Just a correction to my earlier post - the IL-62 was operated by 30 countries (not 20) including a few western airlines (KLM [9 planes], JAL, Air France, Guyana Airways, Air India). The biggest non-Russian operators were Germany (24), Czechoslovakia (21), Cuba (28), and Poland (23). The largest fleet outside Aeroflot (which had 165 IL-62s in 1989) was Domodedovo Airlines which had 45. Some IL-62s have been in service for 30 years, but 20 would be more common for heavily used examples.
@Kazik10001 Fittings were up to the individual airlines.LOT's loss rates for other planes were also unusually high eg AN-12 (1 of 1 crashed) AN-24 (2 of 20 crashed) and Vickers Viscount (2 of 3 crashed, one after only a month in service). The fact is that other airlines didn't have such IL-62 accidents (due to assembly faults or whatever) and the international loss rate for IL-62Ms is the lowest of its class. That's all one can really conclude.
@KarlosLatynos That was not the fault of the aircraft! That was the weather conditions at the airport, and hysterical attempts of the team at the aircraft to land the aircraft at this airport!
@peterkvideo Yes they did not find any fault with the plane. I suspect there was delegational pressure to land even though they were advised not to. The plane was fitted with western-type ILS which did not recognise the Russian ILS (PRMG) at Smolensk so landing in 400 m vis would be extremely risky to say the least. Very few of the 37 fatal Tu-154 accidents/incidents since 1968 were due to technical fault.
@kubaAk47 Czech Airlines also considered western planes in the 1960s (including the VC-10) before buying the IL-62 (China also looked at the VC-10 but decided against it). I don't know if the Czechs ever considered the Boeing 707 for long-haul routes but its relatively high accident and hull loss rates were known by the late 1960s. The first western planes the Czechs bought were late model Boeing 737s and Airbus in the late '90s, after which it retired some of its IL-62s and onsold others.
@kubaAk47 Was Poland 'forced' to buy these planes? Bulgaria and Hungary didn't ever buy the IL-62. Romania had planes from east and west and operated IL-62s next to Boeing 707s on long haul routes. Germany, Romania and Czechoslovakia operated numerous IL-62s (50 planes) very safely for decades. Of LOT's IL-62 fleet, 10 were leased (not bought) from Tarom and Aeroflot, and the ones they bought were sold to Ukraine in Jan '92. Ukraine flew them (without incident) until 2 years ago.
@augusta613 "Ukraine flew them (without incident) until 2 years ago" Guess what? Polish airlines installed prevention systems, which warned about coming engine damage, therefore accidents could be prevented. It costed more to service and upgrade those flying coffins...
@KAzik10001 That is not news -the systems LOT installed were well known. There are different ways of checking turbines but LOT was unable to (nor service powerplants because it lacked facilities). Ukraine operated 10 IL-62 including ones purchased/leased from other airlines. 'Flying coffin' was the name given to the B 707 in the '60s following a string of crashes (> twice the IL-62 rate).
@augusta613 do the research key word "flying coffin": "Two particular aircraft commonly in use in Iran are the Tupolev Tu-154 also known among Iranians as "flying coffins" and the Ilyushins 76, the Soviet-era workhorses for Russian civil air fleets. " How ironic, that Tu- 154 just crashed this weekend... Russians can't make good planes, no excuse me couldnt, dont wanna judge their planes today, although only few airlines use it. To make a Russian plane safe, thousands of $ have to be spend
@KAzik10001 Tragically Iran has a bad record of ALL planes (see ASN), and it has sanctions on aviation parts. Polish TU-154 crash was great loss for Poland but no evidence of technical failure. It was warned to divert & not land in vis 500m. TU-154 has a good safety record and many operated where western planes can't. IL-76 is a popular freighter in many countries esp on humanitarian flights in war/dangerous conditions.
@KAzik10001 Without doubt this plane has the best record of its class/era. Operated by 20+ nations it is highly regarded. Polish archives released in 2010 show that LOT had deep financial crisis (as did the whole country with strikes/labour unrest in '80s) and were instructed to exceed all jet engine service lives to save costs. The engine that failed in 1980 had caused problems on 2 other IL-62s but was still fitted. LOT did no turbine-vibration checks before '87, critical to this design
Correct - Havana can be tricky esp during tropical storms. In 1977 was СССР86614which came in at an incorrect approach and hit power transmission lines. In 1989 was Cubana CU-T128 trying to takeoff during a storm when she got caught in powerful downdrafts and hit airport navigational aerials and a hillside before crashing. CU-T1281was the only Cubana fatality in 30 years service with 28 planes.
read about polish IL 62 in 1980 and IL 62m in 1986.Russian morons took out every other ball from the bearings of the turbine shaft and in additions they made a several holes in this bearings which resulted in two fatal crashes in which over 250 people lost their lives.
Il-62M was a piece of crap. A two crashed in Poland during the 80' because of the engine production defects. In fact originally it was transportation plane adjusted to public transport conditions. Unfortunately due to its original purpose it was designed to not all legal requirements demanded by civil transportation regulations were met. In that two mishaps 300 people died and we lost excellent LOT crews. How the 62Ms can still be used? It's extremely dangerous.
It was apparently only dangerous with LOT and had better safety than VC10, 707, DC8/9 & no fatality between 1989-2009. In 43 years, 41 airlines operated Il-62s yet the only fatal engine failure of this type was with LOT which must surely tell you something. LOT could not even remove engines for servicing and should never have bought planes they could not maintain esp in the chaotic Solidarity period. LOT also leased Aeroflot & Tarom maintained Il-62s, without a single incident.
