the intellect have all power over the uneducated as they will design ways to trick people.for personal gain the western highly intelligent mind should not be under estimated or even compared in any way to these 3rd world country's, information is far to vast to still believe in nonsense. if you have problems watch the blind watch maker from richerd dawkins and you will no strait away the truth
they gave them the glorious quran told them to pray with there eyes closed. and when they woke up the British stole there oil and the Muslims realised they were fooled and the quran was rubbish.
The scientific facts he talks about in most of his debates were in fact in existence a long time ago,before the prophet. Check wikipedia about the dates of existence of the various theories about the moon,earth etc. These theories were not widespread because there was no medium of sharing information on a large scale then between people and other scholars. Prophet was a trader & he went places & collected those theories and recited them to his people.
....(read previous comment) choice, because the principles of evolution are there. One question I will pose to people is: If Allah went through the process of the big bang, why wouldn't he go through the process of evolution? No matter what, the Quran is undoubtedly the divine book given to the prophet muhammad (SAW) from god, its proven with science and upheld with philosophy, people put a veil over there brains to ignore and make any excuse, to go on with there lives and not give up desires.
@ThaLuqmonster The scientific facts he talks about in most of his debates were in fact in existence a long time ago,before the prophet. Check wikipedia about the dates of existence of the various theories about the moon,earth etc. These theories were not widespread because there was no medium of sharing information on a large scale then between people and other scholars. Prophet was a trader & he went places & collected those theories and recited them to his people.
...(read previous comment) man in the quran, like how it walked very upright and his joints were strengthened. It is also mentioned that they are blood shedders and mischief makers, all the points that i made so far are true, the quran also mentions that if we look throughout the earth we will see the remains of our previous generations. In conclusion, all the principles of evolution are stated very, and i mean very clearly in the quran, but whether you believe its evolution or not is your .....
Heres the dilemma, some scholars believe that evolution is in the quran, some believe that it isn't, but all scholars agree on a couple of things regarding evolution in the quran. The quran states many scientific statements regarding the creation of man, like how man is made from water and an extract of clay, and so on. Some quranic verses talk about mans previous generations, some people believe that after the neanderthal man, then Adam was put on earth. Because god describes the neanderthal..
@aaqucnaona94 because we have to respect all the prophets of Allah every time we speak of their names. that its self is a good deed. so it means more points.
@dbaig187 The scientific facts he talks about in most of his debates were in fact in existence a long time ago,before the prophet. Check wikipedia about the dates of existence of the various theories about the moon,earth etc. These theories were not widespread because there was no medium of sharing information on a large scale then between people and other scholars. Prophet was a trader & he went places & collected those theories and recited them to his people.
Evolution isn't exist, adaptation that exists, looks at us for example, when its snowing very badly, we adapt to the changes, we bust out our massive coats and gloves, evolution is just a non sensicle term for 1 creature turning into a complete different creature with say 1 or 2 differences when in fact they are the same creature just adapting into a different environment.
You adapt to survive. Whomever is better at adapting is the one that gets to pass its genes on to the next generation on account of the one who doesn't adapt ends up dying. Otherwise known as natural selection which is a key mechanism of evolution.
Allah mentioned the signs so people would think about them and bout life and how perfect the circle of life and existence really is, so we could come to the conclusion and only answer there is, that Allah Most High created all of this, and Allah knows best.
@aeo45bneop34qer waaaaaaaaaaa>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! r u a scientist.? U have not to teach us evolution. and if dont know about him, dont comment without knowing.
do u know who Dr.Zakir Naik. he is a great man who challenge ur POPE. but ur pope became afraid. he did'nt agree. [ that was open challenge] understand....????
@bulldogzrep With all the respect to you sir. I agree 100% with you that atheists are....well....diverted from pure reality. But don't you think that if u wud have not used 'idiots' and 'bullshit', u wud have gotten the same message across. Please try to be moderate because when non-muslims use indecent language for us muslims, none other than WE are to blame. Hope you got the point brother.
@Funwinxpixee Alhumdulillah brother you are completely correct, I wrote that comment in a time of frustration at these people, but it is said that the strong one controls his anger, thank you brother, Jazak Allah Khair
The Bucailleism bull crap you refer to is more a product of cognitive biases applied to vague and metaphoric passages open to interpretation. And it has been dismissed, even by Muslims: beyondbucailleism.php
LOL...//Science has proven to be the most unreliable source of knowledge//
That is funny because without science, we would not be even having this conversation on the internet. Without science, we would still live in the dark ages. And what do you think is a better source? Religious knowledge? Religious epistemology has never granted anyone one iota of unknowable knowledge AT ALL.
Brilliant and free minds of the 20th and 21st century question the 'validity' of this very concept and resultantly more talks and articles are coming out in "defence" of the concept as it contradicts with the reality. If the idea of "God" was realistic as it was romantic, no questioning of its existence will surface as it'd be relevant to one an all. Un-created equates to non-existent. I'm happy with that. God is non-existent. It's only a concept that many were smitten by it in ancient times.
God created the world & its creatures. Incredible concept. In reality, though, who created "God"? Another thought provoking concept is the reason humans experience suffering. Mostly explains that in order for us to surpass the miseries in this world and develop courage and so on, suffering became part of human life. If so, why the beings need to experience sufferings, hence "God" him/herself could have eradicated all sufferings have everyone in "heaven" without making us suffer. Bewildering!
Haha, "Islam has been since the first man set his foot on the Earth"??? Who's "the first man", when would they say our species' members were "men"? 200 000 years ago, 100 000 years ago? Human and hominid evolution has been a very slow and very gradual process, so I wonder how you determine when the "first man/human" was born? Was it "the first homo sapiens sapiens, or just sapien? Or Heidelbergensis, antecessor..or maybe even erectus? Haha, science/reality is a bitch, isn't it? Shove your Allah!
The non-muslims r always reading Quran to find mistakes in it but how dumbass they r to ignore the fact and beauty of it they judge 1bad muslim and blame the whole muslims how cheap and ignorant they r
@mateen2007 This is the TRUTH. quran demands muslims to kill.Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.” (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57). You must be ignorant to have faith in a religion and a man that teaches to kill in the name of GOD(ALLAH).muhamad's way was and still is"ISLEM TESLIM."By the Sword. Read sura 9:29 “Slay the idolators [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them, Muslim’s make every effort to suppress any who claim to follow the Bible. Check your quran
stated in (Quran, 25:53): it dooesnt say they DONT mix, there is a barrier.
here is your simplifies scientific answer: Science has discovered that in estuaries, where fresh and salt water meet, It has been discovered that what distinguishes fresh water from salt water in estuaries is a “pycnocline zone with a marked density discontinuity separating the two layers. This partition (zone of separation) has a different salinity from the fresh water and from the salt waters"
The guy asking the question is an idiot and yes I'm a srilankan, he could have brought up the fact that the quran states that the earth is flat and it encourages wife beatings, or the death penalty for apostasy, evolution is a FACT there is proof of evolution Dr Zakir is an ass hole I really wish dichard dawkins was here the PWN the hell out of this bullshit spewer, I firmly believe that Islam is the worst religion in the world!
Its good being skeptic n all but pointing out faults on others (religions especially) does not make u any good at all. U might say what dis guy says are bullshit, It may or may not b a bullshit. Mayb his understanding of Islam is different from non muslims. The same way a Pope's understanding of Chistian is different from the non christians etc.
It depends on how u view things. A simple example is the difference between the east n west in believing spiritual stuffs.
@KaGe9009 The west may believe in spiritual stuffs IF it can be proven by science on the other hand, the east, like china n japan, they believe in spiritual stuffs without science facts like qigong, guardian spirits n so on.
@okenath123 do u think by memorizing text and fooling billions of people in this world? is it possible? think again and again.
People who have done research on right direction have reached right path. It is your responsibility to identify the true god and worship him before your death, otherwise immediate after death you will come to know but time is up no second chance.
if you don't want, keep away from islam, we are not going to loose anything, but you r. I wish god put in right direction.
Yeah, until you start doing your own proper research (Which very few Muslims do), however, here is a short cut to know how great Dr.Naik is; look it up for "The Earth's geoid shape - Exposing Dr Zakir Naik (Oxford university)" and you will see just a bit of his true colors.
@77alabama77 i coulden't help but read that you were an Ex-Muslim, but you know, Dr, Naik isn't the only one who said that by the way other scholers and scientists also said that. if you can't accept all the scientific facts in the qur'an, then you truely need do the research your self, not every one can understand the qur'an unless you are well educated in arabic and in science.
@77alabama77 but it's just eating you away to see someone who is showing the truth about islam isn't it, that it's the perfect religion, and please don't bother your self with telling me that your were a "good muslim" and you were a "scholer" because that one is getting real old, oh i saw your little video about the "Miracles of the Qur'an" and how you were trying to prove it wrong, it's just pointless. it made no sense what so ever, because as far as i know more scientests see those facts ===>
@77alabama77 and they realise that the Qur'an is truely the word of God almighty, your video is only good for the weak minded. oh and don't worry, i'm not bothered because you're an "Ex-Muslim" because as far as i know you are the one who lost, not islam, also people who aren't muslims but are better than you, better even than i'm enter islam every day as god promised he will bring people whome he will love and they will love him.
@77alabama77 so, weither you accept that the Scientific miracles in the Qur'an is true or not, that is your own opinion, and that changes nothing about the fact is that the Qur'an does contain it, and like i did say, alot of scientists did admit it, and they reverted to islam. so, i don't really think what you think really means any thing but to your self. don't get me wrong, i mean no disrespect to you, but calling the Qur'an rubbish is something that i won't tolerate. end of discussion.
