants her grandchild to have a loving home, she should help you make a good life for your child. Placing a baby for adoption is NOT a guarantee that they will have the perfect life. But if YOU keep your baby, you know that your child will be loved.
I feel so sorry for you. It sucks that you don't feel the people who raised are your parents. Why were you adopted? If your mother abandoned you and your parents didn't adopted you then were would you be? Have you ever met your bio mother? Have you tired to contact her? I think adoption is great for most children because it gives them a chance at life a good one with parents that love them and acutely want them. maybe you should talk to someone.
My adoptive mother told me that none of the agencies would not let them have a real kid so we had to take you instead. They even got a receipt for $6350. in 1959.. My (FATHER) Was an abusive drunk. The worst part I remembered my parents and sister. I also remember the day they took me away from my Grandmother. It was the last day I felt Safe growing up. I still miss them every day.
Your comment "not feel so entitled, buy a dog or something," makes it seem like u r angry w/ your adoptive parents 4 adopting u. I know my daughter, who is adopted, once told me, "It wasn't very nice of u 2 take me away." Her harsh reality is her dad died, her mom legally is not allowed 2 see her, she was my 2nd cousin &the family decided together (I was not involved) 2ask us if we would be willing 2 take her. She loves us, we love her, but what r things I could do 2 make her not be angry w/ us?
i am adopted and although i dont remember my mum and dad i remember the years of fostor care i went through and cant express just how glad and happy i am that my adopted mum and dad chose me and my sister. I understand what your saying though.
thank you for the video - my daughter is a half-orphan an i have heard words very often that sounded quite similar. it is a painful way to yourself. best wishes from germany.
this video really upset me im adopted aswell there are reasons ive been brought up by adoptive parents they are my family have u never heard the phrase it takes alot to be a mum but anyone can be a mother yes they may have wanted a child and for what ever reason they didnt choose or couldnt have tehir own but at the end of the day they raised you and loved you,
I never said anything to the contrary. What I'm simply saying is that regardless of circumstance or outcome, I am purely not grateful that I was adopted or grateful to my parents for adopting me.
@chicagociccone That is your right to feel that way. I was not adopted, so I cannot empathize, but the entire idea of adoption is based on loss. So, why should you be grateful? If everything went the way people would want their lives to go, you would have never been put up for adoption in the first place. I think it's wrong for anyone(another adoptee or not) to try and make you feel wrong for feeling the way you feel. The way I see it, you're completed justified...
@chicagociccone I am an adoptee and had really great parents. Mind you I did not say perfect for there are no such things. I found my Bm's family...turns out she was an unstable person with mental disorders. I finally caught up with her 4 months after she died...never got to meet her. My BF died when I was 4. Never got to meet him...BUT I have 2 sisters from my mother and 3 brother's from my dad. Not to mention aunts and uncles and cousins and a grandma.
@chicagociccone I encourage you to search and get your answes. BUT please be aware that you may NOT like everything that you find. You must keep an open mind and try to prepare yourself for some very ugly truths and be ready to deal with them. I did not find "normal" situations and behaviors, yet I have made my peace with it. For me knowing is much better thatn not knowing. I hope you will find peace in your heart. if you'd like to send me a message, maybe I can help you in your search
And to add - I think you need a warrior's courage to struggle past it. Because nobody will really understand. You have to do it alone - nobody will really know what you are struggling with completely alone. That's real bravery.
So it's great you have arrived where you now are, and I wish you courage - I am one of the few who appreciates what it will take for you to get there.
Be proud of your strength and you will prevail - there's a better place on the other side of it. When you are ready.
You're right, parents can be vain jackasses who think they are just adding you on as a lifestyle accessory.
And birth parents can be self-absorbed idiots who make the worst decisions with terrible timing before they give up on you.
But you know why?
They are very flawed people, not mature, evolved adults.
I know having no biological 'belonging' just adds to the painful confusion of being badly placed. My family were like aliens to me, and it was horribly isolating.
This video scared me! I have a biological child and I adopted my second child. I wanted to a child a safe secured happy loving family. Is that wrong? I am so scared after seeing you. Will my daughter go through similar pain?
Nobody can say for sure what emotions your child is going to experience, though my personal inclination is to say that on some level, you child will likely experience similar emotions. I was to make it very clear though that I don't hate or even dislike my adoptive parents. I love them very much. However, I believe nothing is completely altruistic.
That said, it's been my personal experience that maintaining a dialogue with your child about about his/her emotions, letting your child be open and honest, and expressing that you will always love them even if they express emotions that are difficult for you to understand is hugely important. There are several authors who write openly and eloquently on the topic of adoptee pain, and you might consider books by Betty Jean Lifton as a starting point
@chicagociccone I never thought it was altruistic. My sole reason for adopting is to have a family of my own. We never tried fertility treatments, because the moment we thought we were going to, my daughter popped up in my life after her father died. We decided then that this was the option we would choose. I've been hearing a lot about adoptive kids struggling. I know growing up I always tried finding how I looked like my family. I have red hair, my parents are brunette.
@chicagociccone Countless times I was told, "Oh you must look like your father," When meeting my mom's friends, and "Oh you must look like your mother." when meeting my dad's friends. I'm not saying I understand, because I don't; but I do understand why that connection is so important. I know there will always be a part of my children who want to be with someone else. Despite that, I am still choosing to adopt, I just hope my children don't resent me for that.