"The only fatal engine failure of this type was with LOT" is correct. The Cubana plane landed safely - they operated 28 IL-62s (1979-2010) and had some of the oldst planes in service. LOT's fatal accident rate with the IL-62 was 30 times the IL-62 average. They ran them for 3000-3500 hrs between overhauls (2000-2500 hrs is usual for an IL-62) with no turbine testing between. They only started doing them after 1987 after which they had no accidents of this type.
You don't know realism of life in communist block, we were forced to buy this crap, with that kind of service agreement. Any western manufacturer would correct mistake after one disaster. Russians knew about engine problems and for 6 years they kept producing it without any changes. IN addition everything on the plane was made with easy combustible materials.
How many crashes were there of DC-10, DH Comet and Boeing due to fuselage/mechanical failures before the causes were rectified? Rudder problems in 737s were only corrected after several crashes and undercarriage/fuselage 707 problems were never fully addressed which is reflected in its accident rate. The DC-10 was only relegated to a largely cargo career following a string of crashes of causes (engine/fuselage) and 4 of 9 Comet 1s crashed before DH looked at the problem.
The chief engineer of Lockheed Robert Ormsbi after thorough consultation with the plane held a press conference where he said: "IL-62" - this is well and cleverly worked out, practical design. This is a well-designed aircraft. Russian, of course, have a well-deserved pride in his flight, so it is worth. "For the IL-62 was probably only a high horizontal position of feathers. And that, ultimately, helped find the optimal location pod that provides a significant reduction in noise passenger cabin.
Some can. The DC-9, for example, can't. Even though its engines are mounted on the tail, anything the main tires kick up goes straight through the engines. The 737-200, on the other hand, did quite well on gravel, even though its engines were very close to the ground. (They did, however, have to use engine bleed air to dissiapte the intake vortex so it wouldn't suck stuff it.)
можно взлетать с впп плохого качества, можно садиться на короткие впп ("до упора" держать реверс не беспокоясь что засосёт мусор), характеристики крыла улучшаются и можно установить низко на фюзеляже - комфорт при взлёте и посадке...
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Furthermore the airplane could loose one but not two engines to be able to fly. This is how the both PLL LOT airplanes crashed. They were used in perfectly normal conditions and flying on the long distance rout: Warsaw-New York and Warsaw-Chicago. The first thing the PLL LOT did after the fall of the communism in Poland is to get rid of all Russian planes... for the safety reasons of the passengers and crews. Since then LOT haven't had any serious accidents.
hmm, Russian airliners are fairly safe, the best example of this is Aeroflot, its the national carrier and is the largest operator of soviet built aircraft, and it has a very good safety record. It is also important to say that a lot of accidents were caused by the lack of computer equipment on board, thus making the pilots job harder and making him more prone to mistakes. Today aeroflot maintains all its aircraft to international standards as its standard policy and their record is very good.
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No, just no. Russian planes are sturdier than many western planes, yeh yeh yeh, they might have more crashes, look at the conditions they were in and the amount there were
Don't quit agree. Sturdier yeas. But as in the case of IL-62 there was a serious construction or rather manufacture failure. The engines main axle could just brake. This didn't just destroyed the particular engine but also the neighbouring engine and caused fire in the aeroplane itself.
Ah ok, yes maybe the Il-62, my bad, yes it was such a reliable plane. I think i was thinking of the Tu-154 or other such similar jets. Thanks for correcting me :)
Il-62 is for sure nice-looking plane, fast, comfortable. According to AirDisaster there were 10 accidents with fatalities (and 12 crashes in total). After 1992 LOT Polish Airlines retired all (6) Il-62M and sell them to Ukraine. After 1987 Il-62M were equipped with better vibration-control systems (to avoid explosion of engine) and additional, emergency steering system (doubled). In 1992 LOT Polish Airlines sell all 6 Il-62M to Ukraine, where they still fly...
sure 1 or 2 maybe still be flying... Again thanks to Polish LOT, who took care of its il-62 equipping it with vibration control, which warned the pilot, before anything bad happened. Interestingly PLL LOT did engine checkups pretty often and oil check after every flight... Result? 6 of checked engines were already damaged and could be a result for another diseaster. Also after "Kościuszko" and "Kopernik", Polish LOT had the safest IL62 and that's why they managed to sell those planes.
U are one incredibly arrogant polish guy. If Russian aviation is so shit, then show me what is so great about Polish aviation? What has it achieved? where are you 950km/h passenger airliners? and where are you fighter jets which you seem to be so proud about? please show me. If Russian aviation is so crap then polish aviation must be even worse. 254 built and how many crashed 12? wow thats actually good compared with Boeing 727 737 and the 747, which are "better" planes but still they fuck up.
OK boyo. I think you are talking about the achievements of the Soviet Union. You sucked out so many great Nations so you afforded to build your crappy aircrafts. Today you can only suck your mother earth (gas and oil) and like Arabs finance your (imperialistic) state. But once the oil and gas ends you will become an empty (Russian population diminishes rapidly) taiga and steppe. That's your future. PS. Long life for Georgia!
Polish aviation was perfectly OK (pre WW II) till Ruskis comies came to Poland uninvited. Look at the difrence in Eastern and Western Germany after 45 years of Russian "Friendship". If that nation is so great... Why ALL they neighbours hate them so much ???
althought Poland lost many planes, Polish pilots saved England, thats for sure... without 303 Polish Fighter Squadron England would go down, like France...
Sorry dude, I refrain from saying something rude to you. I don't want to be involved in this discussion you've had but for God's sake watch out what you're saying.