2- yea is saw it, and no i don't believe he was "exposed" as he says it.
3- you can't, because you will never be able to do so, the Qur'an was sent as a challange to every one in this world, including muslims. and someone as weak minded as you are will always use curses against something you aren't able to comprehend.
Re.1. Ok so it seems when u said "a lot of scientists did admit it" your comment was not based on a research of your own or of an organization. (If your logic the yard stick, do a search on how many scientists believe in the Bible.)
Watched all 3 clips and wonder what they would have told if they knew what the Quran really says and not want the translations they saw says and wonder what they will say after seeing the following clips:
Re.3. U say I can't do it. NO NO NO, I say, YOU CAN DO IT.
Here is how YOU can do it.
1. Look at the u tube clips uploaded by CEMBadmins & StopSpamming1 .
2. Do your own research on what CEMBadmins & StopSpamming1 have to say. (This means, u have to do your OWN research and not to depend on Zakir Naik or the English Translations. Do your own translations on the key words and see if Quran rally says what it says or if the meanings are stretched to match the reality.
@77alabama77 lol, i got you angry, 5 points for me. well, i don't need to translate, because i'm arabic, and i understand the quran even more than you can ever think, i'm not a scholer, but i know enough that makes me believe that the qur'an is the word of god, and you don't seem to understand, again i say, if scientists and priesthood people from all over the world and from lots of believes admit that the Qur'an is the true word of god, i won't listen to a common person. however ====>
3. Since you know Arabic, could u please give meaning for the word thumma or summa (4th letter in Arabic and the letter meem = ثم)
4. Since I have proved that I have not given u misinformation about Eratosthenes, why don't you check out links I gave you. (Unless you are afraid of the truth over taking your faith in Islam.)
ثم meens then, 2nd i read about him in wikipedia, no where it said that he discovered that the earth was round, it said that he discovered the world was not flat. 3rd, Dr, Naik isn't perfect, so weither it was Sir. Drake, Abo- Alhasan or Ferdinand, still does't prove that the Qur'an is wrong. and no actually, you aint taking islam faith from me, you are helping me to educate my self even more, which i'm thankful to you about it. so again, you fail
1. Pls confirm that u r not going to say that ثم has another meaning later. If it has, tell them now.
2-a. If Eratosthenes discovered that the world was not flat, then what is the obvious next words after "it is NOT FLAT"?
2-b. Wikipedia and many more sources say "Eratosthenes was the first person to calculate the circumference of the earth". in order to know in detail what he really did, have a look at the following clip from 4:30 on wards: watch?v=m6LY0uAUVic
2-c. As u said, if Eratosthenes said the earth is not flat and many sources say that he calculate the circumference of the earth, now what is the shape of the earth according to Eratosthenes?
3. Yes, Zakir being wrong can not mean the Quran is wrong. Quran has to be checked on it's own. This is why I told u to do your own research and not depend on what other people have to say about the science in the Quran. U CHECK ON YOUR OWN WHAT SCIENCE SAYS & WHAT QURAN REALLY SAYS.
@77alabama77 kaheel7(dot)com/eng/ go and read from that site, and again i say i have read about Eratos (again) true that he was the first to measure the circumference of the earth, but still, no records of him showing that he discovered that the earth is round. and lets for account say that Eratos did by some chance discover it, he will even provide more proof of the truth in the qur'an. but again i say no records of showing he discovered that the earth was round.
@ryudooo also, i'm not a scientist, in the qur'an Allah said "اسألوا أهل الذكر" and of course if you were a muslim you would understand what it would mean, but i'll translate "Ask those Who Know" or "Ask the people of Knowledge" and that goes to science, religion, etc..
if you want to know more about the word ثم then go check in the internet (from reliable arabic sites).
1. Did you see the meaning of "circumference". If yes now you know that Eratosthenes confirmed the shape of the earth to the world before Quran and it is not a miracles as Zakir claims, and this what is meant by ZAKIR WAS DEBUNKED or EXPOSED.
2. U said u know Arabic. Confirm the meanings for ثم coz u might bring fabricated meanings once I tell u my point. Or, what did people during the revelation of the Quran understand ثم to be? (If u want to know where to find it, I can help u)
@77alabama77 1- have been reading about it the earth and who discovered it and all, and again i say if Eratos did discover this, that doesen't mean the Qur'an is wrong, infact, his theory proves the Qur'an right, and to further more prove the qur'an is right, Arabian scientists further proved about the truth of the Qur'an, the shape of the earth and how they measured it as well. and it's funny how you are trying to "expose" Dr. Naik, doesen't really matter who discovered it ====>
@77alabama77 what matters is that it doesen't prove the Qur'an in any way wrong.
2- Yes i know Arabic because i'm an Arabian person, i will confirm to you about the meanings of this word in the Qur'an after i check with a few Qur'an scholers, because even Arabic in the Qur'an is deeper than the Arabic we know now (which is slang arabic) but, just this thing in my mind all of that time, why are you trying with me instead of the one who you are trying to "DEBUNK" who is Dr. Naik?
Ok, since u agree that Eratosthenes, the point here was not about the Quran being wrong. Remember, u said that Zakir was not debunked and that is where this started and now it ends.
About the Quran, good to know that u r an Arab. Once u confirm the meaning, I will talk to you about it.
By the way, u being an Arab, u have to confirm with Qur'anic scholars. I wonder how the Quran can stand the claim that is clear and it is for the entire mankind of all times. Any way,,,, Cheers.
@77alabama77 it did for more than 1400 years, and it will keep on doing so, again i ask, why did you not debate a scholer such as Dr. Naik. u still didn't answer me, are you afraid he will debunk you instead? :)
I never claimed that I can debate Zakir. For his standard, he may debunk me 100 times but if I debunk him in even 1 matter, he is lost & I did so in the shape of the earth & THERE R FEW MORE to come.
If you can arrange a debate, I know an Arab with an open challenge to ANY MUSLIM.
He has just published a book "Deception of Allah" in which he has some stupid claims & also great points. As u may agree, if any one can find 1 mistake in the Quran, QURAN IS GONE, it will be like the Bible.
@77alabama77 1- I agree on 1 thing, if you find, that is if there is one, mistake in the Qur'an than it's a false book, but trust me on this, no one, and i truely mean no one will ever find a mistake in the Qur'an, not you, not your friend, nor any one no matter how smart he is, cause there will be an answer to every one of you. one other thing, u said that if you debunk him once (Dr. Naik) he is lost, i still don't understand how did u or any one debunk him yet=====>
@77alabama77 this whole earth is round thing and who discovered it is in argue between every one in this world, dude if u want to debunk him, prove him wrong on something scientific or religious, not on who discovered this and who discovered that. it doesen't really matter who discovered what.
what you are trying to prove is useless mate. i don't know if you are an athiest or a christian or whatever belief you follow. but i know for sure, you were not a Muslim.
@77alabama77 you know what, i have a site about scientific fact written in the qur'an and proven real, i have read them, and they increased my faith, Islam is about logic and knowledge, so please try something else.
@77alabama77 I'v read about this Eratosthenes, he did not discover the world was round, so cut the bull and stop getting misinformation. the first person who discovered that the world was round is a man by the name of Abo Al-Hasan ASsoufi, or Ferdinand Magellan. not sure who of those two. and that was after the time of the Qur'an. so please, try that on someone else. but because of that lie, i'm not going to take your words for granted, so don't bother me any more with non-sense
1. Seems like u know better than Zakir. If it was Abo Al-Hasan or F.Magellan, Zakir is wrong to say that it was F.Drake.
2. Yes, F.Magellan was the first to circumnavigate the Earth and Eratosthenes was not the first to go around the earth, but he told the shape of the earth and he also measurement of the size of Earth.
Before u say no again on Eratosthenes, have a look at Britannica, Wikipedia or any proper source.
Even assuming that Quran is 100% correct scientifically, that does not prove it is voice of God. There have been thousands of scientists from time immemorial who have written thousands of theories, some correct some wrong.That does not make them messengers.This guy seems to be put there for advertising Zakir.He is trying hard to conceal his smile, but he can't.Foolish gimmick.
@HummadJ Dude, the guy is a 'plant' like the ones used in magic shows and entertainment wrestling. He received a nice paycheck for the gimmick.
Don't talk about about probabilty, since you obviously have to add enormous amounts of imagination to make Quran sound scientific. There are very few 'theories' in the book with hardly any being correct. Take it to any high school student and he could point them out to you. But its your belief, I won't stop you from believing.
@HummadJ You do :) "I made the earth and sky as one, then I took them apart". Zakir says this is big bang theory!!!! LOL To draw that parallel, requires LOTSSSS of imagination. Don't expect me to explain why, its kid stuff. And that 'shit' you mentioned is what is written in Quran, please don't talk about religious text in this degrading language.
