Scozzafava: 'Disingenuous' for Pawlenty and Palin to Endorse in a Race 'They Knew Nothing About'

[fugusushi]

Palin, no understanding, disingenuous. yes, that's about right...

[simont7]

Remember how this started: Obama asked a moderate R. from this lean R. district to be secretary of the Army. He accepted. Normal people would put someone similar in that seat, which is what the local GOP tried to do. But then the cons, who definately are NOT normal, decided to pee in the lemonade and run a cadaver for the position instead. Dems laugh all the way to a slightly larger majority. Obama: Roadrunner to the conservatives' Wile E. Coyote.

[Realizalize]

i can imagine how these repubs would

get on my nerves if i was one of them, but

it seems what they did to her beyond their own usual stupidity with things she mentioned , that are fascist paroles there.

- however i am in love with her name, it is one fav. this year.

[armyveteran101st]

I personally wouldn't mind it if these hysterical extremists in the GOP today keep doing this kind of stuff, because that will ensure their self-destruction as valid political actors. Dede Scozzafava should be awarded the "Profiles In Courage" award for what she did. She takes me back to the times when people like Dole, Kemp, Ford, and even Reagan populated the ranks of the GOP. Those were true Republicans, not the rabble calling the shots inside the GOP today, who are nothing but buffoons.

[BUDDAWG2004]

I have to take a serious scozzafava

[VinceP1974]

This woman is incoherent. She claims shes for Republican issues and yet she endorsed the Democrat.

[BigBoss1991]

This just goes to show you that There is only one party.... The big government party.

Scozzafava is a republican but then she supports a democrat. But the Conservative was closer to her in terms of ideology. This proves that the two party system is failing and that there is no room for a third party candidate. She didn't explain why she didn't endorse Hoffman when she should have.

No one is falling for the okey-doke.

Fuck all the elites in Washington, Term Limits please.

[karakaraman01]

She sound very thoughtful and in tune to what the people of her district needs.

[VinceP1974]

What I learn from her is that her actions are more important than her words. Her actions betrays whatever nonsense it is that she lets out of her mouth.

[julian7650]

Wake up call, Now you have experienced the nastyness and hypocrisy of your party.

[spooderdoggy]

She supports the Dem after the GOP gave her almost a million dollars.

And people here are shocked that poor Scuzzy was stripped of her leadership role? Shocking!!!

[spooderdoggy]

Whaaaaa, whaaaaaa, whaaaaaa!!

[Richardgwm]

She plans to remain a Republican? I guess that means she never plans on holding public office.

[KataVideo]

@Richardgwn, she plans to remain a republican.. which is kind of like refusing chemotherapy when the doctor offers it for free

[oldtownkid]

With this attitude republicans should not be able to win any election in 2010. Nevertheless, they will become the majority in congress because Democrats will hand it over to them, by means of inaction, by an inability to compromise within the Democratic party, and by an inmature attitude of "all-or-nothing" seen in both exremes of the Democratic party. The healthcare bill will die in the senate, same fate awaits financial reform and climate change legislation. Our future is bad, no matter what

[moregravyplease]

Both parties will have gains AND losses in the next election, but the Dems will gain a greater majority.

With the Republicans more factionalised than ever, the Dems' seeming disunity is actually a GOOD thing because it shows our party is thoughtful in giving consideration while debating ideas, as opposed to the lock-step, "all-or-nothing" extreme of the Republicans when they're the majority party.

Health insurance reform will pass, and the public option will be called "Medicare Part E".

[oldtownkid]

Denial won't help, wishful thinking won't help, Senators Lieberman, Nelson, Lincoln, Landrieu, and definately not voting for any bill with a public option, Senators Bayh, Baucus and Conrad also may end up opposing it, and on the other hand if there's no public option then you have Burris and Sanders both have pledged to vote against a bill without a public option. Do the math, it fails either way.

[moregravyplease]

Speaking of all-or-nothing extremes, your complaint of Dem 'inaction' is laughable. Most 'Republicans' will tell you Congress and President Obama are systematically destroying America, smashing capitalism, and even paneling grandma to death! Yet you would have us believe Dems have accomplished nothing in the last 10 months.