KAzik10001 daj spokój temu ruskiemu - to cep jakiś i tyle. Nie ma co.
Więc kto jest idiotą? Twoje słowa są ze sobą sprzeczne, dziecko. Szkoda, naprawdę zaczął myśleć, że Polacy mają odpowiednich ludzi. Okazało się myliłem
To powinno zwrócić KAzik10001. Jak już napisano, że był pewny, że nie chodziło o tych katastrof, takich wypadków, samolot wreszcie. Interesuje go tylko jedno - na pytanie, jak się jaśniejsze, aby pokazać swoje krajowe nietolerancji wobec innych narodów. Mam nadzieję, że zrozumiał, aby wyrazić swoje myśli w języku polskim. ;)
naucz się polskiego kretynie zanim zaczniesz go używać! twoja wypowiedz jest pozbawiona jakiegokolwiek sensu idioto. zresztą jak wszystkie inne ruski cwelu
Kurwa is your russian mother :) fucked by our soldiers in 1612 ... hahahaha
So your nation and country to this day is a communist poor area, with retired KGB agent on government chief position and Medwiediew, unnatural president seering by Putin form back.
We all know, that that something calling himself flighter or whatever has poor knowledge about the history. That something is still living in his own small world without known the facts embarrasing his nation like being fucked up the ass by NAZI in WW II after years of licking NAZI's prick confirmed by Molotov Ribbentrop pact. Sad nation soviets are. i feel sorry for them (not nececary for that something)
@KarlosLatynos ei shit, your poland was fucked all the time,by nazi,Russian and americans,if you nat stopid you do to be fucked again by somebody!!hahaha
This plane was copied from one of english plane of goods from years 60. From produced 256 items fell on earth 14. In Polish Air Lines LOT in year 1980 and 1987 crashed two such planes. The reasons of crashes were drawbacks of materials in engines. Though information delivered to side Russian planes were far produced in bad quality and far fell.
You're not only bad in history.You're also bad in simple mathematics.14 of 256 is not even close to 10% as you said earlier.Lies #1.
If you'd used your brain ever, you'd have had found out more on history of Ilyushin IL-62, Ilyushin IL-62M and Vickers VC-10. But you never did use your brain and just ate the shit your nazi daddy told you once upon a time. Lies #2 (About Vickers).
And the last one-your whole life,whole country,whole nation is a tragedy.
Greetings for uncle Stalin :) hehe. Ehhh .. poor, mendacious nation, from which laughs whole world. Sorrow crushes you that are russian-boy :) Bye, bye.
IL-62 is the best .... in Russia of course :) hehe
There a idiots among russian as well. But i really hate when that primitive stupidity deep inside breaks through the mind of a reasonable men. This didnt help germans in 30s-40s, this wont help any other nation.
Shut your fukcing mouth polish KURVA. Stop all that sh*t that spills out of your mouth - leave to your mother. Your so-called polish pilots should have learned more to care the advanced planes. And technishians learned more on how to take care of planes.
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dude your nation had to steal blueprints of planes Vickers VC10 to produce IL62. Also Tu144 was cloned based on french Concorde, so don't you say that your nation can build planes!
Just a correction to my earlier post - the IL-62 was operated by 30 countries (not 20) including a few western airlines (KLM [9 planes], JAL, Air France, Guyana Airways, Air India). The biggest non-Russian operators were Germany (24), Czechoslovakia (21), Cuba (28), and Poland (23). The largest fleet outside Aeroflot (which had 165 IL-62s in 1989) was Domodedovo Airlines which had 45. Some IL-62s have been in service for 30 years, but 20 would be more common for heavily used examples.
av21031 1 year ago
Had a luck to fly by IL-62 twice 1980.It was really a good aircraft.
Soviets had 2 IL's-highest quality passenger planes-IL-18 and IL-62.
arissss1962 1 year ago
Самый лучший в мире самолёт!!!
SlavIL62M 1 year ago
This song contains a "Ilyushin" word? Very nice!
sirMIREK 1 year ago
To sirMIREK:
Its not copy VC-10, only same aerodinamyc solutions, like Concorde not copy of russian Tupolev 144, wich first flight was early...
denbogd 1 year ago
You're right! I've read about Tu-144. Tu-144 was first.
sirMIREK 1 year ago
Thanks a lot ! Fantastic aircraft. What the fantastic italian music?..
denbogd 1 year ago
It's russian copy of british VC-10.
sirMIREK 1 year ago
love it! best airplanes ever!
stasisnu18 1 year ago
@Kazik10001 Fittings were up to the individual airlines.LOT's loss rates for other planes were also unusually high eg AN-12 (1 of 1 crashed) AN-24 (2 of 20 crashed) and Vickers Viscount (2 of 3 crashed, one after only a month in service). The fact is that other airlines didn't have such IL-62 accidents (due to assembly faults or whatever) and the international loss rate for IL-62Ms is the lowest of its class. That's all one can really conclude.
augusta613 1 year ago
another russian shitcraft down. what a joke! RIP our family of polish patriots
KarlosLatynos 1 year ago
@KarlosLatynos That was not the fault of the aircraft! That was the weather conditions at the airport, and hysterical attempts of the team at the aircraft to land the aircraft at this airport!
peterkvideo 1 year ago
@peterkvideo Yes they did not find any fault with the plane. I suspect there was delegational pressure to land even though they were advised not to. The plane was fitted with western-type ILS which did not recognise the Russian ILS (PRMG) at Smolensk so landing in 400 m vis would be extremely risky to say the least. Very few of the 37 fatal Tu-154 accidents/incidents since 1968 were due to technical fault.