I am adopted and really does hurt, my adoptive parents say that i am there child cause they raised me and they get MAD when I talk about my birth mom trying to get information on her! Because I have a right to think about her she gave me breathing life!
I completely understand how you feel. However I have an open adoption with my birth mother and her family. I consider her parents my grandparents and her two kids that were born after me my brothers. I have never met my birth father. He didn't want to deal with me. My adoptive mom has only sent letters to his mother and we send them a christmas card every year. I want to contact him and hopefully meet his family but I am scared to death that they will reject me yet again.
im sorry girl :( I understand what you say when you mention that your parents are not like you etc cause it does count. In my case i have no idea if it is because of luck or what but my dad and i are very very similar, very sentimental and all. Me and my mom not that much she s like very very organized and extremely feminine but im not that organized and classy sometimes!!! and believe i do not look like them at all, my dad is black and my mom has tanned skin oh but i love them so muchhh
My husband was adopted and has never had a desire to find his birth parents. Adoption can be an amazing thing. His parents are the most wonderful people I could ask for as in-laws and not because they have money because they doen't but they have a self-less love for their kids and grandkids. They have taught me what it means to be a good parent. I hope one day to adopt so that I can give a loving family to a child that has no one.
French-Canadian / Chinese boy adopted by Jamaican/Chinese family. Shipped to Jamaica from Canada, then back, adopted mother dies when he's 18, father cheats on entire family, has felt completely alone and different from adoptive family entire life, suicidal for almost 10 years, that's my story. But I found a way to grieve all i've lost, accept the beauty that this version of life offers (and there's LOTS of it), and create my own life. I hope you keep fighting and find a way to peace.
I am not, by all means, trying to ignore your feelings. I just hope she knows that I did not want to do what I did. It was a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I do not feel that I am a good mother for giving her up. Especially since I got married and pregnant (yet again) six months later. Time will not heal these wounds. Nothing can. I should have found some way to keep her because I cannot let her go.
and I knew foster care was not an option being as it is harder to get your children back after doing so. I have an open adoption. That way, if it is too emotionally hard for me to see her, I don't have to, but if I can't get enough of her, I can see her whenever I want. The adoptive parents no longer send me pictures or letters to tell me how she is doing. My heart aches to know. I cannot imagine the loss you are feeling, but I hope my daughter does not feel the same way.
but wanted to keep my daughter. My original plan (while I was still pregnant) was to keep her. Eventually, I decided to give her up at birth. But when I held her in my arms, I knew there was no way I could let her go. When she was three and a half months old, I decided that I was tired of relying in everyone else to help me in raising my daughter. I did not and still do not believe in adoption, so yes, it makes me a hypocrite, but I had to do something...
I gave up my daughter a year ago. It was BY FAR the hardest thing I've ever had to do. I gave her for reasons of my own. However, my mom threatened to never speak to me or see me ever again. She was a huge impact on my life, and I figured I could have other children, which I do. I regret my decision everyday. I regret sleeping with her "father", but I don't regret having her. When I gave her up, I didn't have a job, didn't (and couldn't) afford daycare to GET a job, hadn't graduated high school.
wow...i always thought that of friends that were adopted; that it couldn't ever feel just like your biological parents. how on earth do you resolve that in your self?
I feel exactly the same, people really dont understand an adoptees experience, we owe nobody anything, its like if we address are pain people try to shut us down "its not a big issue" "you should be grateful" "you would of been better of being adopted" I know from my experience I would not of been "better of" with adoption nobody wins, its a triad of pain and heartache
Hey hun, I understand kinda how you must feel, I know you realy have allot of pain in your heart towards your birth and adoptive parents. I am a birth mom, right now I have to get ready for work, I work nights as a security officer. But I would like to talk with you more later about this. Just know you are loved and cared about . Check out my adoption vids and my pro and let me know what you think ok. Take care
Your birth mom GAVE you up, thats why ur adopted. Im not saying that you should be grateful to be adopted, because I'm not. But your parents gave you a life that your bmom couldn't. And if she could have given you that same life, why didn't she keep you?
Birth parents give up children for them to have a better life, but that is no guarantee. I was given up so there would be two parents, but the adopted parents divorced quickly leaving me in a single parent home with a mother who relied on "her mother" to raise me.
I have been doing a lot of research, and am cancelling the open adoption planned for my unborn daughter. I am grateful to the victims of this adoption shit so that my daughter and I will not be torn apart because I feel indebted to an infertile couple, or that I couldnt provide as well as they could.
Thank you for your comment. I wish both of you all of the very best, and hope that you know there are millions out there who support women who have the courage to do what is best for both of you. Much, much love.
Good for you! It's tragic that more moms don't get the facts before they surrender their babies. They're brainwashed by the child predators and drink their kool-aid. They and their children end up in adoption hell.
I'm as sickened when adoptees are told to be grateful as when mothers are told, "Be glad you did the best thing for your baby." How in HELL do they know? It's also cruelly insulting. Many babies are adopted by drunks and abusers. Our anger is quite justified.
you are awesome. i too am an adoptee. you say exactly what I think. I struggle daily with putting on the fake "well-adjusted/sooo grateful adoptee" mask. when I do want to say stuff like you said in the video, people stop listening and scoff at what I say. It's tough to suffer in silence but it's nice to see that others are ungrateful too.