@lokenath123 my brother come with a factual statement we il debate, rolling your eyes away from the truth will lead you straight to hell, tomorrow whn u die when Allah asks you y did u die a non muslim you cannot say that we did not covey the message of Allah to you so open up your eyes thanks
@kiraa12 I quoted Zakir himself, that is a fact! And talking of fact, read your previous comment, is there a SINGLE fact? Quran says "I made the earth and sky as one and then parted them" - you say that is Big Bang Theory :) FYI, there is nothing called 'sky' in science. You can say you believe in Quran, no issues, you CAN believe in what you want, without harming me. But don't fool yourself by declaring it is 100% scientific, as it is not even close to a scientific book. Ask any schoolgoer.
yea i agreed with you,im a muslim,but he came to be really scared of zakir's talking and just say yes,but i belive he truly be a good muslim after that:}
"you have to believe in the messenger of that time" who is the messenger of our time then? Muhammad died 1400 years ago...how can we follow him when he lived at that time? In a time where muslims were told that they could have sex with slave without marrying them. So theoretically, I could take my girlfriend, buy her as my slave, and then we can have sex according to Islam...to conclude, this prophet is NOT for our time. God should have sent another=not complete religion.
Islam means submitting your will to God, so no matter how you called it, and how they called themself, they basically said they submit to God. Thus they were muslims. The word itself can be in many languages, but the essence is the same. And even in hebrew the similarity would have been there, since Islam comes from the root word SLM, which is also Salam, and in hebrew SHALOM.
@zeroempires1 again please before you make comments, from one brother of mankind to another just read the translation of those same topics of embryology astrology and anatomy and compare them to any aztec or ancient book.
@WongOmowale lol don't be so ignorant ofcourse no one CAME out saying this is ISLAM or we are muslims, that's the name given to the people off the quran that came down to the last messenger (pbuh) after jesus (pbuh).
The earth's crust consists of a number of moving pieces or plates, that are always colliding or pulling apart. The Lithosphere consists of nine large plates and twelve smaller ones. The continents are imbedded in continental plates; the oceanic plates make up much of the sea floor. The study of Tectonic plates -
The earth's crust consists of a number of moving pieces or plates, that are always colliding or pulling apart. The Lithosphere consists of nine large plates and twelve smaller ones. The continents are imbedded in continental plates; the oceanic plates make up much of the sea floor. The study of Tectonic plates - called plate tectonics - helps to explain continental drift, the spreading of the sea floor, volcanic eruptions and how mountains are formed. The force that causes the m
The earth's crust consists of a number of moving pieces or plates, that are always colliding or pulling apart. The Lithosphere consists of nine large plates and twelve smaller ones. The continents are imbedded in continental plates; the oceanic plates make up much of the sea floor. The study of Tectonic plates - called plate tectonics - helps to explain continental drift, the spreading of the sea floor, volcanic eruptions and how mountains are formed. The force that causes the m
The earth's crust consists of a number of moving pieces or plates, that are always colliding or pulling apart. The Lithosphere consists of nine large plates and twelve smaller ones. The continents are imbedded in continental plates; the oceanic plates make up much of the sea floor. The study of Tectonic plates - called plate tectonics - helps to explain continental drift, the spreading of the sea floor, volcanic eruptions and how mountains are formed.
Hahaha this is hilarious. Unfortunately for him, he never had a chance to understand Islam. Maybe he did it just for the hell of it or maybe this was staged. Nobody accepts a religion in 8 minutes. Unfortunately for him, if he wasn't serious about accepting Islam, he is in trouble now because the penalty for apostasy is merciless death in Islam.
@geniusjas87 where did you hear that? -___- don't make up weird rules about a religion which you clearly don't know about. Before accepting islam, a nonbeliever is asked "are you forced to convert to Islam", "is anyone pressurizing you?" before he is allowed to enter islam. Converting to this one and true religion requires true will.
@MrHappytaffy "where did you hear that"? that apostasy is punishable by death in Islam? This shows how little you know about Islam. Yet you're ready to defend it. And no, they don't ask "are you forced to convert to Islam", "is anyone pressurizing you?" I know Muslims have a tendency to lie or make things up when defending Islam. But you can't lie or make things up with me, because I'm a former Muslim myself. I've been a Muslim for 23 years and I used to talk exactly like you.
@geniusjas87 There's no mention about such rule in any of Muhammad's (pbuh) hadiths or the Quran. Research the sharia law you'll get what i mean. Bible however approves of death penalty for apostasy, AFTER it was changed for like the millionth time. Read a 50 year old bible (13:6-9) and a recent one. Then read a 1000 year old Quran and read a recent one. You shall notice the difference. I pity you being a former muslim, may Allah have mercy on you. Allah is The Most-Merciful. Allahu akbar.
@MrHappytaffy So apostates may not be killed if they don't speak against Islam? But an apostate is bound to speak against Islam when asked why he rejected his/her faith. Therefore killed. The reason Islam doesn't want apostates to live is because of the fear of spreading the truth about how Islamic laws are violent and destructive. Islam has defence mechanisms. And it's very evident and made very clear, specially in certain Muslim countries that blasphemers and apostates should be killed.
@MrHappytaffy Yes, the Bible is also extremely violent if you read the Old Testament. But Christians claim that after Jesus was cruicified, all human sins were forgiven and those violent rules needn't be followed. Ofcourse that's a fallacy yet Christians don't accept it.
But do you ever ask yourself why is Islam so fearful of criticism? Only when someone is lying will fear investigation right? I'm sure since you didn't know the apostasy rule, you don't even read the Quran.
@MrHappytaffy Yet here you are defending it. Find out the truth about religion my friend. Religion is a lie and the God idea is fabricated. There is no God, no heaven or hell, no afterlife. The reason you believe these things is because you were indoctrinated at a very young age with these false ideas. It's difficult for you to give up this idea. You can varify for youself how flawed the God idea is and the errors in the Quran. Just read it yourself with an open mind.
@MrHappytaffy There are very obvious scientific flaws in the Quran but but some scholars try to bend the facts in their favor to support their flawed claims. Take for example the flat earth view in the Quran. Some verses 15:19, 20:53, 43:10, 50:7, 51:4, 71:19, 78:6, 79:30 indicates that the earth is flat, saying "We have spread out the earth like a bed/carpet for you"
Other verses say sun and moon revolve around earth 21:33, 2:258, 20:130
@geniusjas87 There are INNOCENT people killed without reason everyday. If he is any other relgion hes a killer, if he's a muslim you make him a terrorist wtf? You cannot just point out these specific flaws just because they have a relation with muslims, and most of these CRIMES were committed and called an act of islam. News and the media are manipulative. They can turn a hero into a villain, a villain into a hero, in my case, turn a religion of peace into a blind cause of mass murder.
@geniusjas87 in Iraq for example, the country was being bombed by the US, the US soldiers spared no children even. US had guns, MOST people of iraq carried stones as weapons as they were seized of everything! Only a few iraq people who managed to obtain guns and raged in vengeance, yelling crazily, only THOSE people were showed by the media. What will it make people think? That muslims are terrorists? What about Bush? isnt what he did an act of terrorism if you think of facts and not the media?
@MrHappytaffy You can't bring war into this. The Iraq war was not related to religion, it was for monetary benifit regardless of what american leaders say. Bush is the biggest piece of shit and if I could kill anyone and get away with it, I would kill him. Although he's not a threat anymore.
Religion is different, it kills people for no good reason. People like Bush can be questioned. But religion cannot be criticized. Inspite of these horrible acts. Do you really support these acts by Islam?
@MrHappytaffy The only reason you would support this sick acts condoned by religion is because you think God is real. But have you have to understand that the God concept is made up. The religious books are written by bronze age men and it's THEIR rules written in the scriptures. The God concept was just a way to explain their existance. Since the beginning of time when people couldn't explain something, they would worship it. Just think about it.
@geniusjas87 DO you want me to prove Existence of God with scientific evidences taken from the Quran? A 1400 year old unaltered book? This books author is God himself, and Muhammad is the Messenger who sent God's words to man. Since you were a muslim before you should know that Muhammad (pbuh) was an illiterate uneducated man like most people of those times. Even the most educated of men would not know of the Big Bang theroy (for example) that time.
@geniusjas87 So if you believe Muhammad tricked us, you are saying an illiterate and uneducated man wrote a book consisting of several scientific facts, most of which was only recently discovered by scientists. Brother, i did think about it, and that is why im a strong believer.
@MrHappytaffy "DO you want me to prove Existence of God with scientific evidences taken from the Quran" sure, lets see you try. The Quran doesn't have any scientific evidence.
It's clearly a book created by multiple authors and those authors were familiar with previous scriptures like the Bible and extracted the stories from there. If you remember the Quran was revealed to Mohammad on the mountain where he often used to go ALONE and he claimed that Allah was talking to him (cont.)
@MrHappytaffy only when he was on the mountain. (Probably have to be closer to the sky because God can't make it down to the ground). Anyway, then he would recite those "revelations" to the PEOPLE WHO WERE WITH HIM (Probably the authors). The truth is, Mohammad didn't write the book neither did God. Mohammad WAS illiterate, but the people who wrote the Quran weren't. And "God" didn't reveal the Quran himself. The revelaions kept coming to Mohammad (whenever he imagined something).
@geniusjas87 "but the people who wrote the Quran weren't." I agree as Quran states that in a few revelations, there were other people with Muhammad and they were educated (so you may think they added info) But what are you trying to say? That they knew every single state of a fetus in mother's womb; The theory of "Big Bang"; Earth is spherical; The moon only reflects light and not a source itself. You are saying people knew about this 1400 years ago? Brother right now you are making me laugh.
@MrHappytaffy "That they knew every single state of a fetus in mother's womb" some scientists discovered it before the Quran but it's an inaccurate description.