augusta613 1 year ago
@KarlosLatynos you r shit and joke and your polish femily too and all polish patriots!!!hahaha
ded0511 1 year ago
I love the Russian airliners ... shame they've shelved the Il-96!
slh950 1 year ago
@kubaAk47 Czech Airlines also considered western planes in the 1960s (including the VC-10) before buying the IL-62 (China also looked at the VC-10 but decided against it). I don't know if the Czechs ever considered the Boeing 707 for long-haul routes but its relatively high accident and hull loss rates were known by the late 1960s. The first western planes the Czechs bought were late model Boeing 737s and Airbus in the late '90s, after which it retired some of its IL-62s and onsold others.
augusta613 1 year ago
@kubaAk47 Was Poland 'forced' to buy these planes? Bulgaria and Hungary didn't ever buy the IL-62. Romania had planes from east and west and operated IL-62s next to Boeing 707s on long haul routes. Germany, Romania and Czechoslovakia operated numerous IL-62s (50 planes) very safely for decades. Of LOT's IL-62 fleet, 10 were leased (not bought) from Tarom and Aeroflot, and the ones they bought were sold to Ukraine in Jan '92. Ukraine flew them (without incident) until 2 years ago.
augusta613 1 year ago
@augusta613 "Ukraine flew them (without incident) until 2 years ago" Guess what? Polish airlines installed prevention systems, which warned about coming engine damage, therefore accidents could be prevented. It costed more to service and upgrade those flying coffins...
KAzik10001 1 year ago
@KAzik10001 That is not news -the systems LOT installed were well known. There are different ways of checking turbines but LOT was unable to (nor service powerplants because it lacked facilities). Ukraine operated 10 IL-62 including ones purchased/leased from other airlines. 'Flying coffin' was the name given to the B 707 in the '60s following a string of crashes (> twice the IL-62 rate).
augusta613 1 year ago
@augusta613 do the research key word "flying coffin": "Two particular aircraft commonly in use in Iran are the Tupolev Tu-154 also known among Iranians as "flying coffins" and the Ilyushins 76, the Soviet-era workhorses for Russian civil air fleets. " How ironic, that Tu- 154 just crashed this weekend... Russians can't make good planes, no excuse me couldnt, dont wanna judge their planes today, although only few airlines use it. To make a Russian plane safe, thousands of $ have to be spend
KAzik10001 1 year ago
@KAzik10001 Tragically Iran has a bad record of ALL planes (see ASN), and it has sanctions on aviation parts. Polish TU-154 crash was great loss for Poland but no evidence of technical failure. It was warned to divert & not land in vis 500m. TU-154 has a good safety record and many operated where western planes can't. IL-76 is a popular freighter in many countries esp on humanitarian flights in war/dangerous conditions.
augusta613 1 year ago
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TonyFirelli 1 year ago
@TonyFirelli bullshit, to prove you wrong il62 that crashed around 1980's, problem was solely caused by improper construction of that producer.
KAzik10001 1 year ago
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TonyFirelli 1 year ago
@KAzik10001 Without doubt this plane has the best record of its class/era. Operated by 20+ nations it is highly regarded. Polish archives released in 2010 show that LOT had deep financial crisis (as did the whole country with strikes/labour unrest in '80s) and were instructed to exceed all jet engine service lives to save costs. The engine that failed in 1980 had caused problems on 2 other IL-62s but was still fitted. LOT did no turbine-vibration checks before '87, critical to this design
av21031 1 year ago
Il 62 is a copy of British Vickers VC 10 cargo plane and in the mid 70's was already out of date.
kubaAk47 1 year ago
Flying coffin....
sirMIREK 1 year ago
All airplanes are about the same
TonyFirelli 1 year ago
can anyone tell me the name of the siger and the song! italian sounds so beautyful!!!
Alexander25C 2 years ago
The singer is Gianna Nannini and the song is "Meravigliosa creatura"
bye
MrFlightsim64 2 years ago
thanks a lot but a few days ago i wrote "meravigliosa creatura" in the search box of youtube and found out who's singing!
i speak a little bit of italian :D
Alexander25C 2 years ago
In 1977 an AEROFLOT's IL-62 crashed on landing at Havana Intl airport.
In 1989 another IL-62 crashed on take off at the same airport.
noreckito 2 years ago
Correct - Havana can be tricky esp during tropical storms. In 1977 was СССР86614which came in at an incorrect approach and hit power transmission lines. In 1989 was Cubana CU-T128 trying to takeoff during a storm when she got caught in powerful downdrafts and hit airport navigational aerials and a hillside before crashing. CU-T1281was the only Cubana fatality in 30 years service with 28 planes.
augusta613 2 years ago
read about polish IL 62 in 1980 and IL 62m in 1986.Russian morons took out every other ball from the bearings of the turbine shaft and in additions they made a several holes in this bearings which resulted in two fatal crashes in which over 250 people lost their lives.
kubaAk47 1 year ago
How is it that people as disrespectful as these post-cold war-dated brain washed people con litter a technical beauty and poetic page as this one ?
Release , easy , calm down, as if things were so wonderful on this side.
zapatatapaz 2 years ago
IL 62 - the best example of russian "technology" :) lol !!!
Lajkonik 2 years ago
What about "polish" technology? Any flying "kurwski"?
ffighter 2 years ago
Something good for your little mind:
watch?v=C-_YKCear0s
Lajkonik 2 years ago
YES, Im gonna go and do it with love to my women (and it isn't my duty) you russian bumboy :-D
so go and sit on your KY jelly you fucking soviet queen!