Dems have passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, SCHIP re-authorisation, Hate Crimes legislation, and the Credit CARD Act; next is health insurance reform, possibly ENDA!

[oldtownkid]

I agree with you on the accomplishments achieved thus far by the Obama administration, but in politics these small accomplishments are quickly taken for granted and people demand more visible wins. Just look at what some Obama supportes have been saying about him lately,two examples are Ed Schultz and Rachel Maddow, and listen to people everywhere. The perception is that since change has not magically happened overnight people have been let down, pessimism sells and that's the story now.

[moregravyplease]

oldtownkid:"The perception ... change has not ... happened overnight, people have been let down ... pessimism sells that's the story now"

Inspiring pessimism has been the Republican strategy since the election of Barack Obama as POTUS (remember the 'voter's remorse' meme?').

The Republicans ALWAYS try to 'define' the Dems. Who cares? The REAL story is that Republicans are IRRELEVANT to a great extent in these debates. The Dems are playing smart, and we're getting the ball downfield, surely.

[oldtownkid]

...and because of most people not understanding that the pace of those giant changes may be slower than ordering a big mac, if progressives don't get a public option in the bill, regardless of the actual effectiveness of a watered-down public "option", they won't be satisfied, and if those 7 or more conservative leaning Senators don't get a bill without a public option, the bill will fail and the GOP will be able to define the Democrats and the rest is history.

[oldtownkid]

What republicans say about Obama righthis point is irrelevant (it will be relevant if Dems don't pass healthcare and financial reform but for now it is irrelevant), when I talk about inaction I'm refering to how willing are some in the Democratic party to let this opportunity to pass meaningful healthcare reform, just because they won't get a public option that is not as effective as it has originally been designed to be. The trigger option is probably the only path to healthcare reform now.

[Waranle]

I love this woman lol. Fuck you all conservative nuts ;), the only republican that you can see today is bunch of white hood conservative retarded motherfuckers.

[MooseOfReason]

TPM keeps getting rid of all the good clips.

Lol. I subscribed a while back, when Josh was doing vlogs almost every day.  They got rid of those. And then they got rid of the "Day in 100 seconds" videos.

[jshooper]

fuckin dumbass...how are you gunna ask the namesake (scozzafava) what it's like to be scozzafava-ed....you can't ask her you clown....ur supposed to ask other people who will eventually get treated like her

[KataVideo]

the anchor is a lightweight, even for cnn

[Bear5177]

After hearing some of the attacks against her from her own party, I feel that she's being extremely reserved and much too civil in her criticisms toward the Republican party and how that election was handled.

[KataVideo]

Whoa whoa whoa john roberts.. the "war with her party" was touched off by scarah palin and glendora beck, when they endorsed that homely child molesty-looking guy..

soczzafava did NOT start the "war". what shitty writing. what shitty producer, what shitty anchoring. three levels failed to correct this very obvious falsehood.

I guess john roberts is just another right-wing CLOWN

[WKaliberr]

all Palin does is spawn whores and retards

literally

[jamesmaseobrown]

This lady sounds very level headed. No wonder they attacked her. Republicans are turning into hard core ideologs. They don't care about the needs of their districts, just the party line and ideology. They treat politics like religion.

[wildpeachatl737]

It is a religious agenda that the conservatives have been promoting and using the GOP to spread their ideology for the past 30 years or so.

I don't know if you remember Anita Bryant, but that seems to be the beginning; the rise of Ralph Reed, Timothy LaFaye, Jerry Falwell and the rest of that faction were slowly bringing us toward being a theocracy in America.

[KataVideo]

I understand why some people are calling the irrational right "ideologues". however, to an an "ideologue", one has to have an idea to start with, and what's clear about this is that the teabaggers, deathers, birthers, etc., is that they start with fear, racism, conspiracy theories and general anti-social negativity. no "ideas" involved.