"Earth is spherical" Quran never says that. Infact, Quran indicates that the earth is flat 15:19, 20:53, 43:10, 50:7, 51:4, 71:19, 78:6, 79:30
"The moon only reflects light" Nope, it clearly says moon has it's own light. noor = light, not reflection
"Big Bang" not even close
Did you know Quran also says world ends on 2012? lol
@MrHappytaffy The truth is, Quran is written in ancient arabic and it's written in riddles. It's very interpretable. Whatever people find that they can compare it to the real world, they make a big fuss about it. And ofcourse Muslims who have faith don't even bother to check whether or not the claim is right, if it's from Quran, it must be true right?
Do you seriously believe Quran says the world will end in 2012? Do you even believe that the world will end on 2012? Must be if the Quran says it
@MrHappytaffy Do you really think if an almight all knowing and all powerful God existed, he would resort to such a primitive way to communicate with humans? And why would he be so specific to geography? If he wanted the whole world to know, why would he reveal the Quran to only a few arabs? Why would write it in riddles? Why wouldn't he be clear about everything in the book?
Think about it. The "scientific miracles" in the Quran are just how 7th century men saw the world. It's not true.
@MrHappytaffy Even if for a second we accept that all the "Scientific miracles" are true. That it mentions the earth is spherical, and moonlight is reflected, fetus, big bang, 2012 etc.. Think about the things that Quran DOESN'T mention.. It doesn't mention the earth orbiting around the sun (infact, it says that earth is motionless). It doesn't talk about the billions of stars & galaxies. Doens't mention other planets. Doesn't talk about gravity, viruses, germs and tons of other things.
@geniusjas87 These arent miracle these facts even you should admit that. And i only mentioned to you a few of these facts from the Quran. Most of the ones you mentioned now are in fact mentioned in the Quran, as far as my Quran knowledge takes me. However about the Earth orbit thing, the Quran (to my knowledge) does not mention about its orbit, it neither says it moves nor it says its still, so dont jump into conclusions.
@MrHappytaffy Waste money on Zakir, that preacher of hate in the name of communal harmony? Thrown out of three countries for his hate speech. He does not know about Islam, let alone other religions. He memorises text, and thinks himself to be a big scholar.
We can't accept even for a second all the "Scientific miracles" in Quran are true.
The Arabic Quran dose not say that the earth is spherical, or that the moonlight is reflected etc.
New translations are stretched to match the reality. The Arabic Quran ""21:30 heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder"" is talking about the very earth we live in and not about the universe.
@77alabama77 There aren't many ex-muslims.. even on the internet. Most are not outspoken.. A lot of them don't even bother talking about it on the internet. But everytime someone does, it makes me realize I'm not alone. We need a lot more ex-muslim atheists.. Muslims need to be educated of the absurdities of religion. It's funny how every Muslim defends the Quran but a huge majority doesn't even understand the Quran or haven't even read it.
Thank you for your commence. Yes, you are not at all alone.
Please be linked to the Council of Ex Muslims UK.
I rejected Islam about 18 months ago, that is after trying to understand the Quran for real, coz I was one of those who used to defend the Quarn, not knowing what it says.
Used to believing in people like Naik and believed in them, assuming that they were talking about the Quran after analyzing it critically. But it turns out to be RUBBBISH.
@77alabama77 Yes, Zakir Naik blatantly lies when defending Islam and even a lot of Muslims have noticed it and accused him of lying about Islam. Not realizing the fact that Islam can't be defended with truth. It wouldn't surprise me if Zakir Naik doesn't even believe in Islam and I'm leaning towards the fact that he actually doesn't believe it. It's not possible for someone to clearly see the absurdities in the Bible and other scriptures and not see them in the Quran. Money is a motivator..
@77alabama77 Dude, I hear that Quran is deep. Its content cant b understood literally like any other books. U need to decipher the meaning. Peace y'all.
the intellect have all power over the uneducated as they will design ways to trick people.for personal gain the western highly intelligent mind should not be under estimated or even compared in any way to these 3rd world country's, information is far to vast to still believe in nonsense. if you have problems watch the blind watch maker from richerd dawkins and you will no strait away the truth
LOGANUVA 5 hours ago
they gave them the glorious quran told them to pray with there eyes closed. and when they woke up the British stole there oil and the Muslims realised they were fooled and the quran was rubbish.
LOGANUVA 5 hours ago
LOOOL the ancient greeks, lebanese and romans knew these things 1000 years before islam and muhammad!
Hannibal4eva 15 hours ago
The scientific facts he talks about in most of his debates were in fact in existence a long time ago,before the prophet. Check wikipedia about the dates of existence of the various theories about the moon,earth etc. These theories were not widespread because there was no medium of sharing information on a large scale then between people and other scholars. Prophet was a trader & he went places & collected those theories and recited them to his people.
jas2783 5 days ago
....(read previous comment) choice, because the principles of evolution are there. One question I will pose to people is: If Allah went through the process of the big bang, why wouldn't he go through the process of evolution? No matter what, the Quran is undoubtedly the divine book given to the prophet muhammad (SAW) from god, its proven with science and upheld with philosophy, people put a veil over there brains to ignore and make any excuse, to go on with there lives and not give up desires.
ThaLuqmonster 2 weeks ago
@ThaLuqmonster The scientific facts he talks about in most of his debates were in fact in existence a long time ago,before the prophet. Check wikipedia about the dates of existence of the various theories about the moon,earth etc. These theories were not widespread because there was no medium of sharing information on a large scale then between people and other scholars. Prophet was a trader & he went places & collected those theories and recited them to his people.
jas2783 5 days ago
...(read previous comment) man in the quran, like how it walked very upright and his joints were strengthened. It is also mentioned that they are blood shedders and mischief makers, all the points that i made so far are true, the quran also mentions that if we look throughout the earth we will see the remains of our previous generations. In conclusion, all the principles of evolution are stated very, and i mean very clearly in the quran, but whether you believe its evolution or not is your .....
ThaLuqmonster 2 weeks ago
@ThaLuqmonster @5:36 what zakir naik asks and what does he replies back?
sorry i am not getting.
needUrbless 6 days ago
Heres the dilemma, some scholars believe that evolution is in the quran, some believe that it isn't, but all scholars agree on a couple of things regarding evolution in the quran. The quran states many scientific statements regarding the creation of man, like how man is made from water and an extract of clay, and so on. Some quranic verses talk about mans previous generations, some people believe that after the neanderthal man, then Adam was put on earth. Because god describes the neanderthal..
ThaLuqmonster 2 weeks ago
Watches video. Facepalm.
aaqucnaona94 4 weeks ago
Um, no offense, but why "peace be upon him" so many times?
aaqucnaona94 4 weeks ago
@aaqucnaona94 because we have to respect all the prophets of Allah every time we speak of their names. that its self is a good deed. so it means more points.
TheTheman45 3 weeks ago
literally brought tears to my eyes. TAKBIR!!!!!!
dbaig187 1 month ago
when the brother responded "i think it's god," my heart dropped. MASHALLAH!!!!
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@dbaig187 The scientific facts he talks about in most of his debates were in fact in existence a long time ago,before the prophet. Check wikipedia about the dates of existence of the various theories about the moon,earth etc. These theories were not widespread because there was no medium of sharing information on a large scale then between people and other scholars. Prophet was a trader & he went places & collected those theories and recited them to his people.
jas2783 5 days ago
He is not a good actor!
sdasun 2 months ago
Mashalah i can't believe this guy :-D hes my hero
SuperOhable 2 months ago
christians have been raping kids in there care for centuries. they are always in the papers wer the bishops are trying to cover it up
mrlogicalman1 2 months ago
Evolution isn't exist, adaptation that exists, looks at us for example, when its snowing very badly, we adapt to the changes, we bust out our massive coats and gloves, evolution is just a non sensicle term for 1 creature turning into a complete different creature with say 1 or 2 differences when in fact they are the same creature just adapting into a different environment.
josephdawg 2 months ago
@josephdawg What? You're saying evolution doesn't exist because evolution exists... Sense you are not making it.
Adapting to an environment in order to survive is one of the most basic principals of evolution.
XTFparrot 1 month ago
@XTFparrot adaptation and evolution are 2 different things, maybe you need a clarification on what those terms mean my friend.
josephdawg 1 month ago
@josephdawg Actually no they're not.
You adapt to survive. Whomever is better at adapting is the one that gets to pass its genes on to the next generation on account of the one who doesn't adapt ends up dying. Otherwise known as natural selection which is a key mechanism of evolution.
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Allah mentioned the signs so people would think about them and bout life and how perfect the circle of life and existence really is, so we could come to the conclusion and only answer there is, that Allah Most High created all of this, and Allah knows best.
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TheEASTSIDE010 2 months ago
Is this the same idiot who lectured to a lame audience about birds pecking at ecological niches
in the "Kelatrophis" Islands, talking again about evolution?
aeo45bneop34qer 2 months ago
@aeo45bneop34qer waaaaaaaaaaa>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! r u a scientist.? U have not to teach us evolution. and if dont know about him, dont comment without knowing.
do u know who Dr.Zakir Naik. he is a great man who challenge ur POPE. but ur pope became afraid. he did'nt agree. [ that was open challenge] understand....????
maruf446 1 month ago
This guy definitely was not an atheist. It was fake.
trhtpc 3 months ago
allah is the most stupid god I've ever heard of. And mahomet must have been insane.
trhtpc 3 months ago
@trhtpc and ur a dick
MrGamemaker2000 2 months ago
@MrGamemaker2000 It's a honor to hear it from you
trhtpc 2 months ago
@trhtpc Thanks brudda :D
MrGamemaker2000 2 months ago
Alhumdulillah, atheists are just freaking idiots, they go on evolution which is half bullshit
bulldogzrep 4 months ago
@bulldogzrep With all the respect to you sir. I agree 100% with you that atheists are....well....diverted from pure reality. But don't you think that if u wud have not used 'idiots' and 'bullshit', u wud have gotten the same message across. Please try to be moderate because when non-muslims use indecent language for us muslims, none other than WE are to blame. Hope you got the point brother.