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
Il-62M was a piece of crap. A two crashed in Poland during the 80' because of the engine production defects. In fact originally it was transportation plane adjusted to public transport conditions. Unfortunately due to its original purpose it was designed to not all legal requirements demanded by civil transportation regulations were met. In that two mishaps 300 people died and we lost excellent LOT crews. How the 62Ms can still be used? It's extremely dangerous.
basic111 2 years ago
Such a bullshit =)))
ffighter 2 years ago
you're fucking russian wanker
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
Ooohh little polish motherfucker here you are again =)))
Who dissmised you from your sucking duty? Go back to sucking Now!! It's an order, you slave!
ffighter 2 years ago
It was apparently only dangerous with LOT and had better safety than VC10, 707, DC8/9 & no fatality between 1989-2009. In 43 years, 41 airlines operated Il-62s yet the only fatal engine failure of this type was with LOT which must surely tell you something. LOT could not even remove engines for servicing and should never have bought planes they could not maintain esp in the chaotic Solidarity period. LOT also leased Aeroflot & Tarom maintained Il-62s, without a single incident.
augusta613 2 years ago
so if you think that these Il 62 failures was happened only to LOT i recommend you to watch "Il 62 EN SANTO DOMINGO" on youtube.
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
"The only fatal engine failure of this type was with LOT" is correct. The Cubana plane landed safely - they operated 28 IL-62s (1979-2010) and had some of the oldst planes in service. LOT's fatal accident rate with the IL-62 was 30 times the IL-62 average. They ran them for 3000-3500 hrs between overhauls (2000-2500 hrs is usual for an IL-62) with no turbine testing between. They only started doing them after 1987 after which they had no accidents of this type.
augusta613 2 years ago
they were lucky that they made it to the airport
kubaAk47 1 year ago
You don't know realism of life in communist block, we were forced to buy this crap, with that kind of service agreement. Any western manufacturer would correct mistake after one disaster. Russians knew about engine problems and for 6 years they kept producing it without any changes. IN addition everything on the plane was made with easy combustible materials.
kubaAk47 1 year ago
How many crashes were there of DC-10, DH Comet and Boeing due to fuselage/mechanical failures before the causes were rectified? Rudder problems in 737s were only corrected after several crashes and undercarriage/fuselage 707 problems were never fully addressed which is reflected in its accident rate. The DC-10 was only relegated to a largely cargo career following a string of crashes of causes (engine/fuselage) and 4 of 9 Comet 1s crashed before DH looked at the problem.
augusta613 1 year ago
The chief engineer of Lockheed Robert Ormsbi after thorough consultation with the plane held a press conference where he said: "IL-62" - this is well and cleverly worked out, practical design. This is a well-designed aircraft. Russian, of course, have a well-deserved pride in his flight, so it is worth. "For the IL-62 was probably only a high horizontal position of feathers. And that, ultimately, helped find the optimal location pod that provides a significant reduction in noise passenger cabin.
Elektrostal1 2 years ago
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its an ugly pice of crap
Ramster211 2 years ago
Which advantages give engines on the back?
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Какие приимущества даёт расположение двигателей позади самолёта? Или просто ради гламура?
Dmitrytln 2 years ago
The advantage of engines in the back is, that the aircraft can also land on unsurfaced runways
(there´ve been some in the past / in Russia),
because dirt and dust can´t reach the engines so easy, like it could with engines under the wings.
Onuratdus 2 years ago
Some can. The DC-9, for example, can't. Even though its engines are mounted on the tail, anything the main tires kick up goes straight through the engines. The 737-200, on the other hand, did quite well on gravel, even though its engines were very close to the ground. (They did, however, have to use engine bleed air to dissiapte the intake vortex so it wouldn't suck stuff it.)
TheCannonofMohammed 2 years ago
можно взлетать с впп плохого качества, можно садиться на короткие впп ("до упора" держать реверс не беспокоясь что засосёт мусор), характеристики крыла улучшаются и можно установить низко на фюзеляже - комфорт при взлёте и посадке...
33333BlaBlaBla33333 2 years ago
Russian and American pilots are the best in the world
EZY732A319 2 years ago
IL62 similar to VC-10 but not a direct copy. The IL62 is more long haul than VC-10.
EZY732A319 2 years ago
very nice airplane...
atheuris 3 years ago
My father was a captain of the plaine.He sais it is the best plaine.I like it too))))
Mamalyzhenko 3 years ago
nice song , who singer ?
MCsiskatrah 3 years ago
Seems, Loredana Berte
Mamalyzhenko 3 years ago
Pleas watch the video "The Truth About Useless F-35 & F-22 [ Sukhoi Stealth Killers ] [ PowerRussia ]"
mikeplay007 3 years ago
What is this song title?
mpmazurek 3 years ago 2
Meravigliosa creatura by Gianna Nannini
Aliasaxxe73 3 years ago 2
thanks , realy happy with that song !
MCsiskatrah 2 years ago
Russian planes are very good. American airplanes are also very good. I don't recall a U.S. plane with four rear-mounted engines, however.
RussianFellow77 3 years ago 2
European? like airbus is very good.
TonyFirelli 3 years ago
There actuality is no American plane with 4 rear-mounted engines. And yeah, Russian planes are pretty amazing.
DeltaEagle7700 3 years ago 2
Beautiful... Piece of junk.
Kopernik's and Kosciuszko's Passengers - rest in peace.
vojtasjedyny 3 years ago
Bestyjka007 -super, now you can lick ass to americans...