My son is posting to you privately, it's not me. He is signed on to my computer I don't know how to change it so it goes to his computer. If your "real" mother didn't want you and you were "stillborn" how could your adoptive parents have snatched you? You were obviously put up for adoption right? I am trying to understand. I read about Primal wounds and have had several signs, you don't have to be adopted. Maybe just not nurtured appropriately. There are a few skeptics out there, more research.
I'm sorry, Truly I am, I didn't mean to sound ignorant. My point was that that a real family can be pretty awful, you just never know. For years I had been trying to buy my moms love. The "big mistake" comment was about me for actually thinking I could buy her love. I am actually against adoption for this reason. That one will not feel good enough or loved or a true part of the family. Even though I was Bio I couldn't have felt more different. I didn't look like my two sisters. Mona
Wow!!! I'm not adopted but Ive felt adopted and when I was younger always said I was adopted because my mom didn't love me like she did my two sisters. News-Flash real family can suck too. My family treats me horribly. We took my mom to Florida on vacation with us (my way to try and buy her love)BIG mistake.
Good for you dear! I've blogged about this stuff before, but I don't know if I'd have the courage to put myself out there like you did.
I am so sick of people telling me how I should feel. Even though many adoptees have a wide range of feelings about their experience, they all have a right to those feelings. You continue to say anything you're feeling at the moment and shame on those who judge you for it.
You have my support!! No one is MORE manipulated than the adopted child. I am anti-adoption. I belive that in some cases where children are in FOSTER care or are ORPHANS need parents, NOT the childless couple with fertility issues coercing young mothers into giving up their babies. YOU ARE SO RIGHT!! THIS VIDEO IS GOING IN MY FAVORITES!!
HUGE kudos! Seriously, this was an awesome video reply to an awesome original video. I'm so happy that we're starting to speak up.
Freakin brilliant. It's refreshing to see people like you and AdopteeWarrior (Gersh) speaking so honestly and openly... and being so genuine... on this topic.
I hear the bitterness & anger. But I also hear you contradict yourself. You said that your mother 'wanted you' then later in the video, you claim to be 'still born' because your mother didn't want you. There is one that adopts us all & you are in need of His love & mercy. My mother & 3 cousins were adopted. I would like to meet my grandparents someday, don't get me wrong, but bitterness made my mother an alcoholic. Become an adopted child of God. Stop being so spiteful and selfish. Peace.
I think it's so interesting that when people talk about themselves, they are labeled as 'selfish'. It happens. It's a video that discusses something personal, so of course I'm going to talk about myself. And I have a newsflash for you: It wasn't bitterness that made your mother an alcoholic, it was probably a genetic predisposition combined with childhood abuse.
And because I don't want to be spiteful, I won't touch on your ridiculous comments about god and jesus.
NOWFREEINCHRISTALONE, you are a hypocritical jerk! How can you call yourself a Christian after calling her selfish? If there is anyone who has bitterness its YOU. Just try to stand in ANY adoptee's shoes just ONCE. LEAVE HER ALONE!! She was the child that had NO CHOICE in where her life was going. How is that fair for you to point fingers and judge. Take the peg out of your own eye!
We are all born with no choice. None of us chooses to be born and none of us chooses our parents. My mom let a neighbor take advantage of me, I was 11, he was 20 (I think). I asked her if she was going to do anything about it. She said she didn't want to upset the neighbors. Nice huh? I don't expect this to make it up on your site. My other comment/apology/explanation didn't make it. It only shows me I made a valid point with you and you didn't like it. You want your point represented not others
its nice to know that other people feel the same way i do... I was adopted at birth... and even though i love my parents... im not grateful... i never was... and i never will be.... i am 20 years old now... and i just found my birthmom 5months ago and i have 5 other brothers and sisters... and i see my brothers and sisters like everyday and we all hang out and its amazing... its like i was never not there...
Way to go!!!!! that was awesome!! Thank you for your reply and putting some core, deep feelings on the web for everyone to see. ROCK ON!! I agree with so much of what you have said.
You are not ALONE sister!!!
golddread 1 month ago
Well said. Your pain was mine. I wasn't happy until I went home to Indian Country, married my husband- and started living.Then and only then did I know true love, family and yes, happiness. And you are right it's a sense of privilege and entitlement, as well as cash, that makes adoptions take place. I'm sure your adoption, as was mine, was all about the people who adopted you It's not. You are your own person, and entitled to your own life. May you find what you are looking for.
noellesuniverse 1 month ago
I was adopted into a dutch family,that often spoke dutch,and as time goes on i developed anger at that because that mirrored to me over over that I am not dutch,i am something else.Adoption is wrong-despite what people say-'youre parents must have loved you enough to take you in...Im not grateful,its more like I felt like some kinda degenerate...thank you for letting me voice my opinion about adoption.
arcturus915 3 months ago
Totally agree with your sardonic thoughts :) I find it so ridiculous that adopters are viewed as Such.Good.People and the adoptee, when not performing at optimum gratitude will always be viewed as having isshews.