PEACE.....
Funwinxpixee 4 months ago
@Funwinxpixee Alhumdulillah brother you are completely correct, I wrote that comment in a time of frustration at these people, but it is said that the strong one controls his anger, thank you brother, Jazak Allah Khair
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@bulldogzrep you have no idea of the immense satisfaction u have given me. Thank you!
Funwinxpixee 4 months ago
@JibranHaidery , I haven't meet any such devil, but this poor dumbass guy is surely deceived by this devil. How he can be so idiot?
mypmp3 4 months ago
Someone has joined the Muslims Family
ALlah AKabar
SSaiyan6 4 months ago in playlist مزيد من مقاطع الفيديو من MrBeruwala
Bull crap!
mypmp3 4 months ago
@mypmp3 ha! the devil has deceived you! lol!
JibranHaidery 4 months ago
I LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE U DR NAIK
TheWazir420 4 months ago
@bottlefullofbubb Are you talking about matrix? lol
PlrinPuruPuru 4 months ago
@bottlefullofbubb
The Bucailleism bull crap you refer to is more a product of cognitive biases applied to vague and metaphoric passages open to interpretation. And it has been dismissed, even by Muslims: beyondbucailleism.php
SynnJinn13 5 months ago
@bottlefullofbubb
LOL...//Science has proven to be the most unreliable source of knowledge//
That is funny because without science, we would not be even having this conversation on the internet. Without science, we would still live in the dark ages. And what do you think is a better source? Religious knowledge? Religious epistemology has never granted anyone one iota of unknowable knowledge AT ALL.
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Brilliant and free minds of the 20th and 21st century question the 'validity' of this very concept and resultantly more talks and articles are coming out in "defence" of the concept as it contradicts with the reality. If the idea of "God" was realistic as it was romantic, no questioning of its existence will surface as it'd be relevant to one an all. Un-created equates to non-existent. I'm happy with that. God is non-existent. It's only a concept that many were smitten by it in ancient times.
samnkc1 6 months ago
God created the world & its creatures. Incredible concept. In reality, though, who created "God"? Another thought provoking concept is the reason humans experience suffering. Mostly explains that in order for us to surpass the miseries in this world and develop courage and so on, suffering became part of human life. If so, why the beings need to experience sufferings, hence "God" him/herself could have eradicated all sufferings have everyone in "heaven" without making us suffer. Bewildering!
samnkc1 6 months ago
Haha, "Islam has been since the first man set his foot on the Earth"??? Who's "the first man", when would they say our species' members were "men"? 200 000 years ago, 100 000 years ago? Human and hominid evolution has been a very slow and very gradual process, so I wonder how you determine when the "first man/human" was born? Was it "the first homo sapiens sapiens, or just sapien? Or Heidelbergensis, antecessor..or maybe even erectus? Haha, science/reality is a bitch, isn't it? Shove your Allah!
winterstellar 6 months ago
The non-muslims r always reading Quran to find mistakes in it but how dumbass they r to ignore the fact and beauty of it they judge 1bad muslim and blame the whole muslims how cheap and ignorant they r
mateen2007 6 months ago 17
@mateen2007 not nearly as ignorant as your wording, spelling or grammar. astaghfirullah! lol
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@mateen2007 This is the TRUTH. quran demands muslims to kill.Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.” (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57). You must be ignorant to have faith in a religion and a man that teaches to kill in the name of GOD(ALLAH).muhamad's way was and still is"ISLEM TESLIM."By the Sword. Read sura 9:29 “Slay the idolators [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them, Muslim’s make every effort to suppress any who claim to follow the Bible. Check your quran
33heis 6 days ago
Subhanallah he is lucky to be Muslim all his sins r washed by converting may Allah bless zakir naik
mateen2007 6 months ago
also the quran suggests that the earth is bigger that the sun! BULLSHIT ALERT!!!
pixelsblack 6 months ago
@pixelsblack Sura & Chapter please.
Dont hit and run
Sharing is caring
so please share with us this fact
mohammadazami 6 months ago
@pixelsblack wikiislam(dotnet)/wiki/The_Geocentric_Qur%27an youtube(dotcom)/watch?v=nPrEaFmtZww islam-guide(dotcom)/ch1-1-e.htm
the quran also states that the pure water and salt water in the sea does not mix, again BULLSHIT ALERT!!!!
pixelsblack 6 months ago
stated in (Quran, 25:53): it dooesnt say they DONT mix, there is a barrier.
here is your simplifies scientific answer: Science has discovered that in estuaries, where fresh and salt water meet, It has been discovered that what distinguishes fresh water from salt water in estuaries is a “pycnocline zone with a marked density discontinuity separating the two layers. This partition (zone of separation) has a different salinity from the fresh water and from the salt waters"
IshiBhoi 5 months ago
@IshiBhoi Hello Mr.Einstein, what is the purpose and result of having a barrier between salt water and fresh water?
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The guy asking the question is an idiot and yes I'm a srilankan, he could have brought up the fact that the quran states that the earth is flat and it encourages wife beatings, or the death penalty for apostasy, evolution is a FACT there is proof of evolution Dr Zakir is an ass hole I really wish dichard dawkins was here the PWN the hell out of this bullshit spewer, I firmly believe that Islam is the worst religion in the world!
pixelsblack 6 months ago
subhanAllah.
swashyrose 6 months ago
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77alabama77 7 months ago
Its good being skeptic n all but pointing out faults on others (religions especially) does not make u any good at all. U might say what dis guy says are bullshit, It may or may not b a bullshit. Mayb his understanding of Islam is different from non muslims. The same way a Pope's understanding of Chistian is different from the non christians etc.
It depends on how u view things. A simple example is the difference between the east n west in believing spiritual stuffs.
KaGe9009 7 months ago
@KaGe9009 The west may believe in spiritual stuffs IF it can be proven by science on the other hand, the east, like china n japan, they believe in spiritual stuffs without science facts like qigong, guardian spirits n so on.
KaGe9009 7 months ago
@okenath123 do u think by memorizing text and fooling billions of people in this world? is it possible? think again and again.
People who have done research on right direction have reached right path. It is your responsibility to identify the true god and worship him before your death, otherwise immediate after death you will come to know but time is up no second chance.
if you don't want, keep away from islam, we are not going to loose anything, but you r. I wish god put in right direction.
mail2kasim 7 months ago
Mashallah
hitube16 7 months ago 3
May God bless Dr. Zakir. truly a man with great knowledge.
ryudooo 7 months ago 21
@ryudooo
Yeah, until you start doing your own proper research (Which very few Muslims do), however, here is a short cut to know how great Dr.Naik is; look it up for "The Earth's geoid shape - Exposing Dr Zakir Naik (Oxford university)" and you will see just a bit of his true colors.
Cheers.
77alabama77 7 months ago
@77alabama77 i coulden't help but read that you were an Ex-Muslim, but you know, Dr, Naik isn't the only one who said that by the way other scholers and scientists also said that. if you can't accept all the scientific facts in the qur'an, then you truely need do the research your self, not every one can understand the qur'an unless you are well educated in arabic and in science.
ryudooo 7 months ago
@77alabama77 but it's just eating you away to see someone who is showing the truth about islam isn't it, that it's the perfect religion, and please don't bother your self with telling me that your were a "good muslim" and you were a "scholer" because that one is getting real old, oh i saw your little video about the "Miracles of the Qur'an" and how you were trying to prove it wrong, it's just pointless. it made no sense what so ever, because as far as i know more scientests see those facts ===>
ryudooo 7 months ago
@77alabama77 and they realise that the Qur'an is truely the word of God almighty, your video is only good for the weak minded. oh and don't worry, i'm not bothered because you're an "Ex-Muslim" because as far as i know you are the one who lost, not islam, also people who aren't muslims but are better than you, better even than i'm enter islam every day as god promised he will bring people whome he will love and they will love him.
ryudooo 7 months ago
@77alabama77 so, weither you accept that the Scientific miracles in the Qur'an is true or not, that is your own opinion, and that changes nothing about the fact is that the Qur'an does contain it, and like i did say, alot of scientists did admit it, and they reverted to islam. so, i don't really think what you think really means any thing but to your self. don't get me wrong, i mean no disrespect to you, but calling the Qur'an rubbish is something that i won't tolerate. end of discussion.
ryudooo 7 months ago
@ryudooo
1. U said "alot of scientists did admit it". Please provide evidence.
2. Did u see the YouTube clip on "The Earth's geoid shape - Exposing Dr Zakir Naik (Oxford university).
3. What do I have to do to prove that Quran is Rubbish = has mistakes and can not be the word of God.
77alabama77 7 months ago
@77alabama77 1- Proof:
watch?v=0IspK651RpY
watch?v=QhHr7OBQrKs&feature=related
watch?v=FUUPYs0gElU
2- yea is saw it, and no i don't believe he was "exposed" as he says it.
3- you can't, because you will never be able to do so, the Qur'an was sent as a challange to every one in this world, including muslims. and someone as weak minded as you are will always use curses against something you aren't able to comprehend.
ryudooo 7 months ago
@ryudooo REPLY 1.