[SkyDaddy7]

KataVideo you hit the nail right on the head! The GOP/Conservatives/Tea Baggers are a bunch of intellectually bankrupt folks who only have religion & fear as a message. If they were not such a disgusting threat to what America is suppose to be about I might feel sorry for them...These people are extremely weak minded & can be led to believe anything! This is what makes them so scary! They will believe anything FOX & Talk Radio tell them & eventually something bad is going to happen!

[asphyxiafeeling]

Ding Ding! You just hit it on the head too!

[theastrusmega]

John Mccain did this to the Republican Party.

He brought that airhead Palin to the forefront and now shes going to be the poison that ultimately destroys the Republican party.

GJ John.

[UNDERTAKER2525]

why is this woman, an educated reasonable person at least from this conversation it seems, tossed out of her party. while deather/creationist/homophobe sarah palin the bright star. I must say to any of you reasonable republicans left, please take your party back from the jesus freaks, they're making america look stupid

[dogstar7]

Nice to meet a real Republican for a change. She sounds reasonable and informed. No wonder the Flying Monkeys of the Conservative Right Wing attacked her....and her little dog, too!

[superiorgreen]

As a conservative Christian I have had to reject the Republican party. They have been taken, and no longer represent what they did 20 years ago. Who decided to turn the stars upside down, 3 Satanic pentagrams on the elephant logo? It was done on purpose, but why? I do know Satan loves death, war, deception, fraud, and ........ secrecy. Who else but the party of Satan, would prevent the investigation of 9/11 until AFTER we invaded 2 countries? Palin worships money, not GOD.

[1samothrace77]

they screwed her over then asked her to be nice about it.

staying a republican seems like a waste of time.

[mpost81]

Fuck this fat nasty bitch, hope she drops off of the planet!

[SkyDaddy7]

Spoken like true Conservative Christian! You represent the current state of the Republican/Conservative Party VERY WELL!

America is very complex country with many diverse views and the GOP/Conservatives are fighting a losing battle!

[mpost81]

Hey libtard, I'm a political atheist who believes G.W. and crew should be charged for war crimes ASAP! I also see "your" guy is a complete and total disgrace as well, He should be impeached now.

[KataVideo]

no mpost81, you're not a "political atheist", you're a little cunt trying to get some attention while hiding behind mommy's internet connection. lmfao,everyone sees right through you.

[KataVideo]

keep selling those wolf tickets markie post... keep believing that. set yourself up for a most unpleasant surprise so that I can laugh at you even header than I am laughing at you now

[KataVideo]

harder

[LifeinaRaindrop]

Fuck this nasty user mpost81, I hope his computer drops out a 3 story window.

[mpost81]

Did I hurt your fragile sensibilities? libtard, you must be a smelly dirty tree hugging hippie cry me a river fucktard.

[laleeloolelo]

An obvious troll shouldn't be too obvious.

[TheRamenAvenger]

mpost81, People like you have been greatly responsible for fracturing the Republican party until it's become an irrelevant sideshow. With people like you around the GOP will never come into power again. So on behalf of the sane people of the USA... thank you!!!!!

[mpost81]

Perhaps you should read my earlier comment. I could give two shit less about the republicunt or democunt parties. BTW if you believe the libtards are going to retain control you are fooling yourself. Obama is a failure and your leadership is a joke.

[TheRamenAvenger]

Whether you like it or not, you're helping the Democrats. I like that!!!

And let's face it, we both know that you're just another Republican stooge in denial. I know it. You know it. Everyone who reads your posts knows it. You can lie if you want to, but reality remains unchanged! :)

[LifeinaRaindrop]

Fragile sensibilities? It's not like I was offended by your post, you just sound like an idiot and easy picking for anyone of intelligentsia. Now go back to hick country and fuck your dogs - shop at walmart and listen to your fringewing elitists tell you that the world is falling apart cause of one man in a seat of power. Your dogmatic partisanship will cause you more stress and strain on your life than I ever could fucktard, thereby ending your life too soon for social security.

[fishhead06]

Trolltastic, mpost! Enjoy the attention whoring.

[snipzor]

Homo-lover?! Child killer?!

