the reality of this is that you can get better performance from a .454 casull in such a short barrel and at 1/10th the cost. this gun was a fishing lure designed to catch fishermen and not fish. . .and it looks like it worked ; )
@jedirifleman The reality of this is you can have a hamburger or you can have a filet mignon. Both come from the same cow. You cannot compare a handgun cartridge to an elephant gun cartridge. It's not about price/performance. This world has room for Shelby Mustangs and for Lamborghinis,
@golfer15963 That is a TC thumbhole glass stock for their rifle. The gunsmith who built the gun cut the stock down and reworked it to work as a handgun. He got written permission from BATFE to classify this as a handgun and not a short rifle. It helped that the gun owner's next door neighbor is a Secret Service agent. That's all I'll say about that...
Looks like the fingers can hit the barrel relase lever. Take a look at my 50 Alaskan video and note that I have modified the trigger guard/barrel release to get it out of the way of the fingers under recoil. Thought it might help make it more fun to shoot if the pain encountered under recoil could be reduced.
Glad to see another hand cannon nut. I thought my 50 Alaskan with 975gr bullets had some recoil, ha! A lot of guys who have never shot large bore high power handguns don't understand that the recoil on a hangun platform is different than in a rifle. A rifle transmits the recoil straight back into your shoulder, a pistol alows the recoil to travel back but at the same time your elbows can flex and the gun moves upward which also diminishes some of the felt recoil. Thanks for sharing the video!
It is based on a TC frame, good spotting. The gunsmith replaced some TC internal works with stainless steel and titanium pieces. The barrel with its titanium muzzle brake is totally custom.
I'm the video shooter, not the shooter of the handgun. Yes, it is a custom-built .416 Rigby with a titanium muzzle brake. We're working on a newer video post to prove this is a .416 Rigby. By the way, the shooter is a power lifter who has arms and hands considerably stronger than the average dude. I shot this gun and the recoil damn near put a hole in my forehead!
@bflocreek It may very well be a .416 Rigby, I don't doubt that at all...but what is uncertain is the loading used. A reloader could have used the lightest bullet possible and the lowest powder charge possible...I know I would do so for just plinking. I'll bet the load used for the video was not a full-power hunting load.
@alternatehistories You lose the bet. I am the videographer. My friend is the owner of the hand cannon. I have known him well for over 25 years. He has only factory loads for the .416 Rigby. About 10 years ago he had a Sharps rifle in .45/120 (remember "Quigley Down Under"?). He paid about $1000 for just the reloading equipment (dies, molds, scales, everything),but could never get the Sharps loads from keyholing & tumbling. He sold everything & swore he'd never reload again!
@bflocreek just curious, but what is "keyholing" and "tumbling"...is this something which happens at the loading bench, or at the firing range. I am a reloader of primarily .45-70, but I've never encountered these words before. Thanks!
@alternatehistories Picture an old-fashioned lock on door handle made for skeleton key. That's a keyhole. When bullet was not seated properly in the .45-120, there was gap in chamber between the bullet and start of rifling. The bullet didn't travel in proper spiral path; it ended up going end over end. The image on paper target looked like a keyhole. Also not at all accurate. If you use standard .45-70 dies, crimping and gauges you would not see this happen. He found out after he sold his stuff.
@bflocreek Your problem is with rate of twist to stabilize your bullets rotation .
Also with some calibers and bullet weights it takes a specific length of barrel to bring a bullet up to proper velocity before full stable rotation of the bullet happens
With the short barrel you have you never will have the velocity to stabilize some 416 bullets
@Moldovawineimporter Sorry, you misunderstand this communication thread. The .416 Rigby handgun as seen in this video clip uses full factory loads. It is deadly accurate to 150 yards fired from rest.
The handloading issue dealt with a story relating to an attempt to reload for a Sharps replica rifle in .45-120 caliber. That rifle had a plenty long enough barrel. My friend's hand loaded bullets were not properly sized to completely fill the rifle's chamber. My friend was using data for .45-70.
Neat gun and cartridge but no thanks, the bones in my hands are finally recovering from my many years of magnunitis.
klesmer 6 months ago
the reality of this is that you can get better performance from a .454 casull in such a short barrel and at 1/10th the cost. this gun was a fishing lure designed to catch fishermen and not fish. . .and it looks like it worked ; )
jedirifleman 9 months ago 2
@jedirifleman The reality of this is you can have a hamburger or you can have a filet mignon. Both come from the same cow. You cannot compare a handgun cartridge to an elephant gun cartridge. It's not about price/performance. This world has room for Shelby Mustangs and for Lamborghinis,
May the Force be with you, Jedi Rifleman...
bflocreek 9 months ago
were did u buy that grip and forend for that thompson center encore pistol?
golfer15963 1 year ago
@golfer15963 That is a TC thumbhole glass stock for their rifle. The gunsmith who built the gun cut the stock down and reworked it to work as a handgun. He got written permission from BATFE to classify this as a handgun and not a short rifle. It helped that the gun owner's next door neighbor is a Secret Service agent. That's all I'll say about that...
bflocreek 1 year ago
"Thats got a kick", what, that's weird. its only an elephant hunting handgun.
still interesting video
TigerBear50 1 year ago
Holy CRAP! The .416 is a trip out of a rifle, I can't imagine it out of a handgun....