Re.1. Ok so it seems when u said "a lot of scientists did admit it" your comment was not based on a research of your own or of an organization. (If your logic the yard stick, do a search on how many scientists believe in the Bible.)
77alabama77 7 months ago
@ryudooo REPLY 2.
Watched all 3 clips and wonder what they would have told if they knew what the Quran really says and not want the translations they saw says and wonder what they will say after seeing the following clips:
watch?v=SJfqmZ0cuek&feature=watch_response
watch?v=LmIEeM8CSbA&feature=channel_video_title
watch?v=6Xen_0gNHu8&feature=relmfu
watch?v=HEA2W-HSVYc
77alabama77 7 months ago
@ryudooo REPLY 3.
Re.2. Zakir WAS exposed indeed. Zakir says Sir Francis Drake discovered in 1577 that the earth's shape and Quran spoke about it 1400 years ago.
ZAKIR IS DAMN WRONG.
Eratosthenes discovered it 600 years before the Quran. If you want to know how he did that, watch the following clip from 4:30 watch?v=m6LY0uAUVic
77alabama77 7 months ago
@ryudooo REPLY 4.
Re.3. U say I can't do it. NO NO NO, I say, YOU CAN DO IT.
Here is how YOU can do it.
1. Look at the u tube clips uploaded by CEMBadmins & StopSpamming1 .
2. Do your own research on what CEMBadmins & StopSpamming1 have to say. (This means, u have to do your OWN research and not to depend on Zakir Naik or the English Translations. Do your own translations on the key words and see if Quran rally says what it says or if the meanings are stretched to match the reality.
77alabama77 7 months ago
@77alabama77 lol, i got you angry, 5 points for me. well, i don't need to translate, because i'm arabic, and i understand the quran even more than you can ever think, i'm not a scholer, but i know enough that makes me believe that the qur'an is the word of god, and you don't seem to understand, again i say, if scientists and priesthood people from all over the world and from lots of believes admit that the Qur'an is the true word of god, i won't listen to a common person. however ====>
ryudooo 6 months ago
@ryudooo REPLY 2 of 2
3. Since you know Arabic, could u please give meaning for the word thumma or summa (4th letter in Arabic and the letter meem = ثم)
4. Since I have proved that I have not given u misinformation about Eratosthenes, why don't you check out links I gave you. (Unless you are afraid of the truth over taking your faith in Islam.)
77alabama77 6 months ago
@77alabama77 لا إله إلا الله, و الله انه مسكين
ثم meens then, 2nd i read about him in wikipedia, no where it said that he discovered that the earth was round, it said that he discovered the world was not flat. 3rd, Dr, Naik isn't perfect, so weither it was Sir. Drake, Abo- Alhasan or Ferdinand, still does't prove that the Qur'an is wrong. and no actually, you aint taking islam faith from me, you are helping me to educate my self even more, which i'm thankful to you about it. so again, you fail
ryudooo 6 months ago
@ryudooo REPLY 1 of 2
1. Pls confirm that u r not going to say that ثم has another meaning later. If it has, tell them now.
2-a. If Eratosthenes discovered that the world was not flat, then what is the obvious next words after "it is NOT FLAT"?
2-b. Wikipedia and many more sources say "Eratosthenes was the first person to calculate the circumference of the earth". in order to know in detail what he really did, have a look at the following clip from 4:30 on wards: watch?v=m6LY0uAUVic
77alabama77 6 months ago
@ryudooo REPLY 2 of 2
2-c. As u said, if Eratosthenes said the earth is not flat and many sources say that he calculate the circumference of the earth, now what is the shape of the earth according to Eratosthenes?
3. Yes, Zakir being wrong can not mean the Quran is wrong. Quran has to be checked on it's own. This is why I told u to do your own research and not depend on what other people have to say about the science in the Quran. U CHECK ON YOUR OWN WHAT SCIENCE SAYS & WHAT QURAN REALLY SAYS.
77alabama77 6 months ago
@77alabama77 kaheel7(dot)com/eng/ go and read from that site, and again i say i have read about Eratos (again) true that he was the first to measure the circumference of the earth, but still, no records of him showing that he discovered that the earth is round. and lets for account say that Eratos did by some chance discover it, he will even provide more proof of the truth in the qur'an. but again i say no records of showing he discovered that the earth was round.
ryudooo 6 months ago
@ryudooo also, i'm not a scientist, in the qur'an Allah said "اسألوا أهل الذكر" and of course if you were a muslim you would understand what it would mean, but i'll translate "Ask those Who Know" or "Ask the people of Knowledge" and that goes to science, religion, etc..
if you want to know more about the word ثم then go check in the internet (from reliable arabic sites).
ryudooo 6 months ago
@ryudooo
Seems like u didn't get the meaning of "circumference". Pls look it up.
Pls confirm that u r not going to say that ثم has another meaning later. If it has, tell them now.
77alabama77 6 months ago
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@77alabama77 what do you want to try and prove?
ryudooo 6 months ago
@77alabama77 also, i can't confirm to you the this word would only mean then, but tell me what you have.
like i said, you aren't taking away my islamic faith, but you are allowing me to educate my self even more, thus increasing my faith.
ryudooo 6 months ago
@ryudooo
1. Did you see the meaning of "circumference". If yes now you know that Eratosthenes confirmed the shape of the earth to the world before Quran and it is not a miracles as Zakir claims, and this what is meant by ZAKIR WAS DEBUNKED or EXPOSED.
2. U said u know Arabic. Confirm the meanings for ثم coz u might bring fabricated meanings once I tell u my point. Or, what did people during the revelation of the Quran understand ثم to be? (If u want to know where to find it, I can help u)
77alabama77 6 months ago
@77alabama77 1- have been reading about it the earth and who discovered it and all, and again i say if Eratos did discover this, that doesen't mean the Qur'an is wrong, infact, his theory proves the Qur'an right, and to further more prove the qur'an is right, Arabian scientists further proved about the truth of the Qur'an, the shape of the earth and how they measured it as well. and it's funny how you are trying to "expose" Dr. Naik, doesen't really matter who discovered it ====>
ryudooo 6 months ago
@77alabama77 what matters is that it doesen't prove the Qur'an in any way wrong.
2- Yes i know Arabic because i'm an Arabian person, i will confirm to you about the meanings of this word in the Qur'an after i check with a few Qur'an scholers, because even Arabic in the Qur'an is deeper than the Arabic we know now (which is slang arabic) but, just this thing in my mind all of that time, why are you trying with me instead of the one who you are trying to "DEBUNK" who is Dr. Naik?
ryudooo 6 months ago
@ryudooo
Ok, since u agree that Eratosthenes, the point here was not about the Quran being wrong. Remember, u said that Zakir was not debunked and that is where this started and now it ends.
About the Quran, good to know that u r an Arab. Once u confirm the meaning, I will talk to you about it.
By the way, u being an Arab, u have to confirm with Qur'anic scholars. I wonder how the Quran can stand the claim that is clear and it is for the entire mankind of all times. Any way,,,, Cheers.
77alabama77 6 months ago
@77alabama77 it did for more than 1400 years, and it will keep on doing so, again i ask, why did you not debate a scholer such as Dr. Naik. u still didn't answer me, are you afraid he will debunk you instead? :)
ryudooo 6 months ago
@ryudooo
I never claimed that I can debate Zakir. For his standard, he may debunk me 100 times but if I debunk him in even 1 matter, he is lost & I did so in the shape of the earth & THERE R FEW MORE to come.
If you can arrange a debate, I know an Arab with an open challenge to ANY MUSLIM.
He has just published a book "Deception of Allah" in which he has some stupid claims & also great points. As u may agree, if any one can find 1 mistake in the Quran, QURAN IS GONE, it will be like the Bible.
77alabama77 6 months ago
@77alabama77 1- I agree on 1 thing, if you find, that is if there is one, mistake in the Qur'an than it's a false book, but trust me on this, no one, and i truely mean no one will ever find a mistake in the Qur'an, not you, not your friend, nor any one no matter how smart he is, cause there will be an answer to every one of you. one other thing, u said that if you debunk him once (Dr. Naik) he is lost, i still don't understand how did u or any one debunk him yet=====>
ryudooo 6 months ago
@77alabama77 this whole earth is round thing and who discovered it is in argue between every one in this world, dude if u want to debunk him, prove him wrong on something scientific or religious, not on who discovered this and who discovered that. it doesen't really matter who discovered what.
what you are trying to prove is useless mate. i don't know if you are an athiest or a christian or whatever belief you follow. but i know for sure, you were not a Muslim.
ryudooo 6 months ago
@ryudooo
I am waiting for your confirmation of ثم.
We r done with the shape of the earth. If u still don't get it, there is no point talking about it.
77alabama77 6 months ago
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@77alabama77 i think it means "so" or "then". what do you think?
6349474 6 months ago
@77alabama77 you know what, i have a site about scientific fact written in the qur'an and proven real, i have read them, and they increased my faith, Islam is about logic and knowledge, so please try something else.
ryudooo 6 months ago
@ryudooo
Were u able find the conclusive meaning of ثم.