What is wrong with the current republican leadership? Do they want to lose horribly?

[KataVideo]

@snipzor

gingrich, boehner, pataki all endorsed this woman. then the foamy-mouthed crazies attacked and *someone* had to have put money into the 'conservative party' candidate. who did it? one of the deep pockets of the crazy right.. koch? scaife?

when glendora beck and scarah failin endorsed that other guy, they didn't act on their own, they acted as the knives that stabbed gingrich, boehner, pataki in the back, and killed scozzafava's political career.

HA! I hope they eat each other!!!

[snipzor]

@KataVideo

I doubt they will ever bring it up with each other. You know the rules Kata, hypocrisy in the republican party is ignored by republicans.

I just hope that Scozzafava will be okay at the end of this, I mean the right-wing is out of their mind, and they'll think that their loss is all her fault.

[KataVideo]

@snipzor, it seems that in the palin-era, hypocrisy isn't merely tolerated, it's encouraged

[LeGioNoFZioN]

this woman is the republican Joe Lieberman

[SkyDaddy7]

Not at all...This women realizes the Republican Party is dying by trying to hold onto bigoted ideas that do nothing to better our nation. Joe is simply lost and looking to stay in the media.

[LeGioNoFZioN]

you say that but I see two individuals who want to change the direction of their parties. its helps to be an outsider, as a Canuck I have a less biased POV.

[1samothrace77]

joe lieberman was not screwed over by the democratic party. he has been doing the screwing over.

[LeGioNoFZioN]

I humbly disagree, he disagreed with his leadership and so does scozza

[snarkwaupaca]

Disagreeing with your leadership means you don't voute for a bill, Screwing over yor party is joining in a filibuster from the other side. Joe better enjoy is position as chair of a couple committees because he might lose them if he keeps it up.

[KataVideo]

joe lieberman has always been the "republican joe lieberman"

[LeGioNoFZioN]

I understand your point, despite clinging to the label Joe Lieberman was never truly a democrat because he didn't hold to the same ideology as most other democrats, just like Scozzafava is not really a republican for the same reasons.

[fishhead06]

In your opinion, was Nelson Rockefeller also the "Republican Joe Lieberman"? The American political parties have historically had broad spectrums, and in the northeast, liberal and moderate Republicans are not - or at least WERE not - uncommon.

[LeGioNoFZioN]

If American political parties are supposed to have broad spectrums of ideologies then why is Joe Lieberman not thought of as a Democrat ?

Im arguing a point here to its logical conclusion. Its not a point of view I hold personally, but I'm interested in learning from AMericans how they think about all of this.

[fishhead06]

It's fortuitous that the word "disingenuous" appears in the title. In the Lieberman case, the matter is complicated by regionalism. Conservative Democrats are tolerated by the progressive wing in areas in which the alternative would be a Republican (e.g., the south, parts of the midwest); but not in turf considered safely progressive. There was also Lieberman's vocal embrace of Bush's policies led to the estrangement. As an observer of US politics, you should know these dynamics.

[LeGioNoFZioN]

so then republicans should tolerate Soczzafava in new york but shouldn't support someone like her in Alabama ? doesn't sound very ethical to me. Lieberman supported bush policies and Scozzafava supported Obamas, sound identical to me. But correct me if I am wrong but isn't Owens who won a blue dog ? so that area couldn't be as progressive as common wisdom assumes. What I see is hypocrisy but I am willing to hear arguments to prove otherwise.

[snarkwaupaca]

hypocrisy or pragmatism. Dems went through purity purges in the 70's and 80's. Republicans are doing it now. It will likely leave them with a strong united core but only a minority.

[LeGioNoFZioN]

maybe hypocrisy and pragmatism are not mutually exclusive concepts in this case, perhaps one heralds the other ?

thank you for your lack of partisan demagoguery in response

[snarkwaupaca]

Ronald Reagan said it best: Thou shall not speak ill of another Republican.

It worked for a long time until the serious right wing ideologues starting running the party.

[LeGioNoFZioN]

again thanks

[DjWhooCares]

hes more of a disease in the political spectrum