BTW, good lord, did that prosepctive adopter call you bitter?! Now that's a fair sense of entitlement. Entitlement to have someone else's child call her Mom to assuage the unrealised goal of motherhood; and entitlement to label your intelligent realism as bitterness.
Take Care
Chessa27 9 months ago
@kurtanddeb4ever I don't believe in god, and thus don't believe in anything god may or may not want. My birth mother found me years ago. The people who don't want you to find your birth mother are the people who want to keep the billion-dollar adoption industry booming. If they shut you up, they can sell more babies and make more money. Never stop looking, ever.
chicagociccone 10 months ago
thank you so much for your reply I will remember your words.whishing you happiness built from the inner strength you have. Lior
liorzt 11 months ago
A child is statistically 6X more likely to die at the hands of a non-biologically related caregiver than in the care of a biologically related caregiver. Adoption is wrong.
patiencepoet 11 months ago
@patiencepoet I would appreciate this comment infinitely more if you could cite a source.
chicagociccone 11 months ago
Perhaps you didn't need an adoptive family, you already had family. But adoption takes place due to different circumstances, not just your own personal experience. I think it's important for people watching this video to understand that.
I definitely agree with you on several points, children should not have to feel "grateful" to have adoptive parents, it's ridiculous that some people expect that. Parents should be grateful. And no individual or couple is ever entitled to a baby or a child.
angelkissedredhead 1 year ago
My younger siblings were adopted. They have special needs and lived their entire lives in an orphanage in an Eastern European country. The youngest is 4 and he weighs less than the average 12 month old baby, due to starvation and neglect. If they had not been adopted by my parents, they would have been institutionalized in 1-3 years, as is the custom in their home country. For special needs children, the survival rate in an institution is very low. That was their harsh reality.
angelkissedredhead 1 year ago
@angelkissedredhead What about the harsh realities that American children face? Why do we value more the lives of children overseas rather than the lives of American children who can make a difference in this country. Americans need to stop trying to fix the problems of the world. If we let overseas adoptions continue to take place, there will not be a country left for anyone.
chicagociccone 11 months ago
Hi. I want to thank you for your honesty. Me and my husbant were just proved to adopt and it is an important reminderthat I am doing it for me.
I don't allow people to tell me that I am doing something great. I just want to be a mother. I hope that when I will get to it my child will be honest with me as you are. Still, i would llike my child to realy feel I'm his mom.
Do you have any tips how to make an adoptee to feel less bitter then you/
Thanks.Lior
liorzt 1 year ago
@liorzt If you can find some way to tell a child that their mother did not keep them in such a way that their life is not ripped apart, then sure, you might be able to be successful.
chicagociccone 11 months ago
OMG this scares me so much i am a birthmother that placed my son up for adoption i was 16 and alone with saying this from my heart and sould i wish i had my baby everyday i love him i didnt give him away bc i didnt want him i did bc i was young i had alot of pressure did you ever met your birthmother and know how she feels please email me fallingangle1983@yahoo.com my name is anna
123tessandchantalle 1 year ago
This is so true. It's nice to know that someone out there knows how I feel. I've always felt like there was a huge void inside of me and I have major separation issues. My adopted Mom was amazing and loved being a Mom, but as a child I was always afraid of being left alone. Now as an adult I struggle with fear and very low self esteem. I am grateful and realize that I've had a pretty good life, but the void will always be there.
curlyld 1 year ago
Thank you for making this video. I was in a maternity home from '82-'83. And adoptive parents do act as if they were entitled to a child. I kept my baby, but it was a hard won fight. Your mother did want you. Your mother did not abandon you.She was brow beaten till she gave in. They wear a mother down by making the mothers feel like a piece of shit. I know. They have a way of making a mother feel guilty for her love for her baby.They use it against her.
eyeswideopen1993 1 year ago
Thank you for sharing your video. It is very painful for me to see but has confirmed some deep thoughts I've had. When I was fifteen I had my daughter who is now fourteen. My parents refused help for me to raise her on my own so I went through an adoption agency and chose her family and met with them. I have tons of pictures of her and letters from the adoptive family and I write all the time. Whether they tell her or not I'm not sure, but I hope and pray she will want to see me.
MaLisa186 1 year ago
wow..thank god someone with the same attitude as me
userh6478 1 year ago
God didnt give some people children for a reason. My adopted parents werent even my friends. Every year for Christmas I told them I wanted to go home. They were very sick and twisted individuals. I was told that none of the adoption agencies would give them a real kid so they had to take me instead.
Msakaalbany 1 year ago
I always thought that I would adopt a child some time even if I had my own kids. Not so that I can be put on a high hill and say "I SAVED YOU!!" And now I am terrified that I will fall in love with that child and that child will grow up and reject me.
kirahopes 1 year ago
@kirahopes How selfish you sound. "I'm afraid that child will grow up and reject me." Not, "Regardless of how my child feels about me, I hope she has a wonderful, stable life and is happy."
I hope they never let you adopt.
chicagociccone 1 year ago
I am not adopted BUT I have adopted and everything you says makes perfect
sense to me. NO, adopted shouldn't be grateful. parents are the grateful ones!
I would rather have my child than one from my womb.