77alabama77 6 months ago
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ryudooo 6 months ago
@77alabama77 I'v read about this Eratosthenes, he did not discover the world was round, so cut the bull and stop getting misinformation. the first person who discovered that the world was round is a man by the name of Abo Al-Hasan ASsoufi, or Ferdinand Magellan. not sure who of those two. and that was after the time of the Qur'an. so please, try that on someone else. but because of that lie, i'm not going to take your words for granted, so don't bother me any more with non-sense
ryudooo 6 months ago
@ryudooo REPLY 1 of 2
1. Seems like u know better than Zakir. If it was Abo Al-Hasan or F.Magellan, Zakir is wrong to say that it was F.Drake.
2. Yes, F.Magellan was the first to circumnavigate the Earth and Eratosthenes was not the first to go around the earth, but he told the shape of the earth and he also measurement of the size of Earth.
Before u say no again on Eratosthenes, have a look at Britannica, Wikipedia or any proper source.
77alabama77 6 months ago
Even assuming that Quran is 100% correct scientifically, that does not prove it is voice of God. There have been thousands of scientists from time immemorial who have written thousands of theories, some correct some wrong.That does not make them messengers.This guy seems to be put there for advertising Zakir.He is trying hard to conceal his smile, but he can't.Foolish gimmick.
lokenath123 8 months ago
@lokenath123 a. smiling - sign of nervousness, embarrassment
b. whats the probability of 1 book putting in scientifc information that is all correct. there would at least be 1 wrong theory
HummadJ 7 months ago
@HummadJ Dude, the guy is a 'plant' like the ones used in magic shows and entertainment wrestling. He received a nice paycheck for the gimmick.
Don't talk about about probabilty, since you obviously have to add enormous amounts of imagination to make Quran sound scientific. There are very few 'theories' in the book with hardly any being correct. Take it to any high school student and he could point them out to you. But its your belief, I won't stop you from believing.
lokenath123 7 months ago
@lokenath123 just google dat shit, even zakir naik has video, and no u dont need a large imagination
HummadJ 7 months ago
@HummadJ You do :) "I made the earth and sky as one, then I took them apart". Zakir says this is big bang theory!!!! LOL To draw that parallel, requires LOTSSSS of imagination. Don't expect me to explain why, its kid stuff. And that 'shit' you mentioned is what is written in Quran, please don't talk about religious text in this degrading language.
lokenath123 7 months ago
@lokenath123 my brother come with a factual statement we il debate, rolling your eyes away from the truth will lead you straight to hell, tomorrow whn u die when Allah asks you y did u die a non muslim you cannot say that we did not covey the message of Allah to you so open up your eyes thanks
kiraa12 7 months ago
@kiraa12 I quoted Zakir himself, that is a fact! And talking of fact, read your previous comment, is there a SINGLE fact? Quran says "I made the earth and sky as one and then parted them" - you say that is Big Bang Theory :) FYI, there is nothing called 'sky' in science. You can say you believe in Quran, no issues, you CAN believe in what you want, without harming me. But don't fool yourself by declaring it is 100% scientific, as it is not even close to a scientific book. Ask any schoolgoer.
lokenath123 7 months ago
haha the guy just came to ask a question and was converted to Muslim due to pressure
Sweetassour 8 months ago
@Sweetassour
yea i agreed with you,im a muslim,but he came to be really scared of zakir's talking and just say yes,but i belive he truly be a good muslim after that:}
Ashraff1971 8 months ago
"you have to believe in the messenger of that time" who is the messenger of our time then? Muhammad died 1400 years ago...how can we follow him when he lived at that time? In a time where muslims were told that they could have sex with slave without marrying them. So theoretically, I could take my girlfriend, buy her as my slave, and then we can have sex according to Islam...to conclude, this prophet is NOT for our time. God should have sent another=not complete religion.
hypedpotential 8 months ago
Islam means submitting your will to God, so no matter how you called it, and how they called themself, they basically said they submit to God. Thus they were muslims. The word itself can be in many languages, but the essence is the same. And even in hebrew the similarity would have been there, since Islam comes from the root word SLM, which is also Salam, and in hebrew SHALOM.
skajkingdom 8 months ago
@WongOmowale brother the name is not to be confused with the message, it's not a lie if the purpose was the same, look at the bigger context
xainpk 8 months ago
@zeroempires1 again please before you make comments, from one brother of mankind to another just read the translation of those same topics of embryology astrology and anatomy and compare them to any aztec or ancient book.
xainpk 8 months ago
@WongOmowale lol don't be so ignorant ofcourse no one CAME out saying this is ISLAM or we are muslims, that's the name given to the people off the quran that came down to the last messenger (pbuh) after jesus (pbuh).
xainpk 8 months ago
@bornnraised1 The video looked interesting, despite the fact that he is in it.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
Plate Tectonics
The earth's crust consists of a number of moving pieces or plates, that are always colliding or pulling apart. The Lithosphere consists of nine large plates and twelve smaller ones. The continents are imbedded in continental plates; the oceanic plates make up much of the sea floor. The study of Tectonic plates -
Moinuku 8 months ago
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Plate Tectonics
The earth's crust consists of a number of moving pieces or plates, that are always colliding or pulling apart. The Lithosphere consists of nine large plates and twelve smaller ones. The continents are imbedded in continental plates; the oceanic plates make up much of the sea floor. The study of Tectonic plates - called plate tectonics - helps to explain continental drift, the spreading of the sea floor, volcanic eruptions and how mountains are formed. The force that causes the m
Moinuku 8 months ago
Plate Tectonics
The earth's crust consists of a number of moving pieces or plates, that are always colliding or pulling apart. The Lithosphere consists of nine large plates and twelve smaller ones. The continents are imbedded in continental plates; the oceanic plates make up much of the sea floor. The study of Tectonic plates - called plate tectonics - helps to explain continental drift, the spreading of the sea floor, volcanic eruptions and how mountains are formed. The force that causes the m
Moinuku 8 months ago
Only planet earth is globe .Plate Tectonics
The earth's crust consists of a number of moving pieces or plates, that are always colliding or pulling apart. The Lithosphere consists of nine large plates and twelve smaller ones. The continents are imbedded in continental plates; the oceanic plates make up much of the sea floor. The study of Tectonic plates - called plate tectonics - helps to explain continental drift, the spreading of the sea floor, volcanic eruptions and how mountains are formed.
Moinuku 8 months ago
Zakir Naik sucks major bawls.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
All those medical and scientific theories that Naik mentioned in the Koran is mentioned in Buddhism, so theres no special secret here.
crazybones2009 8 months ago
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ladnarchitect 9 months ago
Hahaha this is hilarious. Unfortunately for him, he never had a chance to understand Islam. Maybe he did it just for the hell of it or maybe this was staged. Nobody accepts a religion in 8 minutes. Unfortunately for him, if he wasn't serious about accepting Islam, he is in trouble now because the penalty for apostasy is merciless death in Islam.
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@geniusjas87 where did you hear that? -___- don't make up weird rules about a religion which you clearly don't know about. Before accepting islam, a nonbeliever is asked "are you forced to convert to Islam", "is anyone pressurizing you?" before he is allowed to enter islam. Converting to this one and true religion requires true will.
MrHappytaffy 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy "where did you hear that"? that apostasy is punishable by death in Islam? This shows how little you know about Islam. Yet you're ready to defend it. And no, they don't ask "are you forced to convert to Islam", "is anyone pressurizing you?" I know Muslims have a tendency to lie or make things up when defending Islam. But you can't lie or make things up with me, because I'm a former Muslim myself. I've been a Muslim for 23 years and I used to talk exactly like you.
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@geniusjas87 There's no mention about such rule in any of Muhammad's (pbuh) hadiths or the Quran. Research the sharia law you'll get what i mean. Bible however approves of death penalty for apostasy, AFTER it was changed for like the millionth time. Read a 50 year old bible (13:6-9) and a recent one. Then read a 1000 year old Quran and read a recent one. You shall notice the difference. I pity you being a former muslim, may Allah have mercy on you. Allah is The Most-Merciful. Allahu akbar.
MrHappytaffy 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy So apostates may not be killed if they don't speak against Islam? But an apostate is bound to speak against Islam when asked why he rejected his/her faith. Therefore killed. The reason Islam doesn't want apostates to live is because of the fear of spreading the truth about how Islamic laws are violent and destructive. Islam has defence mechanisms. And it's very evident and made very clear, specially in certain Muslim countries that blasphemers and apostates should be killed.
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy Yes, the Bible is also extremely violent if you read the Old Testament. But Christians claim that after Jesus was cruicified, all human sins were forgiven and those violent rules needn't be followed. Ofcourse that's a fallacy yet Christians don't accept it.
But do you ever ask yourself why is Islam so fearful of criticism? Only when someone is lying will fear investigation right? I'm sure since you didn't know the apostasy rule, you don't even read the Quran.
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy Yet here you are defending it. Find out the truth about religion my friend. Religion is a lie and the God idea is fabricated. There is no God, no heaven or hell, no afterlife. The reason you believe these things is because you were indoctrinated at a very young age with these false ideas. It's difficult for you to give up this idea. You can varify for youself how flawed the God idea is and the errors in the Quran. Just read it yourself with an open mind.
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy There are very obvious scientific flaws in the Quran but but some scholars try to bend the facts in their favor to support their flawed claims. Take for example the flat earth view in the Quran. Some verses 15:19, 20:53, 43:10, 50:7, 51:4, 71:19, 78:6, 79:30 indicates that the earth is flat, saying "We have spread out the earth like a bed/carpet for you"
Other verses say sun and moon revolve around earth 21:33, 2:258, 20:130
Earth is motionless 27:61
and many more.
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy Not to mention the moral flaws in Islam. Watch this video of a little girl taught to hate jews watch?v=ZL0C2QvqIlo
Theo Van Gogh brutally murdered for murdered for creating a movie about arab women being subjugated.