I was good for about 5 shots out of the S&W 500, I wouldn't want to touch this...Still way cool, however. I love to see custom built stuff.
retromullet 2 years ago
Looks like the fingers can hit the barrel relase lever. Take a look at my 50 Alaskan video and note that I have modified the trigger guard/barrel release to get it out of the way of the fingers under recoil. Thought it might help make it more fun to shoot if the pain encountered under recoil could be reduced.
Thanks for sharing the awesome video.
Jason
jkophazy 2 years ago
Thanks for the comments. I'll pass them on to my buddy who owns the hand cannon.
bflocreek 2 years ago
Glad to see another hand cannon nut. I thought my 50 Alaskan with 975gr bullets had some recoil, ha! A lot of guys who have never shot large bore high power handguns don't understand that the recoil on a hangun platform is different than in a rifle. A rifle transmits the recoil straight back into your shoulder, a pistol alows the recoil to travel back but at the same time your elbows can flex and the gun moves upward which also diminishes some of the felt recoil. Thanks for sharing the video!
jkophazy 2 years ago
that handgun look like a tc.
fk962 2 years ago
It is based on a TC frame, good spotting. The gunsmith replaced some TC internal works with stainless steel and titanium pieces. The barrel with its titanium muzzle brake is totally custom.
bflocreek 2 years ago
I am 15 and I have shot a .416 Rigby a total of about 50 times since i was 14, i really enjoy it, and I agree, not for the timid
Hankhillbillie 3 years ago
Found it JIM!!!!!!
SherryAnn1010 3 years ago
Was that really a .416? That seemed awful mild for that round. I shoot a 12 pound CZ 550 and it has WAY more recoil that that.
deerdude2009 3 years ago
I'm the video shooter, not the shooter of the handgun. Yes, it is a custom-built .416 Rigby with a titanium muzzle brake. We're working on a newer video post to prove this is a .416 Rigby. By the way, the shooter is a power lifter who has arms and hands considerably stronger than the average dude. I shot this gun and the recoil damn near put a hole in my forehead!
bflocreek 3 years ago
@bflocreek It may very well be a .416 Rigby, I don't doubt that at all...but what is uncertain is the loading used. A reloader could have used the lightest bullet possible and the lowest powder charge possible...I know I would do so for just plinking. I'll bet the load used for the video was not a full-power hunting load.
alternatehistories 1 year ago
@alternatehistories You lose the bet. I am the videographer. My friend is the owner of the hand cannon. I have known him well for over 25 years. He has only factory loads for the .416 Rigby. About 10 years ago he had a Sharps rifle in .45/120 (remember "Quigley Down Under"?). He paid about $1000 for just the reloading equipment (dies, molds, scales, everything),but could never get the Sharps loads from keyholing & tumbling. He sold everything & swore he'd never reload again!
bflocreek 1 year ago
@bflocreek just curious, but what is "keyholing" and "tumbling"...is this something which happens at the loading bench, or at the firing range. I am a reloader of primarily .45-70, but I've never encountered these words before. Thanks!
alternatehistories 1 year ago
@alternatehistories Picture an old-fashioned lock on door handle made for skeleton key. That's a keyhole. When bullet was not seated properly in the .45-120, there was gap in chamber between the bullet and start of rifling. The bullet didn't travel in proper spiral path; it ended up going end over end. The image on paper target looked like a keyhole. Also not at all accurate. If you use standard .45-70 dies, crimping and gauges you would not see this happen. He found out after he sold his stuff.
bflocreek 1 year ago
@bflocreek Your problem is with rate of twist to stabilize your bullets rotation .
Also with some calibers and bullet weights it takes a specific length of barrel to bring a bullet up to proper velocity before full stable rotation of the bullet happens
With the short barrel you have you never will have the velocity to stabilize some 416 bullets
Moldovawineimporter 1 year ago
@Moldovawineimporter Sorry, you misunderstand this communication thread. The .416 Rigby handgun as seen in this video clip uses full factory loads. It is deadly accurate to 150 yards fired from rest.
The handloading issue dealt with a story relating to an attempt to reload for a Sharps replica rifle in .45-120 caliber. That rifle had a plenty long enough barrel. My friend's hand loaded bullets were not properly sized to completely fill the rifle's chamber. My friend was using data for .45-70.
bflocreek 1 year ago
That is way too heavy for a .416, my CZ only weighs 9.5 lbs
PigHunter375 2 years ago