Afghanskmynde 1 year ago
You just said your mom wanted you, then you said she didn't. I feel entitled to children starting with this blaring maternal feeling I have had since childhood. Also, I plan to adopt whether or not I have biological children, so MY children are definitely not a second choice.
VinnyCons 1 year ago
@VinnyCons We all have that blaring feeling to have children. That's why it's called a 'maternal' instinct. Unfortunately, instinct ≠ entitlement. As for your plan to adopt, well, la di da. Call me when they drop redemption on you like a piano, and record the noise it makes when it smashes in your hands.
chicagociccone 1 year ago
God bless you sweetheart ! I really heard your frustration and your pain in this video. I was adopted too and I feel the same way. I never felt a part of my adopted family even though I was adopted as an infant (back in 1961). My adopted father was a predator. I felt such a sense of abandonment and rejection. I found my real parents in 1978 (I was 16) and that really helped me heal. If you haven't found your real parents then I strongly encourage you to do so. Peace be with you, sister
fairlightdawn112 1 year ago
Every child deserves a family and I don't think its right to have a child think that they have to be "grateful" for having a family. Everybody else who was not given up for adoption does not have to be grateful. And the truth is I think that in reality people will not understand because they haven't been threw what we as adoptees have been threw... and I don't necessarily think its there fault. They just haven't experienced growing up without there biological parents.
zelsgirl 1 year ago
oh & another thing...when i first thought adoption was the right thing to do..it wasnt my decision...the social worker at the agency told me i was a saint for what im considering for my baby...the way it came out sounded so fake that i decided to research the process i honestly didnt know anything about it until i read for myself...like ppl said abortion is nothing (lies!) adoption hurts too! My baby isnt a CURE to their infertility or desire! theres a reason God doesnt want them to be parents..
akship1 1 year ago
hey...just wanted to say thank u for posting this video! my mom wants me to put my baby up for adoption cause she thinks a child needs 2 parents( yeah shes an old school wacko)showed her ur video & shut her up for a bit! my bf left me when i didnt have an abortion..so i decided to leave everyone behind,keep my baby start a new family...ur video just proves to me that im doing the right thing...i dont want my baby to go thru this & i feel so strong about my decision! THANK YOU!
akship1 1 year ago
@akship1 I was adopted, and my parents fought every day of my life from when I was 3 until my "dad" finally left, when I was almost 10. My adoptive father was never a real "dad" to me, and I haven't spoken to him in 6.5 years.
If your mom wants her grandchild to have a loving home, she should help you make a good life for your child. Placing a baby for adoption is NOT a guarantee that they will have the perfect life. But if YOU keep your baby, you know that your child will be loved.
lifescholar 1 year ago
Honest! Homerun out of the park! It sounds like you are speaking directly from your heart.
God Bless you!
latitudeCheck 1 year ago
I really like your video and can relate to a lot you're talking about! Thanks for being so honest and sharing it with the world :)
ConnyWeirdWorld 1 year ago
lol adoption
Andypotent 1 year ago
I feel so sorry for you. It sucks that you don't feel the people who raised are your parents. Why were you adopted? If your mother abandoned you and your parents didn't adopted you then were would you be? Have you ever met your bio mother? Have you tired to contact her? I think adoption is great for most children because it gives them a chance at life a good one with parents that love them and acutely want them. maybe you should talk to someone.
SweetBajan42 1 year ago
My adoptive mother told me that none of the agencies would not let them have a real kid so we had to take you instead. They even got a receipt for $6350. in 1959.. My (FATHER) Was an abusive drunk. The worst part I remembered my parents and sister. I also remember the day they took me away from my Grandmother. It was the last day I felt Safe growing up. I still miss them every day.
akaalbany 1 year ago
Your comment "not feel so entitled, buy a dog or something," makes it seem like u r angry w/ your adoptive parents 4 adopting u. I know my daughter, who is adopted, once told me, "It wasn't very nice of u 2 take me away." Her harsh reality is her dad died, her mom legally is not allowed 2 see her, she was my 2nd cousin &the family decided together (I was not involved) 2ask us if we would be willing 2 take her. She loves us, we love her, but what r things I could do 2 make her not be angry w/ us?
krams1120 1 year ago
i am adopted and although i dont remember my mum and dad i remember the years of fostor care i went through and cant express just how glad and happy i am that my adopted mum and dad chose me and my sister. I understand what your saying though.
shellii14 1 year ago
thank you for the video - my daughter is a half-orphan an i have heard words very often that sounded quite similar. it is a painful way to yourself. best wishes from germany.
schleidreck 1 year ago
this video really upset me im adopted aswell there are reasons ive been brought up by adoptive parents they are my family have u never heard the phrase it takes alot to be a mum but anyone can be a mother yes they may have wanted a child and for what ever reason they didnt choose or couldnt have tehir own but at the end of the day they raised you and loved you,
fmernagh 1 year ago
I never said anything to the contrary. What I'm simply saying is that regardless of circumstance or outcome, I am purely not grateful that I was adopted or grateful to my parents for adopting me.
chicagociccone 1 year ago
@chicagociccone That is your right to feel that way. I was not adopted, so I cannot empathize, but the entire idea of adoption is based on loss. So, why should you be grateful? If everything went the way people would want their lives to go, you would have never been put up for adoption in the first place. I think it's wrong for anyone(another adoptee or not) to try and make you feel wrong for feeling the way you feel. The way I see it, you're completed justified...