Danish cartoonist who drew Mohammad was burned alive.
Girl was murdered for BEING raped in Bangladesh under Sharia Law.
Amputation for stealing, stoning to death for adultry and so much more.
These are bitter truths about Islam & reason why apostates are killed.
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@geniusjas87 There are INNOCENT people killed without reason everyday. If he is any other relgion hes a killer, if he's a muslim you make him a terrorist wtf? You cannot just point out these specific flaws just because they have a relation with muslims, and most of these CRIMES were committed and called an act of islam. News and the media are manipulative. They can turn a hero into a villain, a villain into a hero, in my case, turn a religion of peace into a blind cause of mass murder.
MrHappytaffy 9 months ago
@geniusjas87 in Iraq for example, the country was being bombed by the US, the US soldiers spared no children even. US had guns, MOST people of iraq carried stones as weapons as they were seized of everything! Only a few iraq people who managed to obtain guns and raged in vengeance, yelling crazily, only THOSE people were showed by the media. What will it make people think? That muslims are terrorists? What about Bush? isnt what he did an act of terrorism if you think of facts and not the media?
MrHappytaffy 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy You can't bring war into this. The Iraq war was not related to religion, it was for monetary benifit regardless of what american leaders say. Bush is the biggest piece of shit and if I could kill anyone and get away with it, I would kill him. Although he's not a threat anymore.
Religion is different, it kills people for no good reason. People like Bush can be questioned. But religion cannot be criticized. Inspite of these horrible acts. Do you really support these acts by Islam?
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy The only reason you would support this sick acts condoned by religion is because you think God is real. But have you have to understand that the God concept is made up. The religious books are written by bronze age men and it's THEIR rules written in the scriptures. The God concept was just a way to explain their existance. Since the beginning of time when people couldn't explain something, they would worship it. Just think about it.
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@geniusjas87 DO you want me to prove Existence of God with scientific evidences taken from the Quran? A 1400 year old unaltered book? This books author is God himself, and Muhammad is the Messenger who sent God's words to man. Since you were a muslim before you should know that Muhammad (pbuh) was an illiterate uneducated man like most people of those times. Even the most educated of men would not know of the Big Bang theroy (for example) that time.
MrHappytaffy 9 months ago
@geniusjas87 So if you believe Muhammad tricked us, you are saying an illiterate and uneducated man wrote a book consisting of several scientific facts, most of which was only recently discovered by scientists. Brother, i did think about it, and that is why im a strong believer.
MrHappytaffy 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy "DO you want me to prove Existence of God with scientific evidences taken from the Quran" sure, lets see you try. The Quran doesn't have any scientific evidence.
It's clearly a book created by multiple authors and those authors were familiar with previous scriptures like the Bible and extracted the stories from there. If you remember the Quran was revealed to Mohammad on the mountain where he often used to go ALONE and he claimed that Allah was talking to him (cont.)
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy only when he was on the mountain. (Probably have to be closer to the sky because God can't make it down to the ground). Anyway, then he would recite those "revelations" to the PEOPLE WHO WERE WITH HIM (Probably the authors). The truth is, Mohammad didn't write the book neither did God. Mohammad WAS illiterate, but the people who wrote the Quran weren't. And "God" didn't reveal the Quran himself. The revelaions kept coming to Mohammad (whenever he imagined something).
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@geniusjas87 "but the people who wrote the Quran weren't." I agree as Quran states that in a few revelations, there were other people with Muhammad and they were educated (so you may think they added info) But what are you trying to say? That they knew every single state of a fetus in mother's womb; The theory of "Big Bang"; Earth is spherical; The moon only reflects light and not a source itself. You are saying people knew about this 1400 years ago? Brother right now you are making me laugh.
MrHappytaffy 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy "That they knew every single state of a fetus in mother's womb" some scientists discovered it before the Quran but it's an inaccurate description.
"Earth is spherical" Quran never says that. Infact, Quran indicates that the earth is flat 15:19, 20:53, 43:10, 50:7, 51:4, 71:19, 78:6, 79:30
"The moon only reflects light" Nope, it clearly says moon has it's own light. noor = light, not reflection
"Big Bang" not even close
Did you know Quran also says world ends on 2012? lol
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy The truth is, Quran is written in ancient arabic and it's written in riddles. It's very interpretable. Whatever people find that they can compare it to the real world, they make a big fuss about it. And ofcourse Muslims who have faith don't even bother to check whether or not the claim is right, if it's from Quran, it must be true right?
Do you seriously believe Quran says the world will end in 2012? Do you even believe that the world will end on 2012? Must be if the Quran says it
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy Do you really think if an almight all knowing and all powerful God existed, he would resort to such a primitive way to communicate with humans? And why would he be so specific to geography? If he wanted the whole world to know, why would he reveal the Quran to only a few arabs? Why would write it in riddles? Why wouldn't he be clear about everything in the book?
Think about it. The "scientific miracles" in the Quran are just how 7th century men saw the world. It's not true.
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy Even if for a second we accept that all the "Scientific miracles" are true. That it mentions the earth is spherical, and moonlight is reflected, fetus, big bang, 2012 etc.. Think about the things that Quran DOESN'T mention.. It doesn't mention the earth orbiting around the sun (infact, it says that earth is motionless). It doesn't talk about the billions of stars & galaxies. Doens't mention other planets. Doesn't talk about gravity, viruses, germs and tons of other things.
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@geniusjas87 These arent miracle these facts even you should admit that. And i only mentioned to you a few of these facts from the Quran. Most of the ones you mentioned now are in fact mentioned in the Quran, as far as my Quran knowledge takes me. However about the Earth orbit thing, the Quran (to my knowledge) does not mention about its orbit, it neither says it moves nor it says its still, so dont jump into conclusions.
MrHappytaffy 9 months ago
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@MrHappytaffy Quran indicates the earth is flat. 15:19, 20:53, 43:10, 50:7, 51:4, 71:19, 78:6, 79:30
Sun & Moon revolve aroud earth 21:33, 2:258, 20:130
This indicates the earth as motionless/resting/stable ground 27:61. It never says earth is in motion or orbiting around sun.
You should read the Quran yourself instead of defending it using biased information given by other people.
corpus.quran(.)com/translation.jsp
Type in the verses I gave you and check it out yourself.
geniusjas87 9 months ago
@geniusjas87 Dr.Zakir wrote a book where theres a record of 100s other scientific quotes, if you do not believe check it out yourself.
MrHappytaffy 9 months ago
@MrHappytaffy Waste money on Zakir, that preacher of hate in the name of communal harmony? Thrown out of three countries for his hate speech. He does not know about Islam, let alone other religions. He memorises text, and thinks himself to be a big scholar.
lokenath123 7 months ago
@geniusjas87
I am an Ex Muslim.
We can't accept even for a second all the "Scientific miracles" in Quran are true.
The Arabic Quran dose not say that the earth is spherical, or that the moonlight is reflected etc.
New translations are stretched to match the reality. The Arabic Quran ""21:30 heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder"" is talking about the very earth we live in and not about the universe.
There is a lot more, rubbish.
77alabama77 8 months ago
@77alabama77 There aren't many ex-muslims.. even on the internet. Most are not outspoken.. A lot of them don't even bother talking about it on the internet. But everytime someone does, it makes me realize I'm not alone. We need a lot more ex-muslim atheists.. Muslims need to be educated of the absurdities of religion. It's funny how every Muslim defends the Quran but a huge majority doesn't even understand the Quran or haven't even read it.
FreeFromWar 8 months ago
@FreeFromWar
Thank you for your commence. Yes, you are not at all alone.
Please be linked to the Council of Ex Muslims UK.
I rejected Islam about 18 months ago, that is after trying to understand the Quran for real, coz I was one of those who used to defend the Quarn, not knowing what it says.
Used to believing in people like Naik and believed in them, assuming that they were talking about the Quran after analyzing it critically. But it turns out to be RUBBBISH.
77alabama77 8 months ago
@77alabama77 Yes, Zakir Naik blatantly lies when defending Islam and even a lot of Muslims have noticed it and accused him of lying about Islam. Not realizing the fact that Islam can't be defended with truth. It wouldn't surprise me if Zakir Naik doesn't even believe in Islam and I'm leaning towards the fact that he actually doesn't believe it. It's not possible for someone to clearly see the absurdities in the Bible and other scriptures and not see them in the Quran. Money is a motivator..
FreeFromWar 8 months ago
@FreeFromWar absurdities dont exist in quran
sosa23algerino 8 months ago
@sosa23algerino Quran Indicates earth is flat 15:19, 20:53, 43:10, 50:7, 51:4, 71:19, 78:6, 79:30
Sun & moon revolve around earth 21:33, 2:258, 20:130
indicates the earth as motionless ground 27:61 and doesn't say anything about how earth revolves around earth.
Cut off the hands of thieves. It is an exemplary punishment from Allah. Quran 5:38
A woman is worth one-half a man. Quran 2:282
No muslims shoud be killed for killing a kafir (bukhari 9.50)
Quran is sexist, racist and absurd...
FreeFromWar 8 months ago
absurdities dont exist in quran
sosa23algerino 8 months ago
@sosa23algerino that is an absurd statement
lokenath123 8 months ago
@77alabama77 Dude, I hear that Quran is deep. Its content cant b understood literally like any other books. U need to decipher the meaning. Peace y'all.
KaGe9009 7 months ago