Aviarongod 3 years ago
Bestyjka007 - you the stupid monkey!!!
Aviarongod 3 years ago
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Fortunately the Russian era in the aviation is over. For the sake of passenger and crew safety.
Bestyjka007 3 years ago
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Furthermore the airplane could loose one but not two engines to be able to fly. This is how the both PLL LOT airplanes crashed. They were used in perfectly normal conditions and flying on the long distance rout: Warsaw-New York and Warsaw-Chicago. The first thing the PLL LOT did after the fall of the communism in Poland is to get rid of all Russian planes... for the safety reasons of the passengers and crews. Since then LOT haven't had any serious accidents.
Bestyjka007 3 years ago
hmm, Russian airliners are fairly safe, the best example of this is Aeroflot, its the national carrier and is the largest operator of soviet built aircraft, and it has a very good safety record. It is also important to say that a lot of accidents were caused by the lack of computer equipment on board, thus making the pilots job harder and making him more prone to mistakes. Today aeroflot maintains all its aircraft to international standards as its standard policy and their record is very good.
contemporarymonk 3 years ago 6
Il-62 great plane. The flying coffin...
Bestyjka007 3 years ago
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No, just no. Russian planes are sturdier than many western planes, yeh yeh yeh, they might have more crashes, look at the conditions they were in and the amount there were
QantasPilot1 3 years ago
Don't quit agree. Sturdier yeas. But as in the case of IL-62 there was a serious construction or rather manufacture failure. The engines main axle could just brake. This didn't just destroyed the particular engine but also the neighbouring engine and caused fire in the aeroplane itself.
Bestyjka007 3 years ago
Ah ok, yes maybe the Il-62, my bad, yes it was such a reliable plane. I think i was thinking of the Tu-154 or other such similar jets. Thanks for correcting me :)
QantasPilot1 3 years ago 2
Ту-154 Самый быстрый в мире. Из пассажирских.
narvaxxixxi 3 years ago
skol'ko skorost'?
TonyFirelli 3 years ago
До 950 км/ч.
narvaxxixxi 3 years ago
один из лучьших дальнемагистральных самолетов в мире по сей день!!!!!!!!!!
к тому же один из самых надежных!!!!
обожаю ил-62М уууууррррррраааааааа!!!!
vovagonchar 3 years ago
Мне нравится!
narvaxxixxi 4 years ago 2
dla mnie ruscy mogliby się wszyscy zapakować w tego iła wraz ze swoim nowym prezydentem i rozpierdolić o KAUKAZ!
notresponsibility 4 years ago 5
As i said earlier - GO EDUCATE YOURSELF!
Learn english at least. Should i remember your hation's whining about export of your meat? Slaves...
ffighter 4 years ago
All truth about IL-62 (VC-1O cargo plane) :
time 3:35 watch?v=uJclOXFOK-s&feature=related
Facts are facts... :) This not Russian lies
Lajkonik 4 years ago
The dog is barking, but caravan still goes on.
Old arab saying.
Continue barking DOG.
ffighter 4 years ago
I see at you the lack of arguments. Give to know as will write once something sensible. I give facts and you write nonsenses.
See it : watch?v=uBdvcSC5NW4&feature=related
Lajkonik 4 years ago
Il-62 is for sure nice-looking plane, fast, comfortable. According to AirDisaster there were 10 accidents with fatalities (and 12 crashes in total). After 1992 LOT Polish Airlines retired all (6) Il-62M and sell them to Ukraine. After 1987 Il-62M were equipped with better vibration-control systems (to avoid explosion of engine) and additional, emergency steering system (doubled). In 1992 LOT Polish Airlines sell all 6 Il-62M to Ukraine, where they still fly...
mpmazurek 3 years ago 10
sure 1 or 2 maybe still be flying... Again thanks to Polish LOT, who took care of its il-62 equipping it with vibration control, which warned the pilot, before anything bad happened. Interestingly PLL LOT did engine checkups pretty often and oil check after every flight... Result? 6 of checked engines were already damaged and could be a result for another diseaster. Also after "Kościuszko" and "Kopernik", Polish LOT had the safest IL62 and that's why they managed to sell those planes.
KAzik10001 3 years ago 2
U are one incredibly arrogant polish guy. If Russian aviation is so shit, then show me what is so great about Polish aviation? What has it achieved? where are you 950km/h passenger airliners? and where are you fighter jets which you seem to be so proud about? please show me. If Russian aviation is so crap then polish aviation must be even worse. 254 built and how many crashed 12? wow thats actually good compared with Boeing 727 737 and the 747, which are "better" planes but still they fuck up.
contemporarymonk 3 years ago 10
contemporarymonk
OK boyo. I think you are talking about the achievements of the Soviet Union. You sucked out so many great Nations so you afforded to build your crappy aircrafts. Today you can only suck your mother earth (gas and oil) and like Arabs finance your (imperialistic) state. But once the oil and gas ends you will become an empty (Russian population diminishes rapidly) taiga and steppe. That's your future. PS. Long life for Georgia!
Bestyjka007 3 years ago
Polish aviation was perfectly OK (pre WW II) till Ruskis comies came to Poland uninvited. Look at the difrence in Eastern and Western Germany after 45 years of Russian "Friendship". If that nation is so great... Why ALL they neighbours hate them so much ???
miziol81 3 years ago
Some question about 1939. :)
How many German planes Poles have brought down? How many planes could fly up?
How many bombs it has been dumped?
as43 3 years ago 3
Germans used 1836 planes ( including 216 fighters) during atack on Poland. Polish army had 449 planes.