sryididthis 1 year ago
@chicagociccone I am an adoptee and had really great parents. Mind you I did not say perfect for there are no such things. I found my Bm's family...turns out she was an unstable person with mental disorders. I finally caught up with her 4 months after she died...never got to meet her. My BF died when I was 4. Never got to meet him...BUT I have 2 sisters from my mother and 3 brother's from my dad. Not to mention aunts and uncles and cousins and a grandma.
indnbeaut 1 year ago
@chicagociccone I encourage you to search and get your answes. BUT please be aware that you may NOT like everything that you find. You must keep an open mind and try to prepare yourself for some very ugly truths and be ready to deal with them. I did not find "normal" situations and behaviors, yet I have made my peace with it. For me knowing is much better thatn not knowing. I hope you will find peace in your heart. if you'd like to send me a message, maybe I can help you in your search
indnbeaut 1 year ago
wow someone telling THE TRUTH ....pretty cool
kathyj1953 1 year ago
And to add - I think you need a warrior's courage to struggle past it. Because nobody will really understand. You have to do it alone - nobody will really know what you are struggling with completely alone. That's real bravery.
So it's great you have arrived where you now are, and I wish you courage - I am one of the few who appreciates what it will take for you to get there.
Be proud of your strength and you will prevail - there's a better place on the other side of it. When you are ready.
TubeFreakJonas 1 year ago
You're right, parents can be vain jackasses who think they are just adding you on as a lifestyle accessory.
And birth parents can be self-absorbed idiots who make the worst decisions with terrible timing before they give up on you.
But you know why?
They are very flawed people, not mature, evolved adults.
I know having no biological 'belonging' just adds to the painful confusion of being badly placed. My family were like aliens to me, and it was horribly isolating.
I understand you friend.
TubeFreakJonas 1 year ago
This video scared me! I have a biological child and I adopted my second child. I wanted to a child a safe secured happy loving family. Is that wrong? I am so scared after seeing you. Will my daughter go through similar pain?
arunimab2009 2 years ago
Nobody can say for sure what emotions your child is going to experience, though my personal inclination is to say that on some level, you child will likely experience similar emotions. I was to make it very clear though that I don't hate or even dislike my adoptive parents. I love them very much. However, I believe nothing is completely altruistic.
chicagociccone 2 years ago
That said, it's been my personal experience that maintaining a dialogue with your child about about his/her emotions, letting your child be open and honest, and expressing that you will always love them even if they express emotions that are difficult for you to understand is hugely important. There are several authors who write openly and eloquently on the topic of adoptee pain, and you might consider books by Betty Jean Lifton as a starting point
chicagociccone 2 years ago
@chicagociccone I never thought it was altruistic. My sole reason for adopting is to have a family of my own. We never tried fertility treatments, because the moment we thought we were going to, my daughter popped up in my life after her father died. We decided then that this was the option we would choose. I've been hearing a lot about adoptive kids struggling. I know growing up I always tried finding how I looked like my family. I have red hair, my parents are brunette.
krams1120 1 year ago
@chicagociccone Countless times I was told, "Oh you must look like your father," When meeting my mom's friends, and "Oh you must look like your mother." when meeting my dad's friends. I'm not saying I understand, because I don't; but I do understand why that connection is so important. I know there will always be a part of my children who want to be with someone else. Despite that, I am still choosing to adopt, I just hope my children don't resent me for that.
krams1120 1 year ago
Nancy Verrier's 'The Primal Wound' is essential reading. She is an adoptive too.
watershipdown2008 1 year ago
I just want to thank you for sharing your thoughts so openly and honestly.
mizgeministarz 2 years ago
I am adopted and really does hurt, my adoptive parents say that i am there child cause they raised me and they get MAD when I talk about my birth mom trying to get information on her! Because I have a right to think about her she gave me breathing life!
boycrazy34567 2 years ago
I completely understand how you feel. However I have an open adoption with my birth mother and her family. I consider her parents my grandparents and her two kids that were born after me my brothers. I have never met my birth father. He didn't want to deal with me. My adoptive mom has only sent letters to his mother and we send them a christmas card every year. I want to contact him and hopefully meet his family but I am scared to death that they will reject me yet again.
FASHIONISTADARLING 2 years ago
im sorry girl :( I understand what you say when you mention that your parents are not like you etc cause it does count. In my case i have no idea if it is because of luck or what but my dad and i are very very similar, very sentimental and all. Me and my mom not that much she s like very very organized and extremely feminine but im not that organized and classy sometimes!!! and believe i do not look like them at all, my dad is black and my mom has tanned skin oh but i love them so muchhh
PUCCAPANAMA 2 years ago
My husband was adopted and has never had a desire to find his birth parents. Adoption can be an amazing thing. His parents are the most wonderful people I could ask for as in-laws and not because they have money because they doen't but they have a self-less love for their kids and grandkids. They have taught me what it means to be a good parent. I hope one day to adopt so that I can give a loving family to a child that has no one.
DechantKS 2 years ago
French-Canadian / Chinese boy adopted by Jamaican/Chinese family. Shipped to Jamaica from Canada, then back, adopted mother dies when he's 18, father cheats on entire family, has felt completely alone and different from adoptive family entire life, suicidal for almost 10 years, that's my story. But I found a way to grieve all i've lost, accept the beauty that this version of life offers (and there's LOTS of it), and create my own life. I hope you keep fighting and find a way to peace.
basketball19283 2 years ago
I am not, by all means, trying to ignore your feelings. I just hope she knows that I did not want to do what I did. It was a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I do not feel that I am a good mother for giving her up. Especially since I got married and pregnant (yet again) six months later. Time will not heal these wounds. Nothing can. I should have found some way to keep her because I cannot let her go.
geigernator09 2 years ago
and I knew foster care was not an option being as it is harder to get your children back after doing so. I have an open adoption. That way, if it is too emotionally hard for me to see her, I don't have to, but if I can't get enough of her, I can see her whenever I want. The adoptive parents no longer send me pictures or letters to tell me how she is doing. My heart aches to know. I cannot imagine the loss you are feeling, but I hope my daughter does not feel the same way.
geigernator09 2 years ago
but wanted to keep my daughter. My original plan (while I was still pregnant) was to keep her. Eventually, I decided to give her up at birth. But when I held her in my arms, I knew there was no way I could let her go. When she was three and a half months old, I decided that I was tired of relying in everyone else to help me in raising my daughter. I did not and still do not believe in adoption, so yes, it makes me a hypocrite, but I had to do something...
geigernator09 2 years ago
I gave up my daughter a year ago. It was BY FAR the hardest thing I've ever had to do. I gave her for reasons of my own. However, my mom threatened to never speak to me or see me ever again. She was a huge impact on my life, and I figured I could have other children, which I do. I regret my decision everyday. I regret sleeping with her "father", but I don't regret having her. When I gave her up, I didn't have a job, didn't (and couldn't) afford daycare to GET a job, hadn't graduated high school.
geigernator09 2 years ago
Awesome video! Come back to the forum! Are you still blogging? We still need to get together for vodka sometime :)
elizabethcl 2 years ago
I know exactly how you feel.
ohjessx 2 years ago
"Adoption Loss is the only trauma in the world where the victims are expected by the whole of society to be grateful"
— The Reverend Keith C. Griffith, MBE
fyodor7680 2 years ago
Did you ever find your birth mother??
FinCups 2 years ago
Yes.
chicagociccone 2 years ago
wow...i always thought that of friends that were adopted; that it couldn't ever feel just like your biological parents. how on earth do you resolve that in your self?
hereBDBD 2 years ago
I'll let you know if I find a way, but don't hold your breath.
chicagociccone 2 years ago
I feel exactly the same, people really dont understand an adoptees experience, we owe nobody anything, its like if we address are pain people try to shut us down "its not a big issue" "you should be grateful" "you would of been better of being adopted" I know from my experience I would not of been "better of" with adoption nobody wins, its a triad of pain and heartache
anthonyok 2 years ago
Hey hun, I understand kinda how you must feel, I know you realy have allot of pain in your heart towards your birth and adoptive parents. I am a birth mom, right now I have to get ready for work, I work nights as a security officer. But I would like to talk with you more later about this. Just know you are loved and cared about . Check out my adoption vids and my pro and let me know what you think ok. Take care
- Erin
blueangel9287 2 years ago
Your birth mom GAVE you up, thats why ur adopted. Im not saying that you should be grateful to be adopted, because I'm not. But your parents gave you a life that your bmom couldn't. And if she could have given you that same life, why didn't she keep you?
ButterflyRose420 2 years ago
That's not the point.
chicagociccone 2 years ago
"Adoption Loss is the only trauma in the world where the victims are expected by the whole of society to be grateful"
— The Reverend Keith C. Griffith, MBE
fyodor7680 2 years ago
Birth parents give up children for them to have a better life, but that is no guarantee. I was given up so there would be two parents, but the adopted parents divorced quickly leaving me in a single parent home with a mother who relied on "her mother" to raise me.
tidefrog 2 years ago
I have been doing a lot of research, and am cancelling the open adoption planned for my unborn daughter. I am grateful to the victims of this adoption shit so that my daughter and I will not be torn apart because I feel indebted to an infertile couple, or that I couldnt provide as well as they could.
keenamaca 3 years ago
Thank you for your comment. I wish both of you all of the very best, and hope that you know there are millions out there who support women who have the courage to do what is best for both of you. Much, much love.
chicagociccone 3 years ago
Good for you! It's tragic that more moms don't get the facts before they surrender their babies. They're brainwashed by the child predators and drink their kool-aid. They and their children end up in adoption hell.
I'm as sickened when adoptees are told to be grateful as when mothers are told, "Be glad you did the best thing for your baby." How in HELL do they know? It's also cruelly insulting. Many babies are adopted by drunks and abusers. Our anger is quite justified.
asynkronos 2 years ago
Thank you for validating the way some adoptees feel.
meiling04 3 years ago
"Buy a dog" lol My sentiments exactly. Very nicely done video, Chica. Good luck.