Germans had lost 285 planes, Poland 333 (Rest managed to get to Romania) That gives 1,16 Polish plane lost per German plane taken down.
In first day of operation Barbarossa it was 35 German planes lost for 2000 Russian shooten down(57:1). Indead... Astonishing success of Red Army :P
miziol81 3 years ago
althought Poland lost many planes, Polish pilots saved England, thats for sure... without 303 Polish Fighter Squadron England would go down, like France...
KAzik10001 3 years ago
OMG! You're sick!
ffighter 2 years ago
?? Fact, proof? All you do is call people names? OMG! You're childish!
KAzik10001 2 years ago
"Polish pilots saved England" (c) KAzik10001
That is an statement of a sick polish bastard.
ffighter 2 years ago
Sorry dude, I refrain from saying something rude to you. I don't want to be involved in this discussion you've had but for God's sake watch out what you're saying.
KAzik10001 daj spokój temu ruskiemu - to cep jakiś i tyle. Nie ma co.
basic111 2 years ago
Więc kto jest idiotą? Twoje słowa są ze sobą sprzeczne, dziecko. Szkoda, naprawdę zaczął myśleć, że Polacy mają odpowiednich ludzi. Okazało się myliłem
ffighter 2 years ago
Dobra misie kochane. Czegoś nie rozumiem kto jest kim i o co tu chodzi. Krzyzyk na drogę.
basic111 2 years ago
To powinno zwrócić KAzik10001. Jak już napisano, że był pewny, że nie chodziło o tych katastrof, takich wypadków, samolot wreszcie. Interesuje go tylko jedno - na pytanie, jak się jaśniejsze, aby pokazać swoje krajowe nietolerancji wobec innych narodów. Mam nadzieję, że zrozumiał, aby wyrazić swoje myśli w języku polskim. ;)
ffighter 2 years ago
naucz się polskiego kretynie zanim zaczniesz go używać! twoja wypowiedz jest pozbawiona jakiegokolwiek sensu idioto. zresztą jak wszystkie inne ruski cwelu
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
Ты такой охуенный интернет-боец, хуесос польский... молодец! Когда больше нечего сказать, начинаешь на свое поросячьем языке писать =)))
Тупорылая мразь =) Иди сиську пососи у мамки у своей маленький польский наци =)) На хуй послан, в общем.
ffighter 2 years ago
If you wanna tell something to me do it in english (obviously you cannot do it in proper polish as we know) you russian mongol!
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago 2
I may use my native language, since you use your gibberish language.
As i said earlier continue on sucking slave, leave me be, you nazi.
ffighter 2 years ago
zawsze sie mylisz ruska kurwo
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
ofcourse they did, without 303 squadron, England would fall.
KAzik10001 2 years ago
FUCK OFF you russian cunt!!!
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
ROFL @ u, курва!
ffighter 2 years ago
Poor polish internet warrior =)))
Just ROFL
ffighter 2 years ago
Shut up, russian slave :)
Lajkonik 2 years ago
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Muhaha.. Poland was given (!) constitution by russian Tzar Alexander the Third. Who is slave? LOL at you kurwa!
ffighter 2 years ago
Kurwa is your russian mother :) fucked by our soldiers in 1612 ... hahahaha
So your nation and country to this day is a communist poor area, with retired KGB agent on government chief position and Medwiediew, unnatural president seering by Putin form back.
Lajkonik 2 years ago 2
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ROFL at you poor polish nazi!
JUST ROFL!!
Mind your own Lolik and Bolik! =)))
ffighter 2 years ago
I am nazi only for russians :)
Lajkonik 2 years ago 2
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ffighter 2 years ago
I think you are a gay, arent you Lolik?
Leave your bullshit for your peasent polish slaves.
Come back when you get a brain.
ffighter 2 years ago
watch?v=C-_YKCear0s
watched ?
Lajkonik 2 years ago
We all know, that that something calling himself flighter or whatever has poor knowledge about the history. That something is still living in his own small world without known the facts embarrasing his nation like being fucked up the ass by NAZI in WW II after years of licking NAZI's prick confirmed by Molotov Ribbentrop pact. Sad nation soviets are. i feel sorry for them (not nececary for that something)
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
All true...
Lajkonik 2 years ago
@KarlosLatynos ei shit, your poland was fucked all the time,by nazi,Russian and americans,if you nat stopid you do to be fucked again by somebody!!hahaha
ded0511 1 year ago
where did you find this?? Poland has never been given constitution by anyone you soviet dumb
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
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OMFG!!! That is the best example of your polish stupidity!
LOL, you are so brainwashed polish slave?
Alexander I did that. Go educate yourself and dont post anything here so that you dont look like a dumb ass.
Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it
ffighter 2 years ago
What!?! me slave!!! I am free. i can go anywhere i like (you cant). I have a life.
go back to your poverty stricken life in your little box room in front of your screen you soviet filth
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
When there is nothing to do to hide your stupidity the best way is to shut up.
But polish slaves dont know that. And that is why there will always be little slave dog in their brain.
I've never laughed so much. Polish slaves are so funny =))
Your master doesnt want you to bark at your previous owner. =)))
ffighter 2 years ago
you stupid filthfighter
your brain is as big as end of that sentence.
shut up or i'll slap you!
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
OMFG JUST ROFL!
Such a moron you are!
Come and try, loser!
ffighter 2 years ago
filthfighter
there is only one word that sums you up
FILTH
dont forget it
you are the weakest link
your boring me now
good bye soviet filth
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
Never thought that your stupidity would make me laugh so much! =))
Bye bye mr. brainwashed prostituting idiot!
LOL
ffighter 2 years ago
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@ffighter another russian shitcraft down(Tu 154) . what a joke! RIP our family of polish patriots
KarlosLatynos 1 year ago
Slaves ?! Go away and suck....Pierdolony huju.
rb28det 2 years ago 2
that russian cunt needed to be knock out fucking swolocz
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
Germans used 1836 planes ( including 216 fighters) during atack on Poland. Polish army had 449 planes.
Germans had lost 285 planes, Poland 333 (Rest managed to get to Romania) That gives 1,16 Polish plane lost per German plane taken down.
In first day of operation Barbarossa it was 35 German planes lost for 2000 Russian shooten down(57:1). Indead... Astonishing success of Red Army :P
miziol81 3 years ago
Speak for your country loser!
ffighter 2 years ago
Poland's territory no is bigger than it was before WW2.
Thank to russians eh? Kurwa
ffighter 2 years ago
Poland was under russian rule till 1918 (or so). There were no complaints AFAIK.
ffighter 2 years ago
This plane was copied from one of english plane of goods from years 60. From produced 256 items fell on earth 14. In Polish Air Lines LOT in year 1980 and 1987 crashed two such planes. The reasons of crashes were drawbacks of materials in engines. Though information delivered to side Russian planes were far produced in bad quality and far fell.
Lajkonik 4 years ago
You're not only bad in history.You're also bad in simple mathematics.14 of 256 is not even close to 10% as you said earlier.Lies #1.
If you'd used your brain ever, you'd have had found out more on history of Ilyushin IL-62, Ilyushin IL-62M and Vickers VC-10. But you never did use your brain and just ate the shit your nazi daddy told you once upon a time. Lies #2 (About Vickers).
And the last one-your whole life,whole country,whole nation is a tragedy.
ffighter 4 years ago
Go educate yourself, курва пердолевана!
ffighter 4 years ago
Greetings for uncle Stalin :) hehe. Ehhh .. poor, mendacious nation, from which laughs whole world. Sorrow crushes you that are russian-boy :) Bye, bye.
IL-62 is the best .... in Russia of course :) hehe
Lajkonik 4 years ago
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hey, gagarin! why do u thing its good plane? its rubbish u wanker!
notresponsibility 4 years ago
There were 12 (twelve) accidents...Not 14
Lies #3
ffighter 4 years ago
...and second tragedy. Fly Warsaw - New York in 1980 year: watch?v=z-fE3JUZRPo
Same reason case. The drawback of manufacturing engines. You will blow-out embankments and turbines. Bad materials and bad enforcement.
Lajkonik 4 years ago
Poor, communist russian boy ... Greetings from Poland :) Have a nice day :)
Lajkonik 4 years ago
Your father is a communist, bitch. As were all polish in 1918-1941 era - hookers .
Stop whining...
Or i will not say that polish nation destroyed more jews in poland during WW2 than Hitler did...
ffighter 4 years ago
ffighter, you are idiot and I will not with you discuss. Each he can appraise you on your comments.
Lajkonik 4 years ago
Learn english, "european"... LOL
ffighter 4 years ago
Yeah, grammar for you ffighter. English should be capitalized...
KAzik10001 2 years ago
Oh, yeah! There is nothing else to say? Poor polish full of hate guy.
ROFL
ffighter 2 years ago
No all I'm saying is that you shouldnt correct somebody, especially since you're doing mistakes as well!
KAzik10001 2 years ago
Who has never tasted bitter, knows not what is sweet.
Understand that?
ffighter 2 years ago
Was it to me?
basic111 2 years ago
I replied to KAzik10001....
ffighter 2 years ago
OK, fine. One note: please do not offend Polish (I'm Polish as well).
basic111 2 years ago
There a idiots among russian as well. But i really hate when that primitive stupidity deep inside breaks through the mind of a reasonable men. This didnt help germans in 30s-40s, this wont help any other nation.
ffighter 2 years ago
That shit produced in Soviet Union 256 items. It fell on earth almost 10 percent. Tragedy !!!
Lajkonik 4 years ago
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EAT SHIT POLISH SUKA!
ffighter 4 years ago
Kiss my polish ass :) stupid communist russian :)
Lajkonik 4 years ago
I'd rather Kick it once again... slave...
ffighter 4 years ago
That shit produced in Soviet Union 256 items. It fell on earth almost 10 percent. Tragedy !!!
Lajkonik 4 years ago
Shut your fukcing mouth polish KURVA. Stop all that sh*t that spills out of your mouth - leave to your mother. Your so-called polish pilots should have learned more to care the advanced planes. And technishians learned more on how to take care of planes.
Continue on sucking US di*k... Nation of hookers
ffighter 4 years ago
Stupid nation - stupid engeeners - flying shit :)
Lajkonik 4 years ago
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Yeah thats ALL right about poland and polish aviation =)
ffighter 4 years ago
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dude your nation had to steal blueprints of planes Vickers VC10 to produce IL62. Also Tu144 was cloned based on french Concorde, so don't you say that your nation can build planes!
KAzik10001 3 years ago
kazik You were born with a syndrome Down or to you have washed brain propagation of the USA?;)
Aviarongod 3 years ago
little offtopic, just today Aeroflot 737 down...
KAzik10001 3 years ago
russian "geniuses" only think what they can do is to make a copy. poor copy as all we know (konkordsky as well)
KarlosLatynos 2 years ago
You are an example of a little polish nazi bitch. So please shut up, troll.
ffighter 2 years ago