Sammicsno 3 years ago
you are awesome. i too am an adoptee. you say exactly what I think. I struggle daily with putting on the fake "well-adjusted/sooo grateful adoptee" mask. when I do want to say stuff like you said in the video, people stop listening and scoff at what I say. It's tough to suffer in silence but it's nice to see that others are ungrateful too.
batmanzena 3 years ago
My son is posting to you privately, it's not me. He is signed on to my computer I don't know how to change it so it goes to his computer. If your "real" mother didn't want you and you were "stillborn" how could your adoptive parents have snatched you? You were obviously put up for adoption right? I am trying to understand. I read about Primal wounds and have had several signs, you don't have to be adopted. Maybe just not nurtured appropriately. There are a few skeptics out there, more research.
CrystalFear666 3 years ago
I'm sorry, Truly I am, I didn't mean to sound ignorant. My point was that that a real family can be pretty awful, you just never know. For years I had been trying to buy my moms love. The "big mistake" comment was about me for actually thinking I could buy her love. I am actually against adoption for this reason. That one will not feel good enough or loved or a true part of the family. Even though I was Bio I couldn't have felt more different. I didn't look like my two sisters. Mona
CrystalFear666 3 years ago
Right. I didn't choose my family just like you didn't choose yours. But nobody chose yours for you.
chicagociccone 3 years ago
Wow!!! I'm not adopted but Ive felt adopted and when I was younger always said I was adopted because my mom didn't love me like she did my two sisters. News-Flash real family can suck too. My family treats me horribly. We took my mom to Florida on vacation with us (my way to try and buy her love)BIG mistake.
CrystalFear666 3 years ago
I can't begin to explain how ignorant this comment is.
chicagociccone 3 years ago
i LOVE this video! great job!
jeni582200 3 years ago
Good for you dear! I've blogged about this stuff before, but I don't know if I'd have the courage to put myself out there like you did.
I am so sick of people telling me how I should feel. Even though many adoptees have a wide range of feelings about their experience, they all have a right to those feelings. You continue to say anything you're feeling at the moment and shame on those who judge you for it.
DrunkBunny 3 years ago
You have my support!! No one is MORE manipulated than the adopted child. I am anti-adoption. I belive that in some cases where children are in FOSTER care or are ORPHANS need parents, NOT the childless couple with fertility issues coercing young mothers into giving up their babies. YOU ARE SO RIGHT!! THIS VIDEO IS GOING IN MY FAVORITES!!
sexindustrysurvivor 3 years ago
What do you mean "news flash, my mother wanted me" Was she forced to give you up? I am really sorry about what you are going through.
pinkdiamond913 3 years ago
She had planned to keep me, but was ultimately coereced by her parents and the agency.
chicagociccone 3 years ago
HUGE kudos! Seriously, this was an awesome video reply to an awesome original video. I'm so happy that we're starting to speak up.
Freakin brilliant. It's refreshing to see people like you and AdopteeWarrior (Gersh) speaking so honestly and openly... and being so genuine... on this topic.
Thanks for posting this.
zuko4prez 3 years ago
I hear the bitterness & anger. But I also hear you contradict yourself. You said that your mother 'wanted you' then later in the video, you claim to be 'still born' because your mother didn't want you. There is one that adopts us all & you are in need of His love & mercy. My mother & 3 cousins were adopted. I would like to meet my grandparents someday, don't get me wrong, but bitterness made my mother an alcoholic. Become an adopted child of God. Stop being so spiteful and selfish. Peace.
nowFREEinCHRISTalone 3 years ago
I think it's so interesting that when people talk about themselves, they are labeled as 'selfish'. It happens. It's a video that discusses something personal, so of course I'm going to talk about myself. And I have a newsflash for you: It wasn't bitterness that made your mother an alcoholic, it was probably a genetic predisposition combined with childhood abuse.
And because I don't want to be spiteful, I won't touch on your ridiculous comments about god and jesus.
chicagociccone 3 years ago
NOWFREEINCHRISTALONE, you are a hypocritical jerk! How can you call yourself a Christian after calling her selfish? If there is anyone who has bitterness its YOU. Just try to stand in ANY adoptee's shoes just ONCE. LEAVE HER ALONE!! She was the child that had NO CHOICE in where her life was going. How is that fair for you to point fingers and judge. Take the peg out of your own eye!
sexindustrysurvivor 3 years ago
We are all born with no choice. None of us chooses to be born and none of us chooses our parents. My mom let a neighbor take advantage of me, I was 11, he was 20 (I think). I asked her if she was going to do anything about it. She said she didn't want to upset the neighbors. Nice huh? I don't expect this to make it up on your site. My other comment/apology/explanation didn't make it. It only shows me I made a valid point with you and you didn't like it. You want your point represented not others
CrystalFear666 3 years ago
its nice to know that other people feel the same way i do... I was adopted at birth... and even though i love my parents... im not grateful... i never was... and i never will be.... i am 20 years old now... and i just found my birthmom 5months ago and i have 5 other brothers and sisters... and i see my brothers and sisters like everyday and we all hang out and its amazing... its like i was never not there...
Kdyl07 3 years ago
Way to go!!!!! that was awesome!! Thank you for your reply and putting some core, deep feelings on the web for everyone to see. ROCK ON!! I agree with so much of what you have said.
AdopteeWarrior 3 years ago